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I take it you scumread AP as well then for being the one to suggest it?In post 68, UnaBombaH wrote:...aaand this is scum for wanting to create a third equal wagon in their first post.
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Why are you switching accounts for this game?In post 117, Almost50 wrote:
YES. AP is my alt. Thank youIn post 94, Rob14 wrote:Almost50 replaces AP, who I take it is his alt? Please confirm that just to be clear, thanks.-
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What are your town and scum stats?In post 118, Almost50 wrote:Almost50 is my main and is the one I keep stats for.-
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I have sigs turned off, but thanks for the IIOA.In post 126, 0verki11 wrote: There are some in his sig.-
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In post 157, Gamma Emerald wrote:
Didn’t Pers just ask about that, and now he’s deflecting the conversation?In post 138, Persivul wrote:
I have sigs turned off, but thanks for the IIOA.In post 126, 0verki11 wrote: There are some in his sig.
Point is that he was answering a question which was directed at A50.In post 158, stan1ey wrote:I dont think he was deflecting the conversation but there was no need to say overkill was giving information over analysis when he was simply answering a question-
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Uh...what's the logic of that?In post 219, stan1ey wrote:If Overkill flips town anyone who doesn't vote Persivul is scum
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So what's your point - two town wagons are impossible?In post 227, stan1ey wrote:Post 201 has nothing to do with my read on you-
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You're implying a logical link between Overkill being town and me being scum.In post 219, stan1ey wrote:If Overkill flips town anyone who doesn't vote Persivul is scum
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One possible explanation is that you don't think both wagons can be town.
If that's not the link...what is?-
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Says the person who ACTUALLY put him at L-1, after I pointed out that I wanted the true count there so I could see if/who would put him there. You've changed your vote now, but only after A50 posted a town read on him.In post 237, stan1ey wrote:Because all youve done all game is ask pointless questions that only serve the purpose of making you look like youre doing something and jumping on the bandwagon of lynching overkill
If he flips town its obvious you are mafia trying to slip under the radar and lynch the LHF
As you said in another game:I'd say mafia are more likely to push for people to get to L-1 early (especially if that person is town) as it cuts the day short and gets them a kill.-
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And BTW - that's not at all how I play scum.In post 237, stan1ey wrote:Because all youve done all game is ask pointless questions that only serve the purpose of making you look like youre doing something and jumping on the bandwagon of lynching overkill
If he flips town its obvious you are mafia trying to slip under the radar and lynch the LHF-
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How about sash and springtrap? I don't see any significant scumhunting from their ISOs, and that's what you're scumreading me for.In post 255, stan1ey wrote:Persivul vs Overkill who's been scummier give me a straight answer
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Have you considered that overkill may be lynchbait, and he'd be better as a cop/vig/whatever target than a lynch?
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And?In post 262, Chateau Lobby wrote: Oh man.
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I thought he was just really bad at haiku.In post 264, Clemency wrote:
does this guy always talk like christopher walkenIn post 256, Chateau Lobby wrote:
Both are aIn post 255, stan1ey wrote:Persivul vs Overkill who's been scummier give me a straight answer
Fine lynch.
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This is the scummiest post of the game so far.In post 219, stan1ey wrote:If Overkill flips town anyone who doesn't vote Persivul is scum
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Fair enough for one day. I suggest you really think through your role and consider other possible roles in the game though. There really aren't many fully confirmable roles in the game, and if you come in tomorrow with some BS story about how you read your role wrong it won't sit well.In post 269, 0verki11 wrote:Im self confirmable btw, will confirm tommorow.
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People are going to accuse me of coaching (although scum daytalk is now common), but anyway:In post 274, 0verki11 wrote: I mean I realised there maybe a scum varient of my role. But I can atleast confirm my ability exists.
What if scum have a RB and target you?
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You seem pretty confident that you'll survive until tomorrow. You've claimed a PR of some sort. Aren't you concerned you'll be killed tonight?In post 276, 0verki11 wrote:Then when you kill me, it will be confirmed that scum has a roleblocker.-
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I love playing scum. I played IMO one of the best scum games ever. When I replace out, it's for reasons other than my alignment.In post 278, Almost50 wrote:I'd also keep an eye of Persy, despite my own narrative about him replacing out often as scum. I've seen him do it like 3 times before, but I'm not 100% he'd do that everytime he rolls scum.-
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IIRC the mechanics were too confusing - wasn't fun.In post 285, Almost50 wrote:What was the reason you left "inception"??
If you thi nk I can't play scum, check out this game:
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Course without checking to see how many times I've replaced out as town, those 3 instances don't mean much. And even with the town replace outs, you wouldn't have much of a sample size...or knowledge of what else might have been going on in my life.
Tactical replace outs are against the rules, and you insinuating that I do so on very weak evidence is pretty douchey.-
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Then just STFU about it.In post 294, Almost50 wrote:I wouldn't call it a tactical replace out seeing as it's done very early and before anything develops in the game.
Because I don't want a false reputation for tactical replace outs, and that's what some people will take away from it, even if you can technically claim you weren't charging that.But I have no idea why you're even dragging the subject out.-
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We could change that if you like.In post 301, Springtrap wrote:It appears shutting up is a legitimate strategy around here. That doesn't really work with my friends.
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In post 260, Persivul wrote:
How about sash and springtrap? I don't see any significant scumhunting from their ISOs, and that's what you're scumreading me for.In post 255, stan1ey wrote:Persivul vs Overkill who's been scummier give me a straight answer
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In post 204, stan1ey wrote:Does nobody else think Persivul is a better lynch than Overkill? his iso consists of 2 RVS votes, irrelevant questions and throwing shade at LHF for answering a question
Sure looks like you were scum reading me for not scum hunting.In post 320, stan1ey wrote: 1) i didn't say i scum read because you arent scum hunting
2) CL was voting for Overkill, i was trying to convince him youre a better lynch so why would i bring up sasha or springtrap in that context?-
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Dragging in another person to justify your vote is scummy af.In post 304, Gamma Emerald wrote: You know I noted the odd choices for who to switch to and the conclusion UnaH reached supports that
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Probably.In post 323, UnaBombaH wrote:Overki11 is likely never able to conf.town to us anyway,
If he actually is a town PR and we lynch him, we've done scum's job for them.so delaying their lynch until ??? seems stupid.
If he's alive going into tonight, scum have to consider the possibility that one night will allow him to damage them. They may kill him rather than risk it, saving us a mislynch.-
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Town cohesion? When did Una give you a town read?In post 347, Gamma Emerald wrote: So realizing someone sees the same shit I do is a bad thing? Alright, from now on I won’t try to collaborate, I’ll just push whatever and whether others agree with me isn’t my problem. /s
Like, what the fuck is your deal that town cohesion looks scummy to you?
Una looks very likely town, and you're piggybacking on that.-
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Just bad, or scummy?In post 364, Not_Mafia wrote:This is a tragically bad post-
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Why do you give (very small) cases on your outside scum reads, but don't provide anything on me or NM? If scum read us more than them, surely you have reasons, right?In post 341, joges wrote:So, I think A50 liked his scum team and switched accounts.I'm betting it's him, Persivul and Not_Mafia.This is where my head is and this is the thought I like the best of all of my thoughts. I wanted to defend the switch, but now I don't like it. The reason I don't like it is because you wouldn't do it without a reason. You wouldn't log in, post a few times, and think "Nah, I'm gonna switch accounts" There's something that made that trigger happen. Also, the post where you essentially coach all of the town PRs on how to handle you N1 is groossssssss.
VOTE: A50
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Stan1ey, in 209 you were fine with another lynch and kept your vote where it was. Just felt blah, like a person who nods yes with their finger's crossed behind their back.
Overki11, who had 245 and 250 combined to make what felt like manufactured fake slip.
I'm find thinking the rest of the game is town, and would help lynch any of these. Let's lynch A50 first tho. ty.
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In a Normal, if scum have day talk (without an encryptor), it must be noted by mod.In post 388, GuyInFreezer wrote:Hmm unless it changed Normal games suppose to include the info if daychat is enabled, right?-
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OK, you're scum reading me because:In post 391, joges wrote: No, I'm scum reading you because when I play it out in my head I see A50 wanting to play seriously for a reason. So they I have to think, what reason would make him want to play seriously? And the reason I come up with is because he likes his scum team. So then, why does he like his scum team? Then I read his posts where he loves on all the great scummers in this thread and I've picked you and Not_Mafia as his partners. Until someone provides me information that gives me a reason to think something else, my head remains here.
- A50 wants to play seriously, as evidenced by his switch from his alt
- He wants to play seriously because he rolled scum with a good scum team and wants the win for his records
- He just went ahead and openly named some players that would make a good scum team
- You picked two of those named players
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No trap. I think your argument is so bad that, as long as people accurately understand it, they're not going to buy it.In post 398, joges wrote: I feel like your questions have been hoping for me to give you a simple "Yep" answer to what you are implying. While you're not ever far from accurate, your wording looks like a trap.
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There's more than one way to skin a cat. (Sorry PETA )In post 464, Xtoxm wrote:Get a wagon going and I'll look it at, Pers hasn't really been towntelling in the way I'm used to-
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Exactly.In post 470, Clemency wrote:where's the rest of it
CL's response to that:
I don't mind votes...but I'd like actual cases to go along with them. Kinda helps people sort things out later after flips.In post 375, Chateau Lobby wrote:Less is more.-
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In post 451, Chateau Lobby wrote:
Yes, you agree with xt, who agrees with overkill.In post 450, stan1ey wrote:No i agree with xtoxm, i think he could be scum but we might as well wait as see and lynch elsewhere
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Do you agree with Stanley's rebuttal?In post 452, stan1ey wrote:Nope youre wrong: xtoxm doesnt agree with overkill. Overkill says his role is self confirmable, xtoxm says that because overkill role is confirmable we might aswell wait and see, and thats what i agree.
That does not xtoxm agrees with overkill and therefore i agree with overkill-
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Three things:In post 477, Xtoxm wrote:Pers. You've posted enough that I feel like I should have got something town from you. What's your vote on springtap about?
- he hasn't done any scum hunting, as I've noted
- partially just a "Fuck you" to 301
- I feel pretty good about it because Una, who's one of my townier reads, later voted there for awhile.-
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The rebuttal isn't based on the truth of overkill's claim.In post 479, Chateau Lobby wrote:No. Overkills claim was fake.-
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Una gives reasons for what he does. NM doesn't. Big difference.In post 482, Sashaddin wrote:But... you say yourself above you trust UnaH playing 1 game with the guy; while this is at least the 3rd time I play with N_M. Yet you scumread for all this? Come on.-
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It can, but you have to be very careful in interpreting the pushes.In post 509, Sashaddin wrote:Being a target can indeed tell a lot.-
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So why do you hit from the red tees?In post 510, Sashaddin wrote: <------------------- he, not she;-
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CL, are you aware that the no kill was already explained by Clem?
I know you don't have an investigative result on me. This is a normal, so there's no redirects.
I don't think you're such bad scum that you'd unnecessarily fake a claim which will get you lynched tomorrow.
The most reasonable explanation I can think of is that you're town JK, you jailed me last night, there was no kill, but you missed Clem's claim.
Correct me if I'm wrong. Or, lynch away, and die yourself tomorrow.-
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The time for hints is past. He's hinted enough that scum already have him marked as a PR. He needs to explicitly claim now. I'll gladly give myself up today to lynch scum tomorrow, but I don't want to see a town mistake result in two town deaths. And, if he's scum, I don't want him to have any weasel room tomorrow. Hell, if he makes a full claim and it shows me 100% guilty as he's said, I'll vote myself.In post 725, Xtoxm wrote:Cl said he's "not town" and his "night action payed off" that's pretty heavy hinting
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