Just to comment on this briefly - I felt comfortable with you/me not winning, only because then pink winning would've required Elsa to play "dirty".
So I was more or less giving Elsa the chance to bone me/us (assuming they were pink) if they felt like being selfish.
Therefore "Elsa solo-winning only by showing their "true colors" < "no one winning" > "you solo-winning" (as I couldn't be sure about your alignment either)
That is also why I made sure to draw the line so that I'd handle our actions as a direct extension of the actual game.
I dislike the way Dva took their "victory" N1. I don't think it outright pins them as scum obviously, but I still think their approach to the game wasn't townlike.
We didn’t trust BEF with the vig, we’ve already said this, D2.
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Post #5073 (isolation #803) » Fri Jan 18, 2019 5:15 am
Postby DrewVa »
In post 4997, RCEnigma wrote:During our boonus round I thought about the way Drewva handled the game and would agree. Especially with how the day 1 Lynch played out and then getting a game with Alonzo.
Which makes me feel conflicted because otherwise I think Nancy is town and less so Dva which is the opposite of OK 2.
You will be finding this post extremely ironic, post-game.
In post 4511, profii wrote:nero played a game yesterday and is a day rep today
precedent is given to players who havent played the night game according to day rules.
we mislynched someone on the assumption scum inserted someone into day reps...
like i know nero has a lot of town reads but is anyone worried by that?
Good thought process here. I want to keep note of this.
Why should we be worried about that?
that was subtle way of saying
I don't want to out all the night game people if we are not claiming it today but if people who are involved in the night game think the pattern of winners = day reps is happening again, maybe that points us mechanically at scum!nero because he was already involved in yesterdays reps and the OP said people who weren't involved would get priority so why is nero even there.
but now that thread has come out - why were only 2 games in there or did I read it wrong?
I don’t really see why that’s so suspicious? I think you will see several players get more than one chance to play. I dunno, I think this is day rep paranoia in a different guise. We already mislynched, partially based on bad setup speculation.
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Post #5076 (isolation #805) » Fri Jan 18, 2019 5:22 am
Postby DrewVa »
In post 4999, mcqueen wrote:look im not gonna lie. i read through DrewVa’s hydra thread from overkill 2 where they were town and their posts here are very similar. DVa played differently in the boonus round, but so what? Let’s be honest we all want to win. And i buy their reason. If they’re not town in this game I’ll kick rocks in the dead thread/ post game
In post 4800, profii wrote:Weird - I have not given any thing - modifier or fruit to TLK. Something has interfered with my role
Some type of bus driver/redirector?
feasible - I mean I picked the person I made loyal because I thought I saw a breadcrumb that would make my loyal modifier really awesome for that breadcrumb.
if scum coincidently noticed it as well, then yes
but that's ambitious
I have another theory but I am waiting for something to happen on that front.
Has whomever you did give it to, confirmed it yet?
Although, if there’s no bus driver/redirector, it probably doesn’t matter.
In post 2544, profii wrote:I received a sticky fruit so I’m going to give the fruit to the person I made loyal and then I guess they can cop someone
Why would you make loyal and send sticky fruit to someone you scumread and voted?
PP - why do you think I made TLK loyal AND gave him the sticky fruit
bearing in mind i said i thought i saw a breadcrumb of a role that would be awesome for loyal - it was not TLK, i spotted the breadcrumb way before the SS claim but obviously i had until night to fully decide and giving a SS loyal is stupid as if he is legit town i don't want him to only be able to team kill (if that even works like that)
In post 5022, mcqueen wrote:what the heck is a ducky. is this some sort of joke
In post 5018, mcqueen wrote:are you claiming what i think you’re claiming elsa
Asking something like this might not be good for your health..
And me answering that question wouldn't likely help either of us as I have no way of knowing what you think you now know, and therefore confirming/denying anything makes no sense.
Just remember that I am a Ducky.
Not a joke.
I will flip "Town Ducky" when dead - guaranteed.
In post 2544, profii wrote:I received a sticky fruit so I’m going to give the fruit to the person I made loyal and then I guess they can cop someone
Why would you make loyal and send sticky fruit to someone you scumread and voted?
PP - why do you think I made TLK loyal AND gave him the sticky fruit
bearing in mind i said i thought i saw a breadcrumb of a role that would be awesome for loyal - it was not TLK, i spotted the breadcrumb way before the SS claim but obviously i had until night to fully decide and giving a SS loyal is stupid as if he is legit town i don't want him to only be able to team kill (if that even works like that)
Because you said you made loyal the person who you were giving the sticky fruit to. Obviously, if TLK is lying you didn't give either to him. Probably should have phrased it as a question, but I didn't. oh well.
This is really weird - i got the sticky fruit the day i gave the loyal out and the person who i made loyal is not reacting like they are loyal so i don't think the intended person got it either...
In post 2544, profii wrote:I received a sticky fruit so I’m going to give the fruit to the person I made loyal and then I guess they can cop someone
Why would you make loyal and send sticky fruit to someone you scumread and voted?
PP - why do you think I made TLK loyal AND gave him the sticky fruit
bearing in mind i said i thought i saw a breadcrumb of a role that would be awesome for loyal - it was not TLK, i spotted the breadcrumb way before the SS claim but obviously i had until night to fully decide and giving a SS loyal is stupid as if he is legit town i don't want him to only be able to team kill (if that even works like that)
Because you said you made loyal the person who you were giving the sticky fruit to. Obviously, if TLK is lying you didn't give either to him. Probably should have phrased it as a question, but I didn't. oh well.
This is really weird - i got the sticky fruit the day i gave the loyal out and the person who i made loyal is not reacting like they are loyal so i don't think the intended person got it either...
Urgh
There have been BOONus round prizes that cause ascetic. Would that prevent your invention ability? I would think so...
That would explain Profil’s intended target, not getting it but what accounts for TLK claiming to have gotten it? It seems like a really dumb fakeclaim to me but I dunno. \_0_/
In post 4803, BrightEyedFish wrote:Yeah, I think TLK made up that whole fruit thing. Just like the SS thing.
I can see the SS but why would someone make up receiving sticky fruit? But something definitely weird is going on with that.
Maybe TLK got a little stressed out form the pressure from PP about receiving something last night and just went out on a limb to say he received fruit.
But it seems an odd thing to fakeclaim, especially when he couldn’t have guessed what Penguin would have given him.
Well, profii had the fruit and he said he didn't pass it along to TLK. So either there is some mechainc/role that is redirecting or TLK lied. I would ask profii to say who he intended to give the fruit to but that would out his loyal gift as well so we can forget that from now.
Is it possible for there to be 2 fruit vendors?
Yes to your question.
Regarding the profi passing fruit part and that he claimed inventor, I'm starting to wonder if he should announce who he passed the fruit and his inventions on both nights to. Because more information may help us to discern the liar(s).
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Post #5121 (isolation #818) » Fri Jan 18, 2019 6:07 am
Postby DrewVa »
In post 5113, Cheeky Dancer wrote:@n&m Cheeky does different dances than me, so it has not been her so far today.
Also @dva or nancy, how you cannot tell , is mind boggling.
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In post 4882, RCEnigma wrote:I've played with Kokichi town but it was a rep into a lethargic game.
In SSBU Kokichi was lurky as scum but more involved...if that makes sense. Present enough to know what's going on but not draw attention. Active early that game though iirc.
This is true & probably the only thing that stands out for koki's play. As scum he's more involved, he enjoys playing scum more.
However after moderating a scum game of his, he is like creature - very capable to developing their scum play....
~ P
Except that Creature is a lot easier to read, well for me anyway. I think I’m a pretty decent Creature reader. I’m getting a bit better with Kokichi, I hope.
In post 5030, RCEnigma wrote:Inventor isn't in the rolebook either. Maybe the variants can be roles outside of the list? It's pretty confusing.
Are the people that you give modifiers to notified that this happens?
exactly - when i was claiming on day 1 it occurred to me my role wasn't on the list so i asked boon why and he said there can be variants.
so i am one - if we get too many variant claims we become a lynch pool immediately (including me obvs)
So does that mean, some form of redirect is possible?
Nope - Greatest possibility at the moment is TLK flapped in the face of PP asking about receiving and lied as he knew about the existence of the sticky fruit
I don’t want to put any more info out than that but it fits the mechanics without having to consider “did a redirect or hit the person I targeted to be our loyal” which is just a stretch too far for me
Well, a really bad fakeclaim in that case because obviously Penguin would catch him.
In post 5063, UnaBombaH wrote:I've played with Malakitty once before. (them as Malakittens)
It was a noobie, they were scum.
They were very busy at the time (if I remember correctly they work in a hospital or something), and tried to fakeclaim Doc in the old noobie-setup to escape lynch.
We got 'em, but lost to an in-replacing RC who destroyed my ass as a revenge for some other game where I won them..good times.
Formerfish I THINK I've bumped into somewhere, but can't say where.
Can't because I don't remember for sure..and it might have been on my alt whom I love deeply.
So basically next to no experience with that hydra.
Can you link to the game? This might have been before I was fully back to the site.
I haven’t rolled scum yet besides the infamous A50 game where I was a survivor and lost lmao
-M
Both of those games were extremely swingy and lucky me, getting the wrong role/alignment in the wrong game, BOTH times.
In post 5018, mcqueen wrote:are you claiming what i think you’re claiming elsa
Asking something like this might not be good for your health..
And me answering that question wouldn't likely help either of us as I have no way of knowing what you think you now know, and therefore confirming/denying anything makes no sense.
Just remember that I am a Ducky.
Not a joke.
I will flip "Town Ducky" when dead - guaranteed.
You mean this is an actual role?
Are the posts so far today on 1/18, coming from nancy or dva?
In post 5031, profii wrote:I am so confused but I'm just going to ignore the mechanics because something has gone very wrong haha - I am visiting family this weekend so will be bored and have time to go read stuff and just do regular scum huntings and ting fam yo brap.
Yeah I'm going to be v/la this weekend as well...as is the case for most weekends
In post 5066, Lamees wrote:Is it just me or have I seen both formerfish and malakitty both use max? Nev hasnt posted since day 1 I think.
I guess they're just trying to cause confusion or something.
Can anyone confess to giving TLK a sticky fruit last night? If not he's scum.
I dont sign posts, M usually does. The worst youll see is a post from her not signed by accident. I have been posting every day, you are severely misinformed.
Yeah, DVa also is the one who usually signs. I tend to forget unless asked.
In post 5018, mcqueen wrote:are you claiming what i think you’re claiming elsa
Asking something like this might not be good for your health..
And me answering that question wouldn't likely help either of us as I have no way of knowing what you think you now know, and therefore confirming/denying anything makes no sense.
Just remember that I am a Ducky.
Not a joke.
I will flip "Town Ducky" when dead - guaranteed.
You mean this is an actual role?
Are the posts so far today on 1/18, coming from nancy or dva?
In post 5031, profii wrote:I am so confused but I'm just going to ignore the mechanics because something has gone very wrong haha - I am visiting family this weekend so will be bored and have time to go read stuff and just do regular scum huntings and ting fam yo brap.
Yeah I'm going to be v/la this weekend as well...as is the case for most weekends
~ P
Nancy and why is that relevant?
Because I don't recall nancy town play asking so many strange questions....
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Also,
If you have 4 pens and I have 7 peaches, how many chinchillas & trees will fit on the roof? White, because we wear a hospital coat in a vet hospital.
~ P
Performer, do yourself a huge favour and ISO me. You only know my play from two games, one which you modded and I’m not sure how much you were paying attention in SC1 but yeah, you really need to do that, since you clearly aren’t familiar with my meta at all.
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Post #5161 (isolation #831) » Fri Jan 18, 2019 8:08 am
Postby DrewVa »
In post 4856, Nev and Max wrote:Are you saying that I dont have this type of play in my scum!game?
I'm saying that you scumcasing Alonzo the same night you planned to kill him in a quasi-neighborhood that you didn't know would be revealed seems like something I would not expect from scum. Also it was Nancy that was scumreading you, I kinda just moved you down to null-scum and now I'm kinda moving you to null-town/townish -d
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Post #5171 (isolation #836) » Fri Jan 18, 2019 8:30 am
Postby DrewVa »
Pretty sure Nancy has Gamma as locktown. I'm not as sure as Nancy, but I don't want to lynch Gamma today.
Thanos is one I have circled on many times. Lamees feels very different from {redacted}. Auro seems bored most of the time. When I got into that big 1v1 with them back on day 1 or whatever, I kinda thought Auro probably wouldn't have let it go on that long or get that blown out if he was scum. But Lamees seems pretty scummy and I didn't particularly like how Lamees has responded to the stuff in the Boonus. I guess I have doubts about the slot but ... some of the time when I have mixed feelings like this on a slot it flips town. But I also don't have a lot of slots I would say are scummier than Lamees, so very conflicted. -d
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Post #5182 (isolation #841) » Fri Jan 18, 2019 8:49 am
Postby DrewVa »
In post 5062, davesaz wrote:Just realized I misread something that makes Elsa much more likely to be town.
please share!
In post 5072, PenguinPower wrote:I mean...the fact that N&M haven't once written a 5000 word post should have been a dead giveaway that mastina was not one of the heads.
In post 5100, PenguinPower wrote:wow It's almost like asceticizer gets redirected to rolestopper imo.
don't you start
In post 5178, Elsa Jay wrote:If it's "broke" but nobody corrects it... Is it really broken?
I seem to recall lynching you the first game you did it, and in the second one it... somehow... got scum... to kill you...?
Ok I guess excalibur probably did not make you want to stop fake claiming
I've actually played with Creature a lot.
I mean, I've finished a little under 40 games on site, and played with Creature something like..ten times? Ballpark.
Well, if you think he’s scum here, you don’t know how to read him.