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I've played in school/in forum-
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Yes in a philosophy/logic classIn post 15, Dionysus wrote:
You played mafia in school?In post 11, KawaiiKame wrote: I've played in school/in forum-
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Black voted Herta
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0 opinion, why is dio being voted?In post 22, skitter30 wrote: And what do both of u think of dio?-
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What do you find confusing?In post 21, skitter30 wrote: I read this like six times and i'm finding it v confusing for some reason-
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When I opened the game Black voting Herta was the thing I saw immediately
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The vote caught my eye being the only thing I saw above me, I haven't seen anyone vote someone being cute b4-
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Idk who herta is/why they cuteIn post 28, skitter30 wrote: I'm trying to track if this sort of logic applies to dio for voting herta too
And no idea what's up with the herta thing
What's significant is:
Why does dio have so many votes?
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Why you vote herta?In post 14, Dionysus wrote: VOTE: herta-
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Herta didn't even go into the game at the point you voted them...
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0kay Ik the concept b4 knowing the name, I thought that was why Black voted herataIn post 42, Dionysus wrote: it was rvs
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Saying hello alone is p null to me, Idk why they didn't say anything to be voted by BlackIn post 45, Dionysus wrote: Dropping in with "hello" and nothing else, not voting or acknowledging any other posts.-
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Why? How do you know?In post 50, BlueBloodedToffee wrote: Dion has so many votes because they're scum.-
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What do you make of the reasoning?In post 54, BlueBloodedToffee wrote: The reasoning behind the Herta vote is actually interesting now though.-
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Scum can be that careless, I haveIn post 68, BlueBloodedToffee wrote: I don't think scum would be that careless-
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Exactly why I'm not voting dio, 0 benefit to ending this day so soonIn post 72, BlueBloodedToffee wrote: I'm not saying Dion is lock town by any means, but given that he already had three votes and there are two of you already pushing that angle, I feel that would be an easy 'in' for scum to come into the game with so I'm backing off.-
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Potentially WIF0M, if the thinking is town is careless about voting then backtracking to vote with an explanationIn post 71, BlueBloodedToffee wrote: The fact Dion took the time to go through Herta's ISO to try and justify the vote and came up with that explanation makes me think he is town. Town are much more careless about voting than scum are.
It is noticeable that scum would be playing conservatively, anyone who hasn't voted besides herta?
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Wanna engage?In post 20, Herta wrote: Hello-
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Which vote?I didnt like the kawaii vote
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I have 0, call me anything you wantIn post 90, patchwork wrote: kawaii what are your pronouns-
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Explain plz I'm lostIn post 94, patchwork wrote: i voted them because i thought they were buddying-
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Black voted hertaIn post 99, patchwork wrote: u voted some person (forgot who) "because they voted herta"-
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chainsaw manIn post 102, patchwork wrote: chainsawing? chainsaw defending?-
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ExplainIn post 94, patchwork wrote: i thought they were buddying-
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What vibes?In post 111, hadriaaan wrote: Skittles is giving me weird vibes for some reason.-
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It's a joke vote, taking notesIn post 128, Black wrote: I don't think Kawaii's vote was rvs but I could be wrong. Seems like they were serious?
In post 34, KawaiiKame wrote: The vote caught my eye being the only thing I saw above me, I haven't seen anyone vote someone being cute b4-
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skit is between an opportunistic scum/an overzealous townieIn post 131, Black wrote: I feel like a wolf is more likely to build a case around inconsistencies in RVS, but I suppose you could also be an overzealous townie instead
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Why empath/dio?In post 183, skitter30 wrote: maybe empathice/dio could be partners-
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Hope the procedure goes wellIn post 181, Herta wrote: I'm having a procedure-
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I'm inquisitive by nature, even questioning my own reads, holding back my own thoughtsIn post 196, Dionysus wrote: reading through their ISO in isolation, there is a lot of asking others questions about why they have done something or what they mean, but very little of their own thoughts. Not great for the poster with the second highest post count
Black's post #120 is the basis of my reads, flipping town in my eyes initially with the detailed analysis
I feel Hadrian is town, good analysis/reads, I liked the pressuring skittle to vote
I'm enjoying the aggression of Empathice, I'm willing to pursue the dio vote in post #141 to see if Toffee flips powerwolf
I find the relationship between dio/skitter the most interesting, skitter pursuing dio feels like town pursuing mafia/mafia pursuing town, I'm divided with the philosophy of pursuing votes based on rvs slips/mistakes, if I take skitter's pursuit in good faith dio is most likely scum, if I take skitter's pursuit in bad faith then dio is most likely town, I believe you can scumhunt in any stage with rvs being the most nai, skitter definitely changed the game state with the dio vote
I like dio's read post, pressuring me to give my thoughts benefits town, same with town reading empathize despite pushing against dio, someone can be pro-town while pushing a town vote as dio noted
Black noted,
"Wolves are more than capable of these types of posts" - #199
This possibility exists, Empathice noted a possible Black-Dio mafia team, to me Black's analysis feels organically town, I see Black as being town while Dio can flip both ways, my view on Dio keeps changing constantly
I feel voting dio gives the most info in the flip
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0kay Toffee is coming back to the game, I liked the opening engagement, I disliked the post-dio unvote disengagement, let's see what I think of Toffee's homecoming posts-
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bbt leans town to me with this engagement, dismantling Black's NAI rvs theory, defending skittle's philosophy
herata is big null
patches is...null at best, though being scapegoated exists, readlist coming soon to a mafia forum near you-
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Skitter is most likely right, I feel voting Dio is the best move, IIoA is a pretty apt description of dio's analysisIn post 214, BlueBloodedToffee wrote: Meh, maybe Skitter was right after all.-
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Town pursuing town is a possibility I thought of yet failed to put down, saying that slipped my mind, felt to me like a mafia/town interaction, sometimes I think something thinking I said itIn post 216, BlueBloodedToffee wrote: Can you explain how you ruled out town pursuing town?
Why can't Skitter's pursuit be both in good faith but also just wrong? This feels like setting up flips and I don't like it-
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Why is dio being the focus of town? Pages and pages of dio being town vs. dio being scum, we need to move on, focus on someone new-
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What feels off about what dio is posting? I feel dio feels off too but that's only a feeling, I do not believe vibes/feelings alone is sufficient enough to vote dio, we need something substantial if we do thisIn post 344, skitter30 wrote: Your posts keep pinging me as being just 'off- - not just once or twice, but over and over and over again-
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Sometimes vibes/feelings is all you have to go off of, I don't think it's pretty terrible, definitely not idealIn post 353, Dionysus wrote: This is pretty terrible reasoning too from someone who has me top of their scum list. In summary your read is based on vibes. You also cite me having a lot of posts but don't get the sense I'm trying to solve yet you tr patches of all people.-
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Let's explore this possibility, if Skitter and dio both town then it's highly likely Black is town and empathice is mafiaIn post 216, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:
Can you explain how you ruled out town pursuing town?In post 209, KawaiiKame wrote: I find the relationship between dio/skitter the most interesting, skitter pursuing dio feels like town pursuing mafia/mafia pursuing town, I'm divided with the philosophy of pursuing votes based on rvs slips/mistakes, if I take skitter's pursuit in good faith dio is most likely scum, if I take skitter's pursuit in bad faith then dio is most likely town, I believe you can scumhunt in any stage with rvs being the most nai, skitter definitely changed the game state with the dio vote
Why can't Skitter's pursuit be both in good faith but also just wrong? This feels like setting up flips and I don't like it
The way Black is defending dio feels genuinely town to me, questioning why dio is being pursued so hard/wanting thoughts on people not named dio, antithetical to skittles who asked my thoughts on dio.
Empathice set the stage against dio in the beginning with the powerwolfing post against you then pursued dio all in when skitter went against dio following hadrian's vote pressure, though I liked the initial aggression dio's became Empathice's sole focus, this can be overzealous town but why is Empathice not interacting with people to push the dio vote? I feel Empathice town would push everyone to vote dio straight up, the aggression definitely exists
I touched on Black since she feels town to me, I want to emphasize her inquisitive/defensive nature, wanting ppl to solve in #362-
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Why don't you feel a patches/skitter scum team with Empathice?In post 362, Black wrote:
I like this post from you and it seems like you're trying to solve, however I'm not confident that patches or skitter are scum with Empathice. I see the connections you are making and it's definitely not out of the question. I'm just not sure patches being candid about how they play as either alignment is a scum slip. skitter has been closely linked to Empathice and I'm not sure if the scum team would be this coordinated in such an awful wagon together. Possible, but also very riskyIn post 359, Dionysus wrote: So if patches is scum, who is their partner? I don't feel skitter as a scumpartner for patches. They have argued too strongly in their defence which I just don't think skitter would do if they were partners. Empathice is more likely, especially with:-
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The flip, voting dio gives town a lot of info, though I'm tempted to unvoteIn post 400, skitter30 wrote:
Why are you voting dio rn?In post 351, KawaiiKame wrote: Why is dio being the focus of town? Pages and pages of dio being town vs. dio being scum, we need to move on, focus on someone new
Idk if I need to believe you + Empathice/Black + dio-
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Would you like to thunderdome? One of us gets eliminated today and if they flip town we eliminate the other tomorrow.
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How do you know? What happens if it does?In post 433, Empathice wrote: Don't worry that won't happen.-
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I'm in the state that I need to IS0 everyoneIn post 440, BlueBloodedToffee wrote: Kawaii, can I get a run down of where you're at currently?
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Black is my biggest town read, I'm with her in wanting to move away the dio vs. emp face off, sadly I feel this isn't happeningIn post 442, BlueBloodedToffee wrote: Yeah, just some general reads/thoughts on current game state.
I liked when you pointed out the town vs. town between dio vs. skittle, you and Black both helped me change my perspective
I wish skittle saw someone else as scum outside of dio, she's committed against dio, that's evident
I wish skittle, dio, empath gave real analysis against each other, Idek what the foundation is to this colosseum fight
Black has fire analysis in my eyes, wanting to shift focus as the above 3 fight in the mud
I can see the possibility of a lurker scumteam (hadrian/herata) tho I see hadrian as town, I don't fault them with being inactive despite being online since I've been online yet inactive, I was lurking a long time, maybe hadrian is confused and making sense of this day like I was, though scum does benefit in letting the dio vs. emp fight play out
I feel skittle is somewhat right about dio's posts being off and lacking substance, giving the appearance of looking busy, but this is a fos, a feeling not substantial evidence, dio's posts do have some substance to them but it feels like they have something missing, the push against emp does exist, emp pointed out a push not being real and I believe it was? I need to go back to double check
Skittle seems town, Idk if vigilant/misguided yet
Empathice keeps flipping to me, he was at the top of my town reads only being eclipsed by Black in the opening then went falling down to scummy with the endless pursuit on dio now Empath is going back up to towny with the all-nothing gambit against dio
This may be a scum play to be seen as town, Idk if maf will do this tho, low town/potential null
dio is fos, low town/potential null
Patches is NAI with the last explanation, nullified self-admission
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Town:
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Why? Hadrian hasn't contributed enough?In post 447, BlueBloodedToffee wrote: That Hadrian read is wild
The possibility of you being maf exists but you feel town to me
Do you not think Empath is town with the last move? Empath feels like the most willing voteIn post 448, BlueBloodedToffee wrote: Happy to elim within Patch, Herta, Hadrian and Empathice.-
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I'm with you all in Black, what slots do you want to interact with?In post 497, Black wrote: Town players need to interact with multiple slots so when they flip we can use that information to make an informed play. Refusing to do so and even dodging questions asking you to talk about other players is inherently anti-town-
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SAMEIn post 507, Black wrote: I would LOVE to interact with the hadrian and Herta slots....-
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It's tonight, hoping to engage with you soonIn post 279, hadriaaan wrote: Thanks for that. Like I said I'll have a proper look at that (and maybe some other games) tonight, but I will say that from a *very* brief glance at their iso, I don't immediately see those similarities
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What didn't you like/did like?In post 508, Empathice wrote: Kawaii's most recent wall #443 I didn't like the analysis of Black. I Did like the analysis of Black in #404 though-
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