In post 5358, Creature wrote:Let's wait two days for mastina to comment on it anyway
Also this @Jingle, plus mastina reads in order anyways always so she’ll never get to the climax before the buildup
You'll forgive me for not discussing possible outs for the player being guiltied because she always reads chronologically. Or you won't, but that would be moronic.
Also, she promised content today, so hopefully it won't be another two days. :fingers crossed:
In post 5037, Jingle wrote:Oh, btw. I totally didn't act last night because
nihilism
.
Hi
In post 5196, Creature wrote:I believe I got an incriminating result on mastina (barring redirection)
Scumclaim, I think.
I'd like to point out that it is the combination of these, not either individually that is the potential scumclaim. Of the two, the former is far more alignment indicative.
Post
Post #5381 (isolation #403) » Thu Nov 15, 2018 11:28 am
Postby Jingle »
In post 5377, NicoRobin wrote:If there is a guilty, you sheep it, no questions asked. Not doing so just gives the guiltied party wiggle room to get out of the guilty.
Post
Post #5388 (isolation #406) » Thu Nov 15, 2018 11:39 am
Postby Jingle »
In post 5378, THE MEME MEN wrote:Or we can progress the game, not let it die again, since waiting on futile things is, well, futile.
I find this complaint unnecessary when a bunch of things are currently happening. This is THE most active and productive the thread has been since I joined the game.
Her not being a rolecop would violate the second of RC's game specific rules. TBF, so does Shoshin's role, but this would be an explicit violation and not an implicit one.
Post
Post #5440 (isolation #416) » Thu Nov 15, 2018 3:04 pm
Postby Jingle »
First of all, your only scumgame is a really WTF moment game.
Second, the hurtcounts are to manipulate the pace of the game to play better with the large playerbase and mastina's role, mostly due to an incredible level of inactivity.
Basically, anyone you're willing to lynch/see gladiated is in your hurt pool. This can be expressed via hurt tags
[hurt]Playername[/hurt][code] or by just generally making it obvious to me you want said player gladiated. I've been including votes because if you want them lynched you presumably don't mind them being gladiated.
The goal was to speed up the game to prevent even more flakiness.
Post
Post #5493 (isolation #421) » Thu Nov 15, 2018 8:06 pm
Postby Jingle »
In post 5491, mastina wrote:Sure, yeah, if you're running a game where the Crew of Serenity is all the good guys and their enemies are all the bad guys, flavor becomes alignment-indicative (I abandoned ship on that review for good reason ), but in any competently designed game where flavor is alignment-indicative the nontown have safeclaims for flavor. In a game like this one though, role is done separately from flavor.
I would’ve won anyway and the sequel isn’t broken by flavor.
Post
Post #5551 (isolation #422) » Fri Nov 16, 2018 5:42 am
Postby Jingle »
In post 5546, NicoRobin wrote:Also, to everyone who townreads mastina: I want you to write that you will apologize in public for making us lose on purpose in your next post.
I don't want to make a sig bet, because I can't remember if those are allowed. But I'll apologize somehow if my mastina ends up endgaming town despite the fact that I've literally been advocating she die before endgame since replaced in.
Now that creature pretty much confirmed his own role, my paranoia is no longer there because he literally CAN'T have done the thing I thought he did.
Post
Post #5576 (isolation #434) » Fri Nov 16, 2018 2:04 pm
Postby Jingle »
Your pushes have been the driving force. The two big ones I can remember are Firebringer and NR, both over things that have more to do with being bad than being scum.
Your push on NR boils down to she's being inconsistent and erratic with her role. You've done very little (if anything) to explain why that's more likely to be scum than derptown.
Your push on Firebringer is similar, in that it's very surface level. You're clearly aware of his push on mastina, but not enough to realize that it is in fact a policy lynch push. Something that should be immediately obvious to anyone actually trying to read his alignment.
Of course, both of those stances are correct, but you've done very little to show why they're scum because of them. NR IS being weird about her role. Fire IS tunneling mastina. But that's as far as you get. Additionally despite having those stances, you're far from the most vocal proponent of either case (JJH for Nico, Mastina for Fire), so you're unlikely to suffer much blowback should they flip town.
Also, mastina thinks you're scum, I haven't seen a single post by you that makes me feel the townvibes, and I have a fairly quickly dwindling PoE pool.
Post
Post #5581 (isolation #435) » Fri Nov 16, 2018 3:56 pm
Postby Jingle »
Is there any specific aspect of their play or is there anything else in particular that makes this scum instead of bad? Do you have any reason to suspect that either of them specifically would be prone to reevaluating?
Post
Post #5582 (isolation #436) » Fri Nov 16, 2018 4:09 pm
Postby Jingle »
In post 5580, WhemeStar wrote:Did jingle ever reveal why he thought he would get mod killed
I presumably have information I'm not supposed to have. At this point, I'm nearly 100% sure that I'm not supposed to have been sent said information, because RC hasn't told me that I was supposed to be sent that info. I believe it is most likely that RC is discussing with a listmod how damaging to the game state it is that I have that information, to which the answer is "not very". Still if the game wasn't already impossible to get replacements for, I probably would already have been replaced.
The modkill assumption was that Sky got killed to keep the game going (I think), and it wouldn't be unreasonable as a choice to do the same to me.
Also, I'm assuming that's a you voted mastina claim, Wheme.
Post
Post #5587 (isolation #439) » Fri Nov 16, 2018 11:31 pm
Postby Jingle »
NR is currently L-3. There is no reason to draw out this day arbitrarily. If you don't support that gladiate and your name isn't mastina, you should weigh in on why. Sooner, rather than later.
Furthermore, if we're both town and she is disloyal, then the gladiate won't work. She might also refuse to do it.
How about those?
Yes, I think you’re valuable as a conftown. Not only are you a pseudo investigation (results not immediately damning or clearing but rather indicative) the clearing of you forces ~5 reevaluations. The proof that you are scum would cause at least mastina and me to reevaluate. You’re a high contention slot and having your alignment confirmed, or pseudo confirmed, is high value here.
Post
Post #5657 (isolation #442) » Sun Nov 18, 2018 6:32 pm
Postby Jingle »
In post 5650, Aristophanes wrote:It may seem bad form but I can adhere to lynching the dead slots to keep the game going. I myself would have replaced out long ago if not for the difficulties in finding replacements.
I do better once the playerlist is culled anyway, and we're probably sitting alright with like, what, 2 scum dead already?
I wouldn't be remiss if the game were called, but that's selfish. We have a good chance of bagging this game, especially with what seems like another slam dunk scum lynch on the way! But only if the game continues!
I was sheeping FB, so, VOTE: Invisi
If FB and Invis replaced out because they're scum who don't think scum has a shot at winning anymore, then why bother playing the game to an inevitable conclusion?
If RC as the most informed party thinks calling it is the right call, I'm fine with taking him at his word.
To be clear, I will stick around if the game continues, I just don't see a reason to continue the game if we're just going to lynch based on the assumption that it's mechanically broken without using the presumed mechanical brokenness.
Post
Post #5730 (isolation #443) » Tue Nov 20, 2018 10:02 pm
Postby Jingle »
VOTE: Vizzy slot
I for one have been low efforting because I'm burnt out on chasing people down to get them to content. I'm totes cool with phoning it in for the rest of this day phase and getting back to it tomorrow if I'm still alive though.
Post
Post #5799 (isolation #444) » Wed Nov 21, 2018 2:26 pm
Postby Jingle »
In post 5781, NicoRobin wrote:@Jingle Do you really want a blubbering idiot who can't tell her right hand from her left as a conftown, eh? Especially since Vecna and many others agree that I am irrational and not making any sense.....
Gladiating and confirming you is more about proving jjh right or wrong than about changing the weight of your opinion. If you're proven to be scum, jjh has to reevaluate and pull himself out of this tunnel, giving more for me to read from him. This tunnel comes across as incredibly scummy to me, but the self meta is weirdly compelling for something I usually just ignore, and there's a chance to read him better if a hard reset comes. If you're scum, on the other hand, it means that MY read of the thread is off and I need to reset.
I happen to know that your read on me is wrong. I happen to believe that your read on mastina is wrong. If you're not feeling the pressure you're feeling right now I think you're more likely to reevaluate your tunnels. And I'm flipflopping hard on JJH. So no, I have no reason avoid confirming your alignment.
In post 5779, RadiantCowbells wrote:I am willing to modkill up to 2 slots. If a third slot after that replaces and is empty for 5 days I will be calling the game.
I will be modkilling Invis in 3 days from now, I think.
Post
Post #5800 (isolation #445) » Wed Nov 21, 2018 2:40 pm
Postby Jingle »
HurtCount 4.6:
Ineligible Players:
Inviz: () Gonna steal this from the next vote count, but there's no point in gladiating a probably modkill.
Adalbert: (0)
Mastina: (4) Firebringer, Creature, Meme Men, Aristophanes
@JJH @Jingle Your 'analysis' was wrong after all, and that means you were either so damn stupid or you're both scum with mastina and Porkens. I am your Judge, Jury and Executioner. What do you have to say for yourselves?
1. It's Judge Judy and Executioner.
2. I misread her. It happens.
3. I remain, and this is hilarious, correct, about what the 'right' play was. Note that because of my/jj's plans, Adalbert and Fire are now conftown.
In post 6012, Nero Cain wrote:So we are killing all of Vecna, Jingle, JJH and NSG right?
Post
Post #6032 (isolation #449) » Wed Nov 28, 2018 2:47 pm
Postby Jingle »
Oh, I was roleblocked yesterday. I was not allowed to talk about the roleblock yesterday and could only say that I didn't submit my action because town was going to lose or nihilism or something along those lines.
Additionally, there is no danger of me being force replaced at this point, it's been resolved.
Post
Post #6042 (isolation #450) » Wed Nov 28, 2018 2:55 pm
Postby Jingle »
Adelbert Steiner- conf via mastina
Firebringer- conf via mastina
Invisibility- about to be modkilled. Don't gotta worry anytime soon.
Vecna- Probably responsible for the missing kill N2. Possibly responsible for the missing kill tonight. Probably town.
Creature- Probably town from the derpguilty on mastina.
jjh927- Not scum with NR. Want to see reactions today. Very doubtful imo that 3 of the members of the scumteam have 'I'm gonna fuck with the ability of town to vote' roles, so if his role is confirmed low priority sort.
Porkens- Not scum with NR. Interested to hear reasons he's town independent of that.
Nicorobin- I dislike the surety of the flip preflip. Reads as TMI to me.
Jingle- Me.
That leaves 2-5 scum in the following:
The Meme Men
Nero Cain
Shoshin
Gamma Emerald
Aristophanes
Lady Angel
Whemestar
Northsidegal
Meme and Nero probably town? Does anyone have strong reads/reasons on the rest?
In post 6032, Jingle wrote:Oh, I was roleblocked yesterday. I was not allowed to talk about the roleblock yesterday
sorry if this is a dense question but are you saying you were roleblocked night 3 and could not talk about it day 4 or that you were roleblocked day 4 and couldn't talk about it day 4?
Post
Post #6058 (isolation #453) » Wed Nov 28, 2018 3:08 pm
Postby Jingle »
In post 6055, Vecna wrote:Read it, the disloyal description of the gladiate.
It specifies success on 'Town' and failure on 'Mafia'. There is no mention of what happens on 3p. Implication, there is no 3p. Not hard confirmation, but positive likelihood.