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this is towny self-awareIn post 20, Lucian wrote:Bold claim. Klick can be Town, I don't think scum's first idea is to attack me for being too friendly when most of my 3 existing posts are criticizing someo-
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can you elaborate on this? maybe it's because we always used to try to squeeze as much info as possible out of rvs, but this actually seems quite genuine to me.In post 29, Klick wrote:Infinity 324 wrote:why is lucian awkward?
VOTE: hiraki
This doesn't feel natural to me at all.In post 17, Lucian wrote:Welp. I thought the banter in 12 was between friends or acquaintances, but if not, then it gives a weird pockety, overly-friendly vibe.
froggo is hitting a lot of "awkward scum in the early game" pings.
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fine it was a throwaway vote. i don't like rvs and thought it might give some reactions but we're past that now
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VOTE: froggoIn post 34, froggodoggo wrote:
i couldn't give you a number but like, a lot. i think all of these "scum pings" just come from me not being used to forum and not knowing anyone here. lemme breatheIn post 32, Lucian wrote:"Taking obvious jokey seriously" now, too.
froggo, how much mafia experience do you have?-
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the whole "i'm new and i'm flustered because i'm being pressured" is >rand scum.In post 93, froggodoggo wrote:Infinity why did ur slot vote me earlier. i don't want to let that go unexplained.
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you were a little closed to engagement in a way that seemed +scum to us. early game i'd expect town to want to engage; e.g. "here's why i think lucian here is scummy rather than overeager town" or just "i think being overexplaining in that way is +scum early on"
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there are a bunch of them. one is just ignoring it, another (like you're doing now) is when it pushes you to scumhunt more. some town will get frustrated.In post 110, froggodoggo wrote:what is the >rand town reaction to being pressured early d1-
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In post 115, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Because the town reads were based on weak sauce.
Reeks of TMI, you know?
eheh with this and your sig i can't tell we're not gonna get alongIn post 116, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:It's also a very LAMIST approach
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maybe honestly i never know what to do with my vote. i could vote gamma but what's the point, we'll 95% be able to read him correctly later anywayIn post 127, froggodoggo wrote:I like infinity's page 5. feels very calm and collected and chill and other words. Infinity could i interest you in voting Gamma with me or would you prefer to stay on Klick?
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zz i used to do this exact same thing as townIn post 159, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Even if I agree with that premise, I still think that throwing out that town read was scummy.
It was done in a LAMIST attempt. You did this with 2(?) further stating of town reads as well. I noticed a lack of scum reads, which is really where town shine through.
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haha i don't remember this but it's funny if trueIn post 222, Gamma Emerald wrote:They just don’t seem to get along
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why?In post 405, Gamma Emerald wrote:This doesn’t make me feel any more confident furtive is scum but it does make me think Dunn is town-
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yeah i've used this to tr gamma forever so i approveIn post 433, Lucian wrote:I'm thinking Gamma is likely to be Town here. Her argument with Dunn feels like she's thinking about it behind the scenes, but the fact she's not really explaining what's going on in her head make it more likely to be genuine solving rather than just for show.
next time be less towny before you do this though because i gained no townreads from this
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to be honest i never loved the vote, but it's the system's consensus favorite wagon. aisa is an ok vote too but nothing she's done is scummy i think? idk people kinda just need to do stuffIn post 436, Lucian wrote:Infinity, do you still like your CSF vote?-
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unsure if it it's just a playstyle thing but this is my feeling as well. it feels pretty nitpicky and a bit lamistIn post 507, furtiveglance wrote:I'm not sure why BBT is declining to share his thoughts about the Enchant/CSF wagons - the most likely eliminations. It's partly why I'm scumreading him, but also his interactions with froggo look like scum grilling town to me.
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i mean after the past few pages i still don't have more than a slight scumlean on BBT. still prefer csf to be honest. i guess furtive is towny for agreeing with me there (also i don't really see a reason for scum to be starting a big fight here? maybe if like enchant is a buddy. idk)-
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we unvoted them when the wagon fell apart. i feel like it's important to have our vote on a wagon at this point in the dayIn post 581, furtiveglance wrote:Do you mean 'prefer' eliminating CSF? Because you unvoted them.-
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yeah i wasn't all the way caught up when i posted thatIn post 587, Lucian wrote:So giving this criticism after that happened feels off.-
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gamma why do you like csf?
furtive feels towny to me tbh. i'm still not sure why he pushes BBT there so hard as scum.
not really into the enchant lim, the "think before i vote" thing is kinda meaningless to me and limming a contentless slot on d1 doesn't seem great. i'll vote there at deadline obviously though-
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enchant needs to die and i think a night phase would help me get more engaged regardless
i need to review what gamma said about csf
also i need to see if i need to review my furtive read. vibes feel very towny but a systemmate is telling me that an enchant red flip would make furtive look bad
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i'll do them in the night phaseIn post 882, Gamma Emerald wrote:do you want to have day go on so you can finish those reviews or can they be done in the night phase?-
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claim is really scummy and it's pretty difficult to actually resolve with massclaim because there could be 0 or 2 doctors.In post 896, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
What specifically made you think Enchant needs death?In post 855, Infinity 324 wrote:enchant needs to die and i think a night phase would help me get more engaged regardless-
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this is probably not super relevant now, because i attribute a lot of the pressure on enchant to csf, but i promised to do it so
by play i really don't feel she's very towny even after looking over terminator. like i just don't agree that she was putting that much effort into looking town this game.-
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i feel like furtive looks worse than bbt from this, because furtive started pushing bbt first. after looking over the interaction again, bbt's response feels pretty towny omgus.In post 921, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:Enchant scumflip makes BBT scum more likely imo, since this BBT post detracted from the Enchant wagon at the time.-
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agreed with this basically. idk maybe there's some weird offsite thing that's screwing with my read but i feel very confident froggo is town on play.In post 922, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:I still think Froggo is town. He seems to be posting whatever thoughts pop up into his head without a filter, so his thought process, while messy, does ring as genuine.-
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like is scum really that open about this?In post 930, froggodoggo wrote:Thought I'd have a lot more heat coming in to this day and it has been in the back of my head how I will defend myself.-
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interested to hear your reasoning if appropriateIn post 931, froggodoggo wrote:No no I'm pretty sure this kill was made by mafia lol-
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why?In post 962, Aisa wrote:I think furtive is probably town-
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not klick but gamma always shows his thought process without being too blunt about it--he's town without trying to look town. i've never seen him fake it as scum, so i'm pretty confident he's just town hereIn post 997, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Talk about Gamma being obvtown Klick?-
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i explained this already right? doc claim was obviously awful and needed to be resolved at some point, and massclaim doesn't necessarily help. like if there's no other doc claim do we leave enchant alive?In post 1005, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Explanation for this read progression on Enchant would be good-
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at the time i was a bit worried about the deadline and felt like the csf vote wasn't really going anywhere. figured i would try to start a wagon on someone who i felt hadn't really towntoldIn post 1016, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:
Talk about this please Infinity.In post 462, Infinity 324 wrote:aisa is somewhat towny
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i don't think csf is really getting townier but we can go here-
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-_- do you really think you've been towny enough to say thisIn post 1024, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:Although based on that wagon on me that got to e-2, I'd be willing to hop on infinity-
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yeah like i said i'm liking furtive a lot less. i'll have to check in with the rest of the system because i remember someone saying they got townvibes, but they seem like a pretty reasonable enchant partner.In post 1028, Aisa wrote:any thoughts on furtive after the night phase?-
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haha i like thisIn post 1031, Lucian wrote:I have a very dumb reason to think Dunn is Townie. He said how nobody called out the fact Enchant was different than in Terminator beforehand, right? I feel like an Enchant scumbuddy would know that was called out, and this seems like something very weird to fake. I dunno.-
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i've been hyperfocused on other stuff lately (i think it's cause of adhd meds) but fair.In post 1054, Lucian wrote:I think I dislike 1035. Two things have been asked of Infinity, to do their re-eval and to explain their progression on Enchant. The first one takes time, but the second one shouldn't. So I'd kind of expect town!Infinity to say why they changed their mind on Enchant at least, while scum!Infinity is more likely to go "yeah sorry getting to this game tomorrow".
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i thought it would be later on too but /shrug, gamma wasn't being towny and i thought she would continue not to be townyIn post 1066, froggodoggo wrote:and then later comes wayyyy too soon for my taste, personally I imagined a day phase or two before the read would be made
pedit: why does that post ever come from town
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i mean not really? "you voted me and i'm town therefore you're scummy" isn't really an argumentIn post 1124, froggodoggo wrote:huh?? if someone knows they are town that is enough reason to say anything.-
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no, that would've been a hell of an aggressive busIn post 1136, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:Infinity, are you scumreading me?-
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i guess, it's just frustrating to get wagoned for things i can't really control. like maybe i should've been more convinced by the "need to think" thing, it just felt like such a small thing to me and limming someone who has like 3 posts on d1 i just don't feel is a great idea.In post 1137, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:You were one of the people who stayed away from the Enchant wagon and only voiced support for his lim after it was basically a foregone conclusion-
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ok i'm not going to not make a post because it looks convenient if I'm scum what do you want from meIn post 1144, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Like, you knew Enchant was flipping red and dropped in that you need to reevaluate your Furtive read because he looks bad if scum Enchant. It all looks way too convenient.-
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this is just playing mafia, a wagon you like isn't getting traction so you switch to another that you think mightIn post 1145, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:
You were worried about the deadline? So you left a wagon/push with 3 votes on it (even though your read hadn't changed) to start pushing a brand new wagon (you were the first vote) because you were worried about the deadline?In post 1108, Infinity 324 wrote: at the time i was a bit worried about the deadline and felt like the csf vote wasn't really going anywhere. figured i would try to start a wagon on someone who i felt hadn't really towntold
Explain how that makes sense.