Final Fantasy XIV - A Realm Reborn Mafia (Game Over)

[Mandelbrot]

Does 3175 change your position on what to fo House?

I'm always open for suggestions.

Just sitting get any from someone I trust.

Yume is actually posting. Maybe she'll finally help me figure it out.

- House

I've laid out my thoughts on the table. It's up to you to listen to them or not. Either way, I mean what I said, both here and in hydra PT.

- Frustrated one

Sorry

[Mandelbrot]

Does 3175 change your position on what to fo House?

I'm always open for suggestions.

Just sitting get any from someone I trust.

Yume is actually posting. Maybe she'll finally help me figure it out.

- House

I've laid out my thoughts on the table. It's up to you to listen to them or not. Either way, I mean what I said, both here and in hydra PT.

- Frustrated one

[Mandelbrot]

Romance good. Listen to them.

- The frustrated one

[Mandelbrot]

You missed the tictac vote.

I could do tictac.

Though I call also do

VOTE: RealCheeks

[Mandelbrot]

I've debated whether I should claim this or not but I figure I should explain WHY I am very much opposed to a TC elimination today:

My role has a method which the scum cannot block, of bypassing the janitor they did on H1H2.

The scum cannot block or otherwise prevent my method of bypassing the janitor (killing me won't stop me from bypassing the janitor and due to the nature of this bypass it is immune to roleblocking), but it requires until the end of N2 in order to function.

In other words.

I very very very strongly do not want y'all to eliminate a slot that I may be able to conftown overnight.

By the start of D3, we will have a much better idea on TC and tictac thanks to my role bypassing the scum's obfuscation.

So fuck the soft guilty--give me one damn night and we might have two hard innocents that the scum can do nothing about.

Also as part of this:

protectives, do NOT protect me!

I don't need to be alive for this--in fact, being protected is actively detrimental given the method by which I can bypass the janitor

. Y'all have better folks to try and protect.

I don’t understand any of this, especially the bolded.

~R

I'm trying to figure out why mastina is essentially claiming Mafia Janitor.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Oh, never mind.

Maybe scum thought my claim could've been legit then and opted to kill no one in the sacred triangle? (Tom, Sakura, Romance)

I'm pretty sure scum didn't buy you as doctor.

I didn't.

Sakura's cc was too pure.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Investigative with hard guilty that resulted in flipped scum.

Tracker with soft guilty that turned into mush.

Third hinted investigative with no useful information thus far outed.

This game has a lot of investigative claims.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Tomorrow Corporation
Romance
Sakura
Bell
Tomorrow Corporation
mastina

Boom

Does anyone dare disagree with any of those townreads?

Okay first of all I only said five because I wanted you to give

Reasons

for them.

Secondly you put yourself on it twice and only included 4 people not yourself. You didn't even get to 5.

My vote isn't leaving you at all.

What does scum!TC get out of antagonizing you?

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Sometimes mech clears and borne of

pure vibes

.

tictac gave off such pure vibes that I wanted to clear him mechanically since faking those vibes would make you some kind of mechanical android killer, and there's no way that pure rabbit could be one.

That ISO is off the charts scummy. Dafuq are you talking about?

~R

When you leave the chart, you sometimes wrap back around to being on the chart.

TWTBAW is too ridiculous to not be ridiculous.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Titus is a tracker? If TC is vt, then how can they be tracked?

She got no result. Hence the soft guilty on what she thought was a doc claim.

Not buying the dumbtell, btw.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Tomorrow Corporation
Romance
Sakura
Bell
Tomorrow Corporation
mastina

Boom

Does anyone dare disagree with any of those townreads?

Okay first of all I only said five because I wanted you to give

Reasons

for them.

Secondly you put yourself on it twice and only included 4 people not yourself. You didn't even get to 5.

My vote isn't leaving you at all.

What does scum!TC get out of antagonizing you?

- House

What does town get keeping them alive if they aren't even doing anything? Like... Look how they're responding even now.

If they're town? The answer is obvious. Another bite at the apple.

What's your problem with that?

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Google "Alisae FFXIV"

It keeps correcting me to Alisaie

Yes but my theory is that t3 misread it and thought it was Alisae the player

T3 was probably informed a certain flavor was town but thought it was a player

Why would he assume he could clear 2 players off the flavor of one?

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Yuck

[Mandelbrot]

Eh. Mebbe.

Kinda strange to not mention the fact he had more than one reason when he was otherwise spilling his guts on d2, though.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Looking at the wiki it says Alisaie has a twin brother. Think that's related at all?

Alisaie & Alphinaud loosely reminded me of Palom & Porom from IV.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

So why is TC town again?

I can buy TC gambiting protective to fish for the nk to escape the game and help town in the process (by saving a PR attempt).

Sakura's same day cc was suboptimal, but it doesn't damn TC.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Looking at the wiki it says Alisaie has a twin brother. Think that's related at all?

T3 could have been whoever that brother is?

So... Masons? That's all I can think of if he was certain 'Alisae' was town.

Masons + all these investigative claims?

Nah fam.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Well excuse us for not knowing which alt you are TC.

Fair, tbh.

[Mandelbrot]

He probably didn't know who Alisae was given the posting so not masons. More like best friends. I saw it once in a normal (LN 233 I think)

That's a Wake role.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Well excuse us for not knowing which alt you are TC.

Wow, you're excused. This is my main.

Then how would we know you care? Why would you say you'd be serious as scum when this is your ONLY game on site? When we got nothing to compare it to?

VOTE: Elsa

I lied tbh and also think your seriousness and reactions are very scummy tbh. You seem way more annoyed than is fitting for your jokey character.

Shit push, tbh.

Elsa has his aggressive moments.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

tbh tbh?

Tbh

[Mandelbrot]

So you vote the one guy you know you have a chance to counter wagon? Fun. Voting me for trying to take the game seriously? Also fun.

I know nothing of the gamestate, I don't know who else is generally being seen as scummy outside of me.

I've watched all the reactions to my entrance and posts, and I dislike yours the most. Now, is there bias because you're the most vocal about me still being scum... probably, but you're not conceding any points. You're like a toddler who doesn't wanna let go of his miselim rattle because it felt do comfortable and assured.

Town does this a lot here, fyi.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

not conceding any points. You're like a toddler who doesn't wanna let go of his miselim rattle because it felt do comfortable and assured.

That.

-House

[Mandelbrot]

Yes kids, there are no saints.

Only shades of sinner.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

The gig's up, Elsa. You've gotten away with this tomfoolery for far too long and it's time to die. One does not simply frame lazy play as

scum

play, unless they are scum.

It is written, so it shall be, as it is.

One actually does.

Happened on d1 in Radio Buzz.

Hit scum, too.

That's not WHY scum flipped, but you can't really say it doesn't happen.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Titus is a tracker? If TC is vt, then how can they be tracked?

She got no result. Hence the soft guilty on what she thought was a doc claim.

Not buying the dumbtell, btw.

- House

I got my target went nowhere. Getting no result would be different and either a hard guilty (ascetic) or multiball.

To-may-to, po-tah-to.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

With Mastina on the raid it shouldn't fail

^

[Mandelbrot]

According to her claim, at least.

If she hops out, or if the raid fails, I'm tunneling her.

I'm already sus.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

It's okay, Elsa, I'll forgive you in time.

Should I want to be on this raid? It sounds juicy.

Not if you're VT.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

I should already be on the raid.

You're #8.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

So... mastina isnt even in the raid yet. She's like the 2nd backup.

MB should /out.

Lim Cheeks.

Problem solved.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

It's okay, Elsa, I'll forgive you in time.

Should I want to be on this raid? It sounds juicy.

Not if you're VT.

- House

You should not be on the raid but vigged at a minimum.

Who, me??

- House

[Mandelbrot]

UNVOTE:
Consider my vote spiritually on cheeks for the time being.
Dont wanna bring it closer to elim just in case while we wait for MB to out.

That's fair, but I'm staying because I don't want the wagon to vaporize and appear elsewhere unless there's good reason.

Or if Yume disagrees, of course.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

It's okay, Elsa, I'll forgive you in time.

Should I want to be on this raid? It sounds juicy.

Not if you're VT.

- House

You should not be on the raid but vigged at a minimum.

Who, me??

- House

My VERY BAD! Mistook you for TC somehow. You should be on the raid.

Can't say I've never derped.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

I don't get why people are buying mastina's claim wholesale.

Everything adds up just fine if she's scum.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Titus, watch out for Lahabrea. If you are who I expect you to be... .

I don't understand this. I never played FFXIV.

Only the coolest villain in FF history since Sephiroth.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Adding to her claim diminishes her read for me, but out the gate Day 1, Post 1 claim was a strong town tell. That being said, it's easy for a scum player to openly claim, "I can guarantee a raid's success," hence the reason her addendum to her role claim has me now raising my eyebrow.

Right? It's like she's angling to have almost as much sway over the events of the game as the moderator.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

VOTE: House
Bring back the old signature!

-Qrow

Been meaning to ask... what is signature? I think I've always had this one?

- House

[Mandelbrot]

VOTE: House
Bring back the old signature!

-Qrow

Been meaning to ask... what old* signature? I think I've always had this one?

- House

Fix't

[Mandelbrot]

Raid

Raid Queue - Titan

Success bonus for raid completion:

Gains bulletproof for one night

Queue:

1. Sakura Hana
   
2. Save The Dragons
   
3. Dwlee99
   
4. Romance
   
5. 
   
6. 
   
7. 
   

Backup

Realm Danger Level: 1

Basically this
+

RealCheeks

, Mandelbrot, Toog, Titus
+MB, mastina, Q+R, Tictac

Atp, the player I would most prefer to not go on the raid in order to make room for mastina is StD.

UNVOTE:

[Mandelbrot]

not gonna happen

So you'd rather risk the raid failing even if you're town than force mastina to let it pass or face emission on d4?

VOTE: StD

This is a fixable problem.

[Mandelbrot]

not gonna happen

So you'd rather risk the raid failing even if you're town than force mastina to let it pass or face elimination* on d4?

VOTE: StD

This is a fixable problem.

Bah

[Mandelbrot]

if you're town you want me on the raid

Y'know what? There are other options.

@Sakura: If I leave the raid, will you target me tonight since Romance is protected via mastina's role? (Obviously heal Romance if the raid fails, ofc)

[Mandelbrot]

But before you do that, do you think everyone on the current raid is town? Coz if not it's as simple as eliminating potential scum from it to make space for mastina.

I think mastina being on the raid removes scum's excuse for failing it at the very worst.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Same about STD

Were it up to me, I'd just vote them out.

They're obviously not willing to work with town.

Waiting for opinions before I jump out this time.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

If StD wasn't on the raid, I'd say save mastina's shot & lim MB if it failed.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

I was gonna vote ^, but that works too.

- Frustrated one

[Mandelbrot]

Now there is no excuse it should fail. However, I think the people with highest chance of dying tonight should now be on the raid. I'll let you all mince that out. I gave my list at the beginning of the day.

I'd have rather you been on it.

I disagree with otherhead on that.

Que sera.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Huh. Thought I was already voting TC. The more you know.

I'd rather let mastina do whatever mastina is going to do, then resolve her.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Now there is no excuse it should fail. However, I think the people with highest chance of dying tonight should now be on the raid. I'll let you all mince that out. I gave my list at the beginning of the day.

I'd have rather you been on it.

I disagree with otherhead on that.

Que sera.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Dwlee99
RealCheeks
Bell
Elsa Jay
Sakura Hana
Romance
tictac
Tomorrow Corporation

Now with the raid sorted out, this raid failed, so there's at least 1 scum in here, i know it's not me, and it's probably not Romance. That leaves us with:

Dwlee99
RealCheeks
Bell
Elsa Jay
tictac
Tomorrow Corporation

Let's suppose Mandelbrot is right and Elsa Jay is town, let's suppose Romance is right and TC is town, let's suppose TC is right and tictac's town. And let's suppose people's meta read on Bell is right, That leaves us with:

Dwlee99
RealCheeks

What do you guys think, am i removing ppl that i shouldn't? i mean step 3 is just a bunch of suppositions. But I personally townread Bell so like... this doesnt feel too hard, worst case scenario is a 50/50, best case scenario? both scum, and i'm inclined to believe dwlee0s probably town so I guess my vote would be going to RealCheeks, I just want first to sanity check on Step 3.

Additionally it would be nice if everyone did this exercise because it's a fact that the 2nd raid failed.

I'm on board with that, personally.

RC was in my PoE after the failure.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Why assume mandelbrot right on Elsa and not on me?

I'll be back tomorrow bye

Because we're a shining beacon of towniness.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

No I meant why don't they assume you're right on me

They assumed you were right on Elsa and afaict I'm a much more confident TR so it's weird for them to leave me off

cya tomorrow pt2

True. dwlee is one of my strongest TR's.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

@Dwlee99/House

1 - 17 - 13 - Done
2 - 17 - 11 - 2491
3 - 17 - 13 - TBD
4 - 17 - 11 - TBD

Continues

The 13s should be 12s and the 11s 10s.

For 3, 17 - 12 - 5? Yes, No or Confused.

@House/Dwlee

What weird code is this?

I think it's more of a hint, but I'm not getting it.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

@Dwlee99/House

1 - 17 - 13 - Done
2 - 17 - 11 - 2491
3 - 17 - 13 - TBD
4 - 17 - 11 - TBD

Continues

The 13s should be 12s and the 11s 10s.

For 3, 17 - 12 - 5? Yes, No or Confused.

@House/Dwlee

What weird code is this?

Super secret. So secret I'm not sure if they follow.

If I followed, it would likely be considered encrypted text and outlawed.

Maybe let's not do that.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Titus, I think you should brainstorm with Toog.

Between their flavor knowledge and your moon logic, it just might get us somewhere.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

It might be wise to do poe excersize with a back up because we're town. Where do you go next when that's confirmed?
Sakura do you then go dwlee?
~C

On the bright side, it's probably better to be unwanted on raids than just have everyone calling for your blood.

At least you have more time to do whatever you need to do until your alignment clarifies.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Q: if TC was joking why did they say they were trying to bait an nk?

TC wasn't joking

Join Raid

Don't test me and make me regret this decision, it's rare for me to have so much resolve in anything, but I KNOW for a fact that I want to be on this raid.

VOTE: Tomorrow Corp

I'm counter claiming if that wasnt obvious.

How about we save each other so scum can't touch us, Sakura?

Or we could randomly save Romance too so it's risky for them to target any of us.

Trying to bait the protective off the claimed investigative with a red check is NOT A TOWN STRATEGY.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

2197 quote was supposed to be 2196.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

I don't buy that H1H2 was scum janitored by scum at all.

That's

such

a weird take.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

I don't buy that H1H2 was scum janitored by scum at all.

That's

such

a weird take.

- House

Ignore that, misread.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

{Titus, Toogeloo, mastina, Sakura Hana, Save The Dragons, tictac, Mandelbrot, Romance, dwlee99}
{Tomorrow Corporation, Qrow and Raven, ArcAngel9}
{Elsa Jay, Whemestar, Mystic Bears, Bell}

Most unsure about Elsa who can swap out for someone in above tier.
~C

Of your scumreads, Wheme is the only one I'd currently consider.

AA9 being above bottom tier is meh. StD being hard town requires some sort of case.

- House

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Sigh

Whatever I dont feel like arguing with mastina when mastina is just yelling about romance and elsa jay and ignoring my questions.
Plus i think RealCheeks giving out a final reads list was probably a bit +Town points.

VOTE: Elsa Jay

Sorry House.

Do what you gotta do.

I'm just gonna sit over here preparing to laugh when the balloon pops.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

One of my current townreads will plummet if Elsa flips red, though.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

BoP on mastina if Elsa flips town.
~C

Wat.

You scumread him, too...

- House

[Mandelbrot]

One of my current townreads will plummet if Elsa flips red, though.

- House

I'm guessing Titus
~C

Not even close.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

{Titus, Toogeloo, mastina, Sakura Hana, Save The Dragons, tictac, Mandelbrot, Romance, dwlee99}
{Tomorrow Corporation, Qrow and Raven, ArcAngel9}
{Elsa Jay, Whemestar, Mystic Bears, Bell}

Most unsure about Elsa who can swap out for someone in above tier.
~C

Of your scumreads, Wheme is the only one I'd currently consider.

AA9 being above bottom tier is meh. StD being hard town requires some sort of case.

- House

- House

StD refusing to get off raid and then asking for protection is quite obviously town.
AA9 is literally a lurkbutt as either alignment.
~C
~C

Nup.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

I'm a cute weird pointed ear girl named Momodi

This flavor claim does not inspire me with confidence, but I'll defer to Toog on that because it's been years since I played.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

I'd want Toogs to weigh in on the Elsa flavor claim before even thinking of voting there.

My primary concern is that Momodi is not particularly aligned with anyone. A neutral actor. Feels to me like a possible mod-provided fakeclaim.

I want their take.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Are you obiwan kenobi Mastina?

She's Yoda.

Duh.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Don't actually answer that, it was a joke.

Is anyone going to answer me on the "TC was obviously joking, but not obviously enough for Sakura or Bell to realize they were joking and TC themselves said tey weren't doing much and were explicitely gambiting and not joking and hoping for time and space from the doctor to get night killed"

Likewise, I still need an answer on the "why would scum even claim doc out of the blue like that?" I guess the argument being made is that they wouldn't and they were obviously joking. But then we end up where we;re at with the gambit admission contradicting that.

Refer to 3476.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Don't actually answer that, it was a joke.

Is anyone going to answer me on the "TC was obviously joking, but not obviously enough for Sakura or Bell to realize they were joking and TC themselves said tey weren't doing much and were explicitely gambiting and not joking and hoping for time and space from the doctor to get night killed"

Likewise, I still need an answer on the "why would scum even claim doc out of the blue like that?" I guess the argument being made is that they wouldn't and they were obviously joking. But then we end up where we;re at with the gambit admission contradicting that.

Refer to 3476.

[Mandelbrot]

Oops.

Thought it didn't post.

Sorry.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Queue:

1. Sakura Hana
   
2. Save The Dragons
   
3. Dwlee99
   
4. Romance
   
5. Mandelbrot
   
6. Toogeloo
   
7. Titus
   
8. Mystic Bears

Backup

1. mastina
   
2. Qrow and Raven
   
3. tictac

[/area]

For the record--the only slot I really want to leave the raid is Dwlee.
Toogeloo I'm not sure is town so having Qrow/Raven in instead of Toog+Dwlee would be better imo, but the raid comp is mostly town.
Sakura's town; Romance is town; Titus's tracker claim is almost certainly town; I buy STD as town; I read both Mandelbrot and Mystic Bears as town; etc.

dwlee & Titus are with us, tonight.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

House's posts bother me a ridiculous amount. I just get these angry tingles and I think he's doing it on purpose

https://c.tenor.com/gSQ2fhJP6RkAAAAC/mi ... t-wink.gif

[Mandelbrot]

Fail.

[Mandelbrot]

Janitor is a role that when they perform a night kill the player's role and alignment are hidden from view.
So we don't know what role Q1 and Q2 were because they were janitored.

I think similarly Mystic, on house. It could just be controlling scum though. I'm not sure if I'm reading into it too much or not enough.

If you're even humoring the idea I'm scum, you're not thinking similarly to MB.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Those are d4 walls, madtina.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

I don't follow what momma bear is saying I got the claim but nothing else made sense.
Agree with Elsa TR though. Wheme, not so much. I didn't see an issue with wheme until recently and the issue is that i don't have an issue with him. Thats not supposed to happen. Like i guess its possible he got a mafia skills makeover or something but he's so null-y that I'm concerned. I'm supposed to be like death tunneling him if this was an average game. Idk but Titus on him tonight or some investigative, could be nice.

Sakura on romance.

Titus on [

toog

(lolno), wheme, arcangel] I have a couple other scum reads but I'm not going to reveal them quite yet. I'll make a better pool someday maybe if i remember. probably won't.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Are you obiwan kenobi Mastina?

If this is attempting to reference a character, I sadly have zero flavor knowledge of FFXIV so I wouldn't be able to know who this is meant to be attempting to reference, sorry.

Or Star Wars, apparently.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Also House I never said you weren't scum >.>

You didn't have to.

I could see it in your eyes.

You know.

I know.

You know I know.

I know you know I know.



- House

[Mandelbrot]

Apparently my memory is faulty as I could've sworn you were pushing TC hard and defending Elsa but actually doing an iso of your play today I'm not finding it.

That was probably me.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Or Star Wars, apparently.

I know who Obi Wan Kenobi is, at every stage of his life in fact. (Even bits not shown in the movies.)

If Bell was attempting to breadcrumb a FFIV character by invoking Obi Wan Kenobi, then that is where I am sadly inept as I wouldn't know who would be the character being compared to Obi Wan Kenobi, even if I happened to be the character Bell was attempting to reference.

I'm more of a Darth Maul guy myself, but I'm of the school of thought that the Jedi were no better than the Sith... only more politically correct.

No correlation to the game, just like calling the Jedi evil because it annoys Star Wars casuals.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Mmm my reading order got fucked up. Nancy please stop quoting long posts.

Tictac get off the raid. Massy is not full claiming. period.

When the town is being extremely dumb,
They need queen Noraa to save them all,
before the whole civilization collapses,
into dust and bits and crumbles

House is being so strange. I've never felt this way about him before. I literally can't stop thinking about this. Elsa, what thoughts do you have on House?

With mastina's presence & role being activated tonight, an unknown isn't a big deal.

Tomorrow, I'd agree with you.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

House is being so strange. I've never felt this way about him before.

Are/Were you cabd??

- House

[Mandelbrot]

This is 100% due to Yume; if the slot were just House I'd kick the slot out of town altogether and go null-at-best.

I'm actually kinda flattered, tbh.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Titus, I think we should tell mastina a secret.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Why the hell would you want to kill someone who went nowhere knowing that 2 out of 3 scum had to have acted last night and TC didn't.

Arguably 3/3 scum acted if janitor action + night kill are two separate actions. But like.

Hello?

Mechanics?

3 scum in a 17 player game?

Hello?

- House

[Mandelbrot]

...we killed one?

mastina is theorizing 5.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

5/12 feels busted imo, I'm going with 4/13.

Considering minis are 3/10, I can see that.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Regardless I find it very hard to justify killing someone who didn't do anything last night when scum can't multitask yet, among all the other things I have screamed about TC, so shrug.

I'm not the one screaming for their head.

I'm just a contrarian.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

This is a 21 player game tho

Derp. I was reading the list of alive players as the player list.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Oh duh.

I looked at the alive. >_>

4/5 then.

4/17? Meh.

5/16 sounds about right.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Like if I have to put my foot down on one elim I won't let happen, it's TC.

Just one?

So you'd let your lim happen?

You're let Sakura's happen?

You're let mastina's happen?

... wait... YOU'D LET MINE HAPPEN?!

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Like if I have to put my foot down on one elim I won't let happen, it's TC.

Just one?

So you'd let your lim happen?

You're let Sakura's happen?

You're let mastina's happen?

... wait... YOU'D LET MINE HAPPEN?!

- House

All of these people are in my "only elim in case of emergency" bucket.

Weird, because mastina is the one that can theoretically confirm TC for you.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

If flea is/was Cabd, I totally get why fae's thrown for a loop over my tone in this game.

Last Cabd knew, I was a miserable fuck that gave games a toxic atmosphere.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

But then, I've played with flea since my return, so ..

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Oh.

Then I'm just stumped.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Isn't God father bastard?

It's non-Normal, but I'm pretty sure it isn't bastard.

[Mandelbrot]

5/12 feels busted imo, I'm going with 4/13.

Wait no. it's 5. Last time i was scum in unwnd or borks game it was 5.
Tomorrow is still scum.

Tomorrow isn't. Please listen to me on this.

I got one scum so far. I have a pool. Tomorrow should not be in that pool. Thumbs up emoji.

Yeah, but you have some wtfpicks in that pool.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

5/12 feels busted imo, I'm going with 4/13.

Wait no. it's 5. Last time i was scum in unwnd or borks game it was 5.
Tomorrow is still scum.

Tomorrow isn't. Please listen to me on this.

I got one scum so far. I have a pool. Tomorrow should not be in that pool. Thumbs up emoji.

Yeah, but you have some wtfpicks in that pool.

- House

Correction: 1 wtfpick, now.

That's an improvement.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Well anyways I'm caught up. Got myself some scum reads. Successful day. Also like anyone that knows my meta should know that this is the exact sign of town noraa. In games where i don't spend that much time straight off the bat and get my town leader flag, I always get scum reads when i pick up my posting rate. Always. Meta me and you'll see that it's always like that. Every game.

Fab.

Who are they?

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Why do people think I dont answer things

If you punch yourself and it hurts, are you weak or strong?

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Well anyways I'm caught up. Got myself some scum reads. Successful day. Also like anyone that knows my meta should know that this is the exact sign of town noraa. In games where i don't spend that much time straight off the bat and get my town leader flag, I always get scum reads when i pick up my posting rate. Always. Meta me and you'll see that it's always like that. Every game.

Fab.

Who are they?

- House

uh like got people scum reading me. also i explicitly said in an earlier post that I'm not revealing my secret scum reads.

Well how are you going to get them made dead, then?

- House

[Mandelbrot]

But you're a claimed doc. Why not kill that

My role isnt necessary a threat to scum rn, they probably wanted to janitor the guy screaming

TICTAC AND TC ARE MECH TOWN CLEARS

, over someone that was guaranteed only healing Romance.
I'm pretty sure I'm dead at some point tho, Universally town read + doc after all, specially if we elim the roleblocker im pretty much dead afterwards.

Bruh don't die i need town reads i don't want to be flashwagoned in a memey plist. And by memey plist, i mean where this game is headed. I already see it.

Hey!

[Mandelbrot]

I'm not answering that

Aha!

- House

[Mandelbrot]

-House

[Mandelbrot]

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Hard Town:

Titus, Sakura Hana, Romance

Strong Town:

mastina, Qrow and Raven, Mandelbrot

Soft Town:

Elsa Jay, Whemestar, dwlee99

On the Bubble / My PoE:

Bell, ArcAngel9, Tomorrow Corporation, RealCheeks, Save The Dragons, tictac

My reads list as of right now. Soft Town is either by play (dwlee), or because of Cakez pushes on them on Day 1 (Elsa, Wheme). I want to believe Elsa's claim as well, and so I am less inclined to eliminate that slot today. My preferable lims are the on the bottom line, though I am willing to wait on tictac and TC today.

Could be a tad improved, but overall solid reads.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Yeesh I missed an entire day phase apparently.

Guess I'm annoying Nora for reads again >.<

I miss anything important in the mean time?

-A still slightly manic Flea

Yes.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

I've flipped on Sakura

Lol?

You've flipped on the un-cc'ed protective claim?

That post should have contained a vote if you wanted me to believe you.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Titus, I think we should tell mastina a secret.

- House

Mastina doesn't trust you though.

She trusts the slot.

I can't very well have a different color role pm.

She's just forgotten how to read me, which is sad because she was one of the first that could read me within my first 10 posts back in the day.

[Mandelbrot]

I'd tell Romance a secret over mastina. I trust their judgment more. I think both are town but I want secrets to be told to the people I trust to act positively with them. If you feel it's needed to get mastina straight, you do you. It's your call after all. You got my guidelines.

Your input is always appreciated.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Because It hurts to be wrong.

So nice to meet you, Chidi Aragonye.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Ok. Sure. I believe you.

You forgot the /s.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

I normally don't even do that until we get close to or are in elo.

Statements like that make me want to feed you an arsenic cocktail.

[Mandelbrot]

Because It hurts to be wrong.

So nice to meet you, Chidi Anagonye*.

- House

My b.

[Mandelbrot]

Let it be known that majority of people here value being 'right' than winning.

- Done with everything

I don't get why you feel this way tbh
I don't see how being right and winning are different here.

-Qrow

That was Yume, but I get her feels.

She is mainly referring to people demanding to get their way & damn the cost & damn anyone who disagrees because THEY FUCKING KNOW.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

VOTE: Dwlee

-Qrow

That was a Yume post.

I don't get it, personally.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Biggs and Wedge are reoccurring characters in the final fantasy series. They’re usually buddies in a militaristic outfit in whatever world they find themselves in and they were born and raised in whatever society they’re in.

They’re named after Star Wars characters actually.

Wedge also shows up in ChronoTrigger (another Squaresoft title), but he's accompanied by Vicks & Piette, if memory serves.

[Mandelbrot]

Biggs and Wedge are reoccurring characters in the final fantasy series. They’re usually buddies in a militaristic outfit in whatever world they find themselves in and they were born and raised in whatever society they’re in.

They’re named after Star Wars characters actually.

Wedge also shows up in ChronoTrigger (another Squaresoft title), but he's accompanied by Vicks & Piette, if memory serves.

Correction, Biggs is in that one too! Not Vicks.

Sorry, been ages.

[Mandelbrot]

I'm not feeling a Bell lim.

Probably better to sort him with night actions.

[Mandelbrot]

I'm not feeling a Bell lim.

Probably better to sort him with night actions.

Please don’t do this. I’m remarkably easy to sort through day play. I pretty much become unkillable during the day after a certain point.

Now I

really

want you checked.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Yes. You are. Didn’t you recently say you believed me when I Explained why I wasn’t pushing anyone too hard right now?

HEY EVERYBODY, BELL IS A PR.

Figured I'd be Captain Obvious.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Nah. You’re voting town when there’s a bunch of other options.
Why?

Wait why is Alissa requesting a self ban instead of just taking a break.

Idk but if T3 was town, he’s probably Aphinaud and has a clear on the player who has Alisaie as their flavour, so if neither TC or tictac have Alisaie flavour, it’s not them.

~R

Alphinaud*

- Pedant

[Mandelbrot]

VOTE: Mandelbrot

Good luck with that.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

good luck with your vote on me

That was ages ago.

I forgot where it was, actually.

UNVOTE:

It wasn't a high priority to me at the time, as you weren't actively being pushed anyway.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

good luck with your vote on me

Keep it up and you might just be staring down three.

He kinda had a point. I understand.

It would have annoyed me as well, in his position.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Being a contrarian with Bell, I got that.

Is a scum team going to make overt threats?

Titus and I are getting pretty good at sorting each other.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

I find it interesting that I haven't heard from d'Artagnan for a while.

What make ye of it, Aramis?

[Mandelbrot]

im still confused about this three thing

It's the number that falls between 2 and 4.

H2H

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Oh, I get it.

You wanted a convenient excuse to hop off Bell since I shouted what he was whispering loudly enough to wake the dead.

Fair play.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Oh. I thought it was you he was basically begging to stop pushing him.

My b.

[Mandelbrot]

That was Toogs.

Oops.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Dwlee99
Bell
Elsa Jay
tictac
Tomorrow Corporation

There's at least one, and I'm thinking most likely only one scum here.

That makes sense, as there is only one player in that list I'd vote toDay.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

@Titus I've been thinking about it.

Since mastina's time with us is most likely limited, it's probably best to tell her a secret while she can still act upon it.

Spoiler: For mastina's eyes ONLY

Beware the jubjub bird and shun the frumious bandersnatch.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Kind of surprised that everyone was saying that Bell had this creature style meta that led everyone to townread him D1 and now he's suddenly into a bunch of people's PoE.

Last I knew, Creature was a total lurksack as scum because he hated not rolling town.

That was ages ago.

[Mandelbrot]

I do not know Bell's meta at all, but that seemed to be the implication people mentioned back in Day 1.
Also no changing one's meta isn't as easy as it sounds for some people.

I wasn't thinking of using meta at all when playing this game tho, but I cant ignore that if i want to win.

Those who are self-aware of their meta can change it more easily.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

I kinda just wanna vote tictac :/

[Mandelbrot]

VOTE: tictac

I can do this.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Like you guys were yelling about "People value being right over winning" before, what happened now?

That was Yume.

I've been sus of tictac for a while.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

I agree with tictac possibly being scum.

House, you're confusing me. You want to tell mastina a secret but you don't want to wait on her results?

She prob does tonight.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

tictac, if you're angling for your interaction with Qrow to be written off as tvt, I ain't gonna do it.

TvT spats look nothing like this.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

I agree with tictac possibly being scum.

House, you're confusing me. You want to tell mastina a secret but you don't want to wait on her results?

She prob dies tonight.

- House

Can you rephrase?

Fix't

[Mandelbrot]

I agree with tictac possibly being scum.

House, you're confusing me. You want to tell mastina a secret but you don't want to wait on her results?

She prob dies tonight.

- House

Can you rephrase?

Fix't

She should be BP unless the mission fails, she said she would succeed even if she dies.

I would strongly prefer to reveal a secret to Romance.

You doubt the existence of Strongman?

- House

[Mandelbrot]

I would strongly prefer to reveal a secret to Romance.

Noted.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

I would strongly prefer to reveal a secret to Romance.

Spoiler: For Romance's Eyes ONLY!

All mimsy were the borogoves, and the mome raths outgrabe.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Quick, hammer him!

[Mandelbrot]

Maybe we lim outside raid until mastina's done her thing on TC?
VOTE: whemestar
~C

I don't hate the vote.

Would probably like it more if it came from a townread.

You town?

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Here is a completely arbitrary list of names in random order that has been organized from towniest to scummiest

Romance
Sakura Hana
Titus
dwlee99*

Mystic Bears (Noraa + Flea the Magician)
Elsa Jay*
Save The Dragons*
mastina
Qrow and Raven (Gamma Emerald + Nancy Drew 39)
Toogeloo

Bell
RealCheeks (RCEnigma + CheekyTeeky)
Tomorrow Corporation

Whemestar
ArcAngel9
tictac

* Tentative read pending confirmation of theory. No, I will not clarify.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

He's still butthurt that I forgot I voted him.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

RC jumping out of the raid when they did keeps them out of my red pile for now. Cooperation under suspicion is cool.

Still want to see stuff I like, though.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Tictac get off the raid.

UNVOTE: Raid

I've flipped on Sakura

#thingsthatdontmattertoday

Lets yeet Elsa

*scratches head*

Ah, fuck it.

VOTE: Whemestar

[Mandelbrot]

I still don't get that "flipped on Sakura" thing, though.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

*feel free to share why this isn’t the case.

Cuz they're town. Duh.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Dwlee99
RealCheeks
Bell
Elsa Jay
Sakura Hana
Romance
tictac
Tomorrow Corporation

Like from this list i dont really see who could be, i keep whacking my brain, ppl say TC is town, tictac's flavor claim seems to imply they are town? (hope toog helps with that), Bell's supposed to be town by meta, Romance is clearly town. I thought RealCheeks wanting to give a finals reads list was towny, could go dwlee i guess if people are that convinced EJ who keeps trying to break townreads is town.

Nope.

Neither one is a good lim.

I'd vote RC or Bell before either of those 2, no question.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

tictac's flavor claim seems to imply they are town?

Ehhh... it does, actually.

Damn

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Well, actually not mooncancer because that guy bussed his whole team. But that doesn’t apply here because he suspects me lol.

Or, you slipped and outed more info than you intended!

OHHHHHH!

- House

[Mandelbrot]

That's quite the slippery little discredit.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Hmm I ISO'd dwlee and now im thinking he's town.

d(^_^)b

- House

[Mandelbrot]

And god knows if House is even town anymore.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Mystic, do you want me to out my theory about Elsa that is pending confirmation?

Because if it's correct, I don't really think you do.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

I think Mystic Bears needs to exit the raid and Qrow and Raven needs to be on it.

Ohellno.

[Mandelbrot]

VOTE: Elsa Jay

*slaps wrist*

- House

[Mandelbrot]

I think Mystic Bears needs to exit the raid and Qrow and Raven needs to be on it.

Ohellno.

Chances of them getting night killed is close to zero. Chances of them getting off the raid is probably the same. Whatever.

VOTE: Elsa

VOTE: Toogaloo

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Yume will like that. She's been scumreading Toog for a while and I was disagreeing with her.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Stan is another way of saying “fan”
So he isn’t a fan of the Elsa Lim.

The guy that's, like, voting Elsa now, wasn't a fan of the Elsa lim earlier this day... when Elsa's play hasn't been any different than when Toog didn't want his lim...

- House

[Mandelbrot]

And yet... toog left the raid to let mastina in, in your place.

Damned shame he's pushing Elsa.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

I'm not sure what you think is toog's scum motive behind helping us find fake claims thanks to flavor.

He's going to out something he has no business outing if I'm right, and based on my interactions with a couple players, I'm pretty confident in that.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Up!

[Mandelbrot]

Frankly Toog was rude enough to interrupt me. Didn't even let me just ignore everyone wanting me to claim. Just outted me.

Dunno why they thought I was gonna claim with a week left on the clock.

Wait, you're VT?

- House

[Mandelbrot]

VOTE: Elsa Jay

[Mandelbrot]

Romance
Sakura Hana
Titus
dwlee99*

tictac
Save The Dragons*
mastina
Qrow and Raven (Gamma Emerald + Nancy Drew 39)
Toogeloo

Bell
RealCheeks (RCEnigma + CheekyTeeky)
Mystic Bears (Noraa + Flea the Magician)
Tomorrow Corporation

Whemestar
ArcAngel9
Elsa Jay

* Tentative read pending confirmation of theory. No, I will not clarify.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

If Elsa flips scum, Mystic Bears goes in my town bin.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Romance, might be a good idea to check us.

I don't feel like fighting off some hare-brained paranoia push.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Yeah in the hope scum will forget to roleblock her...>.<

They can't roleblock ALL the town PR's, and we have multiple investigatives.

I can think of 3.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

VOTE: JOIN RAID

Time for work, more later.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Mandelbrot should be higher I think.

I like where we are.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Hmm, MB probably scum from that idk.

Also:

One of my current townreads will plummet if Elsa flips red, though.

- House

I'm curious about this, since Elsa did indeed flip red.

Mystic Bears fought tooth and nail to defend Elsa when I was calling for him to leave the raid on d2.

I think it was d2?

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Hmm, MB probably scum from that idk.

Also:

One of my current townreads will plummet if Elsa flips red, though.

- House

I'm curious about this, since Elsa did indeed flip red.

Mystic Bears fought tooth and nail to defend Elsa when I was calling for him to leave the raid on d2.

I think it was d2?

- House

Like, I was getting, "shut up, we're Masons" kinda vibes from the hard defense & the way MB submitted a raid list exchanging his name for Elsa's.

[Mandelbrot]

Here's a theory about what happened day2:
Elsa is not a fall-guy-scum. Elsa is a carry-scum. Him being caught in poe was very bad for the scumteam, but he could not out because then there's nooo scumz in the raid and romance gets a strongwilled result.
Enter bears-plan, and suddenly theres a way to get someone besides Elsa to be the fall-guy. maybe someone better positioned so they get some miseets out of it too. So that's why Raven was so hyped to get raiding.
they actually did intend to use the plan to switch places w elsa, and that is why that is the framing they keep using.
only things got cut short by AA and TC, soo i'm thinking those slots are associative probtown.

Would be interested in what do you think of the theory that scum was a bit slow to join day 2 raid, but at the time they didnt know who the guilty was in, so since it was on cakez, EJ would not be able to leave, and Mystic Bears proposed raid adjustment was to help EJ get out of the raid while also failing it.

Why did EJ need to get out of the raid? Sorry im lost here

Also im here gz on catching scum guys this is twice now that I come back to catch up and suddenly realize its night but I guess I can't be upset at it

I was making a big deal about booting him.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

VOTE: mandelbrot

Good luck with that.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

VOTE: Mandelbrot
~C

There was pretty good resistance to the EJ wagon at first, even tho mystic bears said the opposite. Then suddenly when toog outs EJ's flavor claim as a VT the wagon finishes.

Likely a deep wolf in either Toog/Mandelbrot.
~C

Translation: I have to find an excuse to vote a towny motherfucker.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Below is a long selection of quotes from RealCheeks. I think they are scum based on these quotes and progression on Elsa. Calling my pool bad but essentially mirroring it, being flip-floppy around Elsa, all that. Trying to find the other options. And now the posts they're making.

Spoiler:

Interesting split around flipping TC.
Dwlee, Elsa, Titus pushing for flip now.
Romance, mastina, MB for flip after clear fail.
This is a note to myself.
~C

Like I am the person who has gotten us scum so far. Put some faith into me, and look at Elsa/Wheme/Bell/Toog/Cheeks. That’s my pool.

Your pool is crap.
~C

Eh. Sorry RCE is MIA and I don't really care about this game. Romance scumpool still sucks. Watch all the people who said they prefer us to Elsa then lim Elsa tomorrow.

Someone on the last raid is scum and it isn't us. Glgl.
~C

I would go Bell > TC > Elsa. I agree dwlee probably town even with resistance to moving off TC. The whole TC push and drop should be looked into.
~C

Wheme/Elsa/Bell/Mystic Bears.
~C

{Titus, Toogeloo, mastina, Sakura Hana, Save The Dragons, tictac, Mandelbrot, Romance, dwlee99}
{Tomorrow Corporation, Qrow and Raven, ArcAngel9}
{Elsa Jay, Whemestar, Mystic Bears, Bell}

Most unsure about Elsa who can swap out for someone in above tier.
~C

Yeah probably just Elsa + another buddy on raid. I'd look for two in raid and 2-3 out of it. Use next raid as a check.
~C

{Titus, Toogeloo, mastina, Sakura Hana, Save The Dragons, tictac, Mandelbrot, Romance, dwlee99}
{Tomorrow Corporation, Qrow and Raven, ArcAngel9}
{Elsa Jay, Whemestar, Mystic Bears, Bell}

Most unsure about Elsa who can swap out for someone in above tier.
~C

Of your scumreads, Wheme is the only one I'd currently consider.

AA9 being above bottom tier is meh. StD being hard town requires some sort of case.

- House

- House

StD refusing to get off raid and then asking for protection is quite obviously town.
AA9 is literally a lurkbutt as either alignment.
~C
~C

I'd compromise on RealCheeks just by virtue of how pro-scum they've been this dayphase

Yeah gonna need some elaboration here when I've supported you today and made room for you on the raid. Geez some people.
~C

It came to me while I was doing dishes that Bell is the most likely scum on the raid, as scum need to be townread to influence raids and Bell would have felt pretty darn safe with us, Elsa, tictac, dwlee to push the fail button.
I don't doubt the prophetic power of dish soap.
~C

Toog why have we moved down into your PoE group and Elsa has moved up?
~C

Dwlee99
Bell
Elsa Jay
tictac
Tomorrow Corporation

There's at least one, and I'm thinking most likely only one scum here. If there were more than one or If their roleblocker was on the raid then I believe scum would have rather allowed a few town to have strong x than risk ousting themselves. Scum likely would've steered clear of this raid except the townread/scumread enough patsy for fear they'd give themselves away due to reward looking proscum.

It could be as simple as either Elsa or T. There's probably clear evidence in the past day phase of scum hopping off the wagon when the patsy scum go on, but it's probably not worth the effort until a red flip. Interestingly the NK happened outside the raid group, which means scum did not feel threatened by town PRs on raid (discounting romance/Sakura who were likely interfered with or protected).

Dwlee being in first could be strategic scum play, and they're similar to Bell in terms of towncred. TC couldn't have known that they would make it into the raid group at the time they signed up, Elsa joining raid only makes sense as suicidal scum which I don't think they would do tbh. It's more likely people are townreading a scum whose team was confident enough in their towncred to pull the trigger on an almost complete town wagon.
~C

I’m still wondering if Toog is just obvscum who’s the type to play really rigidly as scum with a cookie cutter outlook.

It's possible.

He spent quite a bit of time trying to get in the pockets of dwlee and Mandelbrot

This feels a bit slippy.
~C

Maybe we lim outside raid until mastina's done her thing on TC?
VOTE: whemestar
~C

I'm just not feeling Elsa scum at all tbh
~C

Toog, MB, Wheme, TC?

Elsa is scum because Momodi is a Vanilla Townie at best. There is no information to share.

My hero solve as of this very second is Elsa, Wheme, Mystic Bears, and Mandelbrot (my deep wolf pick).

I think Mystic Bears needs to exit the raid and Qrow and Raven needs to be on it.

Why not vote Elsa then?
~C

I think Mystic Bears needs to exit the raid and Qrow and Raven needs to be on it.

Ohellno.

Chances of them getting night killed is close to zero. Chances of them getting off the raid is probably the same. Whatever.

VOTE: Elsa

Nevermind.
VOTE: Elsa
It's eh but better than letting the day and each consecutive day stall out over Elsa.
~C

On the off chance it's not TC Elsa, who on the raid do you think is most likely?
~C

UNVOTE:

VOTE: RealCheeks

I can easily see myself voting here after ketchup.

[Mandelbrot]

Elsa Jay (9):

mastina, tictac, Tomorrow Corporation, Romance, Sakura Hana, Titus, Toogeloo, RealCheeks, Mandelbrot

I think literally everyone on this list is townier than RealCheeks except for maybe Toog, but Toog isn't making bad posts right now. I can put /enough/ stock into the flavor stuff for now to think that if anyone is bussing, it's RealCheeks.

Toog was the catalyst of yesterDay's scum flip.

Without outing Momodi as VT, that elimination wouldn't have gone through.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Town should just put you on mute. Ok I'm done being grumpy.
Fine voting LHF if you prefer but if you decide on us w/e just don't let Mandel toog cruise to end game.
~C

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[Mandelbrot]

Town should just put you on mute. Ok I'm done being grumpy.
Fine voting LHF if you prefer but if you decide on us w/e just don't let Mandel toog cruise to end game.
~C

[Mandelbrot]

Fun tidbit: on the night I was roleblocked I was checking Elsa Jay.

Hey Romance, do you want to throw a name at us?

You know what I mean.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

VOTE: realcheeks

There just might be hope for you, yet.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

RealCheeks is probably town throwing a tantrum but sometimes you need to put down daffy ducks.

No.

VOTE: RealCheeks

They're just scum.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Hm.... Sakura?

That checks out.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Can I get added to that

Your performance which looked promising at first has yet to produce results.

There is only one reason I've not allocated you to the scum pile at this point.

I'm sure you know what that is.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

@Romance, dwlee knows.

Weigh that in your consideration.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Same reason you trusted Titus, I assume?

No. I independently townread Titus.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Can I get added to that

Your performance which looked promising at first has yet to produce results.

There is only one reason I've not allocated you to the scum pile at this point.

I'm sure you know what that is.

- House

Also I didn't really vibe with the Elsa wagon but like what of my reads do you disagree with that you think I'm not getting results

You know what I'm referring to.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Okay, let's expand our towncore a bit then.

(Mastina, Dwlee99)

Not dwlee

Yes, dwlee.

Romance knows. You don't, yet. I understand.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

I /think/ I would take out Mystic Bears as well.

Hard disagree.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

I /think/ I would take out Mystic Bears as well.

Hard disagree.

- House

How much experience do you have with them?

I have experience with Elsa being satisfied having his name left out of the raid with MB's in his place.

I'm never trusting that slot.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

I'd rather flip RC.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

I have experience with Elsa being satisfied having his name left out of the raid with MB's in his place.

I'm never trusting that slot.

Ah I see.
Do you think toog is town?

I'm willing to give him town cred for his role in eliminating Elsa.

If he was scum with Elsa, no way did that flavor get 1) claimed in the first place, and 2) called out.

Elsa wagon probably dies yesterDay without him.

- House