Mini Theme 2182 - Legends of the Hidden Temple III - Over!

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

leave dance

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

what team is noraa

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

are you ready for combat noraa

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Gamma is chomping at the bit to go

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

what about VP baltar

lets yeet him

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

nuuuu me likey vp!

based on what

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i'm town af this game sorry bout it scumbags

who tf r u

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

so ur gonna throw the game to him if he's red?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

that game was funny

u had the most important TPR and u just sui'd :3

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

sneak peak of Team Dragon annihilating Team Monkey

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

sneak peak of Team Monkey wrecking some flimsy dragons

tfw monkeys think they're birds

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

cower in feaaaar

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

gamma lets fight these monkeys they're laughing at us and throwing bananas and shit

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I’m here to kick gum and chew ass

that's the spirit

CHALLENGE THE GREEN MONKEYS

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

let's go



VOTE: Noraa

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Noraa if you're town you need to vote baltar

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

the scum team is paralyzed by fear rn

or laughing at me

one or the other

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

let's go Cobra Kai

Strike Hard
Strike Fast
No Mercy!!

kill or kill

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

You're either scum or a gigantic liability

he knows he cant call me scum cuz scum dont hipfire on page 4 so he has to hedge with some liability bullshit doesnt even try to sort the other 2 people in POE

VOTE: Baltar

peeew peww

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

im not here to mess around

kill the guards

loot the treasure

let's go

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Lol I literally don't know your alignment. What do you want me to say?

good joke balts

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I AM THE MOST PROTOWN TEMPLE LOOTER EVER TO LOOT A TEMPLE

LARA CROFT AINT GOT SHIT ON ME

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

even your avatar looks like the bad guy from the tomb raider movies

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

lol r u trolling or what

ofc if you yeet me mr obvtown you will give d1 to the scum

hence your vote on me is anti-town af

hence you're anti-town

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

YEET TO THE SUN

Dragons don't fear fire

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

PFFT I'm laughing my ass off.

I was just telling vp that pooky loved me too much to challenge us.

NORAA YOU ARE SPECIAL THATS WHy IM HERE TO RESCUE YOU

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

PookyTheMagicalBear (2) : VP Baltar, Noraa

look at these cowardly poo slinging monkeys wagoning together

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i dunno

maybe

he didnt try to stop me from challenging right away

implies he does not have a FEARFUL heart.

OR HE KNOWS ME WELL ENOUGH THAT HE COULDNT HAVE STOPPED ME ANYWAY

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

oh man if baltar/noraa is G/G this is going down as all time best challenge of temple history

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

what did gamma not trying to stop you look like

i asked him in the thread, you can look for yourself

I HAVE NO SECRETS TO HIDE

PTS ARE EVIL THINGS USED BY EVIL PEOPLE TO POCKET UNSUSPECTING TOWNIES

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

NORAAA FLAILING

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i want to make her bus her guard buddy first

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

noraa bus baltar pls

save yourself

get that sweet bus cred

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i pinky promise you that if baltar flips Guard I won't challenge you tomm

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I changed my mind. Vp, I found an even cozier wagon.

VOTE: Gamma

noraa

baltar is bad for you

look at that cigarette

cigarettes are bad

do you get it noraa?

baltar is a bad man

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

VOTE: pooky

You're either scum or a gigantic liability

Noraa this might as well be a scum claim.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Vp and I've been talking in the pt and I think he's pretty townie and if I had to gun to head, I'd say he's town.

This is classic scum pocketing in PT play. Only dirty scum use PTs to POCKET townies. Town should NOT use pts.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

If you have anything relevant to say Say it in public. FULL TRANSPARENCY.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Boring
PTs should be used for shitposting

Yea obv shitposting in PTs is fine.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Vp and I've been talking in the pt and I think he's pretty townie and if I had to gun to head, I'd say he's town.

Imagine thinking it’s town indicative to HIDE townie thoughts in a PT in an open setup nightless game smh. You r either being pocketed or just making up things because you are scum too.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Ballad is so scummy

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

who?

you know who

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

its time to yeet ballot boy and deliver us from evil

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

pooky is scum or a liability

VOTE: Pooky

LOLOLOLOLOL

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

TFW scum have to kamikaze charge you to try to wrestle the game away from your iron grip because they don't have a nightkill

I LOVE IT

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

also can you guys please shut the fuck up and calm down and stop spamposting irrelvant contentless bullshit posts

you're going to cause mass replacements when people who went to bed early tonight wake up with a dozen or more pages to read

IMAGINE JOINING A GAME TO NOT POST WHAT IS THIS 2005!?!?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

you just gave away any chance of us scumhunting D1 for a lulzy meme challenge

this is hilarious coming from someone voting the most townie player to ever town

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

scum!noraa wouldnt SR town!pooky cuz its way easier to just pocket me with love and hugs

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

literally half of the posts so far in this game can be attributed to three people - you, noraa, and gamma. 103 posts between the 3 of you

the game has been open for like 5 hours.

i am asking you not to turn this into a spamposting clusterfuck because i know for a fact there are at least 5-6 players in this game that will not or won't keep up especially when the vast majority of your spamposting is irrelevant bullshit

if its irrelevant bullshit then every1 else can just skip reading it and play on like it's not there and it would literally not make a difference.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I mean, the sad thing is my gut thinks pooky could be this dumb as town. I really had no read on him when he challenged. And now my entire ability to read him has been colored.

wow we really going into personal insult territory now

bro we're just playing a game

chillax

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

town!pooky, the 3-4 times I’ve seen, has always tried to be logical and reasonable and I see none of that here

i am shocked that you would think cunning evil scumpooky would ever meme-hipfire on page 4 lol

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Also, pretty much never seen a Pooky town game where the best words to describe him are “logical” and “reasonable”. Those words are ones I’d reserve for scum!Pooky.
You’re welcome to counter this.

SOOO OOOOOOO TRUUUUUEEEEEEE

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

you were literally in one of the games I’m talking about

Spoiler: the first pooky post I saw

I have been thinking about the setup and below are some of my thoughts so far.



I've played similar games where there are rooms etc and one way to find the bad guys is to have a running tally of actions etc.

It seems one way the scum could kill people is by attacking them at night as one of their actions - as room exploration, lab deactivation attacks are not public actions.

In lieu of a standard nightkill, the scum have an anonymous attack - they also could attack somebody directly if they believe they have a good chance of killing them as a dead person is unable to say anything.

They can also use their nightactions to attack a person directly,

For example the entire scum team could attack Bingle and if they succeed in dealing him enough damage - he would not be able to tell us who his attackers were as he is dead.

One way I thought of to deal with this is if we coordinate our night actions on rooms that provide verification.

For example if all of us were to use the gym - all of us would get a speed increase of 1 - scum who would try to do something evil would not get this speed increase and be exposed.


Also @Nosferatu - what happened to your knowledge? Did the scum use their factional ability to reduce it? This would put you very close to dying if I am reading the rules correctly and you should go to the library to fix this.


Also as for mech-speculation - I do not believe it is a priority to destroy the labs currently as our player count is quite high - it would make sense imo to have higher knowledge players destroy labs.

A player with a knowledge score of 3 has only a 10/27 chance of de-activating a lab successfully - and failure would be a wasted action on the part of the town. Also the lower the probability of success is, the easier it is for scum to do something evil and pretend like his night-action was to de-activate a lab when it really was not.


~Fun

I ONLY PUT MY LOGIC HAT ON FOR MECH HEAVY GAMES THAT LOOK FUN TO SOLVE

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Pooky is a fucking idiot who I want dead regardless because he can just pull a similar action D2, and then what do people say?

WOW KEEP THE INSULTS COMING BRO

LOL @ "Pro-Scum Move"

Baltar can't call me scum so he has to keep attacking me as "scum-adjacent"

If Baltar flips green here I will not challenge again for the next 3 days

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Noraa - I don't have scum vibes yet. We made a deal in our PT to trust each other for now and reassess as needed. I'm ok with that deal for a day and I'm not gonna be convinced to yeet Noraa unless there is something truly compelling there.

this is 100% mafia pocketing behavior

there is ZERO excuse for a townie to be doing this to another townie in their private PT.

I wish okapoka was here to PREACH THE GOSPEL OF NEIGHBORHOOD POCKETING BEING ANTI-TOWN BEHAVIOR.

But he's not SO I WILL HAVE TO REPRESENT HIM.

If your neighbor is trying to get you to trust them in the private chat PT where there is no transparency and we can't see it, they are likely to be scum trying to pocket a townie.


THOU SHALT NOT POCKET YOUR NEIGHBOR IN THE PT!!!

People making "alliances, trust deals, fake bullshit" in their PTs need to be BURNED IMMEDIATELY.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

do not share reads in the neighborhood PT, share them in the PUBLIC thread where we can all see them.

The mafia have NO NIGHTKILL this game, so it's not like you have to hide your special leet super awesome reads in case the baddies pop you at night.

DO NOT USE YOUR PTS FOR GAME RELEVANT INFO. Post it IN GAME THREAD.

FULL TRANSPARENCY IS OUR FRIEND.

LIES AND HIDING ARE THE TOOLS OF THE SCUM.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I agree the "scum-adjacent" talk isn't fantastic, but I feel like his recent interaction with me felt genuine?

he knows i have to be town just off play so he keeps throwing the "anti-town behavior" hedge into it to justify his bullshit push

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I don't care who's pitch it is

if a townie pitches a shit deal to a mafia and mafia will still take advantage of that townie.

Noraa's been on this site for less than a year

you've been here for over a decade

you should know better than to make bullshit trust deals with your neighbor in the PT because that's how mafia pocket townies

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

That being said, considering you were one of the people who got snowed very hard by noraa last game we played (where me/Haschel/noraa were scum), I was curious if you had any insights into her from that perspective. Not so much "is she scum or town based on meta" but moreso looking for a peek into noraa the player bc my only experience with her so far was on a scumteam together

WAIT WHAT

WHY THE !)@)# WOULD BALTAR bE JUMPING SO HAPPILY INTO TRUSTING NORAA IF HE BEEN SNOWED BY HER BEFORE

PPPIIIIIIIIINGGGGG

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Posting in the PT that I think you're an idiot rn.

you are so lucky lilith made me promise not to do any personal insults so I can't completely annihilate you.

I am a beautiful flower

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

So NoraaScum just burned Baltar-Town and now

Noraa tries to do a "trust-deal" with Baltar in their PT and Baltar accepts it?

Tell me baltar, what behavior do you see different from that game where she badly snowed you that makes you confident you can read noraa this time?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

In terms of what I'm applying to our PT interaction, I think it's too early. Noraa feels town to me at this point. She is being consistent in her PT reads and what she is saying in thread.

lol is this a troll reason baltar?

"consistent PT reads"

we're in like page 10

its not exactly hard to be consistent 1 day into the game lolololol

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

like there's no way this is an actual real thought in Baltar's head, it's some rubberstamp bullshit when he doesnt have a reason he just slaps it on.

Yeet Baltar - he will flip red

get your bus cred early folks this is nightless

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

"Noraa is town because her PT posts and her public thread posts are consistent"

yea cuz scum noraa is so bad she will post completely contradictory things in the neighborhood PT and the public thread 1 day into the game.

your "read" is a joke dude

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

you're an idiot

btw when I played with Scum!Noraa i killed her at elo for a town win

when you played with scum!Noraa you lost to her badly after getting snowed

think about that the next time you hurl another personal insult at me

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

If it weren't for everyone else thinking I were scum in death curse, you would've gotten snowed.

lol are you serious i had you at scum from d1 do you know how long i had to lie to gloria so she wouldnt kill me

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

If it weren't for everyone else thinking I were scum in death curse, you would've gotten snowed.

I literally called you scum on Page 6 d1 and had to hide like a refugee just to get a chance to scroll you at the end lol


all that shit I said about Bell at the beginning of Elo was actually about you.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

like you knew i was trying to shoot you for 3 days

you said it yourself in the scum PT :3

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Btw where did VP call someone an idiot?

Also I think calling someone an idiot is much less offensive than being like "hah Noraa snowed u in a game whereas she didn't do that to me"

One is slightly offensive. The other hurts people's pride.

I'm disproving his idiot attack on me with actual data

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Pooky is a fucking idiot who I want dead

I mean, the sad thing is my gut thinks pooky could be this dumb as town.

Posting in the PT that I think you're an idiot rn.

You're very emotional, pooky. You ok?

Since Noraa apparently can't see her partner launching personal insults at me.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Fwiw, I don't care. I don't take self worth out of wins and losses on internet forum games. Pooky can talk shit all he wants.

you're literally calling me an idiot for making a play in an internet forum game

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

ok starting off

challenging on page 3/4

is not an objectively bad play

it gets us to the meat of the game faster, forces everyone to take a stance on a narrow POE, and we get to engage in hand to hand combat instead of allowing the scum to mold whatever narrative they want.

Even if this is a 4 town challenge(which odds are its not) if we are able to really determine everyone is town here, that's still 3 townies that will be valuable in a NIGHTLESS game where scum CANT KILL THEM.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

That's why a town perspective entering this POE-4 should be to figure out who the bad guy is and push them.

Instead Baltar's perspective is

"let's kill Pooky cuz he's an idiot"

"let's kill Pooky because even if he's town he's helping scum"

He's not even trying to find the bad guy, he's decided to autoslot Noraa as green despite having no legit reason to do so.

He's decided he wants to kill Pooky despite more or less knowing Pooky is green because Pooky isn't playing according to some arbitrary standard of goodness he's decided on.

This is scummy as hell behavior and not a town mindset at all.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Neighborhoods are inherently anti-town in a nightless open setup.

There is literally no excuse to hide game relevant information in a non-transparent closed area where most of the town is unable to see it.

You don't have the excuse of worrying about scum nightkilling someone for having good reads or w/e.

You don't have any softs or hidden role info to speculate about.

Most of the times when towns lose in open nightless games - such as Dance Game etc where everyone has a closed PT - is when scum successfully pocket a townie in a PT.

It also gives a scum-scum PT the excuse to say "oh we're solving in the PT" or "my partner is super town cuz of the PT"

If you re-orient your thinking and instead say - is it

A) Better that my game-relevant thought is only able to be seen by my partner and me

or

B) Better that my game-relevant thought is visible to everyone for full transparency.


99% of the time B wins over A - there are very few instances where A is better.
Using a PT to establish trust and pocket is 1000000% scum-indicative play and townies should not be engaging in such play.

There are 4 scum in this game, I don't know how they are positioned but if there are 4 T/S neighborhoods and each scum pockets their townie and bends their thinking in some hidden insidious way, the game is totally lost.

People should NOT USE THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS FOR GAME RELATED THINGS. IT IS BAAAAD

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

No. I think VP is town and he is a green monkey, on my team.

justify this TR

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

He isn't throwing around AtE unlike you two.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA FROM THE QUEEN OF ATE HERSELF

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

His thought process is towny and I follow along quite easily.
Much townier than gamma or you for that matter.

ok sure show me what thought process is townie

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Have I thrown around AtE this game at all?
No. BECAUSE YOU EFFING MADE US MISS ALL OF RVS.

what's wrong with getting to the good part early?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I didnt mean anything dirty by that!!!!!

I also eat dessert first at meals!!!

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

WHAT YOU WENT THERE FIRST

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

what a bait

ok but real talk baltar probly is scum

get that bus cred pls noraa

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

cuz he has you pocketed noooraaaaaa

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I love how pooky claims a) I'm terrible at mafia because I lost a single game to Noraa,

I have not said you are terrible at mafia

i have not insulted you in any way.

you are the one hurling personal insults at me that I am refuting with actual game results.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Wild notion, but 46% of the posts this game are from noraa and gamma so how about the two of you chill out and let some other people talk instead of suffocating the game?

me gamma noraa baltar take a time out and let the other 8 people talk for a day or two ok?

I'm down for that

Baltar Noraa Gamma?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

ok so just noraa and gamma need to agree and we will take a 48 hour break for the rest of the game to talk ok?

dont pocket her more in your PT

me and gamma will not be discussing any game relevant stuff in ours

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

this is a prod dodge

i am still on exile because people are complaining about how much I am posting

im glad to see baltar posting and not honoring about our agreement - confirms my view that he's a lying treacherous snake demon

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I would like to subscribe to this newsletter*

*This post is devoid of game-related material in order to comply with an exile agreement formed between 4 players in order to get the rest of the game to post more.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

lol

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

why are you even making a deal for a day to trust each other

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

that doesn't answer "why"

i have a lot of problems with it

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Because I think starting a neighborhood on trust carries an expectation that Noraa is transparent with me. If she fails to deliver on that transparency, which she proposed, then I will be able to easily see scum motivation. Scum can't keep up the charade indefinitely, and the more she talks, the more I can assess her alignment.

Agreeing to a day of openness is hugely beneficial for me to read her (and I'm assuming that was her intent as well).

why would you think its better for Noraa to post her thoughts in a PT where only you can see it rather than in the public thread where all of us can see it and evaluate it?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

First, she's not just posting her thoughts in the PT though. No one has said that's the case. Second, I think I have a greater responsibility -- and frankly ability given the PT -- to assess Noraa's alignment compared to the rest of the town.

If this is back to your point that no one should use PTs to talk about the game with their partners, I don't agree with your premise.

Do you honestly think we are the only two players talking about the game in our PT? If no, do you think that's scum indicative for those other players?

1. I never said she is posting only in the PT and not posting in the thread. My point is that there is not an actual need to hide any thoughts in the PT that you would not post in the thread. Your point about a "greater ability" to assess Noraa's alignment compared to the rest of the town is exactly the point I am making. Why would you nerf the rest of our ability to assess Noraa by allowing her to post thoughts in the PT that she is not posting in the public thread?

2) Ok then propose a logical reason for why anyone would hide something in the PT that they are not sharing with the rest of us. I have made it clear what the case for transparency is:

A) There is no scum night-kill, you don't need to worry about being killed for good reads
B) There's no need to speculate about Power Roles or Softs, this is a fully open MT Game.
C) There's no need to influence scum-nightkills by hiding what your actual beliefs about the game state are.

Show me some good reasons for why people should be posting hidden thoughts in their PT. Don't just say "I disagree" make an actual case for why you would disagree.

3) What the hell type of counterpoint is this? I'm stating why I think it is anti-town behavior to be using PTs in this format, I have made my case why. I would hope everyone would listen to me and actually populate the thread with their thoughts and ideas instead of hiding them in a PT. Now if everyone chooses to not listen to me that's on them. I'm not saying every person who posts in a PT is scum - I'm saying everyone should not do it.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

pooky, did you ever explain why you challenged noraa in particular? Was there a reason beyond memeing?

this is a funny question lili because I'm shocked it took 16 pages before some1 asked me why I challenged them :3

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Like obviously I did it for the memes cuz Baltar was making fun of my team being iguanas

but like looking back now he is pretty shady and I think he probly does flip scum here.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

ok whatever just dont get pocketed by your partner cuz ive seen that happen way too many times to count.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I think its more suspicious that Noraa literally just tricked VP baltar in a game and proposes a trust deal to baltar in her PT and Baltar just instantly takes it with no paranoia of Noraa at all.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I'm saying your reaction to Noraa proposing a trust deal to you is suspicious given that she literally just snowed you for a scumwin.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Your framing of that game is inaccurate, but anyhow...

My point is, what makes you think I haven't improved my ability to read noraa now that I've had more experience playing with her? Further, I stated how I see it as advantageous to my ability to assess her alignment.

You keep saying she's the victim here, but also I'm getting snowed and duped by her or whatever. You see how this argument is illogical, right?

no I'm saying town!you would feel more paranoia of noraa and wouldnt just instantly take a trust deal right away hence we r dealing with scum!you

thats not logically inconsistent at all

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Like obviously I did it for the memes cuz Baltar was making fun of my team being iguanas

Did you come into the game planning to issue a challenge in the early pages regardless?

^please answer this

shooters gonna shoot

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

what soul read?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

if you help me yeet baltar and he flips red i will let you challenge cakez tomm

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i mean you're asking me to support your SR when you won't support my SR

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

like if Baltar flips red I will be running this town with an iron fucking fist so I can grant your request to hunt down Cakez

but if Baltar flips green obv you won't have to ask for my approval :3

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I as if u believe in me

it'd be a lot easier to believe in you if you help me elim baltar-scum.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

hes probly green cuz u want to yeet him

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Gamma has too many SRs and almost all of that readlist just looks like my reads that have been scattered around this game grouped together and then tweaked to sound more gamma-y.

No no. I don't think this is town gamma.

VOTE: Gamma

I want to hear baltar's opinion on this post right now

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Gamma has too many SRs and almost all of that readlist just looks like my reads that have been scattered around this game grouped together and then tweaked to sound more gamma-y.

No no. I don't think this is town gamma.

VOTE: Gamma

I want to hear baltar's opinion on this post right now

Scummy to say you'd yeet everyone basically

Baltar defending noraa even though she is straight scumspewing with that post lol

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

like can someone explain to me how 615 makes any sense whatsoever from a town POV?

Why would Gamma!scum who is the leading vote-getter and in a semi-gladiate decide to hurl a bunch of SRs around... as scum? Is he trying to get himself yeeted off the face of the planet? Is it some weird wifom trick?

When is too many SRs even a scumtell? Which of his SRs do you disagree with? What part of his reasoning do you disagree with? Instead it's just "too many SRs must be bad" like whaaaat?!

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

VP called out the post? am I just reading his response wrong? what do you mean?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

oh i thought he was agreeing with her that Gamma was scummy for SRing everyone

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I thought you were townreading noraa, what changed?

um it's literally in the post you are quoting. 615 is scummy to me.

I'm thinking about moving my vote over but I want to see how baltar reacts.

right now he's saying it's scummy but he's still voting for gamma? that's kind of weird?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

noraa who do u want to yeet today ?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

um the point of full transparency is for the rest of us to trust you...

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

who do you want to yeet today?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

can i autochallene again if noraa flips red?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

noraa,

who do you want to yeet today?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

um u still havent answered who u want to yeet noraa

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

This is some seriously weird twilight zone posting from Noraa

690 paranoia about Scum!Baltar setting her up for the easy pushlim by UT - 4:52PM
693 asking cakez why he doesn't support Pooky!wagon, cakez is scum 4:53PM
695 nobody turns on her when she is scum, so if people r pushing her she's town? (lol never forget d1 death curse) 4:58PM
697 lied about trusting baltar in order to drop his guard so she could get a read on him? 5PM
700 I'm not even acting high and mighty this game? 5:03PM
702 I don't trust anyone so I won't be transparent? 5:04PM
711 notsci is pushing 2 PLs - notsci is scum with cakez 5:12PM
714 Isn't sure who the scum is in the 4 players or even if there is a scum; also here's a bunch of reasons to suspect Gamma! 5:17PM
715 Here's some reasons to suspect Pooky. 5:18PM
718 VP Baltar now has "weird posts in the PT" He is now pretty pockety. um this post is a doozy. I'm going to have to go back to this. 5:21PM
720 Promises to insta-challenge Cakez yet again. he is "confscum" 5:23PM
724 Claims she's never been in a neighborhood before and she might be reading too much into baltar's comments - 5:25PM
726 says she doesn't know who she would want to yeet from the 4 players up for elim.[/quote]


The biggest thing that's weird here to me is that she refuses to give an answer for who she wants to yeet. Like after 690, 718, you'd expect her to be pushing Baltar but she refuses to do that and I don't quite understand why yet.

My paranoia reason that could make sense is that Noraa/Baltar is actually S/S here.

I also looked at Noraa's progression on Baltar and I'll do with that in my next post.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Noraa on Baltar Progression:

127 "Vp and I've been talking in the pt and I think he's pretty townie and if I had to gun to head, I'd say he's town."
128 "VP is very nice and his thought process is fairly townie. I won't be voting there today."
232 "Methinks me agrees with VP for the most part."
367 "No. I think VP is town and he is a green monkey, on my team. I certainly prefer gamma and Pooky over him."
370 "His thought process is towny and I follow along quite easily."
371 "He isn't throwing around AtE unlike you two."
376 If he was scum, why'd he say it that way?
it makes him look nothing but bad.
377 "He could've come into the thread and just left out that part and I wouldnt have said anything."
390 "me don't agree." [response to me saying baltar is scum]
487 "For the most part tho, I still pretty solidly believe that VP is town."
566 "I don't even think vp is scum."
574 "I honestly currently am leaning all 4 in the limpool being town in which case .... taking out me is probs the best play considering im not generally helpful to town."

674 is where Baltar turns on Noraa fully and votes her.

3 hours later:

690
"I first started thinking u were scum when UT posted a case on me.

I found the case absolutely ridiculous and just like a tiny amount of time before I had told you I was worried about getting limmed day 1.

After I said that to you, a bunch of people openly voiced TRs on me and I was like Huh this is strange.

Then suddenly out of nowhere a shit case pops up and my first thought was "Did VP tell him i was an easy target?"

I haven't been entirely transparent in the pt bc I don't trust u entirely and I feel like that's reasonable and you can't expect full transparency."

Justification for her change on Baltar:

697 "I literally don't care. I wanted to know if you were town and the only way was to make it seem like I was 1000% convinced you were. Only when you're relaxed can I get a somewhat accurate read.

Saying this really doesn't help me whatsoever cuz now I can't read u that way but idc that was my plan and it didn't help me cuz I still don't know >:("

717
"VP has weird posts in the pt. He's being pretty pocket-y I won't lie.

I feel like he's been trying to push reads from him onto me.

Also I just feel like I've said a ton of scummy shit in the pt and he hasn't really addressed it.

His one time he was "paranoid" of me felt a slight bit fake."


717 feels very weird in context with everything. It feels disconnected with the rest of what she has posted about him prior to 690.

690 leads off with the justification that she was first clued in to his scumminess when UT made the case on Noraa which was in post 455.

697 tries to claim that she is just placating Baltar to get him to open up to her so she can read him.

717 claims he was always scummy.

None of this fits together, it feels like 690,697,717 are things she just made up because they contain different justifications for her progression shift from baltar is pretty townie to baltar is creepy pocket guy. Like if 717 is true, why even talk about UT's case on her being the impetus?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

lol ok

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i have a life outside this website noraa

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

VOTE: pooky
if we're not doing VP then I guess I'll do this.

rofl what a troll vote

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

baltar is scumm waaah oh u guys wont kill him!?!! lets kill the guy whos trying to kill baltar then lololol ok gamma

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Off wagon we have:

SirCakez - scum
AGar - be really weird if he hammers me after TRing me for so long.
PookyTheMagicalBear - will be extremely disappointed but not the first time pooky couldn't read me.
Gamma Emerald - will be really weird if he hammers also.
Lilith2013 - a maybe scum candidate regardless of hammer.
notscience -scum

The hammerer will be in {Notsci, Cake, Pooky, Lilith}

what r u even talking about noraa

when have i misread you

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

u can't tell me you never TRed me once in death curse.

It wasn't so much TRing you in DC as I was just demotivated by being shouted down by an avalanche of people who kept screaming you were conftown and IC level town and it was either go along or get killed.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

the probability from my POV knowing my role PM is green is

(7/11)(6/10)(5/9) = 21%

the probability from a outsider POV holding a green role PM is:

(7/11)(6/10)(5/9)(4/8) = 10.5%

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

people who say "these 4 people are probly all green" let's just policy elim this one.

either

(A) Don't understand how probability work

or

(B) Have incredibly strong reading ability on all four slots.

or

(C) Scum trying to excuse pushing a town mis-elim through.

You tell me which one you and notsci are.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

21% is the odds of all 4 being town from my POV knowing I am a townie

10.5% is the odds of all 4 being town from a outsider POV holding a green role pm.

it's funny as hell notsci thinks we're in the 1/10 scenario in which all 4 of us are town.

Cuz if you believe that then the game is already won, we elim one of us, notsci+3 survivors = 4 player townblock, just elim every1 else and you win.

he's probably scum trying to excuse a shit push on me based on "policy" and being lazy.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

which one are you notsci


(A) Don't understand how probability work

or

(B) Have incredibly strong reading ability on all four slots.

or

(C) Scum trying to excuse pushing a town mis-elim through.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I mean I know how probabilities work dude. Didn't even matter who I challenged, odds are there's at least 1 scum in the group.

I also know in this game what happens is scum fish for the weak link in the town chain, look for who is easy to mis-elim on a bullshit case, then drive a narrative push down the town throat.

I'm here to kill bad guys. I'm not going to let some bad guy dictate where the game state flows.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I don’t care about your probability and have decent townreads on all of you, yes

I don't care about your decent townreads.

Are your townreads "Bet the fucking farm on this guy being town" level?

If they ARE, then you need to lay it out, you convince every1 and you have a 4 player townblock that can auto-win this game.

And if they're not, you don't have the excuse to policy elim a townie in the pool cuz you don't feel like doing the work. That just lazy and scum!indicative.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Wouldn’t that have been Noraa, who I would have been 100% justified in hammering as I repeatedly said I would autohammer only to back off because my read changed?

I’m not even pushing you that hard you’re acting like I’m actively campaigning instead of passively placing my vote

I don't give a shit about who dies or who actively campaigns.

I care about your reasoning for your vote.

If it's "these 4 are all town and I am going to policy elim ___" I think that's scummy as hell no matter who ____ is

I don't even care you picked me

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Or I’m town who doesn’t really give a shit because the entire reason were in this mess is the person I’m voting thought they were gods gift to scumhunting and made a stupid choice that effectively ruined the day, but I’m not knowingly hammering someone in strong townreading bc I don’t have the stones.

LOL GODS GIFT TO SCUMHUNTING ROFL IS THIS A TROLL

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

and btw nice shift from "all 4 players are definitely town let's kill pooky" to "I am not going to hammer noraa cuz I strong townread her"

not the same thing

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

have you figured out who you want to challenge tomorrow yet to beat us to the punch then?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

probability of what? I think your math might be off.

probability of all 4 of us being town

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

But I don't have that much conviction on you being scum VP. I just think you're the most likely out of the 4. But if we're not doing you I'd rather do pooky who I'm not strongly town on

gamma theres 8 town players and we need 7 votes to elim someone

so why r u giving up

thats whack

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I'm not sure Noraa has graduated from the Institute of Soul-Reading yet.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

reck is probly scum lol

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i felt like revelations had more to chew on i guess. this just feels like empty calories because pooky dumbfucked the whole game into this aggressively stupid challenge

even if there's scum in these pairings, like, we had no time to learn anything. no time for analysis on anybody threatening challenges or whatever. it's just "here are the four options, go"

so i have no motivation to try to read anybody else right now. and considering that 4/4 of the highest spamposters in the game are in the possible yeetpool today, like, i really don't care all that much about who goes because i'm going to aggressively protect my sanity by not forcing myself to read any of your ISOs or posts in detail tbh. i mean im reading ... most of yours VPB but that's an old school professional courtesy.

p.edit: fuck if i know

this is mad scummy

tho that could also be because he's reck

lulz

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

lol ok buddy

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

lol epic

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Pooky's really dodgy when I ask him to vote me :O

but he also says I'm scummy ...

If people want to make this happen,
I will support,

VOTE: Pooky

r u trolling noraa.

hardclaim scum and ill vote you

I have Noraa-AtE immunity from DC.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

it's like that thing in anime where someone jiggles their hand on a sword hilt and everyone dies

this is lit

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Ideally I'd like to see Red Jaguars and Blue Barracudas go up today. or let's run it back with Orange Iguanas and gimme a second chance at Pooky

is this a troll

did you even vote for me the first time

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

let's go Cobra Kai

Strike Hard
Strike Fast
No Mercy!!

kill or kill

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Also, why say that about me, but not pooky, who I don't think has even posted any content this phase?

i thought people were tired of me posting shit and wanted me to shut up tbh

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i am glad Notsci has issued me my IC card for the game.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i cant wait for reck to hulk smash someone

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

gamma are you conceding that chess game btw?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I stopped after you made an advanced play after a suspicious pause, because I suspected you looked it up, when you had previously stated you weren't that good, so I was like "man I'm not gonna play against someone so interested in winning he's gonna look shit up against me in a casual game like this"

lol what

imagine thinking I'd cheat at chess.

ridiculous

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

do you think lilith is not an easy push at this point?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

cakez what do you think of baltar's latest post :3

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

VOTE: agar

La da la da.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i still think you're scum

you're pushing lilith so I am going for Agar.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

and opposed Pooky's idea of the limpool not talking D1.

lol what a mis-rep

I said we take a 48 hour break to let the thread breathe because some people in the game were complaining we were posting too much and drowning out the thread.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i still think you're scum

you're pushing lilith so I am going for Agar.

I can't believe UT said you're good at this game.

I can't believe he said that either

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

honestly 1250 just smells so bad :3

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

lol wut

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

are you on drugs right now?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

no i gave up on trying to hold everyone's hands cuz idc that much nemore

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

oh look guy who was scummy was scum. thank you lord.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Of the four, I find Gamma's sustained behavior most likely to come from scum

okay but I don't think it's gonna happen

What convinces you Gamma *shouldn't* eat the yeet?

@VPB

The shift in 953 & 955 is throwing me a bit of a loop - care to help me out here? 953 seems to insinuate you would like a Gamma yeet but the vote 2 posts later obviously strays in a different direction.

959 seems to miss the entire point of what UT brought up in 946 wrt reading other players. I'm unsurprised.

979

Narrator: He did, in fact, misremember.

@Reck

re: 981 - Pooky's challenge was anti-town but do you see anything in the followup to indicate scum? Or are you just finding the pool largely homogenous and that's enough to sort out among the four?

If you're not sharing, this picture means nothing to me.

For just a short drive down to St. Yeet, you too could have some of these delicious cookies.

And in 1016, we can see the wild scum circle back to the very thing that was brought up in 946, oblivious to the fact itself.

1024 bad, 1033 ignores basic common sense.

re:1038

1. Gamma
2. Pooky
3. Noraa
4. VPB

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

If I'm ranking yeet preferences, it's probably something like:

1) Lillith
2) Cakez
3) AGar/Starbuck

Not sure who I'd take out of the Blue Barracudas if I absolutely had to pick there.

lol

can we yeet this yet?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

VOTE: lillith

You seem to make a lot of excuses. I asked for simple bullet points, you provided one weak ass reason and then say anything more than that is a "full blown thing."

I think you've had an entire game to contribute something substantial, and you're completely background. I believe you that work is busy, but there is a point where it just comes across as a lack of motivation because no one is forcing you to contribute: a scum mentality

this post is still awful lol

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

like this is what you write when you're playacting on a badly written soap opera

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

You’re wrong on me but I can’t really give a good reason why

how about agar trying to yeet you for most of d1

are we even reading the same game

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

remix to ignition

hot and fresh out the kitchen

let's see what everyone else thinks

im ready for baltar v gamma round 2

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

VOTE: Baltar

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

What does that accomplish? Why not let some other person step up and that way there’s a new set people are taking stances on?

dont be a coward fight him

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

considered what

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

nah i have total faith that my bro GE is totally 100% town

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

gamma r u seriously not going to swing back lol

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

this is so disappointing

is this SvS or some bullshit

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I think I want to kill baltar regardless of what gamma flips at this point lol

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

like this weak ass response from gamma is very ++scum if he's scum with baltar

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I think I want to kill baltar regardless of what gamma flips at this point lol

did you see 1442? what do you think of exhibit a? I could see the weird reluctance to defend oneself coming from a multiple-scum pool, but their pairing doesn't make sense to me.

im not sure whats supposed to make me think this cant be S/S

I want to murderize baltar.

his interactions with agar r pretty shady.

im disappointed by gammas weak response to getting challenged. id think hed have more steel in his spine if he was actually town here.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I think a both-scum theory actually fits pretty well with gamma (and also vp to an extent? don't remember exactly) insisting that the pool was all town

Lillith, still scum y'all.

this post would be hilarious if all 3 of them were scum

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i wouldnt put it past haschel

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I can't believe notty scored higher than me

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

is he trying to pocket us because he's about to die?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

cuz like if anything works on me it's making me get a high score in an arbitrary thing.

this could be like who has the best looking avatar rankings and i'd be pocketed.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Wouldn’t that imply gamma town lol

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

"It didn't feel like he really cared who died between Noraa and you."

I'm responding to this line.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

my point is that even though he claimed noraa was townie and gamma was scummy it seemed like he'd let Noraa die just as easily
which makes the conviction behind the Gamma push seem fake

yes but why would that imply Gamma = Scum?

like if Noraa/Gamma were both town, would Agar want to have his hands on the wagon that gets elimmed or just be like hands off, Noraa dies, he gets to say he wasn't wrong?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

im not sure how VP Baltar is still alive given his love connection with confirmed Criminal Agar.

im ok with killing gamma tho cuz he's clearly not smacking VP hard enough to get out of S/S range for me.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

make the VP Baltar case I know town!you could make if you were town here.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Lol guess who are the two jokers in the bus slots on the AGar wagon.

this is rich coming from Agar's fucking defense attorney himself

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

um we yeeted scumAgar who you were in love with buddy

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

nice revisionist history

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

VOTE: lillith

You seem to make a lot of excuses. I asked for simple bullet points, you provided one weak ass reason and then say anything more than that is a "full blown thing."

I think you've had an entire game to contribute something substantial, and you're completely background. I believe you that work is busy, but there is a point where it just comes across as a lack of motivation because no one is forcing you to contribute: a scum mentality

btw I printed this out just so I could read it out loud to myself in the mirror and I end up cracking up laughing every time.

I'm not sure how you even could type something this terrible.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

um we yeeted scumAgar who you were in love with buddy

Your personal vote was just in opposition to me, so it was a dumb luck vote on your part since that's the wrong reason.

I don't actually think you're scum pooky, that's why you acting dumb all game has been so annoying. But keep doing what you do.

only scum are concerned about "right reasons"

townies are all about killing bad guys. reasons be damned.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Oh my feelings

I'm not trying to hurt your feelings dude.

I love you <3

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

is it really tunnelling if you keep doing scummy things lol

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

this is the towniest post i've seen from reck

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i've been towning the whole time go read my iso

I said TOWNIEST POST

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

If ur worried about spamposts why aren't u voting pooky LOL

VERY UNFAIR

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

POOKY EXPLAIN......

explain what?

i've been put on a post limit by the killjoy police over here.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

IMAGINE THINKING I WOULD CHEAT AT CHESS HOLY SHIT