Mini Normal 1940: The Apartment [Endgame]

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Kill:Eddie Cane

Hi everyone.
I'll catch up over the night and be ready to post by D2.

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Still no flip?

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VOTE: Boon

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TessX and Boon are TvS

Wrong
They are a scum team

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VOTE: Tessxx

Boon is next I guess.

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Yup. Boon is scum.

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VOTE: Boon

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This being said, I think screen is town. He does always end up 1v1 in me as town, and I just finished modding a scum game of his.

He thinks a lot more as scum

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I see what you are doing. You are trying to discredit me before I even get started.

Like, you are doing the EXACT same thing Mulch was doing of claiming someone as scum, then not voting that person.

You're giving even less reasons than Mulch, though

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My vote isn't doing much as the lone vote. Especially when Tess already has a wagon. No reason to switch it today.

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Yes you are wrong.

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VOTE: Screenplay

You are wrong too

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VC is wrong as well

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Am I wrong about never having played scum in a game with you? No, that's correct. Am I wrong that we've always gotten in some sort of 1v1? No, that's correct. Am I wrong that you and Mulch both voted me, called me scum, then went elsewhere? Nope, that's correct. The only thing that leaves is me calling you town earlier. That's the part that is wrong is what you're saying? Because everything else I have said is proven to be correct.

Pointless exaggerations that have nothing to do with this game.

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The last vc had 3 on Tess before me.

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He thinks a lot more as scum.

This is what you are wrong about.
You are trying to pass it as a fact to try and make your town read on me legitimate.

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He thinks a lot more as scum.

This is what you are wrong about.
You are trying to pass it as a fact to try and make your town read on me legitimate.

I literally just watched your scum game, and saw how much more you thought about everything.

My town read on you is wrong is what you're saying?

And I had a town game with you were I was in the same situation as town. I fell I played it similar.

I'm not saying your town read is wrong. I'm saying you are bull shitting on your reasoning.

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Oh I didn't realize srceen replaced in, welcome
Srceen could you elaborate on, well, anything?
Such as your read on me, which would be a good start.

Want an answer

I think you two are partners. Boon shades you but keeps the shade going elsewhere.

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So you're saying you're being hypocritical now? Because you had literally given no reason and bull shit a scum read on me. I'm sick of bad town/scum not giving actual reasons and just pushing me aimlessly. Like, town really needs to fucking step up and show that they are town on this site. Stop aimlessly pushing.

Sorry RC

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Shit, I mean Boon

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Notice how he didn't even bring up the fact that he was caught out in a blatant lie/ignorant moment.

Really? I missed it

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RC's just as bad with that. We had to talk before he /in'd for this game because technically we're blacklisted. 7+ games he death tunneled me aimlessly and pointlessly with no reason, and pointlessly discredited to the point of faking guilties/innocents to get to follow his way. (those werent to tunnel me)

I was skeptical about it happening this game, and hell, it still might, but I appreciate the fact that he's at least attempting to try and not do that.

I was just joking.
I didn't know.
Wasn't trying to start nothing.

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Oh I didn't realize srceen replaced in, welcome
Srceen could you elaborate on, well, anything?
Such as your read on me, which would be a good start.

Want an answer

I think you two are partners. Boon shades you but keeps the shade going elsewhere.

So this is yet another blatant lie.

Lol. This?
What did you catch?

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Like...put yourself in my position right now knowing that I had to come into this game paranoid of it happening again with RC, only to have it happen with Mulch and you. Not exactly the same, but still. I was already going to be on edge this game.

This is AtE. Is doesn't matter to me. Move past it for now.

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You asked for the 1v1. Don't bitch about it.

I'll dig in a bit for the shade I saw.

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You chose not to even attempt crap to make yourself look town or make any sort of scum case.

Didn't you call that my town game?

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So you are pushing me as Town?

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You asked for the 1v1. Don't bitch about it.

I'll dig in a bit for the shade I saw.

It was probably around the time I was shading skitter too. Originally I had Tes and Mulch as a team, but then I started to town read Tes. So show where the shade is after the town read came and explain the shading while pushing elsewhere. Never overlapped.

Why do I need to show it after the town read?
You just admitted what I saw is true.
It doesn't feel right to me and I call you scum with Tess.

So where is the confusion coming from?

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@Skitter - Why do you seemingly target TesX then turn around on Fire? I'm not liking Tes's content thus far in this game. I don't know if he's scum or not, but I don't like it. To me, it's coming off as if you are just trying to state things to state things and appear you are doing things, Skitter.

TesXX is probably scum that's mad about being pushed without concrete evidence and from what he was meaning as joke posts. That's probably why Mulch chainsaw'd onto me with a wrong meta case.

Not pushing you today, obviously, but I'm not at all a fan of you agreeing that TesXX as scum and using it as leverage to push a case on someone else.

Honestly, I don't really care about TesXX right now. Now that I'm not afraid of being a dick this game, TesXX can be town and die for all I care. Don't claim scum like that. Initially I thought that's why you were pushing Tes, as a "lynch these people immediately to stop this from happening". My Mulch case is coming from a place where I targeted Tes then right after Mulch targeted me.

I'm not letting someone get away with an incorrect evaluation of play. Like, Mulch is just wrong no matter what way you look at it.

VOTE: Skitter

Skitter today. Mulch tomorrow. Tes is the mislynch bait. Skitter has two things on Mulch. One was the rvs vote on Mulch, the second was just stating he had no idea if scum had day talk or not, and now they're both changing their stances and pushing the same agenda whilst staying away from each other.

That's some of your progression I was looking at. I'll let you help me and find you Town reasoning for Tess
I have to be up in 6 hours.

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I'm not a fan of Screen being surprised that there wasn't a flip after 2 hours from his first post. Mulch was the leading wagon at the time and Screen did nothing to ensure there would be a flip in his absence and did nothing to help get one right after wondering why.

If that's what you are hung up on, I'm sorry. It was a joke.
My first post was a

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Screen, you scum?

Nope

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I'm not a fan of Screen being surprised that there wasn't a flip after 2 hours from his first post. Mulch was the leading wagon at the time and Screen did nothing to ensure there would be a flip in his absence and did nothing to help get one right after wondering why.

If that's what you are hung up on, I'm sorry. It was a joke.
My first post was a

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post. It was in reference to the mod not flipping that.

Don't buy it.

What don't you by?
That is was a joke?
That there wasn't some nefarious agenda behind it?
That I'm not scum?
That it's not how my first posts progression was?

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Mulch is L-1?
I'm going to hammer soon.

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Anyway I feel like I'll be most useful in death

Only scum.
If you are town and hammer yourself maybe you should take a break from mafia.

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I will never take anyone seriously who hammers themselves.

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Why?
I had intent to hammer you as well if I could.

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Mulchs actions end of the day yesterday was horrible. I hope he never joins a game I am in if he plans on doing that again.

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Mulchs actions end of the day yesterday was horrible. I hope he never joins a game I am in if he plans on doing that again.

He didn't actually selfhammer if you look at the VC.

Hm. You are right. Doesn't change the fact that he wanted to.

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Speaking of claiming scum, RC, did you actually think I was scummy for claiming scum?

Is it Scarab or Eddie that told you what I said in neighbourhood that made you ask this question?

No, can you stop dodging my questions?

Something to think about

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I think maybe RC was onto something.
It seems that someone from his neighborhood was thought to be scum and relaying information to Tesxx.
So that's two scum.
Now just check Boon tonight and that's game.

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I think maybe RC was onto something.
It seems that someone from his neighborhood was thought to be scum and relaying information to Tesxx.
So that's two scum.
Now just check Boon tonight and that's game.

so you think it's tess/(me/scarab)/boon?

Definitely worth thinking about.
A 3 person neighborhood and all town seems unlikely.

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I am dead confident it is town slot.

That makes sense

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Especially after Boon wrote the following and clearly indicated that the next vote would be hammer?

In post 1039, Boonskiies wrote:
Imma pull a Vedith and give town cred to the hammerer on Mulch

Vedith \o/

Oh he did?
I'm going to need to look at Uzi then. My bad

What is it that you need to look at?

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it wasn't necessarily the right play to shoot you. it was necessarily the right play to shoot someone.

i never said you were talking about me in particular. Not shooting there is not bad play.

yes it absolutely is.

mafia cannot have a second night kill in a normal.

shooting someone as vig (normally) means two flips.

one of those flips cannot be mafia. it could be serial killer, but for all intents and purposes sk is town aligned until later game - mafia is a bigger threat earlier on, especially if you aren't bp. they are also uncommon enough it's not a priority concern.

that confirms you as not mafia while also dealing with a problematic player - be it personally problematic or problematic to town. it also means if you get run up and need to claim you won't get lynched.

you don't necessarily need to shoot if you are widely trd after d1, that much is debatable. if you're one of the most widely scumread people in the game, was forced to claim, and are still widely scumread going into night... that's not. if you're town and you didn't shoot you need to know that was a misplay so you don't repeat that bullshit.

I wouldn't have taken a shot I wasn't comfortable with.

What happens to you town clear idea. If the vig shot was taken on a town and I healed RC?

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From your lynch pool I know you said Boon gives information.
Anyone else?

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VOTE: Tesxx

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VOTE: Tesxx

What's this vote for?

To start a wagon on you.

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@mod:Would it be possible to change the color of the person the wagon is on? With all the other names they start to blend in together.

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VOTE: Srceenplay

I also don't like anything you have said.

I think maybe RC was onto something.
It seems that someone from his neighborhood was thought to be scum and relaying information to Tesxx.
So that's two scum.
Now just check Boon tonight and that's game.

So do you think all of tess/(Eddie/scarab)/boon are town?
Who do you think yesterday's lynch should have been?

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could you show me what you don't like about what srceenplay's said?

He said he doesn't like anything.

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why do you want to wagon me

I think you should have been the lynch yesterday.
Looking at the vote counts you were the top wagon. After that you moved your vote to the next top wagon and was on it for a town lynch.
I think RC may have been onto something about you being coached. If it's like he said that could say something about the neighborhood.
I think Boon is defending you and I'm not understanding where or why that happened.

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So did you ISO me mumble?
What have you read? Just today?

Is it ok if I call your vote on me a gut read?
If so I think you will change your mind later.

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Consider it starting a wagon on you.

Could have answered at least one question.

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goodbye

i think eddie is scum here

i just really know that he is

Got a secret
Can you keep it?
Swear this one you'll save
Better lock it in your pocket
Taking this one to the grave
If I show you then I know you won't tell what I said
'Cause two can keep a secret if one of them is dead

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Mod: was Key replaced because of prod or asked to be replaced?

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goodbye

i think eddie is scum here

i just really know that he is

Got a secret
Can you keep it?
Swear this one you'll save
Better lock it in your pocket
Taking this one to the grave
If I show you then I know you won't tell what I said
'Cause two can keep a secret if one of them is dead

Keys last 5 posts.

Mod: was Key replaced because of prod or asked to be replaced?

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Mod: was Key replaced because of prod or asked to be replaced?

You want to play the game or have the mod play it for you? Second time you've asked for intervention since I've started in.

If you think it AI vote me.

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VOTE: screen

analyze this

Scum claim

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If you think it AI vote me.

I did.

Great. Now explain how my questions to the mod is AI.

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If you think it AI vote me.

I did.

Great. Now explain how my questions to the mod is AI.

Why would I when that's not why I voted you?

You seem defensive. Of course, it's not helping that others aren't posting anything of relevance, but you are only posting in response to me right now.

Your not making sense.
Is it or not AI?

Complaining about me being defensive? When I'm just trying to get the ball rolling.

None else is posting?, neither are you. You have 7 post. All I gather from them is you don't like what I have to say but haven't read much and you don't like me asking mod questions.

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What conclusions have you came to in all of your long questioning posts Tesxx?

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why do you want to wagon me

I think you should have been the lynch yesterday.
Looking at the vote counts you were the top wagon. After that you moved your vote to the next top wagon and was on it for a town lynch.

Voting the biggest wagon other than myself is not a scumtell, I had good reasons for voting Mulch.

I see it as scum trying to get out of a lynch

I think RC may have been onto something about you being coached. If it's like he said that could say something about the neighborhood.

Quote places that looked like I was coached.

Im going off the post RC was referring to. Not searching for it now but you know what it is

I think Boon is defending you and I'm not understanding where or why that happened.

So

Boon

defending me makes you vote ME.

No that just makes me think Boon might be scum with you.

VOTE: screen

analyze this

Scum claim

Are you trolling

no. I said the neighborhood thing looks like you could be getting coached. Then a guy from the neighborhood blindly votes me when I'm voting you.

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Skitter and luv shooting down my theory's gives me some pause. (Not much). I don't want to be wrong on all accounts.

If they were meant to be all town they would be masons imo, not neighbors.

I ISO Tess and then Tess and Boon together. I looked to me like Boon was distancing from Tesxx until a possibility of a lynch came and then it was just lynch bait.

I have not read the entire games. I never do on replace in. I just ISO people that catch my attention.

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Iso me

Your ISO sucks.

Why do you town read Eddie?

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W/e.

Fykus, this is like mini normal.

Trust my reads post death. Tessx, boon, and uzi are scum. I'm confident, maybe even all 3 are.

Anyway I feel like I'll be most useful in death. Try to remember that dead town reads are drastically accurate than live ones.

My top scum read is Uzi. Then boon.

Quoting these so they're easy to find later.

VOTE: LUV

Ill make a case after work. Ill some stuff off of my phone before then so dont be alarmed if that happens

And you forgot this case or some sort of reasoning.

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Fykus has 15 posts and none of them give me a read :/

@Fykus
From your votes D1 i'm assuming you're scumreading Tes, what's your reasoning?

I honestly cant remember without going back and rereading my posts. I think it had something to do with all the big names being on the wagon so that

even if some were scum they couldnt all be

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Explain this better. You were just sheeping? Even if scum was the person voting?

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Maybe that's just a bad way to say it. I would think if scum were on the wagon it wouldn't be right.

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Eddie hasn't done much today.
Tried to for an issue on the vig not shooting and not even voting them.
Then he puts a bad vote on me as I call him possible scum.

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I understand it may be rng but the mod sets up a specific scum team.
My reason to think it's true was from RC implying he was talking about something it the hood and then Tess happens to bring up the same thing here.
That implys to me that a scum hoodlum was talking relaying the conversations into the scum chat.

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So it's not really about setup spec at this point. It's more speculation about what's going on in your hood.

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Talk about your hood Eddie.
Do you two suspect each other? Town read each other?
What about what RC said. Does the timeline fit? Look suspicious or coincidencental?

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I have the opposite mentality. Everyone is innocent until proven guilty.

That's what scum know.

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There are seven people not voting.

Can all of you please put a vote somewhere so we can get a direction to go this day.
Maybe that will start the game flow

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I have the opposite mentality. Everyone is innocent until proven guilty.

That's what scum know.

yep. I just don't know who I'm wrong about is the difference. (this isn't the first time I've posted this mind set. I generally do.)

If I town read everyone from the get go, rather than null/guilty, I have the highest possible chance at being correct from the beginning, and I'm stronger with figuring out town reads early game than I am with scum reads.

I'm the opposite. I think everyone is a liar and guilty.
Trying to figure who is honest is the hard part.

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Do you still think Scum Screen is town?

Your shade is getting boring.

Are you looking for someone to talk you out of it or are you looking for someone to agree with you? Then give a reason you can jump on and agree with?

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My content has been fine.
Definitely better than this mumbling.

The content we need is votes from everyone.

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Wagon don't happen on scum out of nowhere?
That should be nai.

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You scum read me for sarcasm or content?

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If he is, he needs to start giving better content. It makes sense to me that people are scum reading Srceen, and that Srceen is more likely town, which to me is super annoying because you can't even really analyze that kind of wagon

Why does it make sense for me to be scum read again?

You make it sound like my ML is inevitable and no information would come out of it except "see I knew it".

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I'm not a fan of Screen being surprised that there wasn't a flip after 2 hours from his first post. Mulch was the leading wagon at the time and Screen did nothing to ensure there would be a flip in his absence and did nothing to help get one right after wondering why.

You scum read me for sarcasm or content?

What?

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Iirc that's the reason you had a scum read on me. My opening sarcastic posts.

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What else do you call a fake day vig shot?

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How does a day vig shot that doesn't happen translate to getting people to follow?

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I can't remember why I voted Boon at that point but if you look at the time stamps you can see it's another 40 minutes until I get engaged and post again.
That's when I was ISO tes and the tes and Boon together.

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The lack of of flip was in response to the vig shot. "What mod didn't flip my vig shot?"

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Did no one else get that either?

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I can not believe you see anything but that.
Please don't just use that as your only basis to read me. If you have to use it as a starting point, fine, but don't use it as a ending point.

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Also don't buy that you don't know why you voted for Boon at that point. He had recently posted before you made that vote.

I don't know what to else to say

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Nothing you can say because you've been caught faking a read.

It's literally impossible for you claim to not remember why you started to scum read him at that specific point since you also just claimed you went through his ISO. You don't just bother to go through an ISO of someone you voted just because.

Your time line is off

I scum read him after the ISO. I voted him before that. It wasn't just because. I started with Tess and then did them togyhalf way through Tess.

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I don't remember.
Probably random. I don't know. I'm not going to give an answer that's not true.

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The opportunistic play would have to just get on the biggest wagon and say I'll catch up later.
That's not what I did. I looked back and voted elsewhere. Saying I'm trying to get a random name to stick when I could have been content on a mulch wagon doesn't add up.

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You are stuck on something that was nai and trying to make it stick.

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The opportunistic play would have to just get on the biggest wagon and say I'll catch up later.
That's not what I did. I looked back and voted elsewhere. Saying I'm trying to get a random name to stick when I could have been content on a mulch wagon doesn't add up.

That's just one play scum could have did.

Why would it be best for someone replacing into a slot to do that as scum? A slot that was arguably considered a lurker by many. The same slot Mulch seem to express concerns about?

That's just it as scum why would I replace in, draw attention to myself before I even knew the game state?

You are stuck on something that was nai and trying to make it stick.

Not being able to explain why you voted for someone when it can reasonably infered that you had strong reasons to isn't NAI.

How do you figure I had a strong reason to vote Boon without no reasoning or context before it?

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I wished you would have pushed this when it was fresh in my mind.

Rereading that section it's possible I voted Boon because he was one of the recent active posters from when I last posted.
Still no reason for it as either alignment.

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@Boon, what's you thoughts on this now? Can you give a rundown on of those on the wagon?

if I am to feel Eddie is town, then I think everyone on Mulch's wagon is town.

Mulch -> 7 (Boonskiies - 491, Eddie Cane - 519, TesXX - 623, Keyen - 641, Vedith - 894, Skitter30 - 1036 Lil Uzi Vert - 1047 = HAMMER

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I think I want to lynch tess or screenplay.

Lynch Tesxx. If he's Town vig me

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are you online screen

Kinda

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Another thing I'm having trouble with is if you're going to run with scum!Tess because someone in the neighborhood is scum and was coaching Tess . . .why are you sold on Boon/Tess? Boon isn't the neighborhood. By this logic, one of Eddie or Scarab *must* be scum, but you're sort of treating them as an afterthought, and seem to be pushing the Boon/Tess thing more than Tess/Eddie or Tess/scarab thing.

I had Tess scum before the neighborhood thing. I also had Boon as a scum partner before Eddie. Eddie came up later.

I'm not for sure with Boon. I wouldn't put him at a for sure scum but more of a slight lean as of now.

I feel like Eddie probably would be the better lynch of the day for now. Except we need to wait and see what happens with the prod in the hood. There might not be a logical reason to think that there is scum in the hood because of rng but my gut/feels thinks there is. I can't shake it. I also think a scum flip there goes to prove the coaching theory.

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I'm not sure if you had already ISO'd them at the time you made the above post . . . but it seems odd to me that you were so certain about Tess/Boon when they hadn't been discussed at the time and weren't interacting with each other there.

Look at the time difference between the post. That's when I'm reading ISO.

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So I guess I'm obvious town now.

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Town don't lie

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Hope your busyness is ok

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I'm laying in bed

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screen what are u thinking about the game

I think it's stagnant.
Not coming with much new.

Had some back in forth with LUV but don't think we got anywhere with it.

I think everyone needs to place a vote somewhere so we can come to a consensus and have some discussion before it turns into a deadline.

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screen what's your opinion of the eod now that you've had time to process

I think mulch got pushed through as a counter wagon to a scum wagon.

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He is the counter wagon. The other player was Tess but it dissolved. Got turned around onto mulch.

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When I look at the mulch lynch there are only two people I town lean.

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Neither because they are Town reads or because they are not scum reads or because you have bigger scum reads?

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When I read Tesxx I seen he was the wagon.
Iirc mulch put him at L1 or L2 and then it dissolved and went to mulch.

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When I look at the mulch lynch there are only two people I town lean.

additional question, what tess wagon are you looking at? compare the voters to the mulch wagon if you care

I haven't done that but will now.

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VOTE COUNT 1.9
TesXX -> 6 (Firecrocer - 57, Scarab - 379, Skitter30 - 383, Mulch - 498, RadiantCowbells - 504, and Fykus - 562)

Mulch -> 7 (Boonskiies - 491, Eddie Cane - 519, TesXX - 623, Keyen - 641, Vedith - 894, Skitter30 - 1036 Lil Uzi Vert - 1047 = HAMMER

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What did you want me to see between the two?
Skitter on both?

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We know Tesxx had 2 confirmed town on his.
I can also assume there is at least one scum on mulch.
If I'm right about him being the counter push by scum there are probably at least 2 on it.

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Your thinking I was going back looking at the vc wagons. I didn't do that. I gathered Tesxx was the wagon from reading him.

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Do you come to any conclusions from them to vote counts? @ Anyone?

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Not tonight with the time part. I'm about done.

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I can stay up tomorrow.

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@Boon, what's you thoughts on this now? Can you give a rundown on of those on the wagon?

if I am to feel Eddie is town, then I think everyone on Mulch's wagon is town.

Mulch -> 7 (Boonskiies - 491, Eddie Cane - 519, TesXX - 623, Keyen - 641, Vedith - 894, Skitter30 - 1036 Lil Uzi Vert - 1047 = HAMMER

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Fire are you seriously voting Vedith?

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Yes, but I know i'm wrong because he is obviously conftown :/

Thanks

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I don't Town read him but I also don't scum read him.

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I feel others have a better chance of flipping red

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Otherwise scum just have to hide under radar to win a game.

I don't think you are going to be able to do that. So it doesn't matter for now.

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Please let's wagon Vedith.

@Scrceen
What's your case on Eddie? Is it just gut and that you're convinced there's scum in the hood?

Basically yes. A little unfair until we here some from the replacement.

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I really want to lynch you, Screen, and I don't know why.

Because you have a history of being wrong.

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@Mod - VLA until Monday. Working out of town. I'll still be posting if I get time, though, but potentially I won't have any time.

Answer a couple questions first

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I don't see something obvious for the Tesxx lynch to have ended.
There was a momentum swing. If you can assume some scum were on the mulch lynch. Why didn't scum go ahead with Tesxx?
What's different about the people on them? You think it's evenly scum on each?
I think momentum wings came from scum.

I sorry if this is jumbled. I'm at an event right now.

I thought Eddie but want to hear from the other neighbor before my decision is made.

Boon I'm undecided on.

I do think I'm got it narrowed down to 6 players.

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I really want to lynch you, Screen, and I don't know why.

I feel you. You should always go with your gut.

I like Mumble

Sounds to me like a personal problem.

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I f know one else is going to put votes down can we at least all voice out top 2-3 scum reads?

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I will give my six tomorrow when I get time to sit down
Fight night tonight

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^

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VOTE: tess

Gonna sheep eddie

How about doing what you said you were going to do.

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UNVOTE:

I'm willing to listen to other options.

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OK, if you think scum actively prevented a Tess lynch, *someone* had to have shifted focus off of that wagon. Who in particular do you think is responsible for that?

I think/thought Boon was that person.

I'm not to sure on Boon. Trying to use him as scum to help with Tess might be forceing associative's.

I'm not saying I don't feel it. I'm just willing to give pause for a bit.

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No

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You are comfortable with it?

Really hoped to get something out of una.

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Didn't we already have discussions on directing shoots?
Not a good idea.

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Just shoot yourself at night.
Is that allowed mod?

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If their is a mafia rb or doc what does that do to your shot calling plan?

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Because it winfom.
As soon as you start calling shots you give scum information they can use to create their own narrative.

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Your post is full of assumptions.
In a perfect world it could be true but in a perfect world we wouldn't have scum.

The point is you can't give scum free information like that. They can and will do what ever they can with that information to fuck over town. It bold of you to assume they wouldn't and your plan is perfect.

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those aren't my assumptions. I'm asking if they're yours, since you're so against directing vigs. unless you're not against directing vigs?

I guess I'm confused by what you are saying. Rephrase please

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Just shoot yourself at night.
Is that allowed mod?

Uh, why on earth would I ever vig myself? I know I'm town. That's directly against my wincon.

VOTE: Srceenplay

That wasn't directed towards you. It was at Eddie

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Town: Me Skitter LUV Fire Vedith


Scum:
Eddie/Una
Tess
Boon
Fykus
Mumble

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What is leashing big? Explain it to me.

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I'm a scum and scum cant self kill...?

FTFY

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It's basically me calling Eddie scum and asking him to off himself tonight.

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What is leashing big? Explain it to me.

vig

I still don't understand what you are asking

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Yeah, that isn't what I read that as . . .

You were not involved in that conversation. Why would you think I was talking to you?
The only person I was talking to was Eddie.

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do you approve of leashing the vig. do you approve of directing who skitter vigs. yes or no. Jesus Christ this is not that complicated

Leading is telling the vig who to shot?

Then no. At this time I don't think that is a good call.

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Eddie you already know my issue with the hood. In my view it doesn't look good to you that we got a replacement there and you don't show no concern for that slot giving any type of update or options on it. But you are ok with them blindly sheeping you.

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I guess I'm not understanding.
How is this different from what I have already said?

If you decide to shot me that's your prerogative but I don't think it should be decided by someone else in the open. Ultimately it should be up to you and something for you to talk about and explain afterwards.

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*@skitter

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after all his bitching he's not voting. =/

can more than 1 of you actually post more than once every other day what the fuck

I unvoted and gave my reason. Nothing has changed since then.

I would think you knowing the questions around the hood you would push him for more from it. Instead you seems indifferent

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I thought scarab was solid town from hood stuff. should I erase that?

and make sure you answer my other q please

We have been waiting for a good update.
Are you implying we are not getting one?


What question. I think they have all been answered.

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the point of a hood is a private discussion.

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now, I didn't ask about the hood. I. asked. about. why. you. are. against. leashing. skitter.

why does every one in this game have reading issues

you've ignored this like 3 times

Because it winfom.
As soon as you start calling shots you give scum information they can use to create their own narrative.

Your post is full of assumptions.
In a perfect world it could be true but in a perfect world we wouldn't have scum.

The point is you can't give scum free information like that. They can and will do what ever they can with that information to fuck over town. It bold of you to assume they wouldn't and your plan is perfect.

do you approve of leashing the vig. do you approve of directing who skitter vigs. yes or no. Jesus Christ this is not that complicated

Leading is telling the vig who to shot?

Then no. At this time I don't think that is a good call.

I guess I'm not understanding.
How is this different from what I have already said?

If you decide to shot me that's your prerogative but I don't think it should be decided by someone else in the open. Ultimately it should be up to you and something for you to talk about and explain afterwards.

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oh. no, he's gonna post here. the hood is why his slot is town tho, not the thread.

My point is you defending him for not posting here when you know we (at least I) have been waiting on it. To me that makes you more suspicious than him. You nonchalantly saying he's town it's cool.

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Where his side? That's what we've been waiting for.

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1602
What more is it you are trying to get?

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I'm not as much shading him. I'm shading you.


Be back later.

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I guess I'm not understanding.
How is this different from what I have already said?

If you decide to shot me that's your prerogative but I don't think it should be decided by someone else in the open. Ultimately it should be up to you and something for you to talk about and explain afterwards.

I'm trying to see whether your issue is actually leashing a vig as a policy or if it's "I don't want to get shot and don't want to admit that".

I think there is more value out of my lynch than me being shot.

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My advice would be to kill someone who you think is scum but you don't think you will be able to sort or lynch.

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You

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UNVOTE:

I think I misread what Srceen said earlier.

I could be talked into vigging Eddie.

Why do you want to vig Eddie?

My advice would be to kill someone who you think is scum but you don't think you will be able to sort or lynch.

I'm not saying I want you to. I'm saying that's who I would shoot.

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Let's get the day over with. Doesn't look like anyone else wants to come in and do anything.

VOTE: Tesxx

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Let's get the day over with. Doesn't look like anyone else wants to come in and do anything.

VOTE: Tesxx

VOTE: srceenplay
not impressed by their interactions with eddie and that vote was soooo lazy

If you weren't lazy and engaged you would know it's not lazy. It's were my vote has been all game. I took it off to give time for others to engage and it's not happening. So back it goes.

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What's suspicious about it?

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What's suspicious about it?

implies paying attention to the slot not the player. scum screen wants to lynch me bc im an esay counterwagon rather than based on my play.

You are not a counter wagon. You are the wagon.

I didn't remember your name. You have done less than Tesxx so how could anything be based on your play. If anything you pushing an argument when you don't know or ingnored the context is bad.

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Well what do you have?
I took off the vote and asked other for input and got none. So what's wrong with me going back to were I was? To many lurkers and those of us who are active are just talking in circles now.
I'm ready for this day to be over.

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That's wrong. I asked for others input. Haven't got it.
I don't see how you think it's unreasonable for me to go back to it when nothing better is showing up.

No one needs to decide your shot but you. You are the vig. You explaining it the next day helps people read you. It also minimizes scum infuence.

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Town: Me Skitter LUV Fire Vedith


Scum:
Eddie/Una
Tess
Boon
Fykus
Mumble

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I don't know between the two of Eddie una. Hopefully get more info by tomorrow

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VOTE: srceenplay
not impressed by their interactions with eddie and that vote was soooo lazy

What about my interactions with Eddie bothers you?

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Town you did this to yourself. You let scum dictate the game while you sat back and lurked.

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I stuck with my read and I get punished for because you Town won't help to contribute.

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Town: Me Skitter LUV Fire Vedith


Scum:
Eddie/Una
Tess
Boon
Fykus
Mumble

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how 'bout the skitter shoots fykus?

Just stop

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This is the worst mislynch against me ever. I can't do nothing about it because people won't engage.

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Town: Me Skitter LUV Fire Vedith


Scum:
Eddie/Una
Tess
Boon
Fykus
Mumble

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VOTE: srceenplay
not impressed by their interactions with eddie and that vote was soooo lazy

What about my interactions with Eddie bothers you?

it seemed like you were more worried about giving info away than actually giving genuine thought processes.

How so? I thought I explained my thought process.


Also should I not be concerned about giving info away?
Does it not bother you to give free information to scum?

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Keep it mind guys. This guy hasn't came into this game proving he is Town. He only came in shading me.

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You have seven posts. No town tells in there. Plus no obvious desire for you to give any.

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Also I feel that I have and had answered all question reasonably. Never hid or shy away from any.

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I'm an odd night cop.
N1 I checked RC.
Piss off scum fucks

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explain why you would check RC N1. That was a bad decision if you're town.

Why is checking RC a bad decision. If he becomes confirmed town he is invaluable. Otherwise there would always be a nagging suspicion that he is playing us.

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If I'm alive to D3, cop me N3.

I don't need another game where cop cops me the same night I die.

Looking through his wiki, he seems to be killed N1/N2 as town a lot, so what he said seems to be accurate, and should have been taken into account.

I am also not sure why you think there would be a nagging suspicion that he is playing us. Why him over any other player?

Why investigate RC over any other player? It just seems coincidental and an illogical choice.

Because I know RC is good and a manipulator. I made a call that I thought makes most sense.

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I'm hammering unless

Scum

Srceen can give me a better answer.

What better of an answer do yo want?

Why are you in a rush to hammer before the rest of the town gives input?
Are we on a dead line?

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VOTE: screen

Thats L1

okay.

I'm going to hammer tomorrow if the thread doesn't pick up.

Because I'd like an answer without the risk of someone hammering before I get it.

oh mb i thought they were at l2

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My check makes complete sense and those who play with RC should be able to understand and agree.

As for odd night, I can't do anything to change that.
Jail me block me check me follow me I dont know. It's a judgement call you all have to make.

I put myself out there with what I feel while no one else did. Now I'm getting punished.

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You're just scum.

That's bad play. Making decisions without regard for rest of towns thoughts.

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That's why we lost this game. Shitty town won't stand up and town tell. They just lurk.

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Town: Me Skitter LUV Fire Vedith


Scum:
Eddie/Una
Tess
Boon
Fykus
Mumble

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Because I know RC is good and a manipulator. I made a call that I thought makes most sense.

To me, it's not JUST this.
It's the check of a CONFIRMED PLAYER + ODD-night which means you don't have to come up with anything tonight.
This would give you two days if we wanted to "test" your claim.

How would it be different for you if I checked someone who is still alive?
My results would still be the same if I was mafia because I would know who town is.

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VOTE: screen

Thats L1

okay.

I'm going to hammer tomorrow if the thread doesn't pick up.

Because I'd like an answer without the risk of someone hammering before I get it.

oh mb i thought they were at l2

This potentially caught in lie.

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I am just scum.

This person hasn't hunted at all. Just tunneled and shade threw st me all day.
Hasn't even gotten into a discourse with any one.

Yet every one blindly chooses me.

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Vig better make an awesome shot

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Should be information galore here.

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I'm get as much info out as I can

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Stop trolling.

You are scum or a horrible town player

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Random
Una
Mumble

My final guess.

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Random
Una
Mumble

My final guess.

Well, at least one of those is wrong!

You've been more active now than you have web all game and it's just to push a lynch you weren't involved in.
On top of you not being apart of the discussion, you then play your part to end the discussion for Town before everyone can put their input in. That's pretty fucking scumy to me.

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*have been