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why are you voting brian and what's your lynchpool?
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hey muffinIn post 4475, zMuffinMan wrote:someone tell me how town-titus can go from "let's lynch muffin and oath because mathblade's buddies don't wanna lynch him" (when both oath and i were the only ones voting mathblade) to "hey mathblade (who i apparently forgot i think is scum), wanna lynch some other guy?"
what do you think of RC's posting d1? I've been reading it around the time luna stopped posting and a lot of it feels genuine town!RC thoughts. there's a couple of alarming moments, especially when he votes theta on a horrible associative read with luna that doesn't work, but I'm not sure he'd do that as scum or talk about the benefits of mislynching theta/luna the way he did.
how good are you at reading titus? I know I probably can't really do that on MS but she has a very reliable meta for those who do.-
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"if the wolves are dead and at least one vampire is alive" doesn't feel like a real win condition, and the phrasing leads me to believe there are other vampires in the game. I believe your claim up to the point you're conveniently claiming to be a townsiding 3p. your role is too strong for that.In post 3893, Oath wrote:It hasn't changed completely - you guys just weren't aware of the condition of my one-shot revive because I wanted to make sure I could fulfill it. I realized later that it had already been fulfilled and that I had misunderstood my role. Jeez.
I am a Vampire - I'm gonna do this as close as I can without breaking rules...
I have the following abilites:
Drain: If successful, the player I target will have all active abilities blocked for the night - and I will receive a one-shot copy of all non factional night abilities only usable in the next night phase (N1 copies can be used N2 only). If I get multiple abilities I can use them all unless stated otherwise at that time I guess.
- When drain is successful that player will get a message stating that they are "feeling lethargic"
Passive or factional abilities cannot be blocked because they are used during the night I drain- it is instead blocked the next night
My one-shot revive is conditional upon me having successfully "drained" someone at least once during the game and only applies to being killed during the night, not lynches. This condition was fulfilled with Aronis- but I didn't realize that because I got a "Did not receive any abilities" message. Only when I attempted to drain hebichan and got "Was unsuccessful" did I realized that I could SUCCESSFULLY drain someone without gaining any abilities. Meaning most likely that Aronis has no active night abilities (at least none that aren't factional).
The other condition of my revive is that who ever is responsible for my death (vig or wolf or whatever) would receive a full copy of my role PM and as a "witness" to my revival be notified why I survived- so you could just have someone vig me tonight and we could settle this.
I win if the wolves are dead and at least one Vampire is alive. I have no factional abilties which does now lead me to believe I am aligned with town- just non human since we're supposed to be lynching wolves.
That's it - COMPLETELY
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oh god that's mentalIn post 4480, Ankamius wrote:okay
Almost50 is flipped Jailkeeper, he could add people to his jailkeeper PT
Luna Nova was a vanilla neighborizer
Hebichan is a claimed PT Checker, basically just checks to see if the target has a PT or not (personal ones like the one I always have don't count, we already checked). HeWhoSwims and Vecna are claimed 'clears' (no PT)
zMuffinMan is a claimed 2-shot Seer who has innocent results on the late Theta Alpine (I think?) and Vecna
Mathblade, Gamma Emerald, and Brian Skies-slot started in a neighborhood that has a combined action of either recruiting another member or killing someone. They recruited Creature Night 1 and killed Theta Alpine Night 2.
Oath is a claimed third party that... idk, the role makes my head hurt. The claim is very early in her ISO so it shouldn't be hard to find.
Titus is some kind of tracker
There's an unclaimed vig (that Titus apparently knows the identity of)
There's a bunch of claimed VTs but I don't remember all of them offhand-
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say what now? lolIn post 4540, Oath wrote:Yeah... it is weird, almost like trying too hard to seem like they're not trying hard to not be scummy-
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you think he is indistinguishable? RC is a wolfy wolf who plays all his cards way too aggressively and pushes for scum wincon like hell. I don't have a soulread on him or anything but the posts I read didn't look like agenda-driven TMI spewing wolf. he made a very dense, very bad w/w conditional read on d1 that I have a hard time he'd think is a good idea to say it as a wolf, and I find his interactions with cheeky where he is almost begging to be townread more aligned with his town self and not the slimy manipulative stuff he does as a wolf.In post 4546, Vecna wrote:
How do you distinguish between a town RC and a scum RC?In post 4542, Toranaga wrote:I tried to read what lead to the d1 lynch and then talked to people who were expressing a titus scumread cause I felt RC was pretty much town!RC all the way
the vampire was around talking about his claim so I ISO'd him to catch what his claim was and talked about that
what's weird about any of it?
Please do tell, im intrigued
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awful postIn post 4554, Vecna wrote:I still think we should either lynch Titus or Mathblade today.
And yes, even though I mildly think Mathblade is more likely town than scum, I really dont think we should rule out the possibility that Mathblade -could- be scum here. He's probably capable of pulling the wool over our eyes in the way he is doing, and im really not conformtable how the slot is still hiding behind getting tunneled by a slot that is long gone, and a slot that is claimed to be a vampire. There is something off there.-
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ok I'm confused. so titus is a tracker. titus claims to have tracked mathblade while in a neighborhood with mathblade, and wants to flip herself so that... what? I don't follow. why is titus' claim impossible?In post 4563, Vecna wrote:
Interesting. I like your observations, however I think theres a bit more to it.In post 4557, Toranaga wrote:
you think he is indistinguishable? RC is a wolfy wolf who plays all his cards way too aggressively and pushes for scum wincon like hell. I don't have a soulread on him or anything but the posts I read didn't look like agenda-driven TMI spewing wolf. he made a very dense, very bad w/w conditional read on d1 that I have a hard time he'd think is a good idea to say it as a wolf, and I find his interactions with cheeky where he is almost begging to be townread more aligned with his town self and not the slimy manipulative stuff he does as a wolf.In post 4546, Vecna wrote:
How do you distinguish between a town RC and a scum RC?In post 4542, Toranaga wrote:I tried to read what lead to the d1 lynch and then talked to people who were expressing a titus scumread cause I felt RC was pretty much town!RC all the way
the vampire was around talking about his claim so I ISO'd him to catch what his claim was and talked about that
what's weird about any of it?
Please do tell, im intrigued
I can be wrong but it's where I'm at.
The thing that weirds me out is, if there indeed is no incentive for scum to push to eliminate town in the hood, then what scum motivation is left for a scum RC to go all-in so hard on Mathblade? Especially since if the slot is town, apparently its a tracker that wanted to be flipped just to pretend he tracked Math while he couldve never gotten the result he claimed to have gotten. But then again, maybe thats just what he wanted us to think, although I doubt his planning really goes that deep. He normally doesnt really strike me as the planning scum player, but one that banks on persuasion and intimidation.-
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55-45 is a scumread thoughIn post 4564, Vecna wrote:
Im saying im at 55-45 roughly, and it answers a lot of questions to flip the slot.In post 4561, Toranaga wrote:that's 2 people wanting to lynch mathblade while saying it's flipping town
the fuck is wrong with you
Also, Hi im Vecna, im mechanically towncleared by two different people
you phrased it in such a weird way
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I'm right on RC, am I not?
that's his towngame
I knew it-
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In post 2777, RadiantCowbells wrote:win or lose this game was so not worth it.-
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I read very very littleIn post 4660, Titus wrote:Yes...RC fakes guilties all the time annoying as fuck.
What are your reads?
I believe that dude is a vampire, and I have the suspicion he could be some sort of cultist
I think you're town cause you're RC
HWS is definitely town 100%. it's funny people scumreading the dude when he is extremely awkward as mafia-
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why is mathblade alive? why wasn't this ever sorted?In post 2333, RadiantCowbells wrote:I tracked Mathblade to the kill yesterday
Officially a 1v1 now so stop shit voting elsewhere-
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it's very hard to create a strong lean either way on RC's d2 without knowing what he is referencing most of the time, since I didn't put the time to read math or any other player with any detail.In post 4678, Vecna wrote:
Outcomes?In post 4574, Toranaga wrote:also sure vecna, I'll read RC's d2 for you in a bit
regardless, my impression of RC's p2/p3 posts is of someone intensely annoyed that people aren't listening to him, and legitimely bothered with what he sees as bad townplay. I understand the case for scum!RC is that he could be doing that on purpose to bring town morale down, but what I see is someone getting increasingly upset with the gamestate in a manner that doesn't feel fabricated.
I'm bothered by his thoughts and progression on theta. he has a very bad associative w/w read early on that felt forced. he knows theta is easily mislynchable cause her posting is generally read as awkward, and RC was always dancing around wanting to lynch theta without giving any solid reasoning. at some point he is seemingly townreading her without wanting to defend the slot. don't really understand much of it.
I like his thoughts on cheeky and I'm townreading both players in their interactions, and I believe that he believes his mathblade scumread.
gun to head town.
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who's obvscum?In post 4690, Creature wrote:This game's being painful because the simplest solution (lynch the obvscum) isn't being that simple.-
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well he is cheeky slot who was townyIn post 4692, Creature wrote:Any downsides to lynching zMuffin (excluding "he can be town")?
why do you think he is scum?-
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did you?In post 4680, Gamma Emerald wrote:
*thinking*In post 4663, Toranaga wrote:I believe that dude is a vampire, and I have the suspicion he could be some sort of cultist
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can you expand on this? how are lynches counting as visits in the night?In post 4704, Creature wrote:
because neighborhood lynches count as visit.In post 4696, Toranaga wrote:
why is mathblade alive? why wasn't this ever sorted?In post 2333, RadiantCowbells wrote:I tracked Mathblade to the kill yesterday
Officially a 1v1 now so stop shit voting elsewhere-
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a PT "cop" doesn't make a 2-shot seer impossible, yes? do we know if wolves even have PT?In post 4705, Creature wrote:
zMuffinManIn post 4698, Toranaga wrote:
who's obvscum?In post 4690, Creature wrote:This game's being painful because the simplest solution (lynch the obvscum) isn't being that simple.
claimed 2-shot seer
on Theta and Vecna
when there's already a PT cop
who had already cleared Vecna
and is now just occasionally appearing to say "creature is scum"
I ISO'd you and think you're town so I agree it's bad if zmuffin is constantly shading you but that also doesn't make him scum
and I'm willing to roll with RC's lean on cheeky and my own read on her before I even open zmuffin's ISO
let's find someone else. who else is wolfing?-
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got itIn post 4717, MathBlade wrote:
Think of it like thisIn post 4715, Toranaga wrote:what does "lynches are tracked" mean? if I voted someone, and I get tracked at night, does that mean I'm tracked to the person I voted? cause that makes no sense to me. a tracker is a night action. votes are daily actions.
We have a group vig at night that requires unilateral support
Vigs are tracked.
Ergo the lynch is tracked
so RC's track was useless in the end cause you'd be confirmed to have killed A50 with whoever is in your neighborhood with you
and that's being called a "lynch" cause I guess you're voting internally
ok I understand all that. what do you think of titus' play in this gameday? how do you rationalize RC strong wolfreading you? do you think he showed an agenda of trying to mislynch you or was he just wrong town?-
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I promise I'm not, I just would have to read up more than I did to get anything done this gameIn post 4826, Creature wrote:I prefer the zMuffinMan lynch obviously, but I can also do Toranaga as he seems to be dodging this thread.
I have you/titus/vecna as town and no wolfreads
I ISO'd lady but there's nothing there
people wanna lynch math who I can't read
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nothing this weekend, I'm quite busy with stuff and not really in the mood to read the gameIn post 4828, Ankamius wrote:what have you read so far tora
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VOTE: lady angel
I understand this may be unfashionable cause titus and math are playing, but killing the people not playing the game has proven effective most of the time
and there's nothing to townread lady with so yeah
can't get myself to care enough about this and change wherever the thread wants to go with so yeah
let's just lynch someone-
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I tried but the game thread is too long, the mechanics are all over the place and there's no one I really love playing with here. no excuse for sucking but it's a hard game to get into so I didn't.In post 5432, Vecna wrote:God I hate all the replacements in these games so much. No accountability for anything on over half the slots. And that excludes Mathblade
I might work on it later today-
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he does that
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I figured out I'd eventually kill vecna a long time ago and then the thread was too big for me to read into anything else
since devouring will janitor my target, vecna was a perfect candidate as he had both a possible non-town wincon and had claimed everything else already
if I shot inside a werewolf POE it wouldn't flip and wouldn't help town so
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so here is the spin, right?
vecna flipped VT to me
human villager with no powers, meaning he lied about being a vampire or something interfered with how my action was supposed to work
IDK, I didn't really care, sorry for killing town, won't get into this game and I'm extremely resolvable
hope math flips scum since he is doing garbage AtE, but you should NOT tell people who have gender dysphoria that they don't look masculine/feminine enough. I'm guessing nosferatu doesn't understand the stuff mathblade goes through and didn't mean anything.-
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one shot devourer is the full claimIn post 6136, Ankamius wrote:Full claim it-
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THE DEVOURERIn post 6139, Ankamius wrote:What is your role name?-
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yeah but do care, because you're triggering a condition the dude has by saying that kind of stuff. it's not all drama, you knowIn post 6153, Nosferatu wrote:
i just didnt care if im being honestIn post 6137, Toranaga wrote:I'm guessing nosferatu doesn't understand the stuff mathblade goes through and didn't mean anything.-
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I don't even care enough to understand thisIn post 6154, Nosferatu wrote:but i have to shoot you or globall will literally explode
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