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I do t understand why you think you've been on Gamma for long enough eitherIn post 155, -Grey- wrote:
Because common sense questions annoy me.In post 153, Alisae wrote:Why are you avoiding the question?
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VOTE: asohodel
I don't like how little thought he puts into trying to reach out to people. It sticks out like a sore thumb. Also somone pointed out some good contradictions in 195.
Grey is second on my scum list for being excessively obtuse with asliahe before giving a very meh explanation of his actions. His idea that we should town read him for bringing attention to himself is also a load of crap-
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I'm not sure what point you're trying to make with your nomenclatureIn post 231, Naomi-Tan wrote:
Its called the slayer gambit.In post 229, Flubbernugget wrote:VOTE: asohodel
I don't like how little thought he puts into trying to reach out to people. It sticks out like a sore thumb. Also somone pointed out some good contradictions in 195.
Grey is second on my scum list for being excessively obtuse with asliahe before giving a very meh explanation of his actions. His idea that we should town read him for bringing attention to himself is also a load of crap-
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You're conflating thought with the number of posts in threadIn post 242, Asphodel wrote:In post 229, Flubbernugget wrote:VOTE: asohodel
I don't like how little thought he puts into trying to reach out to people. It sticks out like a sore thumb. Also somone pointed out some good contradictions in 195.
I feel like these should be reversed.
My scum read becomes greater-
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Are you going to back up literally anything you said in this postIn post 265, Asphodel wrote:Flubbernugget, can we go over your first few posts in the game? I feel like a guy with as much game experience as you would be less confused by the fact that early Day 1 reads are pretty weak. I'm also not a fan of your vote on me, seems like you're trying to manufacture reasons to sheep the wagon.
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This is worse "posturing" than me dismissing the whole thread as being on crack?In post 293, Gamma Emerald wrote:
Feels like posturing with the phrasing.In post 289, Flubbernugget wrote:
You're conflating thought with the number of posts in threadIn post 242, Asphodel wrote:In post 229, Flubbernugget wrote:VOTE: asohodel
I don't like how little thought he puts into trying to reach out to people. It sticks out like a sore thumb. Also somone pointed out some good contradictions in 195.
I feel like these should be reversed.
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Why didn't you see much to look into here?In post 333, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:Alisea null$Haven't looked into deeply-
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Good questionIn post 357, Rainbowdash wrote:@Grey - Why do you react with a vote to Ircher saying he is a bad player (which he has number to back up) while ignoring Aspho laying out a scum meta of themselves? Both are self-reflective and you jumped on the far less important one.
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Dude I miss the evidence for this?In post 366, Alisae wrote:Qutie frankly I am calm, collected, and tired. Not freaking out. Press my buttons a bit and I can do that.
Either way, your voting is...I believe the right term is wishywashy?
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Gin's voting style is only worth discussing in this thread if it starts changingIn post 400, -Grey- wrote:
Eh. I gotta agree with this somewhat.In post 397, Alisae wrote:Once again, no real conviction in his voting. To him it honestly doesn't matter.
Not a fan of the unvote because there was no danger of Alisae being flashlynched while he slept.-
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I actually see you poorly handling pressureIn post 418, Alisae wrote:Naomi what does the interaction between me and gin tell you about the both of us?
Like, I dunno if Gin just really doesn't know how to handle pressure and he's townie because he seems genuinely frustrated or if he's scum.
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If I remember the interactions correctly, you seem to have dismissed a decent proportion of your scum read on alisae hereIn post 478, -Grey- wrote:
That's actually a fair point.In post 477, Human Sequencer wrote:I think Alisae's self-conciousness is more likely to come from self-doubting town rather than scum. This is backed up by her lack of confidence in her own read on Gin.
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This is probably where my vote is going after my catch-up. A citation would be niceIn post 521, Gamma Emerald wrote:
That's not a slip, town has done it before.In post 489, -Grey- wrote:
"given" is not an assumption, it's a statement of fact.In post 488, Naomi-Tan wrote:
its not in the rules so Im assuming.In post 483, -Grey- wrote:
How do you know this?In post 482, Naomi-Tan wrote:given that Reds have no day talk
VOTE: Naomi
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You have too many ducks in a row hereIn post 526, Human Sequencer wrote:Gamma is hoping for the town credit when Naomi flips town, and is trying to set up another mislynch for D2.
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Dunnstral was in a neighborhood. Possible info leak thereIn post 543, Gamma Emerald wrote:Subject: Mini Normal 1841 - At The End... (GAME OVER)
This is past experience with daytalk spec. My reaction was not to go "scumslip you know too much", it was to question the statement and see if it came from scum.Dunnstral wrote:scum have an encryptor
Also, this was the entierety of his post. If that was buried in a wall of text I would be more inclined to believe it was a slip. This was pretty obvious setup spec.-
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Pet peeve of mineIn post 551, Ircher wrote:
More buddying and coaching in-thread. Not a good sign after your earlier "slip".In post 549, Naomi-Tan wrote:Okay lets get stop Alisae killing themselves.
Alisae - Okay I know your prob reading this and have gone quiet as you don't know what to make of things. but you should not join my wagon. If you join right now and I flip green they will go back to hounding you and if I flip red they will say that you are my red buddy and joined late as you couldn't see me talking my way out of things and want the green credit.
I don't get this coaching scum tell
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Do you think scum knows 100% what Gamma is doing? I know I don't.In post 569, Ircher wrote:
Just tell us already.In post 564, Gamma Emerald wrote:Once krylea seems caught up enough you all will know what the fuck my deal has been this game.
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Probably scumIn post 582, Human Sequencer wrote:
How does this affect your read on Alisae?In post 578, Flubbernugget wrote:
I actually see you poorly handling pressureIn post 418, Alisae wrote:Naomi what does the interaction between me and gin tell you about the both of us?
Like, I dunno if Gin just really doesn't know how to handle pressure and he's townie because he seems genuinely frustrated or if he's scum.
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You unvoted went to sleep woke up to post but I don't see the vote backIn post 593, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:
I said I blatantly sheep voted her to get a reaction, it worked nonetheless but I'm scum for reaction testing on D1 lolIn post 573, Flubbernugget wrote:
Dude I miss the evidence for this?In post 366, Alisae wrote:Qutie frankly I am calm, collected, and tired. Not freaking out. Press my buttons a bit and I can do that.
Either way, your voting is...I believe the right term is wishywashy?
VOTE: TheRealGin-N-Tonic
In the heat of the moment, it felt like a TvT but I haven't been at home to the point where I can actually take notes on it.-
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Ftr I see Naomi's slip as damning but not confirmingIn post 615, TwoFace wrote:So when Naomi flips scum, grey is possible buddy. To remove a vote off confirmed scum makes no sense from town pov-
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What was so bad about the scumslip thingIn post 751, krylea wrote:
I don't like this. There are tons of other roles that could lead to no-results. This could just give scum easy mislynches. This + your "scumslip" thing earlier really make it seem like you are out for excuses to push lynches.In post 748, -Grey- wrote:Since Gamma claimed Ascetic Enabler, any "no results" results should be insta-lynched because the ascetic(s) is/are scum hiding behind the role.
I'm happy returning to my previous vote.
VOTE: Naomi
At this point I think I am convinced enough to drop the Asphodel thing for the moment - though I'd like to revisit it later.
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Usually tracker, jk, or VTIn post 844, TwoFace wrote:
Scum usually fake claim day 1 when they get run upIn post 809, Human Sequencer wrote:WHY DOES THIS HAPPEN IN EVERY NORMAL I PLAY IN-
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This doesn't require a plan at allIn post 868, Gamma Emerald wrote:The reason I am 180ing is because I have a plan for seeing if Grey is really a cop.-
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Interestingly I kinda town read what he did as poor as the play was. I would expect scum to be a little more careful with how they voteIn post 875, All Alone wrote:I don't like this either. I don't see a town motive for voting someone, and then immediately following it up with a punch-pull like that. When townies vote, regardless of whether it's for lynching, pressure, information, or even just spite, they usually want that vote to have the maximum possible effect. The immediate punch-pull comes off like Asphodel isn't motivated by any of those things. Scums are mush more happy to avoid getting into a fight, and I think that's exactly why Asphodel worded his Flubber vote this way.-
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Ascetic VT fucks with cop investigations and doesn't do much moreIn post 883, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:If an ascetic claims, then that means they're a power role. If you're scum and a town ascetic claims, you just directed the scums kill to our power roles.
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Uhhh you should be getting no result on an ascetic not a guiltyIn post 899, -Grey- wrote:
All scum has to do if I get a guilty is claim to be ascetic.In post 897, Gamma Emerald wrote:I think it's best to state my plan.
No ascetics claim. If Grey claims a result on an ascetic he gets lynched.
That's brilliant.
No. Guilty claims need to be lynched, period. If the guilty flips town, then obviously I'm scum.-
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He has been scumhunting and the whole last like 5 pages have been setup specIn post 946, TwoFace wrote:
It's hard for scum to scumhunt do they have to appear town by doing other thingsIn post 943, Alisae wrote:
Why are you speculating about set ups?In post 941, Ircher wrote:We have a claimed Cop and a claimed Ascetic Enabler.
How does Cop + Another PR + 8 VTs vs. Ascetic Enabler + 2 Goons sound not close to balance?
Matrix6's Cop+Doc + 5 VTs vs. Mafia RB + Mafia Goon is pretty closed to balanced. Being closed and a mini, town would have slightly more power than the matrix6 setup.
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On one hand TwoFace is making a really bad push hereIn post 985, Ircher wrote:
I'll address this later.In post 970, TwoFace wrote:Ircher. Why does your grey read change 180 after he claims? If you're scum reading him before his claim, you should still be scum reading him after.
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My personal favorite is <> because of how many times it made me want to shoot someone when I had to work with visual basic
On a side note, I'm guessing that =/= is a pain in the ass to parse because the most common languages have /= as an operator-
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Assuming he is town, Any other additional information Grey has about his role does not need to be in scums handsIn post 1004, Rainbowdash wrote:@Grey - Last chance to add anything else to your claim that you may have been missing.
Im still convinced grey is scum and he is caught for both game actions he hasn't realized yet and something else that im not going to say until he responds to this just incase he decided to leave out something critical in his claim because there is some stuff that doesn't add up.-
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Looks like you've never played with ikaIn post 1024, krylea wrote:Oh LyLo/MyLo is different obviously.
People talk all the time about quickhammers/derphammers, but they really don't seem that common. The only times I've seen them in all the games I've read through on this site have been scum faking an accidental hammer. Like, unless you know there's a VI in the game, I would assume that noone is going to be THAT stupid.
Maybe its just because I'm relatively new though, I guess maybe they could happen more often than I realize.-
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This seems to be in response to rainbow possibly scumslipping about half as hard as Naomi, which iirc you said was a crappy reason to lynch herIn post 1040, krylea wrote:Yeah, this may have to take priority over the Ircher thing - loathe as I am to say it.-
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I could think of a few ways this would work
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