oh what a joke.In post 2056, Luca Blight wrote:Everything Hopkirk said was nonsense, as I already pointed out.
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literally everything.In post 2067, Luca Blight wrote:What particularly do you like about Hopkirk's push?-
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that last line is why Cedrick hard defended you but as hopkirk pointed out it doesn't even matter.In post 1946, Hopkirk wrote:@Tchill: I can see you as town. Luca/Cedrick is a serious concern for me.
Despite so many posts saying Luca is town, Cedrick never actually says why. Examples:
1141- Puts Luca as town (based on the vote?) without reason. Says he doesn't think my vote makes me look town. Should explain why Luca's was better when it was a hammer when Luca was the opposing wagon. Never considers scum-Luca in thread.
1158/1248- Gets ridiculously aggressive when I suggest Luca/Cedrick.
1348- 'Most people will think Luca is town' - why?
KTS kill makes sense with Luca scum if I remember right.
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In post 1167, Tchill13 wrote:
OK. Is the collective thought process on Luca going to be one that believes his claim and thinks he is town or is it gonna be one where he could possibly be scum?In post 1127, Luca Blight wrote:My D1 wagon is lookin pretty fucking bad right now. Wouldn't surprise me if all the scum were on it.In post 1171, Tchill13 wrote:
IF YOU'RE TOWN... There's absolutely no reason to bus there seeing how close a townie lynch was to getting through.In post 1130, Luca Blight wrote:Of course, it's possible someone could have bussed, although less likely in this case given how tight the lynch was.
I will analyse when I get to a computer.In post 1187, Tchill13 wrote:
People keep throwing around the cleared word. You're not cleared unless an investigative clears you. Yeah you're probably town. You're not cleared though. Nobody knows for sure until a flip.In post 1179, Luca Blight wrote:
I think even apart from my claim, my interactions with implosion and the makeup of the two wagons certainly give me considerable towncred, even if not clearing me entirely.In post 1171, Tchill13 wrote:
IF YOU'RE TOWN... There's absolutely no reason to bus there seeing how close a townie lynch was to getting through.In post 1130, Luca Blight wrote:Of course, it's possible someone could have bussed, although less likely in this case given how tight the lynch was.
I will analyse when I get to a computer.In post 1229, Tchill13 wrote:I think if we know Luca is town and we know implosions wagon is made up of all townies (due to the fact scum didn't have to bus there and there's no reason why they would with a townie lynch being that close) it's our best bet to win. We'd have to KNOW though so a Luca flip would be vital. I'm not opposed to a Luca lynch. Of course if Luca flipped scum I could see maybe Katherine being the partner but that's a very weak case.In post 1239, Tchill13 wrote:
That and the survival lynch on implosion at the end. Sure it lynched scum. If I'm playing with Luca being scum a possibility though then Luca just lynched scum for town cred.In post 1231, Cedrick wrote:my only issue with luca is she said she didn't pm the mod to commute. I don't see why a player wouldn't use their action that THEY think is the most important role.
I usually play by odds so it's highly unlikely both wagons were on scum. If we can get a Luca flip and give a justifiable hard TR to half the player base though I think it'll be an easy win.
this is some of it. I'd like you to go back. I actually pushed Luca/ katherine.In post 1249, Tchill13 wrote:
Actions speak louder than words. You totally could have lynched your scum partner with that phrasing.In post 1094, Luca Blight wrote:Consider my vote on implosion - I don't want to put him on L-1 in case of derp hammer.
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for the sake of info yes.In post 2085, Luca Blight wrote:
What else can someone do when flash-wagoned to L-1 other than defend themselves?In post 2082, Mumble wrote:Cool. Doesn't change the fact though.
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Hopkirk laid it out much better than I.In post 2086, Kookoobird wrote:
WatPeople keep throwing around the cleared word. You're not cleared unless an investigative clears you.Yeah you're probably town. You're not cleared though. Nobody knows for sure until a flip.
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not really. We already got the VCA if you flip town from your perspective. We really don't need anything else.In post 2091, Luca Blight wrote:
The more I post the more info there is, especially if I'm lynched.In post 2087, Tchill13 wrote:
for the sake of info yes.In post 2085, Luca Blight wrote:
What else can someone do when flash-wagoned to L-1 other than defend themselves?In post 2082, Mumble wrote:Cool. Doesn't change the fact though.
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In post 1337, Tchill13 wrote:
I'm not sure if he's town or not. That's the point.In post 1301, Cedrick wrote:
If you believed that then you wouldn’t be suspicious of him to begin with.In post 1282, Tchill13 wrote:
Why would scum bus implosion if a townie was that close to being lynched? What are the odds scum bus there? Very very small. So everyone on the implosion wagon should be town.In post 1279, Cedrick wrote:
I know I don'tIn post 1276, Tchill13 wrote:Do yall really not see where I'm getting my confirm 6 townies thing?In post 1355, Tchill13 wrote:
EitherIn post 1352, Cedrick wrote:
and we won't know that anytime soon, and we aren't lynching him day 2 as he was the counter the a POWERFUL mafia role. move onIn post 1349, Tchill13 wrote:Either Luca is town or he isn't.
Luca scum bussed the PR for town cred or
Scum tried to lynch Luca because he was the counter wagon to their strongest PR.
The game is pretty simple after that.In post 1565, Tchill13 wrote:Also nobody ever explained why lynching an unnkillable PR is a bad idea. Luca didn't spearhead the wagon. It was a survivalistic hammer. I don't see why he's untouchable. If luca is scum obviously scum are gonna fight his lynch because that leaves one scum left. If luca is town scum will fight that lynch because after we know for certain luca's alignment the game is MUCH, MUCH easier.
So i'm not sure why we are avoiding a lynch that would hurt scum either way.
I'll go to my grave saying Luca should be lynched until i'm given a good reason as to why he shouldn't be.
that last post is where I shift to luca for sure. Earlier quotes show me pushing from an efficient perspective. Once hopkirk mentioned the KTS killing it really solidified for me.In post 1947, Tchill13 wrote:you realize it's as much of my job not to be lynched as a VT as it is to figure out what's going on right ausuka? So of course i have to dance a thin line in surviving and solving. If it seems like i can survuve i play with that in mind. I did have a glimpse of hope for a little bit. So during that time im willing to look the other way on the LEAST likely scum in my scum pool. Now im back to where i should be.
Death is certain.
So honestly In order id guess: Luca, cedrick, Katherine, Maria, ausuka.
I believe the luca bus situation is the one thats playing out. Luca was genuinely upset mumble and katherine were TR'd at the end of day 1 because Luca was scum.
If its not luca and cedrick i'd lynch katherine first because she could be scum with either ausuka or maria but i don't see ausuka and maria being the team.
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I've seen mumble play very well when he's high activity. I wish he would play more but oh well.In post 2095, Mumble wrote:Why is it hilarious that I tell you how to play mafia?-
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I'm saying the lynch pool is on the original Luca wagon and now ausuka/flavor would be my proposed scum team and that's just too convenient given the NK.In post 2121, Gamma Emerald wrote:
This reeks of "that sucks" tellIn post 2119, Tchill13 wrote:Hmm. The Maria NK is very, very sketchy.
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That distancing didn't take long.In post 2124, Ausuka wrote:Maria is a really, really, really, really weird and strange kill coming from any scumteam that doesn't include Havo.
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In post 2127, Ausuka wrote:Because I was on mobile and had limited time but I wanted to get my vote in anyway. If I have a guilty I just state it outright, not blankvote.
We don't need to disturb normal dayplay because there's possibly a guilty. Sure, we don't lynch before everyone checks in, but I wasn't trying to lynch you yet.In post 2125, Havo wrote: Why not wait to see if any info comes out? Like does Mumble have anything?In post 2129, Kookoobird wrote:
I had you as lock town before I saw this. I should not be in your pool. Still probably town.In post 2123, Havo wrote:
What’s sketchy about it?In post 2119, Tchill13 wrote:Hmm. The Maria NK is very, very sketchy.
The fact that she was a good ML candidate for today and scum killed her anyway?
They only narrowed my pool down for me.
It went from Maria, Kath/Kook, Ausuka to
Ausuka, Kook
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Honestly, if you don't lynch this today you shouldn't be playing mafia.
Lynch flavor after I flip town.
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I only heavily TR'd havo and gamma due to position on the implosion wagon lol.In post 2202, Tchill13 wrote:I mean at this point scum can argue against my lynch and still get it hrough .
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How well have you followed the game?In post 2216, Flavor Leaf wrote:
Finally. That’s what I’m sayin’.In post 2211, Tchill13 wrote:I think scum is in flavor or gamma?
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Oh please. People have been trying to lynch me forever. "Hopped off implosion at L -1 " is a valid reason.
"That sucks" theory is lazy and laughable.
Nobody has a clue what's going on and nobody has since day 2. KTS was more valuable than I thought.
Either scum bussed or the team is ausuka/flavor. I suggest we decide right now where we want to lean.
Ausuka and flavor could also be scum with someone that did bus.
First of all is cedrick/kookoo town? I guess.
Second hopkirk has been heavily TR'd the whole game. Why kill Maria over hopkirk? At the end of the last day phase hopkirk seemed to pick up my initial push at the beginning of the day then fixed it up and pushed it through. Is hopkirk scum?
If hopkirk and kookoo are town, if I had a gun to my head I'd say they are, then gamma/ausuka/creature/flavor/havo is my pool.
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Katherine/Maria and Katherine/ausuka was always a possibility and I'm pretty sure I stated that several times.In post 2248, Flavor Leaf wrote:
Fair enough. I thought the team was Katherine/Maria before I replaced in. :shrug: both of them ended up being false.In post 2247, Tchill13 wrote:My point is the Katherine slot is very likely to be scum.
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Ohhhhh I misunderstood. Sorry.In post 2256, Flavor Leaf wrote:
I was more referring to the fact you stated you brought it up several times as both of those being a possibility. Why does that matter? I’m not scum reading you because of your reads, nor the inoccurence of them being brought up. All I said was before I replaced in to the game, I also was leaning Maria/Katherine. I just know that I wasn’t right on either of those because I’ve seen my role, and Maria flipped.In post 2255, Tchill13 wrote:It's relevant because I haven't been pushing that the Katherine slot is only scum if Maria is.-
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Tchill claimed VT not a PR.In post 2264, Mumble wrote:
Also that's 2 phases Tchill has lived.In post 2261, Tchill13 wrote:Also that's 2 phases mumble lived
Also is there any real reason for you to not lynch/lynch someone due to night actions?-
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Ausuka could be also I just said that at the time because of the jnteractionsIn post 2281, Hopkirk wrote:
why not Ausuka?In post 2211, Tchill13 wrote:I think scum is in flavor or gamma?-
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There's no reason to self vote as town. I do know my presence in this game negatively effects town but I expected a better answer.In post 2318, Kookoobird wrote:
Sure. Every vote on you is thumbs up.In post 2307, Tchill13 wrote:Kookoo should I self vote?-
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No its flavor and ausuka.
Kookoo stop with your elitist attitude and calling everyone shit. You're a decent player you don't have to sell that to anyone else. You'll never learn how to persuade people if you continue to do that and calling people shit because they're not good enough to listen to you is a reflection of your ability to persuade people. Be nice. It's a team game.-
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Like this is actually disgusting no matter what.In post 2327, Kookoobird wrote:Okay, so yea, Ausuka or Flavour tomorrow regardless of Tchill flip. Tchill first.-
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If you play with me because of a bet I highly beg you to play elsewhere. I'd like to play with people that WANT to play here and win.
The people that lost "the bet" are the ones you recklessly call shit. Nobody asked for your opinion and nobody signed up to play with someone starting the game with a negative attitude towards the sit or players in it.
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If you believe that and you're saying I'm town that means after flavor flips scum, you know it because your his partner, you'll flip your read on me then you'll say I guess scum did bus.
It explains why you're TR'ing me so heavily and why flavor is pursuing gamma. If you get gamma lynched you avoid lynching your partner completely.-
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Well you suck you at persuading people obviously because I'm scummy af and you still can't get people to lynch me lol. I'm town kookoo. Don't get frustrated and call ppl shit. Just take a breather instead.
I want to know why flavor and ausuka don't expect a team with X/tchill from the other or why they haven't mentioned the possibility of the other being scum with someone who did bus.-
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Lmao. Worst time to flip on me if you really think I'm town. Looks bad on you.In post 2365, Ausuka wrote:
VOTE: TchillIn post 2363, Tchill13 wrote: I want to know why flavor and ausuka don't expect a team with X/tchill from the other or why they haven't mentioned the possibility of the other being scum with someone who did bus.
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It's tone and pushing others than tr me isn't it? So why is me pushing you a red flag?In post 2364, Ausuka wrote:
You mean apart from the things that I have stated in the thread multiple times?In post 2349, Tchill13 wrote:I mean you're both actually against my lynch rn and there's no real reason for it.
It makes sense imo.
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So no answer? Just a dismissal and vote?In post 2365, Ausuka wrote:
VOTE: TchillIn post 2363, Tchill13 wrote: I want to know why flavor and ausuka don't expect a team with X/tchill from the other or why they haven't mentioned the possibility of the other being scum with someone who did bus.
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So if you weren't voting me rn would flavor be your preferred lynch?In post 2376, Tchill13 wrote:So would you be okay with flipping flavor first?since he's in both possibilities?-
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