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Thanks. You seem like you've accounted for a fair bit of those pages. Are you typically one of the top posters?In post 1303, Pepchoninga wrote:
Heya, have fun reading 53 pagesIn post 1300, PantherPunt wrote:hi guise
Hey. Your name is familiar but I'm not recalling that we've played a game - do you know if we have?In post 1304, Frozen Angel wrote:hello panther!-
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Good good thanks. Hope you can say the same.In post 1308, Firebringer wrote:Ohh sir it's pantherpunt!
How's it going man? Haven't seen you in awhile
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How do we know that, now?In post 1327, mlmooney89 wrote:Anywho we know there is scum in the most active players and someone is pushing the buttons.-
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Towny babeinthewoods post here imo.In post 45, Anotora wrote:
It's much, much likelier that one of you two is scum.In post 36, Firebringer wrote:
What if we are both miller? O_oIn post 34, RadiantCowbells wrote: Also I cc miller so powerlynch Firebringer.
Also, I have an angleshotty townread on screenplay so that slot is off the lynch table for me for at least d1-
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Do you think that among those with a high post count, some are particularly fluffy and others particularly solvey?In post 1334, mlmooney89 wrote:
Well from my experience scum wants us to be too lazy to back track through 50+ pages to find their weak points. Push the convo along and builds up protection on you.In post 1329, PantherPunt wrote:
How do we know that, now?In post 1327, mlmooney89 wrote:Anywho we know there is scum in the most active players and someone is pushing the buttons.-
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Whoever said you seem like a House alt...I tend to mildly agreeIn post 1332, -Grey- wrote:
You so judgey.In post 1330, PantherPunt wrote:Hard to believe you think there was actually motive to feign objection and keep a no lynch as an option on the table.
And the "bye bye, RVS" addendum gives me scum vibes
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Not harassment. Your word choice, style, and tone are a decent match. I don't give a shit one way or the other.
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The last bit? It's in regard to my commentary on both you and garmr. In other words, I'd assume you two wouldn't make those two posts because I wouldn't. But that's a weakness of mine. And that upon further reflection maybe I can see scum making those posts? idk. but neither will be the basis for my reads on the slots - only a factor that I may flipflop on 20 more times
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"Angleshotty" means it's outside the spirit of the game. In other words, I don't want to bring it into the game as a factor, but I can't un-have the read. I'd prefer to lean on posts in the game.In post 1351, Pepchoninga wrote: Why the read on Srceenplay?
What do you think of that slot?
ok really out for a bit now-
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WhyIn post 1379, Alisae wrote:Tho that vote Screenplay sorta soldifies my townread on you.
You very clearly have a logical thought that you worked through to come to this. The way you posted sequentially-
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I've been in the game 5 hours and have read 140 out of 1400 postsIn post 1385, Firebringer wrote:Panther your not voting and me no likey
Chill cuh
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Don't redirect me.In post 1389, Alisae wrote:
Look at his ISO and tell me what you see.In post 1384, PantherPunt wrote:
WhyIn post 1379, Alisae wrote:Tho that vote Screenplay sorta soldifies my townread on you.
You very clearly have a logical thought that you worked through to come to this. The way you posted sequentially
I asked for the thought that went through your head after he voted you to say it solidified a townread on him-
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DafuqIn post 1401, Alisae wrote:
I'm redirecting you because it'll make it easier to explain but if you don't want me to lead you in my thought process fine.In post 1400, PantherPunt wrote:
Don't redirect me.In post 1389, Alisae wrote:
Look at his ISO and tell me what you see.In post 1384, PantherPunt wrote:
WhyIn post 1379, Alisae wrote:Tho that vote Screenplay sorta soldifies my townread on you.
You very clearly have a logical thought that you worked through to come to this. The way you posted sequentially
I asked for the thought that went through your head after he voted you to say it solidified a townread on him
Screenplay is a quieter Transcend.
He only comments on things when he has a valid point.
In no way does that make sense as a reason the vote on you solidified a townread. Thanks4outing
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In post 1407, Alisae wrote:
Thats moreso comments on your play.In post 1406, Srceenplay wrote:
Do you feel my vote on you is a valid point?In post 1401, Alisae wrote:
I'm redirecting you because it'll make it easier to explain but if you don't want me to lead you in my thought process fine.In post 1400, PantherPunt wrote:
Don't redirect me.In post 1389, Alisae wrote:
Look at his ISO and tell me what you see.In post 1384, PantherPunt wrote:
WhyIn post 1379, Alisae wrote:Tho that vote Screenplay sorta soldifies my townread on you.
You very clearly have a logical thought that you worked through to come to this. The way you posted sequentially
I asked for the thought that went through your head after he voted you to say it solidified a townread on him
Screenplay is a quieter Transcend.
He only comments on things when he has a valid point.
Votes aren't really a point, so they aren't
If anything your play and your vote is just a strong towntell.WHYis the vote a towntell-
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In post 1410, Alisae wrote:Lol you're cute.
How about this. Why don't you read the thread and build a case on me and then call me scum.
Because all I am saying is that he towntold with his vote.
He's been towntelling the whole game.
Garmr I'll get to you when I can.WHYis the vote a towntell-
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Asking you to explain rationale for a read is working with youIn post 1413, Alisae wrote:And now Panther, because you refused to look at his ISO so I could lead you through my train of thought, we might not get along.
Because believe it or not, I want to work with you. Immediately saying "Don't direct me, tell me" tells me "I don't want to work with you."
I don't see how that train of thought is coming from town you.
Saying "read his ISO" repeatedly is the opposite of working with someone
And either a refusal to answer a simple question or lack of ability because it was fake. Betting on the latter based on your entire line since I initially asked-
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Trying to read through what I missed from bed but this post has all kinds of !!!!!!s to meIn post 1490, Frozen Angel wrote:what the fuck you were saying you don't beleive he is scum
if you are town your suggestion will put us in lylo
Saying this will put us in lylo assumes rc is town (which is stated as an assumption), that grey is town (seemingly based on reads), but ALSO suggests that there will be two town deaths on each of n1 and n2. That's the only way to get to lylo in a 13er by d3. F7 4v3
My first thought was oh shit FA just accidentally claimed vig..but then saw this rolestopper talk. And then realized that even if a vig was making such a statement they'd be saying they are killing town n1 and n2 and FA doesn't strike me as low confidence
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Firebringer almost too towny to be town :p (for him)In post 1499, Firebringer wrote:Grey should be used to clear town not scum reads.
You don't suicide when your a hider you find town and make a block.
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Just very odd that you'd say that would take us to LYLO. Because I'd never assume that 2 mislynches in a 13er would take us to LYLO. You're literally assuming 6 dead town by start of d3. That's troublingIn post 1613, Frozen Angel wrote:I am a role stopper. there is a claimed miller so yeah I think we might have a vig but that wasn't my point
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He claimed weak vanilla copIn post 1620, Frozen Angel wrote:its a really antitown role.
I wouldn't risk to use it knowing there are investigatives in this anyway. Now I can use it with Grey to make his role productive.
but rolestopper stops all other roles' actions on that player
but the weak modifier is a self-inflicted passive death if you target mafia. not like that player is getting targeted by a night action.
how in the world would neither of you two noodle that out or at least think to inquire about it
typically I just say let early dumbass claims be resolved but all of this smells funny and I want it known-
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like "weak vanilla cop" is actually a full blown cop that is also told if his town targets are vanilla or not. or dies if he targets mafia.
that role should crumb who they are going to target, but now that it's been claimed it needs to be flat out stated itt. and unfortunately the claiming potentially leads to a whole bunch of clusterfuckery where that role is alive the next day with no results because they're scum or are implying that they must have been roleblocked etc etc
so from that perspective, rolestopper will make sure that the action isn't blocked. but I don't think it prevents death
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In post 1623, -Grey- wrote:
So you think mafia wouldn't target me to prevent my results?In post 1622, PantherPunt wrote:but the weak modifier is a self-inflicted passive death if you target mafia. not like that player is getting targeted by a night action.
Herp De Derp.
ok...well that role should always be trying to hit town and not die but yall do youIn post 1624, Frozen Angel wrote:Thats the point he won't die by night kills with my role stop so if he dies when checking the target is confirmed scum.
how in the world wouldn't you see that ^
and I claimed way earlier than him. He claimed just 2 or 3 pages ago at most. I didn't claim for him-
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ya I got there later in the same post.In post 1627, Frozen Angel wrote:
They can't do that cause I'm a rolestopperIn post 1625, PantherPunt wrote:implying that they must have been roleblocked etc etc
what the fuck
just trying to put myself into mafia shoes...assuming there is a roleblocker...they block you and kill grey, no?
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mlmooney89 - need to look
Srceenplay - town on tone of response to alisae
Anotora - towny
Obvious Alt - 2 posts iirc?
Alisae - undecided...made a post that couldn't be explained whatsoever, but maybe just horrible way to say she thought someone was a pr. seemingly
Pepchoninga - gut town but has a penchant for saying nothing in a lot of words
Garmr - need to look more but some weird vibes
RadiantCowbells - need to look but past experience tells me I won't have a defnitive conclusion
Frozen Angel - claimed 1 shot rolestopper
Secret Agent Jin - some scummy post I recall
Firebringer - towny
-Grey- - claimed weak vanilla cop but otherwise not a fan so far
needed to do this for myself to see what my actual take on this game is.
right now I don't see a lynch today on screenplay, anotora, FA, firebringer, grey
an unfortunately large poe I need to start trying to get better feels on-
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I'd like you to definitively clear this up iykwimIn post 1635, Frozen Angel wrote:if I get rolebocked I won't loose my shot - thats what my normal reviewers forced me to do in my own normal game - so I will know if I was role blocked or not though, won't I?-
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gimme the tldr on why you have pep there?In post 1645, Frozen Angel wrote:{Firebringer}
{Grey}
{Panther, Aliese}
{Garmr , Sreen play}
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who is conftown and why, first of allIn post 2720, Frozen Angel wrote:I need to die to make the game extremly less wifomy
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the fact that 4 people were on all three of these L-1 wagons is interesting to me. Typically, I find that scum would participate in this kind of behavior more often than not because they are looking for a lynch but not a singular lynch. however, we know grey was town so that's a counte rarguement (although to me, it makes the others' equity of being scum higher)In post 1850, Alisae wrote:Leaving this for reference
Ano wagon at it's peak
Anotora (L-1) -Garmr, Srceenplay,RadiantCowbells,-Grey-, Frozen Angel,Alisae
Pep wagon at it's peak
Pepchoninga (L-1) - Anotora,-Grey-,Alisae,RadiantCowbells,Garmr, SAJ
SAJ wagon at it's peak
Secret Agent Jin (L-1) - Firebringer, Frozen Angel,RadiantCowbells,-Grey-,Alisae,Garmr
if there is 1-2 scum in Alisae, RC, and Garmr, that means there is a good good chance that each of those wagons were town (Antora, Pep, SAJ who did already flip town)
Garmr felt like that really nice sweet spot for scum d1 where he never got any heat or attention that I recall, nor did he stick his neck out and assert any original strong beliefs, reads, solvey questions etc.
though we apparently have mech stuff driving today-
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I do need to read the game, ya..but I won't get to that til tomorrow or the weekend so I was looking for cliffs. thank youIn post 2723, Frozen Angel wrote:You can read the game for yourself
gamma watched Grey and pep killed him. Mandy has a cop inno on Grey and pep was trying to kill Grey to frame RC.
No one beleives I am a roleblocked town and thats the wifom that must be resolved atm
going to unpack that clause by clause...
gamma watched grey and pep killed him.......and this is ok, apparently? gonna need to go look into that
gonna assume that mandy=mooney in which case I would say wtaf if that's legit why would you peek grey and it makes absolutely no fucking sense whatsoever that you'd claim and out that for no beneficial info
pep was trying to kill grey to frame RC... so again I'm reading that we have a claim that pep killed grey and there are no pep votes. So if it was a watch you don't actually know that's what killed him, you just know pep visited. so I'm assuming pep claimed something else?
I feel like there is something here I can root out-
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lol you never ever just let scum live bc they are likely a goon and risk the uncertainty of the lynch. you lynch the scumIn post 2732, Frozen Angel wrote:There are no pep votes cause we are not in danger of lylo and he is a confscum practically and he is likely goon
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RC ain't leading shit so stop acting like he isIn post 2737, Frozen Angel wrote:I should be lynched today
or gamma
But RC can lead it anywahere he wants Imo
LOOK AT ME
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I see where you're coming from with this sentiment, but if we lynch town instead, then what changes?In post 2752, Frozen Angel wrote: There is no need to kill the conf goon that won't add any info and let them kill and block investigatives for free >.>
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mlmooney89 - claimed cop with a n1 innocent on garmr
Srceenplay
Anotora
Gamma Emerald Obvious Alt - claimed ascetic? in a seemingly needless situation?
Alisae
Pepchoninga - seen visiting grey n1, has not claimed
Garmr - claimed non consecutive watcher with a n1 result of: pepchoninga visited Grey
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Frozen Angel - claimed 1-shot rolestopper who had to have been blocked n1 since she targeted Grey
Secret Agent Jin keyenpeydee
Firebringer - claimed miller; this has been maintained, yes?
-Grey- - dead weak vanilla cop who presumably visited RC n1
am I missing anything relevant above?
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re: pedit, I think mooney was saying the alternative to lynching pep is a MLIn post 2761, Frozen Angel wrote:Garmr, RC, ML , Fire and me are town
Gamma , pep and someone in aliese / anotora are scum
This is my two cents.
pedit : exaclty how you expect pep to be a mislynch?
but, re: reads
the confidence in RC being town is a read?
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All of that makes sense and I was reading fire as town d1 so I'm not gonna call that into question at this junctureIn post 2765, Frozen Angel wrote:
Rc is town cause pep is scum who killed grey to frame himIn post 2762, PantherPunt wrote:the confidence in RC being town is a read?
and the confidence in Fire being town...also a read? I just want to know it's not the miller claim as a stand-alone
Fire is town cause its town!fire >.> and a miller makes so much sense with 3 inves shit like this. ascietic makes no sense when we have a miller and a rolestopper. ascietic is a godfather for weak vanilla cop (grey) ascietic is scum-
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I want all the deets. Thanks for quoting pepIn post 2708, Anotora wrote:Since we have such a long thread, I thought analyzing the confscum's posts from a whole-thread statistical perspective might be useful. I made a hypothesis: Pepcho, as newbscum, is hesitant to directly engage with his scumbuddies in-thread and is therefore more likely to directly quote townies than scum. Then I counted up quotes and put it to the test.
The data seem to fit the hypothesis. There seems to be a decent correlation. I can give raw data/methodology if anyone is interested.-
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I haven't seen your posts this phase yet, but please explain why, when there is a dichotomy of you and Pep and one of you is guaranteed scum, you wouldn't be voting pepIn post 2780, RadiantCowbells wrote:THIS IS BAD STAHP-
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Then you lynch the person outed by the true claims? like wtf is going on I feel like I'm in a game with a bunch of people just straight up punking me
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