Project ARCH - Epilogue

[Gamma Emerald]

Who needs returning cast members when you got a new city and new surrounding?

The surroundings may change, but war never changes.

[Gamma Emerald]

Im thinking about whoever is being lynched could nitpick who is on their wagon, it could offset a t flip, gives more power to a lynchee and give reads if a mefia is lynched and is torned between selecting scum or town on wagon, discuss

This sounds like a good idea but could you please proofread your posts

[Gamma Emerald]

... I'm saying negative utility town could be used now to let people get serum, not that they're mafia. Jesus. When I'm talking about A and B, that doesn't mean you combine em.

So you think we should lynch, say, a miller, who you don't think is mafia, so that we get serum?

Yes I do. The weak are fuel for the stronger ones here.

I personally disapprove of this course of action, we should always lynch scum over town.

[Gamma Emerald]

Natural selection at it's finest.

Please tell me you don't see the value of the Mod making Negative utility roles as free food for the stronger roles to get more shit. Gimme an easy early scumread.

Actually, why shouldn't I view your proposition as scum-motivated? On top of not lynching scum you give scum an easy reason to vote these people.
VOTE: Bambi Jay

[Gamma Emerald]

Hey we had a serum debate. Let's have a company debate!

Anyone against claiming companies?

I don't see the benefit.

[Gamma Emerald]

Ha, I've seen it work in face to face, but that's not what I'm doing. I just thought he was talking about the alignments (rebels specifically) in a more detached way than I would expect.

I like this take for town rn

[Gamma Emerald]

Oof.
VOTE: Rautherdir
Did not think scum would be slipping on page 5.

[Gamma Emerald]

Wait maybe not

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Bambi
I'm voting this again and would like responses to why I voted this, in fact

[Gamma Emerald]

I mean I can see why you're voting Bambi but I'm not sure whether or not I think that's AI or not right now. I've seen town give similar suggestions before, and I think that might have been just a play to get us out of RVS.

Understood but I'd like affirmation from Bambi that this is the case.

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: purple anime detective

She's actually more pink

[Gamma Emerald]

Reasonable.

[Gamma Emerald]

What's a lot lizard

[Gamma Emerald]

Speaking of last game, who's gonna be the Mathblade that causes me to go into a 30 page death spiral of madness culminating in a giant all caps rant this time?

VOTE: purple anime detective

Thank you for volunteering.

We can skip directly to the all caps omgus part if you want

Nah dude, it's about the build. We both have to be completely wrong about everything for 30 pages until we both look and sound like meth'd out lot lizards, THEN we go ballistic.

My gf keeps telling me im not good w/ build up

Yeah, she mentioned it.

What's a lot lizard

On the one hand, I want to tell you to google it. On the other hand, I want you to put SafeSearch on first just in case.

I'm 19 I should be fine

[Gamma Emerald]

Natural selection at it's finest.

Please tell me you don't see the value of the Mod making Negative utility roles as free food for the stronger roles to get more shit. Gimme an easy early scumread.

Actually, why shouldn't I view your proposition as scum-motivated? On top of not lynching scum you give scum an easy reason to vote these people.
VOTE: Bambi Jay

Ah shit, here we go again.

VOTE: Bambi
I'm voting this again and would like responses to why I voted this, in fact

Can't you guys figure out why I did that based on my personality? Spelling it out just seems tedious.

I could but what if I want you to spell it out

[Gamma Emerald]

Btw I looked it up: not that disturbing, thankfully I had urbandictionary as the top result

[Gamma Emerald]

Oh yeah btw WhemeStar, I'M NOT HAPPY WITH YOU

[Gamma Emerald]

...

[Gamma Emerald]

F's in the chat

[Gamma Emerald]

I am Dunnstral

I was going to follow this up with "...and I'm a miller." in my next post, but after post 15 I wanted to see what Bambi's deal was

Looking at Dunn's post after this drew me back to this
@Dunn nice, wanna just ping pong Avengers memes for a while

[Gamma Emerald]

We should start running up some players that have brought only lame discussions so far.

orly

Welcome

I hope we all can have a meeting some time

I like all this fan theory.

Argh I keep procrastinating

I mean, at the very least can you not make it a quote pyramid at the same time? Please?
Also, why did that vote happen CloudKicker. I can't tell why you made the vote from your previous posts or context.

I know you are trying to distance yourself from me when I openchainsawed your slot

lol this is such useless jargon i feel like it's made from a scum who is trying to play off as an informative townie

VOTE: CloudKicker

lol why me

VOTE: CloudKicker

VOTE: Fred The Cat

[Gamma Emerald]

It's gonna be hard to determine which of CloudKicker/Fred is being stupid and the other is just scum

Why do you think it's one each?

[Gamma Emerald]

Also: If Any Millers or some shit wanna claim so we can murder you to get some Serum that would be nice.

Why didn't you wait a miller claim first?

Because Dunn is basically confirmed town and shiz. That's why I did it page one before the Miller or someone appeared to give them shit if they DIDN'T claim.

I'm still open for the negative utility thing but Dunn's more useful alive. I did this mainly to get a read on a Miller. Wish it was somebody besides Dunn tho.

But Dunn didn't claim miller?

You're forgiven for missing it but I quoted the post with the claim

Also UNVOTE:

[Gamma Emerald]

Why do you keep saying mefia

It's his gimmick

[Gamma Emerald]

dunn havent you played with cloud before ???

They said mafia normally back then

So I thought this was a crock of shit but turns out in Perfect Blue Mafia CK actually did what Dunn is saying

[Gamma Emerald]

dunn havent you played with cloud before ???

They said mafia normally back then

So I thought this was a crock of shit but turns out in Perfect Blue Mafia CK actually did what Dunn is saying

Why is this what you went to research?

Because I felt it was weird you thought this because I recall CK saying mefia for a while now

[Gamma Emerald]

Idk what head it is either pls clarify

Lol

[Gamma Emerald]

Why do you think User 8 would die early, Program Maria.R?

[Gamma Emerald]

Why do you think User 8 would die early, Program Maria.R?

My code name is H.O.P.E. If you require a name to call me User 9.
If user 18 is being truthful about his modifier it makes him a high-value termination target. So it requires less thinking.

Thank you H.O.P.E. Are you talking about User 18 being a good lynch or a good nightkill? That's where my confusion currently lies.

[Gamma Emerald]

Why do you think User 18 poses a significant threat to Simotech in that case?

[Gamma Emerald]

MariaR posting is odd, and i dont mean the post restriction.

Why do you say this user 17?

Why do you think User 18 poses a significant threat to Simotech in that case?

there are easy ways to tell if what user 18 is saying is truthful or not, I believe Simotech will want to remove that possibility before we get the chance.

An interesting expectation but since the game is bastard I don't know how reliable that might be

[Gamma Emerald]

19 is a weird size for a game

In my mind, the progression goes like this:
5 people: 1 mafia
9 people: 2 mafia
13 people: 3 mafia
17 people: 4 mafia
21 people: 5 mafia

So I think third party is pretty likely. Or maybe I'm just wrong and 19 is considered normal for 4 scum

Third party could be possible idk

[Gamma Emerald]

19 is a weird size for a game

In my mind, the progression goes like this:
5 people: 1 mafia
9 people: 2 mafia
13 people: 3 mafia
17 people: 4 mafia
21 people: 5 mafia

So I think third party is pretty likely. Or maybe I'm just wrong and 19 is considered normal for 4 scum

town might have killing power and more town to compensate for it

Town needs extra town to compensate for town killing power though?

I disagree with this, there are 10:3 games with Vigilantes incorporated into them that are still able to be considered balanced without chucking in more town

[Gamma Emerald]

19 is a weird size for a game

In my mind, the progression goes like this:
5 people: 1 mafia
9 people: 2 mafia
13 people: 3 mafia
17 people: 4 mafia
21 people: 5 mafia

So I think third party is pretty likely. Or maybe I'm just wrong and 19 is considered normal for 4 scum

town might have killing power and more town to compensate for it

Town needs extra town to compensate for town killing power though?

I disagree with this, there are 10:3 games with Vigilantes incorporated into them that are still able to be considered balanced without chucking in more town

That's what I'm saying actually

Yeah I realize that but I was to lazy to respond to a different post

[Gamma Emerald]

You mean
Reality is often disappointing.

[Gamma Emerald]

#ThanosDidNothingWrong

[Gamma Emerald]

@RedPanda what's the point of the list?

[Gamma Emerald]

Helps you how? And I won't ask you to stop unless I view it as harmful.

[Gamma Emerald]

I think you're doing scummy work and if you explain how it isn't I won't mind it

[Gamma Emerald]

Wasn't aware it anything to do with role
Mkay

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: RedPanda
So I'm scum for "openly rolefishing" when I shouldn't suspect you for openly trying to dig up company information?

[Gamma Emerald]

Btw I'm gonna be straight here, my vote is pure OMGUS because the vote on me for doing something incredibly similar to what RedPanda was doing but inadvertently is

such

a double standard.

[Gamma Emerald]

Pls don't do meth

[Gamma Emerald]

Btw I'm gonna be straight here, my vote is pure OMGUS because the vote on me for doing something incredibly similar to what RedPanda was doing but inadvertently is

such

a double standard.

Did NO ONE care about this post? I expected more reaction to it.

[Gamma Emerald]

Oh yeah btw WhemeStar, I'M NOT HAPPY WITH YOU

WHY ARENT YOU HAPPY

YOULEFT ME BEHIND

[Gamma Emerald]

Oh yeah btw WhemeStar, I'M NOT HAPPY WITH YOU

WHY ARENT YOU HAPPY

YOULEFT ME BEHIND

WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT

Large Normal 213

[Gamma Emerald]

No I do not agree.

[Gamma Emerald]

No I do not agree.

Read what I said before game

Wdym, before game?

[Gamma Emerald]

Then maybe tell your team instead of being a flake

[Gamma Emerald]

What Head is this

It's obviously RC
Btw I'm going to be tuning out CC until Nancy steps in again because RC does this every game with me and I don't know why

[Gamma Emerald]

Wheme I'm RadiantCowbells.

VOTE: Celestial Coordinates

Sorry are you the real gamma partner?

Where does your random ass certainty that Maria is scum that you didn't care to push until I called gamma outed scum come from?

If I'm partners with Wheme there's no way I do what I did here, plus just in general this isn't scum!Wheme

[Gamma Emerald]

What Head is this

It's obviously RC
Btw I'm going to be tuning out CC until Nancy steps in again because RC does this every game with me and I don't know why

No, I don't. And you know I don't

Oh really? I KNOW you did it in You've Got Mail and you've done it plenty in other games to my memory

[Gamma Emerald]

The only remotely game I errantly tunneled you was as Music and Mail where I also played one of my all time worst games. That doesn't mean I scumread you all the time. That's just a traditional scum deflection of pressure that you know isn't going away.

M&M was the Diffusion of Power right? How was that one of your worst?

[Gamma Emerald]

Oh boy RC's already doing that thing he always does where he pinpoints scum and strongarms their lynch.

I'm town. Try again brainiac.

[Gamma Emerald]

My reads were very good in you got mail.

I also didn't hard scumread you like you're claiming.

OH FUCKING REALLY? YOU HARD TUNNELED ME FROM DAY 2 UNTIL I WAS DAMN NEAR CONF!TOWN, DON'T EVEN FUCKING TRY TO LIE ABOUT THAT.

[Gamma Emerald]

My reads were very good in you got mail.

I also didn't hard scumread you like you're claiming.

OH FUCKING REALLY? YOU HARD TUNNELED ME FROM DAY 2 UNTIL I WAS DAMN NEAR CONF!TOWN, DON'T EVEN FUCKING TRY TO LIE ABOUT THAT.

I don't know your experience with RC but how likely is it for him to exaggerate a read on you as scum? Town?

I don't recall him exaggerating but I do recall faking reads a lot

[Gamma Emerald]

It could be fake or he could genuinely believe what he's saying. Either way I've been looking for quotes from YGM to demonstrate RC's progression and the bottom paragraph of this quote is honestly why I have a problem with RC.

It's like the shit LA wagon in FGs game

I'm really tired of people wagoning people for the same terrible reasons game after game like when you consecutively lead on town for the same silly set of reasons you would think people would learn better. I feel like most people aren't even trying to prove their reads, they're just lynching people who trigger them even if they are perpetually triggered by town

[Gamma Emerald]

Gamma forgetting that I hard defended him all of You Got Mail is a possibility. The problem isn't just him being wrong about it.

But if he's going through that game he should be realizing that fact instead of picking out quotes that push a narrative of 'RC always derptunnels me' when I was a lot of the reason he never got lynched that game.

I might actually be wrong, I'm on D2 stuff in that game and while you backed off your townread on me it's still there
But I swear at one point you deathtunneled me and you didn't stop until my role was confirmed

[Gamma Emerald]

No. You're wrong. Objectively wrong if you read the game.

And you still trying to push it like it's a thing is a terrible look.

Well I'm working on it rn

[Gamma Emerald]

Also I'm super concerned at Sakura helping none despite being in that game too
PEdit: because I'm town? Like I don't get that question.

[Gamma Emerald]

because I'm town? Like I don't get that question.

Why am I wrong on you

Not why am I town

Also why should Sakura be supporting you, when again, I never scumread you in that game? Why are you still trying to use arguments based off of something that is objectively untrue based on reading that you just did?

I can't really tell you how you're wrong if the only thing you're willing to say on the matter is "Gamma is scum". If you want a town case on myself I'd say I have been proactively questioning things and I feel like what I'm questioning is what town!me would question.

As for Sakura, I don't give a shit that she is for or against me but I've called out YGM and Sakura saying nothing about that is a massive fucking problem.

[Gamma Emerald]

WTF Brian, i never played that game.

Pardon?

[Gamma Emerald]

Although I guess it's possible i in'd to that as hydra before quitting and brian went with the hydra acct instead, but the only mafia game i played with that hydra was the children of hurin one.

Greaaaaat

[Gamma Emerald]

Actually was it Nancy who kept tunneling me in YGM? I came across her stating a scumread on me so it might be that.

[Gamma Emerald]

Gamma forgetting that I hard defended him all of You Got Mail is a possibility. The problem isn't just him being wrong about it.

But if he's going through that game he should be realizing that fact instead of picking out quotes that push a narrative of 'RC always derptunnels me' when I was a lot of the reason he never got lynched that game.

I might actually be wrong, I'm on D2 stuff in that game and while you backed off your townread on me it's still there
But I swear at one point you deathtunneled me and you didn't stop until my role was confirmed

I was right

gamma's scum and with the benefit of hindsight it's really obvious when you read thor/gamma isos together

From this point until it was confirmed UB couldn't back up a town role as scum you pushed me, RC. Which btw was absolutely fucking idiotic off this premise after Thor pushed me as scum so hard.

[Gamma Emerald]

I guess gamma already did it

But he could just be sayin that so I don’t vote him

I believe I read u right in one of the RC Upicks

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm still waiting on that gamesolve that'll never come from Celestial on Maria. Sad times.

You're aware that read was a test right

[Gamma Emerald]

Rc tell me who to vote if ur wrong I vote you

Why would the answer to that not be the person that I'm currently voting?

Cause you switch your vote every 2 posts

Maybe I always want to be voting the person who I think has the highest odds of flipping scum and that fluctuates through the game?
I might switch off of Kidamn from here, I might not, but if you want to BoP me you should follow me on my rapid flurry of votes.
It's very typical of my current town game to cycle wagons on people, which you would of course know if you knew how to read me.

While being able to do this would be great I've accepted that sometimes it doesn't really work out and I've become a bit more comfortable with compromise

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm still waiting on that gamesolve that'll never come from Celestial on Maria. Sad times.

You're aware that read was a test right

Test isn't the word I'd use

I prefer the word meme

Alrighty then. Btw I'm curious what you thought of my RP vote reasoning post since you were/are convinced I was/am scum.

[Gamma Emerald]

Alrighty then. Btw I'm curious what you thought of my RP vote reasoning post since you were/are convinced I was/am scum.

I didn't think you were scum until you came in saying dumbass shit about me scumreading you all game in a game where i townread you most of the time

Understandable
Also @Wheme just looking at what I've done what is your read on me

[Gamma Emerald]

CK I agree with CC that it doesn't look like a slip

[Gamma Emerald]

Like if I just want to lynch KidAmn I don't have to do anything. I could not post for the remainder of the day and KidAmn would die with the momentum that already exists.

Uh, no

Why not

[Gamma Emerald]

I've typed out and deleted a vote on Primate about a dozen times. I don't like that slot and I think it would be one that I'd find easy to sort with a wagon.

Could you go into why you don't like it?

[Gamma Emerald]

Let's give VOTE: Primate a shot.

He's multiple times posted to say he's present without posting anything and made excuses for why his reads wouldn't be good (ie surface level)
That whole "barfumple is being voted for being barfumple" is a pretty scum indicative post in that context and it's a lot more sideliney in the way that I scumread Kidamn for being than Kidamn actually was. At the very least let's vote him so that he fully commits to the game and if he's town we can wipe him off the list.

At some point a couple years ago he was one of the people I deep dove and I've read every game he's ever played so he shouldn't be hard to read long term.

Hm, I kinda agree with the assessment of the "voting X for being X" statement but also it felt a bit peculiar in a way that I shall now address:
@Primate: who in this game have you played with before?

[Gamma Emerald]

Like if I just want to lynch KidAmn I don't have to do anything. I could not post for the remainder of the day and KidAmn would die with the momentum that already exists.

Uh, no

Why not

Kidamn didn't have THAT much momentum

Since he's switched gears now anyway, it only really got up to 5 votes, not the 7 he claimed

I disagree tbh

[Gamma Emerald]

Like if I just want to lynch KidAmn I don't have to do anything. I could not post for the remainder of the day and KidAmn would die with the momentum that already exists.

Uh, no

Why not

Kidamn didn't have THAT much momentum

Since he's switched gears now anyway, it only really got up to 5 votes, not the 7 he claimed

I disagree tbh

OK. Let's come back to this later and see if Kidamn gets lynched off of the current momentum, and we can figure out who's right

I don't like this post, seems way too focused on being right than actually having solid discourse

[Gamma Emerald]

I don't like this post, seems way too focused on being right than actually having solid discourse

I'm willing to talk about how I'm right later if you want

That's not what I want to talk about, I want to talk about how the wagon as it was then wasn't a considerable amount of momentum in your eyes

[Gamma Emerald]

I think superfan is town

I believe I've only seen them as scum once, and I was on their team - I don't know how much they could have improved that ga,e/don't remember what was going on at the time

Both Katyusha-chan and I possess scumgames that are easy to underestimate, from what I recall she was in a BAD DEPRESSIVE episode during that game so I would not really hold it against her or use that as a baseline if thou'rt intending on relying on META for reading usヽ( ´¬`)ノ

Can second this, scumYusha is extremely dangerous

[Gamma Emerald]

Why are ppl voting primate again

lol

[Gamma Emerald]

Didn't you not do much in TM2018 or were you in the game Ali modded

[Gamma Emerald]

Fair enough

[Gamma Emerald]

The potential for having scumslipped isn't even the best reason to think Rautherdir is scum here.

What is then
I don't buy too much into any scumslip anyway

[Gamma Emerald]

You ever gonna post that Link of the game where I was scum and played with you or whatever words you used

Why can't you find it yourself I posted the name/number

[Gamma Emerald]

why wouldn't you do this as scum? discredit a strong town player, attempt to tilt me and reduce the quality of my reads,

I think you overestimate my scum game rofl

The fact you exclude the part that doesn't fit this counterpoint isn't a good look

[Gamma Emerald]

You ever gonna post that Link of the game where I was scum and played with you or whatever words you used

Why can't you find it yourself I posted the name/number

What do you think about Unwnd?

Idk

[Gamma Emerald]

I guarantee that is not an actual posting restriction and it's just Maria being cheeky

don't know why they entered with this

*extends arms outward in front of them, palms open and face up*
*raises left hand, lowers right hand*
*raises right hand, lowers left hand*

To the left, take it back now y'all
One hop this time, right foot let's stomp
Left foot let's stomp, cha cha real smooth

This and the last post both were responses to CHK, don't know the meaning of it though

Mechanics talk is probably annoyingly necessary, but I also find most people who have talked about to be null. I think it matters more what you do with the knowledge of mechanics rather than just uh, talking about them

this is a decent take

I mean, at the very least can you not make it a quote pyramid at the same time? Please?
Also, why did that vote happen CloudKicker. I can't tell why you made the vote from your previous posts or context.

I know you are trying to distance yourself from me when I openchainsawed your slot

lol this is such useless jargon i feel like it's made from a scum who is trying to play off as an informative townie

VOTE: CloudKicker

I don't really see how this is "confusing jargon"

We should start running up some players that have brought only lame discussions so far.

1. Fred the Cat

a lot of people made posts like this but this one feels flatter than some others

I mean, at the very least can you not make it a quote pyramid at the same time? Please?
Also, why did that vote happen CloudKicker. I can't tell why you made the vote from your previous posts or context.

I know you are trying to distance yourself from me when I openchainsawed your slot

lol this is such useless jargon i feel like it's made from a scum who is trying to play off as an informative townie

VOTE: CloudKicker

lol why me

Your sentence made no sense, but like actually

What did you mean by him openchainsawing your slot? That's not even a proper term

It's a mafia shorthand portmanteau, what's so odd about it?

It's gonna be hard to determine which of CloudKicker/Fred is being stupid and the other is just scum

This isn't just a false dichotomy, it's non existent as no one else was looking at these two like this. Also regardless of this dichotomy making no sense:

i like cloud i dont think hes even being dumb or like unreasonably scummy just hard to understand

I just get the feeling he doesn't believe in half of the things he says

Whether or not this is just lolhumor or intentional is yet to be determined

This makes me think it makes more sense for unwnd to assume Cloudy is scum, which makes the last thing I quoted make less sense.

i like cloud i dont think hes even being dumb or like unreasonably scummy just hard to understand

I just get the feeling he doesn't believe in half of the things he says

Whether or not this is just lolhumor or intentional is yet to be determined

Can you please make a case about the post you dislike, what doesnt sound genuine etc. I already explained the post you didn’t understand, I am assuming you fos me for other posts.

I think you're weird and I don't get your humor but others don't think it's scummy

You explained what you meant but why does him openchainsawing and distancing (your words) mean. As in, the person you said you were doing those things. Are they scum?

I'll talk about this below.

i like cloud i dont think hes even being dumb or like unreasonably scummy just hard to understand

I just get the feeling he doesn't believe in half of the things he says

Whether or not this is just lolhumor or intentional is yet to be determined

Can you please make a case about the post you dislike, what doesnt sound genuine etc. I already explained the post you didn’t understand, I am assuming you fos me for other posts.

I think you're weird and I don't get your humor but others don't think it's scummy

You explained what you meant but why does him openchainsawing and distancing (your words) mean. As in, the person you said you were doing those things. Are they scum?

I was only calling green gear mefia if I was mefia so you can imagine it wasn’t shading and only banter, so no that post had no genuine reads behind it.

You don’t know what distancing means?
A good amount of mefia games are partly solved via associatives between slot aka how mefia tends to interact because they share their hidden win condition. So a lot of mefia will go out of their way to make posts with the sole purpose to make good interactions with their other mefia members, so when people ISO either slot once thwy are flipped mefia, it will not be obvious who the others mefias are.
Is that better? I implied that it was what green gear was doing with me, implying we were both mefia

No, no

I'm asking you why you said those things about Rautherdir in 154. Like what does it mean in terms of how you read him

at this point it is very clear 154 was a joke anyway. And unwnd weebs to get this so it's very strange he's still taking it seriously?

Vifam I don't know why you didn't proceed to vote Gamma when I said I'd hop on with you

This is a sure sign unwnd isn't taking people's votes closely

My issue with you right now is that even if you feel validated in defending yourself, I dunno why you would bother. If RC is the type of person that will push you regardless of alignment (going by what you told me) then I don't know what you gain entertaining him. Another thing I'm not the biggest fan of is your snapback to Sakura and insisting you're town, which I find tilted scum tend to do. I'd rather see you try to solve your attackers instead of getting petty

I wanted to hammer out whether I was wrong about the meta because I have been boneheadedly mistaken about past game details, as Katyusha can attest to, so I wanted to get the facts straight before I really concluded how I felt about RC's actions.

I think RC is pretty solvable and I don't know why he needs excuses to refuse to interact with him

Not even close to CloudKicker

A lot of unwnd's posts focus on Cloudy so these two aren't scum together imo

If you don't trust either right now Kid is this more indicative of null or that you suspect both

Decent post imo

I don't know any of your personalities besides Maria hence I commented on it, and I'm not sure why personality should be a starting point for why you're town lol

I'm gonna come back to this post a while later, probably within a week

So overall there's a couple decent posts by unwnd but overall it's rather scummy imo

[Gamma Emerald]

My statement about semantics was a general read on the thread and not pertaining to you. I don't think the things being discussed and you leading the helm of said discussion is all that interesting

Boiling it down to semantics doesn't make sense when, again, most of my pushes were just "lol I am RC I am goat sheep me"

Yeah that kinda is why I'm not interested, maybe you're more self-aware than you give off sometimes

Yes I still dislike Gamma because he's been given all the opportunity to try and solve you as you willingly give out opinions and he's chosen to duck his head and pretend nobody notices.

I already solved CC pretty solidly imo

[Gamma Emerald]

Be a good girl and vote him for me please Gamma

Can do
VOTE: unwnd

[Gamma Emerald]

Why

Like this feels like he's trying to solve things in the way beyond what i could possibly imagine, while i feel scum RC would be strongarming a lynch and be less susceptive to changes in the flow to change his actual "solving plan".
That plus it doesnt feel like he's going after easy targets and is actually poking people and try to game solve, he just does it in a way that tends to irk people.

I could towncase RC but this probably says what I'd end up saying

[Gamma Emerald]

Moreover what is your current read on Gamma and him saying 'IDK' about me and then trying to bring up a quotewall when provoked

Ok I just noticed this and it's bullshit, the quote wall was me forming a read because I knew if I didn't have a read on you I should get one, and it just took a while because I was trying to do a quote wall on mobile while playing other games too.

[Gamma Emerald]

I guess we have found the admin of H O P E monkaS

Dwuh?

[Gamma Emerald]

User 9 virus % slowly rising with every new input...Fake logic detected. Would like to put into extermination process

At this point either MariaR is either scum or has lost the ability to read me right because every time they've talked about me it's been to call me scum
I'm leaning the former now that it is in words

[Gamma Emerald]

The exact same thing I said that was happening in #804 seems to be coming to fruition

I should've named myself Soothsayer

Ok I just noticed this and it's bullshit, the quote wall was me forming a read because I knew if I didn't have a read on you I should get one, and it just took a while because I was trying to do a quote wall on mobile while playing other games too.

I don't know why you need to explain yourself like this if you weren't provoked or don't feel like you did anything wrong in the first place

Because you were making it out like that was the case??? You had just said I posted the read wall "when provoked" which wasn't true so I was disproving that.

[Gamma Emerald]

Why do you scumread anyone who provokes you besides RC Gamma

1) this is a lie, if I were to scumread MariaR for provoking me it would've come a lot sooner
2) I didn't scumread RC because it was equally likely that it was town!RC just being very wrong
3) p sure other people have provoked me without me suspecting them

[Gamma Emerald]

@CC if you want to vote Maria/HOPE I'm more than down

[Gamma Emerald]

Why do you scumread anyone who provokes you besides RC Gamma

1) this is a lie, if I were to scumread MariaR for provoking me it would've come a lot sooner
2) I didn't scumread RC because it was equally likely that it was town!RC just being very wrong
3) p sure other people have provoked me without me suspecting them

As far as I remember this is the first time you interacted with her? I won't argue the point of provoking you because apparently that idea is something you get very defensive about, which I imagine means you are uh, provoked. Like, if it didn't bother you? You wouldn't response. You wouldn't care. You're right you didn't scumread RC, but as far as I remember you toyed with the idea of what alignment he was and never gave a solid definition. Why do you feel like you're wrong now? He hasn't been playing any different besides backing off you. This is why I said I feel like you only scumread people who provoke you, because you were getting all mad and frustrated even FULL CAPS about RC's read on you earlier and now it doesn't even matter and he's just town?

Why does the last point matter?

I definitely interacted with Maria earlier. And I only took offense to the "being provoked" thing because it was used to attack my wall when that was extremely not the case, I just took a while because I had some points that criss crossed between posts I was looking at. Yes I did toy with the idea of RC being scum but I figured it was easier to not go with that because if RC were scum then they'd probably get me lynched anyway, and it worked our because by assuming RC was town I got a sense that they were being genuine in pushing me. The reason I was going all caps was because I was convinced RC was wrong about the YGM game, and I stopped yelling when I read that game and realized "oh shit I was the wrong one". The last point matters because it contradicts what you're saying.

[Gamma Emerald]

Why do you scumread anyone who provokes you besides RC Gamma

1) this is a lie, if I were to scumread MariaR for provoking me it would've come a lot sooner
2) I didn't scumread RC because it was equally likely that it was town!RC just being very wrong
3) p sure other people have provoked me without me suspecting them

As far as I remember this is the first time you interacted with her? I won't argue the point of provoking you because apparently that idea is something you get very defensive about, which I imagine means you are uh, provoked. Like, if it didn't bother you? You wouldn't response. You wouldn't care. You're right you didn't scumread RC, but as far as I remember you toyed with the idea of what alignment he was and never gave a solid definition. Why do you feel like you're wrong now? He hasn't been playing any different besides backing off you. This is why I said I feel like you only scumread people who provoke you, because you were getting all mad and frustrated even FULL CAPS about RC's read on you earlier and now it doesn't even matter and he's just town?

Why does the last point matter?

I definitely interacted with Maria earlier. And I only took offense to the "being provoked" thing because it was used to attack my wall when that was extremely not the case, I just took a while because I had some points that criss crossed between posts I was looking at. Yes I did toy with the idea of RC being scum but I figured it was easier to not go with that because if RC were scum then they'd probably get me lynched anyway, and it worked our because by assuming RC was town I got a sense that they were being genuine in pushing me. The reason I was going all caps was because I was convinced RC was wrong about the YGM game, and I stopped yelling when I read that game and realized "oh shit I was the wrong one". The last point matters because it contradicts what you're saying.

I again don't know why you need to explain yourself if you did nothing wrong. This tangent you're getting into and trying to cover all bases makes me feel worse about you than better. I make stupid and shitty reads all the time, let alone embarrass myself

If you accept RC was a bad read, that's fine. Instead you have some coordinated reason as to why it was bad and it comes off like you're self-aware in a way that you don't want anything leading back to you

Cool, apparently I'm scum for actually being able to fucking defend myself, piss off. I started explaining myself because you presented a bullshit interpretation of my actions and I wanted to make clear what the actual situation was. Also if you didn't want me doing a war of the words, maybe don't respond to a pointed list with a wall of text?

[Gamma Emerald]

Cloudy I really want you to try and justify unwnd's interactions with your slot as town because they really aren't imo

[Gamma Emerald]

Well of course you would I'm pushing you
But to respond more thoroughly yeah I'm frustrated because you appear to be using twisty fucking language and when people do that it makes me angry because it's really hard to argue with. And I'm saying the behavior in response to my own is scummy because 1) that's what I think, I already believe you're scum so you resounding like this just reinforces my feelings, and for Maria it's the fact we actually have a good rate of reading each other so for her to consistent push me like this sends alarms ringing in my mind, and it's not the first time she's tried this playing scum against me either. 2) sometimes I just end up reading people based on how they interact with me, I've been told I've had OMGUS style reads in the past.

[Gamma Emerald]

Cloudy I really want you to try and justify unwnd's interactions with your slot as town because they really aren't imo

The dichotomy post is probably the worst in the thread and his pushes on me were bad, but can see it coming from town. Tone wise I think he’s doing too good of a job for mefia, shrugs, I am a sucker for tone

Well that won't convince me because content-wise unwnd is abysmal and if you admit you are weak to that kind of thing maybe you should take it with a grain of salt

[Gamma Emerald]

Fyi Cloudy I'm interested in convincing you because a large part of my read on him is based on how he interacted with you. If you can articulate the tone townread and it actually sounds good I'll probably stop voting him

[Gamma Emerald]

Cloudy I really want you to try and justify unwnd's interactions with your slot as town because they really aren't imo

The dichotomy post is probably the worst in the thread and his pushes on me were bad, but can see it coming from town. Tone wise I think he’s doing too good of a job for mefia, shrugs, I am a sucker for tone

Well that won't convince me because

content-wise unwnd is abysmal

and if you admit you are weak to that kind of thing maybe you should take it with a grain of salt

So overall there's a couple decent posts by unwnd but overall it's rather scummy imo

A few good apples doesn't save a spoiled bunch, keeping in mind I tried to trim posts where I would retread the same ground and that was the case for a fair bit of posts re: your treatment of Cloudy, it's a pretty spoiled bunch

[Gamma Emerald]

It's a read based on a fairly confident alt guess.

This reminds me
I thought unwnd was an alt but turns out they just have offsite experience with certain people enough to make me think I know them

[Gamma Emerald]

If I wind up wrong I don't know where I will go next because a lot of things can happen between now and then and I don't have any preconceptions about what might be the case if that happens because I'm not trying to think two steps ahead rn
And wtf is this about appealing to others

[Gamma Emerald]

Possibly, part of "things can happen" is other people may end up lynched, or other things I don't want to talk about. And I don't particularly care about "repercussions", no.
Again tho wdym appealing to others

[Gamma Emerald]

It's called other scum exist, and if Cloudy brings up a good reason to townread you I might take his word
Like the reason I called your content abysmal was to state that tone wasn't going to change my mind without explanation
And again, what about that wall was appealing to others

[Gamma Emerald]

I can vaguely see what you're saying Cloudy but I'm still not sure, like you say it feels like someone who feels unjustly pushed but I don't see that.
But I also think I can agree with the idea of leaving him to post more and seeing what happens
VOTE: MariaR though because I stand by the fact this isn't how town!Maria approaches me at all

[Gamma Emerald]

I don't know if her scum play changed but aside from the dance game we both played I don't think I've ever failed to catch MariaR as scum and we both have a good record of reading each other, and even when MariaR is scumreading me as town I don't recall her ever pushing me this single-mindedly, but I do recall she did this once a long time ago as scum.
As for myself I don't know which specific game you misread me in so I can't say too well what you should expect

[Gamma Emerald]

Scum theater ? They basically mentionned each-other and voted w/ no case at all, nothing that has been done between those 2 slots even points that they are non-scum together

If you think this is scum theatre between me and Maria then you're wrong, we've done that before and it was not like this
Also ah, got it about the game, yeah I did really try my hardest that game which made my crash and burn really fucking painful

[Gamma Emerald]

I find it very interesting so many slots it seems find me + another scummy and yet

everyone

ends up voting me

[Gamma Emerald]

i dont know if i buy that entirely but okay

like wouldnt saying "nvm realized this was a shitpost" have worked fine? why keep momentum in a direction that isnt what you want to be pushing in-thread?

I pretty much did and I recall you were there talking to me were u not

In my read through of you I didn't recall this

[Gamma Emerald]

@CC where is Nancy rn? As far as I can tell it's been RC so far

[Gamma Emerald]

Yes I missed that

[Gamma Emerald]

Good luck recovering Omochao!

[Gamma Emerald]

What Head is this

It's obviously RC
Btw I'm going to be tuning out CC until Nancy steps in again because RC does this every game with me and I don't know why

No, I don't. And you know I don't

Oh really? I KNOW you did it in You've Got Mail and you've done it plenty in other games to my memory

Hey Gamma, I wrongly initially sr you in that too until you got mechanically confitowned.

~Nancy

and yes, I’m still really sick but trying to pull my weight.

Yeah I realized I fucked up my memory of that game, thanks

[Gamma Emerald]

Maybe unwnd is town
unwnd if/when you're here can we talk, because after our last talk I figured maybe we had a disconnect

[Gamma Emerald]

Almost50 replaces thecoldheartedking effective immediately. Give this amazing guy a warm welcome!

Whatup

[Gamma Emerald]

I think that all 3 of Cloudkicker, Unwnd, and Gamma Emerald are scumbuddies. Gamma is the least confident but still feel relatively good on.

I think this is preposterous, especially the Unwnd-Cloudy link.

[Gamma Emerald]

Fyi Cloudy I'm interested in convincing you because a large part of my read on him is based on how he interacted with you. If you can articulate the tone townread and it actually sounds good I'll probably stop voting him

odd thing to say after saying this.

Not at all, I thought Cloudy was town based on how unwnd interacted with him. Would I trust someone to fact check me like that if I thought they were scum?

[Gamma Emerald]

Also, why is it more preposterous to scumread two [not you] people and less preposterous to scumread someone that you know for a fact to be town (ie, you)?

Because I can understand connecting me with the other two. My play with Cloudy I could see as theatre and my attempt to reconcile with unwnd I could see as backing out if a bus.

[Gamma Emerald]

Not at all, I thought Cloudy was town based on how unwnd interacted with him. Would I trust someone to fact check me like that if I thought they were scum?

I dunno. If you're scum with Unwnd, you'd certainly be willing to have someone talk you out of scumreading them though, like Unwnd got talked out of scumreading you.
What exactly is it about the Cloud-Unwnd interactions that you say makes Cloud town? What says Unwnd talking to town as opposed to awkward SvS?

The fact unwnd

consistently

drew focus towards Cloudy. I doubt scum does that to a buddy.

[Gamma Emerald]

Because I can understand connecting me with the other two. My play with Cloudy I could see as theatre and my attempt to reconcile with unwnd I could see as backing out if a bus.

And Unwnd randomly saying Cloud/FTC HAS to contain 1 scum, complaining about them being unreadable, and then putting responsibility for reading Cloud onto someone else can't be SvS?

I guess I could see this point but I still think the amount of focus on Cloudy isn't an SvS thing.

[Gamma Emerald]

Because I can understand connecting me with the other two. My play with Cloudy I could see as theatre and my attempt to reconcile with unwnd I could see as backing out if a bus.

And Unwnd randomly saying Cloud/FTC HAS to contain 1 scum, complaining about them being unreadable, and then putting responsibility for reading Cloud onto someone else can't be SvS?

I guess I could see this point but I still think the amount of focus on Cloudy isn't an SvS thing.

why is town!you arguing that 2 other people aren't SvS as opposed to arguing that you're town @_@

Because arguing I'm town is getting boring ^_^
But seriously I really feel that connection makes no sense. And I understand if you feel this makes me look worse, it feeds into the idea that I'm calling out part of your reads to discredit all of them, but it just makes no sense to me.

[Gamma Emerald]

A50 probably town

[Gamma Emerald]

I understand it's early but I just get the sense this is his town posting

[Gamma Emerald]

The only time I ever “fliped” as t was because your hard lead on my love who I did TR and i was leading on scum, @ d1

Who is this at

[Gamma Emerald]

Cuz he got caught and is playing it off.

You can put my check in the mail for solving the game.

Yes you dont vote ?

Incoherence x2

wat to do

What are you doing

[Gamma Emerald]

Sorry RC shaded you as scum Cloud. They do it to everyone.

Wait do you think CC is scum?

[Gamma Emerald]

Not at all, I thought Cloudy was town based on how unwnd interacted with him. Would I trust someone to fact c1heck me like that if I thought they were scum?

I dunno. If you're scum with Unwnd, you'd certainly be willing to have someone talk you out of scumreading them though, like Unwnd got talked out of scumreading you.
What exactly is it about the Cloud-Unwnd interactions that you say makes Cloud town? What says Unwnd talking to town as opposed to awkward SvS?

The fact unwnd

consistently

drew focus towards Cloudy. I doubt scum does that to a buddy.

Read CoC2. Saudade was continually hardbussing my slot and this was a freaking micro, no less. Scum distancing is so ridiculously common on this site, this should never be anyone’s first line of defence.

~Nancy

Tf is CoC and why are there two

[Gamma Emerald]

Sorry RC shaded you as scum Cloud. They do it to everyone.

Wait do you think CC is scum?

Rc have you played with Sakura before

We both have.

What does my post have to do with this

[Gamma Emerald]

Saudade always fucking does that, he did it with Okapoka in a game I repped into

[Gamma Emerald]

So..what's up? Do something. Active call out to the people wasting my time. If you're one of the people who agrees with RC but you're just sitting there nodding in agreement at your computer monitor instead of posting, post about it. Scum don't post unless they're given a reason, so you might as well be scum in my eyes if that's what you're doing. I don't mind being the example if I'm the one who's lynched. I think that would probably help at this rate, maybe a mislynch would wake some of you up. I try not to exclusively call out people because the behavior is not exclusive, the lot of you simply aren't playing. It's annoying. Wake the fuck up. Start playing or put your goddamn vote on me. Put your vote on anyone. To the people who have their vote on me? Talk about it. Have their vote on someone? Talk about it. This isn't a newbie game, or at least I'd like to believe it's not. There's no reason for this gamestate to exist. It's why I'm thinking it's manufactured and lead by scum.

If I check this thread in the morning and RC is the only person to respond to me then lol.

I've already asked you something so there is no excuse to act like this

[Gamma Emerald]

unwnd being salty because of RC, I take it.

Anyone else you want to murder, or is it just the miller?

What? Why do you mention a miller?

[Gamma Emerald]

Oh never mind, I was too focused on reading Penguin to scan the last post

[Gamma Emerald]

Penguin has contributed nothing thus far

[Gamma Emerald]

I don't think it's fair to ignore a solicitation to talk from some that isn't RC and then say "Grrr if someone not RC doesn't talk to me Ima be mad"

[Gamma Emerald]

Reaction test over. Results...positive. Moving on to real lynch target
VOTE: Primate

Alright, in that case what do you actually think of me?

[Gamma Emerald]

HOLY MARMALADE!!

I have a game

So did Zaphkael dump me? Am I still allowed around this neighborhood?

This is a set of posts no one besides Creature makes

[Gamma Emerald]

I find it very interesting so many slots it seems find me + another scummy and yet

everyone

ends up voting me

I think I've read enough of this game to tell you this: Although I do not find you particularly scummy; you sure as hell are nor as obc!town as you may think you are by now. There's nothing extremely townie about your posting so far, my friend. I -of course- wouldn't want you lynched today, but I can hardly find anything to argue you are more likely town still.

Spoiler:

Did I say I thought I was obvtown? Thanks for the response though

[Gamma Emerald]

Where's Anumi btw

[Gamma Emerald]

Lynch scum early, don't let scum drive the game, check your blindspot in the late game
PEdit: Anumi is SaskeIsMyYaoiKismesis

[Gamma Emerald]

19 is a weird size for a game

In my mind, the progression goes like this:
5 people: 1 mafia
9 people: 2 mafia
13 people: 3 mafia
17 people: 4 mafia
21 people: 5 mafia

So I think third party is pretty likely. Or maybe I'm just wrong and 19 is considered normal for 4 scum

I was thinking about the corporations and that post from Dun, what if its multiball? I am not strong setups wise but, would that make sens ?

Wait, do you think each corporation is an alignment? That would be messy

[Gamma Emerald]

isnt it confirmed not multiball via flavor?

Lynch scum early, don't let scum drive the game, check your blindspot in the late game
PEdit: Anumi is SaskeIsMyYaoiKismesis

i was hoping for a more like, relevant response rather than like a general attitude but wig

idk i want to drive the game a bit but like, i have no patience to threadsit even though this is actually my only current game

Ah
I think Wheme is scum, that's like the only really confident suspicion I have rn. I won't act like I have all the answers for this game currently.

[Gamma Emerald]

I probably wouldn't out as benevolent 3p

[Gamma Emerald]

I think Wheme is scum, that's like the only really confident suspicion I have rn.

Why?

Everything else I've second-guessed

[Gamma Emerald]

bad play most of the time

I've just been burned trying to out and town side as 3p.

Also, not voting Wheme because while I am less sure on Maria I'm still feeling like my vote should be there

[Gamma Emerald]

I think Wheme is scum, that's like the only really confident suspicion I have rn.

Why?

Everything else I've second-guessed

That doesn't really explain why it's a confident read?

His play really reminds me if how he was in Large Normal 213 (I think you were in that one)

[Gamma Emerald]

what is giving u the feeling you have to keep your vote on maria? i dont think that wagon's going to really go anywhere today thus far

Holding her accountable, I want an answer before I unvote

[Gamma Emerald]

[Gamma Emerald]

Gamma, why did you call Unwnd out a few pages ago but refuse to vote them?

Because I'm not sure what I'm calling them out on makes them scum

[Gamma Emerald]

I've just been burned trying to out and town side as 3p.

Ask this player for the best way(s) to do it. They actually suck at it, but -somehow- manage to get the job done everytime!

Hey, asking someone out the game for advice is illegal, Monkey Man. What U smokin?

Actually I have legitimately done that, for YGM no less

[Gamma Emerald]

BTW a50 is most likely scum, i will do a read list soon then I will convert myself to a useless shitslot and stay low, because obviously not everyone play the same game as I do

See, this is why I'm supporting murdering Unwnd instead of you. You are giving interesting stuff, at least.

Your Dunnstral townread is awful

Chew on that

I'm starting to doubt unwnd!scum less, this stuff he's doing is nothing but trying to hack away at the townblock

[Gamma Emerald]

Interesting!

[Gamma Emerald]

Hm thats false, we played like 3-4 games together easily

LINK THEM!

Spoiler:

I am Joey_, we played 2 Civs and other larges

This post fk'ed with me

[Gamma Emerald]

I know but you switching accounts just to prove yourself messed with my head

[Gamma Emerald]

Who's scum, Chemist?

The truth of this game is that everyone is scum

idk I’d need to read up so I’m gonna get started on random ISOs

Promising to catch up is basically your entire ISO...

Spoiler: Chemist Posts - Super Duper Promise Edition

Ego

Will catch up shortly

btw my townread on vifam and dunn dropped for going after chemist when something juicy is happening.

oh boy what'd I miss

I have to appeal to Chemist somehow to actually play the game.
Might as well try to appeal to how he wants to be seen by others. And Dunn I'm not pushing KidAmn anymore.

Not really

I’m in too many games so I stopped joining any until the amount I have dies down

So where does that leave us?

Is it fair to us to have to mislynch you if you're town because you joined a game you couldn't effort in?

Not without giving me a chance to effort

When are you going to effort?

I was planning on starting last night until I got kicked off my computer

I’m gonna start now

I’m here but behind

What’s the best place to look that I’m not caught catching up all game

I’m 15 pages behind what’s up

Who's scum, Chemist?

The truth of this game is that everyone is scum

idk I’d need to read up so I’m gonna get started on random ISOs

Also I think Chemist is like a shittier mastina because when she catches up there's at least signs of actual reading, with Chemist it's just a vague promise

[Gamma Emerald]

Oh yeah btw WhemeStar, I'M NOT HAPPY WITH YOU

WHY ARENT YOU HAPPY

YOULEFT ME BEHIND

WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT

Large Normal 213

Gamma you agree MariaR is basically outed wolf right

Me gamma and 1 other player have info that isn't widely available and MariaR has outright scumslipped. I don't want to say any more about it right now to not give away information, but the chances of MariaR being town at this point are next to non-existent.

I was bored

Gamma's actually actually scum though

VOTE: Gamma Emerald

Gamma and CK what are your thoughts about this?

It's par for the course with RC

[Gamma Emerald]

But what about the content gamma? is there any merit to it?

What do you mean when you say content?

[Gamma Emerald]

@RP I'm pretty sure that was fake.

[Gamma Emerald]

Who's scum, Chemist?

The truth of this game is that everyone is scum

idk I’d need to read up so I’m gonna get started on random ISOs

Promising to catch up is basically your entire ISO...

Spoiler: Chemist Posts - Super Duper Promise Edition

Ego

Will catch up shortly

btw my townread on vifam and dunn dropped for going after chemist when something juicy is happening.

oh boy what'd I miss

I have to appeal to Chemist somehow to actually play the game.
Might as well try to appeal to how he wants to be seen by others. And Dunn I'm not pushing KidAmn anymore.

Not really

I’m in too many games so I stopped joining any until the amount I have dies down

So where does that leave us?

Is it fair to us to have to mislynch you if you're town because you joined a game you couldn't effort in?

Not without giving me a chance to effort

When are you going to effort?

I was planning on starting last night until I got kicked off my computer

I’m gonna start now

I’m here but behind

What’s the best place to look that I’m not caught catching up all game

I’m 15 pages behind what’s up

Who's scum, Chemist?

The truth of this game is that everyone is scum

idk I’d need to read up so I’m gonna get started on random ISOs

Also I think Chemist is like a shittier mastina because when she catches up there's at least signs of actual reading, with Chemist it's just a vague promise

thanks that makes me feel great about myself

Reads would be nice

[Gamma Emerald]

Muder Muder Muder Muder Muder Muder Muder Muder Muder Muder Muder Muder

[Gamma Emerald]

Gamma you are very underwhelming this game. Do you have a read list or something i could engage you on?

How the fuck am I "underwhelming"?

[Gamma Emerald]

Gamma you are very underwhelming this game. Do you have a read list or something i could engage you on?

How the fuck am I "underwhelming"?

Vague stances & vague replies in general, nothing substantial. I guess I just expect more of you than say bambi.

Why the defensive reaction? I am saying that I want more
Why deflect me asking for a read list?

I just don't see how third most posts = underwhelming, but that makes sense what you said.

As for a read list I'd like to make that in it's own post but I'll certainly do it. Btw do you want plain or FANCY?

[Gamma Emerald]

Coming soon to a Large Theme game near you...

Gamma Emerald's Fun-tastic Name Game!

[Gamma Emerald]

...no reaction to my last post, Cloudy?
FYI to all, the show is currently under production and great steps are being taken at this rate to completion.

[Gamma Emerald]

Welcome to Gamma Emerald's Fun-tastic Name Game!

This is the part of the show where I, Gamma Emerald, present to you all the names of those present in the game with each name color-coded to give you an idea of what alignment I believe them to be! Next to these names will be descriptions of what they have done that I find noteworthy! Let the Name Game begin!

...Hold up, the producers just let me know I should add this disclaimer: until the game is proven multiball, coloration is only used as a sliding scale if town to scum!

Cloudkicker

- I do not think I have experienced the clown fest that is scum!Cloudy, but I feel they have been working to sort a bit like me, though I feel like they should mind the eyes glaring at them a little less!

MariaR

- I feel like the robotic facade she puts on is no impediment to being able to analyze her posts. As for the actual read, that is up in the air until she elaborates on her reaction test!

KidAmn

- is it just me or has he gotten less active recently? This is disturbing! I also just feel he is shady in general.

Rautherdir

- This person has slipped under the radar, so I am thinking it could be scum! They also have the dubious honor of being one of the most inactive slots currently.

Celestial Coordinates

- This slot is likely town, their play just does not work as well for scum as it does for town and it fits past experiences with town RC and CC, though I am not as confident about meta consistency for Nancy!

PenguinPower

- I have him as a town lean, while his entrance was not stellar, after I started pressing them he improved at least a little bit!

RadiantCowbells Superfan

- While I feel like this is town they are under consideration for scum that is under-the-radar!

Bambi Jay

- Their posting is almost inscrutable but I managed to find some posts that stuck out town town-aligned!

Gamma Emerald

- Your marvelous host! To wax poetic about myself, I feel like my ISO has a few spots that should truly shine as town play for anyone who cares to consider the ramifications of my actions.

Chemist1422

- Whilst he has barely posted he manages to avoid the embarrassing position of posting so little I cannot read him, because I think there are a couple towny things he has posted!

Fred The Cat

- This mystical individual seems to be a Creature alt! Assuming this I would definitely proclaim this person is town! Also I wonder how this person in particular will react to this because while they were around for the inaugural edition of this show, they were not truly present!

RedPanda

- This person seemed scummy to me early but I haven't really given his posts the time of day since then so I may just be biased against them currently!

WhemeStar

- He has not posted anything spicy that I would expect out of him if he were town, and he seems a lot like his scum self in terms of thread presence, so I am rather confident he is scum!

Vifam

- A quick perusal of the ISO gives me the sense Vifam is not really acting like town. They push weird places, and seem to stick to certain things without the genuine attachment I would expect from a townie who just can't let something go. Hopefully if there is a replacement they will do something more readable though, as this person feels quite inscrutable!

Almost50

- I feel like they are town, but that may change. However whatever read I have on Almost50 I believe everyone should probably trust as we have ended up being able to read each other more often than not!

Primate

- I get a sense this person is town, he seems to be asking questions and looking places others do not think to look! I'm aware others suspect him so I am not too confident but I think the "rumpletumple" observation is alright now that it has been explained.

Sakura Hana

- I am willing to follow RC's lead on this one for now, but I will probably try to make an independent read on D2. Also, just in case this is relevant for anyone, Sakura Hana used to go by Luna Fox!

Dunnstral

- I will be totally frank here, I have no clue how Dunn has managed to become as townread as they are! That's not to say I oppose the read, I just do not get it!

unwnd

- I'm currently having doubts about this person's scum-aligned status, but their own behavior is doing them no favors!

This time around my reads are in a greater state of flux, largely because I have no flips to anchor associations with! Nevertheless I feel this has been a fantastic edition of...

Gamma Emerald's Fun-tastic Name Game!

[Gamma Emerald]

Actually I'd have expected the amount of SRs I have to be questioned

[Gamma Emerald]

Nah null is gray, same as last time
The previous edition is also why I added the disclaimer

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Whemestar

[Gamma Emerald]

KA what are some of your reads not related to RC at all

This post is inquisitive and tries to get fresh info out of a lacking slot

Idk how I feel about Chemist

They've somehow honed in on everybody RC is focusing on though

I ISOd the two top wagons and someone at random

This explanation is logical and I feel like scum would get more defensive

Catch up yet?

nah I’d rather interact with stuff as it comes and reread when necessary

I understand this comes after my wall but I think scum would be more content to just be a bit more nebulous about catch up status

[Gamma Emerald]

Catch up yet?

nah I’d rather interact with stuff as it comes and reread when necessary

Uhh.....

Who's scum, Chemist?

The truth of this game is that everyone is scum

idk I’d need to read up so I’m gonna get started on random ISOs

Promising to catch up is basically your entire ISO...

Spoiler: Chemist Posts - Super Duper Promise Edition

Ego

Will catch up shortly

btw my townread on vifam and dunn dropped for going after chemist when something juicy is happening.

oh boy what'd I miss

I have to appeal to Chemist somehow to actually play the game.
Might as well try to appeal to how he wants to be seen by others. And Dunn I'm not pushing KidAmn anymore.

Not really

I’m in too many games so I stopped joining any until the amount I have dies down

So where does that leave us?

Is it fair to us to have to mislynch you if you're town because you joined a game you couldn't effort in?

Not without giving me a chance to effort

When are you going to effort?

I was planning on starting last night until I got kicked off my computer

I’m gonna start now

I’m here but behind

What’s the best place to look that I’m not caught catching up all game

I’m 15 pages behind what’s up

Who's scum, Chemist?

The truth of this game is that everyone is scum

idk I’d need to read up so I’m gonna get started on random ISOs

I kinda bullied Chemist into changing his approach

[Gamma Emerald]

Gamma why have you suddenly become really town for a few posts.

You mentioned I wasn't as aggressive as in YGM? That's probably why as I'm playing more actively currently.

[Gamma Emerald]

Who's scum, Chemist?

The truth of this game is that everyone is scum

idk I’d need to read up so I’m gonna get started on random ISOs

Promising to catch up is basically your entire ISO...

Spoiler: Chemist Posts - Super Duper Promise Edition

Ego

Will catch up shortly

btw my townread on vifam and dunn dropped for going after chemist when something juicy is happening.

oh boy what'd I miss

I have to appeal to Chemist somehow to actually play the game.
Might as well try to appeal to how he wants to be seen by others. And Dunn I'm not pushing KidAmn anymore.

Not really

I’m in too many games so I stopped joining any until the amount I have dies down

So where does that leave us?

Is it fair to us to have to mislynch you if you're town because you joined a game you couldn't effort in?

Not without giving me a chance to effort

When are you going to effort?

I was planning on starting last night until I got kicked off my computer

I’m gonna start now

I’m here but behind

What’s the best place to look that I’m not caught catching up all game

I’m 15 pages behind what’s up

Who's scum, Chemist?

The truth of this game is that everyone is scum

idk I’d need to read up so I’m gonna get started on random ISOs

Also I think Chemist is like a shittier mastina because when she catches up there's at least signs of actual reading, with Chemist it's just a vague promise

thanks that makes me feel great about myself

What if I just don’t bother catching up

That might help

This is what I mean when I say "I bullied Chemist into not catching up".

[Gamma Emerald]

still 1/2 cloudkicker/fred the cat, highly leaning towards cloudkicker

Why 1/2? And if you hold that stance what do you make of unwnd saying the same thing? I do think if it is 1 of the 2 I'd vote Cloudy first so I don't object to your selection.

[Gamma Emerald]

still 1/2 cloudkicker/fred the cat, highly leaning towards cloudkicker

Why 1/2? And if you hold that stance what do you make of unwnd saying the same thing? I do think if it is 1 of the 2 I'd vote Cloudy first so I don't object to your selection.

because of the way unwnd kept setting up random dichotomies between ftc/cloudkicker. it's like a rule of 3 but it's a rule of 2.

That makes sense. Thanks.

[Gamma Emerald]

still 1/2 cloudkicker/fred the cat, highly leaning towards cloudkicker
gamma emerald might not be scum at all but meh

Fuck off am I.

what does this mean

Fred isn’t scum

Gamma isn’t scum

So do you think Cloudy is scum? You don't object to the dichotomy but one of the suspects

[Gamma Emerald]

still 1/2 cloudkicker/fred the cat, highly leaning towards cloudkicker
gamma emerald might not be scum at all but meh

Fuck off am I.

what does this mean

Fred isn’t scum

Gamma isn’t scum

So do you think Cloudy is scum? You don't object to the dichotomy but one of the suspects

I was voting for him earlier!

Fair enough, I object to a Chemist lynch rn though

[Gamma Emerald]

still 1/2 cloudkicker/fred the cat, highly leaning towards cloudkicker

Why 1/2? And if you hold that stance what do you make of unwnd saying the same thing? I do think if it is 1 of the 2 I'd vote Cloudy first so I don't object to your selection.

How so? Your FTC read is that strong?

Yes.

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm not here to make friends but it would be nice to.

[Gamma Emerald]

actually i didnt even realize the sample role pm was the same thing lol

Wait did this tucker really claim the sample PM

[Gamma Emerald]

MAN I can't wait for this poorly distinguished town-block to be completely f*cking shattered when I flip Green

Do you have anything serum related?

Ah yeah but if I'm dying I'm gonna be extra spiteful and not tell you what it does

So tell me when you are alive? lmao

Well I dunno

I'm pretty much unlimited BP that has

no upkeep

and can stay alive

as long as I have serum

.

???

[Gamma Emerald]

Spoiler: Here's a sample role PM

I have to stay strong. I cannot bend. Please, do it for him.

It's been a terrible few years. I got far in life, and the sacrifices I've made for that have been great. Far too great.
Years ago, when this all started, I joined Iustitia after my husband was murdered by Simotech. I was angry, no, furious. I had that burning passion to destroy everything, EVERYTHING they built.
Slowly but surely, we got there. We broke in, we stole data, we informed all innocent people. We hacked, we destroyed, we took down everHope. We lost many people doing that, but it was worth it. Sacrifices had to be made, and they were willing to.

So was I.

''Right after we took down everHope, I wasn't happy. I wasn't satisfied. Our victory felt empty, hollow. It just wasn't enough. And that's when I proposed starting a war.

Am I the cause of all this bloodshed? Am I unreasonable for wanting them dead, wanting to see them suffer? For a very long time, I told myself I wasn't. That this was the right thing to do, that justice just needed to be served.
But every day again, I wake up crying. Sweating. I see their faces, all of them, of the people I murdered. I don't know them, but they were a person. They had a life. They loved someone, and someone loved them.

It's too late to go back now. Way too late. They have to go, for once and for all. Please, just let me find peace.

You are Thalia Coleman, sent by Iustitia, Aligned with The Rebels.

You have the following abilities:
Armoured
You may pay 5 serum to become bulletproof that night. This has no upkeep.
You win when all threats to the Rebellion have been eliminated.''

Is your BP ability different than this one?

...are you stupid?

[Gamma Emerald]

Nvm I'm the stupid one

[Gamma Emerald]

i mean, if he had any sort of ability that would make people think twice about lynching him he'd have claimed that.

The BP stuff is most likely all VTs since sample PM and VT needs something to use serum on. Why don't you think he wouldve claimed something useful as mafia? See, your same logic used to, imo, arrive at the wrong conclusion.

What kept uwnd as mefia from claiming literraly anything than VT+weak BP as the first claim in the game?

There also would need to be "mafia goon" roles

[Gamma Emerald]

I gave Camn a full bulletproof role a long time ago and everyone shit on me for it. those roles are extremely rare and all my reasons to scumread him haven't gone away.

???

[Gamma Emerald]

Alright so Three Houses comes out in about an hour so I think I'm gonna let the thread decide what to do and if I come back and u haven't hanged me I'll do some stuff

Cheers

Three Houses comes out in about an hour

oh shit

umm

i'll also be busy

Unfortunately I don't have a Switch so I'm still here.

[Gamma Emerald]

uwnd you should self for townie brownies

fk'in ew

[Gamma Emerald]

Vote: unwnd

Peace guys, enjoy my green flip

LOLLLL

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: CK

I'm thinking this too

[Gamma Emerald]

Also conf fucking biasing simple minded players, you thought i was mafia regardless of the flip so why do you even give a shit about this game? @gamma @sakura

I don't like your action around the hammer rn

[Gamma Emerald]

Also Red Panda got some explaining to do.

What do i have to explain exactly? Why do you imply that somehow the flips shades my slot in ANY way whatsoever?

You're not RedPanda but you popping off like this sure makes you trustworthy

[Gamma Emerald]

Also Red Panda got some explaining to do.

What do i have to explain exactly? Why do you imply that somehow the flips shades my slot in ANY way whatsoever?

You're not RedPanda but you popping off like this sure makes you trustworthy

Lmao what, are you saying im scummy for misreading a post that i thought was shading my slot? How is that anyway linked to redpanda? My post answer had nothing RP related

My issue is you being on edge like you are

[Gamma Emerald]

Also conf fucking biasing simple minded players, you thought i was mafia regardless of the flip so why do you even give a shit about this game? @gamma @sakura

I don't like your action around the hammer rn

Are you just talking about the vote turn or general behaviour because the vote turn was townie imho. Scum wouldn't have done something so obviously attention grabbing (unless they really need serum but that could be the case either alignment).

General behavior.

[Gamma Emerald]

Nightkill speculation is pointless. Think about it if you want but it's so wifom.

It actually can be useful but idc to fight you on it rn

[Gamma Emerald]

Nightkill speculation is pointless. Think about it if you want but it's so wifom.

It actually can be useful but idc to fight you on it rn

Maybe I phrased that wrong, I think it's useful to internalise but talking about it is generally unproductive as there's no way of proving anything.

That's a fine take

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Kidamn
I don't think your sorting is genuine

[Gamma Emerald]

Primate's posting has been textbook scumclaiming since the start of the day, I have no clue how is no one seeing how blatant he got as I do

You'll have to spell it out

[Gamma Emerald]

KidAmn talk to me because I think you still could be torn but as I said as it is there's not too much sorting/progression I can sense from you

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Primate
Cloud convinced me.

[Gamma Emerald]

I just find it odd that you’re so latched onto Primate for being coasty/opportunistic when people like

Fred the Cat, Almost50

, Chemist, Penguin,

MariaR

, And

Raur

all meet that criteria in my opinion.

my pool so far into the day is

primate/a50/FTC

, then an offset of

MariaR

depending on what she does today,

Raut

and Kidam depending of content

I guess I am 5/7, its pretty consistent don't you think ? Also I townread both Penguin and Chemist, which is not the case of the other slots mentionned

...?