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Do you think the speed wagon is scummy?
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To be fair mathematically that is probably true. I know there is likely not enough to go on right now, but in a few (irl) days, I'd like to know who you think is most likely if that's okay?In post 31, Naerys wrote:i think atleast 1 scum is hiding there
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Trust me I'm disappointed in myself too lol.
Of course it would have been funny if this had actually gone through, but I got cold feet
With that being said, I do want to get some information out of Day 1 that a quick lim probably doesn't get us.
Naerys is probably right that there is a decent chance that the scum might have been hiding on the wagon as it was growingthomith could be a court jester
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In post 46, Oblivion wrote:Not as disappointed as it is in all of you. Do you truly think this is an acceptable method to find scum? There are members here whose votes it understands. For whom it believes there is merit and a town mental model for approaching a wagon in this manner. It does not make it less disappointed in the very existence of this wagon.
Whose votes do you think are more likely to be town motivated?thomith could be a court jester
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Can you elaborate please?In post 57, Oblivion wrote:In post 53, Thomith wrote:In post 46, Oblivion wrote:Not as disappointed as it is in all of you. Do you truly think this is an acceptable method to find scum? There are members here whose votes it understands. For whom it believes there is merit and a town mental model for approaching a wagon in this manner. It does not make it less disappointed in the very existence of this wagon.
Whose votes do you think are more likely to be town motivated?These ones, it thinks.
Most people voted without a reason, why are those votes more townie?thomith could be a court jester
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Okay cool.
The initial vibe from Oblivions reaction to the E-1 made me think it could be overreacting as scum to gain town points by pointing out something that is likely to be seen as potentially anti town.
The way it responded to questioning though, makes me want to townread it for now.thomith could be a court jester
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It feels like Oblivion is genuinely trying to sort.thomith could be a court jester
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In contrast, I'm finding myself disliking this reaction.In post 42, KayJayQueue wrote: Is this real? lol Day 1 is silly
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Do you have any opinions on the speed wagon? Any votes you find weirder than the others?thomith could be a court jester
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What do you think of Oblivions reaction to the wagon?In post 70, KayJayQueue wrote:
I find it crazy that it was that close to an elimination. I have done the random vote at the very beginning before but I’m much more tentative to make a real vote initially until I get a better feeling so I can’t tell if the speed voting is just for fun or is something that I’ll get used to with more games. I don’t know how to read the people that jumped on. I can say I don’t think it was bad from the first vote or maybe the second but I don’t know what jumping on is usually indicative, alignment wise. Or how to tell the 3-7 votes apart.In post 66, Thomith wrote:
In contrast, I'm finding myself disliking this reaction.In post 42, KayJayQueue wrote: Is this real? lol Day 1 is silly
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Why not?In post 78, Naerys wrote:
i dont agree with thisIn post 57, Oblivion wrote:In post 53, Thomith wrote:In post 46, Oblivion wrote:Not as disappointed as it is in all of you. Do you truly think this is an acceptable method to find scum? There are members here whose votes it understands. For whom it believes there is merit and a town mental model for approaching a wagon in this manner. It does not make it less disappointed in the very existence of this wagon.
Whose votes do you think are more likely to be town motivated?These ones, it thinks.
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I feel like she was just memeing.In post 89, Naerys wrote:
well, the vote itself felt like RVS, but her later reactions like " i am disappointed in you" etc felt like attempt to manipulateIn post 85, davesaz wrote: Naerys, what are you thinking about Gypyx starting it?
could be scummy tbh
Her posting after the fact seem to be genuinely trying to sort people, and do feel like her point about people finding it harder to fake reactions early is also kind of valid.thomith could be a court jester
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Why?
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What is the point of this post?In post 129, Little Will o' Wisp wrote:
Ok, I'll rephrase that bullet point:In post 106, Naerys wrote:
I dont like the way you are mocking our response to the speedwagon.In post 103, Little Will o' Wisp wrote: "Wagon bad, WTF everyone!" is such an easy and predictable response that I believe that at least one off-wagon scum made it. (One of Naerys, Kay, Oblivion)
- The notion that that speedwagon is harmful for the town is both 1. easy to come up with; and 2. would feel natural coming from anyone off the speedwagon. Therefore, it is likery that at least one off-wagon scum would bring it forth to appeal to likeminded townies.
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In post 138, Hu Tao wrote:
Titus may be susIn post 109, Titus wrote: Hu Tao and Wisp town. Dave and Naerys sus.
Dave sus bc whiteknight. Naerys likely fake suspicion.In post 141, Hu Tao wrote: RN is sus too right now. Why so much sus.
Could you elaborate on all of these please Hu Tao?In post 142, Hu Tao wrote: I still think Dave is worst.
VOTE: Dave
This doesn't feel like the town Davey I'm used to.thomith could be a court jester
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How early could you tell before?In post 189, Hu Tao wrote:
It's nothing specific. Just past games I could feel you were town, this game so far I don't.In post 187, davesaz wrote:
Can you point to something specific that feels different, only 8 pages in?In post 180, Hu Tao wrote: But I think Dave is more differentthomith could be a court jester
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You have, but usually it takes a fair bit longer than this?In post 191, Hu Tao wrote:
Have I not done the same thing to you? So why ask?In post 190, Thomith wrote:
How early could you tell before?In post 189, Hu Tao wrote:
It's nothing specific. Just past games I could feel you were town, this game so far I don't.In post 187, davesaz wrote:
Can you point to something specific that feels different, only 8 pages in?In post 180, Hu Tao wrote: But I think Dave is more differentthomith could be a court jester
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Hm actually in hindsight in Classic Commercials it may have been as early as this.thomith could be a court jester
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Why is Naerys scum?
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If not you, who should we vote instead?In post 224, Little Will o' Wisp wrote:
Beats me.In post 220, NotAScum wrote: what did willow do to get so many votes?thomith could be a court jester
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In post 226, Little Will o' Wisp wrote: If not me, you should vote Naerys.thomith could be a court jester
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+1In post 252, KayJayQueue wrote: You’re annoyingthomith could be a court jester
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Not sure how much I like this postIn post 260, KayJayQueue wrote:
Bold of you to accuse 3 people that aren’t currently voting for you when you only need 3 more votes to get hammered. Thats fun, I like it.In post 258, Little Will o' Wisp wrote: I still think one of Naerys, Kay and Oblivion is scum for their response to the Snow wagon. And Naerys is the only one of those three who commented on it (when she complained about my mocking tone).
I tried to pick a fight with Naerys, but unfortunately she declined to give me one.thomith could be a court jester
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I feel like this post comes from either frustrated scum or potentially frustrated newtown, but I can't really tell which currently. The game kind of stalling makes me concerned this wagon could just be incorrect, but I guess that could just be due to peoples availability this early.In post 235, Little Will o' Wisp wrote: No comment.
Didn't mention this yesterday but this post also gave me off vibes too.In post 236, Naerys wrote:In post 235, Little Will o' Wisp wrote: No comment.
Do atleast try to make a case on me, if you genuinely think i am scum.
Keeping an eye on Naerys/Kay for now, mainly because these posts ping me as off, but can't hugely put my finger on why at the moment.thomith could be a court jester
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It feels like posting to look like you are present, without really adding much? I feel like there is a world where this comes from scum trying to look like they are contributing through commenting on things, when those comments don't necessarily progress anywhere.In post 262, KayJayQueue wrote:
Because?In post 261, Thomith wrote:
Not sure how much I like this postIn post 260, KayJayQueue wrote:
Bold of you to accuse 3 people that aren’t currently voting for you when you only need 3 more votes to get hammered. Thats fun, I like it.In post 258, Little Will o' Wisp wrote: I still think one of Naerys, Kay and Oblivion is scum for their response to the Snow wagon. And Naerys is the only one of those three who commented on it (when she complained about my mocking tone).
I tried to pick a fight with Naerys, but unfortunately she declined to give me one.
To be fair though, that could be saying more about the current game state than your alignment.thomith could be a court jester
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Any further thoughts on this yet?In post 69, Naerys wrote:
SureIn post 39, Thomith wrote:
To be fair mathematically that is probably true. I know there is likely not enough to go on right now, but in a few (irl) days, I'd like to know who you think is most likely if that's okay?In post 31, Naerys wrote:i think atleast 1 scum is hiding there
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I admittedly struggle to read you day 1, which is why i haven't committed further than "I find these posts weird and want to point them out"In post 267, Naerys wrote:
This is how i play as town. People geep repeatingly SR for similiar stuff so i might just change my style of playing completely,lolIn post 263, Thomith wrote: Didn't mention this yesterday but this post also gave me off vibes too.
Keeping an eye on Naerys/Kay for now, mainly because these posts ping me as off, but can't hugely put my finger on why at the moment.thomith could be a court jester
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As in what I'm saying seems far fetched?In post 273, Gypyx wrote:
I do agree that it's digging very deep for something that's a bit far fetchedIn post 264, Thomith wrote:
It feels like posting to look like you are present, without really adding much? I feel like there is a world where this comes from scum trying to look like they are contributing through commenting on things, when those comments don't necessarily progress anywhere.In post 262, KayJayQueue wrote:
Because?In post 261, Thomith wrote:
Not sure how much I like this postIn post 260, KayJayQueue wrote:
Bold of you to accuse 3 people that aren’t currently voting for you when you only need 3 more votes to get hammered. Thats fun, I like it.In post 258, Little Will o' Wisp wrote: I still think one of Naerys, Kay and Oblivion is scum for their response to the Snow wagon. And Naerys is the only one of those three who commented on it (when she complained about my mocking tone).
I tried to pick a fight with Naerys, but unfortunately she declined to give me one.
To be fair though, that could be saying more about the current game state than your alignment.thomith could be a court jester
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Snow because I think it gives us the most information because of the speed wagon that happened at the start of the day, and helps us begin to solve based on that.In post 284, Oblivion wrote: If you had a button to eliminate any player this second without ending the day, and they would flip, who would you choose?thomith could be a court jester
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Almost like we are trying to gather information to advance the gamestate.In post 293, geraintm wrote: People trying really hard to generation content.thomith could be a court jester
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I think the question asked is actually pretty good at figuring out what people's mindsets are currently, which, while maybe not immediately useful, may become more useful once we do have flips.In post 295, geraintm wrote: Yeah, but it isn't useful. It is the ekuivalent of my daughter asking me if I would prefer to be a flower or a tree.thomith could be a court jester
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Do you think it being busywork is alignment indicative?In post 298, JacksonVirgo wrote: I think the question was busywork. Firstly the question is just overlying blegh, I don’t agree with Thom but also Oblivion just dipped immediately after wanting a consistent back and forth.thomith could be a court jester
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The vibes I'm getting from 236 are weird enough that even after taking into account I do struggle to read you day 1, I don't think I can ignore it, so want to explore this option right now.
I also don't like how the game kind of went stagnant after the Willow/Dave wagons grew, and it makes me wonder if scum were just letting the game narrative stay that way, and so both wagons could just be wrong, which is why I'm not that interested in either wagon right now.thomith could be a court jester
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Do you think that makes us potentially scum together?In post 314, Naerys wrote:
There is something icky about how Thomith and you voted for Wisp one after another.In post 271, PenguinPower wrote:
why not?In post 269, Naerys wrote: also kinda dont like Penguin´s position on Wisp,thomith could be a court jester
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The difference that I saw is you seem to he attempting to solve more generally, while it appears as if Naerys is focusing on the people that are voting her almost completely.In post 334, KayJayQueue wrote:
Well from what I saw, the reasons that people were sussing/voting her were things that I did as well. So if I agreed with the vote it would be like agreeing that I was in the same boat. Obviously, I don't agree with that assessment.In post 332, davesaz wrote:How hard did you look at the vote reasons? Are they any more or less valid than typical for d1?
Also how does the comment relate to the unvote?
The unvote doesn't really relate but I didn't feel like making 2 posts. I unvoted to be able to add a vote to a someone that was not Naerys but I haven't felt strongly enough to do so. My gut says Will'O but I also have a couple other people I am considering. Just trying to gather info at this stage.thomith could be a court jester
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This is a recent development to be fair, Naerys did seem to be trying to solve based on the Snow wagon early, but more recently has been focusing mostly on people voting her unless prompted.In post 336, Thomith wrote:
The difference that I saw is you seem to he attempting to solve more generally, while it appears as if Naerys is focusing on the people that are voting her almost completely.In post 334, KayJayQueue wrote:
Well from what I saw, the reasons that people were sussing/voting her were things that I did as well. So if I agreed with the vote it would be like agreeing that I was in the same boat. Obviously, I don't agree with that assessment.In post 332, davesaz wrote:How hard did you look at the vote reasons? Are they any more or less valid than typical for d1?
Also how does the comment relate to the unvote?
The unvote doesn't really relate but I didn't feel like making 2 posts. I unvoted to be able to add a vote to a someone that was not Naerys but I haven't felt strongly enough to do so. My gut says Will'O but I also have a couple other people I am considering. Just trying to gather info at this stage.thomith could be a court jester
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@Willow why do you think Naerys is scum?thomith could be a court jester
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This feels genuine to meIn post 355, Naerys wrote: Almost every game i basically get punished for trying, so idc anymorethomith could be a court jester
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In post 309, JacksonVirgo wrote: So true kingIn post 330, Hu Tao wrote:
Why am I scum?In post 329, geraintm wrote:
My last vote was my Random vote from thr start of thr gameIn post 328, Hu Tao wrote: The people that unvoted Dave, can I know why?
Do any of you suspect someone at the moment?In post 318, NotAScum wrote:
I cant tell if its satire or not.In post 308, PenguinPower wrote: Indeed, I too find that in the realm of wagon dynamics, also known as wagonomics, nestled snugly within the town/scum-plane curvature of said wagon's interior, lies a peculiar point dubbed "Point PP3" or the PenguinPoint. This enigmatic locus defies conventional wagon analysis, oscillating between states of scum-like ambiguity and town-like absurdity. Its coordinates, expressed purely in the language of mathematics, would be as follows: (π^2 + √5, 2.71828...).
It is here, within the confines of Point PP3, the laws of wagonomics intertwine with the calculus of imagination, yielding conclusions that dance in the mists of uncertainty. It has been said that only the most audacious of waggoners dare venture close, for at this singular spot, the very fabric of rationality frays into nonsense, where town and scum lose their meaning, and the imaginary alignment frolics merrily with its real counterparts. Truly, Point PP3 stands as a testament to the profound absurdity that lurks beneath the veneer of wagonomics.
If so, who?thomith could be a court jester
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Do you think Naerys declining to "pick a fight" with you is alignment indicative?In post 258, Little Will o' Wisp wrote: I still think one of Naerys, Kay and Oblivion is scum for their response to the Snow wagon. And Naerys is the only one of those three who commented on it (when she complained about my mocking tone).
I tried to pick a fight with Naerys, but unfortunately she declined to give me one.thomith could be a court jester
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Why do you think she is scum then?In post 361, Little Will o' Wisp wrote:
No. She would be a lot easier to read if she did, that's why it's unfortunate.In post 359, Thomith wrote:
Do you think Naerys declining to "pick a fight" with you is alignment indicative?In post 258, Little Will o' Wisp wrote: I still think one of Naerys, Kay and Oblivion is scum for their response to the Snow wagon. And Naerys is the only one of those three who commented on it (when she complained about my mocking tone).
I tried to pick a fight with Naerys, but unfortunately she declined to give me one.thomith could be a court jester
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Pinging to say I think you also missed mineIn post 360, Hu Tao wrote: Gera why ignore my question?thomith could be a court jester
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In post 372, Hu Tao wrote:
Where? Can you post it againIn post 367, Thomith wrote:
Pinging to say I think you also missed mineIn post 360, Hu Tao wrote: Gera why ignore my question?In post 358, Thomith wrote:In post 309, JacksonVirgo wrote: So true kingIn post 330, Hu Tao wrote:
Why am I scum?In post 329, geraintm wrote:
My last vote was my Random vote from thr start of thr gameIn post 328, Hu Tao wrote: The people that unvoted Dave, can I know why?
Do any of you suspect someone at the moment?In post 318, NotAScum wrote:
I cant tell if its satire or not.In post 308, PenguinPower wrote: Indeed, I too find that in the realm of wagon dynamics, also known as wagonomics, nestled snugly within the town/scum-plane curvature of said wagon's interior, lies a peculiar point dubbed "Point PP3" or the PenguinPoint. This enigmatic locus defies conventional wagon analysis, oscillating between states of scum-like ambiguity and town-like absurdity. Its coordinates, expressed purely in the language of mathematics, would be as follows: (π^2 + √5, 2.71828...).
It is here, within the confines of Point PP3, the laws of wagonomics intertwine with the calculus of imagination, yielding conclusions that dance in the mists of uncertainty. It has been said that only the most audacious of waggoners dare venture close, for at this singular spot, the very fabric of rationality frays into nonsense, where town and scum lose their meaning, and the imaginary alignment frolics merrily with its real counterparts. Truly, Point PP3 stands as a testament to the profound absurdity that lurks beneath the veneer of wagonomics.
If so, who?thomith could be a court jester
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I was pinging Hu Tao to tell them that they missed one of my questions, not youIn post 380, geraintm wrote:
i didn't?In post 367, Thomith wrote:
Pinging to say I think you also missed mineIn post 360, Hu Tao wrote: Gera why ignore my question?
i went back and checked, and you quoted me in a huge nested post but i didn't see anything directed at me?thomith could be a court jester
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Wasn't sure if I wanted to outright say this, because ew meta, gross, but I can second this experience.In post 383, Random Nurse wrote:In post 382, Snow2697 wrote: Questions from Gypyx and geraintm make sense.
I do not rule out possibility that Wisp is scum who tries to compromise three town players (Kay - Oblivion - Naerys).
But what worries me most of all here is that Naerys is refusing to respond to questions about her thinking and its reasons.
I will say in a recent completed game as Town Naerys refused to answer my questions so we yeeted her. She's done this as Town.
It's enough that I don't think I want to Lim Naerys today.thomith could be a court jester
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Do you have any suspicions?In post 385, NotAScum wrote: With this post, I'll finally surrender the inactivity throne to biancospino.thomith could be a court jester
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Why are you voting Hu Tao?
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VOTE: JacksonVirgo
*poke*thomith could be a court jester
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I'm not super happy with the amount of people not wanting to commit to any reads atm, but got to think about what that means for each of them right now.thomith could be a court jester
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Since we're throwing subtle shade, do you think my lack of vote until recently makes me scum?In post 403, PenguinPower wrote:
i'm not super happy with the amount of people not wanting to lay down a vote atmIn post 396, Thomith wrote: I'm not super happy with the amount of people not wanting to commit to any reads atm, but got to think about what that means for each of them right now.thomith could be a court jester
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Do you scum read the people that were not voting?In post 410, PenguinPower wrote:
no - it was, as i said, everyone not voting.In post 407, KayJayQueue wrote: I feel like RN and Oblivion have been absent from the game and not just “not voting” so really it was me and Thomith that Penguin had the issue with but I don’t really see why it’s a problem. I explained when I unvoted that I wanted to figure out the best option that wasn’t Naerys since I didn’t believe in that wagon. Unfortunately, the game hasn’t moved much so I didn’t get much info on where to place my vote.
voting = doing something meaningful
words = saying a bunch of stuff that could or could not be meaningfulthomith could be a court jester
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No, but you are stating distaste for not voting, without giving further information on peoples alignments based on this distaste.In post 413, PenguinPower wrote:
Did I say I did?In post 412, Thomith wrote: Do you scum read the people that were not voting?
Is your distaste based on you thinking voting is too valuable not to be doing, or do you find not voting alignment indicative?thomith could be a court jester
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I agree, but now I'm directly asking you for you think it's alignment indicative from the people that are not/we're not voting.In post 417, PenguinPower wrote: i've been pretty clear at this point why i think voting is importantthomith could be a court jester
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