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In post 186, Apple Jack wrote:mod I can play with this player anymore. Please replace one of us
In this situation@modyou almost always replace derpy and not monkey.Amrock#3784-
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I'm pretty sure RB is town, and I'm good at reading RBIn post 66, rb wrote:
VOTE: JodaxqIn post 65, Jodaxq wrote:
I haven't been that scummy honestly. And saying that totally wasn't scummy either... Or that...In post 62, humaneatingmonkey wrote:Okay wtf how is everyone this scummy this early
UNVOTE:
I might be reading this game wrong. I'll re-read later and give 2 cents
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Possibly scum hereIn post 77, Hawk wrote:So just a quick read with leans from what I've seen.
I like. (slight townlean)
Monkey
Psycho
RB
and maybe Sky?
I don't like. (Scumlean)
Jodaxq
Derpy
Really don't like 2iAM
VOTE: 2iAMAmrock#3784-
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In post 99, humaneatingmonkey wrote:As town, can you see that your first reaction to this post is to metadive the fuck out of it? Note that he didn't even vote it at first, only when he was under pressure and forced to do something with it. I'm not seeing that as organic town process.Amrock#3784-
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Wrong, it's how you get accurate readssIn post 100, Apple Jack wrote:Using meta is garbage in general.
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Don't you think he's scumIn post 117, Hawk wrote:Though I highly doubt that scum could have hammered you at L2 elegantly enough for us not to be suspicious of people voting you.
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In post 155, Apple Jack wrote:I’ll expect an apology in the next 5 minutes or you are confirmed scumAmrock#3784-
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I hope you deal with your depression derpyIn post 205, Apple Jack wrote:
Not letting my depression stop me from having fun. I’ve gotten help. It’s a constant struggle for me and gets worse around holidays.In post 189, Sky_Paladin wrote:If you are depressed dont play mafia, get help.
Doesn’t change the fact that monkey is scum.
however, monkey was, and is not, unfortunately, scumAmrock#3784-
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Yeah we have some experience. Remember when I talked to you about your "tunneling town" issues thoughIn post 207, Apple Jack wrote:Got some irl issues to deal with atm. Be active tomorrow. I’m glad mulch replaced in. I’ll still get some enjoyment
wel.lll...Amrock#3784-
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RipIn post 209, Apple Jack wrote:What’s done is done bro. There is no turning back.
P.edit - your slot is scum. Confirmed. Sorry.
Let's give it a day to relax
I'm almost sure ur town soAmrock#3784-
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Fair enough broIn post 210, Hawk wrote:
I do. You probably didn't understand the tone here. I think he's overreacting with the "A l2 vote deserves explanation" The game didn't seem to be moving that quickly so he wasn't in any danger.In post 203, Mulch wrote:
Don't you think he's scumIn post 117, Hawk wrote:Though I highly doubt that scum could have hammered you at L2 elegantly enough for us not to be suspicious of people voting you.
I'm confident probably one scum in 2iAM and Psycho I just am more inclined towards 2iAM. But I could be wrong.
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In normal games, vigilantes can't be scumIn post 214, Hawk wrote:
Why are you almost sure??In post 211, Mulch wrote:
RipIn post 209, Apple Jack wrote:What’s done is done bro. There is no turning back.
P.edit - your slot is scum. Confirmed. Sorry.
Let's give it a day to relax
I'm almost sure ur town so
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Sorry bro but I've got no time right now, modding a turbo on MU currently. Will get back to you tomorrow probIn post 216, Hawk wrote:I noticed you didn't like my initial reads. Which ones bothered you?Amrock#3784-
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In post 77, Hawk wrote:So just a quick read with leans from what I've seen.
I like. (slight townlean)
Monkey
Psycho
RB
and maybe Sky?
I don't like. (Scumlean)
Jodaxq
Derpy
Really don't like 2iAM
VOTE: 2iAM@Hawk
The reads I didn't like about these- sky was part of them, nothing towny so far at that point from him, and I think it's possible you are scum pushing on an easy mislynch of 2iam because he's consistently lynchbait as town.Amrock#3784-
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What did you dislike about monkey, I actually thought his replace out was towny as hell (dirty as it was), and otherwise he was playing I think pretty similar to his town meta?
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I want to know why you think this is noteworthyIn post 226, BuJaber wrote:Also mulch just scumread someone that monkey townread. Not necessarily AI but noteworthyAmrock#3784-
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Null on 2iam, he consistently plays the same well as villager or scum ie plays bad as both allignments. It's possible we should lynch him day 1 just because he will never ever be towny and there's a possibility he could hit scum, but I would probably rather lynch someone who's actually scummyIn post 226, BuJaber wrote:2inam and psyko.
Pysko- I'm not neccecarily townreading the early effort but i'm liking the way he's going with his thought process, plus I'm kind of a sucker for someone who does this type of meta reads. I think this guy knows how to play the game and is a bad day 1 lynch because they can definitely help us if they are town.
Per lynching one of us- relatively scummy from your part, especially how you said you "want to lynch sky" but might lynch a less scummy person for "information"
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I meanIn post 229, Apple Jack wrote:
It’s ridiculously easy to mirror town meta as scum. So you rely on meta and lose the game.In post 202, Mulch wrote:
Wrong, it's how you get accurate readssIn post 100, Apple Jack wrote:Using meta is garbage in general.
Derpy plz
First of no offense but I've consistently over my mafia career had better reads than you so it's a little ridiculous that your lecturing me on this
Secondof all I said I USE meta, not rely on it
and third of all, that's untrue factually
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VOTE: BuJaberIn post 235, BuJaber wrote:Prof: You raise valid points about DH but you end up voting him. Lynching DH is not the answer. At the very least us not lynching him means scum have to make a decision whether to kill him tonight or not. He's bad? good, scum kill him for us. And if they don't we can utilize his power. But what you're suggesting is doing scum's dirty work for them. That I cannot support.
If you think DH is scum vote for him. That should be the only reason to vote him.
Ignore DH for a second.. between 2inam, psyko, and mulch who would you rather lynch?
Heavily dislike trying to dome the lynch between the three of us when it's lynchbait, relatively towny person, and lycnhbait (yes I am lynchbait) all in the name of "information"Amrock#3784-
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Don't delude yourself, I read through the game. HEM didn't apologize to you bro and he was a dick- that dosen't mean hes scum.In post 240, Apple Jack wrote:I don’t have to convince anyone. That said I’ve given plenty of reasons for monkey and mulch hasn’t done anything townie yet.
Do I need to bring up the game I modded where someone scumread you, you tunneled them for the rest of the game, forced them to replace out, and they flipped town? Or the last few games you've had when someone scumread you, you tunneled them, and they flipped town again? It's a reacurring pattern in your games. It's another reason I think your town here besides the vig claim, but it's something you have to work onAmrock#3784-
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If my guy was scummy I would call him scummy regardless of my allignment. I can quote you games where I replaced in as scum and called my predecessor scummy if you like. In fact if HEM was scum I prob WOULD call him scummy rnIn post 249, TwoInAMillion wrote:
It seemed like he knew he was caught and didn't want a loss on his record.In post 242, Mulch wrote:What did you dislike about monkey, I actually thought his replace out was towny as hell (dirty as it was), and otherwise he was playing I think pretty similar to his town meta?
And it's not like you would say he looked scummy.
Also, he was force replaced. So he didn't choose to be replaced- therefore he didn't "choose" to do anything
So if I'm getting this straight- you don't scumread HEM on his play, only that he replaced out?
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Derpy Hooves- Pretty sure town
Sky_Paladin- Possible scum
TwoInAMillion- Null, needs to improve gameplay
acryon- Don't even know who this is
Hawk- Possible scum
BuJaber- Scummy
profii- I think town but needs to improve gameplay
Mulch replaced humaneatingmonkey- Town
PsykoSavant- Townlean
Jodaxq- Scummy
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You could always ask me why I think RB is townyIn post 254, Apple Jack wrote:See how can I town read somebody who says rb is very townie and rb has done jack shit to earn even a slight town read?
Ugh this is going to be the longest shortest game I’ve ever played.Amrock#3784-
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To answer your question, here is why RB is very highly town:
Spoiler:
This first quote is an almost perfect reaction and literally the same one that I had when going through this. We mindmelded and it's incredibly natural to see JOdaxq as scum at that point because he was super scummy right before that. It would be pretty masterful for him to have this reaction as scum
I'm pretty sure if RB is scum he uses Sky's "badness" to push on him, not call him a villager and waste a mislynch. Unless they are scum partners, but the odds of that are pretty lowIn post 68, rb wrote:Sky Paladin probably town though
This shows he does not care about being scumread, I know RB scum and he care how people think about him. Town RB dosen'tIn post 221, rb wrote:about halfway through page 6 i went from reading to skimming
by the end of page 7 i upgraded from skimming to skipping
same with this oneIn post 222, rb wrote:so when are we lynching jodaxq?Amrock#3784-
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Why is that scummyIn post 256, TwoInAMillion wrote:No, also that he didn't say the Open was over when we were discussing it and we thought it was still ongoing.Amrock#3784-
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I don't even know what this means or why it's scummy, so I would appreciate an explanationIn post 259, TwoInAMillion wrote:
Because it shows alterior motive.In post 258, Mulch wrote:
Why is that scummyIn post 256, TwoInAMillion wrote:No, also that he didn't say the Open was over when we were discussing it and we thought it was still ongoing.Amrock#3784-
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Which questionIn post 261, Apple Jack wrote:But jodaq’s question wasn’t a bad one let alone ai so being suspicious of that is either scum push or shitty play
Also derpy I'm kind of not in the mood to argue with you. I'm willing to let you lynch me today/shoot me in the night if you promise to take responsbility for your actions post-game and try to improve your game in the futureAmrock#3784-
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Do you think he purposefully did it? I honestly have no idea haven't read it carefullyIn post 262, TwoInAMillion wrote:Town shouldn't hide information, unless you are a power role.Amrock#3784-
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Then your bad at scum lolIn post 263, Apple Jack wrote:Not caring about being scum read isn’t AI either. I never care if I’m scum read when I’m scum.Amrock#3784-
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You win as scum cause when you have bad reads everyone thinks your townIn post 270, Apple Jack wrote:
Except I usually win as scum. I get town read as scum by manipulating people who believe in stupid things like “not being afraid of being scumread”In post 266, Mulch wrote:
Then your bad at scum lolIn post 263, Apple Jack wrote:Not caring about being scum read isn’t AI either. I never care if I’m scum read when I’m scum.
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Dude, personal insults come from townIn post 271, Apple Jack wrote:I don’t want to argue either. If I’m wrong on your slot though that isn’t my fault. Your predecessor did intentionally scummy things that I can’t see coming from town. He questioned my integrity and didn’t apologize and he crossed the line with personal insults. There is no way I can ever ignore that. There is no way anyone can convince me that came from town because I honestly don’t see how it could.Amrock#3784-
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In post 277, Apple Jack wrote:He knows arguing with me is pointless but did it anyway.
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I mean, if a kid on the team relentlessly bullied me, I would quit for sureIn post 276, TwoInAMillion wrote:You're like the kid who quits the basketball team because he doesn't get along with one player.
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My reads are never shittyIn post 284, Apple Jack wrote:I hate people who live in the past. You are only as good as your current game.
You’ve had some very shitty games. So have I.
I’ve had some very great games...Amrock#3784-
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ngl this is pretty townyIn post 286, BuJaber wrote:So Mulch you agree with me that jodax and sky are scummy but you lump me with them. Typical.. I guess I'll just need to play more games on mafiascum so people know me.
VOTE: Jodax
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I never voted profi. Are you lying?In post 293, TwoInAMillion wrote:profi's assumption of Mulch as town, and Mulch's quick vote of Jodax after profi was voted makes me think they could be a scumteam.Amrock#3784-
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Which of my posts, in your omniscient opinion, is "doing nothing"In post 320, Apple Jack wrote:
Why is that funny? its completely true imo.In post 318, Mulch wrote:Not accomplished anything? LmaoAmrock#3784-
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I never give explanationsIn post 322, Apple Jack wrote:Scum have to say as few words so they can keep options open.
Also this is factually incorrect
I give MORE reasons as scumAmrock#3784-
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Have you ever ASKED me for reasons?In post 322, Apple Jack wrote:Secondly, Wanting people lynched but you have refused to give reasons for them. You make a lame excuse for why you can’t give reasons.
Where did I refuse to give reasons?Amrock#3784-
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lolIn post 322, Apple Jack wrote:You have also argued with me, admitted you basically know it’s pointless, and then claim you being bullied. That’s in a nutshell you not doing anythingAmrock#3784-
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Shoot me babyIn post 328, Apple Jack wrote:Sorry I don’t believe you.
And then when the game is endgame you can apologize to me and the entire town for shooting the copAmrock#3784-
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Fyi this is prob why Human got so angry lolIn post 330, Mulch wrote:
Shoot me babyIn post 328, Apple Jack wrote:Sorry I don’t believe you.
And then when the game is endgame you can apologize to me and the entire town for shooting the copAmrock#3784-
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Lets ignore you made a list read to begin with because those are pointless filler.
Reads list are literally the opposite of pointless filler
But it’s a pretty useless list read with absolutely no real explanation for any of your reads.
I only give reasons as scum
Scum have to say as few words so they can keep options open.
false actually the opposite
If you were town there’d be some actual reasons for your reads
false, opposite
and they would make sense
1)Mine make sense 2) Often time town's reads don't make sense.
(they don’t btw)
They do
Secondly, Wanting people lynched but you have refused to give reasons for them.
This is a lie, I never refused anythying
You make a lame excuse for why you can’t give reasons.
lie
To play this game you not only need to find scum, but tell people why they are scum.
factually incorrect
I did that for your slot.
by saying I didn't apologize lmao
I did that for psycho.
Wrong
You have also argued with me,
The sky is blue
admitted you basically know it’s pointless,
oh sweet jesus I did
and then claim you being bullied.
I was
That’s in a nutshell you not doing anything.
I don't know what you think the definition of the word "anything " is
Your entire iso is useless
Incorrect
and if you are town
I am
you will have left behind nothing to help the rest of us.
Except my readslist and my cop results
The only thing I have to figure out is why are you buddying rb
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