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[Pickaxe Pete]

VOTE: RozyRoz

One balloon for you.

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I see people.

[Pickaxe Pete]

VOTE: RozyRoz

One balloon for you.

I see people.

Light townread on Pickaxe Pete because he actually tries to generate AI discussion and ignores the NAI stuff

I don't think this is an early pocket, but it feels like an early pocket.

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First alt slip. Everyone drink!

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Thinking Reaver is excited town. Or not a newb.

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Newbie 2015 Kitten

Haven't looked but guessing that's a Plot theme.

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Oops didnt mean to quote 235 there

Were you going to make a case on CSF?

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UNVOTE: RozyRoz

Recalling one balloon.

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Stuff to comment on, but I'm super lazy today. And yesterday. Actually, been trying to catch up on work.

@ManateeDude can you fix 446 please?

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It could be a paranoia vote.
I used to stick my vote on players I felt were good at manipulating me early game.

Are you talking about your Marshmallow vote or the NoPowerOverMe vote referenced in the post above yours?

And why did you feel the need in 387 to state that you like your Marshmallow vote?

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I don't see scum in this top 5/6 teir of the activity list btw
Risk/reward of being that active this early in the game is not very favorable

There are 5 scum. You seriously think all 5 are going to be low/medium posters and just allow town to form a town-block. Yeah nah

I agree.

On first read through of last 15 pages, superbowl isn't looking too good to me.

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I don't see scum in this top 5/6 teir of the activity list btw
Risk/reward of being that active this early in the game is not very favorable

There are 5 scum. You seriously think all 5 are going to be low/medium posters and just allow town to form a town-block. Yeah nah

Yes that's what I said. You think there's a town block in the top 5 LMAO??? We've been at each other's throats

I don't think that's what you said.

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thats fine, only makes you look like a piece of shit.

Please no.

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It could be a paranoia vote.
I used to stick my vote on players I felt were good at manipulating me early game.

Are you talking about your Marshmallow vote or the NoPowerOverMe vote referenced in the post above yours?

And why did you feel the need in 387 to state that you like your Marshmallow vote?

I think I missed the response to these questions.

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Oh look that's me I think

VOTE: JacksonVirgo

Four balloons to you.

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haha whats up lapsa

Hi Ralph. You are a model of excellence. I can tell that you're used to the frenzied nature of this large game.

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I feel very lost.
UNVOTE:

Second.

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I think it's townie the way glitch phrased his claim.


VOTE: 72offsuit
They're the much worse half of the continuous argument with reaver that got overshadowed.

1138 is avoiding the reason reaver scumreads offsuit and instead asking for specifics of a tangent of the argument.

Is popping in right as you are getting wagoned a scum thing or just no?

A bit.

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For what it's worth, I've skimmed most of this today. I've done very little, well let's be honest, nothing, letting everyone else do the lifting because I'm terrible on Day 1, and this is a large so that multiplies my awful factor by, I don't know, infinity or something. The only interesting thing that's happened is Glitch's claim, which sounds as fake as a Souder end table. Up to that point I had no opinion of him because I'm lazy, but now I wouldn't mind seeing a lynch push through based on that alone, but I know that's not going to happen because as NoPower said we don't want to take that chance. But I've been burnt too many times by fake claims that can't be proven for days out "I'm an even night whatever" or something; "you guys want me around until Day 4." WTH so that means he's got a locked up slot if he's scum and if he's town I guess he dies tonight or something, so whatever.

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I think bell was answering your question, Hiraki, about fwesnid, not calling you out.

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I like Hiraki's case on csf.

VOTE: alisae

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VOTE: Norway
Can you guess why I vote here?

Better not be a blind vote.
Explain reasoning or I will yeet you to the grave

If you ISO me and read my last ~5 posts, it should become obvious that the vote is an attempt to get attention from Norway.

I don't think JV is reading for content.

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The thing i don’t get is, if we all think his claim was fake. Why are we letting him off the hook? For the vague chance that he’ll be town pr that’s left alive for 4 days and scum won’t just rolecop/kill him until then? And arguing that we should lynch him is somehow scummy in itself? Honestly, some of you guys sound like the biggest noobs regarding this situation.

Site meta. Same with the deal about not pressuring Day-after quickhammers. It's like everyone gets a memory wipe over the night phase.

There's no need for half of JacksonVirgo's posts. More than half. Whoever said that JV is padding their post count was spot on. I think there's scum there.

72offsuit telling A50 to read his ISO instead of giving a simple answer is not necessarily a scummy thing to do, but it certainly isn't townie. That entire chunk of posts from 72 was disturbing coming from a town player. I'd like to see more cooperation.

A50's case on Norway's vote re Glitch is compelling. Although if I were scum, I'd go hard after Norway as a rule because there's a lot of OMGUS in him. Keeping an eye on that.

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I'm continuing to sheep Hiraki for now. Regardless if Alisae comes out sounding townie, as the game progresses, people should not forget to ISO CSF.

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doubt Norway flips scum here

Not as worried about Norway as I am about A50.

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I don't particularly like either wagon. I might vote 72 just b/c I didn't like looters vote on Fwesnid and Polandball made me feel like this game was different. I'm active and here so I can consolidate my vote at any time. I want others to take a stance that haven't yet.

glitch
a50
stan
looter

Were you in Polandball or did you just read it? How do you think this is different?

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Lmao I wanna see ralph make it to lylo and determine our fate

I have a feeling about Ralph. If he's town, I bet he'd hold his own.

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I just read it. I dunno, he just seemed more energetic and trying to blend in with the town.

I agree. I was town reading him in that game. The awkward posts he's had this game could be indicative of a town!fwesnid, but I don't know if Polandball is representative of his scum game. I'm kind of wait and see at this point. I think there are better options today, eg JacksonVirgo & CSF/Alisae slot.

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Not a fan of this wagon, but this day needs to end.

VOTE: fwesnid

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UNVOTE: fwesnid

I'll sheep about anyone with a pulse and a crayon right now.

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VOTE: lapsa

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I think Ralph meets the reqs

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UNVOTE: lapsa

Nah

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I think Ralph meets the reqs

of not getting lynched today?

Of being sheepable

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VOTE: lapsa

Okay. Let's give it a go.

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Dammit. What are we doing. This is silly.

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UNVOTE: lapsa

JacksonVirgo is looking more townie these past few pages.

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Do I want to be manipulated by finesse or by AtE?

Decisions...

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Unvote, Vote: NPOM

Nope, I'm back to sticking to my guns. Apologies for the lapse in judgment.

I was thinking this.

VOTE: NPOM

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Unvote, Vote: NPOM

Nope, I'm back to sticking to my guns. Apologies for the lapse in judgment.

I was thinking this.

VOTE: NPOM

Can't put my finger on exactly why, but this slot has been hitting me wrong.

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Anyone advocating a glitch elim at this point is scummy.

I hate this post.

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I embrace the hate and transform in into... Hey look a pterodactyl!

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Pete. Do you have any current or original reads/thoughts on A50, Fwesnid, Norway, Lapsa, and 72? That's looking like it may be our pool.

Norway's combination of AtE, bullying and OMGUS, which is a a subset of OMGUS, aren't my preferred styles, but that's how he plays as town. I haven't seen anything overtly lynch-worthy from him.

A50, if town, is useful to have around bc of experience and leadership but dangerous if scum. But As with Norway, I haven't seen anything overtly lynch-worthy from him either.

I didn't really read the Nero v superbowl v glitch v whomever deal earlier because, well, it was a lot of "no you" bs that didn't look like it was accomplishing anything.

Either 72offsuit or Lapsa could be scum, but 72 reads as inherently scummy to me in every game he plays, and he's been scum just once, so what he's done so far this game is just NAI to me. His argument with superbowl, I was actually on 72's side on that one -- my quick read of it was that superbowl changed his own interpretation of whether those 5 had a town bloc, but I would go back and reread it if I thought it mattered. The other posts by 72, like the thing with the list that A50 asked about, I thought 72 was being a dick, but being a dick doesn't mean you're scum. It just means you're a dick.

Lapsa I don't know about. That's a null slot to me. I just wanted to lynch there, like I want a lynch anywhere right now, because I want a flip and I want some night actions to occur.

I don't know why you'd limit the pool to those few players. We have a frozen deadline right now, and we have proven we can round up a wagon pdq. I'd throw in CSF/Alisae slot and NPOM. Hiraki's argument wrt CSF was good and deserves another look. NPOM, I don't know, maybe bc the avatar is just one of the worst pics of David Bowie. I would prefer one from the Space Oddity era or the Let's Dance era.

Notwithstanding the foregoing, I indicated earlier that I was going to keep an eye on the Norway v A50 deal, and I have been. I'd prefer to keep both around to Day 2 at this point. GTH if it came down to Norway v A50, I'd probably execute A50. A50 mentioned that 72 should have known that A50 catches up from behind and doesn't read forward. He based that on Hard Boiled, one game that occurred three months ago, the only game 72 had been in with A50. A50 is smarter than that. That's a weak reason to scum read 72.

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I'll also throw out there that there are a couple of players in this game that are a lot stronger than they're projecting I believe. One I saw earlier this year elsewhere and was impressed. This player list is pretty solid actually, and the rep ins have tightened it up for the most part.

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I enjoyed nap time.

UNVOTE:

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Out of the two i think 72 is definiteky townier than Titus. And i never was a fan of Titus stating they just wanted a flip so they could do VCA later.
Whenever a slot makes excuses to not be playing seriously on D1 it’s always iffy.

I actually agree with wanting a flip, so I think she's good there, but Bell makes a good point in 2447.

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my thoughts are fluster but ydrasse still town . vibe anf gut posting come from town

a50 feels different than the game i played with him. he was scum in it.

i feel like titus voting something out of the blue like that is in character tbh.

VOTE: norwegian

this is a soul-vote until i figure out if 72 is a good wagon

i too am vibing with a norway wagon right now. my vote was a good one.

stay strong town, let not this scum inflitrate our ranks.

and

I was just thinking of doing this, and Ralph beat me to it. I think Ralph's townie. And Ydrasse is too.

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my thoughts are fluster but ydrasse still town . vibe anf gut posting come from town

a50 feels different than the game i played with him. he was scum in it.

i feel like titus voting something out of the blue like that is in character tbh.

VOTE: norwegian

this is a soul-vote until i figure out if 72 is a good wagon

i too am vibing with a norway wagon right now. my vote was a good one.

stay strong town, let not this scum inflitrate our ranks.

and

I was just thinking of doing this, and Ralph beat me to it. I think Ralph's townie. And Ydrasse is too.

I'm continuing to sheep Hiraki for now. Regardless if Alisae comes out sounding townie, as the game progresses, people should not forget to ISO CSF.

Caveat on Ydrasse

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Wait. Hold up yd I just realized you replaced at the same time as me. How are your reads so far developed

Fair question.

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"I voted him but he's not scummy" really sells a wagon.

VOTE: titus
I still scumread them.

Anyone else?

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"I voted him but he's not scummy" really sells a wagon.

VOTE: titus
I still scumread them.

What can I say? I am not a prosecutor. I don't upsell to get my convictions.

Agrees to dismiss remaining.

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Reaver wasn't replaced right?

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And stan1ly...

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If that's in response to me, that's not really my point.

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I'm the tactical nuke. Lynch me and literally everyone dies.

I'm on board with this if the day will end.

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We don't need another claim. We need a flip.

VOTE: 72offsuit