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Lies from a lying scum that needs to be lynchedIn post 284, Detective Pikachu wrote:In post 282, Creature wrote:Haha ragequitters
lazyIn post 283, Creature wrote:lmao RC voting a pole
Cinna is siteflaking
what is a 'pole'?
Although I can live with him going to lylo tbh bc flavour-
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But he didn’t though? Didn’t know about the family in hospital thing and I’m sorry to hear it but doesn’t change the fact that he didn’tIn post 580, Tim Goodman wrote:That's a pretty bad entrance?
Also I spoke to cinnamon unrelated to this game and he had a family member in the hospital; you're kind of pushy about this Cinnamon didn't siteflake thing.-
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I have my first completed game on forum as VTIn post 582, Tim Goodman wrote:Does meta on you exist?
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Where did I say “Cinn never does C as town”? I’m saying that I think Cinn was playing completely out of character here from what I know of him, and I’ve read some of his meta and think it seems off for that tooIn post 576, Menalque wrote:I’ve played with Cinn before and there’s no way that slot is town lol
The whole family thing does throw me off a bit, but I also think it makes total sense for Gamma to come in and try to be as obv town as possible as the cinn!slot was getting somewhat scumread when he entered the game-
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Because they vary in how good they are at it and PR mechanics/analyses of who voted where can still catch them out even if they’re good at seeming obvtownIn post 593, Tim Goodman wrote:
No way this slot is town is strong phrasing. Sorry I mixed up the strong phrasing with another strong phrasing.In post 576, Menalque wrote:I’ve played with Cinn before and there’s no way that slot is town lol
Also ... if scum can just choose to obvtown why don't they always choose to obvtown and never lose?
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Yes but you’re gonna have to wait for me to have a laptop tomorrowIn post 595, ofrhz wrote:Can you expand on how cinnamon was playing out of character?-
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lol nice try at pre-emptively discrediting me because you know that when I make my case for Cinn!scum it’s gonna look bad for you
@EP I don’t see how pointing out that my top scumread is scum and promising to bring a case to back that up is scummy but w/e
I don’t really have a normal playstyle but sometimes I’ll be more spamposty and energetic sometimes less so. When I’m on my phone I’m more likely to be writing shorter posts and just giving my opinion
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Is gimmick a player or are you suggesting this is an alt account that’s also a gimmick? Both are wrong fyiIn post 699, Creature wrote:
Oh, it's a gimmick alt.In post 571, Menalque wrote:Detective Pika is scum and so is gamma calling it now-
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Oh FYI I just won a game where I called scum v early on where the slot was being broadly TR’d and cinn was in that game and I TR’d him against multiple people thinking he was scum and I was right
Making me 2/2 on cinn reads so far even against pressure
Then D2 I called the second scum slot in my first post
So maybe I’ve been coming on a lil strong but then again when your reads are this good why wouldn’t you-
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I don’t know what u meanIn post 889, Tim Goodman wrote:i didn't ask who gave the order because it had nothing to do with business.-
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I think he was obv!town up until the self vote which I admit did throw me a bitIn post 990, Gamma Emerald wrote:
When someone is muddying the water that much do you think it's a good idea to keep them around? FB wasn't contributing in any way and would have been a detriment to the game imo had he continued to post the way he did.In post 988, Menalque wrote:VOTE: gamma
Still p sure you’re scum and the fact that you hopped on before the self vote from FB only makes me think it harder
But other than that he was just shit posting in a way that wasn’t doing that much, it wasn’t until Tim started tunnelling him that it hurt the gamestate at all-
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Oh hey, it’s me, ya boiIn post 991, EspressoPatronum wrote:
Lol, this didn't age very well. RIP Tim.In post 978, Firebringer wrote:Creature, I trust u to lead the push on Tim. U are the new Firebrander
It'll be worth looking at who Tim's top scumreads were. While he was likely targeted bcz he was being widely townread, it could also be that the maf team was feeling the pressure from him.
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In post 646, Tim Goodman wrote:Gamma Emerald Cinnamon
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Menalque u r a person 2
Firebringer Lil Uzi Vert, Dr worm
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strong argument, I'm soldIn post 1003, Pink Ball wrote:
DP is scummier than me?In post 998, Menalque wrote:Pink why is DP scummier than you?-
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In post 189, Cinnamon wrote:I like creature and Tim rn.weird that Cinnamon is being this vague out of RVS, and couching both of these with "right now"s as mentioned by someone else
this is also out of character -- I don't think I've seen Cinn fluffpost or make jokes outside of RVS at all. he's normally much more focused and serious throughout. I think this is him trying to be lighthearted in order to show how towny he is only it doesn't workIn post 194, Cinnamon wrote:In post 191, ClearlyClarity wrote:
Don’t you mean...In post 176, Klick wrote:Choo choo
Pika-choo choo?
looking for reads from someone who was coming off as super towny rather than trying to actively solve himself, again, this doesn't fit with prior playIn post 211, Cinnamon wrote:Tim, on the other hand then do you have any townreads?
Cinn normally pushes back super hard against anyone scumreading him as town. the fact that his response is so tempered here makes me think this is him drawing scum and not wanting to pull attention, especially as last game together he got widely scumread and only narrowly avoided being mislynched (in no small part because I correctly TR him for this behaviour and pushed back against those gunning for his lynch super hard)In post 223, Cinnamon wrote:
I'm not really sure what more content you want to see right now. It's kind of weird that you say that when I've posted my reads and you haven't interacted with them at all.In post 222, EspressoPatronum wrote:
Thanks for the honesty. If you find the time over the next few days, can you drop a quick post on people who feel the most scummy? We can @ you with specifics from there.In post 219, ClearlyClarity wrote:
Honestly? You're right. Sorry. I signed up for too many games and I've always been more miserable in games outside of Newbie queue. I hate being in the dark about reads. Your posting has actually been p towny and I OMGUS'd out of annoyance.In post 218, EspressoPatronum wrote:Can you share why/how you got to your scumread of me? As it stands, it looks like it's either a bandwagon read or an OMGUS.
UNVOTE:
Got my sights set on URAP and Cinnamon now. Hoping to see more content from them tomorrow.
again, soliciting information rather than building casesIn post 226, Cinnamon wrote:Tim or anybody else townreading Ep rn could you explain your EP townread?
Cinn does ask questions a lot as town but the fact that he seemed like he was just focusing on Tim defo could have been a pocket attempt from where I'm sitting
it also just seems more forced than his more freeball questions in the games I've played with him, making me think he's trying to copy his town play but it doesn't come across as genuine
In post 237, Cinnamon wrote:By engage, I mean something I can respond to, whether that's a question or a discussion point. You responded to my post sure but there's not much in that post that I felt was worth responding to and then you post that you want to hear more from me. That's the vague 'pushing for lurking' sentiment that I felt.
this is just more of him being way softer on someone scumming him (EP) compared to what's normal behaviour for town!CinnIn post 238, Cinnamon wrote:Instead of a 'I want to hear more' I feel like town is more inclined to have questions to ask about my position so far or what I've said-
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In post 189, Cinnamon wrote:I like creature and Tim rn.weird that Cinnamon is being this vague out of RVS, and couching both of these with "right now"s as mentioned by someone else
this is also out of character -- I don't think I've seen Cinn fluffpost or make jokes outside of RVS at all. he's normally much more focused and serious throughout. I think this is him trying to be lighthearted in order to show how towny he is only it doesn't workIn post 194, Cinnamon wrote:In post 191, ClearlyClarity wrote:
Don’t you mean...In post 176, Klick wrote:Choo choo
Pika-choo choo?
looking for reads from someone who was coming off as super towny rather than trying to actively solve himself, again, this doesn't fit with prior playIn post 211, Cinnamon wrote:Tim, on the other hand then do you have any townreads?
Cinn normally pushes back super hard against anyone scumreading him as town. the fact that his response is so tempered here makes me think this is him drawing scum and not wanting to pull attention, especially as last game together he got widely scumread and only narrowly avoided being mislynched (in no small part because I correctly TR him for this behaviour and pushed back against those gunning for his lynch super hard)In post 223, Cinnamon wrote:
I'm not really sure what more content you want to see right now. It's kind of weird that you say that when I've posted my reads and you haven't interacted with them at all.In post 222, EspressoPatronum wrote:
Thanks for the honesty. If you find the time over the next few days, can you drop a quick post on people who feel the most scummy? We can @ you with specifics from there.In post 219, ClearlyClarity wrote:
Honestly? You're right. Sorry. I signed up for too many games and I've always been more miserable in games outside of Newbie queue. I hate being in the dark about reads. Your posting has actually been p towny and I OMGUS'd out of annoyance.In post 218, EspressoPatronum wrote:Can you share why/how you got to your scumread of me? As it stands, it looks like it's either a bandwagon read or an OMGUS.
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Got my sights set on URAP and Cinnamon now. Hoping to see more content from them tomorrow.
again, soliciting information rather than building casesIn post 226, Cinnamon wrote:Tim or anybody else townreading Ep rn could you explain your EP townread?
Cinn does ask questions a lot as town but the fact that he seemed like he was just focusing on Tim defo could have been a pocket attempt from where I'm sitting
it also just seems more forced than his more freeball questions in the games I've played with him, making me think he's trying to copy his town play but it doesn't come across as genuine
In post 237, Cinnamon wrote:By engage, I mean something I can respond to, whether that's a question or a discussion point. You responded to my post sure but there's not much in that post that I felt was worth responding to and then you post that you want to hear more from me. That's the vague 'pushing for lurking' sentiment that I felt.
this is just more of him being way softer on someone scumming him (EP) compared to what's normal behaviour for town!CinnIn post 238, Cinnamon wrote:Instead of a 'I want to hear more' I feel like town is more inclined to have questions to ask about my position so far or what I've said-
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this feels like it's a v plausible fake after reading through everything, seeing pressure on his slot, and then posting this to talk about how he wasn't trying to obv!town bc he didn't know his slot was being pressuredIn post 308, Gamma Emerald wrote:Read like the first 4 pages and have some opinions already
also can't remember the numbers but wasn't Cinn pressure starting around p4? need to check that
this felt v aggressive unneccesarily and like setting up a reason to go after urap!slot (aka me) later which did then happen, but he can talk it off by lacing it as being about Pokemon (as we see later)In post 309, Gamma Emerald wrote:
If you don't like the games and are going to bash others for liking them like this, get the fuck out now. I'm not gonna tolerate this at all. Also, where is your evidence for the dog fighting claim?In post 78, u r a person 2 wrote:I played pokemon red when it came out. it was okay
haven't touched the stuff since
but making animals fight each other is cruel. did you know that millennials who consider themselves pokemon fans are less likely to think dog fighting is wrong than those who don't? yeah, that's some messed up stuff, huh?
I think espresso seems scummy early game but is just mislynch bait -- to actually read him as town (or as town without mentioning that the reason for it is that he seems super mislynch-y) is weird and pocketingIn post 311, Gamma Emerald wrote:
At this point feeling Espresso is town. Liking their instincts.In post 107, EspressoPatronum wrote:Interested to hear some thoughts from the following people:
u r a person 2
Lil Uzi Vert
Cinnamon
ClearlyClarity
Lurker scum can be pretty dangerous. These four haven't posted much yet.
think this is him seeing that CC is a good potential slot that also replaced out and deciding that pushing there will make him look townIn post 326, Gamma Emerald wrote:In post 191, ClearlyClarity wrote:
Don’t you mean...In post 176, Klick wrote:Choo choo
Pika-choo choo?In post 192, ClearlyClarity wrote:Pikachu is town and I’m not seeing any non-RVS reasoning for his wagon tbh
This isn't good imoIn post 193, ClearlyClarity wrote:Call me back when something cool happens.
also CC is an easy push because she hasn't done anything towny but equally hasn't done anything scummy, so it's a great way to look like he's productive while not focusing on any of the important players and whether or not they're town
more of thisIn post 334, Gamma Emerald wrote:
What about CC's posting was town?In post 212, Tim Goodman wrote:{TG, CC, EP} is a good starting ground
and more of going after CC for just slow playing, I don't think she ever made claims that the game being slow wasn't to do with her, so this is misreppingIn post 343, Gamma Emerald wrote:
My problem with CC is that they were kinda coasting by and were acting like they weren't the reason the game is slow.In post 217, ClearlyClarity wrote:
By "something cool" I don't mean "interrogate me because I'm on your arbitrary lurker prodlist" but w/e.In post 196, EspressoPatronum wrote:
Kk, so you have DP as town. Any scumreads?In post 193, ClearlyClarity wrote:Call me back when something cool happens.
You made your vote in Klick in RVS. Do you still agree with your vote? Why/why not?
You're my biggest scumread rn. Klick is like... muddled. 105 was kinda bad but they actually try to scumhunt, even if misguided or reaction-testy.
backing off it but he's created some susp on that slot to come back to if his other desired push (urap!slot aka me) doesn't come offIn post 351, Gamma Emerald wrote:
I can actually understand this given the previous post by CCIn post 220, Tim Goodman wrote:dang
i feel like both CC and EP are pretty hard town after that last interaction
like i guess CC might just be playing super well but i think i'm pretty happy clearing them both.
RP is correctly SRing Cinn so there's a pushback here in the same way that he'll do to me when I correctly SR Cinn on my entranceIn post 352, Gamma Emerald wrote:
Now that I've come around on CC I don't like this post, feels like targeting LHF lurkersIn post 228, RedPanda wrote:cinnamon and cc are scum. Will post in sometime.
this is a weird way to try and deflect pressureIn post 367, Gamma Emerald wrote:
Still wanna hold to this push now that they've replaced out?In post 271, RedPanda wrote:I was waiting for both cinnamon and clearity reactions to my post to vote for the scummier one but since clearity is ignoring this game, I'm forced to choose.
I don't like that cinnamon ignored my post. Seems like cinnamon is scared of a back and forth that might happen.
Vote cinnamon
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...ok. How is this coming?In post 302, Pink Ball wrote:I'm trying to learn everyone's name before pushing anyone
I think the last two are distancing probsIn post 371, Gamma Emerald wrote:VOTE: Pink Ball
Their last post doesn't mesh with their activity level or what I feel like their personality is
hyper aggressive overreactionIn post 630, Gamma Emerald wrote:
Yeah you're coming off as irl scum so really back this the fuck upIn post 583, Menalque wrote:
But he didn’t though? Didn’t know about the family in hospital thing and I’m sorry to hear it but doesn’t change the fact that he didn’tIn post 580, Tim Goodman wrote:That's a pretty bad entrance?
Also I spoke to cinnamon unrelated to this game and he had a family member in the hospital; you're kind of pushy about this Cinnamon didn't siteflake thing.
clearly my arguments on Cinn aren't being accepted at this point and I wasn't getting much traction
why freak out like this? bc gamma is scum and he knows I've got him, and probs pissed off that it isn't even bc of his play but bc of the play from Cinn beforehand
the lack of contribution (just vaguely hitting at my slot, painting CC as potential scum which was easy) means this doesn't hold upIn post 631, Gamma Emerald wrote:
I wasn't trying to obvtown I was trying to revive a game I perceived as stalledIn post 592, Menalque wrote:
Where did I say “Cinn never does C as town”? I’m saying that I think Cinn was playing completely out of character here from what I know of him, and I’ve read some of his meta and think it seems off for that tooIn post 576, Menalque wrote:I’ve played with Cinn before and there’s no way that slot is town lol
The whole family thing does throw me off a bit, but I also think it makes total sense for Gamma to come in and try to be as obv town as possible as the cinn!slot was getting somewhat scumread when he entered the game
I now have two town games although admittedly I couldn't talk about it at the time -- but could easily have looked at my user and read a bit of that game where I was also p obv town based on flips by this point and my play in that game is much more similar to hereIn post 632, Gamma Emerald wrote:
So Cinnamon playing out of character is enough to call him obvscum, but you say to not judge you off your own obvtown game you had? Not buying it.In post 592, Menalque wrote:
Where did I say “Cinn never does C as town”? I’m saying that I think Cinn was playing completely out of character here from what I know of him, and I’ve read some of his meta and think it seems off for that tooIn post 576, Menalque wrote:I’ve played with Cinn before and there’s no way that slot is town lol
The whole family thing does throw me off a bit, but I also think it makes total sense for Gamma to come in and try to be as obv town as possible as the cinn!slot was getting somewhat scumread when he entered the game
VOTE: Menalque
easy, I think you're lying about only reading the first few pages as you enteredIn post 633, Gamma Emerald wrote:
Also I noted I read only the first few pages as soon as I entered so what makes you think I felt I was under pressure?In post 604, Menalque wrote:There is someone in this game who can vouch for me being good at detecting scum town!faking after pressure versus genuine town
In post 638, Gamma Emerald wrote:KIn post 640, Gamma Emerald wrote:zzzzIn post 674, Gamma Emerald wrote:Yaaaaay
contributing nothing but looking activeIn post 778, Gamma Emerald wrote:
OkIn post 687, Firebringer wrote:i don't know what it makes me think
I caught scum last game for this same behaviour
think this light interaction is distancingIn post 781, Gamma Emerald wrote:
This feels so triteIn post 733, Pink Ball wrote:Hey look at that, everyone's scumreading me, that means even my partners agree I should be wagoned
note that gamma never votes pink
yeah I saw you be hyper aggro on urapIn post 785, Gamma Emerald wrote:
I wasn't hyper aggressive though, just hyper activeIn post 763, RedPanda wrote:
why not apply this to gamma?In post 705, Tim Goodman wrote:I feel like historically I've been a shit ton of games where I was the only one who scumread someone playing hyper aggressively and I usually ended up being right
I think that -oh that confidence is towny- isn't good logic here. scum would need to do something big with this entrance with how tight the PoE pool already is. this is a situation to make a push like that.
Did you see me go for someone's neck out of the gate?
then go in on the CC slot
even if your phrasing was calmer the intention was there
convenient excuse when pressedIn post 787, Gamma Emerald wrote:That was essentially gatekeeping
less convincing given how you jumped on me which is the same slot
asking Qs but not really advancing the game in a solve-y wayIn post 795, Gamma Emerald wrote:Could you expand?
so -- distancing. he's talking about how PB is scummy but shouldn't be lynched while also never putting a vote there or seriously pushing itIn post 818, Gamma Emerald wrote:
That works, I don't feel like lynching PB at this point because this is pretty good and I want yo give him a chance to contribute laterIn post 807, Pink Ball wrote:
I started calling people attention and wanted to analyze whoever called me scum at the begining of the game, then see what their intentions could be. People who didn't call me scum at the begining didn't deserve analysis.In post 806, Gamma Emerald wrote:
I want know what is informing some of your reads rn, I'll say Creature Tim and Espresso for nowIn post 796, Pink Ball wrote:Be more specific
Creature because of the way he started posting. There was no need for his classic bullet posting shenanigans at the begining of the game but he did it anyways so I think he wasn't trying to look town but instead just being town.
Tim because when he's scum he waits for me to call him scum before calling me scum 'cause he knows that's the best way to disengage with me 'cause I don't like being called scum when I'm town. He scumread me before I said my read on him so he genuinely thinks I'm scum and there's no agenda behind. He knows I'm not an easy mislynch so he would've tried to push a wagon on me already instead of leaving me for later.
Espresso I can't recall but I think it was solely because he called me scum at the right time.
That's why LUV is scum too by the way, he townread me for my tone when there was starting to be some consensus on me being scum. That kind of "hot takes" without explanation are just to look good in case I get lynched.
we all see how this is distancing yeah?
hops on the FB wagon at a convenient time to make sure the mislynch goes throughIn post 901, Gamma Emerald wrote:In post 846, Firebringer wrote:how r we doing distancing from each other? do u think they believe it?
zzzzIn post 847, Firebringer wrote:woops wrong thread.
VOTE: Firebringer
also why not more concern that PB -- who you were scumming -- was on that wagon
yeah being lazy is a good reason to lynch someone, sureIn post 999, Gamma Emerald wrote:Did Menalque post that case at all, if not at this point he should probably be lynched-
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I don't think Cinn is normally lurky, he's pretty actively participating but I think that the outside circumstances could have been interfering with that so it's hard to call one way or the other
I think that sort of fits with his normal behaviour, but like I say, I think normally he'd be much more aggressive about his response
so how measured he was is telling when compared to his normal meta-
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I think that's Cinn knowing that he responds to people scumming him by scumming them and trying to play in line with his meta, but also knowing that coming on strong gets him scumread
normally, I don't think he'd worry too much about the being scumread thing because he's got out of it in both cases and he'd know that if town!cinn was lynched for it it would still help town based on the flip
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If it’s not pinging you that creature’s response to my case on gamma was to hard defend him and come after me instead (justifying it w tim’s reads) it should be
Also if we’re taking tim’s reads seriously (we shouldn’t, or at least not as gospel bc he’s been wrong on minimum three) then that would also implicate creature-
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I mean yeah that would be useful bc I’m really not seeing how creature is anything but scum based on how he felt the need to try that hard to defend gamma/deflect the wagonIn post 1316, RedPanda wrote:
I'm townreading creature. I think he was obv town day1 and when creature pushed for tims reads, I was scumreading him but he brought it back last night. I can spoiler post the creature posts which I found towny but again you might not be convinced but my reads have been better than yours.In post 1311, Menalque wrote:If it’s not pinging you that creature’s response to my case on gamma was to hard defend him and come after me instead (justifying it w tim’s reads) it should be
Also if we’re taking tim’s reads seriously (we shouldn’t, or at least not as gospel bc he’s been wrong on minimum three) then that would also implicate creature