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Ooo a wagon already?
I'm in!
VOTE: SiriusHalf meme, Half real, All Aristophanes ;)- JingleAri has appeared way too competent for me to even pretend to know what they're thinking
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Seems legit, definitely the biggest scumtell of them all!
I mean, them not being bolded fully is basically Isis telling us they are scum, right?Half meme, Half real, All Aristophanes ;)- JingleAri has appeared way too competent for me to even pretend to know what they're thinking
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I read that "I am high like that" and it was extremely on brand hahaHalf meme, Half real, All Aristophanes ;)- JingleAri has appeared way too competent for me to even pretend to know what they're thinking
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Just V/LAIn post 18, Creature wrote:Wished I could wait for MondayHalf meme, Half real, All Aristophanes ;)- JingleAri has appeared way too competent for me to even pretend to know what they're thinking
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Just V/LAIn post 18, Creature wrote:Wished I could wait for MondayHalf meme, Half real, All Aristophanes ;)- JingleAri has appeared way too competent for me to even pretend to know what they're thinking
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Oops, the coveted first doublepost of the game!
Ohey me too!Creature wrote:I have rolled town
Who is the scums?Half meme, Half real, All Aristophanes ;)- JingleAri has appeared way too competent for me to even pretend to know what they're thinking
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Oof!
Well good luck on the exam! I'm sure you can slay it <3Half meme, Half real, All Aristophanes ;)- JingleAri has appeared way too competent for me to even pretend to know what they're thinking
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Hey Adorable!In post 58, Adorable wrote:
This was my rvs vote and yes I read them. I also saw that he gave a town read so fast and how is he able to have a town read so fast when it hasn't been longer than 24 hours.In post 57, DeasVail wrote:Why did you make the vote then? Have you read Augustus’ posts?
How many games have you played since the Backrooms game?Half meme, Half real, All Aristophanes ;)- JingleAri has appeared way too competent for me to even pretend to know what they're thinking
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You are absolutely correct, I obviously don't care about the answer on pg 1 from someone who has said they are busy and whatnot lolIn post 60, Datisi wrote:i don't like this. it feels like a weird mixture of rvs joking and early-game conversation-starting, except it doesn't exactly read as joking and ari obviously doesn't care about the answer.
What reads wrong about it to you?
Ninja'd
Ya it took me 20 mins to write this. Darn work!
*shakes fist*Half meme, Half real, All Aristophanes ;)- JingleAri has appeared way too competent for me to even pretend to know what they're thinking
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Hahaha this is fun!In post 67, Augustus Caesar wrote:Ari did you know this cat was in CATS for Backroom mafia?
I'm not the same bright cat I once was... age and experience has weathered me down and made me grumpy
Also losing my partner in crime to the flavour mines also hurt. That's more backstory though and we leave that to HBB (the guy who's in black and white and always smiling. It's off putting tbh but don't tell him I told you this)
I don't recall if I knew you were in Cats or that you are who you're a representative (read: alt) of tbh.
And don't worry, I won't tell mr b&w he scares youHalf meme, Half real, All Aristophanes ;)- JingleAri has appeared way too competent for me to even pretend to know what they're thinking
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I, for one, welcome the slower paced game and hope it continues.In post 70, Augustus Caesar wrote:I think this might be the least active game
Augustus's pal Hectic was dealt the same treatment last year. I was looking forward to the hyperposting this time round tbh
Though your hyperposting is fun and thus is allowedHalf meme, Half real, All Aristophanes ;)- JingleAri has appeared way too competent for me to even pretend to know what they're thinking
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Isn't asking someone who claims town that early who the scum are basically a meme at this point? XDIn post 74, Datisi wrote:the fact that it was asked on page 1, and a decently uneventful page 1. like, i dunno. what were you expecting? why did you only ask creature that?Half meme, Half real, All Aristophanes ;)- JingleAri has appeared way too competent for me to even pretend to know what they're thinking
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Unfortunately Ive only had 6 scumgames in the past 2 years so that meta is definitely still accurate.In post 66, Augustus Caesar wrote:
AHHHHHHIn post 64, Datisi wrote:oh, silly me. apologies, grumpy. *pat*
why do you get the impression that ari doesn't like standing out as scum?
Thanks
That classic scum PT where Vegeta (Nacho) is HYPING Ari up to post and Ari is scared over every little thing and how it'll look
That was 2 ot 3 years ago and IthinkI checked more recent meta at some point in a previous game that still lines up with it but I can't remember
https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?ti ... Games#2019
Linked in case you want to read up on more recent meta. There is one good scumgame there in Chain if Command but it was mostly due to mechanics.
That Scum PT with Vegeta/Nacho is still something I think back on as scum, it was that difinitive. I believe it was Buttersnap Shitfuckery by Bicephelous Bob hahaHalf meme, Half real, All Aristophanes ;)- JingleAri has appeared way too competent for me to even pretend to know what they're thinking
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Maybe I'm wrong. I feel like Ive seen it a lot tho.In post 77, Datisi wrote:is it? i've certainly never heard of it.
I think the Hectic/Augustus representatives are towny thus far. I like that you are prodding me on this but I'm also worried you're latching onto this as an easy way to make early content look good.In post 78, Datisi wrote:do you have any feels yet, ari?
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you have my attention
Half meme, Half real, All Aristophanes ;)- JingleAri has appeared way too competent for me to even pretend to know what they're thinking
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Sorry if I wrote that badly, but yes, this is what I meant. Thanks!In post 85, Adorable wrote:@Aristophanes Did you mean how many games I played after the backrooms? I played 2 games.
I might have to look at your Isos in those games. I misread you badly in Backrooms and I don't want to make that mistake againHalf meme, Half real, All Aristophanes ;)- JingleAri has appeared way too competent for me to even pretend to know what they're thinking
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I found then NAI thus far tbh
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I mean Adorable.
I do agree Reck is off thoHalf meme, Half real, All Aristophanes ;)- JingleAri has appeared way too competent for me to even pretend to know what they're thinking
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I could evolve my Mûmakil??
/in
VOTE: ReckHalf meme, Half real, All Aristophanes ;)- JingleAri has appeared way too competent for me to even pretend to know what they're thinking
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Maybe "off" is bad wording, but I'm going to keep an eye on you this game.In post 106, xRECKONERx wrote:
why am i 'off' ariIn post 103, Aristophanes wrote:I found then NAI thus far tbh
Ninja'd
I mean Adorable.
I do agree Reck is off tho
I know this is probably based in genuine displeasure but the posts are legit not hard to read and if you take out the obvious flourishes there's good content there.In post 94, xRECKONERx wrote:I've made the executive decision not to read any of Hectic's posts this game because I fucking hate stupid posting gimmicks
Why are you disregarding a slot that is active and will generate a lot ov activity and reads so early in the game?
Adorable is strange and easy to vote and I think this shows exactly what I mean. It looks like it could be an opportunistic jump onto them.In post 99, xRECKONERx wrote:oh wow adorable straight up dipped on DV's line of questioning
VOTE: AdorableHalf meme, Half real, All Aristophanes ;)- JingleAri has appeared way too competent for me to even pretend to know what they're thinking
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I'm not sure I understand the question. I think his response to my response probably showed that the raging is genuine, but I hope he's done more since then and isn't just raging for the sake of it so he looks like he's contributing without giving any content and having an easy slot to tunnel.
I was busy yesterday and work 12h today but if I get a lunch break I'll be back to catch up! Otherwise it will be mostly tomorrow, for which I apologize.Half meme, Half real, All Aristophanes ;)- JingleAri has appeared way too competent for me to even pretend to know what they're thinking
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I'm being wagoned and from my quick skims as the game has progressed it looks like a pretty bad wagon tbh. I'm reading up now and must say that I appreciate the pace at which the game has been going.
Uh, yeah I'll have some stuff for you in a bit.Half meme, Half real, All Aristophanes ;)- JingleAri has appeared way too competent for me to even pretend to know what they're thinking
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Okay, so let's do a reread from pg 1 since starting at page 6 of the game just seems lazy and I have the time.
The earlywagon on Sirius seems NAI entirely as it happened far too quickly to mean anything. I think the staying power of the votes might say something though. The Hectic intro was obviously a prewrite and the gimmick in the first few posts is to establish it. I'm not putting weight into them and will be disregarding the gimmick for the most part, as I have been when reading their posts.
Overall the xof votes are meh but I don't like Ydrass' vote. It feels just kind of shoehorned into the thread. No mention of the other votes on xof like Hectic had, no thoughts to the other wagon that was there, just a basically blank vote hopping onto a trend and then asking to be ignored. Like I get that the sig not being active is noteworthy and I appreciate them pointing out who they are (I missed the alt thing in the OP and was confused at first as to why there were alts at all) but it feels wrong.
Oh dear lord I'd actually not read Ydrasse/Hectic doing whatever it was they did with their alt storytelling interactions on pg 2 and I guess I actually owe Reck an apology. I still have my worries about him but yeah, I can see why the alt thing rubbed him the wrong way. Literally didn't read that and only saw the more toned down Hectic posts which was why I was so dismissive there. That said pg 3 Hectic is towny and I think he has a good handle on the earlygame here. Switching abruptly from the blatant altposting to the actual game content posts is +town and I think it says a lot. Scum Hectic could easily have kept up the games and not said anything helpful there.
Adorable/DV questions make Adorable look bad but as I said I think that's more because of their style than anything else and thus I don't think Adorable looks that bad for it.
DV, why was this the vote you asked about at this point in the game when there were like 9 votes floating around?
I don't like that Datisi reacted to Bulge's vote:
without acknowledging the post directly after it which holds the opposing virepoint:In post 60, Datisi wrote:a great player once told me that a 4th vote on a wagon is always town. i don't know if that's true, but i'll pretend to believe it anyway. +town.
This interaction, or lack thereof, gives me partner vibes on Datisi and Bulge, though we all know how reliable preflip associatives are especially this early in the game. I'll be keeping an eye on them regardless.In post 14, petapan wrote:lots of scumtells from bulge, 4th vote on a wagon
Yeah, Hectic is engaging the game and not hiding behind the alts. I like it a lot.
I think I missed this question earlier. I also think I answered a similar question from Datisi tho. It's just a joking question that I thought was a site meta meme at this point. I didn't expect an answer in any way.In post 72, Augustus Caesar wrote:Pedit: FINE last question: why'd you ask Creature then? What was the purpose?
I'm annoyed that I was ignored here. We were edging out of RVS at this point and I would like an answer to this. In fact, it was done within the context of serious posts. Was it a joke or
siruisserious and why?
This is weird and I don't like it or the implications of using out of game influence. If it's some joke then fine but it has big nope vibes.In post 84, The Bulge wrote:sirius what were you doing Saturday afternoon from ~2:30 to 3:30?
I'm not sure that this is true of them, but it may be. Do you have PuffScum meta to compare this to?In post 90, Augustus Caesar wrote:i like puff so far
her being difficult and arguing about this stuff is town-indicative
our records show she's floaty and less antagonistic as scum
not a fan of the limelight
Like in Backrooms they were explaining how mafia worked to people who clearly know that and they were town so maybe it's not some legs to it but I'm pretty sure it's literally just a personality/playstyle thing. Also why wouldn't Grumpy Cat have posted this? They were in Backrooms with Puff and it would make sense from them! At least keep your alt-knowledge straight bro
I still don't like this post but I guess I get it.In post 94, xRECKONERx wrote:I've made the executive decision not to read any of Hectic's posts this game because I fucking hate stupid posting gimmicks
I know I'm questioned later on my wording in response to my response to this response, but what I meant by Reck using this to tunnel them, as I believe I put it, is that if Reck sticks to the rage or commentary about this slot and thefact that Alts shouldn't be in this game and gimmicks are dumb rather than providing content I think that is scum indicative and a way to look busy without actually contributing. I haven't read what they've said after that response but I'm hoping they're *doing things* because otherwise this could indicate scum!Reck. I hope that makes things clearer here.
I retain that this is standard for them.In post 99, xRECKONERx wrote:oh wow adorable straight up dipped on DV's line of questioning
VOTE: Adorable
Also Petapan dipped on my question above, was that not something you thought was noteworthy? What is the difference between the two in your opinion? (aka why is one worth voting and the other not worth commenting on?)
k that's the end of Page 4 so new post since this was a lot more than I expected to write here.Half meme, Half real, All Aristophanes ;)- JingleAri has appeared way too competent for me to even pretend to know what they're thinking
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Do you expect someone to argue with themselves? Of course they didn't argue about it until they were prodded toIn post 100, Datisi wrote:
can you talk how exactly was she being difficult here? like, she's started "arguing" about it only after i asked?In post 90, Augustus Caesar wrote:her being difficult and arguing about this stuff is town-indicative
our records show she's floaty and less antagonistic as scum
I hope my wallposting helpsIn post 108, xofelf wrote:Gotta say the multiposting thing is going to kill me. It just feels like noise for the sake of noise and my eyes kinda glaze over as I read it. I also can't keep track of which is which, and who they're supposed to be underneath the alt, which is making that slot so much harder to read.(I also don't remember if it was just one of the public alts hyperposting or both, so that's a bad sign)
I am liking DV so far. The questions do feel like they're coming from a genuine place. I guess the term is solving? But it just feels like good reaction poking and I'm here for it.
Ari my love, why do you feel funny to me? There's this tone underneath your posts that don't quite feel genuine and more performative. Idk if it's AI, I just know unlike usual, reading your posts made my nose wrinkle up.
That's what I got for now.
Wait! Xof why are your eyes glazing over at my long form posts!? I Thought I was Helping!!!
Yeah, Iunno why I would feel off to you here. Though I get told my forumposting feels fake all the time. Heck, I recall years of Reck holding this view I don't know if it persists tbh and I've heard it a lot less frequently in recent years, but it's always kinda there. It could have to do with the nature of our personal conversations being so different from the context of a Mafia game? Spitballing here entirely though.
I like your DV read as well, though I don't really read them either way from it. It's good to see where you're coming from on it!
Congrats btw! I hope you had a great start to the new job! <3In post 114, xRECKONERx wrote:i'm starting a new job next week.
About the underlined, yes. That was the intent of my post. This is twice I've been reworded so people could parse me now. Obviously I need to get better at expressing my points!In post 114, xRECKONERx wrote:as for your point about adorable, taken a diff way, it's "well adorable's meta is to be strange and an easy vote".i know nothing about adorable. i've never seen them before. and meta is trash anyway. i voted adorable bc of their exchange with DV, which i already said. that's not "strange". that's a straight up lie. adorable claimed to vote on nothing just pure RVS... then upon being questioned explained they did ACTUALLY vote for a reason... and then upon being pushed further by DV, completely ignored DV and jumped onto other things. that's scummy. idgaf about their meta.
Adorable did a contradiction in RVS and followed it up with a flimsy reason based on their personal abilities and expectations within the game. I think that's fine tbh. I didn't read malice or intention to lie within the stream of posting. Is this a case of LAL? Because that's super weak, especially at such an early point in the game.
I'll drop the Alt thing and hope we can move on from it. With that said,In post 115, xRECKONERx wrote:if you're interested in talking about my adorable read or xof read or dv read let me know ari. i think your jump onto me looks gross rn
UNVOTE: Reck
I think you vibing with xof is fine but I hope to see that develop as the game goes on because it's really baseline stuff at this point.
I think your read of DV is directly effected by your read on Adorable and I don't know that it is the best metric to base it upon.
You're asking Reck, the most staunch denouncer of meta, to self-meta? Yeah that'll end wellIn post 120, The Bulge wrote:@reck when you play scum and feel like a certain level of ~rage~ would be appropriate, do you find you are more likely to fake the emotion to fit the play, or do you prefer to allow real emotions to dictate your posting for a more natural effect?
I don't remember if I answered you, Bulge. 107 was really combative but Reck obviously came into this game annoyed so I'm trying to give them some slack now.In post 107, xRECKONERx wrote:i only had 4 posts prior to you saying this so it should be EXTREMELY ez for you to point out where i feel 'off'
Not a fan of this response. Adorable, what are your reads on Reck and Hectic? Do you scumread Hectic for presenting a meta read? What about Reck for the vote on you? I see you dislike the vote, but is it scummy? What do you think of my using meta to defend you and what does that mean in regards to a read on me?In post 122, Adorable wrote:Was this Hopkirk's meta read on Reck? I have had bad experience on meta reads because the players who town read a player for meta turned out to be scum in the end.
What a weird question.In post 129, Summer Nights wrote:is there anything that you do like so far, adorable?
Oh ew, what a weird question to UnoReverso.In post 133, Datisi wrote:
is there anything *you* like so far?In post 129, Summer Nights wrote:is there anything that you do like so far, adorable?
Wtf is this??
In his defense there's no way he could know you went to bed there.In post 134, Adorable wrote:Reck's reasoning to their vote looked suspicious to me. It was the way how they worded it because I went to sleep and they said I dipped.
Reck, like, what do you expect as an answer here? "Yep, I guess I did have a reason. Oops" is about all I can see them saying in response to that and like, who cares at this point? There's a lot more to comment on and question and being hung up on an omitted answer that can only really be one thing and was done during the RVS stages of the game is just too much man.In post 136, xRECKONERx wrote:
you literally posted replying to other people and not DVIn post 122, Adorable wrote:I didn't like the way how you just straight up voted me saying I dipped and without even engaging with me. I went to bed after I responded to DV and don't expect me to respond right away because I'm not active.
you're *still* ignoring DV after being called out on it???
Piggybacking on this is a bad look for you.In post 141, The Bulge wrote:@adorable, ...yea what reck said
Uh, I think your conclusion might be right but this line of thought confuses me. Unless they asked for help with an OP it's unlikely their scumteam would jump into coaching them. And you discredit your read within this post? I just don't get the point of this.In post 144, Augustus Caesar wrote:Oh, so part of my reasoning for townreading Puff earlier is because if she had a scumteam as well as Team Mafia teammates, I'd expect some level of coaching to be happening behind the scenes. And if that's the case, I don't see them letting her enter with a "early townreads are suspicious, how can you even have a townread so early" theory line of attack which is obviously flawed, and could easily attract attention/suspicion.
I asked her how much she'd conversed with her team though and apparently she only did after the fact. Still think there's validity in it though, because her team or scumteam would probably proactively try and help her out considering the occasion and all.
Noted. I'll be taking a look at these at some point. Thanks Hectic! This answered my earlier question about whether you had scum meta with them.In post 147, Augustus Caesar wrote:I've played a lot with her. Reference being drawn from:
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=84709 - town
viewtopic.php?f=84&t=84055 - town
viewtopic.php?f=51&t=83352 - town
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=82679 - scum
I thought Bulge was saying they don't disagree with the T/T take but we both ping as unwarranted/performative. Guess we'll find out when he clarifies.
Could you elaborate on these reads?In post 148, Summer Nights wrote:
yes! hectic + bulge + xof so far have given me good vibes.In post 133, Datisi wrote:
is there anything *you* like so far?In post 129, Summer Nights wrote:is there anything that you do like so far, adorable?
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I gigured it was implied. Was it not implied? Do I need to be that explicit? Noted for later.In post 369, petapan wrote:you didn't phrase 82 to me like a question so i saw no need to answer, and if even if you'd asked for an explanation i was just as likely not to give one
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dude are you kidding me with thisIn post 367, Aristophanes wrote:This interaction, or lack thereof, gives me partner vibes on Datisi and Bulge, though we all know how reliable preflip associatives are especially this early in the game. I'll be keeping an eye on them regardless.
Sure, both jump at me for this one earlyread. That really helps your caseIn post 370, Datisi wrote:was i supposed to acknowledge peta's non-serious (correct me if i'm wrong) read on bulge's positioning on the wagon because it contradicted my very-super-serious read on the same thing? and that gives you partner-y vibes because...? you think i'm so desperate to townread my buddy?
Yes I was serious here. It's something I thought was a weird interaction to not have happen. I don't think you were that desperate to townread a buddy, but I don't see why you would make a directly opposite joke without acknowledging the previous mention of it? Like usually that would be the kind of joke made in the next post, not on a different page. It just has weird vibes all over it.
It's really earlygame stuff though, so it's not like I'm giving it a lot of weight. The reaction to it is really interesting though.Half meme, Half real, All Aristophanes ;)- JingleAri has appeared way too competent for me to even pretend to know what they're thinking
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That's fine, you're allowed to read into it.In post 373, petapan wrote:no offense but it feels like you're forcing analysis here
but as promised
VOTE: beeboy
because let's face it, this is what he does as scum, promising to read later and not post, anyone who knows him knows it, the game is so slow it shouldn't be a problem at all
I think a beeboy vote here is meh.
I mean, beeboy could and should be getting help from their team, meaning a lack of posts implied a lack of time/presence. I don't think we should let them off the hook with more proddodges, but Limming an inactive player is a cop out when we have a decent amount of content to base a Lim on here.Half meme, Half real, All Aristophanes ;)- JingleAri has appeared way too competent for me to even pretend to know what they're thinking
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Oh good, nothing to say from page 8. Just past game meta arguments that Idgaf about from Datisi/Bulge, Adorable saying whatever, and the weird conclusion of the Sirius/Bulge thing that again makes Bulge look bad. Might have to case Bulge after this tbh. Seems I keep coming back to them.
Also, Sirius, something AI would be really nice from you.
Thx.
Lol I can hear the Clap Emotes and they aren't even here XD
Uh, this is kind of the hyperfocusing on one thing that I was worried about with Reck WRT Hectic. I think he's found a new target and honestly this is a pretty big red flag imo. FoS on you my friend.
You didn't want to elaborate on Sirius. Can you elaborate on The Bulge here?In post 209, petapan wrote:bulge townie
adorable in 56 you said the vote wasn't based on anything, but in 58 you said it was because of how augustus gave a fast town read. that's what people are getting on your case about. can you address this?
And as I asked Reck, what honestly do you expect their answer to be here? Everyone being stuck on this shit is legitimately stupid.
DV is probably town though. I'll give them that.
This. Scum also wouldn't have avoided the question like they did. This is why the pages of uproar about it are so fucking ridiculous and likely have scum hiding within the uproarious bunch imo.In post 220, petapan wrote:okay.
maybe im overthinking it but dont think scum acts so blatantly self-contradictory early game and the responses seem to come from some sort of headspace where this all makes sense
Oh look, Reck is still sticking on this after it's been resolved. Just like I figured they would.In post 224, xRECKONERx wrote:
this is bad though bc adorable is acting self-contradictory and i think that's town or scum indicative! i think scum, especially those unfamiliar or newer, will have a harder time staying logically consistentIn post 220, petapan wrote:okay.
maybe im overthinking it but dont think scum acts so blatantly self-contradictory early game and the responses seem to come from some sort of headspace where this all makes sense
they'll blurt out whatever
adorable just seems to act in a weird manner and has now stumbled over herself to re-explain why she's so contradictory
like, the idea is... "i voted someone, said it was based on nothing when asked, then retroactively gave a justification for it... then got called out on giving a retroactive justification for it, and took 100 posts to get coached by my scumteam on how to respond to it"
idk man i feel like i see people in the current site meta trying to trip over themselves to explain how scum dumbfuckery is actuallytoo dumbfuckto be scum and the fact of the matter is uh it gets caught like that for a reason
Fuckit
VOTE: Reck
That was short lived.
End of pg 10.
We're getting there. Sorry everyone (:Half meme, Half real, All Aristophanes ;)- JingleAri has appeared way too competent for me to even pretend to know what they're thinking
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I suppose this is a reasonable point. I don't think I have recent enough beeboy!scum meta to say anything either way here. People say the same about me when I can't produce and it's definitely something worth looking at, but I'd expect it to happen after at least a second proddodge.In post 375, petapan wrote:nah if it were any other username i'd agree with you but this is a special case and i wanna get it out of the way now
Thank you DV, I appreciate the answer. It makes good sense for the timing of things.In post 376, DeasVail wrote:Ari, in response to your question to me, I chose Adorable's vote because it came at a time when there had been some vaguely interesting posts made, it was a vote on Augustus who had been a relatively loud player, Adorable had only just made the vote so chances of real-time interaction were high, I didn't have any familiarity with Adorable so it would have been good to get some insight, and I just happened to be looking at the thread at the time and thought it would be fun to subvert RVS expectations and meta for a bit of wtf!
But now I have some questions for you!
But what is YOUR read of me?In post 371, Aristophanes wrote:I think your read of DV is directly effected by your read on Adorable and I don't know that it is the best metric to base it upon.
There is a lot of commenting on other people's reads and criticising the reasoning, but this is actually very easy to do as scum! What is more difficult is coming up with thoughts of your own which I notice you haven't actually done very much of despite saying a lot of words.
Similarly, you say the beeboy vote is meh, but I want to know what vote you think is not meh.
I think I just answered this in my most recent post, but I think you are strongly on the town side of things. Your followups were reasonable, the explanation here as to why you asked them things specifically is good, and I like the say you reacted to and rethought your trajectory in that slot in particular.
No, I'm almost there. I do see that some of this is already long passed now and I would have spun it all into one post if that wouldn't have made an impossible quotewall. As it is this is probably over the top.In post 377, Adorable wrote:Aristophanes are you all caught up? Some of the stuff you have asked me have already been answered. The part when you asked me about what do I think of you using meta to defend me mean to me about my read on you is making me lean town on you. I don't believe in scum white knighting me and why should scum defend me when I could have been a really good push for scum to eliminate. In a world if I am ever being defended by scum, then this would mean that scum knows what my weakness is in my town games.
Thanks also for the response, Adorable! I think scum would have an alright time hiding in a white knoght role here without actually posting with enough force to convince anyone to unvote you, but I also see what you are saying here. I'm tempted to read into this that scum may have less experience with you if they are not defending you here but I don't think you are saying that, nor is it really something I expect would actually lead to fruitful reads.
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Thanks, having this tangible post makes this a lot less *interesting* to meIn post 379, Datisi wrote:
there's a case of mine here?In post 372, Aristophanes wrote:In post 368, petapan wrote:
dude are you kidding me with thisIn post 367, Aristophanes wrote:This interaction, or lack thereof, gives me partner vibes on Datisi and Bulge, though we all know how reliable preflip associatives are especially this early in the game. I'll be keeping an eye on them regardless.
Sure, both jump at me for this one earlyread. That really helps your caseIn post 370, Datisi wrote:was i supposed to acknowledge peta's non-serious (correct me if i'm wrong) read on bulge's positioning on the wagon because it contradicted my very-super-serious read on the same thing? and that gives you partner-y vibes because...? you think i'm so desperate to townread my buddy?
Yes I was serious here. It's something I thought was a weird interaction to not have happen. I don't think you were that desperate to townread a buddy, but I don't see why you would make a directly opposite joke without acknowledging the previous mention of it? Like usually that would be the kind of joke made in the next post, not on a different page. It just has weird vibes all over it.
It's really earlygame stuff though, so it's not like I'm giving it a lot of weight. The reaction to it is really interesting though.
well you see, soon-ish after making my first post, i went to bed because the game started at 2am central european time. when i woke up the next morning, the game was already on page three. i saw the talk about bulge being the 4th vote, and that being a scum!position on a wagon, and i thought "hold on, didn't bob make a comment in a scum pt that he found out that the 4th vote on an rvs wagon is almost always town?" so i went to check, and sure enough, he did. and for the injustice that was done to him in that game, i thought it would be nice and/or funny to reference a post of his that i just so happened to remember in that moment.
maybe it's my fault because i should've quoted peta's post there too. maybe you're reaching because it's just these nitpicky details that you can use against me.
the word "interesting" doesn't actually *mean* anything. is it nai? is it ai? in which direction? why?
Like, it looked like a weird post without this context and I've never heard of this Bob person. So as a fun reference to a totally different game that has no bearing on anything here I'll happily drop it entirely and move on.
"Interesting" here really didn't have a direct link to alignments. It meant that it piqued my interest as weird and therefore I was going to look at you more. It raised my eyebrow and therefore was of interest to me leading me to want to sort you. It no longer has that intrigue. Thank you for the explanationHalf meme, Half real, All Aristophanes ;)- JingleAri has appeared way too competent for me to even pretend to know what they're thinking
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Re: AdorableIn post 380, petapan wrote:
for the adorable question, i mainly wanted to state it to her in as clerar tearms as possible so she'd answer it and we'd get some sort of resolution. i was looking for some sort of consistency in her reasoning, that she hadn't just decided to justify her vote post hoc after being asked about it by DV. i thought the response made sense but then she seemed to get contradictory again so i just threw my hands up in the air. my problem currently is i can see her using the reasoning she's had this game as town or scumIn post 378, Aristophanes wrote:You didn't want to elaborate on Sirius. Can you elaborate on The Bulge here?
And as I asked Reck, what honestly do you expect their answer to be here? Everyone being stuck on this shit is legitimately stupid.
bulge, at the time, seemed to be asking questions i liked and getting on sirius about the particular time interval felt townie to care about that sort of specificity. on looking back at his iso, i'm not sure i like it much at all actually
That's valid enough. Landing on Null/NAI for that after everything that went into prying the answer out of them is probably not where scum would end up so that helps me read you better
Re: The Bulge
I suppose I can see where you were coming through there despite disagreeing at that point in the game and also thinking the post about timing is totally within the scope of scum!Bulge. As mentioned I think they have a lot of scum equity and need to do an Iso (or just reread my own posts) after this catchup is completed because they pinged me multiple times in the first 2/3 of this game so far.
Ninja'd
No problem. I mean I wouldn't say no to that but also your conviction here combined with a decently budded townread on you leaves me willing to believe you on this. I don't think it will be my vote at the moment, but I may join you later.petapan wrote:
if it's necessary to convince people i will explain but i have basically no intention of letting this slideIn post 381, Aristophanes wrote:I suppose this is a reasonable point. I don't think I have recent enough beeboy!scum meta to say anything either way here. People say the same about me when I can't produce and it's definitely something worth looking at, but I'd expect it to happen after at least a second proddodge.Half meme, Half real, All Aristophanes ;)- JingleAri has appeared way too competent for me to even pretend to know what they're thinking
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This is really good and says a lot of things I've been thinking. I townread them for it. I also have now responded to the weird feels they had on me so xof, since you apparently have a reason behind it, would you care to elaborate?In post 262, xofelf wrote:Checking back in with the following:
Datisi, I was waiting for Ari to actually respond to my question before I explained more on how he feels off, and he's still not done so which is rather annoying. I have liked what you've been giving, but you do feel like you're a little overanxious here bud. Idk if that's your usual gig or not, but I don't really think it's anything AI.
Summer Nights/Ydrasse just rubs me in all the wrong ways. Early start was all endless fluff for the sake of posting, but once she you know stopped all of that, she is not consistent whatsoever. Like in one post she's talking about how she really likes how one person is doing, and then the very next about them is talking about how she doesn't feel good about them. And that's hella sus. I don't think I've ever played with her so I have no idea if this is out of character or not. It also feels very noncommital in a way that gives off "don't look at me, I'm harmless" vibes that don't feel genuine but fairly faked. It also seems like her opinions on people were dependant on how they were interacting with adorable. Which brings me to my next person.
Adorable. Something just feels off. Early on she spent an awful lot of time in establishing just what her meta is or isn't, and some very specific expectations she has of scumplay. Which to me felt like a way to be like "look, I'm not doing *these* things, I can't possibly be scum." and "as long as my behaviour is following these rules I've established about my gameplay, then i *must* be town" and I ain't about that kind of stuff. I agree she took a while to answer DV, but as a person who posts very infrequently and often misses stuff directed at me, I didn't mind that. But then her later pointing out how someone else didn't answer a question she asked them wasn't great. A lot of her content being what her team thinks rather than her, also feels funny to me. But I've also never played a Team Mafia before so this may just be par for the course. I just don't like what she's bringing to the table. But also, Summer did an awful lot of defending or explaining for adorable(ctrl-f has adorable show up 20 times in that iso, some of which are quotes, but most are Summer herself), and yet adorable has only talked to or about Summer once, and it was just a direct question that Summer asked her about what she liked in the game. It felt like a softball you'd throw to a scumpartner to set them up for a read or misdirection. I just don't think that a town player would just completely ignore someone who is talking for them that much. Even just a thank you or acknowledgement post, but there's nothing.
So with all of the above in mind, I think Summer Nights and adorable are together in some capacity, and I think it's because they're scum together. But of the two, I am going to VOTE: Adorable
I like the vote but the xof stuff is off. Scumplay isn't black and white like this and many scum have defended theirpartners at many points in many games. Do you dislike it because it implicates you as scum or because of theory only?In post 264, Adorable wrote:Everything Hectic has said about Reckoner so far I agree with and I have been scum reading Reck.
I also don't like how xof said Summer and I are together and xof said Summer did an awful alot of defending me. From what I remember, scum would never defend each other because that just makes the other scum look bad when one of them flips. I'm scum reading both Reckoner and xof and I am suspicious that scum are trying to push an elimination on me day 1.
VOTE: xRECKONERx
Also what is your read of Ydrasse?
You've read way too much into this post, Adorable. I don't think he's saying that at all.In post 266, Adorable wrote:
On b) you said two buddies go hard to get pressure off scum so what you're saying here is 2 scum in Hectic, Ari, petapan are scum.In post 239, xRECKONERx wrote:b/c i don't see any universe where
a) two scum white knight the same townie off of such little pressure early d1
b) two buddies go hard to get pressure off of adorable d1 when it's so early
so at most, one of them is scum IMO
I'm curious to hear from Hectic, Ari, and petapan what they have to say about this post.
In post 269, xRECKONERx wrote:cheet and shea have told me to stop being an asshole and read hectic's posts bc they're not that bad. fine. coming later. ive got zoomthings happening right now.
<3 these guys!
(And <3 you too Reck. Geez )
(I had to look up your 4th since AGar hasn't been mentioned but yeah I can give them a <3 too )
(But that's it! I mean sheehs, what am I? Made of <3's??)
...I think I see why people see my posts as fake now.
Oof, sending my love my friend! I hope part 2 goes well <3In post 271, Creature wrote:
Just finished the first part of this shit exam and my reaction is:In post 24, Creature wrote:I don't think that's necessary. It's just that I have an important exam on Sunday and I'm afraid this game may distract me from my studies.
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Shit! I said that was it on the hearts! GDI!
I see why DV voted me but what was your reason?
You claimed I dipped on the thread and on answering things but then when I tell you I'll be back, that is when you decide to vote me? Why??
I will say though, nice little rhyme there
Oh no my eyes are glazing over now. This isn't even a long or hard read.
Fuck man.
This deadpool alt is fun at least.
Sorry, I knew I'd seen this asked but I couldn't remember where/when. I mentioned in one of my catchup posts that my thoughts were badly stated. I didn't mean tunnel on this like a scumread, but rather hyperfocusing in lieu of other content.In post 300, Augustus Caesar wrote:Ari is Ari so far. the takes he's given on Reck are okay, not too sure otherwise
however, Reck never expressed a scumread on me, in fact, he's only had me as a varying level of ~town~In post 287, Aristophanes wrote:I'm not sure I understand the question. I think his response to my response probably showed that the raging is genuine, but I hope he's done more since then and isn't just raging for the sake of it so he looks like he's contributing without giving any content and having an
.easy slot to tunnel
I was busy yesterday and work 12h today but if I get a lunch break I'll be back to catch up! Otherwise it will be mostly tomorrow, for which I apologize.
what gave you the impression he is or plans to tunnel me?
btw did you like the cute red highlight i used? i thought it'd be on-brand
Also yes, the red you used was very cute/cheeky <3
Pay them lots of money, usually.In post 316, Creature wrote:How tf do I get to higher education?
Also, awesome. I had light Creature townvibes early on but pg 13-14 solidify it
Okay, now it's a meme I guess lolIn post 338, The Bulge wrote:lmao 4th again
Any thoughts on the more recent comeback posts?
*waves to Ydrasse*In post 346, Summer Nights wrote:similarly i guess that could go for ari because i don't feel he's done too much i guess? i feel like if i'm wrong about someone so far it would proooobably be him but i don't think so right now, it's not heartbreaking to me if he gets voted out but i'd rather avoid it in the hopes that he comes back and like. goodposts
Hello my friend! I have returned! Thanks for believing in me <3
Can I join the "Wtf is Sirius doing" fangroup or nah?
Oh, and this catches me up to my catchups.
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Fuck that was a long one.
Imma give my eyes a break now. Be back in a bit.Half meme, Half real, All Aristophanes ;)- JingleAri has appeared way too competent for me to even pretend to know what they're thinking
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Oh right, I saw that post and that I was the intended vote but the sparkly vibes of the Adorable wagon grabbed your attention. And that's fine. I had to ask.In post 387, Datisi wrote:
at the time of typing 280, i already decided my next vote was going to be you. it was just a matter of time. originally was gonna vote you in that one, but something distracted me with adorable idk. i couldn't resist hopping onto a shiny new wagon.In post 385, Aristophanes wrote:You claimed I dipped on the thread and on answering things but then when I tell you I'll be back, that is when you decide to vote me? Why??
also i don't really care about posts saying "i'll be back" or "i'll do it later". ok we'll talk later then.
life is marchin' on, do you feel that~? ♫ ♩In post 385, Aristophanes wrote:I will say though, nice little rhyme there
can you make some sorta readslist or something when you're back?
Townread: Hectic, Creature
Townlean: xofelf, DV, Petapan
Null: Datisi, Adorable
Scumlean: The Bulge, Ydrasse
Scumread: Reck
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I kinda figured it would come down to a supporting pressure vote tbh. Again, makes sense with thread trajectory. Thanks!In post 388, petapan wrote:
it was part me starting to think reck wasn't responding to being voted the way i feel scum would, and part dv saying you should be getting more attention combined with your popin. it was not a strong feel. one of my teammates did read the game and said they didn't like your approach to reck but this was after i made the voteIn post 385, Aristophanes wrote:I see why DV voted me but what was your reason?Half meme, Half real, All Aristophanes ;)- JingleAri has appeared way too competent for me to even pretend to know what they're thinking
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Sure thing!In post 392, Datisi wrote:
i wanna hear more about me, creature, and ydrasse, please. c:In post 390, Aristophanes wrote:Townread: Hectic, Creature
Townlean: xofelf, DV, Petapan
Null: Datisi, Adorable
Scumlean: The Bulge, Ydrasse
Scumread: Reck
Creature is an easy one. They came in hard after their required time away and posted so many of my own thoughts I was really surprised how similarly we lined up. As well there's no agenda or badfeels from their posting leading me to townread them quite heavily. I look forward to more from them
Ydrasse has a bunch of moments (which I think I pointed out) that just ring as potentially scummy to me. The early alt-story interaction was an easy way to fluff their way into the game and avoid RVS. The weird "what do you like" question to Adorable was another of these moments and I feel like, as has been mentioned (by xof iirc) that it was an extremely lowball question that could either be aimed at getting a scummate to provide content or to pose as town that is asking questions to help lead us to a solve without actually doing anything. Those are the 2 from the top of my head.
Datisi, well, I want to scumread you for tone but I also am fairly certain I'm wrong. I think we're going to be at odds for a lot of this game but I also don't think being at odds is necessarily scummy. Like, you're not null because I don't have a read on you but because my read is entirely conflicted.Half meme, Half real, All Aristophanes ;)- JingleAri has appeared way too competent for me to even pretend to know what they're thinking
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I'll be honest, this is the most work I've put into a mafia game in a long time and I'm drained. I'll see what I can do to sort this better tomorrow.In post 395, Datisi wrote:frankly by now i forgot about the early alt thing or the fact you mentioned it. the reaction to "what do you like" i did remember, but mostly because i better remembered your reaction to my reaction to that.
ok this is what i wanna talk about. and by talk about for now i guess i mean just throwing these same questions back at you, but come on you can't write something spicy like this and not elaborate. why is my tone scummy to you, and why are you at the same time certain you're wrong? why are you conflicted and how can i help you here?In post 393, Aristophanes wrote:Datisi, well, I want to scumread you for tone but I also am fairly certain I'm wrong. I think we're going to be at odds for a lot of this game but I also don't think being at odds is necessarily scummy. Like, you're not null because I don't have a read on you but because my read is entirely conflicted.
As a short answer right now, I think we are approaching the game very differently and it is obvious if you look at how we are reading and interacting with it. You have a serious jokey tone that in itself leads to a conflict in my mind but I think your approach to the game probably rings genuine despite it being so different.
I'll come back with a proper conversation, as I say, but yeah.Half meme, Half real, All Aristophanes ;)- JingleAri has appeared way too competent for me to even pretend to know what they're thinking
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Oh wow you have 22 posts??
Uhm, you seem to be most familiar with Datisi , what is your read there? It might help me anyway.
What is your read on Ydrasse as well?In post 163, Sirius9121 wrote:
I'm easily the worstIn post 159, Summer Nights wrote:my other delusional theory this game so far has to do with an early sirius wagon trying to get him flustered and pushed on
player here
so they're trying
to make a wagon on me
NO U
And do you still think you're the worst player here? If that's the case, why would we be pressuring you for content?Half meme, Half real, All Aristophanes ;)- JingleAri has appeared way too competent for me to even pretend to know what they're thinking
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And inb4 Reck says I'm ignoring them. I'm not. I'm just going to respond tomorrow.
Asking Sirius Qs is easy. Responding to you takes brainpower i do not have atm.Half meme, Half real, All Aristophanes ;)- JingleAri has appeared way too competent for me to even pretend to know what they're thinking
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You should have some experience with at least Ydrasse, Creature, and Hectic. Any thoughts on the three?Half meme, Half real, All Aristophanes ;)- JingleAri has appeared way too competent for me to even pretend to know what they're thinking
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Fyi Adorable, if you pur the post numbers in "post" tags they'll link us to the posts making it easier to reference what you're talking about. Posts like 447 and 449 (see what I did there) would be a lot easier to follow if you did that
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Also I fund all of the attention on beeboy funny because xof hasn't been here in the same amount of time and nobody cares? There was a 3 hour difference between their last posts.
Like I get that beebs is a meta point but still, the fact that nobody cares if a slot that has only 3 posts has been silent the same amount of time be has is funny to me.Half meme, Half real, All Aristophanes ;)- JingleAri has appeared way too competent for me to even pretend to know what they're thinking
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Yeah but some people have certain tendancies. My town gane ans scumgame are vastly different in both actuvity and engagement, as noted before. Some people just perform in a certain way as a certain alignment most og the time.In post 453, Sirius9121 wrote:inactivity, or activity otherwise, is really non-indicative of scum or town.
As an example,in my only scum game on MS, notscience, who wasthe second highest poster, was scum.
Using a reference to Notty in defense of beeboy is odd. Did you think that one up or did your team tell you to mention activity not being AI?Half meme, Half real, All Aristophanes ;)- JingleAri has appeared way too competent for me to even pretend to know what they're thinking
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In post 456, Datisi wrote:pedit: dootHalf meme, Half real, All Aristophanes ;)- JingleAri has appeared way too competent for me to even pretend to know what they're thinking
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That's true, petapan. They are on the Mish Mash side of things far more often and their posts were alright so far if nothing that stands out.
I just wanted to point out that doubke standard. And Inmean rolling scum as someone who doesn't play a lot would possibly scare them away so Iunno, it's something to address with them/their replacement I guess.Half meme, Half real, All Aristophanes ;)- JingleAri has appeared way too competent for me to even pretend to know what they're thinking
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Eyy its beeboy!! <3
We missed you!
No, I'd say read fresh and give us your thoughts without our interference. It's a short enough game so far with decent content.Half meme, Half real, All Aristophanes ;)- JingleAri has appeared way too competent for me to even pretend to know what they're thinking
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Haha yeah, Imma wait for content tho. We have time.Half meme, Half real, All Aristophanes ;)- JingleAri has appeared way too competent for me to even pretend to know what they're thinking
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Absolutely!
I am going to Iso them and do a Datisi thing later today. Right now I'm here in a mostly reactionary capacity.Half meme, Half real, All Aristophanes ;)- JingleAri has appeared way too competent for me to even pretend to know what they're thinking
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So, uh, beeboy...any luck yet or...?In post 466, beeboy wrote:Is anyone here is there something I should know before I read back?
My team has been yelling at me while I do other things and I am starting to feel bad.Half meme, Half real, All Aristophanes ;)- JingleAri has appeared way too competent for me to even pretend to know what they're thinking
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Noted, Isis.
I will do better.
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Wait am I artistic boi or is that Datisi?Half meme, Half real, All Aristophanes ;)- JingleAri has appeared way too competent for me to even pretend to know what they're thinking
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(I am not artistic but I get called "Art" on the forums sometimes and my standard avatar is artistic and part of the reason I am shortened to that)Half meme, Half real, All Aristophanes ;)- JingleAri has appeared way too competent for me to even pretend to know what they're thinking
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XD Well said!
I hate to pry but also I'm going to.
That's a really short half a readslist and I don't get why you didn't respond to like, anything but did respond to the gallows thing.
Have you read the game? Is that really all you have for us?Half meme, Half real, All Aristophanes ;)- JingleAri has appeared way too competent for me to even pretend to know what they're thinking
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I haven't said anything for 5 pages but also feel like the game is mostly on autopilot right now and there's not much to say?
I mean, for starters this is long overdue...
UNVOTE: Reck
I can backburner this and rethink things as we go. I mean, my team had answers for your alignment as both towny and scummy and it's obviously not something I can make happen today so whatever.
Pretty sure we're set on beeboy and while my stance that it's mostly NAI remains, I'm not actually against it.
I do find it interesting that Reck voting there while saying "meta is trash, but lets yeet this guy" is mostly accepted while my saying "screw meta and let him have a chance" is mostly not accepted but I think that's also probably not as telling as I'd like it to be.
Uhm...I still have to do the Bulge and Datisi things and will get to that. Also I'd address xof but I don't exactly know how to here.
Like my mentioning of you and beeboy in the same framework was strictly activity levels and not content levels and the answers people gave were quite reasonable.
Also I don't see the put on persona you do (probably because I really don't feel I'm putting one on here) and I mean, that's w/e anyway.
Uh, mostly okay with day ending whenever so we don't stall out and will vote beebs is I need to despite them being as null as one can be.
Oh, also I wanted to address Reck, one sec I'll get the quote!
It's obv from his readslist.
I don't know that it's actually scummy, but I feel like Reck is obviously either misrepping or misunderstanding me in a lot of thins here.In post 577, xRECKONERx wrote:Aristophanes: boy, this is just a weird, gross kinda slot. overeager is ari's brand, but something ab the early RVS joke play here feels hollow and nongenuine. the hop onto me with hectic was awful. "reck is off" isn't anything. i asked for an elaboration and he couldn't give one, he just backpedaled on using the word "off". p much my entire adorable townread epiphany came from looking at how far ari was bending over backwards to defend her. the hop off and hop BACK onto me is gross, and it's all wrapped up in this defense of adorable's contradictory behavior. i don't believe town would have such a boner for shutting down someone calling out contradictions. he also has this entire narrative he's putting out there that i was ever attacking or tunneling on hectic when i literally haven't the entire game, he's just trying to use my loud personality to poison the well. it's all scummy as fuck.
The hop onto you with hectic had a lot to do with a #fuckit attitude. When you asked about me saying you were off I did not just backpedal and I thought my recognizing that the statement was flawed was fine. I did say other things there yaknow. I stand by my defense of Adorable and I really don't see why town wouldn't do what I did there. Defending someone you know to be odd when they are odd makes really good sense to me. And I did not create a narrative of you tunneling on hectic. That was another falter in phrasing which I addressed. I was saying that as scum I would expect you ho stick on something that you could easily make outrage posts about. I thought it would be Hectic's posts. It ended up being Adorable's. I know you have a loud personality, and I am literally not "poisoning the well" with that fact. Nice try tho.
Like the more I think about it while writing this the more it looks to me like a blatant misrep of me in order to discredit me and this read I have on you, and I'm not cool with it.
I would legit Eliminate you if it were my choice. Alas it's not and I must therefore drop it for now. But this is not going away. I am already regretting the unvote I've made in this post and it hasn't even been posted yet.
Oh,I missed the hop off and back onto you. Can you explain why that's "gross"? Because looking at this, "gross" tells me just about as much as "interesting" told you and I'd like a fuller explanation.Half meme, Half real, All Aristophanes ;)- JingleAri has appeared way too competent for me to even pretend to know what they're thinking
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I guess there was more to say than I thought.Half meme, Half real, All Aristophanes ;)- JingleAri has appeared way too competent for me to even pretend to know what they're thinking
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1. I meam, as scum I dould jump on or shade it until I could. My response would likely have been that Adorable is odd and that I think that's scummy but want to give them a chance to change that. Then as long as the wagon stays viable I'd jump on it. I'm really sure that would have been my plat play there as scum. I mean, a person on the scumteam defending them would be possible too but it probably wouldn't be me.In post 613, xRECKONERx wrote:1. Do you think scum would refuse to defend Adorable? how do you think scum would play around Adorable, if town, and she was being pushed by town? Would they pile on? or would they defend? Or ignore?
2. You implied I was going after Hectic, I was not. Walking it back because both me and Hectic himself called you out on it after the fact doesn't really do much for me. Like... testing the waters by slightly misrepping what was happening is kinda what scum would do, and if called out on it, I would expect them to backpedal not double down. Because like, what's the other option? "Oops, you got me, I was lying for no reason"? No, you've got to try to talk it down somehow or recontextualize it.
3. You say "nice try tho". What does this mean? You're implying you think I'm "trying" something nefarious. That is clearly implying that I'm scum, yet in the very same post, you've unvoted me and said I'm on the "back burner". This looks very much like you trying to throw shade my way to keep the door open for jumping on me again when it becomes politically convenient for you to do so, while backing off of a wagon that is no longer popular.
2. I did not fucking walk that back. Here I'll quote what I said:
In that post I said I hope you're not raging for the sake of raging giving you an easy slot to tunnel.In post 287, Aristophanes wrote:I'm not sure I understand the question. I think his response to my response probably showed that the raging is genuine, but I hope he's done more since then and isn't just raging for the sake of it so he looks like he's contributing without giving any content and having an easy slot to tunnel.
I was busy yesterday and work 12h today but if I get a lunch break I'll be back to catch up! Otherwise it will be mostly tomorrow, for which I apologize.
Not said: "Reck is tunneling Hectic"
Wow. Tough reading. Definitely some backpedaling needed there. I clarified already that my intent was not to imply you were scumreading Hectic. I never said you were! This isn't a backpedal because it's literally fabricated in your mind!
3. Yes, I was implying you're scum. I noted regretting the unvote. I noted that I would literally eliminate you now if I could. Like basically if I had a vig shot I'd rather aim it at you than anyone else atm.
I realize, however, that a tunnel like that could hurt both our reads and the gamestate. I have enough awareness to say to myself "wow, Reck obviously isnt the Elim today. Maybe I should put that aside since it looks like beeboy is the Elim and I don't want to clutter the game at a point when the day is winding to a natural close. Maybe I even said all that in that very post! :O
I literally backed off because it's not going to happen today. I'm not shading you, I'm scumreading youm but I have enough sense not to drag us into a 1v1 right now.
I have no response to 614. I was catching up and recalibrating as I went. Simple.
I don't think I've run into "sitrep" before, should I know what it means?Half meme, Half real, All Aristophanes ;)- JingleAri has appeared way too competent for me to even pretend to know what they're thinking
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I apologize but timing is not on my side again. I'll be back tomorrow.
Reck, I didn't Iso Dive because I was making a quick response on the go. I'll get there. It seems I missed a lot too so this should be fun when I get there!Half meme, Half real, All Aristophanes ;)- JingleAri has appeared way too competent for me to even pretend to know what they're thinking
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If you get caught up and present thoughts I'm happy, whatever style works best!Half meme, Half real, All Aristophanes ;)- JingleAri has appeared way too competent for me to even pretend to know what they're thinking
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Though xof and Reck will both vote for summarized blocks I'm sure.Half meme, Half real, All Aristophanes ;)- JingleAri has appeared way too competent for me to even pretend to know what they're thinking
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In post 770, Creature wrote:Should we ever do Aristophanes?
Also Happy Scumday!
Also also I need to do this game today/tomorrow. I feel like I've neglected it and am way behind again.Half meme, Half real, All Aristophanes ;)- JingleAri has appeared way too competent for me to even pretend to know what they're thinking
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*looks at VC*
Oof, are we that bad at pronouns here?
Uhm, I'm really sorry I've not been motivated to be here. I'm trying to change that.
I have word from a teammate that RCE is still the best option for Elimination today despite some of the meta for beeboy being imperfect.
I'll mention intent but with basically that means I'll hammer if we get too close to deadline.
Sorry again. I just feel like there is so much to do and so I'm putting it all off, as if that's a good solution
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Hey all, I have class for the next few hours and then this game is my priority. I've let it slip.
I did see the beeboy flip and I guess I should have listened. I'll look at interactions around the slot at soms point because, well, they're probably going to be helpful.
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