Redneck Mafia GAME OVER PARTNER!

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Lich, Logic:

Let's perform an exercise.

Let's say the three of us (myself, you, Logic) are town. We have a semi-confirm locking Pook and Goof as town. That gives a pretty small berth to find scum.

Give me three. Ignore your lists.

[chkflip]

Okay, let's go this direction.

VOTE: pisskop

Givin me bad MM2 vibes here, bud.

[chkflip]

Okay, let's go this direction.

VOTE: pisskop

Givin me bad MM2 vibes here, bud.

I assume this means you think I'm wrong on TLich. Why do you think he's town?

I don't. I'm extending an olive branch

for Logic to shit on

.

I asked them both to provide scum reads and am attempting to work

with

them to see if perhaps it was t/t/t all along like you alluded to (sans your Lich read which, again, I agree with). I get major horse blinders, admittedly, and sometimes I refuse to step back from those reads. This is me taking a step back (one I said I'd take several pages ago but never really did) and seeing what happens.

Logic shade was forecasted and maybe I'm hoping for too much here but I've strong-armed a lot of this phase and I

really

need others to continue chiming in bc my reads could be a tire fire. It happens a lot.

[chkflip]

Also I haven't been a fan of almost any of pisskop's posts so I want a whole hell of a lot more from that slot.

[chkflip]

Mhm.

Bingle is town.

Eyyy here's the DGB town I know and respect.

More of this please.

[chkflip]

Lavender did not TOWNSLIP due to the stuff in the role pm. Bingle stating that chkflip is town for stating that is BAD mechanical and social reasoning.

Two things:

1. I truly believe they did and that was the reason I called people to *cough* unfortunatelylynchthetowncop *cough* are you saying I'm fabricating that after the fact?

2. Am I being pocketed or are you saying Bingle and I are aligned?

[chkflip]

Someone or someones is lying.

Or there's a busdriver and I gave Iec credit where credit wasn't due.

[chkflip]

Which means whomever Logic actually tracked that didn't go anywhere (I'm assuming since Logic didn't call Alch a liar) is either VT or a goon that didn't perform the kill.

[chkflip]

Mhm, mhm. Still town.

Bingle is town.

wrong

VOTE: Vecna

Elaborate.

[chkflip]

Not necessarily since a busdriver isn't, technically, actually targeting Alch. It's just switching people who do target him.

[chkflip]

Chk is an old school mod, and I can 100% see him not expecting a scum fakeclaim to exist.

Giving role PM information as part of a fakeclaim packet would be incredibly fucking strange. It isn't something I'll hard town now, since it's already happened, but I also took Lavs experience into factor when coming to my conclusion.

[chkflip]

Harumph. Sounds like a lot of work.

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Is scum play just to ride the fucking clock out these days? Jesus Christ.

[chkflip]

hi ho i might read tonight-o

umm prodge?

idk whats going on dont ask me

gimme a day or three, ill read and answer.

Oh he's made plenty of those, bud.

[chkflip]

I think he's talking about me there.

[chkflip]

pk doesn't have but two or three votes. Vote pisskop.

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What happened with Drew and A50?

[chkflip]

I don't recall 50 getting pressure, and I've pushed almost every wagon by your account. When did that happen?

[chkflip]

Also, as far as pressure goes, I wouldn't call what DD experienced was pressure to him either. Not to be too contrarian and have another back and forth with you, chap, I'm just sayin.

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VOTE: Almost50

Well hot damn if my memory isn't hot trash sometimes.

Forgive me.

[chkflip]

I think I even called him town after that.

I'll have to review why that was. What's your reason for scum reading him?

[chkflip]

That's... a lot of scum reads.

Break em down whenever you get a chance.

[chkflip]

Naturally. But that's not really an answer, now, is it? (rhetorical)

Clearly I'm asking how it is that this particular *checks notes* HALF of the playerlist didn't make your cut. If that means I'm asking why you town read the other half to you, then sure, let's see some reasons why you're town reading the other half. If that means I'm asking you to dive into why these particular names aren't town enough, then sure, dive into that. What nobody is looking for, however, is "bc PoE." Fucking WHY are they in your PoE, cornfield? WHY.

Thanks for your understanding.

[chkflip]

Everyone is slowly drifting towards the cosy feeling that the entire scumteam has put zero effort into solving.

Though I did make a comment about the lurksacks, I don't think every lurksack is scum.

[chkflip]

We should talk about the pool you're going cop from, y/n?

[chkflip]

I was probably busy arguing with a Log then. I think it'd be best if you attempted to use it on someone universally scum read so we can eliminate them as a possibility. Just my two cents.

[chkflip]

I'm not convinced you know what that means.

That word... *Princess Bride jokes are fun.

[chkflip]

Is there any players specifically you want me to explain my read on?

Why are you dragging this out for no fucking reason?

[chkflip]

I don't think I've seen Vecna!scum, but I don't think this is it.

[chkflip]

I mean if I were a cop I'd use it on the most contentious slot, which is probably Doctor Drew right now

I don't think we should single out any one person for fairly obvious reasons.

We could use it on PK and Eliminate Drew Today.

Is there any players specifically you want me to explain my read on?

Why are you dragging this out for no fucking reason?

Because I don’t feel like ISO diving everyone.

User, TL, A50

[chkflip]

I mean if I were a cop I'd use it on the most contentious slot, which is probably Doctor Drew right now

We could use it on PK and Eliminate Drew Today.

I don't think we should single out any one person for fairly obvious reasons.

*Fixed

[chkflip]

Posts like that, Lich. I'd eat my fucking hat if I was wrong.

[chkflip]

Chill the fuck out, dude.

[chkflip]

I'm so glad we understand each other.

Are you by chance caught up? No worries if not, just curious on your opinion of, well, anything.

[chkflip]

You're good, man. I was just curious.

[chkflip]

To drag this out is to allow me to Surf/Coast for longer. It's midnight and I got a morning shift. Feck.

If I'm actually not trying tommorow push my ass.

Shit like this, too, now that I look back at it.

[chkflip]

I

What?

[chkflip]

PK still needs to get on and defend themselves
I Still need to do those ISO cases Chkflip requested

He needs to post... So you unvote? What does that accomplish?

[chkflip]

This town has pinned all its hopes and dreams on a claimed third party player.

The town's top priority right now is to help the claimed third party achieve his wincon by transferring all its power to it.

At least this town is sorting other slots, Jack.

[chkflip]

No one should be eliminated without giving a Defence first.
Wouldn’t you agree Chkflip?

You'll apparently be ISO'ing pisskop soon so you'll see why I don't particularly give a shit about him getting eliminated one way or the other at this stage of the game.

[chkflip]

Dude.

I need to sleep for a fucking week, my bad.

[chkflip]

People DO wanna kill him. Hence the Vig shot. Duh.

If he's only bulletproof and someone elsa targets him he's fucked too. It's not like he claimed this thinking he'd get people to announce what they're targeting him with.

For example I'm lying about hitting him with a vig shot but he knows what I actually did instead.

Nice vanity vote.

What was your pisskop read again?
I need context on this Day 1 post. Here you say you did something Day 1 Alch should know about and today you say you did something Night 1. Yet you say you're bored. This doesn't sound like a boring role. Ergo, I think you're just making stuff up. But are you doing it as town or as maf?
VOTE: elsa

[chkflip]

MOTHERFUCKING POOBRAIN

"Nice vanity vote.

What was your pisskop read again?"

Should be OUTSIDE the quote. Fuck.

[chkflip]

gimme a day or three, ill read and answer.

How long until we all collectively realize this is never fucking happening?

[chkflip]

You know what? I am going back to my never failed me strategy and sheep a lady.

VOTE: Alchemist

Lurkfuck worthless vote.

[chkflip]

I've just lost motivation for awhile to play mafia honestly. But it's back. What's the highlight reel Bingle Boggle?

You have <80 posts. Unacceptable.

[chkflip]

vote: TemporalLich

Stop prodging and fucking participate.

[chkflip]

That's over a third of the game doing

nothing

if you include user who is legitimately the only one I'm giving a fucking pass. Call me Lemongrab.

Spoiler: UNACCEPTABLE CONDITIOOOOON

[chkflip]

@MOD: Do I really have to remind you to prod your playerlist?

[chkflip]

THIS IS HOT ASS DOG SHIT

pisskop (4): chkflip, TemporalLich, Almost50, Bingle
TemporalLich (2): PookyTheMagicalBear, pisskop
Alchemist21 (2): DrippingGoofball, Doctor Drew
Doctor Drew (1): Alchemist21
Bingle (1): Vecna
Elsa Jay (1): Galron
Not Voting (3): username, Elsa Jay, Logicalicaltist

With 14 alive, it takes 8 to blast someone!
Day Two ends on Thursday, July 30th at 10:00pm EST

That's up to date. Almost half the game are either not voting or wasting their vote. That number breaches half if you include the still self-resolving 3p wagon.

Like

Fucking WHYYYYYYYY

[chkflip]

I’m willing to switch to A50 or Pisskop if need be but Drew is just more likely to be scum imo.

I'm still townpiling 50, personally, but what are you seeing that I'm not?

[chkflip]

That's over a third of the game doing

nothing

if you include user who is legitimately the only one I'm giving a fucking pass. Call me Lemongrab.

Spoiler: UNACCEPTABLE CONDITIOOOOON

Oh wait add DGB who exclusively posts to bitch about the 3p and that "over a third" goes to

almost

fucking HALF

.

Jesus Christ.

[chkflip]

If you're in that FUCKING SIX and you have a FUCKING TOWN ROLE PM you should be ashamed of yourself. Legitimately. You're straight up handing scum the win here.

Why

[chkflip]

It matches my multiple personal experiences with town A50.

He admittedly isn't doing enough either, and I'm not willing to townlock him from meta alone, but he at least isn't someone I'm willing to evict from the island today.

Do me a favor and vote pisskop.

If Logic comes back and puts his vote back where it should be that'll put him at Blast-2. Maybe that'll fucking motivate him.

I sincerely fucking doubt it at this point but hey, why not be optimistic right?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

HA

HAHAHAHA

I hate this shit so Goddamn much.

[chkflip]

Hey DGB.

The 3p is now officially helping solve more than you are.

Let that ruminate for a minute.

[chkflip]

That's what the FUCK I'm talkin about.

user is town. If Pook is true, DGB is town. Bingle is town because I trust DGB's ability to sort and that's the only slot they've sorted. 50 is town by meta. If I'm wrong on one of Log/TL I'd bet it's Log. Alch is 3p.

The mafia is in pisskop, TL, DD, Galron, Elsa, and Vecna.

I'm willing to town pass Vecna by meta because he's hard headed af. Unsure if AI tho so not entirely clear.

I know it

sounds

hairbrained but I'll fucking RETIRE FOREVER if at LEAST 75% of the solve isn't those six names.

[chkflip]

Auro 50 elsa

Check this:\

if he is town, its a free lynch
if he is purple, it never mattered to your wincon
if scum, then a good chance to bus and make confusion/distance


More important to that, it is an easy soap box from which to hard defend or attack from, and a distraction from the actual gameplay.

Calls 50 town, defends 3p as a bad lynch.

VOTE: a50

thats a better wagon than goofball

VOTE: 3p

Votes 50, votes 3p.

ONE OF THESE THINGS IS NOT LIKE THE OTHER
ONE OF THESE THINGS JUST DOESN'T BELONG

[chkflip]

Fuck my entire life if that's real.

[chkflip]

Who are you?

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Yeah nah you know that's not what I fuckin meant bud.

[chkflip]

I already hate you.

Are you at least reading or are you just gonna close your eyes and hope for the best tonight?

[chkflip]

I'm A sEcReT

I'm not being toxic. Stop wasting your vote.

I'm asking a legitimate question. We have plenty of associatives with a pisskop flip. There are ZERO crumbs in his ISO and not crumbing a role like that isn't what pisskop does. Then there's the question of how a ninja cop, a jailkeeper, a tracker, an informed townie, and a half-vig is even remotely balanced.

Don't talk to me about toxic.

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Yeah I'm good with my vote.

That's not real.

[chkflip]

Two of those roles have flipped, son.

You'd know that if you even asked for a summary tho.

But yeah nah the "half-vig" is gonna pick a name at random from half a phase of information (thats actually kinda funny; half vig, half day, I'll show myself out) and I'm the one that's making a mistake.

That's cute.

Pedit: he's not a vig.

[chkflip]

Thun is flailing and TL is trying real hard not to look like a buddy rn.

Galron hook it up with a vote my dude.

[chkflip]

You'd know that if you even asked for a summary tho.

Like

You'd know that by looking at the post you literally had to look at when you got your Role PM.

Yeah nah that's not an OMGUS vote. No sir.

[chkflip]

I'm applying a correct amount of pressure to someone who just straight up lied to my face. You're not even trying to consider that rn.

Pedit: I don't need two boys who cried roleblocked.

[chkflip]

Cool cool cool cool cool.

And then it'll be mafia who got roleblocked.

That's the story, right?

Just wanna make sure we all know what's actually fucking happening here.

Pedit: you're on the right track, Galron. Keep cranking.

[chkflip]

That's a very good question, Galron.

[chkflip]

Good to see you again, Beetlejuice. Vote Thun.

He. Is. Fucking. Lyingggggg

[chkflip]

Aside from the fact that it's obvious?

Oh Idk. Probably pisskop meta. Maybe the setup. Likely how today has gone. There are many variables.

[chkflip]

Solid rolefish tho Log. I see you.

[chkflip]

Your vote is currently nowhere, friend.

[chkflip]

CARRY ON SOLDIER I'M DUMB

[chkflip]

What happened to that CONFIDENCE you had before, Jimmy?

This AtE ain't a good look.

Does your Role PM describe anything else?

[chkflip]

Thun, the words right above your name on your role card, do they say "Hillbilly Vig"?

Above your name, Thun.

Surely you don't think he meant YOUR name, do you?

Last chance to be honest with us Thun.

[chkflip]

For someone who was so pissy about me calling you out, you sure ain't hidin it anymore, are ya boy?

No more chances for Thun.

He's obviously lying.

Look at your Role PM, Log, and tell me it says your fucking PR above your name.

It don't.

Blast Thun to the fucking sun. Thanks.

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CARRY ON SOLDIER I'M DUMB

You’ve been full of mistakes all games “Soldier”.

That's maaaaaad disrespectful seeing as how I served my fucking country, but I won't hold it against you bud. You didn't know. Now you do. Don't do that again.

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He'S pAnIcKiNg

That's how you sound to the rest of the playerlist, bud.

This ain't even the first time

today

I've gotten hyped.

I'm glad you checked your scum pt and someone helped you out. Implies they're active to the point of checking the thread at least. That's helpful.

Have any other reads or are we just gonna keep doing this OMGUS thing while actively calling it something else?

[chkflip]

My bad.
Didn’t realize that.

Don't even worry about it. I got a little defensive there and I know you didn't know. I don't think anyone in this thread did tbf. It's all good.

[chkflip]

50, user, and I'll go with Bingle over Vecna but I'm not super passionate about either of them tbh. This is ignoring the obvious two, of course, that have cleared themselves in their own way.

[chkflip]

You're a confusing person, Lich.

You wanna explain why you're schizo voting in the last couple hours?

[chkflip]

They're*

[chkflip]

The claim is a fucking lie, dude.

Ignore the claim for all I care.

pisskop couldn't keep his fucking reads right. You're telling me he did that shit to avoid being killed at night?

Nah fam. Nah.

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It says Vigilante in green, Galron. My alignment and the even-night modifier is described below that.

First of all this isn't how Role PMs work, like, at all.

Second, look at the flipped PRs and compare them to this.

Spoiler: Skeeter Wallis

Hillbilly PR

Skeeter Wallis

You are a

Lawman.

You come from a long line of Lawmen, all the way back to your great, great, great grandaddy.
Albeit, they have not been the best at that job.
You've vowed to be the best Lawman that the Wallis family has ever produced.
Getting rid of these

Rednecks

is your first big task.
Show this town you're not like the

Lawmen

that have come before you.

Each night you may target a player. They cannot die, or perform any action that night.

You win when all of the

Rednecks

have been run out of town.

Spoiler: Diemon Dave (Iecerint)

Hillbilly PR

Diemon Dave

You are a

Kung-Fu Hillbilly

After your short stint on the Jerry Springer show, you had lots of fame.
That quickly died out, and now you've settled in Wiltwickee.
This has become your new home. You even opened up your own dojo to make sure all the kids of this town can stay safe.

Each night you may target a player. You will be told if they are a

Redneck

or a

Hillbilly.

Thanks to your extensive training, this ability is untraceable.

You win when all of the

Rednecks

have been run out of town.

YOU'RE TELLING ME THAT BAKER

WHO FLAVORED JAILKEEPER AND NINJA COP INTO THAT

JUST WENT "yeah nah we'll just call you a vigilante"

NAH B

[chkflip]

"You're a vigilante"

"OH BY THE WAY IT'S ONLY EVEN NIGHTS"

Like

You're fucking kidding me, right?

And it just HAPPENS TO BE on even nights?

Get

The fuck

Out

[chkflip]

You're missing the point my dude. Please see the post before that again. He's clearly buying himself a night.

That ain't fuckin happening.

[chkflip]

Okay, Logic.

Logic, okay.

Okay, Logic.

Riddle me this: why the FUCK do I kill anyone who kills me, as town, with an even-night vigilante on the prowl as well?

You're telling me THREE potential town deaths, especially late game (had we not gotten ourselves in this situation) ON TOP OF a town tracker slash town ninja cop situation ACTUALLY MAKES FUCKING SENSE to you?

I understand this is new information. I didn't want to share. I'm furious that I'm in this situation at all.

But it doesn't make any fucking sense to me. Not just ONE but TWO "lolfuckbeingtown" shenanigans in the same setup?

Someone's fucking lying here.

[chkflip]

VOTE: TemporalLich

My pitch tomorrow was partner.

The erratic voting, my never-went-away scum read, the pocketing attempt by just voting with me. It all matches up.

[chkflip]

WE'VE GOT A BITER.

Whelp. Where to, Lich? I really need some help here.

[chkflip]

VOTE: Doctor Drew

[chkflip]

So what’s your current read on Chkflip?

Isn't it obvious?

Don't be...



...illlogical.


YYYYYYEEEEEEEAAAAAAAHHHHHHH

[chkflip]

but chkflip doing the "it cant coexist with my role thing" the naming argument, and now his vote is suddenly elsewhere...

To be honest, it feels like I'm the only one that gives a fuck and I'm dead tonight if scum doesn't believe my claim, so, it's not on me anymore bubba. I don't have the energy to shout from the mountaintops anymore.

He's the elimination I want, trust. But it's like... fuck it if town ain't on board.

[chkflip]

By the by, and I know you know this, but testing the fucking waters instead of just outright voting me is fence-sitty bullshit you've done all game and I'm pretty tired of seeing it.

[chkflip]

Homeboy disappearing relit my fire.

VOTE: Thun

Let's burn this candle.

[chkflip]

Elsa, DD, TL. I've been down with any of them for a while. Check my ISO.

I think you also know very well I dont care about whether im sitting on a fence, and I rarely give a shit how people feel about my process of reaching my conclusions. If im the only one that thinks youre town ill still defend you to death (like with votato last game we played together) and if im the only one that thinks youre scum I also really dont give a shit being the only vanity voter just for the sake of it.

This is good I like this.

Having said all that, I really didnt care for your "everyone not one of these 6 votes is wasting their shit, blabla". Especially now that youre actually encouraging me to do that.

Before Thun repped in, I was advocating for people to just start fucking posting again. Half the game was doing literally nothing. Some of that list is still doing nothing but here we are.

What people don't realize is that when I say "your vote sucks, move it" I'm not demanding you actually do it. I'm engaging you. If I don't like your vote? So fucking what dude play your game. But without engagement we have nothing and I can't sort shit when it's just sitting on the floor. I need to splatter it on the wall. That's... not different than how I played last time we played?

But whatever to all that. Im still in the ongoing process of making up my mind. Your play this game is completely wtf-all-over-the-place. Im not used from you whatsoever that youre trying to be the bad cop townleader trying to forcefully get people to do what you want em to do. You were much less inclined to make people do what you wanted them to do in all our prior games. Whether its just a change in style and youre fighting for your beliefs, or youre openwolfing to kingdom come out of some sort of desperation because all the alternatives are likely to land on scum.....eh. fuck me if I know.

So, ill enjoy my spot here on the fence.

Oh I jumped the gun. That last bit should go here. I will add that my level of engagement does change with player lists, my role, and how I'm being read. I think you've seen that happen throughout the last couple weeks. I do this rollercoaster thing. No?

[chkflip]

[chkflip]

You scum?

[chkflip]

Hm.

What's the plan, Titus? You gonna read, or...?

[chkflip]

A50, Thun never claimed an N1 target. Dunno where you got that from bud.

[chkflip]

Read 2479 and come back to me, bud.

[chkflip]

OH HE'S SAYING PISSKOP SAID THAT.

Carry on.

[chkflip]

Alchemist should absolutely not announce who he's targeting.

[chkflip]

Also isn’t Thun 1 Vote away from hammer.
If so I’d like to say the following:
Anyone who Quick hammers Thun is scum claiming.

Not even close, bud.

Most of the wagon dissipated.

The wagon has not been easy all fucking phase.

Everything you're saying is absolute bullshit.

[chkflip]

Pisskop, my (VERY DEEP) analysis of you tells me that youre playing exactly the same game as in the saw game, except now you feel happy.

Is that because you do not have to place people into murderous death pits but can instead murder them in a more gentle tender way, making you happier?

I got my eye on you. My radar is calibrated. My sonar is gently buzzing. Youre not gonna get away with it again

Tell me again how this means you're town reading them?

[chkflip]

That entire interaction is fascinating.

[chkflip]

@ Everyone (minus un, who has a legitimate reason) who has not engaged with my push on TLich... Why not? If you're townreading him, why?

VOTE: pk


Bingle's would lynch pool:

TLich, pk, gal, Drew, EJ

VOTE: Unvote
We have time.

PK still needs to get on and defend themselves
I Still need to do those ISO cases Chkflip requested

I can see why you'd think it was fast, since you swiftly unvoted as soon as someone voted on the wagon with you (you were the 4th vote, he was the 5th almost 36 hours later), but this wagon has transformed from a "hey lurksack, do something" wagon to "I actually have a case on pk" to several people chiming in with different things. This wasn't some overnight sensation wagon and I really don't like to see someone trying to change the narrative on what actually went down.

[chkflip]

I mean the wagon went fast when I voted them.

You just said it went fast.

[chkflip]

That entire interaction is fascinating.

is it now?

It is, but I need a flip before I can get into it accurately.

[chkflip]

You didn't answer my question, btw.

[chkflip]

Sure. We have two town wagons with major presence. So I would look at why scum got invested in T v T. Ensuring scum didn't get wagoned is a decent theory. The last semi-major wagon before the T v T ones was Bingle.

What of the 50 wagon?

[chkflip]

gif me a reads list?

[chkflip]

I give a fuck, Pook. And the game heavily stalled a day or two ago because half of the list (you included) simply weren't participating. So as helpful as your random spurts of gifposting are keeping you out of prod range, well, I'd really like you to actually participate in the game. And by that I mean I want to see where your reads are at.

[chkflip]

Your refusal to fucking play a game you signed up for is so incredibly frustrating.

Clint Rosewood. Even-night vigilante.

Vote: Elsa Jay

y'all not gonna do anything about the counterclaim?

Claim aside, are you scum reading Elsa? Reasons?

[chkflip]

Your refusal to fucking play a game you signed up for is so incredibly frustrating.

Next time I'll pick a better time, more convenient for you, for my life to fall apart.

I was talking to Pooky.

[chkflip]

You didn't answer my question, btw.

You picked one of my posts, there was plenty of talk about pisskop in later posts, so your question was kinda like you just control f'd pisskop and only questioned the first post

You said "early game" so I was curious and looked. I'd say the 200s is particularly early in the game and, yes, it might've been the first time you engaged with him. Not positive about that. Can you show me roundabout which posts you got a town feel for him?

[chkflip]

Vecna voting me after we got a contradiction from Thun already. Fun.

Isn't mafia swell?

I still believe the Thun wagon is solely "Thun's claim is bad"...

That's not very good but Thun hasn't seemed towny to me maybe

It isn't solely that. Where are you getting that from?

And why do you CONSTANTLY fence sit?

[chkflip]

You didn't answer my question on the 50 wagon.

[chkflip]

What else played a part in your Bingle conclusion?

[chkflip]

Nothing much implies there's a little something, no?

Share with the class.

[chkflip]

Nothing much implies there's a little something, no?

Share with the class.

If I felt there was confident data, I would have. I don't throw my VCA around lightly and I don't make things up and stretch where I don't feel the evidence supports it. I would need more flips to extrapolate more data here.

Part of me is weirded out at how slow the Thun wagon is.

Yeah nah I just meant in general. Like if there was anything else aside from the VC that made you go that route.

Weirded out how?

It honestly might just be possible Thun is Caught Scum and their buds are bussing them.
That is a valid reason as to why the wagon is way too simple.
But it could also just be that they are Town with an odd Role.

So is the wagon going fast or slow?

I'm confused.

[chkflip]

Who should I shoot then?

I'm not reading 90 pages if I'm probably gonna be the lynch today.

LMAOOOO you weren't reading when you replaced in and the wagon started falling apart wtf is this garbage

The only reason for doubt I have on Tun maybe being scum is that certain people are acting like theyre aware he's about to flip scum and are already trying to make people look bad for defending the slot.

You should say my name when you're talking about me.

[chkflip]

I really wish you'd actively play the fucking game you signed up for instead of only popping in when we Beetlejuice you in here.

[chkflip]

Did DGB actually vote for someone outside of deadline necessity?

Fucking ANOMALY this game. Gotta back that.

VOTE: TemporalLich

Thun. To be clear, unless you're bulletproof (which I'll give you this one last chance to claim), you really shouldn't shoot me seeing as how, y'know, you'd fucking flip ANYWAY. And what was all this for, hm? Do yourself a favor and listen to the people who are actually reading the game.

[chkflip]

I fucking loathe this list.

[chkflip]

Less than a week and we're halfway to nowhere on two wagons.

[chkflip]

Oh several times, yes.

I don't fucking understand it but a shit ton of people in this game are playing "mafia but on our heads" this game and it's incredibly aggravating.

[chkflip]

Bear in mind I'm at E-4, that's too early for a claim

I'm talking about people just outwardly asking you to claim extremely early for no apparent reason whatsoever. I don't think this is solely Log who has done it and it makes no sense whatsoever.

[chkflip]

There's also the fact that I kill who kills me, so, yeah. Elsa was lying but I'm not. And you're right! It doesn't fucking make sense. But here we are.

inb4 Lich claims fucking doc.

Mafia doc would add some sense to us having two killing roles. Not a TON but... yeah.

[chkflip]

Less than a week and we're halfway to nowhere on two wagons.

Then let’s get some where.
Let’s figure out who’s the absolute best elimination for today.
Hopefully one where we aren’t risking much.

This cookie cutter townie lite bullshit can be thrown into a fire too.

[chkflip]

Come again?

[chkflip]

You were scum reading user?

[chkflip]

Vecna, I think you may be on to something.

The self-vote sat really weird with me too. To offer oneself up once seems like it'd be confident town. But the out-of-left-field vote on himself? Fool me twice?

I'm not completely willing to drop TL, and I think it's incredibly fucking stupid of us to not be lynching the obvious lie in Thun -- after pisskop lurked out of the wagon no less -- but if you get traction on Frogger I'll join you.

[chkflip]

What do you think of Titus? This feels a lot like the last game we all played together, but I think you died super early in that one and might not remember as much of it as I do.

[chkflip]

Time to trap Bingle.

Hey Bingle, how many scum are we likely dealing with in this setup?

What does this accomplish?

[chkflip]

He dipped out because he thought I was talking to him when I said "I wish you'd fucking play the game you signed up for" when I was actually talking to Pooky. I will neither consider that a moment of clarity, nor will I dismiss anything the slot said due to them not having the best home situation while the game went on. There were plenty of reasons for me to town read them throughout the game. I'm not going to dismiss shit because of an out-of-game situation that had no bearing on any of the slots other play.

[chkflip]

I don't think I can answer that without literally helping you on your scum game, which I think this might be. Some of which floats over from the previous slot holder. Sorry?

[chkflip]

Who needs umbrellas?

I can't =/= I'm not going to at this time.

I only have one vote, sunshine. We'll dance later.

[chkflip]

Who the fuck is Deimos?

[chkflip]

V
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Logicalicaltist
PookyTheMagicalBear
DrippingGoofball
Elsa Jay
Bingle
Doctor Drew
Galron
TemporalLich
Almost50
Vecna
username
pisskop
chkflip
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W

Alchemist21 - 3P

Sure thing.

Town

DGB
Pooky
Bingle
Froppy
Galron
Titus
Vecna
Chkflip
TL
Elsa Jay (Need Confirmation regarding Role)

Scum

3P

Alchemist

Confirm or Die

Thun

Your Turn.

Fascinating.

[chkflip]

I fucking hate this game.

[chkflip]

UNVOTE: TemporalLich

[chkflip]

VOTE: Galron

Sure. This'll happen.

[chkflip]

Claim!

We need to all start collectively paying more attention to this shit.

[chkflip]

That's the second or third claim he has demanded early.

But yeah go on and continue ignoring it. Seems legit.

[chkflip]

Hey Thun go ahead and fucking shoot me toNight I'm pretty done with this shit show.

[chkflip]

I'm literally the one that

No. Just no. I'm talking about your calls for players to claim way too fucking early, dude. I thought you may have also done so D1 but I couldn't find it on a quick skim. This is the second time today you've voted someone nowhere near elimination and asked them to claim.

It's mind-boggling, aggrivating, and quite frankly it's pissing me off.

Stop.

[chkflip]

Aw, I was really hoping this Elsa Jay theory would light up and they'd magically flip scum so Thun would shoot me and I could finally just fucking be done with it.

TL is E-2. Mmmmm yeah I'm not gonna do that now.

/heel turn

[chkflip]

That's AtE.

[chkflip]

UNVOTE: Galron

[chkflip]

What's different from what you're doing except TL doesn't want to die?

That's not how I'd personally react to being wagoned.

I'm not appealing to people's emotions, I'm just continuously bitching about the gamestate.

On what planet is that remotely the same thing?

[chkflip]

Mm so there was a third time that happened, Log just happened to do it twice. Go back and you'll see my confusion there. You don't get a pass for something I completely forgot you did. You got overlooked because overall you're pretty fucking forgettable.

[chkflip]

Also, and I know this is crazy, forgive me for hard focusing on the slot that claimed the same type of power as me, is conveniently on the right day to "prove it tonight," and was an overall shit show when if was pisskop at the reigns. Like holy fucking what are you on about mate.

[chkflip]

I think my trepidation with agreeing to that is multi-fold. First off, this is far and beyond a policy elimination. There have been several points during the game -- and I'm clearly not the only person who is seeing this -- where Lich has exhibited scum tells. AtE is just the one that has cropped up on this page. This isn't the first time he has done it. He has hidden behind the "you won't like my claim" defense for a while now. It's only NOW, after I've begun to dread this game, that he has parroted me (hey look another scum tell) on this point. Second, his voting pattern. Lich has shown that he will

literally put his vote anywhere

that isn't him and shows promise of rolling into more votes. I've recently started doing this myself, I'm aware, but what I haven't done is sit on the fence while doing it. Third, and really the most important part to bring it all home, is that most of the game isn't even fucking playing. It's incredibly frustrating to sit here and watch Pooky, DGB, Galron, Bingle, et fucking cetera do LITERALLY. FUCKING. NOTHING. They prodge, they chime in once every two fucking days at best, and then they just sit back again. Only recently has DGB actually given reads outside of the Alchemist bullshit and Pooky has done nothing. NOTHING. But yeah nah I should just be a happy little player and shimmy along, right? Not only no but FUCK no. This shit is unacceptable and if most of the scum team is sitting back in that shit? For a win? That's incredibly fucking pathetic.

[chkflip]

pretty fucking forgettable.

Pretty sure I have the lowest fluff percentage of anyone ITT, and I've been near constantly solving, but okay.

It definitely means asking for clarification from Vecna on what else he saw from you is an attack, targeted at you or otherwise.

I may be lumping you in with people in the "non-participant" category in error. It may or may not be because I read your posts, agree with them, and move on. Apologies.

[chkflip]

I was not aware what game Chkflip was referencing. I dont remember a game with the 3 of us in it. I really dont know how he views your meta, how he analyzes you, nada.

Were you not in the last Boon game with us?

Have I gone completely mental?

More at 11.

How I analyze Titus is forever changing because she's a savvy lawyer and if I have the hook I better be fucking ready for a fire fight because she brings it.

[chkflip]

Me regardless. I promise you won't die.

viewtopic.php?f=56&t=82397

This game, Vecna.

[chkflip]

tbf I'm not hard-line scum reading her either. It's just...

Titus is always scum. >_>

[chkflip]

Hm. Okay.

VOTE: Elsa Jay

It has been brought to my attention that I'm ignoring you. I wanted to hand wave it away as bullshit, but I know I can't because it's absolutely true. That one time you pocketed the fuck out of me, compounded by that one time we lost to Reck/Tripod scum give me mixed feelings about how to read you at all. So let's do this.

What are your reads?

What is your opinion of the gamestate?

Why are you only claiming Miller now instead of in post one?

How do you feel about the claims in this game?

[chkflip]

My reads are jumbled at the moment. No solid foundation anyway I look at it.

Give me three reads you have.

The gamestate gives way for continuously shifting wagons more then I usually see, though I blame that more on the active players ass disagreeing where to go.

Where do you believe we should go? Why?

Well I specifically claimed a Gel that isn't helpful to town but I never even claimed to be an IC once. I let day 1 ride like normal. Contriversal claims like that are better day 2 IMO since then you at least have a basis of who did what.

Is Gel in the wiki? I've never heard of it.

Claims are interesting I guess. I'm paying more attention to those day 3 with more results tho.

D3 should be fun. At least more fun than whatever this is. But I mean in general, what do you think of them beyond a blanket "interesting"? Do you take them at face value? Do you believe all of them? And I do mean _all_ of them?

[chkflip]

If someone votes him I'll claim intent.

[chkflip]

That still doesn't mean anything to me.

You're third party?

[chkflip]

I just looked it up. Not necessarily 3p but that's interesting.

Why did you claim?

[chkflip]

Gel is definitely a redneck thing. Can confirm.

Elsa I asked more questions please don't ignore me thanks.

[chkflip]

If this is redneck mafia, why is there so much goo?

Isn't FL constantly talking about goo?

I know that's meta beyond meta but it popped in my head.

[chkflip]

Elsa/LC/who/alsomaybewho DGB

[chkflip]

UNVOTE: Elsa Jay

Didn't realize who was on that wagon. Fuck that wagon.

im helpful!

TemporalLich (6): PookyTheMagicalBear, Bingle, DrippingGoofball, Thun, Alchemist, Froppy
Elsa Jay (3): TemporalLich, Logicalicaltist, Galron
Thun (2): Almost50, Galron
Froppy (1): Vecna

Not Voting (2): Elsa Jay, chkflip

With 14 alive, it takes 8 to blast someone!

We have <4 days

[chkflip]

Ah boogers Titus you should obv also be in the Not Voting category.

[chkflip]

Fucking Galron shouldn't be on two wagons either. His current vote is EJ.

[chkflip]

Oh yeah, scum's gonna quickhammer. On D2. With their whole ass squad alive.

P R E S S X T O D O U B T

[chkflip]

The only things that've changed from last I mentioned it is you and 50 have dropped down to nullscum.

[chkflip]

Mmmmmmhm.

[chkflip]

Ugh, more doubt on my LC read. Those posts are so so so bad

My reply was to this. I'm tired and didn't realize there was another page.

[chkflip]

VOTE: LC

VOTE: Elsa Jay

Neither of these are happening at this point I promise you. And I've been down for LC since fucking daystart.

[chkflip]

No you won't.

[chkflip]

I'm warning you right now, TL.

Do not fucking self vote.

[chkflip]

I've already claimed intent, bud.

[chkflip]

I'VE CLAIMED THAT, IF PLACED UP, AS IN IF YOU WERE E1, AS IN WITHIN HAMMER RANGE, AS IN I COULD FUCKING END YOU, AS IN I COULD BE THE FINAL VOTE

I WOULD DO SO

THAT CLEAR ENOUGH FOR YOU, SHITLORD

[chkflip]

Like

What's the fucking play here, exactly?

Is this some last ditch gotta try to look townie efforting bullshit?

[chkflip]

INTENT TO HAMMER

[chkflip]

Should

Should I just

Nahhhhh I'll wait

[chkflip]

[chkflip]

I fucking hate lolhammers dude I'm not gonna do it but hyping you up is fun.

[chkflip]

Oh my b I meant DGB but that's a very accurate post Bingle

[chkflip]

Temporal has been fellating the claimed third party all game.

Let's find out why.

So have I tho? Not FELLATING but like, defending.

TL/Log/Alchemist tho?

[chkflip]

I've asked you several times to play the fucking game you signed up for, so I'm certainly not about to listen your ass. Sorry not sorry.

[chkflip]

SO THERE ARE THREE VIG OR VIG-LIKE ROLES

IS WHAT YOU'RE TELLING ME

[chkflip]

Me, you, Thun.

Do keep up.

[chkflip]

I just made this a town role. I gave them mason partners, though, to help them.

VOTE: TemporalLich

Log is partner if this flips scum. They hard focused on me in fucking tandem at the beginning of the day. That's not coincidental.

Pedit: I already claimed modified vengeful town, yes.

I kill who kills me.

[chkflip]

I am glad some are coming around that Log is scum.

I was on Log is scum since the opening of toDay.

[chkflip]

Okay Lich what are you actually claiming in simple terms?

I predict who gets eliminated + they get eliminated =

I get a NK

Like

Bolded

is admitting they are scum.

Funny how you're trying so desperately to earn town points for this when this isn't at all how you reacted to Thun OR my claims.

Fascinating.

Thun. Please. You know what to do.

[chkflip]

But yeah four potential kills throughout a single night is fucking anarchy and this is beyond "Baker-level" shenanigans.

[chkflip]

We'll talk tomorrow, sunshine.

[chkflip]

It still both surprises me and doesn't that nobody looked at Thuns ISO.