Yggdrasil - Stratum FINAL -

[morph the cat]

greetings gentlebeings!

[morph the cat]

greetings fellow souls

VOTE: Bingle

RVS wagon go

I really want you to be town this game!

[morph the cat]

i need help deciding what video game i should play next. there is no joy in the world.

we can play mafia on the side too if you want, at least until Rune Factory 5 releases in English.

VOTE: Murdercat

Why did you change your vote?

[morph the cat]

Hello, Farkran here.

The game lore sounds like a d&d game, i like it! Also i am town and i idled last night.

hello Fark! i'm town this time! i've decided you are too so don't worry about convincing me if you are actually scum.

Yeah to be honest me too, i won't even try sorting you ever again because it'd be terrible. I will feel alone though, i want to be neighborized

I want to be a neighborizer.

We don't always get what we want. :/

[morph the cat]

Shiro, we'll be your Jibril.

Grace us with your wisdom.

[morph the cat]

Ok but actually tho in my experience a lot of the people who like to complain about the lol fluff posting of day 1 are scum. It's an easy entry for scum to make and has the bonus of actually being bad for town in that in general more discussion equals more potential signal even at the cost of more noise.

That is to say my vote was at least semi-serious.

I don't disagree, but I think given contextual clues that the vote on LLD was unwarranted.

[morph the cat]

can you magnify those contextual clues with your top hat please

Viking hats unfortunately lack much glass.

[morph the cat]

I have two by now-
Shining, sparkling shows of town
The ball’s in your court.

If this is a posting requirement I love it.

@anya, we also love our stripes.

[morph the cat]

In the spirit of that one Mastina post about helping advance dialogue by stating WHY you disagree with ABC instead of countering with DEF, Shea:

LLD's statement is something she has made as both alignments in her recent 2020-2021 games, and she suffered heavily as town in Xenoblade II from being unable to keep up with the slog that was caused. (And in the case of that game, the slog was me, I was the bad one on a shitton of painkiller opioids after surgery...)

I see LLD using her "gravitas" as far as her reputation for MURDERTUNNELZZZZZZZZ to threaten people to keep on track perfectly fine. Did she need to say it? Probably not. Do I scum read her explicitly for saying it, no. Would I scum read some random person with a join date of yesterday for stating it? Possibly.

P-edit: Sure Shea. Cabd is Neuter, ffery is spay.

~Neuter

[morph the cat]

oh also can hydras try to sign off with which head makes the post? That would be helpful for me, a person who really doesn't work well with reading hydras.

If shea has drawn scum
It is not with a hydra
Low bud equity

Lowkey parental disapproval of you after how this went for you in Perpetual MYLIM that you still trot it out.

[morph the cat]

oh also can hydras try to sign off with which head makes the post? That would be helpful for me, a person who really doesn't work well with reading hydras.

If shea has drawn scum
It is not with a hydra
Low bud equity

Lowkey parental disapproval of you after how this went for you in Perpetual MYLIM that you still trot it out.

~Neuter

[morph the cat]

But if you saw that
Not one, but two did in fact
Replace as scum- cat.

Sure, but it's not statistically important enough to bring out on early day one, with zero replacements, and only two hydrae in the game.

~Neuter.

[morph the cat]

Shea I feel so unloved. I made you an entire post from the bottom of my heart and was repaid in crickets.

~Neuter

[morph the cat]

unwnd is totally stoned face for this. I joked if I should roll a d20 for a skill check on my night action... Didn't even get a "lol" out of them.

Anyways.

I have a pretty questionable innate action

, and even more questionably use SP skill.

My innate skill is I can check people's current HP. I checked Save The Dragons last night (random.org). They have 3 HP. Comparatively, I have 5 HP.

My other ability, which costs 2 SP is to check a target and see if they are using SP as well the same night. I didn't use it last night.

My "class," is called Sovereign. I'm royalty or something.

This is town.

Folks who were in FGO, this is the "Master upgrade clause" thing all over again.

~neuter

[morph the cat]

Shea I feel so unloved. I made you an entire post from the bottom of my heart and was repaid in crickets.

~Neuter

What would that be

109

[morph the cat]

Toogeloo is probably town.

Thinking what we're thinking when we're thinking it. <3

[morph the cat]

If anyone wants to suggest the best uses for my abilities, I'm all ears.

you have an investigation and can check if players are lying. call out liars.

or you could just claim all invests immediately and make sure your role has zero utility, while outing the HP of other random players and making them easier to kill? i suppose.

from what i gathered theres no reason people would lie about SP abilities so don't think that will be really useful "invest"
unless im misunderstanding role.

i mean if i was scum who used an SP action to debuff a towny i would like to keep that a secret, personally.

So, hypothetically speaking, as town you would have announced that you debuffed us?

~notneuter

[morph the cat]

What is the town motivation for just claiming like that?

Shea, I know you were not in it, but something INCREDIBLY similar to this was used to clear LLD in FGO mafia (I was the mod) where all of town had a thing, but didn't know that the others had the thing, and somebody stepped forward confident that THE THING gave them ultimate cosmic duty to get an upgrade/shiny.

That is how I read Toog's play.

"I have this shiny thing and it seems unique and suspicious enough to me that I feel the need to claim about it, lest somebody investigate me and it comes out as a wasted fake guilty gotcha"

So I'm town reading it more than just a miller claim.

~Neuter

[morph the cat]

I'm sure cabd is going to try because that's what cabd does but I'm not participating in it.

Not at all.

I don't intend to encourage anyone else to go down this path.

It was a one time use thing, and it appears Toog used it.

I agree that unwnd likely designed roles that punish massclaim.


~Neuter

[morph the cat]

"I have this shiny thing and it seems unique and suspicious enough to me that I feel the need to claim about it, lest somebody investigate me and it comes out as a wasted fake guilty gotcha"

That doesn't seem like what they said, though? They didn't say anything about getting investigated.

It's amazing what the power of thinking about another player's mindset and projecting a "town toog model" can do, isn't it?

~Neuter

[morph the cat]

Uwnd has waxed poetic about the setup, and I doubt bork let anything breaking through.

Breaking opens and semi opens yeah sure.

This is a fully hidden extremely mechanically complex theme, no thanks.

(Although in fairness it worked out for dumb reasons for your among us town)

~neuter

[morph the cat]

Yes, hence "dumb reasons"

[morph the cat]

Howdy all clodpoles
I see we got our jester
With cockroach lifespan

Guilloitina though-
Very off from xenoblade
Could he be town here?

more data needed
but it could be so, maybe
non-xeno meta?

[morph the cat]

It's amazing what the power of thinking about another player's mindset and projecting a "town toog model" can do, isn't it?

I mean, it's plausible that what you said is the reason, but it doesn't seem like the only possible reason. Why not ask them instead of jumping to conclusions?

I rather like you this game.

I hope I'm not over-adjusting from the last one.

[morph the cat]

VOTE: NotMafia

kill all robot alien monster goats

VOTE: anya

My vca is part robot this game.

So many things to talk about, and you chose this one :/

~Neuter

[morph the cat]

Loud modposting mailman or something?

Not really relevant, it will resolve itself, still 7 scum to find in total.

~Neuter

[morph the cat]

hey cabd shoot me a 6 player scum team pls.

I've got more townreads than scumreads, so you'd be getting a list of who I think doesn't go in the pool of 6/7, that still okay?

~Neuter

[morph the cat]

Speaking of Xenoblade, how i wish Cabd is here and randed town, so she/he can do here what they did there and i can just chill, enjoy the game and sheep their reads.

I'm literally right here.

~Neuter

[morph the cat]

when i'm scum

We had a very high opinion of you as Lancer!

[morph the cat]

hey cabd shoot me a 6 player scum team pls.

I've got more townreads than scumreads, so you'd be getting a list of who I think doesn't go in the pool of 6/7, that still okay?

~Neuter

I mean I'm not going to vote u for it

This didn't get lost, we're just chewing over how many folks belong in the townbin.

~Neuter

[morph the cat]

hey cabd shoot me a 6 player scum team pls.

I've got more townreads than scumreads, so you'd be getting a list of who I think doesn't go in the pool of 6/7, that still okay?

~Neuter

I mean I'm not going to vote u for it

This didn't get lost, we're just chewing over how many folks belong in the townbin.

~Neuter

{Toog, White Fire}
{TSQ, S_S, Dunn, Notsci}

This is our "not touching today" list. There are others that are townreads but in much lower tiers that we won't be espousing just yet.

~Both Heads


P.S. Bell gets three posts to be a very town Mexican fast food chain before we murder him.

[morph the cat]

hey cabd shoot me a 6 player scum team pls.

this feels more like a 8 or 9 wolf game personally

maybe there's multiple packs

Are you trying to fake a town slip?

I really like this post.

Yes, but we were hoping somebody we didn't already town read would make it, as to get new data.

Toog's already just town.

~Neuter

[morph the cat]

That was 3 posts. Bell must die.

[morph the cat]

That was 3 posts. Bell must die.

Por que?

hey cabd shoot me a 6 player scum team pls.

I've got more townreads than scumreads, so you'd be getting a list of who I think doesn't go in the pool of 6/7, that still okay?

~Neuter

I mean I'm not going to vote u for it

This didn't get lost, we're just chewing over how many folks belong in the townbin.

~Neuter

{Toog, White Fire}
{TSQ, S_S, Dunn, Notsci}

This is our "not touching today" list. There are others that are townreads but in much lower tiers that we won't be espousing just yet.

~Both Heads

P.S. Bell gets three posts to be a very town Mexican fast food chain before we murder him.

[morph the cat]

Seven? I'm pretty damn sure there's only six scum in this game.

Third parties are scum until explicitly proven otherwise.

Unless you're claiming town-siding third party, it's 7.

[morph the cat]

pagegotop

Helluva egopost.

#legend

~Recent posts were all Neuter.

[morph the cat]

I wish that I had
Time of my youth, to F5
Bell and I are lost

youth, wasted on young
Is there significance to
a Bell-mention here?

Do you think you have
towned hard enough at this point
for a morphread: town?

[morph the cat]

A: I called it.

B: You didn't need to do that.

C: Holy fuck.

d: I need to urgently mod meta now.

[morph the cat]

Unwnd has town-siding third parties in his mod meta and I was trying to feel you out you REALLY didn't need to claim that here. Now you're gonna go the Oil Tycoons in DBZ route.

Welcome one and all to..

The 2189th Cell Games

Spoiler:

Combatants

Dunnstral

ManWithNoName

mastina
Battle Mage
Oil Tycoons (Syryana and Nachomamma8)

Gamma Emerald

Finral
Superbowl9
Firebringer

kookiemonster (JohnnyFarrar and Noraa)

Gypyx
Flea The Magician

Sugar Cain (Momrangal and Nero Cain)

MathBlade

Alive

Dunnstral
Firebringer

kookiemonster (JohnnyFarrar and Noraa

Gypyx

Dead

mastina -

Teen Gohan, Fighter Backup

. (Killed Night 1)
Titus -

Vegeta, Fighter Super-elite

.

(Self-destructed Day 1)

Oil Tycoons -

Jimmy Firecracker, Normal Human Announcer

.

(Lost Day 2)

Finral -

Was ???

(Went away Night 2)
Bell -

King Kai, Fighter Supreme Kop

.

(Succumbed Day 3)
Guillotina -

Bulma, Anti-Fighter Genius

. (Eliminated Day 3)
Battle Mage -

Android 18, Fighter Vanilla

.

(Killed Night 3)
Superbowl9 -

Chi-Chi, Anti-Fighter Mother

.

(Eliminated Day 4)
Flea The Magician -

Future Trunks, Fighter Time Protector

.

(Killed Night 4)
MathBlade -

Ox-King, Anti-Fighter Goon

(Endgamed Day 5).

They had a survivor-esque wincon and could have won with town, but chose to not side with them and died after outing.

[morph the cat]

Spoiler: mastina claim

Unless you're claiming town-siding third party, it's 7.

Oh what the hell I'm probably not any worse off for claiming it since I bet the playerlist would be able to tell I'm not town and would wagon me for that anyway where I'm damned if I do damned if I don't, wagoned for not being town if I don't claim, wagoned for not being town if I do. (Meaning there's a high chance I don't win here even tho I am in fact fully benign.)

I am the third party.

I'm an Arcanist.

My non-SP ability is Charm Eye. I target a player and they are Charmed. (No clue what Charmed means, my role PM doesn't specify.) Charming counts as a form of marking. (And is the only form of marking I have.)

My 1-SP ability is Chain Circle. I bind the target, negating all support done to them--useful for the town if I target scum, but harmful to the town if I target town, because it's by my understanding basically negating buffs to the target. Preventing scum buffs pro-town, preventing town buffs anti-town.

My 2-SP ability is Nerve Circle. I ensnare my target in a circle--anyone targeting that player takes 2 HP in damage. This basically turns my target into a form of PGO. Incredibly pro-town if I target a player scum target as it damages scum. Incredibly anti-town if I target a player town target.

My 3-SP ability is Curse Circle. I curse my target to be unable to be healed by utility abilities. Again, incredibly pro-town if I target scum to stop them from healing, but incredibly anti-town if I target town to stop them from healing.

My fourth ability, Dispel, 2-SP, is dispelling the curse circle. Doing so heals me for 2 HP.

My passive, Enlightenment, makes me gain 1 SP every time I successfully mark someone.

I win when I mark 5 players. (Which means had I gotten a N0 action in I could've won on D5 but now it's pushed back to D6 at the earliest.) A target doesn't need to be alive to count. So basically if nothing causes my marks to fail I automatically would win on D6 if I got five marks off.

But, *shrug*, "mastina just admitted to not being town", "mastina isn't town", "mastina could be lying", "mastina might end the game in a solo win", "mastina could be scum fakeclaiming 3p", etc. Pick your choice in ways where I'm guaranteed to die before I win, likely by the town elimination.

Since I've taken the "oh what the hell" approach of claiming, may as well go on to scumhunting now.
VOTE: morph the cat

Call it gut if you must but the insistence on hunting 3p as scum pinged me as probably being scum. As the third party in question who knew that I wasn't malevolent, the odd obsession with insisting the game had seven scum and hunting for seven scum stuck out as being a scum mindset.

lucky(?) for you, THIS head has a soft spot 3rd parties that say they can townside. I don't think you have quite the bizarro meta-memory that I have, but you may recall that from the days of yore.

We're looking for the Oil Tycoons role PM in the DBZ game, but something 3rd Party JOATish sounds familiar.

[morph the cat]

I found it. They could win either with town as a suvrivor, or as the last player standing. They couldn't win alongside mafia.

[morph the cat]

A re-read of the posts and chats Unwnd has made about his moderation style, as well as existing mod meta, has us both fine for letting Mastina be for now.

6 left.

[morph the cat]

9. Please keep your posts from reaching spam. Be considerate of how much you are posting. I'll warn you if I think you're overdoing it. If I have to warn you again, it will be a MOD VOTE.

Now that things have run their course, @Lexi:

Mod agrees with you and has your back.

[morph the cat]

I am caught up to here, my only strong opinion at the moment is a decent town lean on Toog because Toog (in my experience) is good at mech claims as scum and would probably prefer to be flexible instead of instaclaiming. Toog is very good at scum though, so I'm not 100% of the way there.

I mean yeah that's consensus now try again but with an actually trying take because I expect at least that much effort out of you. If toog is your only 90%, i want to hear about your 80 and 70s.

~Neuter

[morph the cat]

Shea, tell them not to expect stuff from me D1 because of Among Us

Death curse, actually.

~Neuter

[morph the cat]

That sucks that the cool 3rd party mechanic died.
But on the bright side the 3rd party is dead and now only the scum are left and we can have a gold ol rpg battle to the death.

You're well past the 3rd post and nothing you've said or done is moving you out of murder territory :~(

[morph the cat]

I'm not sure I did stuff D1 in Death Curse either tbh

I found you very good while observing your day one. Maybe those in the game felt otherwise but they're not chiming in.

Try for us.

[morph the cat]

271 from Fark felt genuine to me

271 is completely pointless

Feels like the sort of thing you'd put in a scum pt if you had one

A near identical set of statements exists in the Morph discord chat, it's something I expect pretty much everyone thought immediately. Posting it instead doesn't change it, and it should probably be ignored.

[morph the cat]

Speaking of obvtown
If I’m more town with haiku
I will help kill you

town

may

pierce the veil
haiku can cut like a blade
or obscure and pale

Do obvtown, though.
There are things we could convey
with deepening trust

[morph the cat]

I find your opinion on Fark to be window dressing Murdercat.

oh hell yes lace into him

UNLEASH

AVENGER

BELL

Stop with the melodrama. It ain't legit.

Titus... you were in that game.

viewtopic.php?p=12190718#p12190718

Servant

Avenger

, as played by Bell, wins posthumously.

[morph the cat]

If you’re not sure how to read me-
I’d suggest giving morph BOP
If they say kill me
Towns what you’ll see
Then send them to the dead PT

Reading is hard.

hey cabd shoot me a 6 player scum team pls.

I've got more townreads than scumreads, so you'd be getting a list of who I think doesn't go in the pool of 6/7, that still okay?

~Neuter

I mean I'm not going to vote u for it

This didn't get lost, we're just chewing over how many folks belong in the townbin.

~Neuter

{Toog, White Fire}
{TSQ, S_S, Dunn,

Notsci

}

This is our "not touching today" list. There are others that are townreads but in much lower tiers that we won't be espousing just yet.

~Both Heads


P.S. Bell gets three posts to be a very town Mexican fast food chain before we murder him.

[morph the cat]

Do you think me naive?
Trust is earned through blood and sweat.
You two have a ways to go
After 2181 and Tenet.

It’s funny that you don’t
See each tonal market hit
Despite my posting mixup
Reading my tones easy as shit.

you hit the markers I seek
more with rhyme than with meter
haiku are meek
couplets are neater

When cobra kai, you gave me room
to work out your play
I'll give you the same boon
and for now, go on my way

And with that comes the end of conversational poetry.

[morph the cat]

He did in Tenet
To both Bell and myself, yes.
He won’t try again.

I mean, I absolutely would again, your early tilt paid dividends in tenet. But in that instance I let others do it for us.

I'm not calling Bell scum, but he's yet to hit the cloud 9 joy and exuberance that a town bell firing on all cylinders can hit.

[morph the cat]

He did in Tenet
To both Bell and myself, yes.
He won’t try again.

I mean, I absolutely would again, your early tilt paid dividends in tenet. But in that instance I let others do it for us.

I'm not calling Bell scum, but he's yet to hit the cloud 9 joy and exuberance that a town bell firing on all cylinders can hit.

I non ironically call upon him to summon his Avenger persona.

~Neuter

[morph the cat]

his post

Who is the "he" here?

[morph the cat]

Bell, your new avatar confuses me. What happened to the happy town cartoon doggos?

[morph the cat]

Quitting time in Hawaii is about an hour from now. Hope to see a certain archery-using goddess alt show up.

[morph the cat]

This avatar is conceptualization from the game disco elysium. He is one component of a detective's mind.
It says some interesting stuff and I liked how they wrote the process of conceptualizing a world through the mind of an amnesiac.

I keep reading your posts through my Titus-model and it's fucking with me.

[morph the cat]

Why would you try to read me using a titus-model?

Your avatars are similar at a glance in low lighting environments.

[morph the cat]

Why would you try to read me using a titus-model?

Your avatars are similar at a glance in low lighting environments.

That sounds like something an old person would say.

You have a kid and it's all downhill to the retirement home from there.

Pulling aside this convo, what ARE your takes this game now that you're settled in and posting?

[morph the cat]

I've been reading them in literally irl Titus's voice until I realize.

But I'll adjust, eventually.

[morph the cat]

Bell you need to come to Chicago or I need to stalk you when I next fly to the valley to rectify this and give me your IRL voice.

[morph the cat]

Bell called me poser
I was going to suggest
He come to AX

I mean to be fair unwnd isn't a huge fan of posting restrictions, he thinks they're unfair to the spirit of the game.

I'm gonna let you fake-PR your heart out though, ffery finds it adorkable and I don't mind it.

[morph the cat]

Notsci is clearly crumbing his real role as "chef" by having his phone caps ranodm words and also talking about his IRL job of chef.

Too soon~?

[morph the cat]

Don't like the jump on Shea attitude.

Maybe I missed it, where exactly did we apparently do this?

[morph the cat]

I've already got several reads I'm pretty happy about which is more than i was expecting by page 20.

Mood.

This game is moving at a fairly fast pace, but the amount of unreadable garbage has been kept to a minimum.

[morph the cat]

I like disco Elysium

Me too, I could gush about it for up to an hour! Are you scum?
Roll for initiative.

Nah. And honestly i found your characterization of me as not hunting as kind of nonsense. I've already got several reads I'm pretty happy about which is more than i was expecting by page 20.

What are those reads and why do you have them?


Pedit: I take offense to the insinuation that all of my posts aren't unreadable garbage.

Minimum != 0

[morph the cat]

I could see cabd scum but honestly I'm just so fucking bad at reading hydras that I'm probably not even going to try with those slots and hope they get sorted for me

Well, with the exception of about three posts, it's been all me so far.

So treat it as a cabd slot from today's posting, no need to fall back onto the hydra unreadable clause.

[morph the cat]

Bell is correct, i am bored. my fervor for this game had a heart attack and died. :<

i'll get it back.

What caused this?

A very nice spot!
Let me answer with question-
What’s the same for each?

Haiku is middle. rhyming couplets are right. Limericks are left.

[morph the cat]

I still believe morph to be scum, and this has only intensified recently, despite putting minimal effort into this game.

If you put more effort in, maybe you'll read us correctly.

Or maybe your read is a fabulism.

I could see cabd scum but honestly I'm just so fucking bad at reading hydras that I'm probably not even going to try with those slots and hope they get sorted for me

Well, with the exception of about three posts, it's been all me so far.

So treat it as a cabd slot from today's posting, no need to fall back onto the hydra unreadable clause.

I guess that means you deny the insinuation that you posting about food means you're scum? Okay.
But I certainly wasn't talking big, I was just mentioning something I remembered and sort of poked a the memory by posting it.

I was referring to the statement that i was less hunting and more trying to say opinions. I thought that was you.

If you made a food based read about me i missed it.

No, that was me. I was talking about notsci with the food stuff.
I thought he just posted about food as an ironic call back to the food tell meme that I think started with Nacho posting about food once or Nacho voted someone who posed abou food. I forgot. Anyway he food poser was scum and people didn't take the food tell seriously, but ironically took it seriously.

Yep, my t key needs help. To be fair, hat read of you shea, was based on up to page 6ish? I was on. Give or take.

That was my hydra and as I've said before Nacho did not originate the food tell meme.

LLD: Re morph-
Give him time to catch us scum
If not, then he dies

THEM.

Also. I've about had enough BOP for one year.

~spayhalf

[morph the cat]

Vote option 1

[morph the cat]

MOD EVENT

> As you venture forth, you spot a humanoid figure in the distance. It seems you are not the only person who is traversing this stratum. It looks to be a average looking man, with normal attire fitting of a honest's day work. The man notices you and speaks.

"Hello! Fancy seeing someone else here. I am looking for my lost chickens. They must've somehow gotten all the way into this here forest. Quite a bother I'd say. Would you help me?"

(1) Help the man find his chickens
(2) Ignore him and say you are busy
(3) Hunt the chickens for livestock, dinner is served!

Votecount 1.2

Adventurers

:

Morph the Cat (fferyllt/Cabd) [1]: Bingle
Lady Lambdadelta [1]: Thestatusquo
Guillotina [3]: Ircher, Farkran, Anya
Thestatusquo [1]: MURDERCAT
MURDERCAT [1]: White Fire
Anya [2]: WhemeStar, Titus
Flea the Magician [5]: Dunnstral, White Fire, Bell, Sigmund, Chara
Dunnstral [1]: Flea the Magician
Titus [1]: Guillotina
Sigmund [1]: Save the Dragons

Not Voting: (7) Something_Smart, Toogeloo, notscience, Artemiana, NDMath, Lady Lambdadetla, Not_Mafia

With 24 alive it takes 13 to eliminate. Stratum 1 ends in (expired on 2021-06-04 22:25:25).

@unwnd

Has Not_Mafia stolen our vote?

Just mod error. Lot of people to keep track of. Sorry!

[morph the cat]

didn't vote

Did... did you expect us to vote?

I mean I get you don't like KNOW us. But holy shit our vote is like defcon fire the nukes level of scum reads from us. We won't drop a vote this game until we're damn sure of it. I was, and still am, town reading Shea as of that post. (Lightly to start, more now) You mistaking my tone and read there is your own problem.

~Neuter

[morph the cat]

didn't vote

Did... did you expect us to vote?

I mean I get you don't like KNOW us. But holy shit our vote is like defcon fire the nukes level of scum reads from us. We won't drop a vote this game until we're damn sure of it. I was, and still am, town reading Shea as of that post. (Lightly to start, more now) You mistaking my tone and read there is your own problem.

~Neuter

CABDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDddd

i'm asking for your attention please validate me senpai

You have ffery-attention! Will that do?

[morph the cat]

didn't vote

Did... did you expect us to vote?

I mean I get you don't like KNOW us. But holy shit our vote is like defcon fire the nukes level of scum reads from us. We won't drop a vote this game until we're damn sure of it. I was, and still am, town reading Shea as of that post. (Lightly to start, more now) You mistaking my tone and read there is your own problem.

~Neuter

Is this how you usually play? Or is this the hydra thing?

Both of us play that way independently, but also en hydra.

[morph the cat]

didn't vote

Did... did you expect us to vote?

I mean I get you don't like KNOW us. But holy shit our vote is like defcon fire the nukes level of scum reads from us. We won't drop a vote this game until we're damn sure of it. I was, and still am, town reading Shea as of that post. (Lightly to start, more now) You mistaking my tone and read there is your own problem.

~Neuter

CABDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDddd

i'm asking for your attention please validate me senpai

You have ffery-attention! Will that do?

ye, it will

this game is clownfuck central and our town sided third party just got themselves yeeted out of a game

so i feel like i have to actually try but i really don't want to try?

so tell me what to look at and i'll tell you if it's scum or not.

like seriously quote posts at me and i'll tell you town or scum just based on hard LLD mind powers.

that's my energy level rn lol

We're both here right now.

here is our townlist from earlier:

{Toog, White Fire}
{TSQ, S_S, Dunn, Notsci}

[morph the cat]

Remember how sage FB-town was in tenet and how we REALLY didn't want him getting traction instead of just sheeping you? He reads that way here too.

Toog townslipped in our collective opinion, the same way it went down with you in the master uprgade clause thing in FGO.

[morph the cat]

didn't vote

Did... did you expect us to vote?

I mean I get you don't like KNOW us. But holy shit our vote is like defcon fire the nukes level of scum reads from us. We won't drop a vote this game until we're damn sure of it. I was, and still am, town reading Shea as of that post. (Lightly to start, more now) You mistaking my tone and read there is your own problem.

~Neuter

CABDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDddd

i'm asking for your attention please validate me senpai

You have ffery-attention! Will that do?

ye, it will

this game is clownfuck central and our town sided third party just got themselves yeeted out of a game

so i feel like i have to actually try but i really don't want to try?

so tell me what to look at and i'll tell you if it's scum or not.

like seriously quote posts at me and i'll tell you town or scum just based on hard LLD mind powers.

that's my energy level rn lol

Have a look at Bingle's 10-post ISO? viewtopic.php?p=12793622&user_select%5B ... #p12793622

[morph the cat]

I could see cabd scum but honestly I'm just so fucking bad at reading hydras that I'm probably not even going to try with those slots and hope they get sorted for me

Well, with the exception of about three posts, it's been all me so far.

So treat it as a cabd slot from today's posting, no need to fall back onto the hydra unreadable clause.

Ok but that's not going to be true long term.

This seems like a really disingenuous argument honestly.

I was taking your prior post about seeing cabdscum to be a statement that you were scumreading me based upon today's posting. I was telling you that you didn't need to add a subnote that "maybe ffery though" if that was the case, as her contributions up to that post was minimal.


Make more sense?

[morph the cat]

The Bell tolls town.

~spay

[morph the cat]

You dont believe your read if you are town, hence my vote is sticking on you.

Can you walk me through the logical pathway traversed to tell them this?

[morph the cat]

The Bell tolls town.

~spay

The voice of reason
I was leaning here as well
But I still waffled.

I waffle about the space where Bell's scum game lives, worrying that it has expanded.

This play is well beyond my thoughts about where and how his scum game expands.

[morph the cat]

Or maybe your read is a fabulism.

Nah, just fabulous.

Also, the you not voting shea thing was only ping one. what about the you dancing around the mastina bit? Are you going to argue that either ffery or cabd would not meta dive unwnd as scum, or that scum backing off from mastina as 3p is probably what happens?

Neither of those are things outside either range, for either of us.

Not sure what you mean by "dancing" but we have an extremely proven track record of soft spots for third parties that can townside.

[morph the cat]

Or maybe your read is a fabulism.

Nah, just fabulous.

Also, the you not voting shea thing was only ping one. what about the you dancing around the mastina bit? Are you going to argue that either ffery or cabd would not meta dive unwnd as scum, or that scum backing off from mastina as 3p is probably what happens?

We'd definitely metadive any mod as either alignment.

For me, the difference is in what hits the thread vs what stays locked in scumchat. Cabd plays scum on a very different level than I do, though.

We also have fairly different immediate reactions to 3p claims, shaped by very different offsite experiences with/as indies.

You can do better than call us scum for extremely NAI behaviors.

[morph the cat]

Legitimately, I think we should leave LLD to be solved by scum.

There's likely a SK which means she's probably not going to endgame and even if she is scum getting that lim is going to be a gigantic PITA. If we just assume she's town that should save me a lot of effort.

This is worded super weird. The rest of it clarifies the position, but the wording feels so stiff?

Like it almost feels more like scum giving a public reason for why their team can avoid interacting with me, especially when I'm so low ebb, to avoid waking the sleeping birb?

I don't like it. The rest of the iso is very empty too, lots of stuff that smells funky but it relatively harmless.

My read GTH is scum.

Morphhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

We heard you. I gave you a list of names I townread to confirm/deny.

[morph the cat]

Call it birb-girl's early worm homework.

[morph the cat]

unwnd is totally stoned face for this. I joked if I should roll a d20 for a skill check on my night action... Didn't even get a "lol" out of them.

Anyways. I have a pretty questionable innate action, and even more questionably use SP skill.

My innate skill is I can check people's current HP. I checked Save The Dragons last night (random.org). They have 3 HP. Comparatively, I have 5 HP.

My other ability, which costs 2 SP is to check a target and see if they are using SP as well the same night. I didn't use it last night.

My "class," is called Sovereign. I'm royalty or something.

[morph the cat]

This is the FGO-LLD-BERSERKER esque post.

[morph the cat]

Legitimately, I think we should leave LLD to be solved by scum.

There's likely a SK which means she's probably not going to endgame and even if she is scum getting that lim is going to be a gigantic PITA. If we just assume she's town that should save me a lot of effort.

This is worded super weird. The rest of it clarifies the position, but the wording feels so stiff?

Like it almost feels more like scum giving a public reason for why their team can avoid interacting with me, especially when I'm so low ebb, to avoid waking the sleeping birb?

I don't like it. The rest of the iso is very empty too, lots of stuff that smells funky but it relatively harmless.

My read GTH is scum.

Morphhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Your thoughts scare me because I feel like I could easily tip into tunneling Bingle and I don't want to do that less than 12 hours into a game.

Is Bingle's rather singleminded focus on us alignment indicative for him?

[morph the cat]

You can do better than call us scum for extremely NAI behaviors.

I can. I can also poke you until you do things that are actually AI.

Also, pretty sure you know this (or at least Cabd does) but this is a public Jingle alt and I have at least a little familiarity with both of you.

Your lack of reading the stuff we've done that is alignment indicative doesn't mean the stuff we've done is not.

Whatever.

[morph the cat]

You can do better than call us scum for extremely NAI behaviors.

I can. I can also poke you until you do things that are actually AI.

Also, pretty sure you know this (or at least Cabd does) but this is a public Jingle alt and I have at least a little familiarity with both of you.

Yes I am aware.

We are doing AI things. Well, I am, and I'll vouch for neuterhalf. I've seen his role PM.

[morph the cat]

But if we can't get in "answer the same post from two different heads simultaneously" cuteposting in, what's even the point of playing this game, Lexi?

[morph the cat]

Notsci is doing a poetry self-imposed PR. I can collect those posts and see what you think next.

[morph the cat]

Notsci is doing a poetry self-imposed PR. I can collect those posts and see what you think next.

you fuckin' hate me don't you

you're gonna wall post a fucking bunch of notty poems and go "okay read that you bitch"

fuck you lol

<3

[morph the cat]

FireBringer ISO is like 50 posts but the meaty ones are the ones that matter.


If you can effort ONE read for me, it's that one that I want affirmed.

[morph the cat]

Spoiler: Collection for a red birb

Ok but actually tho in my experience a lot of the people who like to complain about the lol fluff posting of day 1 are scum. It's an easy entry for scum to make and has the bonus of actually being bad for town in that in general more discussion equals more potential signal even at the cost of more noise.

That is to say my vote was at least semi-serious.

Hmm. I disagree, but i find this post very towny.

Pretty sure this is NAI for Shea

Titus what if i told u im gonna call u town all game

I'd worry given my posts match my health, barely not vomiting.

Okay then i will do so =)

Fire why you wanna townread me?

Odds are in my favor ur town. U get scumread too often in games and i liked ur response.
Plus i think it would be amusing to see if i can get u paranoid.

Ok but actually tho in my experience a lot of the people who like to complain about the lol fluff posting of day 1 are scum. It's an easy entry for scum to make and has the bonus of actually being bad for town in that in general more discussion equals more potential signal even at the cost of more noise.

That is to say my vote was at least semi-serious.

Hmm. I disagree, but i find this post very towny.

Pretty sure this is NAI for Shea

You know, I kind of want to dig into this.

This is something I faced a lot in team mafia where I would do townie things that are in my town meta and people would be like "well this is NAI for Shea." and honestly its kind of frustrating. I know I'm good at scum and I know I'm good at replicating my town game, but at some point you can look at the motivation for my points and make a judgement call about them. Just saying "this is NAI" is lazy and doesn't really seem like much of an attempt at solving. I am solveable, everyone is.

Not to be all LAMIST but solve me, don't be apathetic about it. Look into the why of my posts.

Ohh are we going to 1v1 this early? I am not gonna be apathetic to u. I think im actually pretty good at reading u. i read u correctly in 2 team mafias tho i think i told norwee u were town in last one so i guess wrong on that.

Anyways im not gonna shout down all reads on u but im def gonna challenge anything i don't think doesn't mean what a person thinks it means.
So we can fite it out all u want but im not being apathetic about u buddy.

Hot take: Chara is scum.

Notsci im not gonna read a single of ur post when u do this gimmick.

Hot take: Chara is scum.

hotter take: Fire is town but is scared of me. <3

Bigger take: Town Chara would not be townreading me this fast.

If anyone wants to suggest the best uses for my abilities, I'm all ears.

I frankly don't even know how im using my abilities so no

If anyone wants to suggest the best uses for my abilities, I'm all ears.

you have an investigation and can check if players are lying. call out liars.

or you could just claim all invests immediately and make sure your role has zero utility, while outing the HP of other random players and making them easier to kill? i suppose.

from what i gathered theres no reason people would lie about SP abilities so don't think that will be really useful "invest"
unless im misunderstanding role.

What is the town motivation for just claiming like that?

Shea, I know you were not in it, but something INCREDIBLY similar to this was used to clear LLD in FGO mafia (I was the mod) where all of town had a thing, but didn't know that the others had the thing, and somebody stepped forward confident that THE THING gave them ultimate cosmic duty to get an upgrade/shiny.

That is how I read Toog's play.

"I have this shiny thing and it seems unique and suspicious enough to me that I feel the need to claim about it, lest somebody investigate me and it comes out as a wasted fake guilty gotcha"

So I'm town reading it more than just a miller claim.

~Neuter

The levels of meta play going through ur head. Fascinating

reads:
titus town
morph the cat very likely town
toog likely town
chara scum

anyways going back to work cya laterzs

i have a strong gut feeling that flea is scum more so than my gut feeling on chara.
MY GUT TELLS ME THIS IS THE PATH FORWARD

FOLLOW THE DOG GUT. IT WILL LEAD US TO VICTORY

If you’re not sure how to read me-
I’d suggest giving morph BOP
If they say kill me
Towns what you’ll see
Then send them to the dead PT

this is also prolly good advice.

Flea is literally just buddying/interacting with thread with 0 hunting. how do i need to point this out to people.

I think it's day 1 of day 1. Someones getting wagoned and I'm as good as any.

I disagree because, to be honest, you are a possible elimination target if you are town. I think you tend to flail a little bit when you get close to lim. So I worry about a wagon being formed on you without good justification.

Either way, I get to come back when I'm a little more sane and look at the wagon and its formation, see who did what when and where. Then you get more AI stuff from me and how I approach it. Win Win.

u make it sound like u want a wagon on u. Which I press X to doubt.

Doesn't matter who it's on, I just want a wagon to form for me to dissect.

last time i played with u and pushed u, u got extremely annoyed and were heavy into dissecting me. this time u seem not even interested. why is that

I mean, the changing of styles
Should have been everyone’s first clue
But I’m kinda disappointed the only
People townreading me are you two

random question: r u right aligning on purpose sometimes or does it mean something or what

Bell is correct, i am bored. my fervor for this game had a heart attack and died. :<

i'll get it back.

Should have asked me to make a wish on the dragon to revive it.

[morph the cat]

This is one of the "not as concrete reads" I alluded to earlier. I don't get good vibes from FB.

Again, the hydra thing, but I feel like almost every post so far has been FB and not shiro. Or at least I read them all in my head in a more FB tone of voice.

Did I mention I fucking hate hydras?

I don't think shiro has posted yet, so yeah this is a Firebringer read for us.

~spay (I HATE THIS)

[morph the cat]

This is one of the "not as concrete reads" I alluded to earlier. I don't get good vibes from FB.

Again, the hydra thing, but I feel like almost every post so far has been FB and not shiro. Or at least I read them all in my head in a more FB tone of voice.

Did I mention I fucking hate hydras?

Every post has been FB, nearly positive there. Shiro is based out of Greece, it's like just now 6:45 AM there.

[morph the cat]

It's uh... kinda of weird to have all my reads validated by you, but uh, yay?

[morph the cat]

It's uh... kinda of weird to have all my reads validated by you, but uh, yay?

lol

look man, i'm literally just reading what you put in front of me.

I noticed.

It's still quite surprising to me. I expected divergence on some of them.

I guess next up would be Bell, his back and forth with Shea in the past few pages read as extremely town bell to both of us.

[morph the cat]

It's uh... kinda of weird to have all my reads validated by you, but uh, yay?

lol

look man, i'm literally just reading what you put in front of me.

I ~think~ that was to notsci.

~spay

[morph the cat]

heh! well notsci hiveminding with me is also "uh, yay?"

[morph the cat]

is cabd usually this thirsty for validation

Oh dude, this isn't even close to solo-cabd thirst from back in the day.

[morph the cat]

Yep, he really is.

[morph the cat]

Spoiler: Birbwork, Part III

do i have to pull out the ol' "don't claim unprompted in the closed theme" bat again? it's a little dusty but i will.

I mean, there's no point in doing it now. Besides, Toogeloo is probably town.

I actually kind of worry about it being the kind of thing Third Party might do in order to gain town cred for having a vaguely confirmable action without being threatening enough to draw a NK. It's the kind of play I would consider if I were a TP and had a vaguely confirmable role. Also, knowing HP in general seems like a role that would be more useful for scum than town.

All of that is a little tin foil hat though.

This comes from a player who I know immediately claims vt as vt in the mason vs scum stump setups, if that adds context

Subject: Titus v Nancy Drew (Game Over)

Good evening to you all. I'm not going to overspeculate, but I'm going to at least assume scum didn't go crazy with their role picks. I'm VT which means I'm just along for the ride this game. Titus' got her team she wants, Nancy's got their team of Masons they want, other peeps got some juicy powerz probably, and then me... stuck in the middle twiddlin' my thumbs.

Wait... Why's this feel so familiar? Pooky, I'm having déjà vu!?!

To be clear, this wasn't a good idea in that game, or in the game before where they did this, but at least they're consistent. Though I think it loops back around into being "not towny" (the role is though)

MOD EVENT

(2) Ignore the lake, moving on with your adventure

> You decide this is no time for relaxation! You must continue to climb the tree, no matter the expense. You ignore the lake and march forward.

Votecount 1.1

Adventurers

:

Morph the Cat (fferyllt/Cabd) [1]: Bingle
Dunnstral [0]:
Save the Dragons [0]: Sigmund
White Fire (Shiro/Firebringer) [1]: jjh927
Lady Lambdadelta [1]: Thestatusquo
Guillotina [1]: jjh927
Thestatusquo [1]: MURDERCAT
MURDERCAT [2]: Chara, White Fire
Bingle [2]: Flea the Magician, Save the Dragons
Not_mafia [1]: Anya


Not Voting: (10) Something_Smart, Toogeloo, notscience, Dunnstral, Artemiana, NDMath, mastina, Bell, Titus, Lady Lambdadetla

With 24 alive it takes 13 to eliminate. Stratum 1 ends in (expired on 2021-06-04 22:25:25).

@mod is the OP accurate?

Yes.

How come some players are shown with no votes and others aren't listed?

Mod errors. I went back and implemented the changes for that votecount.

VOTE: Flea the Magician

scumposting

We were told this in sign-ups

By the way town had to confirm by adding him on discord

Role PMs are going out. Confirmation will be slightly different.

Once I feel everyone has confirmed, we will start N0.

VOTE: mastina

I voted dunn for the omgus shiggles, and now I vote for the cheap shot.

VOTE: Flea The Magician

I'm not sure I did stuff D1 in Death Curse either tbh

I found you very good while observing your day one. Maybe those in the game felt otherwise but they're not chiming in.

Try for us.

Hmm, stroking my ego? It's working (but I think everyone speccing just called us trash for not killing Noraa D1 that game)

Bell is NAI posting but it's a good push because of 344 suggesting he is not going to go back and interact with any content from the first ~10 pages

Dunn voting for Flea seems off to me

271 from Fark felt genuine to me

LLD is null to me, and I'm not sure what to make of Shea trying to generate content off her posts, but it feels towny to me?

I can't remember if notscience was that alt I played with a couple times, haven't gathered anything from his posts

Nothing else stuck out to me

scummy post

271 from Fark felt genuine to me

271 is completely pointless

Feels like the sort of thing you'd put in a scum pt if you had one

I don't believe that this is a real read you have

Dunn scumread - Specifically the mastina vote didn't make sense from a logical standpoint and 402 is a poor reaction.

Was I right or not?

VLA until Sunday

There isn't really an I am sick as fuck option. I'm doing the best I can right now. I strongly feel Anya and G are teamed. I can't prove it but G's reaction is OMGUS for omgus sake. I could buy a certain amount of bias after our last game, but this just feels like they're hiding instead. There's no hunting, just whining.

When I asked G to give a read on Anya (who I had gut pings on at the time), they tried to pass the buck.

When Anya votes G, there's no interaction there.

Get out of here! The game may have started earlier for you guys but it did the moment i actually posted here the first time for me, dont expect me to have reads when i just got here. When you scum read me for my suspicion on Sigmund's TMI, it reminded me of your scum game in that one Deck of Astral game.
I smell fear of me in you and you are trying to get everyone else wagoned on me because i have recent scum meta of you.

You dont believe your read if you are town, hence my vote is sticking on you.

Oh and one more thing, town can OMGUS, scum call out OMGUS to discredit the reaction of townies towards their scummy pushes. OMGUS is term created by scum for scum, you are not gonna discredit my feelings and my resd by passing it out as OMGUS. My reaction and read on you is real and has conviction behind it.

Cabd

Does this feel similar to Xenoblade 2 to you?

Spoiler:

WTF! If you guys think that i am scum because i made the mistake of defending what seemed like an LHF being bullied by a power player then you got it all wrong!!! Im town. I was not a lurker on Day 1, it implies i've been in the game but not engaging which is not true. I signed up to a game that is supposed to last 10 days per day phase which adjusted to my work schedule and free time but it ended in a day!! If i knew i was signing up for a blitz game i wouldn't have sign up at all.

Now it's Saturday night and I already got plans, so if this game does not end in 12 hours, we can talk, but I'm town!! My only sin was feeling empathy for someone I thought was being bullied!!

[morph the cat]

I doubt it, ffery
I often agree with morph
It would not be strange

We missed the first try
at a mid-air handclasp
the verses passed each other by
sometimes the second grasp
is even more sure
because the first was poor

[morph the cat]

This morph thing with LLD seems way too involved to be pocketing on their part at this point and while I don't love the whole "effort == town" thing because its pretty easily exploited, it seems to me like we've gone beyond the point where morph would keep doing this as scum.

That is only happening due to the cabd head, by the by. This wouldn't be happening if the slot was a ffery slot, I don't believe.

But you can ask lexi herself for her opinion/take on that.

[morph the cat]

This morph thing with LLD seems way too involved to be pocketing on their part at this point and while I don't love the whole "effort == town" thing because its pretty easily exploited, it seems to me like we've gone beyond the point where morph would keep doing this as scum.

That is only happening due to the cabd head, by the by. This wouldn't be happening if the slot was a ffery slot, I don't believe.

But you can ask lexi herself for her opinion/take on that.

With that said, Lexi has very obviously followed motivations to not want to effort this game, but I value her input enough that if she needs me to help her engage the game this way, I will do so until she tires of it.

[morph the cat]

Dunnstral read is that dunn is applying a LOT of good early pressure to good early targets in Mastina Murdercat and Flea. All slots I expect would generate both content for the thread and reads for the player if pressured.

But Dunn is clever enough to do that kind of target selection purposefully seeking for weakness.

So I'm not willing to hard lock Dunn town but Dunn doesn't die today.

4 for 4, or is it 5 for 5, I suppose?

At this point we're going back to data-acquisition. Want a few more town reads. People need to show up.

[morph the cat]

I suppose it’s obvious
But it’s time to call the charade
You guys both seem pretty town
I’m going to be so upset if I got played

So next comes the sync up
Where should we go?
Fire, Dunn, Shea, Bell, Toog,
All are hard no’s.

we're still acquiring/firming up townreads. I think given where our stripy little heads are at this is going to be a POE approach today.

We need more from the stragglers.

[morph the cat]

VLA until Sunday

There isn't really an I am sick as fuck option. I'm doing the best I can right now. I strongly feel Anya and G are teamed. I can't prove it but G's reaction is OMGUS for omgus sake. I could buy a certain amount of bias after our last game, but this just feels like they're hiding instead. There's no hunting, just whining.

When I asked G to give a read on Anya (who I had gut pings on at the time), they tried to pass the buck.

When Anya votes G, there's no interaction there.

Get out of here! The game may have started earlier for you guys but it did the moment i actually posted here the first time for me, dont expect me to have reads when i just got here. When you scum read me for my suspicion on Sigmund's TMI, it reminded me of your scum game in that one Deck of Astral game.
I smell fear of me in you and you are trying to get everyone else wagoned on me because i have recent scum meta of you.

You dont believe your read if you are town, hence my vote is sticking on you.

Oh and one more thing, town can OMGUS, scum call out OMGUS to discredit the reaction of townies towards their scummy pushes. OMGUS is term created by scum for scum, you are not gonna discredit my feelings and my resd by passing it out as OMGUS. My reaction and read on you is real and has conviction behind it.

Cabd

Does this feel similar to Xenoblade 2 to you?

Spoiler:

WTF! If you guys think that i am scum because i made the mistake of defending what seemed like an LHF being bullied by a power player then you got it all wrong!!! Im town. I was not a lurker on Day 1, it implies i've been in the game but not engaging which is not true. I signed up to a game that is supposed to last 10 days per day phase which adjusted to my work schedule and free time but it ended in a day!! If i knew i was signing up for a blitz game i wouldn't have sign up at all.

Now it's Saturday night and I already got plans, so if this game does not end in 12 hours, we can talk, but I'm town!! My only sin was feeling empathy for someone I thought was being bullied!!

Does it to you? What exactly are we looking at here? Hmm?

Holding my thoughts on this for a bit intentionally, btw.

[morph the cat]

Be the change you want
To see in the world, MURDERCAT
You can change the world.

Talk to me about you Bingle townread?

[morph the cat]

on my phone

Excuse you, you've added even-night to your role crumb to try and wiggle out of why NachoTammy died night one and must die now.

[morph the cat]

All slots I expect would generate both content for the thread and reads for the player if pressured.

This is the phrasing that I'm referring to

Bucket.

[morph the cat]

I can't go any deeper into the pocket cabd

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_tunnelling

There's always a deeper pocket.

[morph the cat]

I actually do concur that expecting a solid read on Anya in early day one is nigh impossible short of a daycop or something.

She enjoys fucking around with perceptions too much.

[morph the cat]

I actually do concur that expecting a solid read on Anya in early day one is nigh impossible short of a daycop or something.

She enjoys fucking around with perceptions too much.

Cabd wtf is Murdercat doing

I don't get it

You're gonna hate me for this but...

Keep talking it out with him. Promise.

I'll expand once he's done.

[morph the cat]

I actually do concur that expecting a solid read on Anya in early day one is nigh impossible short of a daycop or something.

She enjoys fucking around with perceptions too much.

Cabd wtf is Murdercat doing

I don't get it

You're gonna hate me for this but...

Keep talking it out with him. Promise.

I'll expand once he's done.

Is this just the "troll LLD when she's exhausted and rundown" game?

you monsters

Nah. Honestly you've done enough tonight, but I wanted to see how murdercat would approach clarifying stuff with ya.

Take the night off, put your talons up, go stomp a board game or something. We'll have plenty of time to give fucks again tomorrow. Ffery and I retreating to our beast-cave for a bit to hash out tierlsits and such.

[morph the cat]

Hell, go read my scum PT from team mafia, I believe we said like 10 total words to each other the first few days. Like idk if I buy that you really believe that scum PTs are places where people are cranking out reads and cliffnotes for their teammates because I just don't think I've ever seen that happen?

That is the average but there are exceptions to that rule. The Tenet scum discord, for instance, was the equivalent of about 70 thread pages. We all used both realtime and our PT to keep track of everything. And did plenty of active coaching. (In the case of Tenet, to get Gypyx outside of what we knew Nacho was looking for in his scum range)

That scumteam had LLD on it, incidentally.

[morph the cat]

the tonality is WAY over the top and its pinging the crap out of me.

Welcome to Guillotina's baseline.

[morph the cat]

You're missing three layups from your reads, Titus. And that's excluding myself, even.

[morph the cat]

Feel free to ask more and I can answer in the morning
But I would honestly be surprised if you are town and didn't read me as town yet

My current read of you is "how the fuck did he end up with his position on me" which generally leans towards town because ludicrous positions that don't make logical sense usually come from town

but I have a like, strong desire to make sure i'm not being taken advantage of, so

I have a confession to make.

I took the time while you two chatted to go play a co-op vs AI game because I haven't gotten to play in ages. I went like 11-0-18 on morgana because lol riot bots. But hey.

[morph the cat]

I intend to sleep on it.

Running out of scum ratholes to hide from the POE, and several players have yet to show up.


Looking in the general direction of Hawaii here...

[morph the cat]

I intend to sleep on it.

Running out of scum ratholes to hide from the POE, and several players have yet to show up.


Looking in the general direction of Hawaii here...

what does hawaii mean in ths context

Artemania/Momrangel

[morph the cat]

You're missing three layups from your reads, Titus. And that's excluding myself, even.

Morph, I know you mentioned my real life voice but I am not recognizing you at the moment.

@G, You have time. I don't expect you to be right or wrong but I expect something beyond these people FoS me so scum. I am not even voting you despite you having a large wagon for awhile. I can plead with you and give you an opportunity but I can't give you the answers.

Yep. We got pulled over in your car on the way from the train station that one time!~

[morph the cat]

Anyways, titus, do you disagree with the consensus of toog-town? Or did you just leave him off that list because he's not active this evening?

[morph the cat]

Yeah you'd have to hate your own money to host a massive scummer meet at a home you own as opposed to a third party venue with insurance.

Just too many moving parts. Even with a smaller group.

[morph the cat]

Anyways, titus, do you disagree with the consensus of toog-town? Or did you just leave him off that list because he's not active this evening?

What? Toog's in the game?

Toogaloo fullclaimed in their opening post, aye.
viewtopic.php?p=12791798#p12791798

[morph the cat]

I am significantly concerned we're dealing with another "lol 2020" scumteam btw.

[morph the cat]

I didn't realize that was a mom alt. That's good to know.

OK, I'm reading through and like

Marky is scum.

I might as well give up with this account at this point

[morph the cat]

I am significantly concerned we're dealing with another "lol 2020" scumteam btw.

oh you mean "low effort big apathy all the power players are town" game?

like see: defcon?

Yeah, where scum tries nothing and is all out of ideas. Like defcon, or like 90% of scums in large themes in the past 12 months.

[morph the cat]

Frankly? What's the fun of a social deduction game if the other team rolls over and dies for you. It's a hollow victory, no?

[morph the cat]

Frankly? What's the fun of a social deduction game if the other team rolls over and dies for you. It's a hollow victory, no?

Not really what I meant, although I see that point. I’m more looking at the player list and wondering why, given said list you’re more worried that there aren’t movers and shakers on the scum team than that there are and you aren’t seeing them.

I have fairly solid townreads on a majority of the movers and shakers I personally would panic about, and I just came off a game where being paranoid about handing out townreads and instead sitting by burned me and my town team.

[morph the cat]

Sidebar-

Titus, I can vouch that what Shea is stating about Anya is true. I just came out of a large normal having the exact same issues you're currently going through with the posting. It was my first time playing with her.

[morph the cat]

Frankly? What's the fun of a social deduction game if the other team rolls over and dies for you. It's a hollow victory, no?

Not really what I meant, although I see that point. I’m more looking at the player list and wondering why, given said list you’re more worried that there aren’t movers and shakers on the scum team than that there are and you aren’t seeing them.

I have fairly solid townreads on a majority of the movers and shakers I personally would panic about, and I just came off a game where being paranoid about handing out townreads and instead sitting by burned me and my town team.

How bad was the burn?

Extreme, actually.

It was soulcrushingly miserable. Mod randomly did a "tehehehehe by the way the town miller exists but there are no town cops oh yeah and there's a neighborhood but both memebrs are mafia traitors that don't know about each other" shit and we tried to mechsolve instead of reads-solve. It was a disaster.

[morph the cat]

Sidebar-

Titus, I can vouch that what Shea is stating about Anya is true. I just came out of a large normal having the exact same issues you're currently going through with the posting. It was my first time playing with her.

Guess the hydra:

Ffery.

?

The above post was Neuter. viewtopic.php?f=2&t=86404

[morph the cat]

@Flea, a layup is a term in American basketball for a shot at the hoop that is extremely easy to make with little to no effort, essentially walk up and score.

[morph the cat]

Oh, this is an aside, but morph do you use weaponized hydra dissonance as a scumtool? I assume the answer is yes and this is not a behavior I've seen, but I want to know if you do for later.

Do you want the binary answer or the five paragraph waxing poetic answer?

[morph the cat]

I sorta was up till 3AM and am phone posting while I do chores but sure, once I get to a PC.

[morph the cat]

Binary. Do you intentionally create arguments about your reads as scum to appear town and avoid pushing wagons, or are you more likely to default to one person leading on reads and the other following.

The guess the hydra bit was an attempt to gauge how well I can tell the two of you apart tonally, I didn't actually look for games either of you had played with anya.

We've played as morph so often that our hydra has its own meta, somewhat separate from our solo play. Our styles merge. a LOT. I feel like our voices are still recognizable, but external feedback suggests otherwise sometines.

Aside from an abandoned game from earlier this year, most of our scum-meta is from 2013-2014, I think. We did intentionally have dissonance in at least one of those games. And in the abandoned game, we had some unintentional dissonance at one point, but I'd say neither of us was putting in a great performance that game.

[morph the cat]

Binary. Do you intentionally create arguments about your reads as scum to appear town and avoid pushing wagons, or are you more likely to default to one person leading on reads and the other following.

The guess the hydra bit was an attempt to gauge how well I can tell the two of you apart tonally, I didn't actually look for games either of you had played with anya.

I have done this before in every hydra I've drawn scum in. Morph is no exception. I recall explicitly doing so in the fire emblem mini theme Vi ran many moons ago. Against Mara/Borkie in our neighborhood QT.

Spoiler: Nuanced Answer

In most of my hydrae, it's two separate players with two separate styles posting under a combined flag. Morph is a little different. In morph, both of us essentially abandon our existing play styles and get into a convergence of our two styles, such that we could literally post each other's thoughts in morph's style, and few would notice. If you go back earlier, there was a part where both heads of the hydra replied to the same post back to back and said nearly the same substance. That's not by design, it's just the morph-sync we get into. As far as our vote goes, we discuss everything internally in a PT or discord chat, and even though it's not in the thread we have a reads list from the get go. Even before the game starts, heck, even before we have our role PM or alignment, we're already doing homework on the player list. For whatever reason, our styles are super compatible, and it brings out the tryhard in both of us.

[morph the cat]

@notsci

who do you think would be more scared of morph on n0, scum or town?

[morph the cat]

Ah, thanks, both of you. So the answer is you would, but you tend to have a resonant hydra presence more often, presumably as both alignments.

Yes. We value the "sync achieved" text more than most anything else.

[morph the cat]

Lexi, I'm at a PC, you around?

[morph the cat]

Okay. I'm thinking about Mara now, but in the meantime... Do you recall the three step plan I spelled out pregame in Tenet?

I want to prevent that from working here, and I need a third set of eyes on it to confirm my gut is right here.

[morph the cat]

I think the key to this game is gonna be preventing scum from pivoting from the "eliminate the easy marks" stage to the "expand the scum pool with paranoia and setup spec" second stage.

I also think we can be more choosy about which LHF we elim as to not let phase one play out completely.

[morph the cat]

I think the key to this game is gonna be preventing scum from pivoting from the "eliminate the easy marks" stage to the "expand the scum pool with paranoia and setup spec" second stage.

I also think we can be more choosy about which LHF we elim as to not let phase one play out completely.

I agree with you.

I think my current play of allowing Wheme and Arte wagons to compete and see where people land (one one of them, or on netiher) will give me a good sense of what people are trying to do.

Where do you want me to look?

What do you make of NDmath and STD? Those are the other two with low post counts that I could see a flashwagon popping up on.

[morph the cat]

Okay. I'm thinking about Mara now, but in the meantime... Do you recall the three step plan I spelled out pregame in Tenet?

I want to prevent that from working here, and I need a third set of eyes on it to confirm my gut is right here.

I try to forget that game. Can you link me?

It was in the scum discord channel.

I can paraphrase though:

Phase one: elim the low hanging fruit that wasn't mafia
Phase two: Pivot to expanding the scumpool via paranoia and setup spec and hope town ignores the low hanging fruit that is Mafia
Phase three: use the near majority to win off of one or two players with abysmal reads

In tenet, the pivot from phase one to two was us expanding the scum pool away from A50/Gypyx/Spiffeh/Pooks and towards Bell/Skitter/Notsci et al.

[morph the cat]

@notsci

who do you think would be more scared of morph on n0, scum or town?

Hat do I think scum
ould do about you? Attack
They don’t have the facts

I’m a cat on book
Cant sim, but I have zoomies
You know hat I mean?

I get it exactly, yeah. Former coach and all.

While we're smitten with your poetry, I think we're going to revert to talking normally now. Join us at your leisure.

[morph the cat]

@notsci

who do you think would be more scared of morph on n0, scum or town?

Hat do I think scum
ould do about you? Attack
They don’t have the facts[/align

they would have at least one fact.

vs naught but free-floating paranoia, I guess.

I’m a cat on book
Cant sim, but I have zoomies
You know hat I mean?[/align]

such disarmingly cute zoomies!

[morph the cat]

14. notscience - Moderate town, hard with the PR

Notsci has admitted it's self-imposed FYI.

[morph the cat]

Morph, is the townblock good enough for today to conquer that strategy.

It's amusing to me, because we have nearly no overlap with our strong town names, hah.

Let us think about it.

[morph the cat]

Ah, thanks, both of you. So the answer is you would, but you tend to have a resonant hydra presence more often, presumably as both alignments.

It looks like you are trying to build a model of our hydra play.

by asking

us

about our hydra play.

[morph the cat]

We're going back to our den and coming back with a reads list. Titus, our heads en hydra fairly synchronized, I meant that OUR informal list and yours had disagreements.

[morph the cat]

It looks like you are trying to build a model of our hydra play.

by asking us about our hydra play.

Well yeah. Both of you know (or at least I think you do) that there's a significant chance I get bored and double check later. Lying here is stupid, so you won't do it. So why not ask you directly instead of waiting to have the time to do the legwork?

Just seemed off compared to asking the two players not in our slot that are experts in morphology.

I don't hate it, just trying to get to the meat of why.

[morph the cat]

I think I Usually disagree with Titus reasoning but I always have similar reads to Titus which makes me think I’m wrong and Titus is scum. They usually are town when this happens though so maybe Titus is town here

Also VOTE: Option 2

I don't understand what you mean regarding Titus.

- you usually have different reasons, but your reads are usually similar to hers?
- you usually scumread titus for this, but she's usually town?

[morph the cat]

As always, tiers are divided, but placement within tiers is not meaningful.

Would self vote before voting

Toogeloo
Bell

Pretty Darn Town

White Fire (Shiro/Firebringer)
Lady Lambdadelta
Chara
Thestatusquo
notscience
MURDERCAT

Good Vibes, Inc.

Titus
Flea the Magician

Above Null, Below Our Hearts

Dunnstral
Something_Smart
Save the Dragons
Guillotina

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~THE LINE OF DAY ONE VOTING WILLINGNESS~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Priority to Sort

Anya
Ircher (jjh927)
Artemiana
Sigmund
NDMath
Farkran

Icky

WhemeStar
Bingle

[morph the cat]

@morph, can you talk to me about Flea?

We thought the spoiler= tag posted catchup walls were actually way more insightful and deep than first impression, mostly.

Spayhalf drove that read, I'll let her elaborate.

[morph the cat]

Notsci are you gonna W us or are we too smelly for that?

[morph the cat]

@morph, can you talk to me about Flea?

We thought the spoiler= tag posted catchup walls were actually way more insightful and deep than first impression, mostly.

Spayhalf drove that read, I'll let her elaborate.

This is my first game with Flea, but I've spectated a few of faer games. Watching a game vs being active is never an identical experience so some of the shine I feel for Flea here could be an artifact of being immersed in this game instead of a desultory spectator in the grandstand. I feel a lot more in sync with faer's game thoughts than I anticipated.

[morph the cat]

1) The difference between the whemestar and aremiana slots in your mind. Why is one a priority sort while the other is icky? What is causing that difference in read tiers?

-If it were entirely Cabd's call Mara would be down in red but I (cabd still) just came out of a game where I mistakenly scumread her and her replacement pooky suffered a tunnel from me that was unwarranted. Both heads of this hydra saw Mara's scumgame up close and personal in perpetual mylim just a few weeks ago, as well.

Whemestar has gone from me being whelmed, to me being underwhelmed, with a set of hedges suitable to fully fence in my corner lot here in the north suburbs.

2) The bell locktown read

Completely meta and unlikely to be super compelling to you. But his back and forth with you was incredibly vintage bell ubertown. This and the Toog read are both completely 100% no disagreement sheeped by each other.

3) The bingle scum read

We intend to get into this in another post, but it's something that started last night in our hydra chat around 10:30 PM (Chicago time) to the point where I told ffery that we were getting into "Bitch Eating Crackers" mode and needed to step away from it. When we came back to it around 4PM (same Chicago time) we didn't feel much differently.

We don't think he'd really expect any pushback from scum reading us early. I don't think that I care much about his "big soft" as it's NAI anyways. I've softed my real role as scum in early day ones plenty of times.

We find that as we track the opinions of other slots, Bingle is the most polarizing, which is an interesting thing. We'll get into THAT more in detail as well.

[morph the cat]

Notsci are you gonna W us or are we too smelly for that?

Close, but no cigar
Think on it more, you are close
But there’s something gone.

Close, but not quite there yet. Think we need a bigger flashlight.

Alternatively, you can spell it out in Cobra Kai fashion~

[morph the cat]

Fear no. Respect for strengths, yes.

[morph the cat]

Frankly? What's the fun of a social deduction game if the other team rolls over and dies for you. It's a hollow victory, no?

Didn't last time u say something like this it was in tenet. im feeling deja vu

I don't recall doing so, but that's my philosophy regardless of alignment or being in a game or merely spectating.

[morph the cat]

okay kind of offtopic here but would like some advice; my keyboard is busted on laptop and im using a usb keyboard. would like to fix the keyboard. is anyone familiar with fixing a keyboard on laptop? i tried going to find exact model keyboard replacement from manufacturer but tis been no help. don't want to just do with this and would like to not just get new laptop because a few keys are broken to shit.

What is your make and manufacturer? Generally speaking replacing the keyboard can be part ordered online, and then YouTube video to step by step it. You'll want anti-static straps, as well as a precision screwdriver set, and a shim to avoid damaging the exterior case or interior pieces. Depending on your manufacturer, you may need a new ribbon cable (connects the keyboard to the motherboard) or it may come with the replacement part.

[morph the cat]

Whemestar has gone from me being whelmed, to me being underwhelmed, with a set of hedges suitable to fully fence in my corner lot here in the north suburbs.

Wtf does this mean

You--->fence-->sit

[morph the cat]

a

It's the trend of large themes over the past few years to have scumteams that don't actually post that much, such that the game ca often be won by just eliminating from the bottom of the activity post count sort list until the game's over.

Xenoblade II
Smoke Filled Antechamber
Illicit Substances
Defcon IV
Deathscroll (Minus the outlier Noraa)
etc

[morph the cat]

okay kind of offtopic here but would like some advice; my keyboard is busted on laptop and im using a usb keyboard. would like to fix the keyboard. is anyone familiar with fixing a keyboard on laptop? i tried going to find exact model keyboard replacement from manufacturer but tis been no help. don't want to just do with this and would like to not just get new laptop because a few keys are broken to shit.

What is your make and manufacturer? Generally speaking replacing the keyboard can be part ordered online, and then YouTube video to step by step it. You'll want anti-static straps, as well as a precision screwdriver set, and a shim to avoid damaging the exterior case or interior pieces. Depending on your manufacturer, you may need a new ribbon cable (connects the keyboard to the motherboard) or it may come with the replacement part.

lenovo 81AX

https://pcsupport.lenovo.com/us/en/prod ... compatible

Put your specific serial number in the box on the left, and it'll tell you exactly what part number your laptop shipped with to replace.

[morph the cat]

a

It's the trend of large themes over the past few years to have scumteams that don't actually post that much, such that the game ca often be won by just eliminating from the bottom of the activity post count sort list until the game's over.

Xenoblade II
Smoke Filled Antechamber
Illicit Substances
Defcon IV
Deathscroll (Minus the outlier Noraa)
etc

It sort of even applies to how Among Us went down.

Mafia team gets indecision paralysis, and fails to see the town steamroller about to run them down.

[morph the cat]

Whemestar has gone from me being whelmed, to me being underwhelmed, with a set of hedges suitable to fully fence in my corner lot here in the north suburbs.

Wtf does this mean

You--->fence-->sit

Yeah its hard for me to get reads this game and im not sure why

It's not that, it's that you're putting in tons of outs on the ones you ARE making. There are plenty of layups here, that you have issues getting ANY is more concerning, not less.

[morph the cat]

Hey Morph, Wanna do Bingle first?

I'm listening.

[morph the cat]

Reverse Xenoblade Deal?

[morph the cat]

Reverse Xenoblade Deal level of sure?

EBWOP

[morph the cat]

Good enough to borrow my claws.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: bingle

[morph the cat]

Ffery can take it back if she disargees.

[morph the cat]

I was sad to not see Shiro because I have an entire folder of No game No Life memes ready.

We've got morph-as-Jibril ready to go.

[morph the cat]

@morph, can you talk to me about Flea?

We thought the spoiler= tag posted catchup walls were actually way more insightful and deep than first impression, mostly.

Spayhalf drove that read, I'll let her elaborate.

This is my first game with Flea, but I've spectated a few of faer games. Watching a game vs being active is never an identical experience so some of the shine I feel for Flea here could be an artifact of being immersed in this game instead of a desultory spectator in the grandstand. I feel a lot more in sync with faer's game thoughts than I anticipated.

I would like more insight into this

faers entire ISO up to faers multi-spoilers were pretty much exactly the kinds of posts that I haven't liked when reading along as a spectator in other games. I was expecting to have faer below the line of elimmability when I finally did a full sort of the player list.

Stuff fae posted in that catchup that I liked (like doesn't mean agree, necessarily, but it does mean I can follow why fae has that stance/opinion and can see it coming from town):

- the Bell trajectory in 883
- the pushback about MC's statement re "people" giving scum-LLD a pass in 884
- also the TSQ turn of phrase fangirling in that post. not directly AI, but feels really light, easy and unfettered.
- faers reaction to LLD's thoughts about Dunn pushing faer in 885 and then confirming the "rubber chicken" characterization (in faers own words) shortly after in a reply to Guill
- expression of "the heebies" to Guill's "when I flip town" interaction with Dunn. This is a reaction I disagree with, but I *get* that it can come from town-I-disagree-with

[morph the cat]

Ffery can take it back if she disargees.

sync

[morph the cat]

K. The marathon game is over now.

I just had one of the least pleasant experiences I have ever had playing mafia in my entire life.

In which I was invited into a dance game as the 9th player, and in the course of essentially 5 minutes of a deadline, the game had already been over and I was without a partner because players had essentially already decided what they wanted to do.

I don't know why I was invited to that game just to be ostracized, but I was especially bothered by how I was told that it wasn't a big deal.

It hurt me a lot. And Bingle was a player who had a pre-planned partner going into the game. He contributed to the worst feeling I've ever had playing Mafia on this site, I think, and I'm kind of really just angry.

We're good with our vote based on our own read/interactions with Bingle (damn cracker crumbs everywhere).

If we were voting with you only because of the strength of your read/strength of our townread on you, we'd be reconsidering.

And I'm really sorry you wound up in an awful game situation. <3

[morph the cat]

It's really common for people to just decide what they're going to do and ignore people though.

Also, I just realized that morph the cat's avatar is fucking themed after this game.

Just wow.

We usually dress up our avatar for game themes.

You didn't notice the psychedelic av in Illicit?

[morph the cat]

I don't like either wagon,

but the response on me suggests I should like one of the two wagons

. Ugh.

I don't understand what you mean by the bolded?

[morph the cat]

I am sooooooo allergic to VCA qua VCA.

preflip VCA?

nopenopenope

(if there were ever a morphpost that doesn't require a sig, it's this one).

[morph the cat]

<3

[morph the cat]

unvote

[morph the cat]

I thought it was a bulletproof softing and we were trying to run you up because counterclaim here. Sorry :/

[morph the cat]

Our vote was an actual scum read on the way you approached us and also the way you eat crackers.


And of course the bulletproof read of your soft which I misread.

[morph the cat]

Which actually it's probably time to just address the elephant in the room.

Whoever the fuck decided to siphon stuff from us night zero had better dn well crumb it before day is over or you're scum.

[morph the cat]

Whoever did it knows what they did to one of our stats. Siphon might be the wrong term though. Not sure if stolen or just removed from us.

[morph the cat]

It is why we were asking notsci who fears us more. We were wondering if he'd tried to nerf us on night zero.

[morph the cat]

Whoever did it knows what they did to one of our stats. Siphon might be the wrong term though. Not sure if stolen or just removed from us.

Bruh if it's town we're going to hear about it at some point regardless now because of this.

If it's scum you're only depriving info from the town because good and god damned well the scum know what they did

so why the half measure secrecy? it makes no sense

I promise it will when all is revealed.

[morph the cat]

Notsci sit on your hands for a bit? I want bingle to explain why he distrusts you with open air.

[morph the cat]

Sorry for the short posting btw. I'm in the nursery doing Olivia's bedtime routine.

[morph the cat]

I dunno why the scum team just didn't wait to outright kill you though.
Like if I was in the scum team and you weren't scum, I would just kill you N1, because that's just what you do with Morph the cat.

unless you're Bork. Or the smokefilled scumteam. You killed Syr N1 and left the morph phragments until N2.

[morph the cat]

Bingles,

Xemnas sends their regards.

[morph the cat]

Bingles,

Xemnas sends their regards.

I'm aware. FWIW, I'm not at all proud of my play that game and that was literally the most emotionally distressing game I've ever played on site, for reasons that were largely not the fault of anyone directly involved in that game. Suffice to say I was going through a really hard time with family stuff and probably shouldn't have been playing mafia at all, but the mod was too tempting to resist.

That's not what I meant at all!

Being an IC is one mental load removed and a whole different set dropped from 10,000 ft.

[morph the cat]

As always, tiers are divided, but placement within tiers is not meaningful.

Would self vote before voting

Toogeloo
Bell
Bingle

Pretty Darn Town

White Fire (Shiro/Firebringer)
Lady Lambdadelta
Chara
Thestatusquo
notscience
MURDERCAT

Good Vibes, Inc.

Titus
Flea the Magician

Above Null, Below Our Hearts

Dunnstral
Something_Smart
Save the Dragons
Guillotina

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~THE LINE OF DAY ONE VOTING WILLINGNESS~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Priority to Sort

Anya
Ircher (jjh927)
Artemiana
Sigmund
NDMath
Farkran

Icky

WhemeStar

Updated. We should probably put STD back down to sort, but coming off of games of misreading him, it's tough to not want to give him BOTD.

[morph the cat]

Bingle you should quote stripe our reads list and tell us why we're bad point by point. It'll be fun.

[morph the cat]

THEY ARE VOTING ME

Get off your butt and go round up some townreads if scum hunting isn't your forte right now.

[morph the cat]

As tvtropes puts it:

"First, think of a problem that the player has to get around — like, say, helping a cat down from a tree. Then, think of how a normal, sensible person would solve the issue with the objects that would be close to hand. Then seal your head inside of a half-full vat of boiling chlorine for about twenty minutes, and write down another way you'd solve the problem that at that moment makes perfect sense to your probably fatally poisoned mind. Repeat this process until you have discovered the most circuitous possible solution."

[morph the cat]

You're townier than Bell. I don't see myself voting Toog this game. Bingle is pretty much always a good vote.

I understand but don't subscribe to the Chara/MC/LLD/Shea townreads. I might be biased, but I feel like MC has been a little too concerned with how he looks to other people. That's a big grain of salt, because I scumread town him in TM for literally that same reason. I think that LLD and Shea are probably town, but it's not strong yet. With that said, despite a small sample size I've actually been fairly successful at reading LLD as a spectator, so I'm not particularly worried about her. Shea... snows me. I don't think I ever don't tr shea before endgame, and even in TM I arrived at scum shea because I was hypertunneled on a townie who couldn't be scum with anyone else. In my defense, Pine did outright lie about my reads on a few occasions tactically in that game so I didn't have the agency to press, but I'm not at all confident in my ability to locktown him. I'd like to see more from Chara before I commit to a solid read on it, but so far I've liked what I've seen.

Regardless, I'm fine with leaving that group off the table for now.

Notty I just talked about, and would probably put in your orange bin or perhaps just below.

Titus is tough. Like, once upon a time I could reliably read Titus, but we haven't played together frequently in years. There are posts she makes that make me want to say "This is townTitus." but they're less frequent than they need to be for any degree of certainty. One of my priorities is going to be to try and get her engaged in the game and in an active back and forth about reads, preferably with someone like you or LLD. I remember Titus being really good at performing for an audience or pocketing someone in a back and forth, but not both simultaneously.

Flea I should probably look at again as I don't recall any strong pings. I do remember fae was scum in Among Us and I think faer scumgame was pretty strong early but fell apart after time, so that's not a priority sort for me.

Your yellow crew is probably all null to me atm and none of them would be off the lim table if I was given a compelling reason.

Farkran would probably be on the same level as Titus but with the same disclaimer as TSQ, and with the note that I have FAR less experience there.

Anya is a read I'm strategically withholding atm. The rest of the players I haven't even really attempted to sort.

Different game experiences and quite possibly different skillsets.

I'm not sure about Cabd, but I think this is my first time playing with TSQ. There was a point earlier in the game where I almost got snippy with him about barging through my lines of questioning a couple times, but I know that my approach to digging for data annoys some players. It feels like he's playing from the sidelines, though.

Chara may be too high in our reads given the amount of time we've spent thinking about its play.

Cabd is (and will be) a sort of buffer between me and Titus. Our playstyles clash pretty hard.

There are actually a number of players in this list that I have little or no experience playing with and I'm comparing their play to generic models for now and waiting to see what develops. e.g. big error bars.