I think this was where I was last time, aside from the deados.
I have deandy session to prep and run today so my time today is p limited, so I'll re-attempt (again) to read those longposts back then.
My current Gun-to-the-head is that it ain't Gimli nor Ydrasse out of all uncolored, so maybe I'll end up agreeing with Gimli's theory's QED, and while not necessarily agreeing with the theory itself.
This vote feels like a distancing attempt considering SR townreads Sunflower
I also think the below post has an undertone of defensiveness when asking Catgirls about their vote on Sunflower
In post 588, Silver Ravens wrote:
You call Sunflower town and then vote them why? Is this two different hydra heads?
wait i might be misremembering setup but doesn't scum already have dream hijinks shit like they can choose a dream to see and then axe it???
So uh, I don't see any mention of this in the setup notes in post 1. All the post says is that the Bad Dreams confer secretly and then create a discard priority. It doesn't say they choose a dream to see.
I think it's possible that you are mafia and that mafia could have a role that does what you are describing and that you confused that with public info in making this post
wait i might be misremembering setup but doesn't scum already have dream hijinks shit like they can choose a dream to see and then axe it???
So uh, I don't see any mention of this in the setup notes in post 1. All the post says is that the Bad Dreams confer secretly and then create a discard priority. It doesn't say they choose a dream to see.
I think it's possible that you are mafia and that mafia could have a role that does what you are describing and that you confused that with public info in making this post
i'mpretty sure scum has to know what the dream is if they want to remove it???
We've been voting for dreams without knowing what they are, based on the names.
idk it just makes sense
In post 1436, Silver Ravens wrote:
OK. So I am circling back to thinking it is possible that what you described is correct but you are mafia and somebody has a role that allows for this to happen, and you unintentionally let this slip.
In post 1436, Silver Ravens wrote:
OK. So I am circling back to thinking it is possible that what you described is correct but you are mafia and somebody has a role that allows for this to happen, and you unintentionally let this slip.
im not really sure this is a slip, whyu are you so sold on this? is it because youre scum and you know for a fact that there's a scum pr that allows them to reveal dreams?
This feels like theatre. Especially Jupiter's scumread on SR at the end
In post 1917, Silver Ravens wrote:
Looking through Aureal's iso, their interactions with Gimli do not feel like they are both mafia togther. They respond to Gimli several times with arguments and earlier they locked Gimli as town which Actiondan pointed out was premature.
I think that Sunflower looks pretty suspect in the past few pages. They seem disingenuous to me, I find it hard to believe that they are being truthful about their stance on Kyoko and thinking about partners. And Von Payne was the one to point it out so perhaps some consideration is in order
SR doesn't interact or mention Sunflower for a LONG time until this post pops up. Yet another "I'm kinda suspicious of Sunflower" post, yet no vote or any indication that they want to vote there
In post 2562, Silver Ravens wrote:
Aureal was a mechanical check so the wagon info is not too important. Hu Tao was pushed over Sunflower and Kyoko was pushed over Von Payne.
IMO there is at least 1 mafia between Catgirl Chipotle and Von Payne. We also suspect Sunflower. Leaning towards 2 mafia being in those 3 players. We townread ActionDan. For Ydrasse and Enchant we would need a convincing argument to consider there as we feel other players are more likely to be mafia.
ActionDan we're not sure why you suspect it is us but hopefully you reevaluate and think about how this game played out; we are not the ones pushing through these miseliminations and we wonder who you think we would be teamed with.
In post 2563, Silver Ravens wrote:
Oh we think Von Payne and Sunflower together seemed unlikely based on Von Payne pushing Sunflower earlier based on their stance on Kyoko and not thinking Kyoko would have any other partners. That whole conversation it felt like Sunflower slipped up a bit and Von Payne called them out on it which felt unaligned.
In post 3046, Sunflower wrote:
btw if we were scum we would have done that back near the start of day when there were two votes on catgirls
In post 3198, Sunflower wrote:
like you could try to argue that we're scum who for some reason decided to bet the game on things not being over when ydra clearly was softing a role that potentially could affect things
or you could try to argue that we're scum who thought we could get away with voting if we did it in a towny looking way
(while also deciding not to just be patient and play things out in a fairly normal way)
both of these i think don't hold very much water at least beyond the surface level but you especially can't really pick and choose between them based on whichever suits your point at the time, bc they would depend on very different mindsets/motivations
I think there's a contradiction here. Fire uses some bad wifom to say they would have just hammered Catgirls at the start of the day if they were scum. Then he suggests in the second post that they would have just been patient and let things play out in a fairly normal way
In post 2789, Sunflower wrote:
VOTE: silver ravens for now!!! will reread in depth and probably change my mind but im comfortable / confident w this
In post 2790, Sunflower wrote:
also i do think that if silver ravens is dreamer and catgirls is scum it is INCREDIBLY suicidal to cc there but maybe there's a strat there i dunno
In post 2800, Sunflower wrote:
sorry i rescind my partner theory on catgirls/silver ravens, the first dreamer is always town
wait i might be misremembering setup but doesn't scum already have dream hijinks shit like they can choose a dream to see and then axe it???
So uh, I don't see any mention of this in the setup notes in post 1. All the post says is that the Bad Dreams confer secretly and then create a discard priority. It doesn't say they choose a dream to see.
I think it's possible that you are mafia and that mafia could have a role that does what you are describing and that you confused that with public info in making this post
wait i might be misremembering setup but doesn't scum already have dream hijinks shit like they can choose a dream to see and then axe it???
So uh, I don't see any mention of this in the setup notes in post 1. All the post says is that the Bad Dreams confer secretly and then create a discard priority. It doesn't say they choose a dream to see.
I think it's possible that you are mafia and that mafia could have a role that does what you are describing and that you confused that with public info in making this post
i'mpretty sure scum has to know what the dream is if they want to remove it???
We've been voting for dreams without knowing what they are, based on the names.
idk it just makes sense
In post 1436, Silver Ravens wrote:
OK. So I am circling back to thinking it is possible that what you described is correct but you are mafia and somebody has a role that allows for this to happen, and you unintentionally let this slip.
In post 1436, Silver Ravens wrote:
OK. So I am circling back to thinking it is possible that what you described is correct but you are mafia and somebody has a role that allows for this to happen, and you unintentionally let this slip.
im not really sure this is a slip, whyu are you so sold on this? is it because youre scum and you know for a fact that there's a scum pr that allows them to reveal dreams?
This feels like theatre. Especially Jupiter's scumread on SR at the end
buddy i was being sarcastic, “it’s not like i townread you or anything”
In post 3046, Sunflower wrote:
btw if we were scum we would have done that back near the start of day when there were two votes on catgirls
In post 3198, Sunflower wrote:
like you could try to argue that we're scum who for some reason decided to bet the game on things not being over when ydra clearly was softing a role that potentially could affect things
or you could try to argue that we're scum who thought we could get away with voting if we did it in a towny looking way
(while also deciding not to just be patient and play things out in a fairly normal way)
both of these i think don't hold very much water at least beyond the surface level but you especially can't really pick and choose between them based on whichever suits your point at the time, bc they would depend on very different mindsets/motivations
I think there's a contradiction here. Fire uses some bad wifom to say they would have just hammered Catgirls at the start of the day if they were scum. Then he suggests in the second post that they would have just been patient and let things play out in a fairly normal way
my point is that there's two options, either the route of trying to push the lim through (in which case do it earlier), or there's the route of being patient (in which case do it later)
idk what we would have done as scum but it wouldn't have been what happened
also if u think i’m scum and this is theatre what motive do i have to either:
a) genuinely scum slip and then yell at my scum buddy to yell about me for it (draws attention to something that literally the entire thread said wasn’t a scumslip)
or b) fake a scumslip ??? and then plan out an entire interaction???
like why do i do this ever
Hydra of Doctor Drew (he/him) and Black (she/her)
VOTE: silver ravens for now!!! will reread in depth and probably change my mind but im comfortable / confident w this
In post 2790, Sunflower wrote:
