For having so many alts.
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I agree with Ydrasse here. Can't say I'm looking forward to 1000+ pages on day 1, but I guess I'm here for it.In post 52, Ydrasse wrote: 50 people butting heads probably and posting 13073489 times and im going to be -_- about it when we hit page 300
You're not chopped liver my sweet kitten, but give me something more to work with this game and you won't feel left out.In post 74, Malakittens wrote: Glad I’m chopped liver VD.
It was my shop teacher.In post 80, Shirou wrote: I'm not sure 100% sure if it was Sun Tzu that said it though.
Maybe it was Einstein or Tesla.
Are you now?
@MastinaIn post 86, ItalianoVD wrote: Would you like to elaborate?
I've played games where both DGB and Mastina have said more earlier rather than later. Mastina is coming in now, but DGB's presence is more known by now.In post 91, Ausuka wrote:Please elaborate on what this is trying to imply?In post 72, ItalianoVD wrote: DGB hasn't said much, which is interesting for her, same with Mastina.
Last post I posted post #12, when I came back there were like 3 more pages so I quickly read the pages and decided to do a quick catchup, mainly for myself, but also for anyone else who may have been curious about my thoughts.In post 98, Ausuka wrote: Mm, I get that. I'm more so asking about
1) why were you saying this, like, so close to the start of the game where a lot of people just haven't checked in yet and
No, not necessarily alignment indicative, just that I haven't seen it from DGB before.In post 98, Ausuka wrote: 2) when you say it's interesting, what does that mean? Like, are you implying it's alignment indicative?
I like you, we play very similar.In post 100, Shirou wrote:Hmm, I like to think of myself as a bit better than some sees me as, and worse than some others do. depends on the games the person has played with me I guess?In post 83, ItalianoVD wrote: So Shirou, according to your profile, I should take your scumhunting with a grain of salt? Yes?
The hero roleplay thing was kinda a meta pun about the fact I often try to "play hero" and do/lead everything myself
so I can link you games where I had pretty good reads and lead on scum for a town victory, and games where as a townie I was the single biggest detriment to a town win, and also some games where I was a mix of the two depending on what stage of the game we were in
I like to think that both my biggest strength and weakness are my stubbornness
When I get stubborn about scum that's cool and all, I keep tunneling them and warping the game until they die unless I'm not motivated enough for some reason, but when I get stubborn about a townie I guess you better be ready for an absolute shitshow and everyone facepalming me in post-game
Hey! I'm the token shady person here!In post 83, ItalianoVD wrote:We can suck at hunting scum together,but I'll let you take the credit if we fail no worries.
But offer accepted![]()
Fair enough.In post 109, Ausuka wrote: It's not that I don't understand what you're saying, I just wanted to see if there was more to what you were saying than what was on the surface. I think it looks, like, a very nothing and filler thing to say, and so far I think that could apply to all the rest of your posting too, especially the "I like the pressure on koba" thing
VOTE: Italiano
For you.In post 108, DkKoba wrote: I think it makes perfect sense for dgb to be absent considering, well, the retirement from mafia for the most part.
No for other reasons.
Why would I waste beans like that?In post 118, DkKoba wrote: spill the beans italiano
I'm happy you're here then, look forward to see how the game progresses.In post 130, xofelf wrote: I don't think DGB not posting means anything yet. It's possible she hasn't been around yet to know the game started.*but* I have played with her probably more than most people here, so I feel confident that whatever her entrance is, she's somebody I can actually *read* and not just vibesfeel.
Hey don't judge me.In post 145, Shirou wrote: aside from perhaps italiano's "DGB has been really quiet"
It means I'm townreading her, but I've been wrong. Why was that so hard to understand?In post 153, DeasVail wrote:I have a tendency to scumread Mala but I townread them here. I don't know what this means!In post 148, ItalianoVD wrote: I always have a tendency to townread mala especially with 143. I think I've been right like once in three times or something like that.
Gotcha. Apologies, I thought you were saying you didn't know what was meant by what I was saying.In post 156, DeasVail wrote: oh I was referring to myself, not you. As in, I am mildly concerned that I usually scumread Mala regardless of alignment and that I'm townreading them here, but I'm going to go with thinking they're probably town.
Cool, thanks for clarifying that and yes still happy to have you here.In post 163, xofelf wrote: To be clear, I meant out of the people in the playerlist that I've played with, I've played more games with DGB. Not that I've played more games with DGB than other players have. But thanks <3
Let's hope you're on your game then, so we won't have to take over.In post 160, DkKoba wrote: i have bigger concerns like carrying this game
Don't really see what was so scummy about 201
Have you had a chance to zero in on your thoughts and get a better read on Mastina?In post 206, Arko wrote: I think it's more the teammates in the back of the head that gave me this but there is just something that I don't like at all about mastina. The posts from them are giving me major confusion and a scum-vibe, and plus my teammates are in general consensus that somethin is god damn wrong about it, and even after a short read that I'm redoing I'm agreeing with my teammates.
I'm melding with your reads apart from Ausuka.In post 209, Arko wrote: 201 is basically a saying of- I failed basic reading today, but I generally have found a few I'm not liking too well- And at the end basically say I agreed with mala.
Also one random thing to add- What's so towny about italiano anyways. It feels painfully null to me.
Hmm... General thought bowl go (In no order of importance or even alignment lean)
Xof feeling slightly town
Ydrasse feeling slightly town
Mala feeling town
Ausuka feeling null-town
Italiano feeling null- Also mastina interactions feel slightly weird. I'm feeling at least one scum out of it, actually- if you added one other weird person I'd probably say 100% one scum between it but only 2 people makes me pretty sure that I can't tack 100% on that- Because I wouldn't believe that and if I did that would be stupid.
Shirou feeling null-town
Aisa feeling null
More to this? probably will expand the thought bowl once the full reread is done.
AlmostIn post 220, DrippingGoofball wrote: I think Deasvail, mastina and DkKoba are town.
+1In post 221, DrippingGoofball wrote: Feeling good about Ydrasse and xofelf.
Also +1In post 223, DrippingGoofball wrote: Shirou is town.
Why are thinking I should I be voting you?
Ahhh, don't answer for me.In post 229, Shirou wrote:Inactive vs Active suspect dilemma? Welp, he can reply himself I guess
either way, just want to say Ali has said for the fifth time to vote Kowah because she's townleaning most active players
but as I stand here,
I realize,
that I'm gonna bully her again and say no.![]()
Oh dang, was it something I said?
I actually townleaned Aisa's post here. What is it about it that you don't like?In post 248, DrippingGoofball wrote:OMG this is soooo easyIn post 237, Aisa wrote: Thoughts on Ydra.
Gun to head I would still call her null. Some of her posting feels quite natural. She's doing some scumhunting and while I don't always find her conclusions super solid I can easily see the world where her ISO is her actual thought process at this time.
But there is this one thing that bugs me:
I feel like the (look like I have thoughts) to (thoughts) ratio in her ISO is quite high. Mostly because (look like I have thoughts) is so high. She has a supremely easy to follow ISO at the moment because every little action and implication is made explicit. This is pro-town but perhaps something scum are even more incentivised to do than town?
The feeling started when she made this post.In post 124, Ydrasse wrote: UNVOTE:
for reference i voted aisa because i thought their opening was a little stilted ie mirror someone's vote on them rather than post something wholly unique and the .1% thing in reference to me felt nervous to take much of a stance. i also thought that their reply to me in 94 wasn't as telling as i wanted but
felt like a towny thing to say, i guess it could be a copout but tonally i believe itAisa wrote:Oh and I wanna know why mastina thinks I'm town
There are so many questions of that sort I could direct to various people that I'm almost feeling a bit of choice paralysis lol
Vote / question someone -> unvote after their reply
Is definitely a pattern I've seen from scum before
This is another thing that pinged me. Kinda agree with it, but at the same time am still wary of Mala because her read on mastina rings major "could be a scum tunnel" alarm bells. So Ydra comes across to me like she doesn't have this paranoia I am feeling, which in turn makes me wonder if this is just a sentence, packaged ready for consumption, rather than a read she actually has.In post 181, Ydrasse wrote: i think i agree most with the mala read, it's not an unreasonable one for her to have and she doesnt feel very threatened or like, on edge i guess as if she was pretending to feel that strongly and then being challenged
Any thoughts here from anyone who is more familiar with her?
VOTE: Aisa
Mmmm. Not sure if you're serious?In post 249, DrippingGoofball wrote: TOWN
DrippingGoofball (Ancient Guard)
Arko (Average TM Enjoyers)
Ausuka (Frog Friends)
DeasVail (Klickin’ Chickens)
DkKoba (Jingle Ballers)
Kowahbunga (Studies Show)
Malakittens (Ghosts of NKs)
Mastina (Shadow Syndicate)
Shirou (Perfectly Balanced)
Xofelf (Crispy Cream Puffs)
Ydrasse (Polymewl)
SCUM
Aisa (Whimsical Activities)
ItalianoVD (We Don’t Mafia)
The other scum might as well confess.
That's scummy??In post 331, DkKoba wrote: italiano scummy based on their complaints about activity being the first serious thing they said about the game (later agrees with my vote there)
No, not at all, but it felt like busy work with not a real attempt to actually sort me. I also didn't like how you voted Koba because of Shirou, unvoted because of 'Datisi' and then revoted because of Koba. Were you actually scumreading Koba and if so why?In post 345, Ausuka wrote:Is the implication here that if you ask about anything, you have to townread the answer?In post 342, ItalianoVD wrote: I also don't like how Ausuka asked me about my thoughts and when I answer, seemingly not good enough for them, they vote me, which is meh?
Town does a lot of different things, so who knows, but I would've taken it in stride and kept an eye on them. My point is why ask a question if your vote is a forgone conclusion. To clarify, I'm not saying your vote was, but that's how I perceived it. You asked, I answered, my answers weren't good enough for you, vote.In post 360, Ausuka wrote: What do you think town would have done differently there?
No I wasn't actually scumreading Koba
To be fair, Koba does the 180 thing like all the time and I've come to realize that it's not ai, but I'm with you on the concept, if that makes sense.In post 361, Shirou wrote:In post 49, DkKoba wrote:In post 48, Shirou wrote: She claims to have a day/night difference in her town/scum play but honestly I find her a hard readits pretty easy for meand she still doesnt know what the difference it ;DIt's not about being "scatterbrained", you've done a 180º on how you theoretically view mastina as a slot you need to sort and it's puzzling? maybe you were just being cheeky in the first quote but it's hard for me to sympathize with this progression because I view it like as if walked back on how well I can read Norwee and that would never happen because...it's true?In post 356, DkKoba wrote: lets just say i tend to prefer to ignore mastina in gamesand i rarely have a good confident read on her regardless
Meuh pockets everybody.In post 351, Shirou wrote: (*Meuh PSTD flashbacks*)
Okay, fair enough. Why was it unfortunate that Datisi thought Koba was town and that you had to go elsewhere? What are your thoughts on Koba now?In post 360, Ausuka wrote: No I wasn't actually scumreading Koba
My perception.In post 367, Ausuka wrote:Ok, so what about that suggests it was a foregone conclusion? Isn't that just contradictory to the idea that your answers weren't good enough?In post 362, ItalianoVD wrote:Town does a lot of different things, so who knows, but I would've taken it in stride and kept an eye on them. My point is why ask a question if your vote is a forgone conclusion. To clarify, I'm not saying your vote was, but that's how I perceived it. You asked, I answered, my answers weren't good enough for you, vote.In post 360, Ausuka wrote: What do you think town would have done differently there?
No I wasn't actually scumreading Koba
In post 370, Ausuka wrote: Ok well my perception is that you're full of shit
So are you gonna actually try to sort me or what? You've played with me and you know how I post and how it's always 'suspicious'.In post 372, DkKoba wrote: the words italiano types wash over my brain in a not pleasant way - meaning i am having trouble parse them due to how fluffed up the sentences are(they lack a concrete point)
Nope, not at all, I've actually been townreading you for a while now.
Explain. In your own words.In post 401, DkKoba wrote: iirc last night pb said that 375 was bad enough that it should be buried now
Welcome to the Koba show.In post 402, DeasVail wrote: Hey Koba I feel like you ask a fair bit of me but when I try to get an idea of where your thoughts are at, I either get a dismissive response or none at all. It feels as if you’re putting on a show for certain slots that you’re relying on townreads from, while ignoring others.
Fair. Same for you.In post 406, Ausuka wrote: It was intentional - I don't think going back and forth on it is going to be productive. I don't think if you are town there is anything I could ask that would make what you were saying more believable to me at this point. I'd rather just take it into account and see what you do going forward.
Last time I checked Koba was playing this game not pink ball.In post 428, DkKoba wrote: VOTE: italiano pb saw something and now I want to kill this bc I think it's like 99% flipping scum
Don't really know what to say about it. Example(s)?In post 465, xofelf wrote: There's always this undertone that doesn't match the words in most of the posts, and it is driving me batshit
Whatever. You're wrong and you acting as if you've solved the game is goofy.In post 464, DrippingGoofball wrote:What disgusting, nasty, uncalled for comments.In post 460, ItalianoVD wrote:
But since we're talking teammates, Drixx and Cerb told me DGB is useless and should be scumread for existing, and if she is removed from the game and is town there will be no material loss.
What do you think you'll accomplish by spreading this toxic negativity?
I also think you're wrong about Aisa as well.In post 468, ItalianoVD wrote: And while I'm not as adamant as my teammates about DGB, I know with a 100% fact that she is wrong about me.
Yeah don't worry about me lol. I tend to get in my feelings when I'm wrongly scumread. It really sucks when it's from people that haven't played with you and actually know your scumgame or scumrange. Oh and especially when it's something weak like "he said interesting about DGB's activity"In post 471, xofelf wrote:I've got plans tonight, but yeah, I'll dig through your iso again when i can and give you which posts bugged me the most. Sorry you're not having much funIn post 466, ItalianoVD wrote: Frankly I'm not really feeling this game and have been trying to have fun and trying to connect with this playerlist, but it's just not happening. When everything you post is scumread without any semblance of actual sorting it gets old fast.
Don't really know what to say about it. Example(s)?In post 465, xofelf wrote: There's always this undertone that doesn't match the words in most of the posts, and it is driving me batshitanything in particular that could help with that aside from the obvious being scumread sucks and is a moodkiller?
In post 475, PenguinPower wrote:
Yeah it's supposed to say... "It really sucks when it's from people that haven't played with you andIn post 477, xofelf wrote:I think you accidentally a word here. Is it more sucky from people who *have* played with you, or haven't and don't know your scum vibes? Which, I would be curious for an example so I can compare.In post 473, ItalianoVD wrote: It really sucks when it's from people that haven't played with you and actually know your scumgame or scumrange.
I have my reasons. Worry more about my read than my vote as of right now.In post 478, DkKoba wrote: i do wonder why italiano has yet to move their vote to a wagon of someone they *claim* to think could be scum rather than sticking on someone they supposedly townread, it cant be to keep that wagon alive, could it?
Come on Shirou, come to the dark side and townread me.In post 491, Shirou wrote: I don't scumread Italiano but I'm not gonna say he's town either