This avatar is distracting. How am I supposed to do things when every time im mesmerized by whats going on in this thing?In post 17, PenguinPower wrote:Relief. I always love it when I don't have to hide knowing people.
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While gut feelings are good and all that, I cannot help but be a little suspicious of this first post, because those first two posts of penguinpower did not give me a good feeling whatsoever.In post 22, Pine wrote:
TownIn post 10, PenguinPower wrote:I'm going to need you to take a trip down to the station with me to discuss this further.
TownIn post 14, Chandra Nalaar wrote:Hello.
I'd like to get this out of the way so I don't wind up litigating it for 8 pages. I am Cephrir. The purpose of this account is for me to play differently, so if you think I'm playing differently, that may be the reason, and if I'm not, it's because maintaining this persona is taxing and I'm not very good at it. Hopefully, we can move on and not ask me a thousand questions about this.
VOTE: Marquis for being scum.
While respecting the desire to experiment, hi Cephrir!
ScumIn post 16, Marquis wrote:I think voting me is dumb-
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Someone taking this mightily seriously thoughIn post 47, Marquis wrote:Maybe I'm old and vulnerable to displays of aggression but I honestly really do not like the votes on me feels like the kind of wagon where 2 are pressuring, 1 is scum hopping on just because but idk which.-
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How can someone called Perry Pelican ever be a jerk?In post 86, Fish Monger wrote:And whoever Perry Pelican is.
That jerk made it so I cant just say PP and refer to Penguin.
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You boringIn post 99, Flavor Leaf wrote:Talk about me, go-
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You know me? I dont think I know you?In post 112, Flavor Leaf wrote:I know everyone.
Except Kagami, and depending whoever Pelican is.
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Yeah but who the fuck is RCE?In post 142, Flavor Leaf wrote:
Why would that ever be a thing that would happen?In post 139, popsofctown wrote:i think you're posting in the wrong thread?
I’ll explain.
You know if you ever play face to face mafia, scum like stutter with what they say, but they catch themselves, and then they make eye contact with another player, and that player like knows they caught them, and they know they know they can’t.
RCE gave me the look.
But I can’t 1v1 him here yet because he’s got scum advantage and there’s no real reason for him being scum.
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Im guessing this refers to their hood.In post 154, Fish Monger wrote:
im sorry, whatIn post 153, popsofctown wrote:He better not be the Pelican slot because that would be the second goddamn time he claimed my role for me in a large theme where I would have preferred to go unclaimed.
I might have some stuff I definately need to share about that and all that.
Oh so many juicy reveals. How to gate it. How to moderate it.
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Im going to shed some light and that this is false.In post 163, Perry Pelican wrote:Also, going through the ruleset etc, The alternate caffeine wincon, and JK sample pm I'm assuming there are no traditional VTs. Possibly visitor(?) And that town roles ALL have the option to perform a night action.
So I think Marquis miller claim is bs. I know your informed millers claim is bs but I somewhat think you're town for it and for both our sakes I'm nipping it in the bud.
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Holy crap. Your flavor is also a frog?In post 164, Bingle wrote:I'm a miller and in a hood with Marquis and Vecna.
No one should target any of us unless their role is crazy negative utility.
Additionally, no one should use a night action for any reason.
Marquis/Vecna, go ahead and obvtown so I can share my prospective gamesolve with you tonight.
Also, to prove a thing:
VOTE: Pelican
VOTE: Marquis
VOTE: Vecna
VOTE: Pine
I have one fewer vote per day until I'm as useless as the rest of you.
I was having some thoughts about how to feel if either of you talked a lot without actually claiming this stuff, but now im not sure if I still feel that way.
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BoringIn post 180, Bingle wrote:I'm not voting. Multivoting is bad for town outside of confirming that it exists.-
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Actually, does it get more interesting if I tell you the two of us can almost single-handedly hammer someone?In post 180, Bingle wrote:I'm not voting. Multivoting is bad for town outside of confirming that it exists.-
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I do actually agree with this slot, in that not liking pops is the new hip and happening thing.
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So, if there actually is any cop in this setup......He has to deal with 3-6 millers, 3 people that will cause him to loose the motherfucking ability, and probably plenty of other bullshit.In post 193, Perry Pelican wrote:So to continue pissing off pops, our neighborhood investigates as mafia. I assumed everyone in it would claim Miller and surprise surprise. I don't think every miller claim is a miller but it doesn't make sense to me for all the millers to stay silent and let invests run around with fake guilties because it will warp how they view the gamestate and how they approach reads. Which is dangerous.
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Maybe Marquis is being a chickenshit and also has like, a double vote, or a x5 voteIn post 171, FakeGod wrote:-
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That sounds dangerous without knowing the full extent of Marquis' power.In post 230, popsofctown wrote:ask kuribo
vecna if you're gonna do the mislynch pops d1 trope put your heart into it and vote me righ tnow
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Pretty towny response id sayIn post 246, Day One Wagon wrote:
When last time I abandoned ship - you ML'ed me, so nah, I'm goodIn post 245, Gorkington wrote:its not working its worse abandon ship while you can!!!!
its also not rvs anymore
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also town for the right type of gut response to the right postIn post 252, Gorkington wrote:just read like fake scum concern to me
i can be more detailed in lol4days when i have a computer again
but then ill probably have a lot more to catch up on/prioritize so this may be a bad promise to make :p-
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I dno, town pops was t very snappy and snarky last game. its a bad reason, but my gut wasnt feeling good.In post 261, Chandra Nalaar wrote:Ok now I'm seeing someone I know isnt stupid suspecting pops and I want to know what I'm missing-
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Interesting.......In post 266, Marquis wrote:So Bingle already outed the neighborhood - I actuallydon'tthink it's negative utility for town to leave it unclaimed or for town to target us. I would
I also don't understand why anyone would have assumed beforehand that they weren't the only miller or that if someone was in a neighborhood, it'd be a neighborhood full of millers. Or the assumption that town should have KNOWN there were multiple neighborhoods with similar roles grouped in that hood, prior to them claiming... Like. It feels like pops getting mad at people for revealing parts of the setup comes from a place of mafia knowledge/having more pieces of the puzzle from the start that town wouldn't have.
VOTE: pops to keep my mind on this.
At the same time I'm uncertain what mafia knowledge that would be unless like 2 members were in hoods themselves... well which may be the case.
Our hood didn't get night 0 talk so I don't think mafia would have either.
Day One Lynch feels like they could be defending a scumpartner or whiteknighting pops lol. Don't like it but my mind's more on pops rn.
On the town side. I'm liking Bingle as a solid townbloc pick (everything seems to come from a place of genuine town concern), not sure about Vecna.
Penguin feelings have flattened out.
Flavor Leaf I like a bit more - do think it could come from town concern but less certain that it actually does.
My first base gut of seeing my hood mech setup was "perfect to make it 2s1t" from a setup pov.
Bingle is high effort, full on mech talk. it feels good, but he always manages to feel that way as scum. hes definately in his scum rabge so far.
marquis felt pretty good though in that post. A little longwinded mayne, which im not that used to either.
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hmmm yes, this is actually a very good thing.In post 271, Day One Wagon wrote:
I find this bit weird - mafia is confirmed to have daytalk in their PTIn post 266, Marquis wrote: Our hood didn't get night 0 talk so I don't think mafia would have either.
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I like what youre implying.In post 308, kuribo wrote:What I'm getting at is that Miller can be a role or a modifier, and the reason I was asking was because it's useful to know what all these millers have been told in their neighborhood and do you understand what I'm saying or do I have to dumb it down?
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A list with 4 reads is too good for post #80?In post 319, Kagami wrote:
I think this list is almost suspiciously good for post #80, including the aspects that make almost no sense, and I would like to subscribe to marquis's newletter.In post 80, Marquis wrote: Marquis
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Not happy with me because I was suspicious of you, or not happy with me because im a scummy scumsack? Also, please elaborate if #2In post 326, popsofctown wrote:Fishmonger is would be the scummiest by a lot. I'm not happy with Vecna.-
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Ah, youre boon, ok. I remember himIn post 328, Flavor Leaf wrote:Definitely played in multiple games with Vecna. Maybe I was on Boonskiies. Maybe he has a bad memory. Idk which-
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I dno, this is weird. This is not how it is for us guys.In post 338, popsofctown wrote:
I'm informed that everyone in the neighborhood investigates as mafiaIn post 332, Perry Pelican wrote:
Nope I'm good.In post 327, popsofctown wrote:
I'll let Perry answer thisIn post 308, kuribo wrote:What I'm getting at is that Miller can be a role or a modifier, and the reason I was asking was because it's useful to know what all these millers have been told in their neighborhood and do you understand what I'm saying or do I have to dumb it down?
I'll give you an example: there's a huge difference between "everyone in this neighborhood is a Ninja" and "everyone in this neighborhood has the ninja modifier."
I have a modifier, "you investigate as mafia"
My concern is now that Perry doesn't need a modifier because he's just mafia and that made him struggle to answer your question
#fatfetched Area51/aliens nonsense:
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Feels like bad reasoning to townread a slot. That smells like exactly the type of thing scum would come up with to appear inquisitive and towny in the setup.In post 361, Bingle wrote:
I feel like his thought processes made a lot more sense last time, but I also wasn't really trying to read him, so...In post 349, Vecna wrote:I dno, town pops was t very snappy and snarky last game. its a bad reason, but my gut wasnt feeling good.
I had a pretty strong townread on pops for the 'does the nk make caffeine addictions happen question' because I had assumed it did (it's a night action, after all) and thought we could make this functionally a nightless setup with neighborhoods. Which was the essence of the no one should act at night line of reasoning.
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Really? Feels pretty ok and coherent-ish to me?In post 390, kuribo wrote:I was making a joke about the aimlessness of this town Jesus Christ you guys-
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Anyways, im just giving you guys the warning im a finnicky guy when I get some modicum of power. I guess its true what they say, those with meager power are more likely to abuse it.
Dont be surprised if I hammer shit out of the blue. Be on your toes, its possible I just suddenly feel like it and decide its good for me to appear a bunch of scummy. Or if I get too cocky and think I might just be a hero. Or just get plain bored.
Hammers at L3? Its a possibility at any time with me around.
woooo, spooky.
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...wut?In post 430, Bingle wrote:
I am treating it as NAI now, because the headspace it was coming from was not the headspace I thought it was coming from. Keep up, Vecs.In post 410, Vecna wrote:Sure, town would also wonder about it, so why a strong townread and not just treat it as completely NAI?-
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But what if im just full of belony to test how people like my eagerness for lolhammers?In post 437, Bingle wrote:Yo vecna, you wanna vote me to prove you're not full of cold air about being another me?
Not saying that is the case here, but what if?
either way, im not gonna do that.
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Top quality bubble-gum gangster right here. I like this kids style.In post 446, Fish Monger wrote:
I asked a question. I will not be intimidated for getting a headcheck on you.
Kuribo as well, in a more different type of way. It goes to figure he would love the shit out of me threatening to hammer some buckets.-
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Nah, im a firm believer of not making people claim in a closed setup.In post 453, Chandra Nalaar wrote:
Let people claim before you do thisIn post 428, Vecna wrote:Anyways, im just giving you guys the warning im a finnicky guy when I get some modicum of power. I guess its true what they say, those with meager power are more likely to abuse it.
Dont be surprised if I hammer shit out of the blue. Be on your toes, its possible I just suddenly feel like it and decide its good for me to appear a bunch of scummy. Or if I get too cocky and think I might just be a hero. Or just get plain bored.
Hammers at L3? Its a possibility at any time with me around.
woooo, spooky.
Commence the scumreads.
Other than that, I would probably do the same in your shoes, town or not.
If they scum, theyll have a credible claim of shit we dont want lynched regardless.
If they scummy, they eating a hammer. Without much warning.
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Yo bro.In post 456, kuribo wrote:In post 452, Fish Monger wrote:
The vast majority of your content is krumpin' over setup details. Things like 'can scum be a miller', 'the non-linearity of space-time, or lack of', and 'If a tree fall in the forest, do you keep the branches after you strip them'.In post 304, kuribo wrote:There's a huge difference between "Everyone in this neighborhood will investigate as mafia" and "Everyone in this neighborhood is a miller."
There are other kinds of cop besides mafia / not mafia, especially in FakeGod games.
Oh shit I'm sorry your highness lemme just go into the wealth of day one information we had to go on bythat point
Or let me expound upon the useless meta of a dozen plus people I've never heard of in my life how bout that
Oooooh wait maybe I can do a catch up post where I ask people meaningless housekeeping questions while trying to pretend they're being mean when it's pointed out how useless that is.
Oh wait you've got that last one covered already damn.
I have just decided fish monger is offlimits. He has satiated my desire for being towny enough to get a pass of being the centre of meaningless attention.
focus that rage elsewhere. Or not. I dont really care since its at least amusing. But it does make me scumread you slightly. Maybe less than slightly. It leaves a little bit of a bad taste in my mouth, as in, youre eager to show how snarky you can be to people that give you a moderate reason to do so, which ofcourse can be a usefull little cover.
I dig it and all. Its cool. But it doesnt allow me to read you.-
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In post 459, PenguinPower wrote:I fell on my head earlier today-
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hoho, ehm. That was an excellent opportunity to claim that information.In post 482, kuribo wrote:In post 481, Fish Monger wrote:
Youre scum trying to hide in your self-proclaimed and stall ass metaIn post 479, kuribo wrote:you're scum trying to provoke me into ragequitting
No bitch I'm a parity cop why the fuck do you think I had such an interest in the millers you dense fuck
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Ugh, this would all make so much sense as scum trying to face a TvT dumpsterread, but then you went and go claim partity cop of all stupid shit to randomly claim out of the big black blue sky.In post 488, kuribo wrote:In post 486, PenguinPower wrote:
https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Parity_CopIn post 483, Fish Monger wrote:1 IDK what that is
This is a bad exchange and you should both stop.
Usually I'd tell you to stay outta grown folks business but you're probably right
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I guess my weird thought still makes sense if theres a parity cop neighbourhood.In post 511, kuribo wrote:In post 510, popsofctown wrote:Kuribo should be able to accomplish similar results to same cop by targeting one of the people in the Miller neighborhood at random and also targeting someone outside of that hood.
That was exactly the plan. I had to ask the mod if millers would show up as same alignment to scum for a parity cop and FG said they would.
Please let there be a parity cop neighbourhood.
I dont ask for much mod. But there better be a mudderfucking parity cop neighborhood. Full with like, mostly scum parity cops, just to fuck us all in the big dark black hole.
Ok maybe that got a bit too graphic.
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I feel pretty low-medium offended. My iso is a pure work of prosaic art.In post 555, Kagami wrote:To save you some time, ISOs of interest are {Bingle, D1L, Fish Monger, JJD, kuribo}. Next tier is {pops, pine, gork}, maybe?
TL;DR on setup is that there are several neighborhoods consisting of 3 people each in which members are informed that every other member has a specific modifier. Nobody has mentioned flavor for any of them.
Pine, Kuribo, Fish Monger -- Ninja Neighborhood
Marquis, Bingle, Vecna -- Miller? Neighborhood and maybe also vanilla-izers? Seem to have voting quirks.
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This is a good gimmickIn post 577, Judge Joseph Dredd wrote:
I agree to the conclusion. Its never good to have thoughts. Human brain is overestimated.In post 220, Vecna wrote:I was having some thoughts about how to feel if either of you talked a lot without actually claiming this stuff, but now im not sure if I still feel that way.-
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In post 578, Judge Joseph Dredd wrote:
Is it safe to assume Marquis has the same voting powers?In post 222, Vecna wrote:
Actually, does it get more interesting if I tell you the two of us can almost single-handedly hammer someone?In post 180, Bingle wrote:I'm not voting. Multivoting is bad for town outside of confirming that it exists.In post 529, FakeGod wrote:
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this was meant "to force a TvT dumpsterread".In post 593, Vecna wrote:
Ugh, this would all make so much sense as scum trying to face a TvT dumpsterread, but then you went and go claim partity cop of all stupid shit to randomly claim out of the big black blue sky.In post 488, kuribo wrote:In post 486, PenguinPower wrote:
https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Parity_CopIn post 483, Fish Monger wrote:1 IDK what that is
This is a bad exchange and you should both stop.
Usually I'd tell you to stay outta grown folks business but you're probably right
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Why do you feel such a big need to not let Kuribo tell me that himself? Maybe im being an asshat to trigger him to see if this is an act, or he really is very triggerhappy at anyone?
You dont get a feeling of fake-rage there?
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Well, that came a bit late. Also, what type of deluded person thinks a wiki describing their mafia exploits are interesting reading?In post 613, kuribo wrote:Read my fucking wiki you idiot-
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This is such a load of horseshit.In post 615, kuribo wrote:In post 612, Vecna wrote:Maybe im being an asshat to trigger him to see if this is an act, or he really is very triggerhappy at anyone?
Carl Tuckerson tried that as scum and I blew his fucking brains out with a big shot
It's always scum trying to "trigger" someone into derailing the thread into dick measuring
And you were plenty fine doing it on your own, with very little reason.
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The way you adressed me just sounded all "let me correct this behavior" instead of "let me read into this behavior". Which on itself does not really mean a thing, but the tone that accompanied really made me feel like you already knew you were talking to town and had to talk down on the stupidity.In post 619, Chandra Nalaar wrote:
He did tell you himself.In post 612, Vecna wrote:Why do you feel such a big need to not let Kuribo tell me that himself? Maybe im being an asshat to trigger him to see if this is an act, or he really is very triggerhappy at anyone?
You dont get a feeling of fake-rage there?
Why is what im doing not scum-motivated? You seem to hate pretty much everything I say. Do you have such a strong townread on me regardless you dont even dare point a questioning finger?
I expect hes actually mad. That isnt the question with him. It's why hes mad.
I'm not sure where you got the idea that I've decided you're town, but that is certainly not the case. I'm assuming that if I bothered to do meta research I would find this viewpoint to be a consistent one from you so I'm letting you know that its garbage on a theory level. It seems pretty unlikely to me that you would be foolish enough to make up this opinion for a single scumgame.-
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In post 636, kuribo wrote:Come on "buddy" you wanted to see me get mad right
You wanted the storm
Find your shelter
One two
Kuri comin for you
Three four
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In post 628, kuribo wrote:Don't you godless cunts fucking understand
How god damn TIRING
and how FUCKING STRESSFUL it is to try and play a fucking game on this site where EVERY FUCKING TIME YOU PLAY SOME GARBAGE EATING JIZZTRAP HAS TO FUCKING PISS YOU OFF JUST FOR FUN
EVERY FUCKING GAME
FOR TWELVE FUCKING YEARS
AND YOU WONDER WHY I TELL PEOPLE NOT TO FUCKIBG START WITH ME FOR NO FUCKING REASON-
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Yeah thats the good sounding explanation I guess. Youre gonna have my attention for a while.In post 646, Chandra Nalaar wrote:
I understand where you're getting that but it's easier to talk to people like they're town when you're trying to correct them on theoryIn post 625, Vecna wrote:The way you adressed me just sounded all "let me correct this behavior" instead of "let me read into this behavior". Which on itself does not really mean a thing, but the tone that accompanied really made me feel like you already knew you were talking to town and had to talk down on the stupidity.
I find it an exercise in futility to add "if you're town" to every sentence in such situations
Also, I dont need no educating, and I dont need a gimmick account when making a conscious decision to play a lot more of a belligerent game than I normally would.-
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And Ill keep saying, the way he went off felt very much to me like he wanted to, as opposed to being provoked.In post 661, Bingle wrote:
Kuribo is a valorous visitation of a bygone vexation that stands vivified and has vowed to vanquish these venal and virulent vermin vanguarding vice and vouchsafing the violently vicious and voracious violation of volition!In post 588, Vecna wrote:focus that rage elsewhere. Or not. I dont really care since its at least amusing. But it does make me scumread you slightly. Maybe less than slightly. It leaves a little bit of a bad taste in my mouth, as in, youre eager to show how snarky you can be to people that give you a moderate reason to do so, which ofcourse can be a usefull little cover.
I'm not saying he's been most likely to blow up parliament, but his rage is probably the least fake rage on site.
Reputations can be a hell of a thing.
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