Starcraft Mafia -- Game Over!

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no rolestopper like, applies the ascetic modifier to their target basically
(it's a little different but that's an easier way to explain it)

definitely roleblocker

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I’m just trying to make some sense of what the hell is going on here.

QFT but atm we're solving a 100 piece jigsaw and we only have the corner pieces
let's leave this convo until we have more claims. i think some serious fuckery is happening

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i'm not sure why performer's claim doesn't make sense with the witch either?

So none of your roleblocks could have been redirected, because you would have been informed, in that case?

can you explain what you mean by this?
i think nauci is saying her night actions ~did nothing~ n1 + n2 because she was roleblocked
but she was also targeted by the witch n2
but the witch ability failed because she was roleblocked, so she couldn't go wherever the witch sent her

Oh but wouldn’t that be a rolestop then, not a roleblock?

?

I thought a rolestop would block the witch’s actions towards her?

it would but then she shouldn't be informed she was witched n2, because she wouldn't have been

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so nauci has a power role of some kind

on night one, she targeted someone but it didn't work. => she was roleblocked. she was not witched.
on night two, she targeted someone but it didn't work. she was also informed she was witched. => she was roleblocked and witched.

the witch targeting someone does two things:-
1. changes the witch's target's target, i.e. Nauci.
2. informs the witch's target that they were controlled by the witch.

because someone roleblocked Nauci (stopped her from moving that night) on night two, nauci couldn't have a target at all so (1) above didn't happen. only (2) did, because the WITCH'S ability went through. it's just that NAUCI'S didn't.

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we should probably EOD Nauci's claim until after Kokichi, at least

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yes, it did. i'd be kinda surprised if it was a town motivated rb tho

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we should probably EOD Nauci's claim until after Kokichi, at least

I don’t like how Keyser is just completely ignoring our concerns with his bogus role and trying to move the focus off of him onto Kokichi. If he was town here, he would be trying to explain his REAL role, not pull a bait and switch.

i don't disagree with this at all

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it didn't save nauci's life probably
it just saved her from being controlled by the witch

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it didn't save nauci's life probably
it just saved her from being controlled by the witch

So, maybe then, it saved someone else’s and prevented a 2nd kill? If so, then it still helped, right?

i'm not gonna respond to this til massclaim is over, and would suggest it should probably be the end of discussion for now

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sorry - i'll explain why later.

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good question
I got the sense he was claiming it as a TPR but I don't recall him explicitly claiming one way or the other.. feels town tho

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unless there's like
two competing tps one who's antitown and one who's antiscum

that would be wild

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#relatable

it's 1.30am and I'm mulling over tinfoil theories

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Self notes: we have a vig, pgo, a cop, X # of informed, bp, scum that kill, sk that kill, witch/survivor, a VT, gunsmith.

we have a cop?

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VOTE: Kokichi
Putting my bread where my mouth is.

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I've sorted like a thousand times this day phase. You have no reason to stall this unless you're scum who needs to swing a fakeclaim around what I know and doesn't want to risk outing themselves - the soft I have is looking even softer than it thought it was. Your play is just extremely obvscum.

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UNVOTE:

pedit: FUCK

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That's hammer isn't it

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I am never getting ready for work again

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Still like.... I'm pretty sure Kokichi isn't town anyway? hopefully??

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I'm a town Normal Priority roleblocker and I roleblocked Kokichi n1. I thought that might be the reason for the lack of zergkill

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I'm also pretty sure given my role specifically says my priority is normal that there is at least one more roleblocker out there but I don't know when they resolve or what their alignment is

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I didn't have an action n2 and I don't know how Nauci was roleblocked. I'm thinking she might have been the scum nk n1 and maybe there's a low priority jailkeeper who intentionally resolves after me
┐(´д｀)┌

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this is my best tinfoil right now assuming we don't instant lose

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if there is a Jailkeeper and it's town.... I believe in you and I'll be targeting one of those qhers tonight. Given how many mods there are I will not say which one.

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never lynch {Shoshin, Nauci} don't lynch {Varsoon, AlNan} unless everyone else is dead

I think we can lynch thru Keys=>Perf and go ride or die with this

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Nauci's theory that Varsoon could be a third party working against the mafia has some element of validity even outside of flavourgaming tbh

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gth {Perf, Keys, Mitillos} is the scumteam. Everyone else is town in varying tiers

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and I'm praying they just quickhammered the witch

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This might flip goon or something but if it does I'd still nuke that qh, it was too well timed and is a bus before either of them are town

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if it reds friendly reminder Xtoxm is never ever ever groupscum

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Nauci hmu when you're here

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We need to finish massclaim. FTR my claim yesterday was deadpan as fuck. If Nauci was roleblocked n2 either Xtoxm back to back jailkept her as town which makes no sense or there's another RB/commuting mechanic.

I roleblocked Keyser last night.

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....you're not town fam

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I'm assuming Performer and Keyser aren't going to be helping with this because that qh yesterday was a full-on scumclaim.

Mitillos and AlmostNancy should go first. Xtoxm was SHOT which means we have some fuckery going on and I think Varsoon should confirm whether anyone was targered by the Zerg.

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I agree and Performer will be lynched today. We need to finish massclaim.

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We're in LyLo and I want to see how much sense we can make of what's going on. I'm also very confused at the Xtoxm flip with town kill flavour.

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I'll trust your discretion wrt whether you have any results to claim. I wanted to claim my result and I need to hear who the zerg tried to nk.

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Humour me
@Keyser who did you investigate last night?
@Nauci I neeeeeed youuuuu

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i very very very seriously did not expect my vote to go down that badly. i was getting ready for work and spam-refreshing the page with UNVOTE: on my clipboard for like nearly an hour

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t h e
h o r r o r

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i already did and i'd unvote me if i were you given we're very very potentially in mylo

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i am Gabriel Tosh, a non-consecutive roleblocker.
my priority is "normal".

n1 i targeted kokichi, n3 i targeted keyser.

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shoshin hasn't claimed and i don't think she will.

your turn.

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actually fuck you guys should 100000% claim the flavour you're informed about because we can use anything we can get right now.

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asdfghjkl;' i was hoping you were gambiting to get scum to out themselvs

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i want keyser too.

also i take a LOT of comfort in the fact that the witch can't organise a quickhammer with scum. a50 can come back and unvote me if he's town.

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that seemed like the most likely theory, yeah. :/

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also something fairly dire just occurred to me

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they would have to be nongroup scum

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for the record i was very much hoping if there was a town jailkeeper they'd be on performer.

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Zerg kill: Xtoxm
Zerg target 1: Xtoxm
Zerg target 2: the worst

this confuses me a lottttttttt

Btw, TW, I didn't see what information you have that made you think kokichi is scum?

I assume that mew found out that kokichi had the macho modifier

i roleblocked kokichi n1 and there was no zerg kill n1. i've soft guiltied him in the past and i was hoping to get a gauge of whether or not he'd react the same way.

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they would have to be nongroup scum

Whoever blocked me? Why?

because of Varsoon's result.

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actually

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if there's any way they have some kind of redirector, i could have been redirected onto you. but i wasn't witched last night obviously

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but varsoon's role involves getting a list of all zerg faction targets starting d4

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let me see if i know

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it's not clear. i'll ask the mod

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that's what I was worried about..

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It's worth a shot tbh?

pedit
VOTE: AlmostNancy

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We blocked the worst on N1, Nauci N2 & Shoshin N3.

Why why and why??

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We literally had a 2man quickhammer at eod3. You directly ccing obvtown and threatening to votepark between {obvtown, obvtown} both of WHOM YOU'VE ROLEBLOCKED are claiming to be SRing for no reason and have treated like town for the entire game is a joke.

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Explain your night target rationale please.

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So you just watched Perf and Keyser scumclaim via quickhammer and me scumclaim by claiming a facsimile of your role with a modifier and then didn't roleblock any of us

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Normal. I'm literally being cc'd directly except they're claiming ungated.

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This is literally ridiculous A50. why do you lolvotepark me at the sod4 in potential mylo if you haven't read the thread, know nothing about what I've done, your hysra partner townreads ne and you don't know we're claiming the same role?

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This is a PoE'd scumteam throwing shit at a wall and hoping they can squeeze in a last minute mislynch for the win. I'm not entertaining this for a second. You're claiming the exact same thing as me down to the LANGUAGE yet pretend you didn't see my claim???

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UNVOTE:

How the fuck do Varsoon's results check out here

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I did not receive a message that I was roleblocked on n1. I'm guessing you both did Shoshin and Nauci?

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Nauci, can you out your result on Key?

I don't know where I was redirected by the witch

Did you receive the interrupted pm as well on n2?

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You never received an interrupted pm?

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I never got one either

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my heart of hearts still says massclaim and I can't really explain it

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waht

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wicked

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does the witch find that out from targeting you once?

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Out of interest do you have a modifier?

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Witch is a redirector

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ヽ(｀⌒´)ノ

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Keyser's claim was an odd night gunsmith which we extensively talked through and already realised is a better wolf role or fakeclaim than it is an actual claim.

Nauci is also very obviously town. Stop using shit you have no idea about to shade me IN MYLO

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I'm actually annoyed I let Kokichi's wolfy bullshit distract me. We're lynching Keys today.

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AlNan has to roleblock me because they know I'll roleblock them - that's self resolving and we can lynch them tomorrow.

Keys and Perf are both caught scum except there's a decent chance Perf actually is just 1sbp and Keyser is some kinda power role.

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is Krazy enough of a troll mod to include two almost identical town roles in a setup?

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VARSOON'S RESULTS MAKE NO SENSE

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Oh okay that checks out. I didn't really parse that it was dumb to claim RB with a redirector out there...

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the simultaneous L-1/hammer is always a scum quickhammer I'm pretty sure. There also isn't a town cop + gunsmith even more than there's never a town gunsmith in isolation. These guys are both scum.

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Actually given reads I'm pretty sure this means Alnan is lockscum too. The cc only really makes sense from the POV that scum is PoE'd and needs to swing one last mislynch.

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Why would anyone kill Xtoxm tbh?

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the only reason NOT to kill Varsoon is doc/jk paranoia I'm pretty sure

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Votecount 1.29

Not_Mafia(8)

~ Nauci(241), Mitillos(66), Shoshin(188), Irrelephant11(181), Mewtaph(38), the worst(329), Varsoon(150), Performer(97)

-- HAMMER

Mewtaph(2)

~ skitter30(179), Kokichi Oma(154)

the worst(1)

~ Not_Mafia(35)


Not Voting (4): Creature(128), Keyser Söze(108), Xtoxm(79), AlmostNancy(466)

With 15 alive it takes 8 to lynch.

Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2018-12-13 17:17:27)

FLAVOR

Spoiler:

Votecount 2.13

Mewtaph(7)

~ Performer(47), Nauci(317), Shoshin(141), AlmostNancy(438), Kokichi Oma(51), Xtoxm(126), the worst(225)

-- HAMMER

Performer(2)

~ Mitillos(19), Mewtaph(60)

Keyser Söze(2)

~ skitter30(81), Varsoon(156)


Not Voting (1): Keyser Söze(46)

With 12 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

Day 2 deadline is in (expired on 2018-12-23 13:57:55)

MOD REMINDERS

Double checking

Votecount 3.3

Kokichi Oma(6)

~ Xtoxm(4), Shoshin(3), Mitillos(1), the worst(73), Keyser Söze(8), Performer(2)

-- HAMMER

the worst(1)

~ Kokichi Oma(10)

Keyser Söze(1)

~ AlmostNancy(57)


Not Voting (2): Varsoon(0), Nauci(33)

With 10 alive it takes 6 to lynch.

Day 3 deadline is in (expired on 2019-01-04 22:53:23)

MOD REMINDERS

This dayphase passed without Varsoon getting a chance to post

FLAVOR

Spoiler:

I haven't VCA'd this but I'm pretty sure Keyser at least is lockscum

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Why would the "witch" keep targetting Nauci?

Not sure. The theory that the witch becomes informed of her ability is pretty valid & it would be in their interest to continuously direct her to the same target if they know she's a cop.

otherwise..... ┐(´д｀)┌

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VOTE: Keyser

Town GS, doesn’t make any sense in this setup.

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I'm not really sure it's an AI vote.

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3 roleblockers?
lmao

this setup is officially not sane

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Realistically the witch can just claim town redirector then vote with groupscum to force no lynch :/

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can I just take a moment to declare Kokichi oma TBE fucking scum mvp? thx

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even if we live in some whack parallel universe and you or Shoshin is scum he helped wolves more than anyone else. :/

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yeah that's a decent point; it hadn't really crossed my mind

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Mitillos please fullclaim.

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frankly I trust Nauci more than you

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uh

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Mitillos darling...

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did Keys/Perf scumclaim to set up a deepwolf who just scumslipped?

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https://starcraft.fandom.com/wiki/Ghost_academy

https://liquipedia.net/starcraft/Science_Vessel

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I guess they're both Terran? I think I need Nauci again

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I don't think he fact checked before making the claim tbh. If he's not lying he needs to come back and flavourclaim rn.

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Mitillos read the wiki on motion detectors

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What were your other night actions?

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Basically for you to get "no movement" it means Nauci visited no one and no one visited Nauci. both she and Nancy would have to be lying unless shit is super super fucked.

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If you're scum here I will be so, so impressed.

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krazy said my role doesn't notify the target they were blocked by default but it sounds like it might depending on target's role

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i thinky i prefer a keyser lynch still

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ohhh yeah I started reading the game we hydra'd in on my main so that I could parse it (i did flake out pretty quickly though :c)

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Keyser..is outed scum....

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FAM

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Keyser..is outed scum....

How? Enlighten this poor old monkey

he claimed odd night gunsmith in a setup where a town gunsmith would be negative utility; nauci has also cc'd town investigative as a cop
he also participated in a quickhammer at eod yesterday

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viewtopic.php?f=3&t=77970&start=4400

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you think keyser innocently L-1'd kokichi and then performer appeared out of nowhere and hammered him within seconds and they're not outed scumbuddies

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you really need this mislynch don't you?

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i'm going to wait for Mitillos to return because regardless of his alignment, he has a wolf on his wagon.
i inherently distrust any wagon you're pushing right now.

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i can't believe we watched quickhammer on day three and we are lynching neither of the people who did it WITHIN SECONDS OF EACH OTHER

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i think i need to clear my head

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i'm pretty worried we're looking at alnan/perf/keys and mitillos is our third party. that was a quickhammer literally wtihin 5 seconds of each other from people on two conintents neither of whom are hyperposting

if that wasn't coordinated i'm gonna go mad

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just one more thing to consider: both of his slipped flavours are terran as far as i can tell.

shoshin i'm trusting you a lot here. i think there is a very real possibility mitillos didn't suicide intentionally.

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alright.

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Nancy.

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wait sorry, they did claim

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on two conintents

Oh?

keys and perf but i'm suddenly realising i'm not sure how many people know where my lover is from.....

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I'm really not sure outside of like random speculation

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my wim is kinda dead

both nauci and keyser have claimed being informed of third parties who can't win with the town--nauci has a lot more information if you'd like me to dig it up

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how so?

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There's a witch in this game

There's no mafiawiki article for it, but this is the description on Mafia universe

Role Description:

The Witch is an independently aligned player who can target and control another player every night. The target will be notified that they are being controlled. The Witch's action will only work on roles that have abilities that target other people at night, and the action controlled by the Witch cannot be roleblocked. Furthermore, the Witch will be viewed as town-aligned if investigated. The Witch is allowed to make players self-target or even target the Witch. The Witch wins the game by surviving to see the town lose the game.

But I've been informed that the witch role in this game is, in multiple ways, different from that one. One difference is that it does not prevent role blocking of the redirected action. I do not know the other differences.

I was role blocked both N1 and N2, but only witched on N2.

The witch knows what my night action is, which is why I'm confessing that I have one, but I do not intend to claim it (yet).

Be sure to note: town does not need to kill the witch to win, because it is a non-killing role if there are no killing roles it can redirect (but it might count as a town killing role if, say, there is a town vig it could still redirect?

@Krazy can you confirm or deny this?

). But it can only win by being alive when town otherwise loses.

I'm pretty mad that this game has a high chance of ruining my 12-2 record because it seems preeeeetty difficult of a setup for town to win.

With a non-gun-flavor zerg/mafia faction, and

at least

1 town vig, and a pgo, I basically refuse to believe town was given a Gunsmith because it would be stacking the deck further against town essentially...

In combination with the night kills and Keyser's play, I am extremely, extremely suspicious of him.

If it was a redirect that killed creature, it would still have to be an intentional kill, because unless this witch is different, the role gets to find out what the night action they are redirecting is.

I believe that there are 2 roles left with a gun flavor kill ability, and a scum role blocker.

Why are you so certain. that there’s a witch in this game? Because you were RB’d twice?

Because the witch role differs from redirector in 2 primary ways: witches are informed of what night action they get to redirect is, and the player being redirected are informed that they have been witched/redirected (but not where to). It's unclear if the first part applies here, but I was informed that I was witched, and that it does not prevent the night action from being roleblocked.

N1 I was roleblocked, and N2 I was both witched and roleblocked.

TW, would you agree that the Witch wouldn't explain the Creature NK, unless the witch specifically wanted to kill Creature?

I guess the witch would be actively trying to help a scum faction but wouldn't know who they are

I'm not sure if mass claiming is the worst idea at this point; scummiest players first though

Oh, side note:

I was not explicitly told I was roleblocked. I was explicitly told that witching does not prevent roleblocks

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hmu if you have any questions about it. i'm going to play a game and get my mind off this for a bit.

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a lot about nancy's claim feels off, bluntly.

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could you link me?

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no problems. if i get a burst of energy i'll go hunting for it too.

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Varsoon is never zerg and is almost always town

nauci targeted keyser n3 but was redirected so her result is unfortunately redundant

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given all the other flips aren't they substantially >rand town?

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for what it's worth, I agree with Nauci that Mitillos has better third party equity.
the slip thing looked more like a question to Krazy than a question to his scumbuddies, and his flavour is not at all zerg indicative. he's talking about buildings which as far as i can tell are terran anyway.
at the same time i just don't townread that slot and the fact he was asking if he can use a fakeclaim made me like

i also think we need to wait for him to re-enter the thread and explain what that was all about. he could be waiting for an answer from krazy. also i will be lynching to hit groupscum.

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I was actually starting to feel like you were looking like your town self here Nancy but a fair few things have really seized me up today.

A50 appearing out of nowhere and openly wolfsiding really genuinely blindsided me.

Him also voting me in MyLo/already lost situation after claiming not to have read the thread and then counterclaiming an exact facsimile of my role EXCEPT also claiming to be ungated doesn't feel like a claim that town makes. If you're a wolf here you've played an exceptional game, and I'm really sorry if hydra miscommunication has broken it down for you but I'm really struggling to see where your behaviour today comes from town.

Why did you fakeclaim informed vt? Why were you so hesitant to reveal your flavour information? Why are you assuming that it's a wolf flavour? Inconsistencies aside there's just some core parts of how all this has gone down that's not sitting right with me...

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tbh if you're town I had you wrong then right then was thrown way way off and I think I have a better idea of how to read you next time..for what that's worth

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Almost50 has also watched me deepwolf a theme game (Earthbound Mafia), it was pretty scumsided and ended quickly but post-game owned that I probably made it to endgame even if my last scumbuddy was lynched.

I wasn't remotely surprised by his paranoia re-entering the thread but I was absolutely shocked he lolvoted me in mylo without ANY reasoning and then alleged to have not read the thread plus that counterclaim. Then the way he pivoted back from outright being willing to vote me in mylo, back to townreading me just because your slot isn't dead.... how does that come from the town version of someone who I've literally won a scumgame with as deepwolf?

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just for good measure

@Krazy, sorry to be this guy but if a mod error has occurred wrt flip flavours could you please correct it? I'll take silence as a "gtfo duck I'm perfect"

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What are the odds Krazy has borrowed a leaf from Alisae's book and sent the heads of the hydra different alignments?

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I'm so so willing to hold my vote til Mitillos comes back. there's too many holes in what he actually said for me to be comfortable going "lmao lynch all liars die scum" on his ass.

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What are the odds Krazy has borrowed a leaf from Alisae's book and sent the heads of the hydra different alignments?

Our playstyles are clearly incompatible. I dont think you are likely to see AN again, anytime soon. I still feel really awful about this development. :/

that's fair; like how Almost Chara or Reasonably Rational work the hunt for the perfect hydra partner is a long one... That was such a divergence from like the perspective and play we've seen from your slot tho :/

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and then bailing rather than explaining it.. I'm kinda wondering if he realised he outed himself and left you to pick up the pieces. is it just me who's thrown back into deep dark paranoia?

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I think we can only possibly win today by swinging the vote OFF Mitillos onto groupscum though. I'm so so sure he's the witch.

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yeah A50 is an awesome guy. being two good people doesn't necessarily make a good hydra unfortunately.. you're right in saying like approaches to the game and stuff like that can make a massive impact on compatibility.

Was your whole POA to this game around being townread?

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How confident are you that he isn't a third party?

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Sho I've gotta ask sorry. I'm trying to work out the best way to seize this back. What's your ability?

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I'll trust you on this.

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His flavour is very inconsistent with the scumteam being zerg based on the pm slip. I also think it was valid as a pm slip or a pt slip and don't have strong feelings one way or the other tbh. He quoted the mod vc in it so maybe 1% more likely a pm slip there.

Also a bit of like.... gamestate energy. He doesn't feel aligned with and I'm more disturbed by A50 than Mitillos from a groupscum/"nearly won" energy POV.

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I'm not as confident in tp as you are in groupscum.

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a nancy cop probably solves the game assuming we lynch Mit.

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i targeted him n1

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got literally no idea how to elaborate on that

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why do you think your roleblock failed?

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problem being like, that's also a very very good fakeclaim n1 rb because it can never be resolved after kokichi flipped
i'm also still..a tiny bit in awe about the two normal priority town roleblockers one of hwom is ungated thing

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ungated = no restrictions

i'm nonconsec

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i probably shouldn't have reminded everyone of that u_u

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eh i doubt it's a detail wolves miss here

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wait wtf there's a witch?

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i'm gonna have to be bleak again

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no lynch?

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valid

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@shoshin no need to explain fmpov. if you have an idea i'll sheep you.

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not really sure how to lynch 3 scum in a row, is all :/

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i'm still a little traumatised by accidentally being involved in the quickhammer on the town doublevoter.. :/

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Nancy, get over yourself. Your slot has done some fucked up things this game to the point where you need to be a lot more understanding of the fact that nobody is townreading you in the way you imagine they should.

If you want to get into this after the game, that's fine. But it's a totally irrelevant conversation to solving this game so I'm not going to address all the problems with your play at this time.

No, you don’t get to fucking tell me how to respond to this. Not when you’re responsible for three goddamned mislynches! I only have one in this game - including correctly reading Xtoxm - who you warned me was another Random. You really have some fucking nerve saying this to me and if you seriously think I am waiting until post-game to tolerate this unwarranted bullshit, you’re fucking delusional!

Nancy, take a break from the thread for a bit.

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I find it insane that we're not powerlynching Keyser right now but I see where you're coming from Shoshin. Tell me where my vote needs to go.

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town ... ic ... triple voter ...

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VOTE: Mitillos

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Shoshin's point that Keys is very unlikely to post that if Mitillos actually IS the witch is valid.

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the witch doesn't lynch claimed scum here though. if we get it to 4 votes with the entire town on keyser his buddies just freeze and the witch now knows not to vote him

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hammering Mew feels like my worst mistake. losing skitter that night was brutal as well.. :/

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Nancy what are your reads right now? Town in order of strength? Groupscum/soloscum equities?

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You think Varsoon is the witch? or...?

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UNVOTE:
vote's here in spirit. I'm starting to feel like intensely anxious particularly about who the witch is and I'm not totally trusting my PoE right now but I'm not sure where to go.

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VOTE: Mitillos

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L-1 obviously

I have slept on it and I now See The Light

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I got nothing. If this is actually town it's hitting two wolves and we're looking really, really good.

after seeing those reads tho ngl I'm happy youre not going into endgame

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That's a fucking cool gambit tho

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gg as fuck

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Shoshin do you still have a plan..?

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Nancy who did you block last night?

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Varsoon who did the Zerg target last night besides Nauci?

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Performer + ????

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like I'm pretty sure it has to be Nancy. I should have trusted my gut on Mitillos being the witch.

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and Nauci's gut.... fml

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What gambit?

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if you're still pretending to be town you and Performer's shitpost game is on point. T_T

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okay at least you're still hilarious... you owe me a great breakfast in bed after this. :/

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Keys is scum, like 100% lockscum

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:/

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That's fine but I'm starting to doubt a lot of my reads...

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shoshin could you please fullclaim? I'm sorry to force you on this but the last time I saw a fps no claim gambit this potent it was like. me. as a wolf...

pedit: I DON'T KNOW

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I THINK SO

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Basically I need to know your game plan. I have a block tonight and if you do have a way to bring us back from an unwinnable situation, I'll probably help you.