Mini 1836: Space Mafia (Game Over)

Zachstralkita · Post Post #33 (isolation #0) » Thu Sep 29, 2016 5:27 am

As long as TwoFace always follows through on his coin flips he should be untouchable. Bad Xkfyu. Bad.

Also,

VOTE: Toto

Scummiest entrance I've ever witnessed.

Zachstralkita · Post Post #35 (isolation #1) » Thu Sep 29, 2016 5:30 am

I would never lynch Harvey Dent.

Zachstralkita · Post Post #42 (isolation #2) » Thu Sep 29, 2016 6:18 am

In post 41, MariaR wrote:VOTE: Zach

Peace sign avi's are overrated

Ugh this started already? I was enjoying the nice pre game silence....whatever

oh hey maria, I see you're embarrassing yourself as usual

the central part of the avi is CLEARLY the cat ears and the adorable wink

Zachstralkita · Post Post #47 (isolation #3) » Thu Sep 29, 2016 6:27 am

In post 45, MariaR wrote: The only thing twofaced about you is your alignment

explain this sentence

Zachstralkita · Post Post #54 (isolation #4) » Thu Sep 29, 2016 6:38 am

Thanks Dan, I'm back here with MariaR, our chief correspondent on being a big meanie.

Maria, do you feel accomplished by attempting to be deep? *points mic*

Zachstralkita · Post Post #56 (isolation #5) » Thu Sep 29, 2016 6:45 am

do- do not touch my fucking mic. who do you think you are, shifting the balance of power like that?

well chief correspondent mariaR, I'd have to say at least one.

and hi grapes

Zachstralkita · Post Post #62 (isolation #6) » Thu Sep 29, 2016 6:53 am

who are these motherfuckers on my set

Zachstralkita · Post Post #65 (isolation #7) » Thu Sep 29, 2016 6:59 am

I'm trying to be civil,, Maria knows I'd mortal kombat fatality her

i havent even dropped any bars yet..

Zachstralkita · Post Post #69 (isolation #8) » Thu Sep 29, 2016 7:06 am

Dunnstral wrote:I can tell this is going to be one of
those
games where everybody townreads Zach

VOTE: Zachstralkita

^

he cocky huh? Who gave him the chip? He fugazy a wimp, spend ONE WEEK in county it'd be Kool-Aid in his LIPS

Zachstralkita · Post Post #96 (isolation #9) » Thu Sep 29, 2016 9:05 am

Naomi-Tan wrote:
In post 33, Zachstralkita wrote:As long as TwoFace always follows through on his coin flips he should be untouchable. Bad Xkfyu. Bad.

Also,

VOTE: Toto

Scummiest entrance I've ever witnessed.
Can you explain this post i don't get it.

the villain Two Face makes his decisions based on the flip of a coin. Now if the account named TwoFace with the avatar to match did not live up to his persona, I would be compelled to policy lynch there. But he is flipping the coin. So he will not be touched.

Also, do I have to start ignoring Dunn this early? Yes. Yes I do.

Zachstralkita · Post Post #98 (isolation #10) » Thu Sep 29, 2016 9:10 am

Vedith is an amiable individual whose company is usually pleasant.

Zachstralkita · Post Post #102 (isolation #11) » Thu Sep 29, 2016 9:27 am

That's not a word and you're full of shit as usual

Zachstralkita · Post Post #113 (isolation #12) » Thu Sep 29, 2016 9:41 am

In post 110, grapes wrote:him*

zach, do something town

im already existing so

Zachstralkita · Post Post #121 (isolation #13) » Thu Sep 29, 2016 9:59 am

In post 115, Dunnstral wrote:Vote him

Also I see we're choosing to ignore massive choosing to ignore the whole thread

What happened to me being scum? You soft ass teddy bear

that feel when I also SR Toto

Zachstralkita · Post Post #221 (isolation #14) » Fri Sep 30, 2016 7:18 am

In post 213, massive wrote:I'm not buying it. If your role PM was green, you wouldn't be calling town "blue" at any point. You even looked at the front page to make Post 79 and couldn't get it right. This is the first game where you've decided on this arbitrary color association, so there's obviously some reason you're associating "scum" with "red" and don't have any idea what color town should be.

ya get this bullshit out of here lol

VOTE: massive

Zachstralkita · Post Post #227 (isolation #15) » Fri Sep 30, 2016 7:36 am

AWWWWWW SHE ASTERISKS IT

...yeah toto's posts are awful by the way, im comfy lynching inside of there or massive obviously

Zachstralkita · Post Post #260 (isolation #16) » Fri Sep 30, 2016 9:11 am

In post 258, MariaR wrote: Repeat the first line in english.

lmfao

Zachstralkita · Post Post #270 (isolation #17) » Fri Sep 30, 2016 1:13 pm

can the knowledgable townfolk join this god damned massive wagon?

holy shit i cannot believe this color shit is a serious topic

Zachstralkita · Post Post #271 (isolation #18) » Fri Sep 30, 2016 1:14 pm

I cannot believe Dunn is also being taken seriously

Zachstralkita · Post Post #287 (isolation #19) » Sat Oct 01, 2016 6:03 am

In post 272, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 270, Zachstralkita wrote:can the knowledgable townfolk join this god damned massive wagon?

holy shit i cannot believe this color shit is a serious topic

In post 271, Zachstralkita wrote:I cannot believe Dunn is also being taken seriously
? I haven't even been talking about you I was talking about the color thing with massive

This is kind of a contradiction honestly, you should be agreeing with me here on what I'm saying about the color thing but you just brush me off

I didn't say you were talking about me.

Yeah, I am brushing you off. You haven't really given me a reason not to.

Naomi-Tan wrote:
Zachstralkita - Omg I can't stop staring at the wiggling ears >w< my memory just pulls up ear wiggle-wink-twirl
She is as cute and fluffy as me XD Why are you so goooooooooood XD.

That's actually a boy.

Zachstralkita · Post Post #289 (isolation #20) » Sat Oct 01, 2016 7:20 am

I have to say Naomi, how exactly do you read people?

Because I've really done jack shit in terms of solid content (I think) and I'm green to you. I mean, I'm happy that you're smart (real recognize real), but I'd like to peek into your thought processes.

Zachstralkita · Post Post #295 (isolation #21) » Sat Oct 01, 2016 9:34 am

hmm not sure if i'd agree with that sentiment @grapes

why is no one game for roping massive? that faux-psychology shit just seemed like a way to act as if you're gamesolving without doing it

Zachstralkita · Post Post #298 (isolation #22) » Sat Oct 01, 2016 9:45 am

I think if I was, I would be voting him. He's being his usual fuckboy self but we share a SR on Toto.

He's certainly not the worst option but I feel like looking at stuff more. And developing other stuff.

Sorry but this whole " color scumslip " incident gives me a flashback of another incident which I won't go into detail on at this moment. really EHHHNRGGGG..

grapes wrote:Also why are you pushing massive for faux-psychology but disagreeing with me saying that it's not a defacto scumslip?

I didn't clarify what I meant when I said I disagreed with " that sentiment ". We are in agreeance on the whole scumslip thing.

I WAS talking about your Dunnstral vote (see top of post) and you saying Naomi is a "good option".

Zachstralkita · Post Post #309 (isolation #23) » Sat Oct 01, 2016 12:40 pm

yo i fucking love this guy LOL

nos why didnt you act like this in NY 196 LMAO

Zachstralkita · Post Post #316 (isolation #24) » Sat Oct 01, 2016 12:45 pm

In post 304, grapes wrote:
In post 298, Zachstralkita wrote:I think if I was, I would be voting him. He's being his usual fuckboy self but we share a SR on Toto.
I think toto towned up a bit and dunn feels
prick
ly and stern to me give the iso another look when you get a chance.

Dunn always feels like a prick to me. Ha. Ha.

I peeped his posts tho and I can't say what I saw makes me want to agree with you. Dunn is always saying stupid shit. It's practically NAI to me at this point. Bad policy to adopt, I know, but I haven't yet been in a situation where giving Dunn the benefit of the doubt for acting the way he does has fucked me hardcore somehow.

Zachstralkita · Post Post #320 (isolation #25) » Sat Oct 01, 2016 12:51 pm

Naomi, in what fucking universe does explicitly stating you're voting for "pressure" achieve the desired result?

1) vocalizing your intentions allows people to cater their responses to them if they so desire

2) dude just pops in and you promptly unvote after... really?

sorry, transparency is bad.

Zachstralkita · Post Post #326 (isolation #26) » Sat Oct 01, 2016 12:58 pm

okay man to man tho dunn, what did I do to you personally that is causing you to treat me like this because this needs to be addressed

cause you never answer my fucking phone calls, or my kiks, or my snaps, and u never tryna smoke

Zachstralkita · Post Post #328 (isolation #27) » Sat Oct 01, 2016 1:03 pm

um youve blitz tunneled me on occasions when i was town so your reading ability needs to be fucking checked

and you better just not ignore that shit like that why the fuck you ducking me

Zachstralkita · Post Post #330 (isolation #28) » Sat Oct 01, 2016 1:14 pm

You know exactly what the fuck I'm talking about though. Stop playing dumb

Zachstralkita · Post Post #374 (isolation #29) » Sun Oct 02, 2016 5:46 am

In post 358, TwoFace wrote:
In post 355, Nosferatu wrote:
In post 349, TwoFace wrote:1. You shouldn't ever care why somebody wants you dead.
Are you aware that scum's goal in the game known as mafia, is to mislynch town during the day? Given this, it's pretty likely that if you're being lynched, scum is involved, and it's your duty as town to at least find out the arguments to see if they're legit in any way. Cause if they're not, and you say so, not only do you have a chance of someone else realizing it too, and thereby not dying, you also have a good chance of catching scum.

Why shouldn't you care if someone wants to lynch you? The sentiment makes zero sense.
No it's not my job to find out who's lying about me. It's the other townies job. I can't remember if it was this game or not where I explained it so I will again. In my experience, especially with me in particular when I try to disprove arguments against me people, myself included are often ignored, called defensive or dismissive and any counter attacks are disregarded as omgus. So no a townie shouldn't worry about the lies that are being said about them. A townie should just play to their win condition which is to find and lynch scum.

Speak for yourself guy, no man will spout falsehoods about me in good faith. we can run those hands.

Zachstralkita · Post Post #379 (isolation #30) » Sun Oct 02, 2016 6:20 am

that's pretty circumstantial though. I'm not one to take absolute stances on much of anything, really.

Zachstralkita · Post Post #402 (isolation #31) » Sun Oct 02, 2016 2:20 pm

hey folks how are the space rations

Zachstralkita · Post Post #423 (isolation #32) » Mon Oct 03, 2016 7:19 am

In post 415, massive wrote:
Zach is null because I can never read this stupid
Radiant Cowbells playstyle
that seems to be all the rage with the kids these days.

I just took the worst L of my life

Zachstralkita · Post Post #489 (isolation #33) » Mon Oct 03, 2016 1:13 pm

Dunn you're a fraud

Zachstralkita · Post Post #490 (isolation #34) » Mon Oct 03, 2016 1:17 pm

@grapes I would but I told you before Dunns stupidity is NAI to me

massive is still scum

besides the whole sigmund nietzsche color shit he pops back in like everythings normal and tosses some reads to appease the people

I think it's time we stabbed Caesar to death when he's not expecting it

Zachstralkita · Post Post #491 (isolation #35) » Mon Oct 03, 2016 1:21 pm

you really fake as fuck tho dunn

Zachstralkita · Post Post #501 (isolation #36) » Tue Oct 04, 2016 3:06 am

The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence

Zachstralkita · Post Post #531 (isolation #37) » Tue Oct 04, 2016 6:53 am

Dunnstral wrote:
In post 523, massive wrote:I'd probably look at the people trying to either brush aside the "psychology" reasoning (a la Zach) or the people pushing me as a counterwagon (a la Zach) .. HEY WAIT A MINUTE

Is massive implying that his reasoning was genuine? That's adorable.

Dunnstral wrote:I quoted another game where Zach was scum and got ignored

Yeah u fucking snake of course you would reach like that because you can't lynch me otherwise

Zachstralkita · Post Post #548 (isolation #38) » Tue Oct 04, 2016 7:38 am

dunnstral isn't even trying to gamesolve..wtf

Zachstralkita · Post Post #557 (isolation #39) » Tue Oct 04, 2016 7:46 am

In post 524, itlepip wrote:btw two face if you are actually flipping coins for this stuff I will make sure you don't endgame.

What exactly is up your ass so far that you have to promise a guy death for a quirk?

the argument can't be made that by leaving things to chance he promotes an anti-town agenda, especially when he has his own reads and views on the game that aren't decided by a flip.

Dunnstral wrote:
Zachstralkita wrote:dunnstral isn't even trying to gamesolve..wtf
Seems to be a strange disconnect between you and the thread. I've been gamesolving.

It's cool that you said something and expected it to be true based off sheer willpower, but that's not the case

Zachstralkita · Post Post #560 (isolation #40) » Tue Oct 04, 2016 7:49 am

You decide your lynches based on how easy they are?

Zachstralkita · Post Post #566 (isolation #41) » Tue Oct 04, 2016 7:53 am

Dunnstral wrote:
In post 557, Zachstralkita wrote:It's cool that you said something and expected it to be true based off sheer willpower, but that's not the case
What are your thoughts on Maria?

Why are you asking your #1 scumread who you think is certain scum his thoughts? HOLY FUCK

VOTE: Dunnstral

im sorry grapes

Zachstralkita · Post Post #583 (isolation #42) » Tue Oct 04, 2016 8:02 am

Dunnstral wrote:So you won't give your thoughts on Maria. Noted.

No you piece of shit there is no real reason for a town you to ask me that if you actually believe I'm scum as much as you say you do

you ignored the crux of the statement to avoid answering it while trying to link me and Maria together by implying because I didn't answer your question that there is a connection between us and that I do not HAVE a read for Maria or that I did not give a read because I did not WANT to. All because I chose to call your scummy bullshit out.

aaaaaand no one cares at all about this

Zachstralkita · Post Post #590 (isolation #43) » Tue Oct 04, 2016 8:05 am

Two-Face is not a liability. What in the flying 747 fuck? That's probably one of the most opportunistic things I've ever heard set forth by both Maria and itlepip

Zachstralkita · Post Post #595 (isolation #44) » Tue Oct 04, 2016 8:09 am

In post 591, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 583, Zachstralkita wrote:No you piece of shit there is no real reason for a town you to ask me that if you actually believe I'm scum as much as you say you do
Thought you'd at least respond to it, pretending to be town. You're the one who's sidestepped the question

Except, you know, I am town and you're only doubtcasting me because you're scared.

if Wake was here right now he'd have the good sense to campaign for your total and utter destruction. And people might actually listen to him.

Zachstralkita · Post Post #604 (isolation #45) » Tue Oct 04, 2016 8:27 am

In post 596, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 595, Zachstralkita wrote:Except, you know, I am town and you're only doubtcasting me because you're scared.
Scared of what? You've bandwagoned all game

That's a pretty faulty statement.

TwoFace wrote:
In post 597, MariaR wrote:I know what my issue is and I'll try to fix it from here on out.
so you'll only play newbie games from now on? good idea.

LMFAO

MariaR wrote:UNVOTE:
No point in being stubborn

VOTE: Zach
It's a start.

yep let me just vote the person i was unsure of voting before but now i am certainly going to vote as opposed to my "liability lynch". why? i just got pressured a little

Zachstralkita · Post Post #608 (isolation #46) » Tue Oct 04, 2016 8:32 am

If only that something were going to be productive.

It's okay though Maria, it started raining so I forgive you.

Zachstralkita · Post Post #615 (isolation #47) » Tue Oct 04, 2016 8:51 am

In post 611, MariaR wrote:
In post 610, TwoFace wrote:
In post 607, MariaR wrote:I'm unsure because I haven't seen a town game from you Zach but you're playing like your scum game
Me just holding my vote doesn't seem like a good idea to me atm and I want to do something with it so I am.
why do you use meta so much? meta is terrible and can be manipulated
I agree that's why I voted Zach instead of waiting for a town game I don't think Zach has done much this game or done anything productive the meta for him is a supporting factor

So Dunn

has

been being productive?....

Zachstralkita · Post Post #627 (isolation #48) » Tue Oct 04, 2016 9:18 am

In post 616, MariaR wrote:
In post 615, Zachstralkita wrote:
In post 611, MariaR wrote:
In post 610, TwoFace wrote:
In post 607, MariaR wrote:I'm unsure because I haven't seen a town game from you Zach but you're playing like your scum game
Me just holding my vote doesn't seem like a good idea to me atm and I want to do something with it so I am.
why do you use meta so much? meta is terrible and can be manipulated
I agree that's why I voted Zach instead of waiting for a town game I don't think Zach has done much this game or done anything productive the meta for him is a supporting factor
So Dunn
has
been being productive?....
Where does Dunn come into play during any of this?

Does that answer my question?

Zachstralkita · Post Post #630 (isolation #49) » Tue Oct 04, 2016 9:22 am

You implied your vote on me was because I haven't done much this game or done anything productive in addition to meta.

Now take out the meta part.

If that's what you look for when you read people, Dunn should be at the top of your list. He's just. Tunneled me.

Zachstralkita · Post Post #633 (isolation #50) » Tue Oct 04, 2016 9:28 am

the proper question is how anyone sensible is SRing Zach

Zachstralkita · Post Post #635 (isolation #51) » Tue Oct 04, 2016 9:32 am

I

I'M

just tunneling? lol I hopped on Dunn because he's legitimate scum

Zachstralkita · Post Post #636 (isolation #52) » Tue Oct 04, 2016 9:33 am

and i'm not just posting filler..

Zachstralkita · Post Post #641 (isolation #53) » Tue Oct 04, 2016 11:10 am

itlepip wrote:
Eh rereading this and trying to explain my gut on Zach and not super sure it is coming across. I'll append that I look for trying as a town tell. The reason Dunn is my top town right now is that there are clear spots where he sat down and tried to read someone. Zach basically picked a gimmick from the start about going after Dunn and then reacted to a single post visa a vise massive's color thing. About 10 pages ago Zach was null for these things because it was early. Now we have progressed 10 more pages with a shitload of posts from Zach and all he is doing is coasting on those two things with some 1 post reactions that don't amount to anything. I don't think that Zach has put in any thought to this game, and so either he somehow is town here and needs to get his act together or he is lazy scum and giving him a townpass is absolutely horrible in either case.

Are you sure you didn't read the game with your reverse 3D glasses on? I'm pretty sure Dunn started off the game by going after me.

He was being his usual self (tunneling me is what he does I guess) but it was only 566 that I couldn't abide by. Before that I wasn't really willing to vote him, just tried to.. ignore it.. and even if I didn't state all of them I had other options. It wasn't him asking questions that was scummy, it was the intention behind the question. Key detail.

And then you picked out a bunch of stuff to portray that all my posts were like that. Not the case. If people would take the time read my posts they would see a lot of filler, sure. But not the case.

that is not " all I'm doing." and you wouldn't know exactly what I AM doing since you're not inside my head. you only have an opinion. I do not make the whole of my thought processes open.

Zachstralkita · Post Post #642 (isolation #54) » Tue Oct 04, 2016 11:15 am

LOL dunn gimmick thing

Zachstralkita · Post Post #646 (isolation #55) » Tue Oct 04, 2016 11:42 am

i am not asking you to do that. in any case, I'll start making more content heavy posts in the near future so you wouldn't have to

Zachstralkita · Post Post #670 (isolation #56) » Tue Oct 04, 2016 2:30 pm

gerry, what was your read on massive?

Zachstralkita · Post Post #737 (isolation #57) » Wed Oct 05, 2016 8:02 am

In post 706, TwoFace wrote:If I were scum it Limits mislynch opportunities. If you have 2 townie you think aren't ever gong to let the other get lynched or even consider is scum that hurts scums chances. It also limits the mislynch pool if they are successful in preventing the lymches to happen. Plus neither of them are people I'd ever nk

Can people stop considering TwoFace as a lynch now, and in an orderly fashion?

can gerryoat input on stuff? Last time I checked he just popped in to argue with TwoFace for a bit then dipped...

Zachstralkita · Post Post #742 (isolation #58) » Wed Oct 05, 2016 8:20 am

a gimmick ?

In post 198, massive wrote:Hey Naomi, I'm prolly gonna vote you but uh what made townies go from Blue (78) to Green (above)?

In post 210, massive wrote:
In post 200, TwoFace wrote:
In post 198, massive wrote:Hey Naomi, I'm prolly gonna vote you but uh what made townies go from Blue (78) to Green (above)?
why did that color thing matter?
Because it seemed arbitrary, and more like she'd remember the "color" she actually was and not what she was calling the other team.

In post 201, Naomi-Tan wrote: Someone pointed out that town generally have green role pm's (such as on the starting post and every other game on the website XD) just made more logical sense.
VOTE: Naomi-tan

They did it in your scum thread.

In post 213, massive wrote:I'm not buying it. If your role PM was green, you wouldn't be calling town "blue" at any point. You even looked at the front page to make Post 79 and couldn't get it right. This is the first game where you've decided on this arbitrary color association, so there's obviously some reason you're associating "scum" with "red" and don't have any idea what color town should be.

If you actually sincerely believe this shit right here is credible and

doesn't

deserve rope then I'm not sure what to tell you at all, Mr. MIT Graduate.

Zachstralkita · Post Post #743 (isolation #59) » Wed Oct 05, 2016 8:21 am

However everyone thinks I'm a fucking lunatic so I have opted to lynch Dunn. Who is also scum.

Zachstralkita · Post Post #744 (isolation #60) » Wed Oct 05, 2016 8:21 am

I already went into why I changed my vote, before you say it was for lack of traction.

Zachstralkita · Post Post #857 (isolation #61) » Thu Oct 06, 2016 10:51 am

In post 788, massive wrote:I don't like my prospective company on the Zach wagon, so I guess I need to go back to trying to convince people to vote for Naomi again.

VOTE: Naomi-Tan

Oh, that's cool.

Naomi-Tan wrote: I'm not sure how to answer the top three. so.. I'm just gonna answer the bottom one. Asking for a read list shows you care and wish to understand how other people think which doesn't have any Red! motivation. As you are trying to work out the game it gives Green Credit. Likewise Toto's read list showed he was trying to work out the game and made him more green. in comparison MariaR's Read list didn't help her as there was no reasons given and I couldn't dig into it.

Ummm.. Umm..

This isn't

entirely

true.

Zachstralkita · Post Post #867 (isolation #62) » Thu Oct 06, 2016 1:04 pm

you cant dodge this rope dunn try and act like its not COMING

Zachstralkita · Post Post #869 (isolation #63) » Thu Oct 06, 2016 1:04 pm

In post 868, TwoFace wrote:I'd be ok with a Dunn lynch if people aren't going to lynch Gerry or massive which it seems is likely for idk why

are we the only two people who SR massive

Zachstralkita · Post Post #872 (isolation #64) » Thu Oct 06, 2016 1:19 pm

How are you calling something that wasn't even a slip a slip

And

you

were the one that did it

Zachstralkita · Post Post #875 (isolation #65) » Fri Oct 07, 2016 2:28 am

" mistake "

or " that time everyone said i slipped but i didn't -- fuck off, guys"

would have been acceptable

Zachstralkita · Post Post #929 (isolation #66) » Sun Oct 09, 2016 10:42 am

Dunn is most likely just scum trying to bullshit his way out of this

Zachstralkita · Post Post #930 (isolation #67) » Sun Oct 09, 2016 10:43 am

he himself said there's 2/3 of the scum on his little wagon lol .....ya ok

Zachstralkita · Post Post #935 (isolation #68) » Sun Oct 09, 2016 1:10 pm

I'm being lazy as hell by the way even tho I said I wouldnt let me just recuperate

Zachstralkita · Post Post #937 (isolation #69) » Sun Oct 09, 2016 1:22 pm

I'm contemplating on keeping that one tbh i dont know how i feel

Zachstralkita · Post Post #940 (isolation #70) » Sun Oct 09, 2016 1:46 pm

;x cx :> <: l:^) 8) c8

Zachstralkita · Post Post #954 (isolation #71) » Mon Oct 10, 2016 7:37 am

In post 952, massive wrote:I went back and actually read Naomi's wall (because honestly I thought she had decided grapes was the scum on her wagon, not Xkyfu) and man, there is a whole lot of confbias in her "roleplaying" in that post. Almost like she knew she needed to call someone on her wagon scum, and worked to fit the narrative to that.

Strangely enough, the way you described that is almost like you're twisting the narrative to make her post look scummier than it was.

By placing herself in someone else's perspective she's obviously not going to be doing just that. She's only doing it to the best of her ability. It's almost a given that there would be some sort of bias within that post, because she's still being herself and doesn't really fully know how said players react naturally to said situations. Really sounds like you're doubtcasting here. Probably because you are.

Okay, let's call the play here. No one apparently sees how scummy Massive is, that TwoFace/gerryoat debate was either largely useless or elaborate scum theatre(unlikely, I like TwoFace),no one really pays attention to people like Xkfyu and Toto who just POP in and POP out, Naomi is still blatant town and people are still trying to read her, Dunn garners towncred by existing apparently no matter how scummy he is, in fact itlepip has given him an obligatory defense, and Nosferatu disappeared like my dad when he went to go get cigarettes 20 years ago.

No one gives a shit about this tho, but Zach is scum. Okay. Zach is supposed to will forth the energy to dispel this bullshit, but he cannot.

Yes Maria, I'm playing scum

exactly

like I did last time, where I just appeared and got townreads out the ass- wait a fucking minute.

Let's have some depth here.

Zachstralkita · Post Post #957 (isolation #72) » Mon Oct 10, 2016 7:47 am

grapes is the only one being semi-reasonable about this.

Zachstralkita · Post Post #976 (isolation #73) » Mon Oct 10, 2016 12:49 pm

In post 967, massive wrote: Come on Zach, even YOU can't agree with this.

Dunno bruh I think Naomi's character (or actual person) brings a refreshing burst of vibrant positive energy to this devoid and soulless piece of shit of a world we have to carry out our meaningless existences in

Zachstralkita · Post Post #995 (isolation #74) » Tue Oct 11, 2016 4:07 am

AYY its yung panther

In post 986, Toto wrote:Nevermind, I think he has been consistent about his Dunn read. I'll let him explain, though.

If we are not going to lynch Zach or Dunn I suggest lynching Naomi. It is not because I think she is particularly scum. I find her posts too long and run out of energy to read them mid way so I still have mixed-feelings about her.

My main problem with Naomi is the following: she is the reason the town is divided. There seems to be a group that thinks Naomi is scum because of the red-blue thing. There is another group that thinks that those that think so must be scum. I say let's flip her and work it backwards from there, at least we can put the discussion at rest and move on and try to get some consensus.

you're presenting her as the catalyst to all this and that's why you want her lynched? That's even worse.

Zachstralkita · Post Post #1015 (isolation #75) » Tue Oct 11, 2016 7:13 am

In post 1002, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 990, PantherPunt wrote:dunn and zach crossvoting is spicy. that makes me lean toward one of the two being scum as I know directly from them that they reach each other well and have played many games together
And then you realize Zach is voting me because I voted him

except you were voting me practically since game start? I only voted you when it became very obvious that you were scum lol

Zachstralkita · Post Post #1016 (isolation #76) » Tue Oct 11, 2016 7:14 am

In post 1013, gerryoat wrote:
In post 996, itlepip wrote:I've already said why Dunn is my top town, his thought process is super transparent and really easy to see town mentality

I think it's pip and zach maf team right now.

LOOOOOOOL YA GOON

Zachstralkita · Post Post #1019 (isolation #77) » Tue Oct 11, 2016 7:17 am

In post 997, PantherPunt wrote:

the quoted post from toto is towny imho. it's not often you're going to see scum say "I suggest we lynch X and I don't really think she's that scummy"

I disagree, Pantherino. all he's doing is attempting to absolve himself of responsibility by claiming that he doesn't even SR her.

The objective is to lynch scum here. Ergo if you don't think someone's scum, why are you lynching them? Naomi hasn't been disruptive at all to warrant a lynch. It's not her or my fault that people want to act so wacky about it.

Zachstralkita · Post Post #1020 (isolation #78) » Tue Oct 11, 2016 7:18 am

.............please lynch dunn

Zachstralkita · Tue Oct 11, 2016 11:01 am

Holy shit Dunn is dodging so hard and Somehow the rope is just avoiding him you guys it's just dandy apparently

I'm a fan of Panther btw

Zachstralkita · Tue Oct 11, 2016 12:12 pm

In post 1115, PantherPunt wrote:
In post 1113, Dunnstral wrote:I'm not. The answer is really that simple: he's scum because he's not playing like he does as town, and I can tell that
How does he play as town?

What's missing here/ what's here that isn't in his town game?

Dunnstral wrote:Tone

hows my man getting away with this

Zachstralkita · Tue Oct 11, 2016 12:28 pm

TwoFace wrote: How many games would you say he's correctly read you?

1 or 0 out of several

I think I'll be nice and throw him a 2 it looks better on paper

Zachstralkita · Tue Oct 11, 2016 12:37 pm

That's uh there's a scientific term for that that's uh bias.. he's obviously just unwilling to admit it. But Dunn is wrong about me a good fuckton of the time. I literally cannot recall one time off the top where he was right.

Zachstralkita · Tue Oct 11, 2016 12:37 pm

but this shit right HERE now we have him caught and i cannot let him escape

Zachstralkita · Post Post #1136 (isolation #84) » Tue Oct 11, 2016 1:39 pm

Which ones was he right on? I know he was right in 1787

MariaR wrote:VOTE: Zach

I forgive you

Zachstralkita · Post Post #1138 (isolation #85) » Tue Oct 11, 2016 1:41 pm

I'll let you catch this mean fade boy

Zachstralkita · Post Post #1140 (isolation #86) » Tue Oct 11, 2016 1:42 pm

TwoFace wrote:Newbie game

He tunneled me Day 2 of that game LMFAO when I was VT

Zachstralkita · Post Post #1144 (isolation #87) » Tue Oct 11, 2016 1:48 pm

Dunnstral wrote:You claimed vt randomly then claimed doctor and the real doctor got lynched

Just lay off

You forgot the part where you said I was either scum or doctor

before I fakeclaimed doctor because you thought I softed doc the whole game when I didn't.

You just got lucky in Halcyon Lmfao.

TwoFace peep NY 196 to see the full EXTENT of Dunn's fuckery.

Zachstralkita · Post Post #1145 (isolation #88) » Tue Oct 11, 2016 1:48 pm

Dunn should have your account on the real he just be flippin coins to decide how he reads me

it must be a fuckin one sided coin

Zachstralkita · Post Post #1155 (isolation #89) » Tue Oct 11, 2016 2:56 pm

you didnt frag any mafia im sure

you killed like the towniest people

Zachstralkita · Post Post #1173 (isolation #90) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 4:41 am

Panther come on bruh you really think an itlepip wagon will take off...

I'd rather not let Dunn weasel his way out of this one, I think I'm pretty on point with this one

Zachstralkita · Post Post #1178 (isolation #91) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 4:45 am

like more than I've ever been with him. if I'm wrong i give two fucks what you guys do to me , I've been like a default vote anyway

Zachstralkita · Post Post #1180 (isolation #92) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 4:46 am

I have witnessed people just vote me for lack of a better option

I said that because I bet any amount of money that whatever shitty claim gets thrown out will be accepted by you guys.

Zachstralkita · Post Post #1213 (isolation #93) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 7:14 am

what is a runaway wagon

Zachstralkita · Post Post #1214 (isolation #94) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 7:15 am

In post 1194, PantherPunt wrote:
it has had a lot of time to build, but the lack of a counter still gives me pause. unless zach is the counter scum were going for..but you'd think they'd have another option among the pool of 10 that more people might be willing to vote.

plenty of people are willing to vote old zach

Zachstralkita · Post Post #1224 (isolation #95) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 7:35 am

In post 1217, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 1173, Zachstralkita wrote:I'd rather not let Dunn weasel his way out of this one, I think I'm pretty on point with this one
You literally omgus voted me

No I didn't you clown if I OMGUS voted you I would have voted you right after you voted me simply for voting me.

Are you all just going to fucking ignore how he's lying?

Zachstralkita · Post Post #1226 (isolation #96) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 7:37 am

did this guy just claim neighbor..

to no one

Zachstralkita · Post Post #1229 (isolation #97) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 7:39 am

...........................it's still fake most def

he literally has no path of organization at all. he only wants to lynch me because it's the only way he gets saved.

Zachstralkita · Post Post #1236 (isolation #98) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 8:02 am

...........

Zachstralkita · Post Post #1247 (isolation #99) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 8:11 am

Panther the torch has been ousted and thrown into a fucking kiddie pool

Zachstralkita · Wed Oct 12, 2016 8:12 am

In post 1242, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 1240, TwoFace wrote:You said you read zach well. That was proven false.
No it wasn't. You were wrong on at least two of those. It came out to something like me being right 4 times and wrong once

Are you smoking dust? You were wrong at least 3 times

Zachstralkita · Wed Oct 12, 2016 8:17 am

In post 1252, MariaR wrote:
In post 1251, Naomi-Tan wrote:I voted you beacuse between you or zach I thought you was least useful over all.. I find Zach much easier to read.
Rly?!?!?!

You find Zach much easier to read too apparently because I'm scum right Maria

Dunnstral wrote:
In post 1254, PantherPunt wrote:didn't have any posts to pull to grill him on
Lol.

Zach + Panther team; toto might be town after all

..............

Come on guys Dunn got his claim off the bottom of a Snapple cap and .......... and he's still doing that thing that he does..

Zachstralkita · Wed Oct 12, 2016 8:43 am

You tried to wagon me like 4 times with the same rationale you're using this game..

Zachstralkita · Wed Oct 12, 2016 9:10 am

Dunnstral wrote:Hey Panther, you're really hung up over me. Do you still intend to lynch me today? If not, you're just fillering and avoiding picking a lynch while the deadline ticks down

we have like 18 hours, and I'm not going to be around for the end of that

You're pretty hung up over me

Zachstralkita · Wed Oct 12, 2016 10:11 am

@Dunnstral

Zachstralkita · Wed Oct 12, 2016 10:36 am

panther why if you tr me is zach an option

is dunns word supposed to be law just because his claim is believed or...

id be down for itlepip or massive definitely.

Zachstralkita · Wed Oct 12, 2016 1:29 pm

I got u Panthstral

VOTE: itlepip

Zachstralkita · Sat Oct 15, 2016 5:27 am

In post 1453, PantherPunt wrote:looks like zach and maria are scum together

PantherPunt wrote:
In post 1453, PantherPunt wrote:looks like zach and maria are scum together
just so everyone is clear, zach was online at 27 minutes til lynch. maria wagon was only one viable. didn't post.

Panther, what the hell?

To clarify, I was probably online at this point but I wasn't actively looking at this thread. I was doing some other shit as well. I normally have this tab open and still refresh occasionally if I'm doing something. I didn't even see most of the wagon switch on here though.

Anyways, what you're implying here that me scum is that I watched this whole situation unfold, and that Maria was my partner(lol) but rather than bus knowing full well the implications of a nolynch I still decided to not do anything at all. LMAO

Despite the fact that that's now proven false, I'm still mentioning it because the way you implied that so easily without thinking of the fact that I would have to actively condemn myself as well for me to be scum here.

Which was easily like the worst thing you've done the whole game... besides not lynching Dunn. You seemed a bit too eager to blame me.

Zachstralkita · Sat Oct 15, 2016 5:30 am

I guess it was kinda good that I wasn't here. Looking back we had the potential to have 3 townie deaths.

Zachstralkita · Mon Oct 17, 2016 4:04 am

What the fuck did I walk back into

VOTE: Dunn

we have practically conf scum??

Zachstralkita · Mon Oct 17, 2016 4:26 am

how are u guys letting this man speak that way.....

Zachstralkita · Mon Oct 17, 2016 4:30 am

He is faking probably.

I know if I did that you all would be speedlynching me.

His decent skills as an orator are the fragile threads preventing his existence from being obliterated

aside from that clearly you know manufactured push on Panther and I

Zachstralkita · Mon Oct 17, 2016 11:18 am

In post 1613, gerryoat wrote:Dunn is mafia lol. You guys need to stop being so scared, he isn't a friendly neighbor. why the hell would he be RB'd

^^

also no way grapes is red lol

Zachstralkita · Tue Oct 18, 2016 7:16 am

PantherPunt wrote:
In post 1591, Zachstralkita wrote:What the fuck did I walk back into

VOTE: Dunn

we have practically conf scum??

In post 1596, Zachstralkita wrote:He is faking probably.

I know if I did that you all would be speedlynching me.

His decent skills as an orator are the fragile threads preventing his existence from being obliterated

aside from that clearly you know manufactured push on Panther and I
these are bad

Your vote on grapes is worse by a considerable margin

Zachstralkita · Tue Oct 18, 2016 7:21 am

Does no one also care how bad dunn is misrepping panthers pov on me and also managing to associate us......

along with the many other things dunn has misrepped

Zachstralkita · Tue Oct 18, 2016 7:30 am

Dunnstral wrote:
In post 1689, Zachstralkita wrote:along with the many other things dunn has misrepped
Go on

all i know is that you post a lot in succession and also somehow make it look like you're doing something. you also insist on not using periods(rarely commas) but never forgoing capital letters

and it works. none of them want to lynch you anymore

You've somehow managed to even damage the credibility of gerryoat (whose credibility was fine. except in the eyes of twoface) simply because we know you're scum..

Xkfyu wrote:
In post 1683, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 1663, PantherPunt wrote:
In post 1598, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 1597, Naomi-Tan wrote:
@Mod; In the hypothetical situation that a messenger was roleblocked during this can would they be informed that there action failed?

Can you clarify what you mean by "messenger"?
Speculative - mod not knowing what Naomi is referring to here is a bad look.

It also is pretty modspewy that Naomi is town. Sorry I'm not sorry for the angleshot.
Bad look for who? Also I disagree that this is indicative from the mod
I could see how it could look "modspewy" ....but only if you already knew that Naomi is town.

aaaaaaaaand we have an opportunistic post here from xkfyu

Zachstralkita · Tue Oct 18, 2016 7:33 am

There wasn't anything AI about the way Panther responded to that.

Zachstralkita · Tue Oct 18, 2016 7:40 am

Now notice how everything you just said in that sentence is nothing close to what I said.

Zachstralkita · Tue Oct 18, 2016 7:46 am

In post 1699, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 1694, Zachstralkita wrote:all i know is that you post a lot in succession and also somehow make it look like you're doing something. you also insist on not using periods(rarely commas) but never forgoing capital letters

and it works. none of them want to lynch you anymore

You've somehow managed to even damage the credibility of gerryoat (whose credibility was fine. except in the eyes of twoface) simply because we know you're scum..

LOL

Yeah me posting in succession and "not using commas" (I do) is me "misrepping" votes off of me'

not my argument

Also, you act as if I manufactured this Gerry wagon and pushed him but that's so untrue

not my argument

And people are still going to listen to you. You have to tell me how you do it.

Zachstralkita · Tue Oct 18, 2016 7:51 am

Xkfyu wrote:
In post 1697, Zachstralkita wrote:There wasn't anything AI about the way Panther responded to that.
I don't know about YOU, but I certainly didn't see it as modspewy.

What you said was that one could only see it as such if they knew said player is town.

So you are claiming Panther is scum?

I don't believe that's a good basis to make that statement on, though.

Zachstralkita · Wed Oct 19, 2016 9:51 am

Fuck let me skim

and no panther, no gerryoat lynch

Zachstralkita · Wed Oct 19, 2016 9:57 am

only xk to be honest

I have to say, I am not a fan of how he's posted today
even massive has been kinda meh

Zachstralkita · Wed Oct 19, 2016 9:59 am

ya dunns finna blitz u again like he did that one game

Zachstralkita · Wed Oct 19, 2016 10:07 am

you both are disgusting

panther, dunn scum here does not need to look towny town town. he only needs to look town.

dunn is shamelessly speaking on how far away he's presumably playing from his scum meta. as if he is ignorant to how malleable meta is in terms of playstyle.

this is stupidity(dunn trait)

or blatant scumminess(dunn gene)

but its ok cause.. its ok

maybe ____'s right and panther dunn are 2/3

Zachstralkita · Wed Oct 19, 2016 10:23 am

In post 1775, PantherPunt wrote:
In post 1613, gerryoat wrote:Dunn is mafia lol. You guys need to stop being so scared, he isn't a friendly neighbor. why the hell would he be RB'd
gerry do you understand now why he, if he was a friendly neighbor, would be a good target to be roleblocked?

Let's address this for a second.

Why would scum opt to roleblock a would-be confirmed role? If the chance of that role being lynched was not absolutely certain?

Like let's say he is a friendly neighbor. Scum would still have to deal with him because

1) He is potentially conf green

2) Everyone knows who he is.

Just a scenario here, but they didn't attempt to NK Dunn?

With those two points into consideration, he should be scum's public enemy number one. Even now he still is, because the identity of the shooter(who I'm assuming to be vig) is not known.

But they didn't NK him. They roleblocked him and assumed he would be lynched perhaps? Which is faulty to begin with. With Dunn's lynch being less and less likely as we continue, it should follow that he is their next kill. Despite potential protection.

Or, Dunn is scum.

Lot of variables and stuff. But I guess the main point I'm making here is that my scumread who was supposed to " confirm" himself was roleblocked in the most convenient fashion. And somehow itlepip winds up dead. And you are all fine with this.

Not saying I didn't expect it, but I didn't expect it.

Dunnstral wrote:
In post 1789, Zachstralkita wrote:maybe ____'s right and panther dunn are 2/3
You think me and panther are hard bussing?

Possible. I saw him buy you that waffle cone you slick son of a bitch. That's probably why.

Zachstralkita · Wed Oct 19, 2016 10:33 am

You know what I'm not gonna front I actually forgot my guy's exact wirds were "I claim PR"

can't say I took him seriously at the time lmfao

Zachstralkita · Wed Oct 19, 2016 10:36 am

@Naomi-Tan must I revert to the cat ears again for you to take up arms for my cause

Zachstralkita · Wed Oct 19, 2016 1:21 pm

blocking to set up for lynch is only optimal if lynch happens or is close to. derrrr.

Zachstralkita · Wed Oct 19, 2016 1:26 pm

might as well just change your name to PocketPunt my guy

Dunnstral wrote:Don't act like I wasn't close to getting lynched

once again you have misunderstood the context of my post

but you were close to getting lynched d1 , yes, that's why you fakeclaimed.

Zachstralkita · Wed Oct 19, 2016 1:27 pm

though I will admit on the 5% margin that he has not fakeclaimed I have wasted my entire game.

then again so has dunn because im Towny McTownpants

Zachstralkita · Thu Oct 20, 2016 7:42 am

Xkfyu wrote:
In post 1799, Zachstralkita wrote:Lot of variables and stuff. But I guess the main point I'm making here is that my scumread who was supposed to " confirm" himself was roleblocked in the most convenient fashion. And somehow itlepip winds up dead. And you are all fine with this.
Yes, very much so.

Town Dunn being roleblocked is the best case scenario for scum.

The danger in a Friendly Neighbor being alive increases the longer he remains alive, due to the nature of the role.

Removing his ability to visit anyone every night not only removes that danger, but also puts a lot of suspicion on the FN, since no one is every visited, and therefore no one can ever confirm him. Resulting in his inevitable lynch.

Now, as scum, he would still never be able to be confirmed by anyone. Still resulting in his inevitable lynch.

It's such a ridiculous fake claim that it doesn't even warrant discussion. Dunn is town. Move along to your next attempted mislynch please.

How much shit do I get to talk when you get proven wrong?

Zachstralkita · Thu Oct 20, 2016 7:45 am

In post 1870, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 1866, grapes wrote:I pushed you day 1 before any of this shit happened you recall.
Because I was pushing Zach. Who is very likely scum.

THE most bullshit push ever

Zachstralkita · Thu Oct 20, 2016 10:27 am

Not sure how what I said before is clueless. When you take into account that it makes zero sense that friendly neighbor Dunn is alive.

if itlepip claimed pr why did that kill still happen? you would think there would be some reasonable fear or protection, in which case maybe Dunn would be that NK because scum would take the not obvious route. But no. itlepip was killed without recourse. which means there is quite possibly no protective role or said role is a shithead.

but the second killer being a vig makes sense setup wise if there is no doctor

Act oblivious if you want. Consider me oblivious which is the easier option.

If you want to explain how hard defending Dunn and lynching gerryoat/grapes ISN'T clueless, be my guest.

If you also want to explain away Dunn developing a scumread on anyone who happens to point out his scummy actions you can do that too.

Besides dunn who is scum I have a scumread on xk due to the way he pushes his rhetoric. I do not believe it comes from a town pov.

lurkers also deserve attn.
particularly fucking nosferatu. yeah. he's in this game.

Zachstralkita · Thu Oct 20, 2016 11:42 am

In post 1993, Dunnstral wrote:Can't wrap my head around Toto's post

come on now you just want to say you scumread him without proving me right

Zachstralkita · Fri Oct 21, 2016 8:31 am

In post 2000, Xkfyu wrote:
In post 1986, Zachstralkita wrote:Not sure how what I said before is clueless. When you take into account that it makes zero sense that friendly neighbor Dunn is alive.

if itlepip claimed pr why did that kill still happen? you would think there would be some reasonable fear or protection, in which case maybe Dunn would be that NK because scum would take the not obvious route. But no. itlepip was killed without recourse. which means there is quite possibly no protective role or said role is a shithead.

but the second killer being a vig makes sense setup wise if there is no doctor

Act oblivious if you want. Consider me oblivious which is the easier option.

If you want to explain how hard defending Dunn and lynching gerryoat/grapes ISN'T clueless, be my guest.

If you also want to explain away Dunn developing a scumread on anyone who happens to point out his scummy actions you can do that too.

Besides dunn who is scum I have a scumread on xk due to the way he pushes his rhetoric. I do not believe it comes from a town pov.

lurkers also deserve attn.
particularly fucking nosferatu. yeah. he's in this game.
If I was a doctor, I would have definitely protected Dunn over pip last night.

so .... why am I insane

Zachstralkita · Fri Oct 21, 2016 8:31 am

" talking nomsense " lol

Zachstralkita · Fri Oct 21, 2016 8:45 am

TwoFace wrote:
In post 2041, PantherPunt wrote:
In post 2035, TwoFace wrote:I probably wouldn't object to a toto lynch
then you're playing bad
Well I already said I wasn't playing a great game and the people who are most deserving of a lynch aren't getting lynched. Toto is kind of meh to me and his argument about Dunn/grapes are both scum is one I can't see coming from town.

How does that logic work? Is his conclusion scummy just because it's one you wouldn't have reached?

Zachstralkita · Sun Oct 23, 2016 12:27 pm

Yoo my fault

Zachstralkita · Mon Oct 24, 2016 1:38 am

In post 2079, Naomi-Tan wrote:Im catching up right now. but I got a question for Zach. I would like you to research a Red!X and Red!Massive connection while I read up and post the results. I am also starting to get suspicious of massive and I still think X is red from yesterday. So.. could you do some leg work while I read up thanks.

When I get home I got u

Zachstralkita · Mon Oct 24, 2016 8:14 am

In post 2079, Naomi-Tan wrote:Im catching up right now. but I got a question for Zach. I would like you to research a Red!X and Red!Massive connection while I read up and post the results. I am also starting to get suspicious of massive and I still think X is red from yesterday. So.. could you do some leg work while I read up thanks.

I find it interesting that you asked that. I have scumreads on both of them, but if I have anything to say it would be that with the way massive plays I don't think he can be linked to anyone. Especially not in a way that seems like they would be scum.

I tend not to look too hard at partner stuff when we don't even have a red flip because I've had bad experiences with that before. Plus I said before that I don't exactly know for sure if how a player presents themselves via posts is constructed in such a way to maybe influence people either to create associations or distance themselves from certain players. And if you go off of what you think like that it can be stupid.

Zachstralkita · Mon Oct 24, 2016 8:51 am

Seriously guys where are your fucking FACULTIES.

gerryoat is town

Zachstralkita · Mon Oct 24, 2016 9:00 am

Xkfyu wrote:
In post 2126, Zachstralkita wrote:Seriously guys where are your fucking FACULTIES.

gerryoat is town
Who, besides Dunn, do you want to lynch then?

take a guess buddy

massive wrote:Considering you've done nothing but tunnel on Dunn and miss obvious reasons why night actions happened the way they likely did, I'm not sure even YOU can expect us to trust you on that one.

I don't think any of you are going to trust me even after you lynch 42 townies.

Zachstralkita · Mon Oct 24, 2016 9:10 am

Xkfyu wrote:
In post 2129, Zachstralkita wrote:take a guess buddy
Naomi?

I blame me. I should have stopped you before you got started... like a killswitch

Naomi-Tan wrote:
In post 2126, Zachstralkita wrote:Seriously guys where are your fucking FACULTIES.

gerryoat is town
why is oat town? I can't think of anything spectacular off the top of my head.

specifically the twoface interaction on day 1 ( i think it was twoface)

and the general fact that he.. hasn't.. done anything scummy?

Zachstralkita · Mon Oct 24, 2016 1:44 pm

In post 2139, TwoFace wrote:
In post 2135, Zachstralkita wrote:and the general fact that he.. hasn't.. done anything scummy?
But he did.

He accused me of doing something that his scum read of the time (massive) did. He ignored massive and kept attacking me. I showed him over and over again that he was accusing the wrong person and he still pushed me. He even quoted massive doing it and still somehow thought that proved his case.

What benefit would that serve him as scum? At all?

Zachstralkita · Mon Oct 24, 2016 1:50 pm

It's not the scummy stupid tho. I would assume it's the "actually believe I'm right" stupid (Dunn stupid) if what you're saying is true

Zachstralkita · Mon Oct 24, 2016 1:55 pm

gerryoat i need you in person to shed some light on this situation

Zachstralkita · Mon Oct 24, 2016 1:58 pm

Is what TwoFace saying what you actually did or not.. and if not why did you not seek to clear up the situation in his mind

I skipped most of reading that when it happened because I thought you guys were TvT

Zachstralkita · Mon Oct 24, 2016 2:21 pm

gerryoat wrote:
In post 2159, Zachstralkita wrote:Is what TwoFace saying what you actually did or not.. and if not why did you not seek to clear up the situation in his mind

I skipped most of reading that when it happened because I thought you guys were TvT
What did he say I did. i'm ignoring him from now on

" But he did.

He accused me of doing something that his scum read of the time (massive) did. He ignored massive and kept attacking me. I showed him over and over again that he was accusing the wrong person and he still pushed me. He even quoted massive doing it and still somehow thought that proved his case.

If that wasn't enough, when I was talking about Maria giving him a free pass because they were friends which was talked about at length, he went and pulled a quote from Naomi saying she was giving somebody (can't even remember who now) a free pass and when I pointed out Naomi didn't say anything about them being friends as the reason, he acted like that was the first time he heard that was my issue.

He was obviously reading so I'm not buying he misinterpreted or misunderstood. It's fake stupidity and is very scummy. It's why massive/Gerry are scum together imo.

If Gerry really was scum reading massive, he would have been all over him. He wasn't. "

Zachstralkita · Wed Oct 26, 2016 5:38 am

In post 2255, gerryoat wrote:
In post 2245, TwoFace wrote:Just throwing this out there that I actually think Gerry/Dunn are scum together. I fee pretty good saying Dunn wasn't roleblocked which is odd as shit statement to make and doesn't really make any sense to me as I say it, but I absolutely believe it to be true unless pip didn't submit a night action
Look at these garbage reads lmao

..but dont u think dunn scum

TwoFace wrote:I'm happy to trade 1 v 1 with scum.

ya but what if you're both town like ive been saying...

Zachstralkita · Wed Oct 26, 2016 5:57 am

TwoFace wrote:Why discuss something that isn't true?

Why blatantly allow your opinion to overshadow a very likely possibility?

Zachstralkita · Wed Oct 26, 2016 6:36 am

there is no SEMBLANCE of self-preservation that comes from scum in his play. Of course you will not see this now. next time be smarter tho.

Zachstralkita · Wed Oct 26, 2016 9:07 am

In post 2314, Xkfyu wrote:UNVOTE: gerryoat

VOTE: massive

I'm still perfectly fine with lynching gerry, but, in all honesty, I guess he's probably town.

VOTE: Xkfyu

Zachstralkita · Wed Oct 26, 2016 9:13 am

In post 2330, grapes wrote:
In post 2298, gerryoat wrote:I targeted itep cause he was my scumread
:/

oh sweet jesus I didn't even see this

seconded :/

Zachstralkita · Wed Oct 26, 2016 9:18 am

Dunn IS prob mafia but you're forgetting that's the lynch I've been pushing and no one's given a fuck about it

Zachstralkita · Wed Oct 26, 2016 1:24 pm

Okay what the fuck

Zachstralkita · Wed Oct 26, 2016 1:36 pm

In post 2431, grapes wrote:
In post 2429, Zachstralkita wrote:Okay what the fuck
No really what's your actual reaction to all of this?

You've been super lame day 2.

Uh everything I wanted to do has been like choo choo train curved, I have been detached though

Zachstralkita · Thu Oct 27, 2016 6:21 am

Zach does not work for me...

Maybe you need ya boy to case Xkfyu

Zachstralkita · Thu Oct 27, 2016 6:28 am

Massive is the only reasonable one on that list

And Nos

PantherPunt wrote:
In post 2556, Zachstralkita wrote:Zach does not work for me...

Maybe you need ya boy to case Xkfyu
reads on:
massive
nos
grapes

GO GO GO GO GO

I'm on my phone bro let me get home lmao

Zachstralkita · Thu Oct 27, 2016 6:38 am

Not really pushing an alternative, I just was commenting on those within PocketPunt's list of lynches

Zachstralkita · Thu Oct 27, 2016 10:33 am

In post 2558, PantherPunt wrote:
In post 2556, Zachstralkita wrote:Zach does not work for me...

Maybe you need ya boy to case Xkfyu
reads on:
massive
nos
grapes

GO GO GO GO GO

massive scum been saying

nos has managed to evade radar and not do shit. I know, I'm one to talk. first game i played with nos, he did exactly that and was scum.

grapes is most definitely town. play is reminiscent of first game we played with each other.

Zachstralkita · Thu Oct 27, 2016 10:34 am

I suppose me telling Panther I was going to wait until I got home implied that there would be depth.

I lied.

Zachstralkita · Sat Oct 29, 2016 6:20 pm

Zachstralkita · Mon Oct 31, 2016 6:14 am

Nice another VT flip

Zachstralkita · Mon Oct 31, 2016 6:21 am

At least reconsider your shitty reads tomorrow guys is all I ask and keep Naomi+grapes alive

Zachstralkita · Wed Nov 02, 2016 6:54 am

nah it means I was right for 2 days bitch

I wouldn't put it past Dunn to jk me to make me look bad. But you got me fucked up

Zachstralkita · Wed Nov 02, 2016 6:54 am

& guess who's not dead still hahaaa

Zachstralkita · Wed Nov 02, 2016 6:56 am

That or he thought I was fake claiming.

Zachstralkita · Wed Nov 02, 2016 7:39 am

TwoFace wrote:
In post 2846, Something_Smart wrote:Zachstralkita (5) - PantherPunt, Xkfyu, grapes, Toto, massive (L-1)
gerryoat (3) - Naomi-Tan, Dunnstral, Nosferatu
sorry zach

this actually doesn't look good for you.

no way scum forces a NL on a townie

I know what it looks like.. it actually makes Nos look worse

TwoFace wrote:zach, where is your vote for Nos?

Oh! Haha! Here it is. This is not suspicious.

VOTE: Nosferatu

Toto wrote:Zach my guess is you are getting shot after we lynch nos today. If you are green you may want to tell us what to do next. Otherwise gg

lynch xk

Zachstralkita · Sat Nov 05, 2016 4:16 am

VOTE: massive

xk is my next bet

Zachstralkita · Sat Nov 05, 2016 6:25 am

PantherPunt wrote:I became a dad n2. A bit earlier than expected

Thinking I'm continuing but possibly slightly sparse for a few days.

also twoface you thought we were just gonna continue to slide past the fact that gerryoat flipped town? huh? huh?

Zachstralkita · Sat Nov 05, 2016 6:36 am

the problem was in his judgement for half the game bud

its ok i know you only wanted to say that so you could insinuate I was doing something wrong

Zachstralkita · Sat Nov 05, 2016 6:53 am

not sure if you're aware of this guy but I was right on Dunn. foh

Zachstralkita · Sat Nov 05, 2016 6:56 am

if i know Dunn i know it would be perfect for him to do this to me. Not like I hold much credibility anyway but there's some decent townies(....grapes) who actually are sensible enough to discern what went on

Zachstralkita · Sat Nov 05, 2016 7:04 am

TwoFace wrote:
In post 2915, Zachstralkita wrote:not sure if you're aware of this guy but I was right on Dunn. foh
And?

"You haven't done shit all game"

If you had did what I said and lynched him day one-day two we could have wasted less time. We're still in the best position now so it doesn't matter but don't act like I wasn't waving this shit in your face since forever and no one did anything about it.

Zachstralkita · Sat Nov 05, 2016 7:04 am

and so was gerry

Zachstralkita · Sat Nov 05, 2016 7:06 am

Are you a robot or something?

You can be town and still commit fuckery

Zachstralkita · Sat Nov 05, 2016 7:12 am

TwoFace wrote:
In post 2918, Zachstralkita wrote:
TwoFace wrote:
In post 2915, Zachstralkita wrote:not sure if you're aware of this guy but I was right on Dunn. foh
And?

"You haven't done shit all game"

If you had did what I said and lynched him day one-day two we could have wasted less time. We're still in the best position now so it doesn't matter but don't act like I wasn't waving this shit in your face since forever and no one did anything about it.
You thought he was scum for saying you were scum. .

Objectively false read my ISO

That's the same thing that HE said

Zachstralkita · Sat Nov 05, 2016 7:14 am

LOL if I scumread Dunn for saying I was scum then I'd scumread him in almost every single game that we're in together because that's all he does

Zachstralkita · Sat Nov 05, 2016 7:16 am

So don't misconstrue what I do then and back out when I state that you're incorrect according to the facts

Zachstralkita · Sat Nov 05, 2016 7:21 am

In post 2922, Xkfyu wrote:
In post 2921, Zachstralkita wrote:Are you a robot or something?

You can be town and still commit fuckery
Commit to what? What are you even talking about?

I cry when angels deserve to die

Zachstralkita · Sat Nov 05, 2016 7:25 am

You said I voted him because he said I was scum. That is not true. I stated what I saw that he was doing that was scummy. What you just said above does nothing to reconcile that.

Zachstralkita · Sat Nov 05, 2016 7:29 am

Oh dear...I do hope that's not how you carry out all your arguments.

Zachstralkita · Sun Nov 06, 2016 5:56 am

Yezzz

VOTE: Xkfyu

Zachstralkita · Sun Nov 06, 2016 8:26 am

In post 2944, TwoFace wrote:Side note is it in bad taste to troll Dunn while he's dead?

It's never in bad taste to troll Dunn

Zachstralkita · Sun Nov 06, 2016 12:07 pm

Your basis falls apart when u realize I'm not scum

Zachstralkita · Sun Nov 06, 2016 12:58 pm

U guys are reaching..

Zachstralkita · Mon Nov 07, 2016 2:20 pm

grapes wrote:Zach same questions.

The play of both of those players has been in such a way that partner interactions are largely irrelevant, if not useless in determining which is scum and which is more scum.

Xk - robotic and methodical in play. I do not see genuine town motivation.

massive - detached. about as detached as I am right now. Except since forever.

Zachstralkita · Mon Nov 07, 2016 2:40 pm

In post 3065, grapes wrote:mafsepia is great btw

ya if you're in 1822

Zachstralkita · Mon Nov 07, 2016 2:56 pm

VOTE: massive

bing

Zachstralkita · Thu Nov 10, 2016 7:26 am

Well that is just an insane conclusion.

VOTE: Xkfyu

Zachstralkita · Thu Nov 10, 2016 7:29 am

Well with the facts at my disposal I can certainly say I was JK'd to frame me.

Zachstralkita · Thu Nov 10, 2016 7:29 am

And I might as well be a fucking picture right now.

Zachstralkita · Thu Nov 10, 2016 7:39 am

It's okay. Pretty sure we're in autowin here as long as you lynch Xk bc grapes has been townread of mine since D1.

Unless Toto finessed

Zachstralkita · Thu Nov 10, 2016 7:44 am

I have seen town grapes and been scum with scum grapes before.

The motivation behind grapes' posts indicates deliberation and not fake gamesolving or the attempt to appear town overtly. Interactions with people are also telling. For example with Maria (I think it was Maria) Day 1.

Zachstralkita · Thu Nov 10, 2016 7:49 am

grapes he's practically conf lol wyd

Zachstralkita · Thu Nov 10, 2016 7:54 am

In post 2849, TwoFace wrote:ok so this should be a very interesting day to say the least.

naomi protected Panther

Dunn JK'd Nos night 1 and Zach n2 and also performed the kills - Killed pip n1 and tried to kill panther n2

gerry blocked pip n1 and nos n2 - given he died this means nos is scum

it also means zach is probably scum given who dunn was jail keeping

VOTE: nos

this should be game over basically

grapes wrote:VOTE: Twoface

Wyd

Zachstralkita · Thu Nov 10, 2016 8:11 am

Zachstralkita · Thu Nov 10, 2016 8:18 am

dude honestly im the type of guy that normally comes up with and believes these types of things but i think you're just going off on tangent rn.

Unless he is gambit mode 1000, what purpose would it serve to power bus both his teammates in terms of victory?

Zachstralkita · Thu Nov 10, 2016 8:19 am

& twoface it makes no sense for grapes to be scum and engaging you like this. None whatsoever.

Zachstralkita · Thu Nov 10, 2016 8:23 am

But if all 3 scum were alive and barring a lucky vig shot, would they not have won by now if TwoFace(hypo) did not throw his teammates under the bus and/or they shaped up their play?