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Post #16 (isolation #1) » Tue Dec 22, 2015 1:25 pm
Postby AlwaysInnocent »
Please note: I am using an automated vote counter to generate the vote counts. There could be a glitch here or there. Please let me know if you notice any votes that are missed or incorrectly assigned.
This is very cool!
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Post #70 (isolation #11) » Wed Dec 23, 2015 4:33 am
Postby AlwaysInnocent »
Kaboose wrote:This is my first Blitz that I've been in from the start, second overall. I don't know if even I find it weird given the much shorter deadlines.
What's weird about it to you?
You don't find it weird at all? Odd. Considering the fact that you are close to getting lynched in this stage.
"You've been furthering the win condition of the Mafia even better than the Mafia." - Dierfire
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Post #73 (isolation #12) » Wed Dec 23, 2015 4:43 am
Postby AlwaysInnocent »
In post 71, Kaboose wrote:Am I wrong in thinking things move faster in this game? That's why I'm not seeing it as weird. We need to have wagons.
Quit calling stuff weird and odd if you're not going to explain why you think it's that. You're just waiting for people to come agree with your vagueness and do the work for you.
No. I am just pointing out that something is fishy about this. You seem to awfully comfortable with this situation, though. Which is also weird.
"You've been furthering the win condition of the Mafia even better than the Mafia." - Dierfire
Kaboose wrote:This is my first Blitz that I've been in from the start, second overall. I don't know if even I find it weird given the much shorter deadlines.
What's weird about it to you?
You don't find it weird at all? Odd. Considering the fact that you are close to getting lynched in this stage.
Whats weird about being in L2?
Like I said, the current stage of the game usually does not allow for such a big wagon.
and why you think he is going to get lynched so fast?
I said he is closed to getting lynched.
"You've been furthering the win condition of the Mafia even better than the Mafia." - Dierfire
In post 71, Kaboose wrote:Am I wrong in thinking things move faster in this game? That's why I'm not seeing it as weird. We need to have wagons.
Quit calling stuff weird and odd if you're not going to explain why you think it's that. You're just waiting for people to come agree with your vagueness and do the work for you.
No. I am just pointing out that something is fishy about this. You seem to awfully comfortable with this situation, though. Which is also weird.
I'm kind of agreed with the second part. His response about the wagon is so weird.
but scummy weird? can you talk about it?
I don't know if it is scummy weird. I wouldn't be so comfortable with so many votes. I also don't know why Kaboose is attacking
me
for questioning the wagon instead of the people jumping on the wagon. Apparently he is fine with the wagon.
Oh, well. Whatever.
"You've been furthering the win condition of the Mafia even better than the Mafia." - Dierfire
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Post #125 (isolation #20) » Wed Dec 23, 2015 6:27 am
Postby AlwaysInnocent »
I don't think Yakko has done anything particularly scummy at this point. He has said some nonsensical things, but he is probably just trying to get the game going.
"You've been furthering the win condition of the Mafia even better than the Mafia." - Dierfire
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Post #133 (isolation #21) » Wed Dec 23, 2015 9:14 am
Postby AlwaysInnocent »
In post 131, Lowell wrote:Kaboose's non-defense does not overwhelm, nor does AI's fear of joining the wagon. One of these two has to be scum.
Lol. I don't know about Kaboose. And yes, I do prefer not joining a wagon at L-2 so recklessly. Although Kaboose's latest posts did make me consider voting for him, but I am not sure if we can really say if it means anything.
"You've been furthering the win condition of the Mafia even better than the Mafia." - Dierfire
In post 131, Lowell wrote:Kaboose's non-defense does not overwhelm, nor does AI's fear of joining the wagon. One of these two has to be scum.
Lol. I don't know about Kaboose. And yes, I do prefer not joining a wagon at L-2 so recklessly. Although Kaboose's latest posts did make me consider voting for him, but I am not sure if we can really say if it means anything.
Who, then? We don't have forever. Your vote is basically a random/lurkervote (or is it?).
Yes. It is a lurker vote.
We have around 3 days and 8 hours left. We can do better than this.
Countdown: 3 days, 8 hours, 1 minute
If you don't like the kaboosewagon help create your own. I haven't seen you do that.
I am voting for Bebop at the moment. Is that not a wagon?
"You've been furthering the win condition of the Mafia even better than the Mafia." - Dierfire
Its almost nothing, but we've seen him do this insane early reads thing before, and 48 attacked one of the more awkward things about 39 which was spigot's town read on ranger.
Yes, we've seen it before, so it was null, according to you. But now she is town according to you?
"You've been furthering the win condition of the Mafia even better than the Mafia." - Dierfire
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Post #188 (isolation #28) » Thu Dec 24, 2015 1:24 am
Postby AlwaysInnocent »
Ranger, there is no difference between your town and scum game? Impossible. Town and scum have opposing win conditions which necessitates different play.
"You've been furthering the win condition of the Mafia even better than the Mafia." - Dierfire
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Post #195 (isolation #30) » Thu Dec 24, 2015 4:27 am
Postby AlwaysInnocent »
In post 192, Lowell wrote:I have strong townreads on yakko, ranger, and pisskop. And to a lesser degree, blackstar.
I'm still on kaboose... and frankly, the fact that it's hard to get this wagon over the top (and that it's being supported by inactives) makes me think I'm in the right place. I will move if needed, but I haven't seen any compelling cases, except possibly for spigot. What's the case for bebop again?
He is a lurker. That is all.
"You've been furthering the win condition of the Mafia even better than the Mafia." - Dierfire
I don't have a reads list yet. I would like to have one. It's getting pretty close to that time to have one though. I need to ISO everyone to get reads, and I haven't done that yet. It's on the to do list. Probably can get it for you tonight since you'd like to have it.
You seem very eager to appease Yakko.
"You've been furthering the win condition of the Mafia even better than the Mafia." - Dierfire
Anxiety Attack wrote:Ranger kind of did a similar play to that in the last game she played but I wouldn't call it town so much as typical but I haven't seen a scumgame of hers and maybe ika can help with that.
I have two completed: Blitz 1 and Blitz 7. However, it should be noted I was slightly V/LA for Blitz 1, and Blitz 7 was highly atypical of my game, period, because it was an entire game filled with apathy.
Not a great sample size.
I'm content with being a perpetual null-read overall as a result.
Agree with Lowell's 54. This is exactly where my mind is at this point in the game. Town points here so far.
Indeed, which is why he (and you) are strong townreads of mine now. (I need to update the list to reflect that.)
I don't think someone who is town should be content with the other townies not being able to read them.
I agree. This is very concerning.
"You've been furthering the win condition of the Mafia even better than the Mafia." - Dierfire
In post 231, AlwaysInnocent wrote:I mean in the public thread. They are more likely to do it in private.
No. Theyll talk to each other in private sure, but how exactly do you think they get the imformations to make the decision? By interacting, pushing to varying degrees, and asking questions, and reaction testing.
I think there is a tendency for that, but you have to take the other tendency (to withhold information from the town and not wanting to be exposed to the town) into account as well.
"You've been furthering the win condition of the Mafia even better than the Mafia." - Dierfire
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Post #237 (isolation #44) » Thu Dec 24, 2015 11:36 am
Postby AlwaysInnocent »
In post 236, pisskop wrote:Im leaning towards believing Yakko, but at the same time if the other scum team decided to take him out I wouldn't cry over that milk
AA Im a little concerned over, but we'll see how it comes out.
Looking at his ISO, I understand your concern about Anxiety Attack.
"You've been furthering the win condition of the Mafia even better than the Mafia." - Dierfire
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Post #245 (isolation #45) » Thu Dec 24, 2015 11:47 am
Postby AlwaysInnocent »
In post 243, hi im Yakko wrote:Well At least I didn't. Although AI said he was forgetting? Interesting
It means I am confirmed town!
Nah. I genuinely forgot about it. But of course, it could be that I am scum and that I forgot about the other scum faction... Or that I am just lying about it.
So yeah, feel free to interpret this how you want.
"You've been furthering the win condition of the Mafia even better than the Mafia." - Dierfire
In post 243, hi im Yakko wrote:Well At least I didn't. Although AI said he was forgetting? Interesting
It means I am confirmed town!
Nah. I genuinely forgot about it. But of course, it could be that I am scum and that I forgot about the other scum faction... Or that I am just lying about it.
So yeah, feel free to interpret this how you want.
You realize Inwas going to do that anyways.
Not without my permission.
Why is ranger scum again?
I mainly want to get a better read on her. I am not saying I am sure she is scum.
"You've been furthering the win condition of the Mafia even better than the Mafia." - Dierfire
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Post #250 (isolation #48) » Thu Dec 24, 2015 12:16 pm
Postby AlwaysInnocent »
Not a huge scum indicator, but enough for me to want to vote for her at this point. She said (paraphrasing): "I am always null. I am fine with that." See post #178. That doesn't seem very pro-town to me.
"You've been furthering the win condition of the Mafia even better than the Mafia." - Dierfire
I unvoted kaboose because he told me he was town, which, strangely, I sort of felt that was a townish post. Mostly though I moved because I liked what ranger said about spigot.
I am, btw, willing to concede that my reasoning for unvoting defies rational explanation (call it gut), so I am in no way or form clearing kaboose completely. While I'm not sure he's the best wagon anymore, I would be willing to lynch him if it came to that.
I can accept that. Still don't like it though.
VOTE: Yakko
Perhaps you missed my question or misunderstood. why did you vote me when you made your reads list what reason was their for waiting?
As I said in my post, I see you as anti-town, not necessarily scum. I'd rather see a lynch on one of lowell, kaboose or spigot. I voted for you because I don't think the wagons on the others are going to go through today, and you are still firmly in my "willing to lynch" category.
AI, why are you scum reading anxiety attack?
He commented a lot, but doesn't contribute much. I think he is a better candidate than any of the current wagons.
"You've been furthering the win condition of the Mafia even better than the Mafia." - Dierfire
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Post #311 (isolation #55) » Sat Dec 26, 2015 4:05 am
Postby AlwaysInnocent »
Oh, right. We only have 14 hours left. But I am not a fan of the current major wagons. Well, I have a null-read on BlackStar, but a town-read on Yakko.
"You've been furthering the win condition of the Mafia even better than the Mafia." - Dierfire
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Post #321 (isolation #58) » Sat Dec 26, 2015 4:19 am
Postby AlwaysInnocent »
One thing is noteworthy: if BlackStar is scum, then why does he not push for a Yakko lynch? He seems to vote for Ranger as if he cares more about being right than saving his own skin.
"You've been furthering the win condition of the Mafia even better than the Mafia." - Dierfire