BooneyToonz XIII: To Boon or Not To Boon - [END]

[50 Judge Powers]

The thing is that the entire case on her was based on her allegedly crumbing traitor. If she is not one, then it completely falls apart. I’m not saying she couldn’t be scum but her crumb makes 0 sense unless she’s exactly, traitor.

And why can't "Traitor" be a Loyal Doctor? (Hint: This is a THEMED game. Anything goes)

[50 Judge Powers]

Almost: who's the player in this game you're paying the most attention to right now? besides AP and Dredd. :>

You should've asked me this yesterday, or waited for tomorrow. Today I'm on cruise-control, so to speak

Still not paying attention to a single slot in particular, but I sure am NOT paying attention to:

Emperor flippyNips
LoserdudeOG
Espressojet
AaronFrost
Karnage
Joan of Arc

Because it's bloody hard to pay attention to someone who isn't talking!

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Creature replaces LoserdudeOG.

Oh, boy! Now I can't even be the 2nd most poster.

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VOTE: Nips

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Nips is an OK lynch by me.

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What information is gleaned from a Flippynips lynch, exactly, if he hasn't posted much of anything at all?

A Scum flip is a Scum flip. Scum lose a member with potential to be a PR.

[50 Judge Powers]

Aaron is apparently on the list because I can't remember anything he said without having to ISO him. If that's contribution, fine. I still am not paying attention to him (which would be my bad)

[50 Judge Powers]

Clemency replaces Karnage.

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i forgot to

take it off

the last time I was on here. UNVOTE:

YEAH, BABY, YEAH!

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I would prefer to see something more than a blatant "hurr I'm not playing until d2".

Would "hurr I'm not playing until d3" do the trick? Technically, 3 > 2 so that

is

more.

[50 Judge Powers]

Rushing my son to ER, heads up in case I disappear for a bit

Here's hoping he feels better already

[50 Judge Powers]

In terms of time elapsed, I feel this day has been going forever. Are we ready to end the day yet?

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Interesting. A50, Chk, whatever is still Eon, please reveal your flavour and yes this is important.

All the world's a stage,

And all the men and women merely players:

They have their exits and their entrances;

And one man in his time plays many parts

One King to find them
One King to divide them
One King to bring them all
And in the darkness bind them

- Macbeth, i, iii

Spoiler:

I just had to go with the flow

~Long love the Queen (Except for Freddie. RIP)

[50 Judge Powers]

And, Nips appears to be *gulp* Town!

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It appears I forgot to edit 2936, but I'll leave it at that crumb.

P-edit: I have no proof/knowledge of anything. I just targeted him and I was recharged.

[50 Judge Powers]

Means Titus would have died if A50 was scum, so he’s confitown now.

Would not have died to scum if she isn't Weak. Weak is the modifier that dies to Scum. Desperate means the action fails on "not group Scum" (or whoever returns a similar result to a Cop)

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Well glad we didn’t lynch them but sucks to lose vig but R & J were playing super scummy.

No, they were not. I had them in my top 5 TRs, but I had no internet access at the time the day ended.

[50 Judge Powers]

Also, two outed hoods.....and a neighborizer?

What is the other hood? I'm only aware if Esspresso/V&M being a thing, and I only learned about it today!

[50 Judge Powers]

Drew claimed neighbors with Joan yesterday.

Thanks for the reminder!

[50 Judge Powers]

Not before I continue openly flirting with women who aren't interested.

My MOJO brings all girls to the yard
And they're like it's better than yours
Damn right it's better than yours
I can teach you but I'd have to charge

[50 Judge Powers]

otherwise chances are he's ascetic scum who kept it a secret

you never ceaze to amaze me. Yes, I'm Ascetic Scum who said explicitly that I can be targeted by non-killing actions so that I can get caught in a lie and get myself lynched for the lolz.

[50 Judge Powers]

hey Almost, are you Ascetic, untargetable, or some other third thing that prevents actions on you? :>

No.

[50 Judge Powers]

hey Almost, are you Ascetic, untargetable, or some other third thing that prevents actions on you? :>

As a matter of fact,

AP is always available

(if you know what I mean)

[50 Judge Powers]

50 needs to make a Goddamn appearance so we know who our 4 off-the-table townies are.

As far as I'm quote up (this post I'm quoting) Nip isn't cleared. I get the feeling I was targeted by an Alien (a combination of Jailkeeper & Rolestopper for those who don't know what an Alien is) and this would be the simplest explanation for why TWO players actions failed on me (assuming Creature is telling the truth). If that's the case, then I was recharged because my action didn't go through due to the JK, and not because my target was not group scum.

~The brainy one.

[50 Judge Powers]

Oh we also need to hear from Joan today after A50 pops in.

50 is an innocent monkey. I am the one who pops

cherries

all the time

~Dirty Me

[50 Judge Powers]

Okay I'm off to bed now, don't do a quick lynch or something. I'm looking forward to the solves.

Let's quick lynch someone already!

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my role effectively becomes a (semi)cop if the doctor parks on me.

I dunno if this is the case (whether in a BooneyToonz game or in general). If I was modding I would not make it work that way though, simply because the Doctor is supposed to protect you from a "an attempt on your life:m and this would be you dying of a "natural cause", so to speak.

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it's a result that pretty much clears our neighbor

3 hoods AND a neigborizer??

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Mod: Can we get a prod (official or otherwise) on A50?

Are you kidding me? It was 30 hours since the day had started!

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It appears I forgot to edit 2936, but I'll leave it at that crumb.

P-edit: I have no proof/knowledge of anything. I just targeted him and I was recharged.

Ok. I'm going with the Enchantress visiting you. You'll see why if and when you catch up.

I just NOW decided to take a look at Boon's spoilered roled. I didn't know what an Enchantress was until now.

Anyway, this still means Nips isn't confirmed by any means.

I also have a question: Can an Enchantress be Scum? Because how Boon phrased it (if your target isn't town) makes it sound like a Town utility, and I fail to see why a TOWN Enchantress would target me on N1 (unless they were confident I'd be the NK or something)

[50 Judge Powers]

Nancy, I really want Emperor today. Talk to me about my theory please.

@A50, did you actually get a message from Boon, saying you were recharged?

Well, if A50 actually got a message saying he was recharged, wouldn’t that make Flips town?

Yes, I did, and NO it wouldn't. My action didn't go through because I was "Enchanted", so I get refunded regardless.

[50 Judge Powers]

Nancy, I really want Emperor today. Talk to me about my theory please.

@A50, did you actually get a message from Boon, saying you were recharged?

Well, if A50 actually got a message saying he was recharged, wouldn’t that make Flips town?

Nancy, I really want Emperor today. Talk to me about my theory please.

@A50, did you actually get a message from Boon, saying you were recharged?

Well, if A50 actually got a message saying he was recharged, wouldn’t that make Flips town?

A50 should have got a nerf message as well.

No. My role is not "Cop-like". My MODIFIERS may give that effect, but not my ROLE.

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Well, if A50 actually got a message saying he was recharged, wouldn’t that make Flips town?

This would mean A50 and Flips share an alignment.

If A50 is a scum enchantress, then Flip could be scum as well. If the enchantress targets not town, then they commute as well.

I understand the second line, but I don't get the first one. Why would me getting recharged mean I share Nips alignment when I get recharged if my action doesn't go through FOR ANY GIVEN REASON. I thought I had made that abundantly clear on D1. If I target Town, I get recharged. If I target 3P (if there hypothtically are any) I get recharged. If I get RB'd or jailed, I get recharged. If my target is a Commuter .. I still get recharged.

[50 Judge Powers]

@A50 did you get a message explicitly stating you were recharged?

YES

[50 Judge Powers]

Like, how else would I know I was recharged??

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so Almost, you have an innocent result on Nips?

Apparently not. It looks like I was targeted by an Enchantress as Titus had suggested, so I was effectively RB'd.

[50 Judge Powers]

I’m behind here sorry

Do our butts look good to you?

~The one names after a British car

[50 Judge Powers]

We claimed but didnt claim our neighbor, but we have an innocent on our neighbor.

If you have an inno on your neighbor, why aren't you outing them already? Wouldn't be good for Town to know someone's likely Town too??

[50 Judge Powers]

Creature’s ability on you failed because thanks to Expresso death, all cop-like actions fail.

And now that you know that wasn't it, can you please consider mu proposition? I'll even switch the word "Alien" with a new magical word: ENCHANTER. Same effect though.

[50 Judge Powers]

@Nancy Bambi's right. Cops did work last night. Boon's interpretation violates NAR but we can save that for post game.

What I am finding odd is A50 jumping to Alien rather than Enchantress.

I am much more familiar with the wiki roles than with the Boon's Bank roles. I call the roles by what name(s) they are given on the wiki, and -to my knowledge- Alien was the standard version of Jailkeeper in the dark ages (prior to my existence on MS), so that's what I call that effect.

[50 Judge Powers]

We can easily prove the existence of said enchantress by lynching scum Flippynips.

I'm on board for this

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50 getting a recharged message should read different between being successful and being blocked as well.

How? it was just a "You are recharged" kind if thing (I don't even remember the exact wordings, so I can't nbe accused of quoting here, but it only told me I was recharged and nothing more)

[50 Judge Powers]

Flips flip proves everything.

Actually, it doesn't. I have thought about it more and came to the conclusion the Enchanter -if existed- would probably not have targeted me anyway, mainly because I didn't even specify my target by the end of the day. I think it may have been something else that caused your action(s) to fail on me, and I think Nips is Town here (I'll trust my own results, thank you very much).

Meanwhile, I am starting to give up on this Town tbh, so I'm sheeping the player I knew was Town from the get go:

VOTE: Aaron

[50 Judge Powers]

I read your claim as you pairing two people together, my b. I should know better that that isn't what a Neighborizer is.

Yep. Pairing two people together is usually done by a marriage official... or a pimp

~The cunning linguistic of the trio

[50 Judge Powers]

Jailkeeper was always Jailkeeper wtf

Nips is town and your theory hinges so much on WIFOM that I'm baffled you're all rallying onto this.

Type "Alien" in the wiki search and will redirect you to the Jailkeeper wiki-page. The current JK is a combination of Doc+RB, but there's a variant that also makes the target totally untagetable (i.e. they can't be investigated either) and that variant is commonly referred to as "Alien". It was Jingle (I think) who said that was the more popular version of the JK before 2013 (again, from memory, so maybe he said 2012). If you happen to disagree, take it with him.

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I totally don’t get this. How does YOU visiting HIM, make Flips enchantress?

Who the freak said Nips was the Enchantress?? I wish I could understand how your brain works for ONCE, Nancy!

The -now unlikely- theory was that I was TARGETED by an Enchantress. That would have RB'd me and ALSO made me untargetable. This means my action didn't go through and Nips was not cleared. If Nips isn't cleared then he deserves to be lynched because he's not playing the game. Nips, Joan & Aaron are all non-entities in this game (also Frank, but he's getting replaced, and Creature whom I have no idea why anyone TRs him).

But that's old news now, because -as I was trying to explain Alien vs Enchantress- it hit me that I could have also been targeted by a Town Rolestopper, for instance. If Boon made his Rolestopper (whatever he calls it) a protective (the version that makes the target TOTALLY untargetable) then that should also explain it to me. There are more possible explanations that I am not in the mood to dwell at, but the bottom line is my Alien theory is no more likely than any other scenario, so I'm rescinding it.

[50 Judge Powers]

convince me on AF

JJD targeted him last night and died for it. This is AP reporting the mishap, This is why JJD is no longer posting. RIP.

Is this convincing enough??

[50 Judge Powers]

Why are you insulting me?

Point out the insult and I'll retire from playing Mafia altogether!

[50 Judge Powers]

You want Drew? Fine..

VOTE: Dr Drew

@Scum: I won't be acting tonight, so I'm just a sitting duck for you to shoot. PLEASE DO, so that I can concentrate on.. other stuff.

P-edit: @Nancy, I said >I< don't understand how your mind works.. >I< don't understand. So, technically if I was calling anyone dumb (which I wasn't) it'd be me! Plus, you know me well enough. You know if I wanted to call someone dumb (or anything else) I can do just that in the most direct explicit form.

I have ALL kinds of moon!logicky absurd theories running through my head right now I can't say I trust ANYONE to be town in this game. You wanna know some? Have some:

1- What if chkflip is actually Scum who fakeclaimed Miller and I fell for it? Like, I knew a Miller was likely alright, but then someone did flip a Miller and it wasn't chkflip.

2- What if V&M are scum and killed their neighbor who had crumbed/claimed his role to them in the hood?

3- What if Creature's fakeclaiming,

knowing

that I have been Enchanted last night?

Do you want more or have you had enough already??

Carry on, if you please

[50 Judge Powers]

@A50, why did you target Flips in particular? I was expecting you to target Drew.

I believe I ended the day voting Nips, not Drew!

[50 Judge Powers]

if Almost did not hide behind Nips/failed the action: could have been Enchanted. explains the failures. could also be scum. could also be lying town.

Except I'm a VISITOR not a Hider

[50 Judge Powers]

Mars, how much conversation between you and Ejet happened in your hood?

What do you mean “how much”? Decent? I have no idea how you want me to answer that.

Here are some examples:

- We had 4 pages of back and forth
- We made 12 pages but half of it fluff
- He made 7 posts and I made 45

Something along those lines would be a perfect answer IMHO

[50 Judge Powers]

As for protecting her, I mostly protected her because she is the only one I know in this playerlist.

*She said, with a cunning smile on her face and her fingers crossed behind her back*

[50 Judge Powers]

A50 is the closest thing we have to a cop rn.
He LITERALLY DIES if he visits scum.

Wrong I am. I actually get proof of scum if I am healed.

Now, you're attacking the doctor which might only get one more action.

Your bloody action doesn't work ON TOWN anyway. If you were healed and I was scum (and thus still alive) then I would have been right there with you in the hood. Isn't that what you claim to have been given as a modifier???

[50 Judge Powers]

VOTE: Joan

Nor buying ANYTHING she says. I don't even know why Scum would leave the Doctor alive, if they -presumably- had both me and -allegedly- Creature blocked one way or another. So they left the Doctor alone, without even trying to block her action??

[50 Judge Powers]

Okay, you want to know what my modifier is? It's loyal. Meaning my protection only works on town. Which is where my TR originated from.

And how would you know if it worked at all, when Scum actually killed someone (so obviously didn't try to kill Titus to begin with)??

[50 Judge Powers]

i don't think Joan's claims make sense. her Titus TR coming on the start of D2 is fine, if it's intuition. but she says it's because she's loyal, and that she assumes her protection worked. assuming your loyal protection worked isn't a reason to assume your target was town. it has nothing to do with it, unless we lacked a kill last night.

Thank you!

[50 Judge Powers]

i thought Almost's final claim was Desperate. Weak was something he was talking about earlier.

my understand is Weak = die on scum/millers, and Desperate = die on scum/millers, action fails on town. distinct enough.

No. I am WEAK .. AND .. DESPERATE.. and it was explained to me in MY ROLE PM that Desperate means my action fails if my target is not a member of the Scum team (and then I asked and learned also Millers are treated as if they were members of the Scum team for all I'm concerned).

It was also explained to me in my Role PM that WEAK would make me die if I targeted a member of the Scum team (and then I asked... reread in between the brackets above)

I am also 1-shot, but my shot gets refunded whenever it fails (and then I asked and found out it fails on ANYONE not a member of the Scum team, so it would fail if my target was 3P too. Furthermore, my action fail could be due to my target being a Commuter, or having been Rolestopped, or if I'm RB'd ... etc)

@Fonz: I can't visit you tonight, as I'm taking my wife out for dinner.

[50 Judge Powers]

So desperate is usually a disloyal modifier

For the last time: Desperate =/= Disloyal. Desperate only works on a specified group (group Scum) and fails on anyone else. Disloyal works on anyone not Town.

[50 Judge Powers]

I'm stopping at the top of page 150, Internet to slow and I'm really tired. Will catch up tomorrow.

Also,

@Boon: Man your games are awesome, but you can't have Joan, Creature and Nips all in the same game and expect is to enjoy the game, can you??

P-edit: @VnM: You yourself have been arguing against the existence of an Enchantress to begin with. Now make up your mind, was I targeted by an Enchantress (in which case I'll vote Nips) or was I NOT targeted by an Enchantress (in which case I'm not moving off Joan)??

[50 Judge Powers]

I'm stopping at the top of page 150, Internet to slow and I'm really tired. Will catch up tomorrow.

Also,

@Boon: Man your games are awesome, but you can't have Joan, Creature and Nips all in the same game and expect is to enjoy the game, can you??

P-edit: @VnM: You yourself have been arguing against the existence of an Enchantress to begin with. Now make up your mind, was I targeted by an Enchantress (in which case I'll vote Nips) or was I NOT targeted by an Enchantress (in which case I'm not moving off Joan)??

I was against it until I realized Creature targeted you because if he had targeted Drew, Nips would be clear. Nips is the only one who knows Expresso, so it’s a weird kill and he’s really not doing anything if you reread his ISO.

Also, there were 3 wagons as has already been pointed out by RCE. One on flipped town - R & J, an other on mech cleared town - Haggle (Dave checked that they had no gun) and Nips.

So, not knowing the Creature target was making Titus’ theory implausible but now that I know he targeted you, which makes way more sense than Creature because YOU actually claimed D2 and Creature did not, and since he’s the only one to claim rb, it has to be one of you and Occams Razor says you, which means that no actions either on you or executed by you were possible.

So yeah, the enchantress theory makes total sense now.

I'm stopping at the top of page 150, Internet to slow and I'm really tired. Will catch up tomorrow.

Also,

@Boon: Man your games are awesome, but you can't have Joan, Creature and Nips all in the same game and expect is to enjoy the game, can you??

P-edit: @VnM: You yourself have been arguing against the existence of an Enchantress to begin with. Now make up your mind, was I targeted by an Enchantress (in which case I'll vote Nips) or was I NOT targeted by an Enchantress (in which case I'm not moving off Joan)??

I was against it until I realized Creature targeted you because if he had targeted Drew, Nips would be clear. Nips is the only one who knows Expresso, so it’s a weird kill and he’s really not doing anything if you reread his ISO.

Also, there were 3 wagons as has already been pointed out by RCE. One on flipped town - R & J, an other on mech cleared town - Haggle (Dave checked that they had no gun) and Nips.

So, not knowing the Creature target was making Titus’ theory implausible but now that I know he targeted you, which makes way more sense than Creature because YOU actually claimed D1 and Creature did not, and since he’s the only one to claim rb, it has to be one of you and Occams Razor says you, which means that no actions either on you or executed by you were possible.

So, one of you or Creature had to have been targeted because he track on you failed but he didn’t claim anything on D1 but you did, so between the two of you, who was the most likely target? So yes, this definitely does point to the existence of an enchantress, which nullifies any NA executed on you or by you, so the clear on Nips is meaningless.

So yeah, the enchantress theory makes total sense now.

If somebody cares to validate this against the endless walls of back & forth between Nancy & Titus that's be cool.

[50 Judge Powers]

I'm stopping at the top of page 150, Internet to slow and I'm really tired. Will catch up tomorrow.

Also,

@Boon: Man your games are awesome, but you can't have Joan, Creature and Nips all in the same game and expect is to enjoy the game, can you??

P-edit: @VnM: You yourself have been arguing against the existence of an Enchantress to begin with. Now make up your mind, was I targeted by an Enchantress (in which case I'll vote Nips) or was I NOT targeted by an Enchantress (in which case I'm not moving off Joan)??

I was against it until I realized Creature targeted you because if he had targeted Drew, Nips would be clear. Nips is the only one who knows Expresso, so it’s a weird kill and he’s really not doing anything if you reread his ISO.

Also, there were 3 wagons as has already been pointed out by RCE. One on flipped town - R & J, an other on mech cleared town - Haggle (Dave checked that they had no gun) and Nips.

So, not knowing the Creature target was making Titus’ theory implausible but now that I know he targeted you, which makes way more sense than Creature because YOU actually claimed D2 and Creature did not, and since he’s the only one to claim rb, it has to be one of you and Occams Razor says you, which means that no actions either on you or executed by you were possible.

So yeah, the enchantress theory makes total sense now.

I'm stopping at the top of page 150, Internet to slow and I'm really tired. Will catch up tomorrow.

Also,

@Boon: Man your games are awesome, but you can't have Joan, Creature and Nips all in the same game and expect is to enjoy the game, can you??

P-edit: @VnM: You yourself have been arguing against the existence of an Enchantress to begin with. Now make up your mind, was I targeted by an Enchantress (in which case I'll vote Nips) or was I NOT targeted by an Enchantress (in which case I'm not moving off Joan)??

I was against it until I realized Creature targeted you because if he had targeted Drew, Nips would be clear. Nips is the only one who knows Expresso, so it’s a weird kill and he’s really not doing anything if you reread his ISO.

Also, there were 3 wagons as has already been pointed out by RCE. One on flipped town - R & J, an other on mech cleared town - Haggle (Dave checked that they had no gun) and Nips.

So, not knowing the Creature target was making Titus’ theory implausible but now that I know he targeted you, which makes way more sense than Creature because YOU actually claimed D1 and Creature did not, and since he’s the only one to claim rb, it has to be one of you and Occams Razor says you, which means that no actions either on you or executed by you were possible.

So, one of you or Creature had to have been targeted because he track on you failed but he didn’t claim anything on D1 but you did, so between the two of you, who was the most likely target? So yes, this definitely does point to the existence of an enchantress, which nullifies any NA executed on you or by you, so the clear on Nips is meaningless.

So yeah, the enchantress theory makes total sense now.

If somebody cares to validate this against the endless walls of back & forth between Nancy & Titus that's be cool.

I am also not moving my vote

[50 Judge Powers]

I'm stopping at the top of page 150, Internet to slow and I'm really tired. Will catch up tomorrow.

Also,

@Boon: Man your games are awesome, but you can't have Joan, Creature and Nips all in the same game and expect is to enjoy the game, can you??

P-edit: @VnM: You yourself have been arguing against the existence of an Enchantress to begin with. Now make up your mind, was I targeted by an Enchantress (in which case I'll vote Nips) or was I NOT targeted by an Enchantress (in which case I'm not moving off Joan)??

I was against it until I realized Creature targeted you because if he had targeted Drew, Nips would be clear. Nips is the only one who knows Expresso, so it’s a weird kill and he’s really not doing anything if you reread his ISO.

Also, there were 3 wagons as has already been pointed out by RCE. One on flipped town - R & J, an other on mech cleared town - Haggle (Dave checked that they had no gun) and Nips.

So, not knowing the Creature target was making Titus’ theory implausible but now that I know he targeted you, which makes way more sense than Creature because YOU actually claimed D2 and Creature did not, and since he’s the only one to claim rb, it has to be one of you and Occams Razor says you, which means that no actions either on you or executed by you were possible.

So yeah, the enchantress theory makes total sense now.

I'm stopping at the top of page 150, Internet to slow and I'm really tired. Will catch up tomorrow.

Also,

@Boon: Man your games are awesome, but you can't have Joan, Creature and Nips all in the same game and expect is to enjoy the game, can you??

P-edit: @VnM: You yourself have been arguing against the existence of an Enchantress to begin with. Now make up your mind, was I targeted by an Enchantress (in which case I'll vote Nips) or was I NOT targeted by an Enchantress (in which case I'm not moving off Joan)??

I was against it until I realized Creature targeted you because if he had targeted Drew, Nips would be clear. Nips is the only one who knows Expresso, so it’s a weird kill and he’s really not doing anything if you reread his ISO.

Also, there were 3 wagons as has already been pointed out by RCE. One on flipped town - R & J, an other on mech cleared town - Haggle (Dave checked that they had no gun) and Nips.

So, not knowing the Creature target was making Titus’ theory implausible but now that I know he targeted you, which makes way more sense than Creature because YOU actually claimed D1 and Creature did not, and since he’s the only one to claim rb, it has to be one of you and Occams Razor says you, which means that no actions either on you or executed by you were possible.

So, one of you or Creature had to have been targeted because he track on you failed but he didn’t claim anything on D1 but you did, so between the two of you, who was the most likely target? So yes, this definitely does point to the existence of an enchantress, which nullifies any NA executed on you or by you, so the clear on Nips is meaningless.

So yeah, the enchantress theory makes total sense now.

If somebody cares to validate this against the endless walls of back & forth between Nancy & Titus that's be cool.

I am also not moving my vote

Nor am I

[50 Judge Powers]

I'm stopping at the top of page 150, Internet to slow and I'm really tired. Will catch up tomorrow.

Also,

@Boon: Man your games are awesome, but you can't have Joan, Creature and Nips all in the same game and expect is to enjoy the game, can you??

P-edit: @VnM: You yourself have been arguing against the existence of an Enchantress to begin with. Now make up your mind, was I targeted by an Enchantress (in which case I'll vote Nips) or was I NOT targeted by an Enchantress (in which case I'm not moving off Joan)??

I was against it until I realized Creature targeted you because if he had targeted Drew, Nips would be clear. Nips is the only one who knows Expresso, so it’s a weird kill and he’s really not doing anything if you reread his ISO.

Also, there were 3 wagons as has already been pointed out by RCE. One on flipped town - R & J, an other on mech cleared town - Haggle (Dave checked that they had no gun) and Nips.

So, not knowing the Creature target was making Titus’ theory implausible but now that I know he targeted you, which makes way more sense than Creature because YOU actually claimed D2 and Creature did not, and since he’s the only one to claim rb, it has to be one of you and Occams Razor says you, which means that no actions either on you or executed by you were possible.

So yeah, the enchantress theory makes total sense now.

I'm stopping at the top of page 150, Internet to slow and I'm really tired. Will catch up tomorrow.

Also,

@Boon: Man your games are awesome, but you can't have Joan, Creature and Nips all in the same game and expect is to enjoy the game, can you??

P-edit: @VnM: You yourself have been arguing against the existence of an Enchantress to begin with. Now make up your mind, was I targeted by an Enchantress (in which case I'll vote Nips) or was I NOT targeted by an Enchantress (in which case I'm not moving off Joan)??

I was against it until I realized Creature targeted you because if he had targeted Drew, Nips would be clear. Nips is the only one who knows Expresso, so it’s a weird kill and he’s really not doing anything if you reread his ISO.

Also, there were 3 wagons as has already been pointed out by RCE. One on flipped town - R & J, an other on mech cleared town - Haggle (Dave checked that they had no gun) and Nips.

So, not knowing the Creature target was making Titus’ theory implausible but now that I know he targeted you, which makes way more sense than Creature because YOU actually claimed D1 and Creature did not, and since he’s the only one to claim rb, it has to be one of you and Occams Razor says you, which means that no actions either on you or executed by you were possible.

So, one of you or Creature had to have been targeted because he track on you failed but he didn’t claim anything on D1 but you did, so between the two of you, who was the most likely target? So yes, this definitely does point to the existence of an enchantress, which nullifies any NA executed on you or by you, so the clear on Nips is meaningless.

So yeah, the enchantress theory makes total sense now.

If somebody cares to validate this against the endless walls of back & forth between Nancy & Titus that's be cool.

I am also not moving my vote

Nor am I

Not I, either

[50 Judge Powers]

Still nope.

Stop doing short comments with no quotes. AP is too stupid to recognize you are responding to the post directly above yours. Please quote the whole conversation since Titus first mentioned the Enchantress and add your 2-words comment.

P.S. If you forget to add your comment, then requote your own quote and add the 2-words comment.

[50 Judge Powers]

50 needs to make a Goddamn appearance so we know who our 4 off-the-table townies are.

As far as I'm quote up (this post I'm quoting) Nip isn't cleared. I get the feeling I was targeted by an Alien (a combination of Jailkeeper & Rolestopper for those who don't know what an Alien is) and this would be the simplest explanation for why TWO players actions failed on me (assuming Creature is telling the truth). If that's the case, then I was recharged because my action didn't go through due to the JK, and not because my target was not group scum.

~The brainy one.

Creature’s ability on you failed because thanks to Expresso death, all cop-like actions fail.

You still think this to be true?

[50 Judge Powers]

Creature’s ability on you failed because thanks to Expresso death, all cop-like actions fail.

And now that you know that wasn't it, can you please consider mu proposition? I'll even switch the word "Alien" with a new magical word: ENCHANTER. Same effect though.

So you do think there’s an enchantress? What about renegade since Titus thinks both roles exist in this setup.

And what about renegade?

[50 Judge Powers]

@Creature, did you ever say what your flavour was?

Were you still unaware Creature's ability failed on me at this point?

[50 Judge Powers]

Are you saying @Titus, that if we don’t vote Drew, we’re going to be some kind of target?

VOTE: Drew

I think Titus is crumbing something here that might involve Drew?

I have no idea what but she’s saying we’re in danger if we don’t vote him or something? I don’t understand this but it may possibly be role related.

Nothing I said about Drew was role related. All I said was if one of us was unwittingly doing scum's bidding, it will show. It's easy enough to case Drew and I'm tired of fighting and dealing with the double standard.

???

There really is no good reason to even think an enchantress exists at this point but I think because you were told you lost your neighbourizing abilities or something? I can’t remember now exactly, my guess would be on

Renegade

Spoiler:
Each night, you may give a modifier (out of a given list) out to a player.

This can be a permanent modifier

or apply to only the next action.

this one > enchantress, because you actually have evidence of this based on your abilities not working anymore, right? and the rest - ie.

Creature is explained by Expresso flip

, so no real evidence of enchantress but if you’re actually right and there actually is one, there’s no real evidence that enchantress targeted A50 anyway.

So at this point in the game, any pretty much confirmed slots should not even be considered for a lynch. When we get closer to LYLO, we can worry about WIFOM then but that’s still a long way off and unconfirmed scummy looking slots are the most logical way to go.

What made you change your stance and believe there might be an Enchantress then?

[50 Judge Powers]

Uhhh

You don't want to be seen as being against a Drew lynch?

Am I reading that correctly, Titus?

Not exactly. I want whatever gets people to wake up and lynch Flip. I am just tired of fighting. Mislynch whoever. Then I will die faster.

Titus, A50 says he has a clear on him. This is insanity.

It was insanity then. Are you hard claiming you've become insane now?

[50 Judge Powers]

At least Drew has a chance to be scum, but I'd look down on any wagon that's not Nips.

Titus, you are not thinking straight

. You’re advocating lynching a slot that a player you have a clear on, A50 - who also has a clear on - Nips is invalid.

Do you seriously not realize how ridiculous that sounds?

Did you mean straight as in direct or did you misspell strait?

[50 Judge Powers]

There really is no good reason to even think an enchantress exists at this point but I think because you were told you lost your neighbourizing abilities or something? I can’t remember now exactly, my guess would be on

Creature's ability is a known failure.
My neighborize didn't happen, which means either A50 is town or I never targeted him.
Scum targeted me to make me desperate.
A50 targeting Nips means either Nips is town, A50 is scum or A50 was interfered with.

To believe that Nips is clear you must believe

1) There is no enchantress
2) Scum roleblocked Creature over a known investigative in A50.

It makes oodles more sense that scum just sent an enchantress onto A50, regardless of his alignment.

What this is telling me is scum is likely terrified of Creature

, so maybe ISO Creature for clues on that and yes, Creature was targeted in Starcraft 1 and NK’d, so why do you think that’s an impossibility? See, yet another reason why Drew isn’t clear because Creature expressed suspicion on him I believe, as well as Nips but only one of them has a potential clear and it isn’t Drew. But Creature had to have been targeted by scum, so yeah - another reason to assume A50 wasn’t.

What made them stop within the very same dayphase??

[50 Judge Powers]

OK, I think my point has been made abundantly clear even Stevie Wonder, Ray Charles, and Helen Keller saw it! I'ma stop being silly now.

[50 Judge Powers]

"ArE yOu EvEn ReAdInG?"

One for cops, one for doctors.

What cop enabler?

ArE yOu?

Yes, chkflip. WHAT Cop Enabler??

[50 Judge Powers]

Does anyone have any questions for me?

I do! Your contributions are less than what I like it almost smells fishy. I mean, you look like you don't want to piss in anyone's pool. You're not involved in any monkey business, are you? Thinking about more puns to include in this post is driving me bananas..

[50 Judge Powers]

What does nips have to do with enchantress?

If A50 was targeted and based on Creature’s roleblock claim, everything. It didn’t really make any sense to me that Nips would be the target but Creature targeted A50 and was blocked, so enchantress had to be on one of them and A50 makes a helluva lot more sense then Creature. Prior to knowing that, Titus’ theory made no sense.

What's the direct connection to nips? Is there a claimed action I'm missing or something?

50 targeted Nips and was recharged. So either Nips is town or A50 was blocked.

BP

I want to do a Titus and add "Or A50 is Scum, but you didn't actually get on my nerves this game, so I am not going to.

[50 Judge Powers]

That quote is mangled, it's "may also make it so they die if they can target successfully".
It's important to note that this is an option not a definition of the modifier, so only the people who actually get the modifier will get directly informed of which variant is in use this game. I have no reason to doubt the death on success variant is in use btw.

Do you think the variant would be different for different people in the same game? Because with Titus's explanation of the modifier coupled with this confusion around A50, I kinda wanna lynch him.

BP

I spoke too fast! GO BLOODY READ THE FREAKING MODIFIER DESCRIPTION IN BOON'S BANK. I DON'T FUCKING CARE HOW IT WAS EXPLAINED TO SOMEONE ELSE. MINE WAS IN MY ROLE PM, AND I FUCKING CLAIMED IT FIRST, BEFORE ANY NIGHT ACTION/RESULTS.

[50 Judge Powers]

I have no reason to believe in the boogeyman existing.

How about the toothfairy?

[50 Judge Powers]

Little miffed nobody here answered me if it makes sense for town to get both a Cop-like enabler and a Doctor enabler on the same side. That's almost Beloved Princess levels of swing without actually breaking the Boon Rules.

Theoretically speaking, it's possible.

However, having Elsa Jay and Bambi Jay play in the same game (as different slots) is contraBOONed I believe.

[50 Judge Powers]

What does nips have to do with enchantress?

If A50 was targeted and based on Creature’s roleblock claim, everything. It didn’t really make any sense to me that Nips would be the target but Creature targeted A50 and was blocked, so enchantress had to be on one of them and A50 makes a helluva lot more sense then Creature. Prior to knowing that, Titus’ theory made no sense.

What's the direct connection to nips? Is there a claimed action I'm missing or something?

50 targeted Nips and was recharged. So either Nips is town or A50 was blocked.

BP

One of Creature/A50 had to be for his reults to fail and Creature didn’t claim anything before D2 but A50 did D1, so it obviously makes way more sense that he was the one targeted not Creature, which would mean Titus’ actions would have also failed, at the very least. Renegade doesn’t have to exist because any “coplike” actions - which could include any actions involving a desperate modifier, so enchantress absolutely could exist. Renegade doesn’t have to exist because of desperate and cop -

LIKE

abilities permanently nullified. so renegade isn’t proven or necessary because of desperate, so chk is wrong about that and Titus, likely right.

@BP if you give me shit for something when you haven’t read all the posts where I’ve explained things multiple tiles, don’t expect me to answer you.

Nancy, I'm not ignoring your posts, you're just going back on things you've already said and it's completely unpredictable. Like right now, you are using Espresso's flip to talk about the Renegade role when that is not why Chkflip thinks Renegade is in the game. He thinks Renegade is in the game because Titus claimed that she had the desperate modifier attached to her at the beginning of N1, and Renegade is the role that can attach modifiers to people.

Look, I'm reading the fucking game. I'm reading all your damn posts and that's the source of my frustration, because you're very vocal, but you're getting some of the mechanical stuff wrong. Like you did earlier when you didnt get that folks were saying Nips isnt cleared because of the likely roleblock. Now you get that, and I'm following that you get that, but I form reads by trying to follow people's logic and whether they have any. You have been difficult to read because your logic isnt really making sense to me. And its moving at times that may be convenient. That tends to be one of the ways that I form reads, so I get that your mind changed, but it seemed to change based on timing more than a natural understanding, because there was a long discussion about this earlier, but now that a lynch seems to be stalled and you didnt get your preferred lynch of Drew, now you understand that Nips isnt clear.

So please dont say I'm not reading your posts. I'm reading all of them. But you dont get to act like when your mind changed the old posts stopped existing. You pulled that shit earlier today when you had asked Joan to confirm whether there was something in her role that would confirm an enabler then acted shocked when I referred to that. I assure you, I'm reading all your damn posts. So if I ask you a question, it's for a reason, it's not because I'm ignoring you.

BP

So you admit to not having read her posts, right?

[50 Judge Powers]

@A50, Titus and Chemist, did you get a message from the mod that your ability no longer worked?

You're obviously

not reading MY posts

then. I DID NOT BLOODY GET ANY FUCKING MESSAGE TO THAT EFFECT. I got MY BLOODY 1-SHOT RECHARGED. That is the ONLY PM I got.

[50 Judge Powers]

My ability works. I explicitly asked the mod during the confusion. Modifiers do NOT get disabled.

You are wrong. Boon is wrong. Chara is wrong.

P.S. Don't mind me.

[50 Judge Powers]

That's redundant if the modifier itself is weak.

The modifier is NOT weak "in itself". The mod "could" choose to make it so. Even this phrasing is vague, as it could also be interpreted as "the mod could choose to couple that with a Weak modifier" just the same.

My point is I claimed it on D1, gave you the details from my Role PM, so if that was in anyway pre-planned or faked then it still is accurate because I would have bloody checked with Boon beforehand.. long long before I claimed.

Even assuming the worst (not the duck though); let's say I tailored a fake claim on my own without getting back to Boon. Now I don't even know the names of the roles/modifiers Boon uses. so I must've went to the Bank (Boon's, not my local bank) and checked the definitions of roles/modifiers I intended to use to fake claim, and if I did then I must've seen the definition you are talking about, and if I did see it I must've asked Boon (would have had to) to clarify that part for me, the same way I asked him about how my modifiers worked exactly because I NOTICED a different phrasing under Recharged vs the one used under Desperate (The "action will fail" vs "action not going through" bit I already talked about when I was explaining why I believed there had to be a Miller role in this game back on D1).

[50 Judge Powers]

chkflip is my favourite player in this game

Amen to that (for real). <3

[50 Judge Powers]

my guesses are Almost misunderstanding

Boon: Can I quote my Role PM and get modkilled for it, but receive no site-wide ban??

Alternatively, we could lynch me and see how my Role PM is phrased exactly, the lynch Titus next (my bet is she would also be a mislynch) and you all can live happily ever after.

[50 Judge Powers]

Almost: i enjoy both of your vote options (Joan & Nips). was wondering if you had any read on Drew? i know you're still catching up.

I don't in this game, but I'll have you (and him) know I liked him a lot in our first game together (I was Scum and he was Town), but he has failed to hit that height in any game we've played together since.

[50 Judge Powers]

50, what happened my dude? You get busy or something?

I mean, my honest full response will potentially piss off at least 4 slots, maybe more. So -instead- I'll be honest but won't list all the reasons: TM. 'nough said.

[50 Judge Powers]

Actually wait a second. Monkey Hippie Judge Man, why aren't you defending the one clear you got and are going along with it, or atleast just ignoring it?

Fucking lead us again.

Keep on reading. I am pushing Joan now. She made quite a few inconsistent declarations that make no sense what-so-ever.

[50 Judge Powers]

If it wasn't obvious by now, I'm hard town-reading 50. I've no reason to believe that he full outs as scum from a page 5 Miller claim. That's just so fucking weird and out of the realm of possibility even for him. Or RCE. Or even Flavor Leaf. WHO WOULD DO THAT!?

I feel honoured to be mentioned alongside these two. It feels like I've just received a Grammy/Oscar nominaton.

[50 Judge Powers]

A50 isn't hard town if I was blocked.

That's true. You know chkflip's better than he does. That makes sense.

HIS READ on me is hard town. He even posted WHY, and it had nothing to do with my might action. What do YOU have to do with HIS read on ME? Your read is yours, anyone else reads are THEIRS.

@chkflp: ^One of them annoying things why I am actively avoiding the game. I think if you pay attention to what IO have been saying/posting today (and yesterday) you can easily spot the other 4 "things" that are bugging me in this game, aside from the distraction of TM.

[50 Judge Powers]

Why don’t you two just get a room already?

What, and miss your couple of hundred alt slips, your wall quotes and you being obtuse about most anything and everything, not to mention you insulting other people in ways that are much more explicit than the ones you claim to be insults directed at you?? NEVER!

[50 Judge Powers]

But, why is the M missing from massive and the F missing from funny?

That's the MF question.

[50 Judge Powers]

eople ont eally hink hat ropping he irst etter f ords s cummy

TOUCHDOWN! dave is now 5-0 alead

[50 Judge Powers]

This is getting to the point where I just want to replace out, like, nobody fucking cares anymore.

Same here.. except.. I do NOT replace out of games I willingly joined.

[50 Judge Powers]

Rolestopper, for the last fucking time.

So, then Titus didn’t clear him and why couldn’t there have been a roleblocker as well? Why does scum rolestop A50 only but not roleblock him?

Simplest explanation: Because if there is a Town Tracker they could have seen whom I was targeting, and if I died on N1 the Tracker would have claimed the guilty on my target. The same answer -but a slight edit needed- could explain why they wouldn't RB me. If there is a Town Watcher then they would have seem someone targeting me, and -again- it would have looked suspicious at some later point in the game (when we gave flips and/or massclaim).

More questions: Why didn't they just kill me? Answer: They may have suspected I crumbed my target and couldn't find it themselves, but someone else may, and if my target was Scum then that would have been a "false guilty" on "legit Scum" (i.e. caught for the wrong reasons). They also may (or may have not) wanted to kill EJ (Hint: ELSA JAY IS NOT IN THIS GAME) over me anyway.

Why am I assuming Scum have a RB, Rolestopper, or any other role(s) at all? Answer: I am not. I am responding to what has been asked by someone else, using THEIR assumed roles.

Why don't Polar Bears eat Penguins? Polar Bears live in the North Pole, but not the South Pole (Arctica but not Antarctica), while Penguins live in the South Pole but not the North Pole. The two probably have never even seen each other F-2-F (although there are rumours they have been keeping in touch via Email. I'd have to ask PP about that).

Why did the chicken cross .. STAAAHP! I don't have a friggin' idea and I don't give a rat's fart.

[50 Judge Powers]

You can't roleblock someone that's rolestopped.

I didn't get that the question was why didn't they RB me

in addition to

having Rolestopped me, but rather as an alternate proposition to having been Rolestopped. MY BAD!

Come to think of it, why couldn't Creature have RB'd me? Why isn't Joan a RB faking Doc? What do you call a baby monkey? (That last one is a legit question. Is there a term relating to baby monkies as is kitten to a baby cat or cub to a baby dog?)

[50 Judge Powers]

Nancy,

Of all the people here, you believe my vig claim?

What Vig claim?

[50 Judge Powers]

Also there is evidence renegade exists unless you think Titus and I are scum together fabricating it.

As I have pointed out before, you are confirmed Scum to every player on MS in every game you play, and your avi is proof enough.

[50 Judge Powers]

The devil is in the details

False. he is currently sitting comfortably in my head, sipping on tea and giving me ideas.

[50 Judge Powers]

Do you think Boon is trolling us with the modifiers?

NOTHING is outside of Boon's "scum range", EVEN if he is the mod!

[50 Judge Powers]

Lynching non CC’d doc, even dumber than enabler but both are bad imo.

For someone who claims to be sensitive to the slightest hint of them not thinking straight I find this post to be overly offensive!

[50 Judge Powers]

If the doctor is town, and we had what amounted to our Cop enabler flip town, then a doctor enabler would be.... *fake gasp* scum!

Am I the only one who sees this?

FTR. I was Scum with Boon (well, his identical twin named FL) of late, and the team had both a Roleblocker Enabler AND a Tracker Enabler (both the RB & the Tracker were obviously Town). DO NOT OUTGUESS THE BOON! (Chances are you'll end up wrong 11 times out of 10, same as if you believe a Bambi claim!)

Pretentious

[50 Judge Powers]

Powers, convince the Monkey and Judge to follow me on this.

I got a feeling in my bones, man. I must do this.

That can't be done, unfortunately. If one of us is going to be eying your behind it most probably is going to be ME.

[50 Judge Powers]

doesn't know what a mechanic is

It's a

Jason Statham

hitman kind of role that appeared in 3 movies so far.

[50 Judge Powers]

If it's not too much to pry, where did you go during those days? You were still apart of the hydra then too.

i'd answer but it'd probably be awkwardly self-deprecating and make everyone uncomfortable

Let me guess. You were serving your sentence for contempt of a judge??

-JJD

[50 Judge Powers]

He has never acted like this much of a

douche

to me ever

One more insult from you and U'm going to make you regret your mom ever met your dad in the first place, let alone give birth to you. Knock it off already.

[50 Judge Powers]

Why does it have to be scum? I see merit in a town! rolestopper targeting A50. Also you're assuming scum would have both abilities.

Also there is evidence renegade exists unless you think Titus and I are scum together fabricating it.

How are you implicated in the fabrication?

BP

Scum assigned Desperate at start of night 1.

I think there is a little reaching going on here.
You received a desperate (if we believe that) before your action took place. Whether it was beginning of night or not is another question.
But I can't find a scum motivation for claiming this and specifically claiming something that would cement A50 unless A50 is also scum.
Which means you're probably town but possibly misguided about what happened.

She is CLEARLY saying, “desperate” wasn’t in her role pm. I think Titus knows that her role has to have been changed. Titus is not terrible at understanding game mechanics, so I don’t understand why you are doubting this. Didn’t the fact that Expresso kill, eliminate cop-like abilities make you realize it’s very likely possible, if not actually probable?

I'd buy it, I was made Ascetic last night.

Someone giving out modifiers sounds a lot like Profiis inventor claim in LNT.

Either A50 assigns desperate modifier to visitors or I was blocked too.

[50 Judge Powers]

Almost50, even if Nancy's parents were alive, threatening someone like that isn't cool.

No disrespect, but would you care to stay out of this, if you please? You're fine being told to fuck off, so that's your prerogative. You're ok being called stupid and insane, and -again- that's your choice. I am NOT fine dealing with all that shit, and I'm not going to shut up about it.

[50 Judge Powers]

50, please just move on from it. Disengage.

Affirmative.

[50 Judge Powers]

Actions that fail because of a modifier or things like when the target is ascetic are not refunded when they fail.

Dear Mighty God have mercy on us all, for NOBODY is reading!

I already explained I do get recharged if my action "didn't go through".

This is why I asked what the difference between "not going through" and "action fail" was. It was explained to me that

if my action fails due to my modifier OR if I was blocked/jailed or targeted a Commuter/Hider/Ascetic I get recharged.

[50 Judge Powers]

If it works like you described then it's being handled incorrectly. That's more of a postgame discussion than now since I can't overrule the mod, but it's wrong.

dave, when did you become like this? You were always one of the best in mechanics discussions! This is a THEMED game. How a role/modifier works is how the MOD (not the wiki) says it works. My modifier has a definition in Boon's Bank.

I mean, check this out:

I would have tried to visit Awestfie in an attempt to to test for scum. I would have been recharged, right?

I think my death might help. But I should have fought harder. I have bad habits from RL mafia. We claim a lot of weird shit.

Yep.

Action wouldn’t have gone through

on her.

However,

she did get a Sticky Fruit

, so

it wouldn’t have gone through either way

.

It’s the Critters game. It’s not mafia, so it’s not bad play there, haha.

I think I brought up that it was going to teach you bad habits, but I didn’t think anything of it until this game.

Like, I get why you did everything you did.

See? Action not going through because of the target, OR because of the Sticky Fruit are the same as far as Recharged goes.

I probably could come up with more, but the bottom line is the mod defines how his own roles and modifiers work in Themed Games.

[50 Judge Powers]

@dave: I will ask a question that has been brought up like umpteen times before.. why Enchantress over Rolestopper? If I was targeted by a Rolstopper (a single action on the same person who everyone knew had claimed to have a night action) it explains why 2 players actions failed on me too.

So, until I see evidence this Enchantress role does exist in this setup I am not going to vote my own "soft-inno" (I say "soft" because I

am

giving room to having been blocked).

As for Drew; I'm not feeling it in my bones, Like, let's suppose you're right and Nips is Scum. That would mean Drew is his counterwagon, and it spews Drew Town.

So, the ONLY thing I can deduce is that Nips & Drew are highly unlikely to be Scum together, and even less likely to be both Town.

If they were both Town then Scum would have lynched one already, and used the flip to drive a mislynch on the other tomorrow.

If they were both Scum then I'll be damned and this Town knows how to Scum hunt (That's less likely than a stray cat learning to operate a space shuttle IMHO)

So, I'd lynch the one slot that isn't even in the game (lynching her is equivalent to NL), who claimed to have protected someone THEN had a TR on them after. The one slot that claimed that TR was from a successful action when she also admitted she didn't know if her action had succeeded. The ones lot that has claimed to have pocked her target because "Titus is the only one she knows in this list" when at least 2 thirds of the players list are familiar not only with this account, but the majority of her alts.

the Nips-Drew situation can be resolved with night action. For instance, Titus believes Drew to be Town, so she can target him tonight to verify it (Or not. I'm not telling Titus what to do here. Just giving an example of how we can resolve the situation at hand)

[50 Judge Powers]

Is Joan, Jeanne?

I don’t want to start outing anyone’s alts unless it serves some game-related purpose, like mentioning Nico earlier.

It would help me understand as I have tried to help Jeanne improve multiple times over the years with multiple hydras. Her picking me to heal because she knows me, as opposed to just playing with me, makes a lot of sense.

Yes, she is Jeanne. Also Nico Robin. Also... NVM. But it's not "outing an alt" when the alt is already outed. It's like saying FL is also Boon who is also Rick Dalton...

[50 Judge Powers]

Or that RC is also Titus

[50 Judge Powers]

So, the ONLY thing I can deduce is that Nips & Drew are highly unlikely to be Scum together, and even less likely to be both Town.

If they were both Town then Scum would have lynched one already, and used the flip to drive a mislynch on the other tomorrow. [\quote]

This seems extremely flawed logic.

The "Drew is a counterwagon" argument has a chronology problem. Drew got to seven votes today when Nips was only at two. More reasonable to describe Nips as the Drew CW.

*Sigh* What I'm saying is one is the counterwagon of the other. What I'm saying is I dunno which of them is Town and which is Scum, so what I'm saying is I won't vote either today.

[50 Judge Powers]

I didn't really think about it earlier tbf. With so many cops why didn't the backup wait for more flips and just take the first fucking role?

VOTE: Doctor Drew

Smells like bullshit.

In my experience, the UB does NOT get to choose whom to backup. They just inherit the first PR that flips.

So, UB takes the 1st PR that flips

of their own alignment

>> UB takes the 1st PR that flips of ANY alignment >> UB gets to choose between flipped roles.

In fact, I have only seen the UB choose only once (and I'll stop it at that for now)

[50 Judge Powers]

Also I'm just going to throw out there that mafia absolutely must have safe fake claims at this point.

That's not how Boon usually does. I've been Scum in at least two of his games and he provided no fake claims in them.

[50 Judge Powers]

I love that two people reiterated what was already acknowledged by me from Frost.

I still don't fucking care.

Many (most?) of us respond to posts in the order they are reading them as they catch up. If I try to read all new posts before I respond to anything I'd either forget what I had intended to respond to or will have nothing to respond to because someone else already said what I wanted to say.

[50 Judge Powers]

Oh, shit! So he did claim eventually! I was surprised (to the limit of being shocked, actually) the more comprehensive players didn't picj up on what he was hinting all along. I mean, he was confident enough you just had to think about it before you asked him WHY he was so confident.

[50 Judge Powers]

normally a Doctor is always town.

Actually. Scum Doctor is a much more common role than you think. Also, there is a TOWN VIG in play, so Scum

have to

have a protective of some sort (be that a Doctor, a Jailer, a Roleblocker, a BP vest/role.. etc)

[50 Judge Powers]

Town don’t fakeclaim Miller. That’s pl worthy.

Don't let the Jay siblings see this one (Jay siblings as in Bambi & Elsa)

[50 Judge Powers]

If AF really is a doc enabler and there was/is a vig present then scum could (also?) have a doc.

A mafia doc would be immune to gunsmith which reinforces the idea that there could be one

.

THANK YOU.

[50 Judge Powers]

50 Judge Powers - Ascetic miller

Remind me to have you review my next setup (whenever that is coming). It'd be amusing to include an Ascetic (someone who

can't be investigated

by definition) with a Miller modifier (specifically designed to return a false guilty to

an investigative

). I may also toss in BP Commuter and/or a PGO Lightning Rod for the fun of it!

Note: WOW!

PGO Lightning Rod

in an

OVERKILL

game! Now WHY didn't I think of THAT before?

[50 Judge Powers]

i did laugh at ascetic godfather.

I didn't even get that far down.

[50 Judge Powers]

(i'm going to be so embarrassed if she's scum.)

You should feel embarrassed already for calling someone other than me Adorable.

Actually, I find the following quote to be twice as offending, come to think of it.

Adorable is actually attractive to me.

[50 Judge Powers]

VOTE: Adorable

Better than Joan.

I happen to disagree. If Chara thinks Adorable is attractive then I will fight tooth an nail to keep them entertained.

~AP

[50 Judge Powers]

Hold the freak on! I have just received a PM from Boon and I'm requesting more info before I announce my updated info. (I am as confused as hell right now, so try to be patient for a few more minutes.. hopefully)

[50 Judge Powers]

OK, NVM. I'll take the blame for this one. Carry on.

[50 Judge Powers]

Hold the freak on! I have just received a PM from Boon and I'm requesting more info before I announce my updated info. (I am as confused as hell right now, so try to be patient for a few more minutes.. hopefully)

Let me guess: You actually didn't get refunded and now we suddenly all jump on Nips.

THAT is what has been confusing me. I was not recharged, yes, but then I didn't die.

Weak: Does from targeting Scum
Desperate: Action foes through if they "come across" as Scum

So Nips is a Miller is the only explanation I could think of. My action did go through (because he does return a guilty to a Cop), but I didn't die (because he is not actually Scum). I mean, Boon did restate those two Modifiers definitions in the update. I didn't know targeting a Miller would NOT kill me. In fact I thought

it would

.

[50 Judge Powers]

And now he would not explain any further, so if anyone has a better explanation be my guest.

[50 Judge Powers]

@Mod: Would you be kind enough as to post:
1- The definition of the WEAK modifier
2- The definition of the Desperate modifier
3- The answer to this question: Would a DOCTOR PROTECTION save a WEAK Role from dying die to visiting Scum?

I don't think this has anything to do with my claim or my claimed action. I could still be lying. It just explains how the mechanics in general work in this game. THANK YOU

[50 Judge Powers]

Or someone Rolestopped/aliened/enchanted Nips or the like, thereby wasting your shot and making it fail a different way, making it no longer qualify for a recharge?

Rolestopper BLOCKS actions targeting their target, and so does Enchantress. If I'm blocked I get recharged.

[50 Judge Powers]

Doctor doesn’t save weak from dying.

PERFECT! Then me not dying = Nips is TOWN. he may have been "framed" on N1. I don't care. The fact I didn't die means he has

my alignment

.

[50 Judge Powers]

@Adorable: I was ONE-SHOT

[50 Judge Powers]

If you get roleblocked you get your charge vack, and only then?

No. If my action "doesn't go through" I get recharged. My action doesn't go through if I was Roleblocked, or if my target is Ascetic, or if they do NOT return a guilty to a Cop. My action ONLY goes through if my target

returns a guilty to an investigative

.

However, I die ONLY if my target IS Scum (Millers do NOT kill me)

[50 Judge Powers]

Then why didn't Nips claim Miller day one as a CC to Chk?

Why didn't Espressojet??

Like you have proof enough in this very game that a flipped Town Miller didn't claim it nor did he CC when chkflip fake-claimed it. Not everyone thinks the way you do nor do they act the way you do (GOD! That's a SCARY THOUGHT to have move of you.. like Bambi clones.. the Jay family!)

[50 Judge Powers]

He just said he gets his charge back if his action fails, Dave. He wouldn't say this if he didn't actually believe it.

Boon

explicitly

told me this, He said I'd get recharged if I was blocked, if I targeted an Ascetic, or if my target does not come across as Scum. He literally mentioned "blocked" in his explanation.

[50 Judge Powers]

Okay, now that your done with Nips while he's Appearantly a Miller, are you going to jump on my wagon, Adorable, Drew, or some random fourth choice?

I wanna see where your at currently.

Nothing has changed for me. My vote is stuck on Joan until she is gone. I know I said Drew vs Nips is very likely TvS, and I stand by it, but I won't tolerate the "join the game to troll or lurk" behaviour anymore. I will always lynch such slots over confirmed Scum if I must. This site needs to improve on the quality of players, and lurking/trolling is not helping. I mean, there are lurkers who end up playing the game, and there are trolls who mix it with some game playing. I don't mind those (You are one of my favourite trolls, but you also talk about the game while making jokes, so it's fun). You feel me?

[50 Judge Powers]

You're a desperate visitor.
You targeted nips, used a shot, and didn't die.
Is that the complete information?

Yes, but I also have a

Weak modifier

. It's nothing I interpreted. It's in my Role PM. Both in the body and the title of my role.

[50 Judge Powers]

Not totally sold on him being Scum, and knowing Boons this games has so much fuckery we've only seen the tip of the iceberg.. but OK

VOTE: Drew

[50 Judge Powers]

Would you describe Chk as someone who doesn't understand mafia and it's roles and such?

I think he doesn't know about the

standard

version of the role. I can relate to that myself, as I have never even considered tailoring a Normal setup. I do as I please because I only design Themed games.

[50 Judge Powers]

FTR, I just talked to a dead ant in the kitchen. I told her my role in details ONCE, and I told her what had happened and how I interpreted it ONCE, and she fully comprehended what I said from the very first time. I was astonished, not because it was an ant, but because she was dead.

So, the ant suggested that I should get myself lynched since I am effectively a VT now anyway, and she hoped that if that happened people would start to decipher the hieroglyphic script I've been typing all game for what it is. I told her I wasn't as optimistic, but I liked the idea of being lynched all the same.

Serious offer, but only for a limited time. Seize it while it lasts.

[50 Judge Powers]

It's 9:50 am my time, so I had better go catch some sleep. See you in the evening. folks. Till then, don't talk to dead ants. People will think you're crazy (and will probably miss the point anyway)

[50 Judge Powers]

We can either just ask Boon what Variant of Weak he uses or look up his previous game with a Weak guy in it to see which one it is.

I say go with the former.

Feel free to ask him yourself, but -according to his latest PM- I should/would have died targeting anyone "not of my own alignment"

[50 Judge Powers]

So, I will reiterate for the very last time:

- My action did go through (proof: I didn't get recharged)
- It thus follows my target "comes across as Scum aligned", which means either Scum or a Miller
- However, I didn't die, and I die only if my target is not of my own alignment (i.e. if they are not town. NOT "come across" but their

actual

alignment)

So, Nips is town-aligned, but "would have come across" as scum to a cop (i.e. would have returned a false guilty)

Now all this is MY role. I don't have a say on what Titus' role does or how it works. That's for her to discuss with the mod if she likes.

THANK YOU for your time and efforts.

[50 Judge Powers]

Oh, and a reminder that Joan needs to eat rope. I am being a team player and voting whom you want me to, but in my heart Joan is my much preferred lynch by far. As I said before, it's the equivalent of a No Lynch, so we keep the players that can potentially be sorted out in time., and remove someone who isn't contributing AT ALL and is voting RANDOMLY everytime they check in (which is roughly every 48-72 hours)

[50 Judge Powers]

It's NOT a Town Doc. It is NOT. It's either a Scum Doc or Scum faking Doc (leaning the latter if Aaron is also Scum faking)

[50 Judge Powers]

Mate, I am already voting Drew. Reread 5379 if you must. I don't think I can do much more than what I already have.

[50 Judge Powers]

What's this about me switching my vote randomly? My vote has been on Drew since forever.

I was referring to the former two votes:

VOTE: chkflip

VOTE: Bambi Jay

And if anyone says 'but their role makes them town', I will smack that person through the screen.

VOTE: Drew

I am back.

Also, since we're at it.. this is one of the main reasons why I don't think Drew is flipping red here

[50 Judge Powers]

Are you suppose to?

I don't think someone who has seen miller claim first post in several games would ask this question.

if Nips is actually a miller then...
i'm going to laugh because it's very funny, and then go and cry about it.

Let's take this one step at a time:

1- Do you think I still have any realistic chance of being Scum? If the answer is YES, say no more. If the answer is no..

2- Do you think I would still misunderstand what Boon's been saying to me after all those PMs? If the answer is YES, say no more. If the answer is no..

3- Do you have any other explanation for me being alive yet my shot not being recharged here? If the answer is YES, tell us what it is. If the answer is no.. you have no other option but to believe he is indeed a Miller.

[50 Judge Powers]

Joan is also the only way I can cop safely soooo

Doctor doesn’t save weak from dying.

Spoiler:

[50 Judge Powers]

Damnit Joan lurk out and get replaced already.

Never gonna give my character up
Never gonna let my character down

Shakespeare wrote about Rick Astley???

[50 Judge Powers]

Wow town really picked a perfect storm of night actions to fuck ourselves over.

A50 somehow became a non-mechanical lightning rod

Goes to show how popular we are nowadays (I also suspect it was my MOJO, but I see also MEN got attracted, so I'm not as sure)

~The Naughty One, Baby!

[50 Judge Powers]

Can't quite finger it right.

Use two fingers not just one.

Spoiler:

[50 Judge Powers]

Why don't we all just claim and announce all our targets?

My target was to become independently rich before I got to 40. I managed neither the independency nor the rich parts, but I managed to get to 40 none-the-less, so I call that a partial success.

[50 Judge Powers]

Act 3 Begins!!!

AaronFrost

has died! He was a...

Spoiler:

Evil Magical Disguise Lords of the Boonski’i

Welcome,

AaronFrost

, you are

Brutus

,

Split Willbooster Party Crasher

.

Be not deceived. If I have veiled my look, I turn the trouble of my countenance Merely upon myself. Vexèd I am Of late with passions of some difference, Conceptions only proper to myself, Which give some soil perhaps to my behaviors. But let not therefore, my good friends, be grieved— Among which number, Cassius, be you one— Nor construe any further my neglect Than that poor Brutus, with himself at war, Forgets the shows of love to other men.

i;ii Julius Caesar

Abilities:

• You are a

Willbooster

. This will make whoever you target unable to be blocked.
• You are a

Party Crasher

. At night, you may target someone. If you target someone in a private thread, you will join that private thread.
• You have the

Split

modifier. If you have the ability to do so, you MUST use at least 2 actions on at least 2 different players.
• You know that there are a total of 5 Evil Magical Disguise Lords of the Boonski’i. Your teammates are separated into 2 different Evil Lairs in pairs, one pair kills on Odd-Nights, one pair kills on Even-Nights. They will combine Evil Lairs when a certain condition has been met. You know that

REDACTED

and

REDACTED

are 2 of your partners. Your Party Crash ability will

NOT

succeed by targeting them, but they will work on your other 2 partners. However, if you are to be killed by the factional kill, you will instead be recruited into the Evil Lair Private Thread and be able to make the factional kill. If you somehow find yourself as the last Evil Lord alive, you will join the Evil Lair Private Thread and be able to make the factional kill.

Win condition:

You win when all of the Bard’s Battalion have died, or nothing can prevent this from happening.

Game thread is here. Confirm by replying to this PM with your role name.

Chara

has died! They were a...

Spoiler:

Bard’s Battalion

Welcome,

Chara

, you are

Othello

,

Non-consecutive Babysitter

.

Even so my bloody thoughts with violent pace
Shall ne’er look back, ne’er ebb to humble love.

iii;iii Othello

Abilities:

• You are a

Babysitter

. At night, you may target a player. You will protect them from a night kill. If you are to be killed, you will kill your target as well.
• You have the

Non-Consecutive

modifier. You may not use your ability 2 nights in a row.

Win condition:

You win when all threats to the Bard’s Battalion have been eliminated and there is at least one town player alive.

Game thread is here. Confirm by replying to this PM with your role name.

1- WELL DONE, Chara <3
2- Does anybody still doubt that Joan is SCUM? (Hint: Reread Aaron's Role PM)

VOTE: Joan

[50 Judge Powers]

Another direct counterclaim to chkflip's rolestopper

VOTE: chkflip

Where??

[50 Judge Powers]

If you reread it then that means she's more likely town actually. His ability seemed to be so he could join the scum PT but he couldn't use it on 2 of them.

Yet he

could

use it on the other two, and she is likely one of the pair he wasn't informed of.

[50 Judge Powers]

The neighborhood seems more likely a counter balance so he couldnt just use it willy nilly? But he joined the neighborhood on purpose for... Some reason.

Bingo! Then he did target dave and Joan was one of the two

he was informed of

. It's a means to establish communication with a team partner, and probably fish for the other two (i.e. see if Joan knew who the other two scum were).

[50 Judge Powers]

It read like he could only join if he hit scum he didn't know about.

That was for the scum PT. He couldn't have joined the PT with Joan, but he could still join the neighborhood if he targeted her neighbor. The NEIGHBORHOOD, not the Scum PT.

[50 Judge Powers]

The doc enabler claim was to draw the nightkill I assume.

If that's the case then he wanted to draw the NK of the other pair, so he could be recruited with them, and tell them that Joan & ?? are the other two.

[50 Judge Powers]

... If he wasnt informed she was his partner... Of all the people to target to get into the scum PT, he targets Her? Not likely.

If he wasn't notified of her then it's the #1 choice to target because she is OBV!SCUM. However, I think he was informed if her and joined the hood to be able to communicate with her.

[50 Judge Powers]

When he realized that wasn't the case he helped lynch him.

No. He lynched him so he could have the PT for him and Joan. If you insist in pursuing your defence of Joan, then I'm afraid I must insist in the opposite direction.

[50 Judge Powers]

Occam's Razor

I honestly couldn't care less about any kinds of razors. I don't even shave my beard anymore!

[50 Judge Powers]

Joan can't be scum. I'm calling this a hard clear. If she was scum then AF would have joined the scum pt, not the pt than Drew was in.

1- If he was notified of her name then he could not have joined her scum PT by targeting her.
2- If he wasn't notified of her, then why do you assume he didn't join BOTH her hoods (i.e. also the scum PT)?

[50 Judge Powers]

Joan can't be scum. I'm calling this a hard clear. If she was scum then AF would have joined the scum pt, not the pt than Drew was in.

Not exactly. If Joan was his listed partner, then it works like A50 describes. It's just stupid unlikely.

Unlikely enough that I'm gonna vote anyone who ever suggests it again.

I am suggesting it.. over and over.. and I am not moving my vote off Joan until she is removed from this game. I made a mistake yesterday and I won't do it again. Joan is the lynch or I'm sabotaging the game.

[50 Judge Powers]

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[50 Judge Powers]

or I'm sabotaging the game.

In the nicest possible way, go fuck yourself.

My pecker is not that long!

[50 Judge Powers]

WE HAVE A BLOODY BABYSITTER FLIP. YOU DON'T PUT A DOCTOR AND A BABYSITTER IN THE SAME SETUP WITH THE SAME ALIGNMENT. WE ALSO HAVE A ROLESTOPPER WHO IS ALSO A TOWN PROTECTIVE. STOP THINKING WITH YOUR BUTTS AND TRY USING YOUR HEADS FOR ONCE (AND I MEAN THE ONE ABOVE YOUR SHOULDERS. THE OTHER ONE'S AP'S SPECIALTY). DO THE BLOODY MATH. YOU THINK SCUM COULD HAVE HAD 3 FUNCTIONALLY BP TOWNIES PER NIGHT?? THREE UNKILLABLE PLAYERS?? WHAT?? ARE YOU NUTS??

[50 Judge Powers]

@Joan: What game?

[50 Judge Powers]

The one where I was the MC, flavor-wise.

MC?? Was I the DJ???

[50 Judge Powers]

Also, use your night action on me Chara. I trust you.

This

alone

should prove once and for all that Bambi is Town here. I mean, let's say they knew Chara was a Babysitter (worst case scenario). How the freak would they request it to be on them and then shoot it????

[50 Judge Powers]

Fonz is likely town for digging that quote up

[50 Judge Powers]

Bambi Jay.

Have we considered the homie Ejet confided their role to VnM?

VOTE: Venus and Mars

Why are you voting V and M when Titus is claiming them mechanically clear? Shouldn't you vote Titus first?

Using Titus very logic re Nips & myself; this is exactly where we should be pushing today.

[50 Judge Powers]

Apologies in advance go to chkflp & Bambi (and a couple others, maybe)

@Titus: Did you get recharged?

[50 Judge Powers]

Why can't A50 and Nips be scum together?

VOTE: Titus

This is going too far, and I can see Titus being Scum here. Even if not, I am willing to throw. I will only support wagons on Titus/Joan today. These two are informative enough, even IF -hypothetically- either of them is Town.

[50 Judge Powers]

It seems his action use was compulsory and had to target two different players - or am I reading that wrong?

Not compulsory but any action he took could not be on the same player.

Oh, for the LOVE OF GOD, Titus! PLEASE READ!

You have the Split modifier. If you have the ability to do so,

you MUST use at least 2 actions

on at least 2 different players.

If you have the ability to do so,

you MUST use at least 2 actions

on at least 2 different players.

you MUST use at least 2 actions

you MUST

MUST

[50 Judge Powers]

[quote="In post 6163, Bambi Jay"]Nancy, that's a loud modifier on a Fruit Vendor. I think that's completely different.[/quote

Nothing "game related", but I always considered the FV to be a "Loud Visitor" myself. So having a Loud-Loud-Visitor made me chuckle.

[50 Judge Powers]

This means Chara was the nightkill and Aaron died because Chara probably protected him. Now I understand how this role works.

Is it possible that scum killed someone and a vig killed the other?

This is only possible if Chara didn't act at all. If they did then their target dies with them, and we only have one other dead body. We also have no evidence there is a Vig in play (although there might be one who is gated.. like Even Night or something)

[50 Judge Powers]

A50 and Nips can only be scum if both are.

Why can't A50 be scum who cleared Nips to get TR'd himself? Also, that would be a perfect way to pocket Nips. I think A50 might be a Rolecop who checked Nips and knew he was a Miller, and then he tailored his claim around it.

~AP

[50 Judge Powers]

I don't recharge.

Then how did you use your ability on N2? I am confused.

[50 Judge Powers]

Why the omgus A50? Also, if you're going to chastise me for not reading, I don't recharge.

What do you think of chkflip's push on V and M? What is your Amrun read?

@A50

Sorry. What is your question again?

[50 Judge Powers]

I don't recharge.

Then how did you use your ability on N2? I am confused.

I am not gated by limited shots. I was a normal neighborizer made desperate by scum.

Please read before getting mrlodramatic.

What is gated? And why do you think you were made desperate by scum rather than town?

[50 Judge Powers]

Why the omgus A50? Also, if you're going to chastise me for not reading, I don't recharge.

What do you think of chkflip's push on V and M? What is your Amrun read?

@A50

Sorry. What is your question again?

Read the quote.

I did, and there are three question marks. So which question do you want answered?

[50 Judge Powers]

I give out the dead fish.

Do you also give chips by any chance? Not that I like fish & chips myself, but it's silly enough a question that matches this game perfectly.

[50 Judge Powers]

I am not loyal

Are you crumbing Brutus?

[50 Judge Powers]

Why the omgus A50? Also, if you're going to chastise me for not reading, I don't recharge.

What do you think of chkflip's push on V and M? What is your Amrun read?

@A50

Sorry. What is your question again?

Read the quote.

I did, and there are three question marks. So which question do you want answered?

All of them.

In what order?

[50 Judge Powers]

I read him asking the recharge thing as a joke.

You're obviously too perceptive to be in this game. You have my sympathy.

[50 Judge Powers]

Basically Almost, can you tell me what your thoughts on Chk's reasoning against Nancy along with what you think of Amrun now knowing they're a fruit vendor?

chkflp reasoning makes a lot of sense. I may not be ready to fully endorse it, but it makes sense none-the-less.

As for Amrun, I don't have a solid read on her. Sometimes I think she's Town and sometimes I don't. In other words, my read on her is going up and down like a sinus rhythm.

[50 Judge Powers]

Also Creature is

really

scummy I can't shake the idea he's been told to fakeclaim his role by Titus to saw more seeds of confusion in the town ranks. And you wonder why I left the game for AP to "play with"?

[50 Judge Powers]

Why the omgus A50? Also, if you're going to chastise me for not reading, I don't recharge.

What do you think of chkflip's push on V and M? What is your Amrun read?

@A50

Sorry. What is your question again?

Read the quote.

I did, and there are three question marks. So which question do you want answered?

All of them.

In what order?

Whatever order. FFS stop stalling.

How am I stalling? I am so confused.

[50 Judge Powers]

I am also tired

[50 Judge Powers]

I am bored too

[50 Judge Powers]

Can we lynch Joan now? (suits the meme, but the target is for real)

[50 Judge Powers]

Any special reason you're being overly difficult?

How am I being difficult?

Also, I'm tired.

I am also bored.

Can we lynch Joan today?

[50 Judge Powers]

They are really simple questions.

If they are simple I should not be answering them, because I am not a CT and simple only works on VT/Goon

[50 Judge Powers]

Your read on Amrun.

Depends om whether she

is

Lorenzo Lamas. (You really should not have jumped into this. SORRY!)

[50 Judge Powers]

Why the OMGUS?

Because I feel like it. I think it's Titus/Creature/Joan/someone else

P.S. "Someone else" is not a player in this game, I know. They're playing under an alt.

[50 Judge Powers]

What do you think about chkflip push on V&M?

Look at your avi and imagine me saying "thinking.. thinking... thin-king"

[50 Judge Powers]

Nancy is basically hinting Dayvig and I think she's wanting to shoot you.

My fingers are crossed, my friend. (Or is it "I'm pressing my thumb"??)