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Rob so you're saying my claim is BS bc of your experience with miller claims ... so it's a meta read.In post 31, Robbnva wrote:Millers I don't think are used much and I think I've seen enough miller fake claims to not trust them. Plus despite the in incorrect wiki, proper play imo is to not actually claim.
I've played like at least 5 games with mulch and if meta is garbage why are you using it to justify yourself?In post 34, Robbnva wrote:1. Meta is garbage
2. From what I can tell mulch has only seen whymafia one game. So That's not enough to use garbage meta-
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So you've decided to death tunnel me? I'm fine with that, but at least keep an open mind over others. I understand that you believe this is scum, but why wouldn't town!me claim?In post 37, Robbnva wrote:Well hopefully you can't avoid it cause I'm going to make sure he's lynched-
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IDK but this post is rubbing me the wrong way.In post 41, humaneatingmonkey wrote:EDIT by post.
Tornaga's right. This will be two long weeks. I'm not going to lynch him today or next week, but I want to place a stagnating L-2 wagon on him until before deadline. If he's scum, people will try to protect the slot as much as possible. If he's town, no problem.
Toranaga's not looking at the big picture. If there's a Miller, there's possibly an investigative element to the game. If we can't flip it for that investigative role today, we will never confirm the slot. Scum will always want to keep this guy alive because it throws off that investigative role. Eventually, we'll be in LYLO and we will have this huge obstacle in the way. Better lynch him now that deal with that damage later.
SURE. GO WITH THAT. THE PERSON WHO PUSHES FOR HIS LYNCH ASAP IS THE PARTNER. lmaoThor665 wrote:You mean like you did?
A) Leaving me at an L-2 wagon decreases the chance of his scum buddy getting pressured
B) Could leave a deadline scramble
C) It prevents us from doing any form of wagon analysis. It's easy for scum to just sit on me.
I think monkey is scum
And then I'm confused by the second part. It seems weird considering the first part. It's like he wants to push me, be wants to seem flexible for town cred. Then same with the thing with the invest. I claimed so it doesn't throw off the invest. How will it throw it off? Seems like a lazy way to justify a lynch. Then so what if it doesn't confirm me? Nobody is fully confirmed until their flip, why does it apply to me instead of a VT that doesn't get invested.-
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This doesn't seem natural. It makes me think of "WTF I'm caught for BS reasons"In post 137, Havo wrote:
So in less than 24 hours, based off of introductory posts you determinedIn post 136, Toranaga wrote:you just didn't understand my post
=rand is at 75% villager in a 13er
<rand is whatever is lower than 75% and >rand is whatever is higher than 75%
50% is pretty low and a good d1 lynch.
I was 50 to 60 % likely town and deserving of your vote to lynch.
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Just because it's been little time doesn't make it hard to have reads. You and Havo clearly know what's going on, yet you guys have refrained from doing much. There's enough content for reads. We didn't even have a page of RVS for gods sake.In post 184, MariaR wrote:
FUCKING PREACHIn post 183, Havo wrote:I honest to God can't believe how people are spitting out reads, serious reads, 18 hours into the game. If anyone wants to post reads fine, have at it, but don't accuse me of being scum just because I haven't posted a facking read list by hour 36.-
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But from what I remember, you and Havo haven't even attempted to sort people. At lleast ask questions on stances.In post 187, MariaR wrote:Like honest to god you know how easy it is to fake a god dam reads list if you want to it's not that hard at all. Being sr for lack of reads is fucking stupid because coming up with genuine reads for some people takes time-
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^In post 189, Mulch wrote:In post 183, Havo wrote:If anyone wants to post reads fine, have at it, but don't accuse me of being scum just because I haven't posted a facking read list by hour 36.
And the claim's not bullshit.
That's not why I scumread you, and the claim is bullshit 101. You heavily softed power role, I want you to claim. Now.-
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there's been plenty of content. Your reactions to votes sucked, which is why I'm scum reading you. You havent questioned anyone either, all you've been focused on is repeated the thing I just quoted.In post 257, Havo wrote:
No I haven't played it terrible.In post 249, Chip Butty wrote:About the Havo soft: If he really is a PR then drawing massive attention to himself by obstinately refusing to provide reads and doing all that complaining was a terrible way to play it. Also the alleged soft was so obvious he might as well have just hardclaimed a big PR. I agree we need to see a fullclaim at this point.
HOW THE FUCK CAN I PROVIDE READS WHEN I DONT HAVE ANY WORTH POSTING YET?!?!?!?!?!
What can't you people understand about that???
If I provide a read list it will come across as forced and not genuine. BECAUSE IT WONT BE!!!!!!!
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But ... that makes me town because if I was scum you'd get no result ...In post 497, Havo wrote:
No, I still get a guilty on the Miller. Would show up as Not Town.In post 484, humaneatingmonkey wrote:Don't you think that if the Miller is part of your "faction" (alignment. it's weird that the word faction would be used here.), you'll still get regular results regardless? It's a Miller. Now do you see why your claim does not make sense?
It's like I said earlier. The Miller is the fly in the ointment. Otherwise I would have just been a reg Cop.
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But why would there be a town miller thenIn post 499, Havo wrote:
Yes as long as U R a town Miller.In post 498, WhyMafia wrote:
But ... that makes me town because if I was scum you'd get no result ...In post 497, Havo wrote:
No, I still get a guilty on the Miller. Would show up as Not Town.In post 484, humaneatingmonkey wrote:Don't you think that if the Miller is part of your "faction" (alignment. it's weird that the word faction would be used here.), you'll still get regular results regardless? It's a Miller. Now do you see why your claim does not make sense?
It's like I said earlier. The Miller is the fly in the ointment. Otherwise I would have just been a reg Cop.
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I'm having PTSD to Ircher's game now cficvuvycurefvIn post 567, Mulch wrote:[Mulch, Whymafia]-
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that doesn't make you not scum ;-;In post 577, Mulch wrote:
You know I know you woulden't claim miller as scum. I think we are two town here.In post 574, WhyMafia wrote:
I'm having PTSD to Ircher's game now cficvuvycurefvIn post 567, Mulch wrote:[Mulch, Whymafia]-
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This is such a lazy way to scum read mulch. It's a theory difference. You're making a reason to scum read him and it feels fabricated. If you're going to blatantly soft, you're gonna get NK'ed anywayIn post 703, Sergtacos wrote:
Looks like I'm looking for a reason? Hm apparently you didn't really read the posts carefully. I gave my reasons why Mulch could be scum. I made a strong case against him yet you disagree, why because I'm looking for a reason? The reason is in the posts, he tried to get Havo to hardclaim, which typically town doesn't do that because they don't want their god damn power role support players be killed. How is this hard to understand? I swear you people are dumb for wanting to get a hard claim in D1, fucking D1. A COP. We're gonna lose a fucking cop N1. How do you guys feel about that? Think about it, jesus christ.In post 641, Misère wrote:UNVOTE: Havo
I read ahead just enough to see that Havo finally hard-claimed. In the absence of a second cop claim I have to at least provisionally accept him as town.
@MODSpeaking entirely hypothetically, if a Loyal Cop were to target a Town Miller, what sort of result would they get? (Specifically, would it be identical to the result for targeting a Mafia Goon?)
Spoiler: Wall of catch-up reactions, pp. 7-14
tl;dr:Havo's obstinacy is so self-defeating that he may actually be town. Sergtacos looks bad. MariaR looks bad. Mulch looks great. Chip Butty is making a lot of sense but, as of page 14, I'm not committed to saying that makes him town.-
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?In post 740, Havo wrote:
Yes, everyone ignores BBT because there's always a more scummier target, then of course BBT survives the night because if he is town, no way scum is gonna kill him off.In post 739, WhyMafia wrote:I think blue is more like a deadline/compromise lynch
Until around deadline, I am ignoring his posts.
Then before you know it, it's LYLO and guess who's making the game deciding decision?
I honestly don't know if this site is gonna work for me. There's a good reason for policy lynches, it make take a little time, but they eventually start culling this kinda shit.
That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying if we cannot decide on a lynch, or we're getting close to deadline, we should just lynch him.-
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Wait a second ... I've never played a town PR game with Fykus ....?In post 802, Toranaga wrote:
those are very different reads! mulch is townreading WM based off of WM not being the type of scum that would FPS a miller claim early! Fykus is saying WM has claimed stuff early before as town, as if that mattered to his miller claim. it seems like a meta read just thrown there with the sole purpose of making his read seem more nuanced. that's why I think his read is scummy.In post 768, skitter30 wrote:
Can you explain why you're townreading Mulch's townlean on WM based on meta but are scumreading Fykus's? Like, what's the difference between the two?-
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Wouldn't putting someone at L-1 and announcing it put her under the fires if he flipped town though?In post 803, Toranaga wrote:
I don't think skitter is villagery and this reads just agenda driven, trying to get town lynched hereIn post 154, skitter30 wrote:
The fact that you're 'Not Scumhunting' is precisely the problem.In post 141, Havo wrote:
What's not to like?In post 140, WhyMafia wrote:Don't like his defense
The only thing I see that I've actually been accused of is Not Scumhunting.
24 hours into the game. And we've still got a handful of people who has barely posted anything.
You have a relatively significant number of posts, but very few of them are advancing the game. Instead, you're fluffposting and using sarcasm to discredit people's reads (118, 'nice to see I'm in a game with such good players who can develop serious reads less than 24 hours in').
You seem rather concerned about defending yourself and trying to undermine people's reads on you, and don't seem that interested in looking for scum.
VOTE: Havo
L-1.
I think maria is kinda villagery fwiw
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Which game? I don't remember ever day 1 claimingIn post 878, Mulch wrote:I have a game in which he did this but I don't think fykus was in it, let me check.-
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Oh
That game. disregard my last post-
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Can you remind me why you scum read her?In post 907, Thor665 wrote:
That's you describing your case on him, not disabusing mine.In post 867, Mulch wrote:
672In post 850, Thor665 wrote: And you actually haven't described how my read on Skitter is bad
Hopefully no one ever does. That's the point, isn't it?In post 870, Mulch wrote:So thor, how do we catch you if your scum if you don't act any different?
Vote tags are new age and fill me with fear.In post 904, Virtuoso wrote:VC posted. If everyone can use the vote tag that will make it so much easier for me to see your vote. If I missed any votes, please let me know.
Unvote: Skitter
Vote: MariaR
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I town read MariaIn post 973, humaneatingmonkey wrote:Who's defending MariaR right now?-
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this a horrible voteIn post 991, Fykus wrote:VOTE: bbt
Why dont we just lynch this? They arent/seemingly wont contribute to the game and the only conclusion is that its scum or a useless townie. This will save us an investigation so that we can sort the game easier.
If its scum then goodo, if its a vt no big loss. The only downside i can see is if hes a pr, but honestly youd think hed be trying a bit harder if he was.
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You literally took the easiest and safest option. This can easily apply to VI and on top of that, your ISO is bare af as far as I can rememberIn post 991, Fykus wrote:VOTE: bbt
Why dont we just lynch this? They arent/seemingly wont contribute to the game and the only conclusion is that its scum or a useless townie. This will save us an investigation so that we can sort the game easier.
If its scum then goodo, if its a vt no big loss. The only downside i can see is if hes a pr, but honestly youd think hed be trying a bit harder if he was.-
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yes but i have no idea what it does
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