Mini 1681: Pokémon Mafia (Abandoned)

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Figure out who is scum; attack them.

If someone is a (Town) Psychic type, Buy Heal Pulse ASAP.

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Whoever attacks who is public, right?

So, Scum cannot attack obvtown/conftown.

That means if our Heal Pulser is obvtown, he does not have to be afraid of being publicly outed, because scum cannot target them.

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I wonder what the advantages of being a Dark Pokemon are... is it only just knowing their teammate's alignment? Because this seems suspiciously like a Nightless...

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I wonder what the advantages of being a Dark Pokemon are... is it only just knowing their teammate's alignment? Because this seems suspiciously like a Nightless...

I've mentioned that it's a warped version of a 4:9 nightless.

Hmm........

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VOTE: Kari

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yeah but in a few days, scum will actually do something dumb and get swarmed worse than you think

also

untarget

why untarget

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sorry sidetrack, got to say this

@ASP
i freaking love simple plan gosh

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sorry busy, will probably only be back in 24 hours

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prododge

i'll try to post 2 hours later

APOLOGIES

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ok i'm here and gonna catch up
saw this first so

This inactivity from a hydra is deeply disturbing. Both heads are this inactive? Really? Hmm...

well MS is overseas and i'm busy with the SEA games so yea

Target: Burn

bad target bro

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bleah i fell asleep reading cause it was 12 midnight

MS IS OVERSEAS

i don't get the fuss about randommidget and the flame orb he bought

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i texted MS for help lol
he will be here later to sort you guys out cause i'm not having an easy time reading this game

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i don't get the fuss about randommidget and the flame orb he bought

I believe that it's an easy way for scum to get town-cred, but so far it's just me.

i think that's possible but far-fetched

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MS IS OVERSEAS

IDGAF where MS is, I KNOW he is posting on this site, so why isn't he posting here?

i don't think he's posting anywhere lol

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MS IS OVERSEAS

IDGAF where MS is, I KNOW he is posting on this site, so why isn't he posting here?

Sup, diggity dog?

You scum Boon?

Because I'm a hydra and expected my partner to cover for me in this game? Plus this is a pretty boring game.

Kari is obvscum, don't disengage. I was pretty joyed when you pressured her and she gave a scum response. Then I don't read this thread for 2 days and I get a text from Mainez and you are here pushing for lurking? Lol.

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I voted Kari before it was cool

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Whoever is "scum reading" my slot is probably looking for an easy target lol.



whatever.

BBT I'm town. Pinky promise.

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Ok let me predict your response to me

"So why aren't you contributing to the game? What are your reads? Coasting doesn't help the game, you know."

My reply is

"I don't think there is any need to move my vote away from caught scum."

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OK, but your partner didn't cover for you, did he? In fact, he did pretty much nothing for the whole time.

Now, I have a question; have you been posting on this site? Because your hydra buddy seems unaware of it and I would like to clear it up...

I mean, I like Kari for scum as well. It's just, at least she posts and will be easier to catch in the long run. I'm sick of letting scum lurk by while active townies slit each others throats because they're the only one's around.

As for your final post; you don't think you need to engage with anyone else in the game? There is more than one scum, you know this right? Tunneling is an easy scum tactic to avoid interactions with other players and I'm not a big fan of your play so far.

So, how about you get started?

Nope, I haven't been posting on the site. (Except in TM dead PT) I'm only here cause I got an SOS and then it's you. So I am fine with talking to you so that you can clear up your read on my slot. If it was some other random then I'd tell them to bugger off




Lol, I understand your good intentions to pressure and get responses from lurkers especially from yours truly, but dude there's still time I'll do stuff when I get back. This is a v v v low priority game plus there's caught scum so lynch obvscum and we can continue talking

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So you have been posting. Thanks for clearing that up.

Why were you able to post in that TM dead PT and not contribute to this game?

I'll bet you're fine talking to me; I'm one of the last people you want pushing your wagon.

I look forward to your contributions when you get back, remember, we only had a 1 week deadline.

Because TM dead PT is exciting and this game is not.

Cold. Truths.

And my partner doesn't have knowledge of that, so it's not her fault.

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And, you should know better that "lurking" is NOT my MO as scum? Don't push that angle. Dude.

I'll promise you contributions to this game, but under good faith. Because I would do it as town (and as scum too, but whatever).

The game needs me. Or something.

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It could be exciting if you contribute.

I mean, replacements have already started and we have numerous lurkers. If you're unsatisfied with the current state of the game, you should do something to change that.

Yeah ok.

Youuuu wanna herald a scumlynch on Kari first and get some blood pumping and scum blood dripping? Or just do random questioning and hope someone is enthusiastic enough to engaged your bored bones?

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What can I do to make you feel that I'm town, that can be done in 5 minutes?

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Nyankotchi and Bellaphant are likely scum, copying easy reads

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an in depth explanation will take more than 5 mins

Can I go now, teacher?

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Because I'm a hydra and expected my partner to cover for me in this game? Plus this is a pretty boring game.

Kari is obvscum, don't disengage. I was pretty joyed when you pressured her and she gave a scum response. Then I don't read this thread for 2 days and I get a text from Mainez and you are here pushing for lurking? Lol.

This is not a town response.

That was a town response.

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Nyankotchi and Bellaphant are likely scum, copying easy reads

I've been thinking this...

Why did you target me if my reads were likely coming from town?



Bellaphant's latest post is not a town post. Suck on that, Prohawk. Learn to differentiate town and scum posts PLZ

I'm thinking Kari/Bellaphant/Nyankotchi/(Marcrell?) at the moment. Strongest-> weakest reads. Marcrell sounds like bad lynchbait to me. Too many people hopping on him for bad reasons, and he is just bad. Similar to Mcmenno, but for some reason you don't see Mcmenno getting much pressure. When I return. I will investigate if my scum list here were happy to attack Marcrell but not Mcmenno. Just a hunch.

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Like, 277 and 283 are mostly bullshit scum posts to "look town" after being called out.

If you can't see the obvious, then I'll be snidely explaining the obvious maybe in 2-3 days latef

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BBT I would like you to disengage on me unless you want a town-led-but-scum-infested wagon on my slot which by the rights should not be the case if you value my town skills.

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Lucky is town, btw. But 2 town votes on a wagon sets off the 3rd vote, statistically scum, before snowballing into a mess. AAAAAND it's going to demotivate me from putting more effort into the game than I originally should have to counter all that shit, and perhaps I may just decide to flop and die to save time from all of that nonsense (yelling, making cases, defending, looking town, etc etc) after all.

Though you can say that it's debt from my lack of participation earlier, and accrued interest, fair, but this is a bank that I am fine with letting the bankruptcy hit, so bleh.

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Question Burn:

In 255 you say your slot is an "easy target". In 269, when asked for who you think is scum you give us "easy reads". Why are your easy reads valid, but an easy target based on someone's read of you invalid?

no MS didn't give you "easy reads", he said Nyankotchi and Bellaphant are scum for copying easy reads

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now that MS has kicked off some stuff, i should be able to contribute

(apologising to MS through text, i practically forced him here to save this lousy head)

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I'm kinda biased, but would rather see a Marcrell flip over a Burn flip. Burn would you please convince me on Kari scum? Also, McMenno is being replaced... so new reads based on new player will be in order.

I'm sorry, the sheep is too cute

This is a scum post? :S

Kari's response to BBT's spikes in pages 2-5 are literally caught scum. That's the best "evidence" I can give. Working off that; because nothing much else to find for others, and that response is a really strong scumdar alarm

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now that MS has kicked off some stuff, i should be able to contribute

(apologising to MS through text, i practically forced him here to save this lousy head)

Yeah ok no sweat.

I'm away for 10 hours cause I'm flying back so cover me if stuff happens

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Pretty suspicious regarding Prohawk's interactions with regard to Kari+Bellaphant. If he is scum, he's likely going to be THE scum mastermind.


That's right bro, FoS on you.

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^probably got a message in her daychat scum pt "dude, target burn, it's safe, you won't look scummy for omgussing!"

as I predicted, 3rd vote on my wagon is by scum.

You are the one who is a scum tactic

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Who the fuck are you? Sakura fucking Hana?

You're confscum. Calling me scum for tunneling? Hah!

Using meta to defend yourself when you make yourself an alr? DOUBLE HA!


I'll eat my short if Kari is town. This is a caught scum reaction and you guys just don't know how to identify one.

If I were at home, I'd be grabbing and slamming you for 5 or more pages until you drop dead.

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^
just admitted she's scum

also said we are scum and town in the same post

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^ is most definitely scum. im this close to shouting obscenities at you. i had more than enough fucking tunneling against me and im to the point where i will fucking beat your ass until you fucking die, in this game.

im gonna do nothing but fucking prod dodge if this is all you're gonna do.

and in case you dont understand why im so pissed off at you, its bc you probably, at one point, played with me, AND KNOW THIS IS HOW I FUCKING ACT WHEN SOMEONE PISSES ME OFF SO MUCH. LOOK AT ONE OF GIF'S TOUHOU GAMES WHEN DUMBASS HAJ FAKED A GUILTY ON ME.

im done. i need to cool off. go hunt actual scum rather than tunnel one unlucky person and pray they're scum.

Like, are you literally fucking joking here? "You played with me before! This is how I always am! Why can't you see it? I hate you! You're scum!"

You're an alt, for chrissake.

Cool off? Don't give me bullshit here. I've got enough fake rage detection training from Hana and a couple of others. From the situation you describe, you seem like Feirei. Don't remember, will check later.

And you know I have a high tolerance for bullshit. Go ahead with your "obscenities", let's see how great your vocabulary is.

Caught scum is caught.

This, my friends, is scumhunting.

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oh hey MS we posted at the same time LOL

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Oh hi there.

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301 is referring to 299 btw

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You'd still have hit the pagetop anyway, so ithe arrow's be blocked.

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yea that's what i said in 301

convinced Kari is scum???

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Hello everyone. Sonic is back.

#336 by Prohawk is pretty good. I also picked up the "scumreading Kari <slightly>" thing.

A Marcrell flip has a higher chance of flipping scum than Kari.

In this cool setup, we can KILL THEM BOTH!


I'm removing my Nyankotchi scumread for now. Putting them as nullscum. ISO feels "OK".


My scumread on Bellaphant has gotten stronger. In particular, I hated this part:

also, BYHD might actually be town.

Seems strongly to be an attempt to appease me or disengage from a wagon that players are no longer pursuing. Following the BBT and Lucky unvotes, this seems like yet another attempt to follow consensus and go with the flow.

For example, did Bella explain <why she thinks> that I "might actually be town"?

This is a slapstick statement that can be applied onto any player in the game.

"X might actually be town"

"X might actually be scum"


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I have strong townreads on the following players: BlueBloodedToffee, Lucky2U, ZZZX, A Simple Plan,.

I have weak townreads on the following players: Prohawk, randomidget

And these are the remaining players: Boonskiies, Marcrell, MarioManiac, Nyankotachi, Kari, Bellaphant

Of which, I have stronger scumreads on: Kari and Bellaphant


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The setup of this game allows for multiple targets. Targeting within a lynchpool.

I want the votes to all converge to <Kari, Bellaphant, Marcrell> since there are wagons there on Marcrell anyway.


Unless you are town and have a positive buff/action, please vote within those three people.

No reason to put your votes anywhere else.

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"

Like uncooked dough, my Pokémon are sticky!

" ~ Baker Chelsie (B/W)

Target Count 1.07:

Marcrell (4):

ProHawk, ZZZX, Nyankotachi, Lucky2u

Kari (3):

Burn Your House Down, MarioManiac4, BlueBloodedToffee

ZZZX (2):

Bellaphant, Marcrell

Randomidget (1):

Randomidget

Bellaphant (1):

A Simple Plan

Burn Your House Down (1):

Kari

Not Targeting (2):

Boonskiies

Deadline is in (expired on 2015-06-13 13:49:26).

Marcrell has been prodded, he has (expired on 2015-06-11 15:09:20) to pick it up.

The above highlighted votes should not be happening.


I understand that randomidget is self-targeting to use Trick or something. Do use it on a scummier player (OBVIOUSLY.) Especially when you're able to get their expensive item in exchange?

You know what's cool, if you Trick a scummy person and you receive an item that is worth more than $1000, like a $1100 item, you effectively copped them and got a Guilty. Cool stuff.

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OK. Bellaphant's vote on Kari makes me uncomfortable.


I would rather have randomidget Trick to Kari. And if he receives an expensive item, she is 100% caught burned scum.

VOTE: Bellaphant

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@byhd, I started to change my mind on you specifically because you'd made some really good points about Kari, and seemed actively engaged in perusing your reads. Even your scum-read of me makes me feel better about your slot, perversely. I could've signaled that better, sure.

I didn't like how you criticized my predecessors vote without noticing I'd unvoted literally a few posts ago, and then were also unhappy with my next one: it seems a little reachy to me. Either way, I'm having trouble coming to a read on you right now, but I'd prefer if we kept interacting.

Where did I criticize your predecessor's vote?

I've made it clear that I'm unhappy with your posts, not your predecessor, and not his votes. So where is this coming from?

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"

Mostly I breathe fire, but want to exchange numbers?

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Target Count 1.09:

Marcrell (5):

ProHawk, ZZZX, Nyankotachi, Lucky2u, Kari

Kari (4):

MarioManiac4, Bellaphant, Boonskiies, A Simple Plan

Bellaphant (2):

Burn Your House Down, BlueBloodedToffee

ZZZX (1):

Marcrell

Randomidget (1):

Randomidget

Not Targeting (0):

Deadline is in (expired on 2015-06-13 13:49:26).

Target Phase will end early in (expired on 2015-06-13 06:21:27). If anyone unvotes this countdown is removed and if anyone changes vote it will be reset.

OK. I am pretty happy with this votecount. Unless one of the scum has a buff/healing power that is being used on one of their own, this is the optimal votecount.

Marcrell/Kari/Bellaphant are the leading wagons.

Due to the "attack" nature of this game, multiple scum in a lynchpool can be splash damaged in a day, so we can get all of them at once.

I'm not sure how I feel about Kari, I think I don't think she is scum anymore. Too many opportunists jumping on the wagon for my liking. You agree that Kari wagon is ugly? If so, why? Further, why are you still on it?

What do you want to talk about re: Mario?

With regard to this, I'd like to mention that I still have a scumread on Kari.

Looking at the wagons, Kari/Bella/Macrell actually probably contains 1 town. I mean, 3 scum all wagoned on Day 1? Unless they're bussing or similar shenanigans, it's unlikely.

Kari may be that town. I don't know.

But it doesn't really matter. They can all die.

This game allows it.

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Target Phase will end early in 0 days, 22 hours, 21 minutes. If anyone unvotes this countdown is removed and if anyone changes vote it will be reset.

[untarget]kari[/untarget]

[target]Mario[/target]

Hmm. This caused an extension of deadline.

But meh. 5 hours later never hurt anyone.

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I have Lucky as very strong town.

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Longer post later but @BBT i am not down for a Boon target.

Votes today should remain on Bellaphant/Marcell/Kari. Which is happening. Which is good.

Add mario to the mix, I guess.

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deadline is paused till we get a replacement

bleah

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Fina-fucking-ly.

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prododge...?

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Okay. Nobody died.

So what did we learn last night?

Randomidget, what did you receive from Bellaphant? Did you receive an expensive item... etc?

Anybody had an investigative-type role? Any results? Do share.

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BBT, did your move not work on Boon?

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btw, why are you asking PN and not like Bellaphant who was the only one targeting Mario

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And I almost added Lucky to my list where Kari is, but I didn't want to overthink it. If Kari's town, Lucky's probably scum. This game's hard to read for me.

I

really

don't think Lucky's scum.


I'm waiting for randomidget to tell us if he got a really expensive item from Bellaphant or not. If he did, it's a guilty.

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I understand that randomidget is self-targeting to use Trick or something. Do use it on a scummier player (OBVIOUSLY.) Especially when you're able to get their expensive item in exchange?

You know what's cool, if you Trick a scummy person and you receive an item that is worth more than $1000, like a $1100 item, you effectively copped them and got a Guilty. Cool stuff.

Head. Toilet. Put in. Flush.

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VOTE: Kari

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prododge

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prododge

sorry that we have been neglecting this game, we will get back to this game soon

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oh wow hi pisskop.

i'll catch up on this game after my paper today.

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how mean.

i'm Mainez, this is a hydra with Metal Sonic.

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ah apologies, we are having exams right now and when we have time, we kinda focused on our own games, our bad.

i know i said i'll catch up on this game after today's paper but i promise to catch up tomorrow instead cause i don't have a paper tomorrow.

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because i have priorities lol

which is why i said i focused on my own game which i also said is my bad

i shall get out of here and focus on studying now

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BYHD have gone back to doing very little after their little activity burst during D1 when I pressured them for lurking.

Is this alignment indicative?

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Here's my excuse:

The deadline mechanic in this game is fucking retarded. We have to wait out two entire weeks in order for a day to end, even though most decision have already been made. The main discussion for today is already over, we're just twiddling our thumbs and waiting for deadline to run down because (?) There was no kill the previous day and no new information being gained.

This game is fucking boring, and every time I click Coney Island and see the title unchanged from (Target Phase 2) I don't even bother to click the last post in the thread and read this boring stagnation of everybody waiting till deadline.

The last time you called me out in D1 for 'lurking' was when I was enjoying myself overseas... it was very memorable. Now, it's almost a month later with almost no progress in the game, and me and Mainez are having exams. We literally give no fucks about the state of this game.

Do forgive us if this game is one of the lowest priorities right now.

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@Arceus

Dear God of Pokemon,

I wish for a

End Target Phase Early

option where the Target Phase can be ended if a majority is reached.

With love,
Metal Sonic

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target: BYHB

so now we can progress <3

Do you know how to read tone? My previous message was quite frustrated, so I would have snapped at you if not for the '<3'.


We're one of the most universally townread players in the game. Go put your vote somewhere useful.

Thanks.

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Hey, BBT already hates you. Stop being annoying.

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Although I did chuckle a bit at BBT's frustration. It's rare to see him snap like that. <3 you too, bro.

But really. Put your vote on scum; if you don't know who they are, then go find one.

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Kari is likely going to die if I target her. Especially if I get a TM like Im comtemplating doing. Thoughts anyone?

Yes, I would like her flipped.

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ok... i see Sonic decided to be the bad guy and speak some truthful words lol but i did catch up and honestly, there's nothing much i wanna comment on.

zzzx vs bbt looks like town vs town, i don't know. i think we will have more information with some flips.

pisskop, your vote is wasted on us, pls target kari so we get a kari flip.

mario can you target so we can stop being stuck in this phase, thanks.

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prodge

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Scum ^^^

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@Mod Requesting replace out.

I wouldn't blame her.

This game

really is

fucking boring.

Not bad, setup-wise, but deadline management is just stagnant stew.

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Bluntly, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING has happened IN A MONTH.

Need I say more?

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Damn, I was wrong.
Fortunately, Perpetual Nonsense flipped scum, as expected.

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VOTE: mario

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Yo Boon!

Kari and Perpetual Nonsense have reached 0 HP, and have thus fainted. Their role PM's were:

Perpetual Nonsense: Turtwig

Type:

Item:

Amulet Coin

Money:

$500

Kari: Blitzle

Item:

Eviolite

Money:

$0

500+0 is not the amount of money I received. At least ZZZX speculated as to how it was a scum-slip. What say you?

I am also a bit upset that Burn CONTINUALLY ignores my accusations/questions toward them, and CONTINUALLY pisses and moans about this game.

ZZZX, why isn't Burn in your scum pile, and you put me in a potential fourth place contender?

I'll ignore you for as long as your accusations remain unjustified, and frankly nonsensical. And you can continue remaining upset.

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I'm no longer moaning -- we have a scum flip.

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Pro, can I ask how much money you did get?

Thanks

This doesn't make much sense because almost anybody with a brain can go to the front and count how much you're /supposed/ to get.

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3 people on me.

Well, shit.

I don't think I have seen a single reason. WTF...

I'd defend you. If you weren't throwing shitty potshots against me for "inactivity".

Fuck you.

For trying to solve the game.

Incorrectly.

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Which means Lucky or PK are the scum on my wagon.

Really? Lucky is my strongest townread.

I suspect you just randomly accused the people on your wagon to be scum, but unfortunately that's not alignment indicative behavior.

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It is if I believe Mario is scum and I'm the only other viable option if you scum don't want to be on the Mario wagon right now.

Who is this posting?

Sonic will post like this. Mainez will be posting in nocaps.

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Noted.

I'll try to prod dodge every 47 hours.

Alternatively,

V/LA until Attack Phase

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Fuck that shit, just move on to the next phase, else I'm replacing out too.

If they didn't put in a target, then ignore their action in the action phase and/or mod kill them while looking for a replacement. We shouldn't have to wait days to weeks for one-two bad apples.

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If you can't find a replacement for the slot within 72 hours, please mod kill it.

Thanks.

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Nyankotachi's slot should also be euthanized if a replacement cannot be found within a reasonable period of time.

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Players not taking action really screws up the balance of the game, I also do not know what to do right now. Thanks to all of you who did stick with the game, it's appreciated.

How about you make the action for them based on what would be logical, then? Every Pokemon has 2-4 moves, it isn't difficult to automate that.

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If the next phase doesn't start in 5 days (120 hours), I

will

replace out.

I suppose that sounds reasonable.