Town Lean: marcistar, Dunnstral, Gamma, datisi, fireisred, gorilla, Meuh
Null: VP, Tako
Sus: Fey
Scum Lean: LavarManos, Val, Lukewarm, Bell
No posts or actual content to read: Cakez, Enchant, Dwlee, Rhyme No Reason, LLD
Yeah, I mean, looking at it I kinda fiured there was no strong reason for the gorilla vote, but still, you picked someone who showed up, and put an RVS vote in a ood way to go, like, who actually thinks we get anything by pressuring Datisi in RVS? I think that entire wagon was dumb, and people lost our good opportunity to actually get something from the first wagon.In post 96, Gammagooey wrote:@Kovu - at the time I voted gorilla I had no read on them whatsoever fyi. Their posts this page especially are p. good so far tho. Also think that the amount of effort you seem to be putting into analyzing the first 3 pages of the game is prooobably overkill but that's mostly just my personal thoughts of what actually matters/what's actually alignment relevant being usually not distinguishable from just people being themselves this early on; as long as you're not committed to those being Important Reads 4 Life tho you do you though, it'll at least be useful for people reading you
And my friend. Who I SR the most, how could I forget you. you have not improved like at all, and I really wish more people would've put pressure here, but whatever. So first:In post 91, LavarManos wrote:Meh, I don't agree that it was a good post. I don't see why early bandwagon votes are that bad, but I do think it still is generally thought of as "scummy". So I thought Dunnstral was taking advantage of that to wk Datisi.In post 81, Kovu wrote:Why are you squinting your eyes at 50? It was a really good post, you just agree with the terrible 2 votes? Like, seriously, what do you think of Val and Tako.
For Val, nulltown maybe? Tako genuinely could be scum though. I can agree that the content is not great there.
I mean, I like to think mine are easy to read, and I try to make them clearly marked with who they're directed at, so I don't see the issue? You don't have to TR me No, like, do what you wantIn post 169, Val89 wrote:...followed by 4 giant posts, some of which are critizing others for giant posts.
Is this another one of those internal contradictions I kept getting told in other games I'm supposed to find townie, but I still can't bring myself to do it?
I mean, what kind of reaction do you expect Datisi to give? Cause I know I don't expect Datisi to really react to a RVS wagon where half the votes are just naked and saying nothingIn post 169, Val89 wrote:You say this like there is something obvious those of us on the Datisi wagon are missing. For the benefit of those of us who aren't as intimately familiar with Datisi as you are, why do you say pressure there was pointless?
Oh I know who this is... lmao ok, just cause Andante plays that way doesn't mean that's how Kovu plays... and honestly, I don't appreciate these negative posts towards me, like, both times you've addressed me they've been negative, I'm not sure what exactly I did to anger you, but can't we just leave the past in the past?? I was real excited for this gameIn post 171, Fey wrote:Kovu has a tendency to be self-contradictory and erratic a lot in play. It can be a lot to try to follow sometimes. Give them a few days to see what they do/vote/etc and judge from there.
well you seemed to imply some exact moment was importantIn post 222, Dunnstral wrote:However, Kovu says they think they know Fey's identity in post 172, but they already thought that somebody in maf chat revealed their identity in post 164.
cause I was thinking Luke town, so I wanted to share? At least I'm outing my thoughts, like where's your reads?In post 224, Dunnstral wrote:Why did you say this?In post 164, Kovu wrote:A good part of me wants to call Luke town for not knowing who I am tbh, cause I know someone in maf chat has said who I am, it's not hard to figure out, but then I think about it, and Luke says he looked at my "1 game, and I didn't out reads there" ok sure, but I definitely outed myself that game, so like, you didn't see that happen? but you read it? interesting... idk, it's not a solid read I'd die on, but found it worth mentioning.
well I have reasons, and it’s also like, what maf team doesn’t share info like that, that they know? but it’s mostly reasons I can’t say, so like, yeah. what are your reads looking like?In post 230, Dunnstral wrote:I mean, why do you think the mafia team is discussing your identity? How did you get to that?
so you're town locking dunn for the exact reasons I no longer TR him? nothing about that was related to the game at all, and where is game related content from dunn? I'm not seeing any. Feels like a really odd reason to town lock himIn post 265, Lukewarm wrote:Sorry I have not been here. Been running a little thin.
Main take away from the last couple pages is that I'm pretty sure dunn is always town here. I don't think scum dunn ever makes that argument about kovu (regardless of kovus alignment)
ah yeah, the person I'm voting was the one to call enchant town...In post 294, LavarManos wrote:For Enchant tho, I feel like he would be doing more as scum.
Well I'm voting 1, and Invictus killing another, which is more than you've done sooooIn post 337, Enchant wrote:How many scum you killed today?In post 334, Kovu wrote: - making bad reads like this
I hate when people bring up self meta... literally the meta I have for you right now says you're scum, you want me to just sheep that?? like if YOU are bringing up your own meta, it means you're aware of it, and normally people only mention it if they think they're mirring their town meta, but like, here it really feels like this is textbook scum!bell to me, and you going "BELIEVE THE META ON MEE" isn't helpingIn post 341, Bell wrote:To be fair, meta is a very good way to read me. Most of the time.
what are your thoughts on Lava calling Enchant town cause "scum enchant would do more"In post 343, Bell wrote:Yes, please sheep your meta unto scum me.
same, so like did that feel like TMI from lava to you or like what? cause that's the 2nd time I believe Lava has had tmi on people...In post 348, Bell wrote:I've never seen Enchant do a goddamn thing as either alignment.In post 346, Kovu wrote:what are your thoughts on Lava calling Enchant town cause "scum enchant would do more"In post 343, Bell wrote:Yes, please sheep your meta unto scum me.
so what I'm getting from this, it doesn't bother you at all that lava said "enchant would do more as scum" implying a TR... at this phase where enchant has barely postedIn post 353, Bell wrote:I don't really know how much Lavar has played with enchant, but the general mindset progression of enchant from game to game should be.
"what the fuck are they doing?" -> "There must be a pattern!" -> "Heres a meta tell I thought up of how to differentiate between them, Oh, I was wrong." -> "Maybe this meta tell will work? Opps still wrong" -> "dayvig enchant" *coin flips*
So I'm scum here because I'm mad 8 people aren't doing shit? are you freakin seruious right now...In post 356, VP Baltar wrote:In post 332, Kovu wrote:honestly I'd love to hear more on the Bell TRs, cause this isn't exactly mirroring the bell!town I'm familiar with, this bell isn't doing too much, but it's also like half this freaking table is doing nothing, soooo idk, someone called enchant town right? I'm also really curious on that.... cause enchant is one that still has 0 contentWhy are you complaining so much this game? There was just a string of posts from gamma/bell/fire/meuh that you could have said something about. This feels performative.In post 334, Kovu wrote:In what world does enchant give MORE as scum? we barely even get anything from town!enchant as it is, like, the fact this game is
- no one doing anything
- making bad reads like this
I am genuinely just annoyed tbh, like can people DO SOMETHING??? like literally, half the table is doing nothing, has done nothing, I don't care that half yall are V/LA, you gave nothing when you were here, so am I just supposed to sit here for 3 more days just waiting for you to show up and say something? this is seriously annoying
In a scum!Bell world, I'd look at Kovu and Enchant next. Both are making nonsense posts that aren't pushing anyone.
so my bad... I should just sit back and not care about the game right? you have 0 problem with people doing that... like, SO WHAT PEOPLE ARE VLA?? they could've given literally ANYTHING before going V/LA but there's 8 entire slots of nothing...In post 356, VP Baltar wrote:Why are you complaining so much this game?
wanna ellaborate more on how my posts are shit? I'm all ears.In post 356, VP Baltar wrote:I'd look at Kovu and Enchant next. Both are making nonsense posts that aren't pushing anyone.
what are you talking about??In post 370, Bell wrote:It's OOG stuff having to do with being self-conscious about Prism and wanting to perform but it's awkward to talk about.
It's probably just life stuff. Though yes. Sircakez scum sucks uniquely to sircakez town.
jk I was hella confused for a second.In post 371, Kovu wrote:what are you talking about??In post 370, Bell wrote:It's OOG stuff having to do with being self-conscious about Prism and wanting to perform but it's awkward to talk about.
It's probably just life stuff. Though yes. Sircakez scum sucks uniquely to sircakez town.
what even... so I'm supposed to sit here screaming for blood all game? oh my bad, it's a little hard to do with 8 slots doing absolutely nothing to advance the game. Yeah I posted a readslist, so what? it was largely just asking a bunch of questions to people? you ever think I'm tired of playing like I'm "out for blood" Fey literally just spent a game yelling at me for "throwing" while I was town I figured, new account, we're keeping the tryhard mode, less "shenanigans" more organized thoughts... and you're shitting on me for what?? trying? giving reads? wow.. so freaking scummyIn post 376, VP Baltar wrote:Town andante wants blood. Kovu is a snoozefest of petty complaints.
I don't want a bell yeet today so idk what you're even going at, Lava was my scummiest read but you just decided you wanted to claim scum, so we can get you first sureIn post 377, VP Baltar wrote:Both are being independently useless and bemoaning in their own way how people posting in the game right now, which is primarily coalescing around a Bell yeet today, fmpov.In post 373, Meuh wrote:...and how do those reads relate to the prospect of Bell flipping scum?
It reads to me like an effort to shift the status quo without drawing too much attention.
exactly my same thought. especially when you're a slot that has no content, and what is there isn't great.. then you're able to come in and drop a bunch of thoughts when prodded? it's like, how can you give this much effort now.. but nothing earlier??In post 431, Bell wrote:Uh, if you're starting with "This won't be real content" just wait. If you're on V/LA.
Just hang out in V/LA land. That's okay.
Also, what in the actual...In post 441, SirCakez wrote:LLD is town LOL
weird thing to sayIn post 433, marcistar wrote:dw bell, his scumbuddies prob just warned him his name was brought up a few timesIn post 431, Bell wrote:Uh, if you're starting with "This won't be real content" just wait. If you're on V/LA.
Just hang out in V/LA land. That's okay.
In post 390, Val89 wrote:Still skimming, but is anyone else getting the feeling from the last couple of pages that Kovu really wants someone to scumread me for a lack of activity, and is getting frustrated noone is biting?
In post 405, Val89 wrote:I also see Kovu revote LavarManos, and my recollection was that the genesis of that read was that Lavar hadIn post 399, Bell wrote:I don't even see the motivation for Val to point this out, perhaps because Kovu called them out specifically by name and it bothered them, but instead of directly asking Kovu about that, they asked the crowd instead. It's not strange per se, but it's not direct either which could be either preference in being indirect or because they want something else out of their post and others responing to it.
The way they phrased it seemed to be that Kovu was specifically trying to kill them, but there's little reason from that perspective to suspect one player is having it out for one specific player when there are plenty of other players that you could go for. There's even more interest toward other inactives from other player statements. It could be a mistake of ego, but I fin it either poorly worded or poorly thought out.to not call me scummy, and the fact they even considered me 'nulltown' must be evidence of TMI, and out of all the reads and justifications given, that was the one that warranted Kovu's vote. The very fact that comprehensive list of leads came shortly after I decided I didn't think a comprehensive reads list was a good idea in this setup felt like a pointed rejection of that premise, same with Datisi, whom, spoiler alert, I don't exactly trust right now.dared
So yeah, maybe it is ego, but it does appear Kovu has somewhat of a preoccupation with my slot.
honestly, I think I've only played with LLD once and she was super towny, and yeah. Now there's just nothingIn post 449, Bell wrote:People that know LLD tend to treat them differently. Players rarely treat her as just another mafia player. Well, most people treat people like not just another mafia player when they get to know them a few times, but it deviates a lot differently and in weird directions.
that was legit just "I'll skim the next 5 pages quote a few things react with a sentence and call it a day. To my knowledge, last time Cakez was just behind all game he was maf, but I mean, I do like that he's giving thoughts now I guess, but still, it's like, why can you do it upon being prodded, but you can't do it at literally any other time... Val showed up as I was talking about Val, Enchant showed up as I was talking about EnchantIn post 451, Bell wrote:Well, that was a solid post from Sircakez in a sort of, 'Okay those are some reads and some light content I guess.' way. My vindictus shot is still there. though I doubt I'll ever get to use it.
Why wouldn't I be dead serious? I do not care that it's a holiday TOMORROW game started 3 days ago, and I saw 8 people had less than 10 posts, I feel like 10 posts over 3 days is a very reasonable expectation, like, if people aren't going to do anything, why not give stuff to look towny, so those of us who actually want to play the game, have something to read. wild concept I knowIn post 412, Gammagooey wrote:I know you're being sarcastic here
I beg to differ... I complained and both Val and Enchant showed upIn post 479, VP Baltar wrote:@kovu - I'm making the point that you complaining about it doesn't change the fact people are gone
I do believe you're a fan of mine, yes, and the issue is that makes me TR you, so like, if you were maf.. I wouldn't know cause you've tricked meIn post 483, Enchant wrote:But i come because i wanted thou, what you think i am your fan or something? Well a bit, perhaps.In post 480, Kovu wrote:I beg to differ... I complained and both Val and Enchant showed upIn post 479, VP Baltar wrote:@kovu - I'm making the point that you complaining about it doesn't change the fact people are gone
"saw wagons going here, I'll place my vote on this wagon with momentum then leave"In post 305, Dwlee99 wrote:VOTE: Bell
Moved in, saw wagons are shifting here. This + marci competing is good
that's the only thing weird? not the fact Val literally only talked to/about me the entire first part of this game? People giving val the same answers I'd give, and val goig "no! I want to hear kovu!"In post 600, LavarManos wrote:I find it weird that Val didn't reelly respond to anything Lukewarm said about him
VOTE: Val
This post screams scum claim to me, that vote on RR with 0 explanation, 0 acknowledgement. 0 attempt to talk to RR, that vote is SO BADIn post 660, Meuh wrote:I wanted to see where it went and he had good vibes as of that time anywaysIn post 637, SirCakez wrote:why sheep Lavar here? that's such an odd pick to follow of all people this gameIn post 296, Meuh wrote:I’m willing to sheep you on this and my vote fulfills essentially the same purpose on Enchant than on Tako. I wanna see where this goes and you’ve had good vibes as of late anyways
Why not kill me?In post 651, SirCakez wrote:okay my brain is hurting I don't want to post anymore
I want to kill one of these people (baltar, val, rhyme and reason, dwlee, tako/mala, marci)
these people are in my townbin (kovu, lavar, gamma, gorilla, luke, dunn)
everyone else whatever
VOTE: Rhyme and Reason
Cakez is still like a fine lim I guess, but not what I'd prefer really
Also deadline is closer than I thought, we have under 3 days till day ends
Ok I mean, why would you expect anyone this game to be waiting for your imput on anything? like, this slot started the game by talking in Shakespeare and yall are keeping up this way of talking that's just extremely hard to read, and then even with the way you type, there's no content, nothing to interact with, if you give stuff to interact with I'll happily give questions, like, do we have to ask you "What are your reads looking like?" "Who do you think is maf?" for you to give reads? you can't just complain you get accused of lurking... like, if you literally give ANYTHING someone will interact with it...In post 622, Rhyme and Reason wrote:It's how it goes in every game I play.
I go on V/LA; when I return
I get accused of lurking, and I ask
What people want to hear from me, and then...
nobody ever answers. Hence that line.
-Reason
what do you mean by this? you want me to vote you?