He used to do it for lolz, but I haven't seen him do that in while.In post 25, havingfitz wrote:Would Not_Mafia lolhammer someone he wasn't scum-reading?
Also,
VOTE: Havingfitz
In revenge of shooting Moz
He used to do it for lolz, but I haven't seen him do that in while.In post 25, havingfitz wrote:Would Not_Mafia lolhammer someone he wasn't scum-reading?
I agree sauce has been kinda skating by but who isn't at this point? I don't anyone (including myself) has done anything that I could point out ans say: "Oh! That's Townie enough.", which is giving me pause.In post 61, mutantdevle wrote:Probably Sauce. Their posts feel distracting and don't really contribute anything despite having the second most posts so far. Though I guess that's kinda hypocritical of me since I haven't really done anything yet. I had to re-read the entire thread to reach that conclusion though. The re-read has probably made me more interested in the game so I should be posting better quality now.In post 60, Almost50 wrote:@mutant: Gun to your head; where would you vote?
Sadly for Elmo, that means potential walls
LOL! Should I sheep this? (Note: Not really. I don't see anything scummy coming from Raya yet, but your performance in the last couple of games we played together makes me think you might've noticed something I didn't).
Do I know you?! Because I only sheep players I have played with before (and yet NOT everyone I played with is worth sheeping).
Elmo is a vote magnet. I see people voting there all the time (I hope my memory isn't playing tricks on me and that it IS Elmo that seemed to attract inexplicable votes in previous games).In post 67, Mathdino wrote:Her Elmo wagon is shit,
So, Bins and Raya for you. At least we are starting to get some reads.In post 67, Mathdino wrote:Alternatively, if you vote Raya I'll sheep you on that.
What can't you believe? It is true. The SK is allied with the Town until further notice regardless of which option they picked to be immune to. It's basic SK play.In post 109, Elmo TeH AzN wrote:.....In post 108, mutantdevle wrote:If the SK is our only way of switching the mafia PRs so that they don't work then surely we need the SK alive? Both town and the SK need the scum dead in order to win the game. Mafia obviously wins if they gain majority so the SK would want the scum dead first. So not only does the SK's switch abilities help us, but we also share the common objective of wanting to eliminate the mafia.
The way I see it, the SK is an ally of town that will eventually betray us. If the SK was ever at L-1 and roleclaimed, then I think we should keep them alive. If that turns out to be a mafia fake claiming then the SK will know and just kill them at night. If a townie ever fakeclaims SK just to keep themselves alive, then they are an anti-town piece of shit. And then obviously if we do get a SK role claim, we can just lynch them when the mafia is eliminated.
I really cant believe this.
VOTE: Mutantdevle
Every night. Check the setup wiki.In post 117, Bins wrote:I'm still confused because it hasn't been fully clarified but does this mean three in total or three a night???
I wish I could say the same about you, but -at least- I'm confident you're not the SK. If we by chance flip all 3 Mafia players and you're still alive you are a confirmed Townie to me (and this should be noted by each and every Townie for later reference).In post 118, Bins wrote:I'm liking Almost for town, lmfao. The jab at me was pretty confirming of that.
The holidays made the whole game stale. I have nothing new to go by.In post 176, Chip Butty wrote:My vote on havingfitz is probably a bit stale. Will reread and review...
I don't know mutant from before, so I can't tell if he's a ML or not. I just TR his play so far.In post 200, Mathdino wrote:Give me reads. Has your read on Raya evolved at all? Thoughts on Maxous? I assume you agree mutant is another ML bait like Elmo?
All was going well until I read ^this^In post 239, Sauce wrote:Do you have a townread on me, because if not I will vote you.
This rubbed me the wrong way. In my mind, the Town thought process goes like "I was TRing X for saying that, but them saying this feels scummy". They don't go "I'm TRing X, but now they've dropped to null, but I still don't see the case on them, but I'm willing to vote them because when I said null just 4 minutes ago I didn't know they were actually this low on my read list". This feels like scum trying to find a smooth transition from a stated TR to casting a vote on the subject.In post 245, Bins wrote:I'm going to be fine voting any of the bottom four because I've POE'd it to those. Realized Raya is a little lower because my townreads at this point are pretty strong.
However, this doesn't go with the above (i.e. doesn't feel like it could come from scum) because Bins herself was the target of much scrutiny for precisely this .. SK hunting. If Bins is scum she's practically begging the SK to shoot her, and -in the case she flips scum- doesn't even help her case on anyone, since no one would be looking over her ISO to see who she scum read.In post 247, Bins wrote:My top pick for SK right now is Chip. He's playing exactly how I'd imagine a lurky SK would play. His reads felt VERY fake. Other than that I can't really distinguish lazy town/scum.
Excuse me, but what does this even mean? Do you think the guilty on her is a gambit? Or are you explicitly SRing Mathdino??In post 316, Maxous wrote:Tell you what, if Bins flips scum feel free to give me shit.
Until then, I don't care
LOOOOOOOL. That wasn't meant to be a way out for you. Ir was in response to Max' conditional thing "IF Bins flips Scum", and if you read it carefully you would have understood I was saying I 100% believe Mathdino.In post 321, Bins wrote:I fucking hate gambits and Mathdino is totally the type to pull this as town so that’s even more frustrating. I’m not scum and you can tell he’s lying because he specifies I’m not SK but Cop doesn’t even get results that way. I’m not doubting he’s cop (because that would be even more stupid to drag CC) but he’s faking a guilty for his dumb scumteam.
Skimming much? I said you were either TownIn post 330, Bins wrote:I was having fun and excited everyone was convinced I wasn't SK ahah
Very cute. Just when I was thinking you might be town after all!
How confident are you on this (let me remind you that you tunneled precisely the SK + 1 Townie in Donner Party, and while I don't mind you tunneling scum of any kind I don't think we have the luxury of tunneling Town in this game)In post 359, Not_Mafia wrote:Bins is Mafia and so is Raya
Actually it goes much deeper than that. THERE IS NO SCUM HERE AND THIS ISN'T EVEN A MAFIA GAME! You, Sir, have been had. SMILE... you're on Candid Camera!In post 390, mutantdevle wrote:I'm actually so damn confused I might cry...
Next y'all be telling me Bins isn't even the SK...
Yes, and we're letting them both live and lynching Bins.In post 392, Chip Butty wrote:So we have a 1v1 b/w MD and NM?
In post 484, mutantdevle wrote:Should we try to figure out whether it was the mafia or the vig that killed Lalendra or Raya or do y'all think it would be a waste of time?
I don't like these two quotes. First, mutant appears to be sure the SK shot the Cop (means the SK in immune to Mafia shots and not Town action). Then he realizes his slip and corrects it in the second quote stating the SK shot Lalendra which directly contradicts his first "assumption".In post 489, mutantdevle wrote:Probably yeah. So the SK killed Lalendra. The kill could be random but I'd assume the SK would kill based on who they felt most threatened by.In post 486, Not_Mafia wrote:Vig killed Raya, it's obvious
This all looks good .. UNTIL we get to Lalendra. If the Mafia shot the Cop and the SK shot Raya then the Vig shot Lalendra, and I don't see a Town Vig shooting Lalendra over most anyone else.In post 524, Sauce wrote:Since the Mafia didn't know whether the SK was NK or cop/vig immune, they must've felt compelled to shoot the cop. A clever SK, regardless of chosen immunity, would've known this, and would've felt free to dispose of threats.
Raya was actively contributing to the game, and flipped scum had voted her, so a clever SK would've anticipated that Raya would not have been in today's lynching pool.
Who benefits the most from Raya's death?
The problem is I don't have the luxury of trusting anyone anymore. Things could/would have been much better if another Mafia or the SK were shot last night.In post 526, mutantdevle wrote:I guess you're just going to have to trust me on that.
This is also a Town loss as both scum sides would be able to kill. We would need all the luck in the world for us to come up winners in this situation.In post 530, Chip Butty wrote:3. 5-1-1. Wcs: 3 town deaths = 2-1-1.
Since he tried to provide some cover for Mathdino after the latter hard claimed Cop.
You're reading but you're not paying attention, are you?In post 535, Sauce wrote:It's not in the interest of town to propagate the discussion Almost50 has been busy inciting.Is this going to amount in scumhunting soon or will it linger on as vig hunting?In post 527, Almost50 wrote:This all looks good .. UNTIL we get to Lalendra. If the Mafia shot the Cop and the SK shot Raya then the Vig shot Lalendra, and I don't see a Town Vig shooting Lalendra over most anyone else.
In post 547, Sauce wrote:I gave you no reason to doubt my comprehension.
'nough said.In post 535, Sauce wrote:Is this going toamount in scumhunting soonor will it linger on as vig hunting?
his reminds me that Chip kept seesawing Bins until it was apparent she was the lynch and only then did he join the wagon. Bins kept FoSing Chip but never made a serious push on him.In post 551, momo wrote:Guys, the way Chip Butty and MD manipulated yesterday's lynch just makes me believe they are scum together
the way things are going
VOTE: Chip Butty
The thing is I have a short memory, so I keep track of my reads, remarks and VCs in a Word file, and when I went to switch momo's vote to Chip I find no momo there. I thought I might've deleted him by mistake or opened and older version, so I checked the opening post and the players list had no momo either, so I checked the activity view and those were his only 2 posts in this game. I think momo is mutant maybe?? It might be helpful to know who momo is in this game, I think.In post 559, Not_Mafia wrote:lel
Good point. So momo is NOT "MD" either (In post 563, Not_Mafia wrote:He mentioned MD in his post above, Maxous? They don't seem simialr thoughIn post 560, Almost50 wrote:The thing is I have a short memory, so I keep track of my reads, remarks and VCs in a Word file, and when I went to switch momo's vote to Chip I find no momo there. I thought I might've deleted him by mistake or opened and older version, so I checked the opening post and the players list had no momo either, so I checked the activity view and those were his only 2 posts in this game. I think momo is mutant maybe?? It might be helpful to know who momo is in this game, I think.In post 559, Not_Mafia wrote:lel
Yeah, that's fine by me.. just in case (I'm 90% confident you are precisely Mafia here)In post 570, Chip Butty wrote:All i ask is you give me time to get a complete readslist out.
Exactly! So who is the scum on the wagon? We have seen Town flips from it, but we have yet to see a scum flip, and you stating "both townies and scum lords would jump on that" implies the answer to my earlier question about the wagon being all town is NO. So, 3 people flipped, all TOWN, and 4 alive including yourself and me (your strongest TR according to you). This leaves Chip and/or N_M for candidates of being Scum with Bins.. or even scum in general. Tell me if I'm going astray from following your stated line of thought.In post 579, mutantdevle wrote:She was confirmed scum by the cop. Both townies and scum lords would jump on that.
I already know who the VIG is... SIR! Do you also want me to tell you where I got it from???In post 580, Sauce wrote:Stop vighunting. Nuff said.