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Hmmm I have the opposite at this point in my reading.In post 77, Alchemist21 wrote:I can’t tell if you’re joking or not. I don’t think replaceme-out requests are supposed to be public anymore.
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This made me giggleIn post 99, Montosh wrote:Things that are not town-tells:
- Frustration
- Enthusiasm
- Saying "I'm Scum!"
- Saying "I'm Town!"
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This post is odd timing imo as I thought the Vork posts immediately preceding this were pretty uninspiring but I'm eager to hear why I'm wrong!In post 243, ofrhz wrote:I think Vork is town-
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Another post that I oddly disagree with! Kublai at this stage of my reading I think you’re town but I am more strongly thinking that Montosh is town so ???In post 279, Kublai Khan wrote:Add me to the group of people that sense strong scum-vibes coming off Montosh.-
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Sorry for the spam posting but I’m reading on my phone and want to keep track of this post in my ISOIn post 304, Kop wrote:I don't even know who to vote for.-
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Oh man yes amazingIn post 329, rosterfoster wrote:
Yeah that’s what I thought. For *reasons* I know that is not at all scummy for Montosh to say.In post 326, Kublai Khan wrote:
It refers to Post 99.In post 323, rosterfoster wrote:
The post I think you’re referring to I know is personal opinion because *reasons* so isn’t scummy in the slightestIn post 321, Kublai Khan wrote:- Anti town-tells
Is there a reason that you've appointed yourself as Montosh's lawyer and/or spokesperson?
I think you’re town and you’re just completely on the wrong track with Montosh, so I want to fix you <3-
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I’ve read like most-ish of the game and so far I think roster and Montosh are the town we can believe in. Pisskop may be town too but I’ll need to see if they ended up doing anything with the ridiculous reactions to their self-vote. I think kublai is town, but dude I think basing your reads entirely off who agrees with you is dangerous.
I will be keeping Kirari and Creature as tentative town for now.
I keep thinking that I should feel better about Nero and LUV than I do but I don’t and that’s worrying me!
Jesus wasn’t someone I thought much of but I thought his question to me was pretty harmless and I don’t understand the reactions to it.
I don’t really like Otter, ofrhz, HWS, Kop/new person, or Red. Why so many people that worry me!!
Oh and I think Alchy is more town than not. Not sure what to think of pink avatar yet.
This will be it from me for now but I’ll read the parts I haven’t read and re-read some things to clarify my reads a bit later.-
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I can’t think of a witty reply to this right now but just pretend that I did!In post 707, rosterfoster wrote:
I would be privileged to lay in your pocket <3In post 705, DeasVail wrote:Please have my chick babies-
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I agree 10000% about Kop being super scummy and the first post in particular was alarming to me just because what's the point in talking about how you don't know who to vote for? Isn't that what happens in RVS and you just vote someone? Or you can just not vote for anyone and just say what you think? It's just a super scummy post.In post 828, Nero Cain wrote:
like here he is being shat with his voice and vote and being hesitant.In post 304, Kop wrote:I don't even know who to vote for.
In post 305, Kop wrote:Don't like the idea of the forcing claim from Red, I am fully aware that he is high up on the wagon list, but it's still early stages.
Here he's defending a scummy ass Red for ??? reasonIn post 307, Kop wrote:Don't really see anything in Reds ISO that is pinging me as scummy. :/
shouting down the HWS bandwagonIn post 403, Kop wrote:What are you hoping to achieve? Its virtually a empty slot at the moment in time.
we are 24 pages in and he has 0 scum hunting and all he's done is pressure vote?
But Niko's entrance made me unsure if I was right on Kop or not and I'm still trying to work out what's going on there. I'll finish my catch-up and let you know where I'm at.-
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uhhh what?In post 881, Eyes without a face wrote:@Niko: If I volunteer to be lynched today and I flip TOWN, would you be willing to volunteerily eat rope on D2? No ifs and buts. Consider it your vig shot on me and then die for your bad reads )if you're town to begin with). Please say yes.-
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I’ve just gotten to work and so I don’t have any more time after this, but I was actually thinking...In post 939, Niko wrote:If Eyes flips red (what happens 29 out of 30 times), I would lynch LuckyOtter next by the way.
VOTE: LuckyOtter
Eyes might be scum, Niko might be scum, they might both be scum! ( :O ) I don’t actually know! And that’s the thing. I can’t work out what’s going on. There’s a lot of noise and I keep going between town and scum on both of them and I can’t sort it out right now.
But if I had the choice of lynching anyone in this game right now it would be LuckyOtter and so that’s where I’m going. I know that they’re V/LA but every time reading a post of theirs when catching up it just felt... empty. There were questions askedbut I couldn’t work out why or for what purpose. There seemed to be commentary here and there but not much real assertion of opinion anywhere. I probably could explain this better if I had more time and I’ll check in later today if I can but this is where I’m at right now.-
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Kublai, I’m more confident in Otter being scum than in Niko or Eyes being scum. If I need to then I will make a decision between them but until then I will vote for the person I feel most comfortable lynching and that’s Otter. There is clearly a lot of disagreement when it comes to Eyes vs. Niko but a lot of people have indicated that they believe Otter to be scummy so I made the vote with the belief that a wagon there would be possible. I don’t think it’s helpful to see it as only x vs. y with no option outside of that. Why limit yourself like that unless you have to? There’s still time-
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We have significantly longer than 48 hours.In post 941, Niko wrote:Deas, we only have 48 hours. Otter isn't getting lynched.
I've been calling eyes + otter as scum since I've replaced in, shouldn't you trust more me in eyes as well?
Today lynch will be either Eyes or me, so make your decision.
I whole heartedly recommend voting Eyes of course.
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Their play to me feels very elaborate which could come from scum playing an elaborate game but it gives me pause I guess. I find myself thinking, “would this really come from scum?” and I’m often not sure.In post 964, ofrhz wrote:Deas, what did you find towny about niko?
Otter’s play fits in more with how I expect scum to typically play, hence my preference for that vote.
Kublai, I have unfortunately had limited time and even as I’m typing this I’m at work. I only caught up on the game a few hours ago and only decided to vote for Otter shortly after that. What I know is that I’m not entirely comfortable with lynching eyes or Niko right now and wanted to float a different option out there while there was still time. But I won’t have an extensive case or anything on Otter if that’s what you’re hoping for.-
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I puck Niko.In post 980, Nero Cain wrote:assume Niko and eyes are in gladiator combat. Who do you puck?
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I've looked over Otter again and there's not much more I can say that I haven't already. He just fits with my expectation of scum. There's content with questions and opinions here and there but there is nothing risky in his play, the posts give me the vibe of "going through the motions" and posting in response to things because that's what a townie should do, rather than there being genuine efforts to *find scum* behind his posting.-
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I’m intrigued by this reaction. I thought hammering Niko there was entirely reasonable and like you’ve said, it was going to happen anyway. Why would you need to apologise or be forgiven for it?
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Kublai, you worry me.
I'm becoming increasingly concerned that your posts "at" me are not actually genuine attempts to read me.
For example, here, wouldn't it have made much more sense to wait and see if I was actually going to "coast on that vote then switch to whoever was getting lynched if needed to avoid a NL", before mentioning that it's what you're assuming I'm going to do? I was unlikely to be lynched Day 1 even if that was what you wanted, so why the rush to tell everyone about how my plan was to coast on the Otter vote so soon after I first mention my interest in lynching Otter? It would be a much more compelling, and logically sound, argument to wait until the Day ends and then, if I do as you expect, tell everyone about how I did a bad thing or whatever.In post 971, Kublai Khan wrote:Your posts give me the distinct impression that if I hadn't called you out, your plan was to coast on that vote then switch to whoever was getting lynched if needed to avoid a NL.
But you know what? I didn't think too much of this in isolation. People get excited, people get eager. It happens.
But then we get to...
What the flying fox?In post 1103, Kublai Khan wrote:@DeasVail - What happened to your LuckyOtter vote and case?
It's approx. 12 hours into the day phase at the time of your post, it doesn't take much effort to notice that I'm in Australia and realise that the Day started at 1am my time or whatever, and I made a single post questioning a post made shortly after night ended at 8:30amish my time...
So why are you asking that question? Why would anything have "happened" to my LuckyOtter vote and case?
Again, if you were interested in how my read of Otter progressed, I feel it would have made more sense to wait and see what happened.
Instead, you seem desperate to fling dirt at me before the dirt has even materialized. It's as if you're using whatever you can to build a scumread on me, but are not actually ready to commit to it (if your ??? read on me is anything to go by). And why not? To use your line, you've been around long enough to probably know that I was considered a strong town player back when I played more regularly. Have you been hesitant to go all in on me because of that? Have you been hoping that your ethereal dirt would get others to scumread me and do the work for you?
Convince me that I'm wrong.
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And now LuckyOtter.
I find it interesting that he commented on things during his catch-up, but never made any mention of my vote on him while he was V/LA.
Because I'm pretty sure my reaction would have been something along the lines of:
"DID YOU THINK YOU COULD GET AWAY WITH VOTING ME WHILE I WAS V/LA HUH!? HOW OPPORTUNISTIC!"
Okay that might be a bit of an exaggeration, but seriously. I kind of expect people to be at least a little bit self-consumed. After all, just look at my self-consumed concerns about Kublai!
Hey, I don't expect everyone to be exactly like me, but I find it odd that Otter talked about Jesus' gun comment, Nero saying that town shouldn't play like Roster did, and Kublai having an issue with roster moving his vote around (pretty innocuous things tbh) but not have anything to say about the big glaring elephant in the room of me voting for him. With the "commenting on things of interest to him" catch-up style, it seems unnatural that he didn't comment on that.
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There’s clear evidence that you’re thinking about things yet there also seems to be a distinct lack of care for what other people think of you (and this doesn’t seem to be in a showy “I don’t care” way either).
Example is you talking about not liking the top wagons yesterday but also not particularly trying to “look” like you were doing anything about it. I think it’s pretty commonly understood that it’s a bad look but I don’t think it’s actually scummy. I also see your Jesus vote as an attempt to help something else happen but that also “looked” bad because of the nature of the vote.
Essentially I think you’re doing stuff but not putting much effort into making it look good, which is kind of the opposite of what I’d expect from scum.
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You should have more faith in yourself! I think it’s far more useful to town to have everyone share unique opinions rather than just follow others out of a lack of self-confidence.In post 1194, rosterfoster wrote:But my reads have been next-level shit recently so I’m thinking about hopping on.-
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I was actually just thinking about Alch because I realised I had forgotten he existed, though I remember liking this post from him. Even though I disagreed with the reasoning, it seemed kind of assertive for scum but I’m less convinced by it now.
I still don’t think I’d pick him for scum, but I’m interested to see what you think.In post 340, Alchemist21 wrote:I think Roster’s scum trying to pocket a range of people. Their only scumread is HeWhoSwims which they’ve voted 3 separate times so far. Meanwhile there’s a handful of Townreads that were given in quick succession. I don’t see the sincerity behind most of their reads. The defense of Montosh feels like they’re white-knighting a Townie.
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Reading through Vorkuta and Jesus again, I still stand by this.In post 1247, DeasVail wrote:I think Vorkuta is more scummy than Jesus fwiw, and I also have serious concerns about Lil Uzi Vert
585 is concerning to me. Why is Vorkuta calling Creature low-hanging fruit here? Does it betray the fact that this is how Vorkuta hopes people will see Creature. It doesn't make much sense to me that town would say "but I don't go for low-hanging fruit as scum!!!" in regards to someone they're actually scum-reading. Whereas I could say scum feeling comfortable saying it because they're not targeting low-hanging fruit, they're targeting scum.
405 seems overly concerned about getting flak for an RVS vote. I could see town being more inclined to shrug it off and move on.
I also disagree with their Creature votes being particularly significant. There's a lot of loudness re: Creature being scum but little in the way of substance that would actually get Creature lynched from what Vorkuta posted, especially with the "low-hanging fruit" comment.
Also 823.
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I'm less reassured by my reread of Jesus than I thought I would be, but the whole mess he's gotten into after his question to me seems like a result of alarming lack of thought into what he's posting (when he otherwise seems fairly composed) so I still lean town on him overall.
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I am very eager to see stuff from Pops because from a quick glance again through Lil Uzi I am ready to strike if pops doesn't impress.
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UNVOTE: LuckyOtter
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Why are you attributing blame for the 1v1 stuff with Kublai to me? I responded to Kublai saying things about me, then in response to a questions I went (admittedly a bit OTT) RAWR RAWR, then I realised the RAWR RAWR was OTT and unhelpful and probably inaccurate and quite intentionally disengaged. (I need to make it clear that I don't think Kublai was anti-town from it either)In post 1380, popsofctown wrote:IDK if it's scummy but it's antitown how much Deasvail has been chattering at Kublai Khan 1v1. I can't even remember what they were arguing about. Larges are literally the one game type where thread throughput is like really important to win % and neighborhood PTs are a legitimate power role.
Deasvail also wants to lynch my slot if I'm not "impressive". That's... unfortunate.
I am genuinely curious though, because I wouldn't have thought that the logical perception was that I was anti-town from it.
But given that you obviously seem concerned about my need for you to "impress", I can't shake the feeling that you're trying to discredit me?
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Now regarding Eyes, I actually really like Roster's case. I think it's a good case. Similar to Niko in some ways I think there's a lot of INFORMATION in Eyes' posting and (lol throwback to end of Day 1) I still find it difficult to parse!
More than most reads, I can see a world where I'm wrong, but if I had to call it, I'd go with town here.
The few things that stand out to me are:
I would feel super awkward saying something like this as scum. I would even feel awkward saying it as town out of fear that I'd look scummy! That's how awkward it is!In post 1059, Eyes without a face wrote:
GOOD shot.In post 1044, Not Known 15 wrote:Creature has been killed.
1062, 1064, 1065 - I don't think scum would have the gall to gloat about getting Niko lynched? I'd expect at least a small amount of fake remorse for the situation with Niko Day 1.
I also ended up at the opinion that the sheer BRAVADO at the end of Day 1 was more likely town overestimating the IMPACT of their townflip than scum pretending to.
And ultimately, I mean this in the most endearing way, but I get the sense that Eyes is just posting whatever random stuff they have in mind at the time, without really thinking it through.
The reason I'm worried about being wrong is because of this last part, because I know that scum can adopt a similar thing of just posting white noise and nonsense and whatever comes to mind constantly in an effort to drown out any opposition and look town in the process. And there's a possibility that this is that, I'm scared to be going against what seems to have become a popular opinion but I'm going to stick to my fictitious guns.
Right now, I think Eyes is town.
Very happy to have a conversation about this though.
I would also pursue wagons on any of Vorkuta, Pops or Otter before Eyes.-
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It makes far more sense for scum to actually have the details correct.
I feel like this mistake is more likely to come from town who vaguely remember reasons for forming a read but don’t remember order of events (easy to do) than scum who are more likely to make sure of the details of what they are saying.
Honestly it only strengthens my Red townread.-
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oh by the way for what it's worth the reason I paired you with Creature was because you had both claimed/soft-claimed stuff and my plan was to wait for further info before considering either of you as scum.In post 1565, Kirari Momobami wrote:DeasVail -- between the DV/LO 1v1 I think I'd do LO first since I liked DV's reads early game, but that feeling has waned a bit. I don't like 708 as much as I did on day 1 since he paired me with creature which is the kind of "let's put my scum townread with a town in case I flip so it's not obvious" thing you see from scum a lot, also so much of the iso is irt LO I'm kinda... hmm
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As for where I'm at from a quick glance through,
Town: Pops, Kublai, roster, Alch
Less Town: Nero Cain, Kirari, ofrhz
Less Scum: Montosh, nomnom, Jesus
Scum: Vorkuta, Otter
My first thought is that I kinda townread the twilight posting from Kirari and ofrhz?
In the case of Kirari, the vote on Red after he was obviously hammered is pretty weird from scum and seems more jokey than anything else.
And with ofrhz, my expectation is that she would realise her buddy was hammered and avoid doing some weird waffly pseudo-defense.
Buttt I'm going to think these through more when I'm not about to sleep because my usual approach to townreading people has not really held up so far here.
I do generally disagree with the blanket wagon clearing also. I think that the way that someone votes a person (and the situation) can be pretty town-indicative, but the Creature wagon in particular is not something I believe scum would have necessarily avoided. In particular my Vorkuta concern is that they were cheerleading that wagon without actually contributing to it.
I'll be giving this more thought tomorrow morning.-
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at least I'm not the only one that was thinking it!In post 1637, Kirari Momobami wrote:ofrhz also got spooked by the speed of the wagon on Red in day 1, which I think is more likely to be a town reaction to the over-eagerness of the push on Red by you/fast claim, etc. Yes, scum can try to hard defend a buddy for that reason, but it happens relatively infrequently I wanna say because scum is hyperaware of how that will look-
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Pops, I don’t know if I agree entirely but I get what you’re saying and obviously you were right and I was wrong. Regardless, I can (naturally) totally understand why someone would have a similar reaction to the wagon to what I did.In post 1685, popsofctown wrote:It wasn't forgetting, it was a false reconstructed memory. The reported occurrence was "placing an unvote on creature with the reasoning that he's town in a different game". The analogue to that would be when you tell a 5 year old every other week that they went to Disneyland when they were 4, usually they'll eventually generate some false memories to match what you tell them. That doesn't happen to townies all the time because it's a rare occurrence in adults and 5 year olds aren't playing mafia.
Yes, as town he would be equally likely to forget when Creature flipped and therefore how useful the lie is... but like that's not what's on trial.
You and DeasVail (and so did RedFlavor but it's a cranial ego self-defense mechanism I'd positive I'd talk myself out of it being a real tell too) keep splitting apart the action "unvoting Creature while considering the fact he's town in a different game" into its component part so that either alignment can forget the order of the opponents. It has to be considered one indivisible action that did or didn't happen.
I am probably wasting threadspace with this because the player I wanted dead is dead and I had extra votes but I really don't get how people don't get it.
The main reason for the Montosh placement in my rough reads breakdown is I remember liking them early in the game but they’ve made less of an impression recently (I think it’s common for scum to start strong and fizzle) but I liked them early game for a reason obviously and that might still be valid. When I have time I’ll go through Montosh more specifically paying attention to Red/Creature interactions but I’m more likely to favour Otter-scum here. I completely agree with Kirari re: the Red vote.
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Jesus was there on my list mostly due to me feeling fairly mediocre about him from the first 2 days. He’s not among my top picks for scum at this point, but I don’t really think Red’s votes on him are that significant? You surely remember having an issue with Red yourself for voting Jesus after the gun comment without really reading the game, right? So why would you think Red was intent on getting Jesus lynched? It was always unlikely that Jesus was going to be lynched in favour of Niko because of the fun comment. When Red voted Jesus Day 2, I don’t think he had much reason to think the wagon would take off, and there’s always the “I didn’t read the game” excuse if he moves his vote later. If they are scum together, it seems like reasonably low-impact distancing. But again, I’d still say Jesus is more likely town than scum.In post 1712, LuckyOtter wrote:
Why is Jesus so low on your list? Red threw around some useless votes this game including on Creature but seemed pretty intent on getting Jesus lynched.In post 1639, DeasVail wrote:
oh by the way for what it's worth the reason I paired you with Creature was because you had both claimed/soft-claimed stuff and my plan was to wait for further info before considering either of you as scum.In post 1565, Kirari Momobami wrote:DeasVail -- between the DV/LO 1v1 I think I'd do LO first since I liked DV's reads early game, but that feeling has waned a bit. I don't like 708 as much as I did on day 1 since he paired me with creature which is the kind of "let's put my scum townread with a town in case I flip so it's not obvious" thing you see from scum a lot, also so much of the iso is irt LO I'm kinda... hmm
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As for where I'm at from a quick glance through,
Town: Pops, Kublai, roster, Alch
Less Town: Nero Cain, Kirari, ofrhz
Less Scum: Montosh, nomnom, Jesus
Scum: Vorkuta, Otter
My first thought is that I kinda townread the twilight posting from Kirari and ofrhz?
In the case of Kirari, the vote on Red after he was obviously hammered is pretty weird from scum and seems more jokey than anything else.
And with ofrhz, my expectation is that she would realise her buddy was hammered and avoid doing some weird waffly pseudo-defense.
Buttt I'm going to think these through more when I'm not about to sleep because my usual approach to townreading people has not really held up so far here.
I do generally disagree with the blanket wagon clearing also. I think that the way that someone votes a person (and the situation) can be pretty town-indicative, but the Creature wagon in particular is not something I believe scum would have necessarily avoided. In particular my Vorkuta concern is that they were cheerleading that wagon without actually contributing to it.
I'll be giving this more thought tomorrow morning.
Also I’m not a fan of this minimisation of reasons people may have for thinking Montosh is town, particularly since I didn’t get the impression that this was considered to be a big thing?In post 1713, LuckyOtter wrote:Is the skitter thing the only reason people are wanting to clear Montosh? I can see scum faking that.-
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Re: Montosh
Looking over their posts again I am struck by the sheer ATTITUDE of their early posting (e.g the stuff about clearly stating what parts of their posts are serious and not) and I think this is why I townread them earlier. It feels like towny frustration. It felt genuine to me when first reading through. Maybe it still does?
I’m definitely more suspicious of later posting though. The ISOing feels like looking busy without doing much in reality.
I also am concerned by this post.It seems like a potentially over-negative reaction to the gamestate? 2 scum dead at this stage of the game is pretty awesome, so why the negative focus on their reads?
Yeah overall I don’t know here. Obviously there are potential town explanations for the things I’m concerned by, but the things I like could potentially be faked.
I’m leaning slightly against scum here I think, but I could be persuaded otherwise maybe?
At this point my favoured lynches are probably
Otter > Vork > Montosh/Nom/Jesus
(Still need to look at nom and Jesus properly but my guess based on previous feelings is that I won’t want to lynch either of them more than Otter/Vork)
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I’ve given tentative reads and am in the process of clarifying them before I vote.In post 1758, nomnomnom wrote:Deas can I get actual reads from you? You're still not voting.
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Eh it’s closer to end of day than I thought.
VOTE: LuckyOtter
Quick look through nom confirms that I probably won’t vote for them.
The idea of a Jesus lynch at the very least wouldn’t light my fire as much as vork or Otter.
PEdit: @nom I think my posts gave a fairly clear indication on where my head was at. I could vote someone or say “I am scumreading” them and it would under a lot of circumstances achieve the same thing.-
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