Mini 2332: A Mid-scummer Nights Dream II | GG

[Catgirl Chipotle]

Nyaaaaa uwu

I've correctly read my role PM. What would you like to order? UwU

[Catgirl Chipotle]

VOTE: Gimli

I-I'll have to place my vote here for now!

They have been trying to vibe but do not past the vibe checks! 47 67 Are an X on the extra scale!

Your order shall be downgraded to a kids meal.

[Catgirl Chipotle]

I forgot to ask Alisae if they want the shy uwu one or the stoic one so the posting style is subject to change when they join the game 23 hours from now.

[Catgirl Chipotle]

I also didn't expect people to talk about the dreams this much when if anyone besides me remembers last game trying to play "guess the dream" was a waste of time until like D3. Although they mostly had some amount of logic you could connect the dots to. Doing so D1 is. . .eh?

[Catgirl Chipotle]

(I understand no one is going to stop doing it but it also won't stop me from expressing my dislike for it cat ears down and everything)

[Catgirl Chipotle]

I'll put a hairball in your burrito if the slide dream isn't pushed up to top 3.
Best to get rid of bad dreams early me thinks.
They also won't discard it and will likely discard an unknown, so what dreamer can do is dreamer can learn the unknown dream and then either choose that dream or remove slide dream from play.
It'll make day hell because any abilities that affect the vote are awful to deal with but better to deal with it sooner rather than later.

[Catgirl Chipotle]

I also didn't expect people to talk about the dreams this much when if anyone besides me remembers last game trying to play "guess the dream" was a waste of time until like D3. Although they mostly had some amount of logic you could connect the dots to. Doing so D1 is. . .eh?

yeah like the slide thing has no relationship to what's presented already so I don't expect anyone to guess anything right from names.

but you can see some stuff about how the thinking process behind some guesses is more towny or a scum faking it and is a point of interest to me. whats your take on that from current guesses?

Isn't this just factually incorrect? Unless the scum team is aware of every dream or has a power to know the answer of most they're able to make guesses just like the rest of us. There's no reason to fake something that is also unknown information. Just because you're scum does not mean everything you do is fake. That's also why I have opinion on the guesses because it's a shot in the dark with no value behind it.

[Catgirl Chipotle]

Dunn checking in.

VOTE: Gimli

I-I'll have to place my vote here for now!

They have been trying to vibe but do not past the vibe checks! 47 67 Are an X on the extra scale!

Your order shall be downgraded to a kids meal.

These aren't linked correctly.

I don't see an issue with 67. The slide stuff is not something mafia would have known ahead of time, If I'm understanding the setup correctly. So their reaction to the slide reveal does not seem particularly indicative or "extra" to me.

"Link posts Maria put in some effort Maria it'll be fun they said"

can't I just be lazy? boohoo.

[Catgirl Chipotle]

I also didn't expect people to talk about the dreams this much when if anyone besides me remembers last game trying to play "guess the dream" was a waste of time until like D3. Although they mostly had some amount of logic you could connect the dots to. Doing so D1 is. . .eh?

yeah like the slide thing has no relationship to what's presented already so I don't expect anyone to guess anything right from names.

but you can see some stuff about how the thinking process behind some guesses is more towny or a scum faking it and is a point of interest to me. whats your take on that from current guesses?

Isn't this just factually incorrect? Unless the scum team is aware of every dream or has a power to know the answer of most they're able to make guesses just like the rest of us. There's no reason to fake something that is also unknown information. Just because you're scum does not mean everything you do is fake. That's also why I have opinion on the guesses because it's a shot in the dark with no value behind it.

Well if you believe this then I'm confused about why you thought 67 was bad. I thought that you thought that they were faking a reaction.

Faking a reaction=/= Overplaying a reaction

[Catgirl Chipotle]

dream quality is irrelevant here.
promoting revealed dream is always correct here.

Revealed Dream
Unrevealed Dream
Unrevealed Dream

Wolves discard revealed dream? Great, we don't have to deal w/ it. TBH I think we will have to deal w/ that dream eventually? Plurality isn't even that bad, we all should be competent enough to prevent a tie and if a tie does happen then that's informative as well.
Wolves discard unrevealed Dream? That's also fine. Dreamer has 2 revealed dreams to work w/.

[Catgirl Chipotle]

User Sunflower what do you think about users Kyoko and Klick

[Catgirl Chipotle]

I have all 3 of you as town

[Catgirl Chipotle]

That is all

[Catgirl Chipotle]

Also Prism likes hairballs apparently.

[Catgirl Chipotle]

that doesn't particularly mean anything I'm just spiteful because they disagree with me.
Disagreeing with me isn't wrong or anything I just feel like being spiteful

[Catgirl Chipotle]

Disagreeing with me isn't wrong or anything

i disagree

that's it, you're getting a hairball in your taco

[Catgirl Chipotle]

I-I disagree with a lot of the thread but am unaware of how to have a conversation about it that I think would be productive ngh.

I find Dragon's posting towny and I don't understand the townread's on Prism's slot.
There posting is very well written like reading a royal script, but I would've come to expect that as either alignment. If any of the people townreading them wish to expand more on why that would mean a lot.

I think out of all the pressing thoughts I have right now those come to mind most, and my Gimli read still stands post catch-up. uwu

[Catgirl Chipotle]

I haven't played with Dragon before, I just think their posting is sort of unapologetically awkward. A lot of the stuff they'd have to be doing intentionally that I just do not foresee a wolf doing so early when it doesn't really do them any favors.

[Catgirl Chipotle]

I feel like I just got scolded by my math teacher for scoring an 80 over the expected 90 on my test. Ngh, time to go back to my corner and watch.

[Catgirl Chipotle]

How dare they taint that omori pfp with those shades.

[Catgirl Chipotle]

Seems like I signed up to run a daycare

[Catgirl Chipotle]

I'm lost this game. So I'm going to blend into the background. Is that okay?

No this is unacceptable

[Catgirl Chipotle]

Hu Tao?
More like
Hu Chained to the desk

[Catgirl Chipotle]

I'm lost this game. So I'm going to blend into the background. Is that okay?

No this is unacceptable

But why

because I’m a great and powerful evil whose very existence and words deny you from doing what u want if u decide to give those words power
Muahahahahahaha

[Catgirl Chipotle]

You ate too many dragon burritos that’s what it is

[Catgirl Chipotle]

I only voted for slide
Stay mad I suppose

[Catgirl Chipotle]

how is voting for the neutral that won't get discarded by wolves negative utility?
If anything, it's safe in the event one has to pick between neutral or bad.

I understand the logic of starting of strong and trying to get 2 good dreams but we only have information for 1/6. That's a 20-40% chance.
I want a 100% chance guarantee that nothing bad will happen. Promoting Slide allows us to get that while also scouting 2nd dream.

Sounds like the safe play to me.

[Catgirl Chipotle]

from my pov we have a information for 1/6 dreams and by not promoting it, we are opting to do nothing with that information or not use that information in any way. Will this be a big deal? Who can say. I'm posting hours before its locked in lol.

[Catgirl Chipotle]

I'm also the only person that's blatantly advocating pro-slide so like where is this idea that a pro-slide movement is being suggested by wolves even coming from

[Catgirl Chipotle]

this is trivial to me I want to get to the part where I can vote to kill someone. And no, I don't have someone specifically in mind who's blood I want to drink like fine wine.

[Catgirl Chipotle]

it's interesting progression from gimli that's all I can really say on the matter

[Catgirl Chipotle]

I lean towards it potentially being wolf motivated

[Catgirl Chipotle]

I'm also the only person that's blatantly advocating pro-slide so like where is this idea that a pro-slide movement is being suggested by wolves even coming from

you, klick and then also black

I named all three of you

KLICK JUST EXPLAINED HOW TO PLAY WITH THE OPTION!
That doesn't particularly mean he's for against it, it just means that it's a neutral dream.
You said it's a BAD dream. Neutral is not bad.

[Catgirl Chipotle]

Black apparently picked slide because she was not aware that if it was just not picked we wouldn't see it again. That's different. Klick I think is also under that impression as well.

I've read and I still stand by that even if Slide were to be discarded if not picked, that I want to proceed by using the neutral dream to scout an unknown one safely. To me, starting neutral is just as fine as getting a positive dream. I am okay with neutral dreams, I am also okay with good ones. I don't want bad ones.

[Catgirl Chipotle]

its far too late for my voice to influence the decision I imagine and I doubt my philosophy aligns with others. Other people wanna go fish? That's fine, they can go fish. I personally opt to want to stack the deck so that it is unfavorable towards wolves.

[Catgirl Chipotle]

im saying I didn't and once upon reading the thread, that it doesn't rly change my opinion on the matter.

[Catgirl Chipotle]

im only voting for slide I don't care lol

[Catgirl Chipotle]

ig I could vote for vi because I'm curious but other people will want to vote and I don't rly feel strongly about the matter. I don't rly have much to go off of and speculating off of a name sounds pointless to me.

[Catgirl Chipotle]

thank god I decided not to be a teacher

[Catgirl Chipotle]

anyone looking to uh
change their vote on car seat

why would I do such a thing

[Catgirl Chipotle]

ok let me rephrase my question
why would I want to vote car seat?

[Catgirl Chipotle]

are you saying you know that it is explicitly bad?

[Catgirl Chipotle]

so its based on nothing
got it

[Catgirl Chipotle]

so its based on nothing
got it

people who think it's a protective also have that idea based on nothing

thank god I don't think it's a protective or anything then

[Catgirl Chipotle]

so its based on nothing
got it

people who think it's a protective also have that idea based on nothing

thank god I don't think it's a protective or anything then

what do u think it is then

ur mum

[Catgirl Chipotle]

I probably wont and I didn’t read it

[Catgirl Chipotle]

Inb4 Dragons uses up all 100 posts

On that topic.

I said as much to Black(and mistakenly thought it was Prism who commented on it), but Silver Ravens(not sure if it was gif or Dunn specifically)......I know I agreed with you about Dragon spewing alignment as they post......but after I thought about what you said some more, you have minimal experience with them.......why would you assume this and make it a point to give them benefit of the doubt to let them live?

You should hurry up and respond before Dragon reawakens lol

-Drew

Drew how am I supposed to tunnel you when there are only 100 posts? This is so sad. Everyone should post a reads list as their last post of "content" allowed and we can simple follow whoever has the highest level of suspicion.

I know Alisae has their town circle of people and I'm still trying to get other wolfreads that aren't exactly Gim.

[Catgirl Chipotle]

dang bro
shoulda picked the slide

[Catgirl Chipotle]

You have Gimli claiming i'm a roach, Dragoneater screaming behind me about how a hairball ended up in his burrito, Doctor Drew behind me. Wrath of the slide king was lit bro. It is what it is.

Also if ur name is "DragonEater70" "JupiterXV" "Black" or "Aureal" please limit your posting to 0-3 posts a day. 100 posts is manageable but every post matters. A response is not required nor recommended. Thank you for your cooperation.

It is my personal opinion that this day should end once people start using up their extra posts.


Von Payne is town.
Dragon is town. This explanation is for Prism mostly but my initial opinion is that Dragon's initial vote on Klick I thought was something that came from town.
Sunflowers is town.
Silver Ravens is gut town
Kyoko is gut town.
Klick gets a d1 pass and is probably just town.

Ydra I think is a gut wolf and Gimli is my initial suspect but ultimately I still haven't really processed everything nor am I in a rush to. I think what I have so far is a good start.

[Catgirl Chipotle]

VOTE: Sunflower

[Catgirl Chipotle]

VOTE: hu tao

[Catgirl Chipotle]

VOTE: actiondan

[Catgirl Chipotle]

VOTE: aureal
we need a votecount. Multiple people need to actually post something.

ActionDan - Gutwolf + Needs to post
Gimli - probably town just because his progression on our slot is all over the place and it doesn't seem agendy.
Von Payne (Black/Doctor Drew hydra) - Very Town
DragonEater70 - Very town
Kyoko Kirigiri - Somewhat town
Klick - Need to post + D1 pass.
Hu Tao - I can't make heads or tails of her. Heads says that her posting lacks town motivation. Tails says there are too many things that just don't make sense.
Prism - Decently town
Aureal - Need to post
Silver Ravens (GuyInFreezer/Dunnstral hydra) - Gut Townie
Sunflower (fireisredsir/JupiterXV hydra) - Very town
Ydrasse - I feel like I need Ydra TRs explained to me because a lot of the people I have as town right now are townier. This is gut wolf #2

Game could just be Ydra + Aureal + Dan and wolf presence is non-existent. It would also explain a lot of things.

[Catgirl Chipotle]

VOTE: actiondan

[Catgirl Chipotle]

With all this talk about Hu Tao I don't really care if people move votes there as long as it's between Aureal, Dan, and Hu but Dan and Hu seem like the right move.

lol @ Klicks post for a lot of reasons but I don't think me or my hydra partner want to address it this phase.

This is lazy thinking to go after the least active players only. Usually there are mafia in the players who are posting and going after only lurkers is the wrong move.

What you're doing is lazy thinking. Just because they're not as active doesn't mean they can't all have red role pms : ) Especially when none of the reasons they're being scumread is due to activity.

[Catgirl Chipotle]

VOTE: hu tao

[Catgirl Chipotle]

VOTE: Hu Tao

[Catgirl Chipotle]

Thank god I can play the game now dear god.

[Catgirl Chipotle]

if I die tonight I suggest flipping sunflower first

i litrrally townread you, what?????

Ignoring Gimli is +EV dw

[Catgirl Chipotle]

if I die tonight I suggest flipping sunflower first

i litrrally townread you, what?????

Ignoring Gimli is +EV dw

whats ev

Estimated Value

[Catgirl Chipotle]

if I die tonight I suggest flipping sunflower first

i litrrally townread you, what?????

Ignoring Gimli is +EV dw

whats ev

Estimated Value

ok sorry i'm dumb but whay does this mean in context, does it make me more valuable to ignore gimli?

Yes they've openly changed their reads all game etc. Trying to debate this on twilight before death? Not worth

[Catgirl Chipotle]

tbh I'm at the point where I'm considering wolf!klick angles
I'm really not sure about anything

ActionDan - I'm still not sure how people are TRing them and tbh if they flipped town it would give me an idea of how wrong I am on the gamestate.
Gimli - feels like a wolf but I feel like things might just end up being very just out of my control at this point. Their solve feels convenient if anything. I really didn't like the post where Gimli said Kyoko dunked on wolves because I feel like I've seen wolves post that in response to those kind of posts if they're on villagers so often.
Von Payne (Black/Doctor Drew hydra) - Still feels town.
DragonEater70 - Still feels townie
Kyoko Kirigiri - I know I'm a villager, I'm not sure when it was the last time I shared a villager alignment with her. Strong player. I don't think that case is alignment indicative because she just explained what I thought was the easy interpretation of hu tao's interpretation. It was a cold analysis that lacked heart. I explained how I felt about Hu tao but I felt comfortable killing it off because killing those players off is really just the best way to solve them. Anyway my initial impression is that Kyoko is a villager for her early game posting.
Klick - My gut tells me that they're the wolf right now and they're TMI'ing Dan. It feels like cosmic forces are pulling towards needing to fight someone but I don't know who, but if I had to guess, it's either Klick or Kyoko. Probably Klick.
Prism - Still seems townie
Aureal - My gut tells me that they're uninformed but I think her confusing who is posting in our hydra, as well as our posting, makes sense if she has AFK teammates.
Silver Ravens (GuyInFreezer/Dunnstral hydra) - I remember having them as town but who knows
Sunflower (fireisredsir/JupiterXV hydra) - They still seem townie to me
Ydrasse - Also feels townie now but could have just been a wolf that leveraged knowing Hu Tao's alignment to better position herself for the future.

[Catgirl Chipotle]

omg hii

I thought flipping hu tao was better than let the gameday drag and it would be pointless to defend her

this post probably happens as either alignment but I don't like that out of the game you're trying to justify yourself.
We did need a dead body but this just reads bad for gut

[Catgirl Chipotle]

yeah ok I can see it being catgirl/sunflower/????

aureal's last post while restricted was overflowing with genuine emotions and I don't think some of what she said there are possible if she is scum. particularly the part about wanting to play, needing time, not liking post restriction. I understand scum can feel these things, but not the way she wrote it. I felt it from here.

klick, DE, kyoko, ydra are def townies

I think I'll put silver/ad/aureal on a lower still p town tier

then there's von payne, who I think could be scum but I felt drew was a townie talking to me yesterday. and prism who I can see being scum.

and then catgirl and sunflower are POE'd down scum imo

I think you're setup to go after Von Payne in the event you claimed my flip which really does jsut make me think you're a wolf here

[Catgirl Chipotle]

if I die tonight I suggest flipping sunflower first

i litrrally townread you, what?????

Ignoring Gimli is +EV dw

me and my team of townies will defeat you!!!

If I wanted to reach, I would say this was a slip because they're separating themselves from "the team of townies" but like this is easily a reach here so...

[Catgirl Chipotle]

I think its just catgirl/sunflower/von payne at this point

this is a really strong team and we're gonna have a very hard time beating them if I'm right

I want to speak mostly with my towncore (klick DE kyoko ydra), and I really won't waste much of my time talking to the people I'm positive are not playing this game in good townie faith (catgirl and sunflower). getting into a 1v1 with catgirl will be particularly bad, so I'm not replying.

klick where you at

you're mafia taking a page out of my book lol.
your agenda to me reads as extremely obvious

[Catgirl Chipotle]

we need a votecount.

btw this is for klick if you are actually a villager.
you should know that if I was actually a wolf, I would not be posting this. I would not do it for towncred either as I have no need for utilizing cheese strategies for towncred, I would simply just keep track of the vote in my wolf pt or in notepad at all times.

[Catgirl Chipotle]

I'm making Maria log off before she screams at the screen one more time, but yeah it's just Gimli lol

[Catgirl Chipotle]

I think Gimli is just scum. I'm not sure if Drew agrees but we'll talk about that between us

A lot of Gimli's "solving" has felt artificial and agenda driven. I don't think his progression from town!Sunflower to scum!Sunflower makes any sense. I think his unwaivering confidence in his towncore and the way that some of them got there (kyouko, ydra in particular) makes even less sense. I'm just getting the vibe that Gimli is doing very shallow stuff and fluffing it out in a way that makes it look like he's critically thinking about the solve. When you piece together some of these reads and progressions they just don't add up

This sequence in particular just feels completely fake to me

okay, drew, I trust you. I think I was barking up the wrong tree with you two. I'm also thinking you're probably not scumming with catgirl, so my solve wasn't good anyway.

yeah ok I can see it being catgirl/sunflower/????

aureal's last post while restricted was overflowing with genuine emotions and I don't think some of what she said there are possible if she is scum. particularly the part about wanting to play, needing time, not liking post restriction. I understand scum can feel these things, but not the way she wrote it. I felt it from here.

klick, DE, kyoko, ydra are def townies

I think I'll put silver/ad/aureal on a lower still p town tier

then there's von payne, who I think could be scum but I felt drew was a townie talking to me yesterday. and prism who I can see being scum.

and then catgirl and sunflower are POE'd down scum imo

I think you're setup to go after Von Payne in the event you claimed my flip which really does jsut make me think you're a wolf here

I think its just catgirl/sunflower/von payne at this point

this is a really strong team and we're gonna have a very hard time beating them if I'm right

I want to speak mostly with my towncore (klick DE kyoko ydra), and I really won't waste much of my time talking to the people I'm positive are not playing this game in good townie faith (catgirl and sunflower). getting into a 1v1 with catgirl will be particularly bad, so I'm not replying.

klick where you at

This is the type of surface-level thinking you see from scum trying to legitimately solve like town. All it took was Catgirl accusing Gimli of posturing himself to fade me for him to disregard his previous feelings about my slot and throw us into his new solve. It feels more like fake scum thoughts than fluid townie ones

~B

What do you make of Aureal?

[Catgirl Chipotle]

CW to hu tao is all townies I think

I think one of the scum has to be sunflower now

Hmm, looking at the wagon comp I feel like Catgirl is the most likely scum on Hu, I think it's likely all of us who got on after are town. I'm... not sure of Kyoko yet, it feels kinda bold for scum to so strongly push a town wagon but she'd make sense partnered with Dan and trying to push away from that, or Prism maybe. Von Payne is not quite there in the green block with us yet, I was getting a bit of weird vibes from Drew and his talk about wanting more interaction, like he was trying to hint maybe he didn't even realize there was a post restriction? Like I can almost believe he wouldn't, even in a hydra where his partner should definitely be talking about it with him, because I recently did hydra with him and he uh maybe didn't pay that much attention to me at times

I dunno about the cw and their towniness, I really need more from 2 of them and need to look closer at Ravens.

Pedit: oh wow people are posting a lot, I'm so slow on phone x.x

yes

ok I like what you're posting here aureal, I really want to INVITE YOU TO MY TOWNCORE, but I guess we need more

I think kyoko just legitimately thought hu tao had to be scum for sure. no scum would need to go too hard on it to push it through so I don't think it's something she'd really put herself through just to get townread or whatever. the case made sense and her later dunking on hu tao shows me she was legitimately passionate about the read.

you reek of bullshit

[Catgirl Chipotle]

I'm not gonna lie I haven't read any of Aureal's posts

They were big and I did a lot of skimming over the weekend. I've been too busy this week to look at certain people and posts more closely

I have time to check her ISO real quick though

~B

Aureal hates it when I find out she is town lol

Stop ignoring me in our chat and I will explain

-Drew

you two are so town it hurts

[Catgirl Chipotle]

@black, catgirl is scum and is pocketing you

figure it out

also figure out who's the third in the catgirl/sunflower/???? team idk who it is

I have literally said that both Maria and Ali are both capable of trying(and potentially succeeding) in pocketing me.......and yes if they are they are focusing their efforts on me, not Black

For that reason I could be convinced they are scum, but that is also a shitty reason by itself to think they are scum

Maria might just still feel bad after last game lol

Also Gim's, don't act like I am lock towning you here.....Black is more than capable as a player(really hot take I know lol), so I definitely will not discount her read on you......and like I said, my read on you was from a game awhile ago so who knows if the meta is still viable.

I don't really see Sunflower as scum, but kinda need some time really focusing on them and picking through the fluff that Jupiter has been posting lol

tl:dr.......I am having trouble after Hu's flip and figuring out Aureal is town to have a solid scum read

-Drew

this idea of us pocketing you is a fantasy that you have. It's your idea. We're not trying to do anything with our posting

[Catgirl Chipotle]

time to white knight

i think that it's dangerous to play like gimli's playing right now as a wolf even if it's not particularly "good" town play because boxing yourself in can be a hard thing to get out of. it's a bit shallow at times and more vibes and confidence than maybe deserved but i struggle to see the wolf that does this. i will also hedge on THIS opinion and say i could be wrong but i don't feel like there's malice.

this reads like tmi

[Catgirl Chipotle]

its catgirl and prism + 1

bro stfu with ur communist agenda if you're playing the way you are as a villager you deserve to lose and this is exactly what you told me when I tunneled you into the ground as a wolf

[Catgirl Chipotle]

Drew your role is broken btw

[Catgirl Chipotle]

Look does anyone even have even the slighest ideas as to who Dragon could have hid behind

[Catgirl Chipotle]

prism was townreading catgirl for disagreeing on mechanics which is a horrible reason to townread catgirl or anyone for that matter

prism's early tunnel on DE was artificial and very poor, if she is a good and seasoned player none of that happens. also the read on hu tao was so perfect that feels exactly like TMI.

I think the last scum can actually be AD because the way he ultra townreads prism early, could be a scum buddy cheerleading on a partner's good looking posting.

I feel lonely and friendless in this game.

you are making shit up as u play
It is actually crazy

[Catgirl Chipotle]

It’s actually criminal what drew got left alive with the role he has
Actually crazy

[Catgirl Chipotle]

Klick would and should be townreading me if we ever had a proper conversation

[Catgirl Chipotle]

Gimli can post as much as the guy fuckin wants but that’s who we’re killing today

[Catgirl Chipotle]

its catgirl and prism + 1

n1 was hilariously poor, the 4 of you put almost no solve in

I'm amazed how many hours fireisred managed to metadive me and still get the wrong conclusion

spending three real life days being tunneled without answering was so annoying

ok cry about it im allowed to do what i want during the three-day long night phase and i shouldn’t have to be solving during the night phase -

brilliant

can we make a deal that if we flip one of the people I'm pretty sure are scum (catgirl, prism) then von payne will add me to night phase so I can put proper work in? it'll be last last week of being able to play some mafia and I'd like to try solving this

Hey can we make a deal so that if I get what I want, I get more of what I want?????

[Catgirl Chipotle]

I am going to go crazy if I post anymore tbh
Talking to gimli is not worth it bro this guy is crazy

[Catgirl Chipotle]

Is that out of line

[Catgirl Chipotle]

Ok then

[Catgirl Chipotle]

gimli can you explain what changed your mind on Aureal the last phase?

They're a wolf making things up

[Catgirl Chipotle]

you really shouldn't, I wouldn't.

In the meantime I have two questions for Sunflower and Catgirl.

For Catgirls.

I would really like to know what you guys have been thinking about Aureal, as you voted there and feels like there's something on the tip of your tongue but have yet to say it.

For Jupiter: what made you put/declare Aureal a scum read in 830?

I feel like, you should vote them and we don't need to talk about it anymore because it won't be relevant. :3

[Catgirl Chipotle]

To the people who townread Silver Ravens, why?

[Catgirl Chipotle]

ALSO YO I CAN PLAY THIS PHASE INSTEAD OF BEING AFK WOOOOOOOO. I love ditching my hydra partner after complaining about it last game because of some dumb mech yeaaah

[Catgirl Chipotle]

its catgirl and prism + 1

n1 was hilariously poor, the 4 of you put almost no solve in

I'm amazed how many hours fireisred managed to metadive me and still get the wrong conclusion

spending three real life days being tunneled without answering was so annoying

Can I just say how ironic this is considering you openly said you're going to "not talk to any of your wolfreads and ignore them?" I'm not as sold as my hydra partner is on you being a wolf Gimli but when your reads change entirely overly irl days with barely any posts in-between in some instances to justify those flips it's odd. Then to have the confidence to go "My wolfreads are so correct that I'm going to ignore them!" Like, to me you have to be a wolf making this up or this is a new level of egotistical delusion that I haven't seen before.

Let's not forget if I remember correctly a lot of this was made during the first moon phase.

[Catgirl Chipotle]

Oh Ali is here hi Ali go to discord I need to ask you things weee

[Catgirl Chipotle]

Von the next person you should be picking for your hood is Prism btw

[Catgirl Chipotle]

How so?

You can use it aggressively on suspects.
You can use it on townie people to immortalize them.
Keeping you alive is just straight up dangerous.

The only way I think your role is a wolf role is either you place like some kind of special debuff on hood targets that they don't know or its sole purpose is to make you look townie.
I think your play in general is enough to make you town so the role basically makes you a threat.

[Catgirl Chipotle]

so we're back to aureal/catgirl/? which I think should be prism anyway

okay I can be in peace with this game now

You are narrative spinning if you think Aureal and I are partners.

[Catgirl Chipotle]

Aureal and Gimli are so SvS.

Their interactions during twilight are the most SvS thing ever lmao. They just staged a conversation and agreed to circlejerk each other there.

[Catgirl Chipotle]

Also is it dirty if I nigh-locktown AD just for finding that hider crumb first and sharing it lmao

he has incentive to bus here. I want to think this as well but if I was in F3 with them and someone that I have more definitive things to townread off of, I'm probably voting Dan.

[Catgirl Chipotle]

I think if Gimli is town, I would be the game on the team being {Kiri + Ydra + Aureal}

[Catgirl Chipotle]

I agree that Catgirl's last several pages are very hard to rationalize. The "high point" is the comment about Von Payne's role, but that was less of a point and more of a circle.

If we're confusing you, feel free to ask a question to either of us and we can clear the air however, both of us are mostly in agreeance read wise, we're just playing two very different roles.

[Catgirl Chipotle]

Drew you're here, good. Sit down we haven't got to speak much.

[Catgirl Chipotle]

Drew you're here, good. Sit down we haven't got to speak much.

*waves in Forrest Gump*

Howdy

Talk to me on what's the most pressing to you right now. Let me stop being a passenger princess in this hydra for a sec.

[Catgirl Chipotle]

Drew you're here, good. Sit down we haven't got to speak much.

*waves in Forrest Gump*

Howdy

Talk to me on what's the most pressing to you right now. Let me stop being a passenger princess in this hydra for a sec.

Well, if I will be able to resolve Gimli without flipping him

Why are you acting so favorable towards me

Am I blinded by previous times that I correctly read Aureal as town

Also hoping Black is around so we can discuss the dreams this Moonphase

And who exactly should we choose for The Von Payne Show season 2.......but your Prism idea is intriguing

1) Right now we don't plan on flipping them, we have a soft guilty and I think everyone knows that's where the day is gonna go.

2) Because your paranoia over wondering if my attempt to pocket you is town or scum makes me grin every time.

3) Yes. They're going over so sorry.

4) As much as I want to be apart of the show so I can yell and confuse you all the time I am also in favor of Prism.

[Catgirl Chipotle]

I forgot if Sun is pocketed enough by Alisae that I can just tell them to join us and they will. Let me test it.

Hey Sunflower, would you agree with our solve? Please?

[Catgirl Chipotle]

yes of course 100% anything you say queen

I didn't read anything else after this. Perfect. ^^

[Catgirl Chipotle]

Drew you're here, good. Sit down we haven't got to speak much.

*waves in Forrest Gump*

Howdy

Talk to me on what's the most pressing to you right now. Let me stop being a passenger princess in this hydra for a sec.

Well, if I will be able to resolve Gimli without flipping him

Why are you acting so favorable towards me

Am I blinded by previous times that I correctly read Aureal as town

Also hoping Black is around so we can discuss the dreams this Moonphase

And who exactly should we choose for The Von Payne Show season 2.......but your Prism idea is intriguing

1) Right now we don't plan on flipping them, we have a soft guilty and I think everyone knows that's where the day is gonna go.

2) Because your paranoia over wondering if my attempt to pocket you is town or scum makes me grin every time.

3) Yes. They're going over so sorry.

4) As much as I want to be apart of the show so I can yell and confuse you all the time I am also in favor of Prism.

Well at least you admit you are trying to pocket me haha

And I won't be so arrogant to act like an Aureal whisperer, if that is where the tide is blowing......and I trust the people enough that are pushing her, I won't die on that hill

Lol, I also thought it would be funny to just hood all the hydras.....so basically more people posting at night then during the day

Also, I wasn't suggesting Gimli should be the flip, just there will always be paranoia even up to the end.

But....soft guilty you say?

1) I am! And given how you're talking about our slot and to me I'm glad to see it's working. <3

2) It would be, although personally I already know how Alisae feels on the game and I think the entire thread does too it's mostly me that's a "ooOOooo" card. If you want to target us by all means but meh.

3) I think given how Gimli has played this game in a...I'll say odd manner to be polite, the paranoia is justified, I think their reads should be taken with a grain of salt considering it takes five seconds to see how little ground it stands on.

4) Dragon softed they hid behind Aureal and they're dead so uh, the world we live in is either: A) Dragon died hiding to Aureal scum B) Dragon hid behind Klick and died with Klick C) We're wrong on the soft.

[Catgirl Chipotle]

I forgot if Sun is pocketed enough by Alisae that I can just tell them to join us and they will. Let me test it.

Hey Sunflower, would you agree with our solve? Please?

DAHLIA HAWTHORNE OMGG

Greetings.

You're just as charming as my hydra partner said you were.

[Catgirl Chipotle]

1. I hate you maria.....lol

2. Oh don't worry, we have been focus grouping and there are big changes in store for The Von Payne Show season 2 that most of the players here should enjoy and appreciate.......we are always listening to our fans

3. I think my paranoia is that I have seen him be so so obv town, which I don't see here......but it is also in a small sample size(one game I believe)

4. Oh ya I get the Dragon thing, i thought you had a soft guilty lol

1) You adore me? Daw, Drew. Just say you missed me and wanted me to post more and I would've came running over!

2) I'm looking forward to it and I am also shocked you were not nk'd for having such a blatantly overpowered role. Keep grilling people and doing the hard work woo! Black too, you seem like someone on the good cop type.

3) I know Alisae thinks Gimli is just a wolf and so did I early however wolf Gimli does not win the game so I am not really concerned at the moment over other pressing matters that do worry me.

4) Maybe we do! Who knows, I love breadcrumbing as a PR.

[Catgirl Chipotle]

Gimli you know It's always a treat to see you post but I don't think a single word I say could convince you I'm not a wolf. So, I'm not gonna try to convince you.

I do look forward to seeing you try to push us though it's always entertaining. Goood luck~

[Catgirl Chipotle]

ActionDan
- Maria townread, go ask her about it.
- Pointing out the hide target does point towards them being town but its something a wolf could and should consider doing.

Gimli
- 1133 is bizarre enough to want to kill other things
- the conclusion I can therefore come to is wolf asset

Von Payne (Black/Doctor Drew hydra)
- fellow slide supporter
- very much so just doing their own thing
- op role

Prism
- has pretty much mostly been doing their own thing and doesn't seem like they're doing anything that is aimed towards a wolf gameplan.

Silver Ravens (GuyInFreezer/Dunnstral hydra)
- Maria Townread, go ask her about it
- Nothing they've done makes me think they could be suspect.

Sunflower (fireisredsir/JupiterXV hydra)
- to me when I see them post I just see obvtown

Aureal
- an outed wolf

Ydrasse
- Has been TMI'ing throughout the entire game.
- Reasons to townread are not as good as the reasons for everyone else. This is just an objective fact.
- Self-declared "Deepwolf"

Kyoko Kirigiri
- Interesting how Ydra has been TMI'ing Hu Tao as town while Kyoko is on the wagon w/ Aureal.
- Aside from that I don't rly got much of anything.

[Catgirl Chipotle]

I'm not in opposition to it but I still don't understand why I am the top candidate for the neighborhood. That is something I envision Alisae and Maria wanting for themselves, not for me.

I think you are a prime night kill target

[Catgirl Chipotle]

1295 will likely be my last post until Ydra or Kyoko flips town.

[Catgirl Chipotle]

Actually this will be my last post for awhile

Hu Tao

(7): Kyoko Kirigiri,

Von Payne, Catgirl Chipotle

,

Aureal

,

DragonEater70, Hu Tao, Gimli

Sunflower

(3):

Silver Ravens, ActionDan

, Ydrasse

Aureal

(1):

Klick
Gimli (1): Sunflower
Silver Ravens (1): Prism

2 wolves on wagon makes sense to me. Von Payne is inno. Gimli could be 3 but I'm only going back there once Ydra and/or Kyoko flip villager.
Ydra is TMI'ing through the entire game so it makes sense for her as a wolf to want to be offwagon.
The other vanity votes are likely things that are just coming from town in this gamestate.

idunno, I really think it just has to be Kyoko + Ydra + Aureal but if I color in our reads with that last votecount, we have something which is very much so just realistic.

[Catgirl Chipotle]

I am very confused as to why I am green, with my relative unimportance and independence to the game treated as a town tell. Not furthering a scum game plan is promising and true, but it's also abstract, and I can imagine casting myself in a few. I am trying to interrogate reads on me less, but putting me in green is very strong.

Back in 2020, Alisae believed my activity and energy levels were strongly indicative. I think that changed somewhere along the way, but it's unclear to me where or why. While there are deeper similarities, on the surface this game diverges heavily from the last time Alisae saw me play town in Anuket Topaz.

I have no memories of your play or how I read you back then (I only even remember playing like a game or two with you before 2020. I remember playing with you in 2017 but I just remember playing with you not what actually happened). I do not have an understanding of your meta other than you being competent at both alignments, I think this is not something I could figure out without just spamming games with you in them. I hardly even remember Topaz tbh. If anything, to me you're an enigma.

Once day 1 officially started and you were a few posts out of the gate, I felt like what I saw was enough to townbin you.

[Catgirl Chipotle]

Actually my most notable Prism memory is Prism telling 2017!me that wolves don't like to poke sleeping bears.

[Catgirl Chipotle]

ok now talk about ydrasse

[Catgirl Chipotle]

VOTE: Aureal
guys help me bus xD

[Catgirl Chipotle]

I for one am happy you and Drew got it

[Catgirl Chipotle]

VOTE: Ydrasse

[Catgirl Chipotle]

I am totally 100% with killing Ydra over Aureal but we should probably do Aureal today?

[Catgirl Chipotle]

Let's hear more about these correct conclusions you've reached

I mean I can tell you exactly what she's doing throughout the entire game.
It's very obvious to me that she's a wolf leveraging the fact she knows all of the answers.

[Catgirl Chipotle]

Sounds similar to how Swinger's went.

[Catgirl Chipotle]

why are we choosing to eliminate someone who is dubiously scummy over someone who is basically confirmed. wtmoo.

Wait what

I just got here how is Aureal confscum?

Dragon presumably hid behind her.
Don’t let that stop what ur doing tho, Ydra is probably mafia

[Catgirl Chipotle]

The solve is just Aureal + Kyoto + Ydrasse

[Catgirl Chipotle]

Ydra you are claiming this game
Why don’t we just get it over with?

[Catgirl Chipotle]

5 mins goes by and people are getting carried away

No one is getting carried away, we’re on a side quest. We can make time for it. We can always go back to Aureal

[Catgirl Chipotle]

If we think ydra reveals dreams, that does not make her town.

[Catgirl Chipotle]

If a wolf shot ydra I am widepeepohappy so I don’t mind what happens

[Catgirl Chipotle]

I’m bored now
VOTE: aureal

[Catgirl Chipotle]

ydrasse wins again
yeah sure white knight me

i’m going back to bed now

A short lived victory

[Catgirl Chipotle]

Nobody asked

[Catgirl Chipotle]

If we think ydra reveals dreams, that does not make her town.

Yet if von is neighborizing people at night that makes them auto town with your logic?

What's with the overly pointed tone? Just because you do not understand how someone goes from point A to point B doesn't=wolf and yet all you've tried to do is subtext a push of "your logic doesn't make sense to me so that makes you a wolf?"

Considering there was no reevaluation and what Hu Tao flipped. . .

[Catgirl Chipotle]

i feel like every mafia game i play people get worse at identifying what a wolf would actually do in a situation when they present a scumread

This is easily the funniest post in the thread and it's not even close tbh B)

[Catgirl Chipotle]

I think I'm prob gonna try and convince Alisae to vote off Kiri over Ydra because I can see Ydra being like this as a villager (because villagers normally have pity parties for themselves over wolves) where as I think Kiri's play just doesn't come from a villager half the time or at least, I don't remember this level of ego and it's seriously throwing me off.

[Catgirl Chipotle]

I still want a response to this.

I have no memories of your play or how I read you back then (I only even remember playing like a game or two with you before 2020. I remember playing with you in 2017 but I just remember playing with you not what actually happened). I do not have an understanding of your meta other than you being competent at both alignments, I think this is not something I could figure out without just spamming games with you in them. I hardly even remember Topaz tbh. If anything, to me you're an enigma.

Once day 1 officially started and you were a few posts out of the gate, I felt like what I saw was enough to townbin you.

I am struggling to understand how these paragraphs coalescence in your mind. The first paragraph says you don't understand my meta, but know I am competent at both alignments. I am an enigma and you're not sure you can figure it out how to read me. The second paragraph says you town binned me after a few good posts.

The first paragraphs is about you as an individual.
the second paragraph is about your content in the game.

[Catgirl Chipotle]

If we think ydra reveals dreams, that does not make her town.

Yet if von is neighborizing people at night that makes them auto town with your logic?

What's with the overly pointed tone? Just because you do not understand how someone goes from point A to point B doesn't=wolf and yet all you've tried to do is subtext a push of "your logic doesn't make sense to me so that makes you a wolf?"

Considering there was no reevaluation and what Hu Tao flipped. . .

There was literally no pointed tone - just a genuine question and point of comparison.

I just find it in paradox to get such conclusion for a public neighborizing role so immediately and consider what ydresse claimed and how he did it suspiciously. I was simply questioning the logic here. would you mind to elaborate your logic to me if one exists?

also what does this has to do with hu tao? cause I was wrong there I shouldnt question anything else?

I'm not the one in the hydra who made the statement regarding ydra because our reads somewhat differ on the slot but I was just confused because it seems the main crux or issue you have is how the logic of my hydra partners statements do not add up or you're having trouble understanding things.

That's perfectly fine, but I fail to see where that ends up being in a wolfread and is why I brought up you being wrong on Hu Tao because it feels by your own logic we should be wolfreading you for it.

Along with the fact I do not think we can simply just look at Von's role and ydra's obvious soft and call it a side by side comparison but I'll let my hydra partner speak on that matter.

[Catgirl Chipotle]

I think I'm prob gonna try and convince Alisae to vote off Kiri over Ydra because I can see Ydra being like this as a villager (because villagers normally have pity parties for themselves over wolves) where as I think Kiri's play just doesn't come from a villager half the time or at least, I don't remember this level of ego and it's seriously throwing me off.

also regarding this

I'm not sure what implies ego in my gameplay, but if by any chance its a genuine thought and not just you as scum trying to get away from my legit question with this emotional fightback, I apologize for any "ego" in my play.

However, I'm just not feeling it as a real thought in any universe, and this even makes me suspicious more of what's going on in your slot. so there is that

pedit: what was your read on von's role and why?

I am probably just reading tone incorrectly and taking what is mostly blunt and sharp words as ego so that's more my bad than anything else no apology is required sorry if I made you feel bad.

I think the trouble I am having most is you can put the statement "this is not a real thought" behind literality any post it is a buzz word and statement that we cannot defend against because it's a matter of opinion not fact. So how am I supposed to get a read on you or help develop the one on us if half the logic is "you don't have this thought" have you played with alisae or me enough to have the confidence to say "you don't think like this."

I don't think it's that because it's the only way I can understand it. Because if the logic is "A townie doesn't think like this" you and I both know mafia is not so black and white.

My personal read on Von itself is that they're a villager. My read on the role is it's objectively really good because you can have isolated conversations and thoughts in the thread. It's a town role but there's no reason to say you cannot give it to mafia because of how townie it is. If I wasn't townreading Von so hard I'd be questioning it.

[Catgirl Chipotle]

I can understand different hydra partners getting different thoughts but I thought the read list ali posted was summary of both heads thoughts as it was portrayed as such

No, Alisae's thoughts are Alisae's thoughts not my own. Obviously, my reads are a tad influenced by Alisae because I want to trust my hydra partner when they're going "I SWEAR THEY ARE SCUM" But my own reads do differ it is not a combined list.

[Catgirl Chipotle]

(Honestly not signing posts was really funny to see how many people confuse my posts for ali's and vice versa but the slight headache almost makes me regret it.)

[Catgirl Chipotle]

That's a name that brings me back, good times.

[Catgirl Chipotle]

Alisae already had town and wolfreads on Von/Ydra respectively. The action's Von has taken reads townie where as Ydra wasn't. The role's weren't the issue but it more cemented an already pre-existing thought.

[Catgirl Chipotle]

why are you town ready von so hard - regardless of what we know of their role? can you get deeper with that read

One of the main things I like most about Von is the way they play around us is what I expect from Drew after just I just fake tunneled them as wolf all game.

They don't read like they're using their role to try and gain town points but to have fun with it while still playing the game. Nothing they've posted has ever pinged me once from either of the hydra heads. There's more, but explaining has always been a weakpoint to me. What are they doing that I should be seeing but aren't?

[Catgirl Chipotle]

you mean neighborizing sunflower? you think it made more sense to have them over night than other slots in game?

also is there any reason to town read them for you beside their role/action as I asked or is it just based on ali's read and and role for you?

I was paraphrasing ali because I told them to not show up in the thread due to needing a break but I sent your question over. I don't think action means role action but actions taken in the game.

I can relook at Von once more if needed but if you could go "hey Maria you're missing this" that'd be nice.

[Catgirl Chipotle]

I hope we have time to flip everyone we need to flip in order to win this

You and me both brother

[Catgirl Chipotle]

Im gonna repost these two which are good points in game to go back and reread context of. I wanna know what you think of their reads/progression on hu and aureal mainly

I can see the aureal post as an awkward point of interaction with a partner if I read it under the lens you're suggesting, I get what you're saying. With Hu, the other wagon who was in danger was mostly aureal, to "agree" so fast like you put it mm, if the reads they've given is true I don't see how it's an issue?

[Catgirl Chipotle]

also if von payne is a townie they need to wake up and start solving and paying attention to the game. not knowing the implications we have on aureal means black just isn't even reading the game at all.

Don't you think a scum partner would get the fact that their partner has a soft guilty on them?

[Catgirl Chipotle]

also if von payne is a townie they need to wake up and start solving and paying attention to the game. not knowing the implications we have on aureal means black just isn't even reading the game at all.

Don't you think a scum partner would get the fact that their partner has a soft guilty on them?

yes, that's the problem I have with my solve rn, which may point to sunflower or prism instead.

Shouldn't you start looking at worlds when we're a villager? It doesn't hurt considering you are so locked on us being a wolf that looking at worlds with us being a villager can prepare you in advance.

I'm saying this more for your sake than our own but if you want to ignore the advice feel free.

[Catgirl Chipotle]

I imagine scum have some hidden rolecop type thing that reveals dreams to the scum pt because I cannot think of any other scum role you'd put in this.

Maybe a dream revealer so you can discard a dream but idk how you'd make that work. It's not really something I'm concerned about atm. Maybe they get power if they kill the dreamer? meh

[Catgirl Chipotle]

My spicy read is I think X is either dreamer or a wolf but I don't need to worry about that until tomorrow.

[Catgirl Chipotle]

Im not sure if we can guesswork this. I have few ideas of how scum can have roles related to dreams. from enforcing them to various types of manipulations.

Not really sure what I think about sunflowers question/slip(?) thingy at all

mariar dont miss my last page post when you have time please

I gave a short answer on this page but I'll probably give a longer one later today after I iso Von's day 1. Assuming we do not tunnel Aureal out of the game. Different question though, why are we awaiting a claim? Like, is there a claim they could make that would make the thread pause and go "hang on?" (Don't answer that obviously) because if they're a wolf they might claim something convenient so I don't get what makes people want to wait.

(I was mostly checked out because when I saw the sheep thing I had to make Alisae stop me from not touching the thread due to how trash that is.)

[Catgirl Chipotle]

Shouldn't you start looking at worlds when we're a villager? It doesn't hurt considering you are so locked on us being a wolf that looking at worlds with us being a villager can prepare you in advance.

I'm saying this more for your sake than our own but if you want to ignore the advice feel free.

I think I'm past the point, I'm just convinced you're scum. to even entertain the possibility of different worlds gave me a bit of a headache lol. it's just not gonna happen with me at least.

How unfortunate. . .

[Catgirl Chipotle]

Shouldn't you start looking at worlds when we're a villager? It doesn't hurt considering you are so locked on us being a wolf that looking at worlds with us being a villager can prepare you in advance.

I'm saying this more for your sake than our own but if you want to ignore the advice feel free.

I think I'm past the point, I'm just convinced you're scum. to even entertain the possibility of different worlds gave me a bit of a headache lol. it's just not gonna happen with me at least.

you were convinced both of us individually were wolves here and look what happened

[Catgirl Chipotle]

Enchant's pretty good at towntelling

[Catgirl Chipotle]

Aureal + Kyoko + 1 more

[Catgirl Chipotle]

What was your dream votes?

I voted for the slide day 1 and nothing else.
I forgot to vote for anything day 2.
Maria doesn't care enough to vote and I'll start caring when it matters.

[Catgirl Chipotle]

why would you think I vote for dreams?

[Catgirl Chipotle]

don't answer that I don't actually care about the answer it's rhetorical.

[Catgirl Chipotle]

FA, I will write you one post.
When you write 1000+ posts for a wolf game and you try your damnest, but you lose because 1 shitty replacement and terrible decisions that I made, that changes a person. As a result, I now care less about the result. This is honestly probably for the better tbh. If anything, it feels more free to not have to care about the result. This doesn't mean I'm not interested in winning, I'm just not going to let the game consume me anymore. I have other more important things I need to be/want to be doing. I have more things to look forward to as well. We should hydra sometime for a game on MS cuz there aren't really any hydra games that pop-up often and it would be a great excuse to spend time w/ each other.
I am a much lazier player now. I'm especially lazy when I am in a hydra. I work well w/ Maria and I'm enjoying myself. I believe I have gotten to the point where I rely on intuition to get me through over analyzing. I feel like I just do what normally works, and well, it normally works? I'm actually looking to conclude a game where the takeaway from my play is "something is wrong, something is not working" but I don't think I've ran into that yet with my townplay. Stuck on wolfplay tho! I think i figured something out but I still need proper testing. I've even explored playing a couple games on MU, it was quite refreshing playing with a bunch of people I didn't know and leaving a positive impression on most. I also even got my butt kicked in a game!
I'll post as much as I feel I need to in the moment. Sometimes that can be a little, sometimes that can be a lot. I work smarter not harder and I'm energy efficient. I take my time because where I truly shine is in late game situations.
I'm not really enthusiastic to be here right now which is why I am trying to limit how much I feel like I actually need to post. Gimli kind of sucked that out of me. It is what it is.
I appreciate your understanding and cooperation.

Enchant is confidently town.
Ydrasse bores me
Von Payne is obviously town
Prism reads town to me
I'm not really interested in reads on any of these products or services.

Aureal is confwolf
You're lockwolf for me. Nothing will change that. I'm not interested in changing my mind, I'm not interesting in engaging much, give you an inch and you'll take a mile. I don't believe this game makes sense for you to be a villager here. Sorry! If you want to try to appeal to me, immediately treat me as town in your reads and solve from there.

Sunflower to me should be obvtown but apparently Silver Ravens thinks they're a wolf.
Silver Ravens I like on a gut level and Maria likes
Dan is someone Maria likes and personally I don't take him for the bussing type of person but who knows. I'm not sure Dan would make it on bussing alone anyway.

good luck

[Catgirl Chipotle]

I have a theory on what it could be but I'll wait.

[Catgirl Chipotle]

There goes my theory.

[Catgirl Chipotle]

What is this, a therapy group

[Catgirl Chipotle]

THERE'S NO WAY YOU DID THIS TO ME DREW

[Catgirl Chipotle]

Naaa bro what the fk is this now I have to keep playing the game this is so bad

[Catgirl Chipotle]

Naaa bro what the fk is this now I have to keep playing the game this is so bad

A full week of playing the game in fact

We have plenty of whiskey and hor dourves to last us

I haven't drank for a good 6 months we're changing that this week.

[Catgirl Chipotle]

Anyway, what game related stuff do you want to know? Alisae is set Kiri is a wolf.

[Catgirl Chipotle]

How do you feel about Kiri?

Me personally? I don't hate the way she's solving, I see spots of her gameplay that can be townie but given where my hydra partner is at the point part of me doesn't really want to go against it.

[Catgirl Chipotle]

Anyway, what game related stuff do you want to know? Alisae is set Kiri is a wolf.

Also you two, or maybe just Ali, seem to be hard town reading us. It is just a strong vibe read, or something more than that.

I just enjoy fucking with you and think you've had decent posts Alisae just think's your role and the actions you've taken are broken so it's townie

[Catgirl Chipotle]

Oh wait I forgot some people think we're SvS

YOOOO SCUM THEATRE LET'S GO

[Catgirl Chipotle]

I'm considering doing absolutely nothing this Night phase out of spite

*Hug*

Honestly if it makes your mental state go for it I say. Mafia is supposed to be fun and if you need a little break from the thread to refresh yourself I say go for it.

[Catgirl Chipotle]

Try to sell me on it

[Catgirl Chipotle]

I mean Kyoto is next then it’s just 1 of sunflower, Dan, silver

[Catgirl Chipotle]

I don’t see how we lose this game
Enchant is town
Prism town
Von Payne town
Ydra probs town
I’m town

[Catgirl Chipotle]

Like to me this is auto lol

[Catgirl Chipotle]

I think the last one might be sunflower btw

[Catgirl Chipotle]

That’s just what immediately makes sense to me

[Catgirl Chipotle]

Ya so I’m not going to do that…

[Catgirl Chipotle]

Daily reminder that there are 2 Wolves on Hu Tao. If it wasn't Hu Tao, it was Aureal. Gimli/Enchant town. Von Payne town. I'm town. Kyoko just objectively makes the most sense to be a wolf in this game. Everything they're doing screams wolf. They're the elimination tomorrow btw.

[Catgirl Chipotle]

You are likely the last mafia member

[Catgirl Chipotle]

positionally that's just what makes sense.
sorry not sorry

[Catgirl Chipotle]

because I say so

[Catgirl Chipotle]

I'm not interested in Silver or Dan

[Catgirl Chipotle]

because I say so

why do you think anyone will listen to you without explanation

Yes

[Catgirl Chipotle]

Because I have the best reads and this phase of the game is what I'm good at.

[Catgirl Chipotle]

Winners win and losers lose it is what it is

[Catgirl Chipotle]

i don't believe that you would clear them here

you wanna fight me?

[Catgirl Chipotle]

you wanna see how that'll turn out?

[Catgirl Chipotle]

Because I have the best reads and this phase of the game is what I'm good at.

do you think people are going to take for granted that you're town then?

Yes

[Catgirl Chipotle]

ok
first get votes me when day starts.
good luck brother

[Catgirl Chipotle]

I don't have to exert energy or try super hard to win this game.
My reads are rock solid.
You can kill me but you won't because you and Kyoko need me as an elimination.

[Catgirl Chipotle]

I don't have to exert energy or try super hard to win this game.
My reads are rock solid.
You can kill me but you won't because you and Kyoko need me as an elimination.

im not scum i just wanna talk to you

I don't wanna talk to you. I want your head

[Catgirl Chipotle]

I don't have to exert energy or try super hard to win this game.
My reads are rock solid.
You can kill me but you won't because you and Kyoko need me as an elimination.

im not scum i just wanna talk to you

I don't wanna talk to you. I want your head

Hey hey, we are all friends here at The Von Payne show

Save the murder for the day time lol

you're my doublevoter

[Catgirl Chipotle]

I don't have to exert energy or try super hard to win this game.
My reads are rock solid.
You can kill me but you won't because you and Kyoko need me as an elimination.

im not scum i just wanna talk to you

I don't wanna talk to you. I want your head

Hey hey, we are all friends here at The Von Payne show

Save the murder for the day time lol

you're my doublevoter

Lol, not for Sunflower

For Kyoko

[Catgirl Chipotle]

I don't have to exert energy or try super hard to win this game.
My reads are rock solid.
You can kill me but you won't because you and Kyoko need me as an elimination.

im not scum i just wanna talk to you

I don't wanna talk to you. I want your head

Also, why are you so hardcore think they are scum?

Enchant is town and there's evidence to point to gimli being town.
You're town
I'm town
Kyoko wolf
that's the Hu Tao wagon

Prism I feel like is town.
Silver Ravens is probably town.
ActionDan is probably town.

So therefore Sunflower must be a wolf.
There it is.

[Catgirl Chipotle]

Winners win
Losers lose

[Catgirl Chipotle]

I want to remind you that Frozen Angel, aka, Kyoko, only tryhards and pulls out all of the stops when her team, or herself, is in danger.
What do you think that Hu Tao case was?
If she didn't do something, well you have a cw on Sunflower, you have people willing to go to Aureal whenever they want. There could have realistically been a wolf elimination during that day.

[Catgirl Chipotle]

Also Ydrasse is town as well she bores me

[Catgirl Chipotle]

i don't know why "feel like" is enough for you for prism

I've been calling Prism town all game

[Catgirl Chipotle]

I would like to add that I think most sunflower wolfreads came from town!

[Catgirl Chipotle]

like you are wrong or scum so

i don't believe your reads as town are infallible so i don't think you're guaranteed scum

i think acting 100% confident while also not actually locking in your reads and leaving room with "probably" and "feels like" actually seems more like stubborn town bc if you're scum then you don't have any reason to leave that vulnerability which can be pried open

but i think that if you are town then the only way people can actually find that is if you talk about those feels likes and probablys because i know you're wrong on us which means you're wrongly clearing someone else

I have the game solved lol

[Catgirl Chipotle]

like you are wrong or scum so

i don't believe your reads as town are infallible so i don't think you're guaranteed scum

i think acting 100% confident while also not actually locking in your reads and leaving room with "probably" and "feels like" actually seems more like stubborn town bc if you're scum then you don't have any reason to leave that vulnerability which can be pried open

but i think that if you are town then the only way people can actually find that is if you talk about those feels likes and probablys because i know you're wrong on us which means you're wrongly clearing someone else

I have the game solved lol

your solve is wrong

Just be lucky you're not on the immediate list of things to kill.

[Catgirl Chipotle]

getting me to townread you

[Catgirl Chipotle]

I'll consider you town if you are proven to be town via reporter shot after kyoko's wolf elimination.

[Catgirl Chipotle]

Also if the reporter shot is used before Kyoko's wolf flip, kill the reporter