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[LuckyOtter]

Hey folks, happy to be back.

VOTE: MaryJoLisa if that even is your name

[LuckyOtter]

Lol I actually tried to replace into otters vs penguins but wasn't quick enough. But that's ok because I might have been biased due to the clear superiority of otters over penguins.

If MJL is lying about her name, what else???

I think NM is the only one here I've played with before. So far on par with what I remember.

[LuckyOtter]

VOTE: Redemption

I don't like the vote and sudden unvote. Seems an odd move this early in the game.

[LuckyOtter]

Cool. How do you feel about Gamma?

[LuckyOtter]

Ok then

[LuckyOtter]

whos excited to PLAY! SOME! MAFIA!

Sure am! Especially with the higher ups of MafiaScum, if I'm correct

VOTE: Redemption

I don't like the vote and sudden unvote. Seems an odd move this early in the game.

From what Otter just wrote, he seems to me like either a bad town that doesn't understand nor mention outgame context (in order to apply pressure) or a scum that tries to make himself look good.

Are you trying to say your vote was to apply pressure? Why the unvote, then?

[LuckyOtter]

already 3 pages deep

RVS ends after 3 pages? TIL

Idk if that was sarcastic but maybe I'm just not used with the pages of MafiaScum. I used to play on Smogon and a lot happens in 3 pages. Remember that I'm still new here.

Ok fine, but maybe don't talk to me like I don't know the game. Lol.

VOTE: Zuckerberg stuff is happening yo

[LuckyOtter]

Performer! I missed you in the list. Sorry bout that.

CDB I like you already. I don't expect everything to be super serious around here but this is a bit nuts. That aside, I don't see what makes MJL's post necessarily anti-town. I can see greener town asking that question.

If Zuckerberg is just being a troll I'm going to move my vote back over here: VOTE: Redemption

[LuckyOtter]

@Redemption because I didn't like your answer or subsequent posts, and I don't like any other wagons so far.

[LuckyOtter]

First he tries to discredit me before addressing the unvote. When pressed says he got nervous by it (to his credit, he might not be so familiar with how things work around here, but I still don't think it warrants being that nervous and unvoting so quickly).

Lots of fluff after that, responding to irrelevant things. A few of us are actually trying to get the game going and he seems to have ignored it altogether, saying he might need to 'start the ball rolling' as if it hadn't already. And then he is still hesitant.

Could be legit nerves but with not much else to go on right now I like my vote there.

[LuckyOtter]

Pro-town attitude should be to speak your mind at the risk of getting lynched... especially D1

[LuckyOtter]

Why are so many people not voting?

[LuckyOtter]

How many people are currently townreading LUV?

Is there anything there to townread? What's your read?

[LuckyOtter]

Performer, are you trying to pocket me again? Oh shucks. I had a slight town read on you anyway.

I'm also seeing schadd's reads in reverse, or nearly. CDB too high (null for me, might just be trying to look busy), gamma, vork and performer too low (although, schadd do you mean that the second to last tier is null and you have several layers of townreads above it?). I'm ok with Penguin high and Pika low for now.

On that note, I'm not crazy about the votes going on Gamma. I don't see it. Any of you want to elaborate?

Psyche, now would be a great time to start chiming in.

[LuckyOtter]

Given you said you are reading schmod's read in reverse, that means you have me as lockscum?

I'm ok putting you somewhere in my townish pile for now. I liked 151, 156, and your questioning in general so far.

I take it you don't have anything to say about the Gamma wagon, though?

[LuckyOtter]

I get moving the game along with wagons, but you were on a significant wagon at the time (5-person on MJL) and there were 2-person wagons going on me and Redemption as well, so there must have been something else that made you leave the MJL wagon and choose Gamma over others, no?

[LuckyOtter]

Will be back later tonight to reassess redemption. But I still don't see any good case against gamma other than being a lurky lou

Performer I don't have an alt but for full disclosure I played awhile ago under neko2086. That was like, over 10 years ago tho.

NM what's up? You managed to formulate a coherent question for redemption so maybe you can afford me one.

[LuckyOtter]

Okiedokie then. I'm not getting the townvibes off of Redemption like everyone else apparently is, but I'm not going to be able to fully sort him today either. UNVOTE:

@LUV: You still on board with the Gamma vote? If so, why?

@Psyche: you going to play or?

As of now I'll join the MJL wagon before Gamma but I'm not sold on either. We've got time to get another wagon going so howsabout VOTE: LUV. Any takers? He's contributed almost nothing of substance so far.

[LuckyOtter]

MJL I don't think NM is a viable candidate today. You have thoughts on a different vote?

[LuckyOtter]

I mean...I will do a side-by-side ISO compare if you want me to PetRock.

I really do want you to do that, Danny Devito (just figured it out, lol)

[LuckyOtter]

@Vorkuta, sorry, you did guess Danny first. How is that not the answer? Willing to lynch NM just for that (actually no, and not willing to do a policy lynch unless we can't come to any other kind of consensus).

@MJL: How do you feel about Gamma and LUV as options?

[LuckyOtter]

VOTE: Danny Devito

Why?

[LuckyOtter]

Guh he's in prod range so *shrugs*
If he scumposts then I'll wagon, else I like psyche

My thoughts, except I'd still go for LUV atm.

Why psyche, though? Seemed like your initial vote was mostly due to inactivity.

[LuckyOtter]

@PP Thanks!

[LuckyOtter]

His ISO just reads bad and like he's trying to earn points instead of solving.

I've seen "dejected"/"D1 is boring hurry up and end it" play from town before, but something tells me that
-he should know better
-he's doing it for LAMIST points
-he's just trying to stir stuff up for the sake of causing discord up in here

So I like my vote where it is (as I can't summon others here) and he hasn't danced enough for me

Hm. I'm not reading "hurry up and end it" from him at all. Especially due to his comments about wasting early energy on lynching lurkers and the "overwhelming amount of real content" to sift through. (p-edit: and see psyche's last post)

I will say though, that the bit about town defaulting to lynching lurkers rubs me the wrong way. It's not just him--there's currently a sitewide meta that discourages pursuing lurkers, and it's making lurking a viable strategy again--but since he was talking about potentially going after active lurkers earlier, the comment is a bit disingenuous. He's in my null pile right now.

[LuckyOtter]

Psyche, what do you make of MJL?

[LuckyOtter]

PP, he's referring to Vork's 507. Nobody is advocating hurrying and ending anything, but Vork is trying to imply that Psyche is, which I think is pretty clearly false.

[LuckyOtter]

@Psyche: Not sure if you're talking to me, but yes I understand what active lurking is and was trying to say that it has recently become a viable strategy again. Hence my vote on LUV. Do you disagree with that assessment?

I also asked you about MJL. What's your read?

[LuckyOtter]

@psyche because your original posts didn't really show that you were thinking about the difference between them. You mention active lurking in 443 but then here:

town always seems default to just lynching a lurky and/or dumb guy on d1; it's such a waste of early energy

you appear to be discrediting going after lurkers altogether. It's really not a major concern for me but something I'm keeping an eye on atm.

[LuckyOtter]

Also still wanting Psyche's read on MJL, who has posted a lot in this game

[LuckyOtter]

{peng redemp}
{psyche}
{cdb}
{nm}
{vorq mjl gamma}
{uzi otter perfo}
{Detective Pikachu}

ugh

{peng redemp psyche}
[...]

oh nevermind seems not lol

{peng redemp}
{psyche}
{cdb}
{vorq}
{nm}
{mjl gamma}
{uzi otter perfo}
{Detective Pikachu}

I don't really get why there was the need to post this twice... there would have been no reason to make a new list just because you were changing your placement of psyche if he wasn't moving more than one tier. Seems like ... not exactly busywork, but I don't see why you felt the need to do this as town. If it was just because Vork was below NM, why was Vork still below NM in 488?

Interesting take... I don't see this as busywork (or AI) at all. Calling someone out for posting a slightly updated reads list, and your posts 626, 627, 628, and 630 that are devoid of anything useful seem more like busywork, actually.

I don't think the case against schadd is strong enough to be trying to start that wagon right now, whereas you could be looking into any of the other people who have wagons going. Think they're all town? Why, then?

VOTE: Detective Pikachu

Just going to remind everyone though that LUV still hasn't contributed anything of substance, and I'm wondering why I'm the only one who cares.

Penguin vs. Psyche is reading TvT to me. I don't see a Penguin lynch today and if ppl aren't getting on board with LUV, then this is where I'm going.

The only thing that gives me pause is Redemption trying to push to eliminate competing wagons already. Vote counts were 4, 3, 2, 2, so at 6 days out, what makes the 3-person wagon more viable than the 2-person wagons?

[LuckyOtter]

VOTE: MaryJoLisa

Want to elaborate on this?

[LuckyOtter]

[...]

Probably scum

: Detective Pikachu, Lucky Otter

Detective Pikachu: Just returned from over a day of absence without mentioning or justifying it.

Lucky Otter: Only person voting me as of now. Just because he didn't like my answers at some point in the game, wasn't even bothered emphasizing on his motives since.

[...]

First of all that is not a great reason to put Pikachu as probably scum.

Re: me, I haven't been voting you for awhile, and I did justify my motives in 177.

A couple of lazy reads here.

[LuckyOtter]

Just returned from over a day of absence without mentioning or justifying it.

I'm sorry guys I was out for a few hours. It was quite necessary. Please don't scum read me for it

/s

Ahem ahem I was quoting Redemption there. Do not attribute that nonsense to me, pls. Thx.

[LuckyOtter]

Last time I stuck to my guns lynching a claimed PR was bad news. And I was more sure of it then than now. But let's hear it. Vork, how sure are you he's lying?

VOTE: lil uzi

[LuckyOtter]

VOTE: Performer Beetlejuice

Psyche, you seem like you know what you're talking about.

Do me! Analyze me!

I feel neglected.

okay, fine. If your analysis was going to make me glow with pride over my natural psychological normalcy or better yet my own intellectual achievements, then I'd hope you'd be very forthcoming! But if you feel maybe you're not ready to put forth such contributions to my character, I will totally understand an respect that.

The above feel really off to me because they don’t quite match up with the personality assessment of Mary Jo I have in my head.

I think a newer player would not be so overly eager in the first post to be psychologically analyzed by Mr. Personality. I feel like they would be extremely intimidated. It reads to me like she was trying to see if she can have someone town case her for free without putting any effort.

I also feel like town would’ve left it at the second post and not go on about not being analyzed in the last post.

Except I would think newer town would be more likely to want that kind of attention than newer scum, no? At least in my experience the general newbie scum play is to try to keep as much attention off of yourself as possible.

[LuckyOtter]

Just going to remind everyone though that LUV still hasn't contributed anything of substance, and I'm wondering why I'm the only one who cares.

You’re the only one that cares because you believe not doing anything is alignment indicative.

No, I believe that calculated inaction is alignment indicative.

[LuckyOtter]

We should probably think of who to lynch between PenguinPower and Detective Pikachu.

Why do you keep trying to gate the lynch? How do you see that as pro-town?

Idk, maybe because it's the way for town to actually kill scum?

Are you saying that because you want to raise questioning in order to get town away from lynchingyou? Or maybe you are doing that because you want town to get away from an effective lynch period.

Right now I believe they are both tied at 3/7 votes. I'm just gonna tip the scale on Detective Pikachu's side since evidence against him is piling up and no one gives a fuck about answering my question. We'll get PenguinPower on d2 I hope.

VOTE: Detective Pikachu

Btw, nice ignorance of my critic of your favorite movie, I guess I got you right in the feels.

I actually asked you a similar question the last time you tried to narrow down the wagons.

Also, nobody cares about what you thought about the damn movie.

[LuckyOtter]

Detective Pikachu

Psyche
Vorkuta

PenguinPower
chennisden
Lil Uzi Vert

Not_Mafia

Redemption
ChannelDelibird

MaryJoLisa

LuckyOtter
Performer

schadd_

I think this is where I'm at.

Otter, Performer, what are your reads of schadd?

I will answer, but also want to know how I ended up so far down your list. I don't recall you scumreading me before. In fact, last time you mentioned me at all you seemed to be leaning townie.

[LuckyOtter]

schadd has been in my null pile pretty much the whole game. He started voting me early on for apparently meta/gut reasons that can't really be reasoned with, and I could see coming from either town or scum. I don't approach each game with the same attitude, and last time he saw me play was several months ago anyway, so town!schadd could reasonably see something different in my play that pings him. He hasn't really tried to sort me since but he never gave the impression I was going to be a D1 sort anyway.

He's put most of his attention on DP, Psyche, and chenn, and to some extent LUV, performer, and CDB, the latter three I assume because of their low activity. That kind of engagement strikes me as townish since he could just let the lurkers gather some negative attention.

Re: recent interactions, it doesn't look to me like schadd is trying to goad DP or create wifom. Actually he seems to want to move on and sort others, and he's been doing it in a pretty consistent trajectory.

@Performer: His vote on chenn you mean?

[LuckyOtter]

I dont like this vote from schadd without reason, I dont like the ub claim either from pika, it makes no sense at all.

I think the reads list from redemption is coming from town, and the replace in from chen is very odd with the vote and unvote of pp.

Psyches wall posting is hard to understand.

1. See prev. question on schadd
2. Why don't you buy the UB claim?
3. Say some more about chen and why you think his voting is odd
4. Do you see Psyche's wall posting as alignment indicative?

[LuckyOtter]

I haven’t bothered to read any of Redemption’s recent posts since I decided to mark him as town for the foreseeable future. Who do you think are the scum attempting to let him hang himself so to speak?

Well, I feel like Penguin should have understood what he was trying to say, but I'm not sure Penguin has the disposition that would make him likely to explain the term that was meant to be used. N_M never explains. And Vork seemed to kind of ignore it, but Vork is town. So I kinda feel like town is just not really being very helpful to a new player rather than seeing a big scum motivation there.

wanting to vote Chenn at this point.

pichu is probably town given it's schadd leading the wagon

pikachu is right here

schadd not towny

What makes you say schadd isn't towny?

[LuckyOtter]

Lucky i don't know who's vote on chen that you're talking about . Mod can we get a vc?

I have pika and chen as the top 2 candidates .

Cdb i'm having some trouble sorting. Schadd interactions, such as his ones with pika, made me lean town pm him.

You said "I don't like this vote from schadd without reason." which vote are you referring to?

[LuckyOtter]

That’s a weird one.

Why? What should be done about it?

What's your read on Detective Pikachu and his claim?

[LuckyOtter]

I will answer, but also want to know how I ended up so far down your list. I don't recall you scumreading me before. In fact, last time you mentioned me at all you seemed to be leaning townie.

[...]
That being said, a little concerned that me asking whether your slot is "maybe townie" about one posts made you feel like I had enough of a townread on you that you decided to hedge on what you think about schadd

How do you come to this interpretation of my position on schadd?

[LuckyOtter]

Redemption discussing the DP movie is scummy because it feels like a substitute for actually playing

Everything he does is scummy! I've been sitting here wondering how no one else sees it.

Your summary of your case against him doesn't point to you thinking this way, though. You said you think his earlier meltdown was just an act and this seems to be the basis of your vote on him. So what else has he done that is actually scummy?

[LuckyOtter]

Lucky i don't know who's vote on chen that you're talking about . Mod can we get a vc?

I have pika and chen as the top 2 candidates .

Cdb i'm having some trouble sorting. Schadd interactions, such as his ones with pika, made me lean town pm him.

You said "I don't like this vote from schadd without reason." which vote are you referring to?

From a catchup, I think he naked voted me. Even though i think he's town, that's a questionable vote from schadd. Which...nobody inquired about, interestingly

His vote on you was consistent with his reads and trajectory. He moved his vote to chenn after that. You had him leaning town so I'm not sure what the purpose is of bringing up his vote on you if you didn't really have a question/follow up for him, and the fact that you missed his vote on chenn makes me think your catchup is half-hearted. Moving you down into my null pile.

[LuckyOtter]

The more we can start getting a clearer sense of where everyone is, the better.

{Vorkuta}
{Penguin, Psyche}
{Schadd, NM, Performer, chenn}
{Pikachu, Redemption}
{MJL, LUV}

[LuckyOtter]

MJL one rank too low there, actually.

[LuckyOtter]

Gawdamit I forgot CDB. He's somewhere in rank 2 or 3.

@MJL top down town to scum, null in the middle.

[LuckyOtter]

How do you come to this interpretation of my position on schadd?

Actually you did answer in 858, but you worded it in such a way that I thought you were saying schadd "was null" for you, as though it had changed and you weren't saying your current read yet. That seems to have been a misread of your post on my part. In fairness, "he's been null all game and is still null" isn't exactly a very clear read.

Is schadd null-town or just null for you? I guess your null bracket is null-town through poe? The way you ask "why he hasn't been townish" makes it seem like he's more of a leantown for you

Alright I thought that might be a misread on your part, and fair enough, though I did try to explain why schadd is a fuzzy read for me. Gun to my head if I split up my null pile schadd and maybe NM would be higher and chenn and Performer are leaning downwards.

[LuckyOtter]

Chenn please respond to 864

[LuckyOtter]

* shrugs *

I will not be successful with my Redemption push and I feel bad trying to really dig in and push someone who takes these wagons so personally. A lynch, any lynch is better than no lynch. At least then we get information.

But you're not

really

pushing for him. I asked you for a more complete read and you said you'd provide it, but instead you continue to just say he's scum.

Also, I thought you thought he wasn't actually taking his wagon personally, and that it was just a ploy to come off as newbtown. That's the central point of your case against him. So if you really believed that, you wouldn't care if he reacted negatively to you trying to start another wagon on him, and actually you'd have incentive to try to needle him some more.

VOTE: MaryJoLisa

[LuckyOtter]

No it doesn't illustrate your position well enough. You've focused entirely on his early game play and 'flailing,' which you now say was put on, but you also said this:

Redemption discussing the DP movie is scummy because it feels like a substitute for actually playing

Everything he does is scummy! I've been sitting here wondering how no one else sees it.

This would implicate his later interactions as well as his reads, and I'm not seeing any effort from you to analyse his posts or engage with him to push him on his reads, etc. But you keep asserting that you're making a push to make yourself look active when, looking over your ISO, you're really not doing hardly any scumhunting at all.

Let's say you're right on Red. Who would be his most and least likely scum partners?

[LuckyOtter]

@anyone, legit question, what happens if our mod doesn't come back? Can we call for a backup mod? Should I go scour Arden looking for him?

Also, is that why activity has kinda died down? Or are people just ready to settle on pikachu?

[LuckyOtter]

LUV's apathy toward the game is frustrating but it reads genuine. He's going into my null/sort D2 pile. Actually, @LUV, what's your read on Performer?

I'm at a point where I just want to resolve either Performer's or Pika's slot, and I'd rather go after Pika. I'm still feeling scum from MJL, so I'm not liking the blatant rolefishing (also, not super liking PP's calling her out on that and then joining her anyway). I'm sure it's a newbie error on her part but it reads more newbscum than newbtown. MJL+Pika seems plausible to me.

Chen reads mildly scummy. There are a couple moments of what look like genuine analysis in his iso but a lot of it is empty reads ("schadd not towny, MJL and DP town," etc.). His approach to pika reads like buddying or wanting to get the 'i told you so' points D2 (which he has already stated himself), but it also kind of feels too obvious. It also seems likely that it's Pika who is buddying chenn and/or coming out looking good D2.

So, Pika's the common denominator here. VOTE: Detective Pikachu

[LuckyOtter]

The more we can start getting a clearer sense of where everyone is, the better.

{Vorkuta}
{Penguin, Psyche}
{Schadd, NM, Performer, chenn}
{Pikachu, Redemption}
{MJL, LUV}

You just listed Performer as a mid null? why do you now want to "resolve" between me and someone you nullread? I know you're voting me but what happened to your redemption read? Just seems like a weird comment given Performer was on the same tier as schadd who you seem to null town on

I mentioned earlier that Performer would be lower in that group if I had to decide, and more recently I'm losing trust in him/worried that he actually is just trying to pocket me again. Your interactions with him don't read TvT to me, so I'd peg you as scum first.

Redemption is in the same boat as MJL for me now. He's a D2 sort/resolve. I don't trust him but I don't have a reason to try to run up a wagon right now when I think there's a good chance among you, chenn, and performer.

[LuckyOtter]

Danny Devito/Gibberish/TingTing

Assuming Gibberish is Redemption. Or maybe chenn but in that case I disagree with that particular combo.

[LuckyOtter]

LUV's apathy toward the game is frustrating but it reads genuine. He's going into my null/sort D2 pile. Actually, @LUV, what's your read on Performer?

I’m not touching the whole UB controversy with a 10 foot pole so null.

I don't blame you there but can you read him regardless?

[LuckyOtter]

Hi nom, welcome. Interested in your take on Performer and Pikachu as well.

[LuckyOtter]

VC 1.12

Redemption:

Psyche:

Performer:

Detective Pikachu, chennisden, MaryJoLisa

Not_Mafia:

Detective Pikachu:

Not_Mafia, Redemption, schadd_

nomnomnom:

chennisden:

nomnomnom, PenguinPower

LuckyOtter:

MaryJoLisa:

LuckyOtter

Vorkuta:

Lil Uzi Vert:

PenguinPower:

schadd_:

Vorkuta

Not Voting:

Psyche, Lil Uzi Vert, Performer

With

13

votes,

7

to lynch

Deadline: (expired on 2019-06-05 21:00:43)

This vote count is inaccurate as I voted DP in 1196

[LuckyOtter]

Yes it's l-1

[LuckyOtter]

Trying to catch up since I was last on. I'm not voting performer today unless in catching up I see something particularly compelling

[LuckyOtter]

I just doubt that scum!nom goes this hard against town!DP when there was a perfectly good chance at getting Chenn lynched, or at least parking a vote on chen while town proceeds to lynch town!Dp. The only scenario in which this makes any sense to me is if it was some kind of distancing gambit from scum!chenn, but even then I think scum!nom parks a vote on chenn and fans the flames on DP. I don't see scum!nom here

[LuckyOtter]

If Pika isn't happening then I'll go chenn

[LuckyOtter]

I have a hard time seeing LUV scum now because I don't see any motivation for DP to shade his partner like this early on:

How many people are currently townreading LUV?

I've got Redemption and MJL as most likely pairings in my notes.

DP almost never interacts with MJL but puts her relatively low in his rankings, and then is willing to coax her onto the performer wagon:

MJL can I interest you in a Performer vote?

Not to mention she does like, 0 scumhunting all of D1.

Redemption had DP in his scumpile for a really weak reason in 563 ("Just returned from over a day of absence without mentioning or justifying it.") He doesn't give much more reasoning for voting him later in 832 other than "evidence is piling up against him." I think there's a good case for bussing here, but I'm also not sure that move was really necessary. I'm leaning slightly against this scenario at the moment

Off chance of Vorkuta (consistently says he doesn't believe the UB claim but still puts DP in neutral rankings. @Vork why was that?) but I don't think he's the one to push today.

The Performer/DP interaction toward the end of day yesterday doesn't immediately strike me as SvS but I need to review it

[LuckyOtter]

Anyone want to claim fruit or to have been visited for shits and giggles?

*ahem*
VOTE: schadd

Him getting off the pichu wagon immediately after his UB claim is suspicious
Him not 100% supporting it the second time he was wagonned is also sus

unvoting a PR claim and then Only voting him at the end of the day. yeah, sorry i didn't do better. i believe you'll find my reasons pretty extensively detailed

Um...compulsive multitasking town role and you think Vig over PGO why?

pgo is not a normal role

VOTE: LUV
559, 898, 1150/1 gave me the impression of s/s with pikachu

Can you explain why these posts look like S/S with DP?

[LuckyOtter]

@schadd, I still get hung up on DP's 257. Feels like a weird move. I don't see the benefit of calling attention to a partner like that.

[LuckyOtter]

VOTE: MJL this just seems like the easy answer

[LuckyOtter]

Nobody wants a lynch right now. But the game is kinda stalled until we know what's up with Red and MJL.

[LuckyOtter]

Vortuka is consistently voting with Pikachu and is not on Scumwagon at all

How many intents to hammer did you see in that VCA of yours?
oh wait....

On the subject, Vork, I had a question for you in 1817 that you haven't answered yet I don't think (question was easy to miss I'm sure but now would be a good time to answer it)

[LuckyOtter]

@ Vork I don't see what that has to do with moving DP to neutral in your reads list.

@ schadd, I mean if we want to make post count to content ratio arguments then we should be looking at MJL first

[LuckyOtter]

Kind of SR otters. Feel like theyre hunting for wagons and not scum, if that makes sense. I dont have the energy to dig through the walls tho. Maybe its just otter's style.

Is otter an alt? cuz i feel like theyre an open alt.

Not an alt, and don't know what you mean by hunting for wagons.

[LuckyOtter]

And um... is it possible to have 2 fruit vendors in the same game? Honestly asking.

[LuckyOtter]

Mjl was voting performer before hammering DP. Why wouldn't she investigate him?

[LuckyOtter]

Not an alt,

Right, except you played a newbie as an SE. And I mean, your avatar and prose say otherwise.

but okay. Im not here to dig.

I played about 10 years ago as neko2086 if you really want to dig.

P-edit given mjl's newish status I'd expect a pretty straightforward investigation.

[LuckyOtter]

My only pause is Mary Jo replacing out. I don’t think she replaces out as town here but no counterwagon implies the slot is town.

I'm getting a sinking feeling you might be right on the last bit.

But then, who do you think is scum, and why are you doing literally 0 scumhunting today? This is kinda looking like you're just happy to let Bob hang and then get told ya so points tomorrow.

[LuckyOtter]

Honestly? yes
Practically? no

Why yes?

[LuckyOtter]

Hey folks, I'm V/LA for a few days, but will try to catch up in the evenings when I've got time.

I think vork is someone to look at but I don't think he's they lynch today. I'm not buying anything from bob and prefer to lynch that slot, but if we're not going that direction, I'd rather go LUV.

I don't know what schadd has against me this game but I'm not really getting scummy vibes from him, other than a pretty flimsy connection between me and performer. If someone wants to case him I'll listen, but I think bob/LUV is the way to go.

[LuckyOtter]

This was a weird game and it ended weirdly.

Going to siteflake for a while now. See y'all next summer maybe lol

[LuckyOtter]

This was a weird game and it ended weirdly.

Going to siteflake for a while now. See y'all next summer maybe lol

noooooo
you were fun to play with, come back soon

You're sweet. It's occured to me that you've been in all the games I've played this summer and it's been fun playing with you, even if you rolled me twice

I actually did enjoy this game and this was a fun group overall. I realistically probably can't commit during the school year, but I'll consider it. :p