Street Fighter Mafia [GAME OVER]

[zakk]

If ranger or dunn flips town antihero is confirmed scum unless the masons are scum

I think me and Ranger are both town.

Lol

This just sounds terrible

[zakk]

Suzune...


You're weird.



It's a weird I think I can live with tho.

[zakk]

If ranger or dunn flips town antihero is confirmed scum unless the masons are scum

Or nos as traitor

But regardless

We narrow out the non-pair non-Dwlee pool, which are the people I'm not sure are town

[zakk]

I have had an independent town read on anti like literally all game tho

I really really really think it's Dunn/ranger



I do want to hear anti and nos speak up tho

[zakk]

Suzune.

Come.

[zakk]

I think an anti flip might be good here

If ranger flips town I will consider anti

If ranger flips scum I want dunnstral dead

In no case will I consent to Suzune or I being lynched

Also, a quick skim of my posts JUST MY posts, JUST today, is MORE than enough to conclude that BOTH Suzune and I are town

I recommend anyone who has any doubts about our alignment just read our posts

[zakk]

If today's lynch flips town, there are these possibilities.

A mason, or antihero, or Nos, WILL die.

If antihero, then it's masons + nos vs scum, unless nos is a traitor
If Nosferatu, then it's masons + antihero, unless antihero bussed Varsoon

Town has a neighborizer and masons
Scum has a neighborhood spy
Antihero is an even night PT detector

Let me look at flips

[zakk]

Living Players:

04 Ranger - Makoto - VT claim
07 Nosferatu - Akuma - VT claim w/"no PT" result from Antihero
08 Suzune - R.Mika - Mason - confirmed by zakk
10 Dwlee99 - Rashid - VT claim
14 zakk - Zangief - Mason - confirmed by Suzune
16 Antihero - Chun Li - odd night PT detector w/"no PT" result on Nosferatu
19 Dunnstral - Alex - VT claim

Dead Players:

12 Brian Hollywood

(Karin, Vanilla Townie)

Was Lynched on Day 1

11 DrippingGoofball

(Adon, Vanilla Townie)

Was Killed on Night 1

15 PeregrineV

(Q, Mafia Neighborhood Spy)

Was Killed on Day 2

21 Titus

(Juri Han, Mafia Roleblocker & One-Shot Strongman)

Was Lynched on Day 2

03 beeboy

(Vega, Town Tracker)

Was Killed on Night 2

02 SirCakez

(Cammy, Vanilla Townie)

Was Lynched on Day 3

18 Heat

(Sakura Kasugano, Town Neighborizer & De-Neighborizer)

Was Killed on Night 3

20 Varsoon

(Rolento, Mafia Goon)

Was Lynched on Day 4

05 Nero Cain

(Skullomania, Town Strong-Willed Delayed One-Shot Day-Vigilante & Conditional Bomb)

Was Killed on Night 4

06 Fire Assassin

(M. Bison, Vanilla Townie)

Was Lynched on Day 5

09 TiphaineDeath

(Elena, Town Conditional Bulletproof/Double Doctor)

Was Killed on Night 5

13 TheWayItEnds

(Dudley, Vanilla Townie)

Was Lynched on Day 6

01 Almost50

(Dan, Town Cowardly Hider)

Was Killed on Night 6

17 Luna Fox

(Urien, Vanilla Townie)

Was Killed on Night 6

Important Events:

Day 1 Begins
Antihero replaces SoulEaterQUEEN
Dunnstral replaces Jackrito
Day 1 Ends with the Lynch of Brian Hollywood
Night 1 Ends with the Death of DrippingGoofball

Day 2 Begins
zakk replaces Kappy
Luna Fox replaces Prophylaxis
PeregrineV is Killed During Day 2
Day 2 Ends with the Lynch of Titus
Night 2 Ends with the Death of beeboy

Day 3 Begins
Day 3 Ends with the Lynch of SirCakez
Night 3 Ends with the Death of Heat

Day 4 Begins
Day 4 Ends with the Lynch of Varsoon
Night 4 Ends with the Death of Nero Cain

Day 5 Begins
Day 5 Ends with the Lynch of Fire Assassin
Night 5 Ends with the Death of TiphaineDeath

Day 6 Begins
Day 6 Ends with the Lynch of TheWayItEnds
Night 6 Ends with the Deaths of Almost50 and Luna Fox

Day 7 Begins

[zakk]

If ranger flips town I will consider anti

No

If Ranger flips town the masons are lynched

That's never gonna happen while I'm alive


(kek)

[zakk]

Hmmmmmm

Yea. Suz and Dwlee, I think it miiiiiiiight be ranger town this time. More sure on Dunn after that ranger post, specifically the attitude. Also Ranger heavily wanting to lynch me and suz (I iso'd you recently ranger, and I saw that you were heavily campaigning for Suz as scum too) and I feel like that's another strong reason we're both alive, and perhaps Ranger too

Ranger do you have scum meta I can see pls? Your last 3 scum games pls

Thx

[zakk]

If ranger flips town I will consider anti

No

If Ranger flips town the masons are lynched

That's never gonna happen while I'm alive


(kek)

ok then

VOTE: zakk

Each time you post I wanna lynch you more

Each time ranger posts I wanna lynch her less

Keep posting pls LOL

[zakk]

UNVOTE: btw

[zakk]

Hey ranger what's your opinion on the fact that EITHER anti or nos could mechanically be scum?

[zakk]

FUCKKKK i'm having a really hard time seeing Ranger as scum now

I will need to read your games tomorrow because I'm behind on sleep and it's 2 AM

But yeah as long as there's nothing pretty close to this I'm pretty sure I don't want to lynch you today anyway

If you're scum, I know I'm not going to change your mind ever
If you're town, I probably won't be able to either, unfortunately


However I'm not really freaking out because I know that even if one of the Masons gets lynched today, town is still in a really good spot

Because one of us will be confirmed town tomorrow, unless they kill us overnight. And if they kill us overnight, then antihero will be able to get a private topic result on a claimed VT, and our likelihood of lynching scum tomorrow will skyrocket either way

Still, I kind of want to find the scum today

[zakk]

Omfg there's TWENTY THREE scum games in there?

I was expecting like 5 or 6 ... whoa

Lol ummmm. I guess I will skim some of them tomorrow

I think I'll probably start with mass effect because I was in that one and it will probably grease some brain wheels

[zakk]

we've got time

Countdown: (expired on 2016-08-17 20:00:00)

[zakk]

also suzune has informed me via PT that she doesn't have time to make a lengthy post explaining why, but she also believes Ranger is less likely to be scum due to recent posting

[zakk]

her actual words were even shorter; approximately that she doesn't think it is ranger

[zakk]

You keep saying it's less likely to be ranger but don't actually have any thoughts on who the mafia is if ranger is town

well if ranger were to flip town

at that point obviously it would be either:

1. dunn and nosferatu (traitor)
2. dunn and antihero (bussed varsoon), or
3. antihero (bussed varsoon) and nosferatu (doesn't even have to be a traitor in this scenario)

i highly doubt it's antihero for multiple reasons.

i've suspected ranger and nosferatu for a long time.
the ONLY reason i wrote nosferatu off as town initially was because of the antihero claim

and a traitor would certainly make sense as a "godfather" type role
especially given the "cop" we have is not a cop at all.

so with all possible scenarios considered, the people i want to lynch, in the order i want to lynch them, are:

1. dunnstral or ranger (haven't decided)
2. the other one of the two
3. if they don't both flip scum, then nosferatu

but if nosferatu is town and antihero is scum and i'm misreading things pretty bad (hey it could -- and often does -- happen):

then that scenario will be a scum win.

but i don't think antihero is scum.

[zakk]

one of the main things i think feels weirdly ... town(ish?) about ranger is that she doesn't seem to care which mason we lynch

and that would ostensibly only be because she ACTUALLY REALLY BELIEVES we are scum, but then it's also really weird that she's completely adamant about one of us being lynched TOOOOODDDAAAYYYYYY even though if she were town she'd be open to the idea that she was wrong and one of us might be alive tomorrow, which would mean she'd probably try to keep the useful one of us alive, like dwlee said... when he actually considered the possibility of us being town AND me bullshitting (which scum would know... but Dwlee seemed very "due diligence" when it came

agh. it's all rationalization at this point. almost anything can be rationalized.

i kind of want to die. but i kind of want to live and figure everything out.

[zakk]

i STILL think a50's probably town

i still think ranger's probably town

i still think dunn's probably town

i still think luna's probably town

zakk swayed me on dwlee

who am i fucking up on?

you tell me

who are you fucking up on?

[zakk]

Gah scum is probably laughing that there's one vote on each of 4 ppl -__-

[zakk]

explain how Nosferatu can be scum with anyone other than anti when anti has an inno on him

traitors don't have private topics

ergo a traitor would be a functional godfather to a private topic detector

fuck, dwlee, even nosferatu mentions this possibility

get your head out of your ass.

[zakk]

Oh yea that makes sense now lol

I was like

Bruh

[zakk]

Vote: dunnstral

Ready af to flip this

[zakk]

heh

First vote of the game may have been right after all.

VOTE: Dunnstral

Policy

if Dunn is scum

remember remember the

5th of November

9th of July

[zakk]

Reread antihero btw

Hella townie

[zakk]

IF Dunn flips town it's ranger/Nos

[zakk]

Luna may very well be scum. If one or both of Ranger and Nos flip town then I will definitely be forced to consider that possibility

But I trust my reads so far and I have very little reason to suspect her of anything so let's just stay the course and continue lynching scum

Ranger voting Nos and me is ???

Okay so

if ranger was scum ...

would she be trying to lynch one of us knowing one of us would flip Mason and then she'd look like an idiot and be right back where she started being wagoned?

Hmmmmm



Also, if ranger AND Nosferatu are both tow n, who is scum then?


Signs point to dunnstral + 1

Hashtag consistent theme in suspicion

Dunn
Ranger
Nos

Weird. Why are they still alive

Bad zakk -__-

Should have iso'd *myself* more, tbh

[zakk]

I think ranger and nos are scum

Oh damn way earlier too

Fuck me

[zakk]

"Bruh. Listen to your gut more, you must."

–Broda

[zakk]

Isoing Dunn bc I remember thinking he was town for something

Gotta suss out all these three pairs still

Dunn-Nos
Dunn-Ranger
Nos-Ranger

[zakk]

I want someone defending Ranger to instead of saying how what she is doing is null to instead why what she is doing is town.
Thanks.

I'm not defending her, she's been completely irrelevant the whole game, I'm fine with her being lynched, I just believe in PV more.

[zakk]

Not Nos either ^

It's Dunn/Ranger

Dunn keeps trying to make everyone lost faith in the strength of their reads
Ranger is trying to lynch one of the masons so hard that all other things have faded into the background

And I'm more sure about Dunn because ranger is pulling off some really townie looking Appeals to Emotion

So let's lynch Dunn and call it a day

Whenever y'all are ready. No rush.

[zakk]

Do you really think there is a traitor to further reduce the power of an investigative role? I think if dunn flips town anti is confirmed scum

That is kinda why I wanna lynch Dunn instead

Bc I have a nagging doubt I am wrong about ranger

But now nothing is stopping me from knowing Dunn is scum

[zakk]

And Dunn's scumflip would tell us more who the remaining scum is than Rangers would

And if either of them flip town, it tells us very little, but if there's a scum flip and a mason dies instead of anti, that means the order of lunches goes 1. The last living one of Dunn/ranger, whom no doubt anti if he's scum will HAVE to claim a scum result on 2. If they aren't scum, anti is. And if anti lives but claims a scum result on Dwlee, we lynch anti because that's him shooting a non-Dunn/ranger leftover who was throwing shade on him and is basically conftown

K game solved

Ask me any questions if its not as clear in your mind as it is in mine

I can make a pretty graphic if you need, just let me know

Love,
zakk

[zakk]

You realize that if Ranger is town and I'm town, and you're town, lynching me loses the game?

Yes.

And I also realize you're doing what you've been doing all game, trying to get people to second guess themselves, and appealing to fear of being wrong.

I have very good reasons to believe all five players besides you two are town

I have very little reason to believe either of you are

It's nothing personal it's just business

You've lost

now eat your lynch like a man

[zakk]

Also

[zakk]

200 pages woo

[zakk]

LOOOL owned (me)

ok so where's ur vote tho nos

[zakk]

Yea

I expect good context from anti

[zakk]

If dunn is town anti is confirmed scum cause it cant be nosferatu and ranger

Why? Show your work

[zakk]

Anti

Talk

Dwlee/Nos

Vote

Dunn

Die

[zakk]

Bruh

Where is everyone

[zakk]

hi scum. lol

[zakk]

you actually almost had me convinced you were town at one point. soooo props.

[zakk]

actually..
VOTE: antihero
antihero town flip clinches the game if masons are town
nosferatu becomes confirmed and it can only be dunn and ranger

unvote

let me think on this


this might be a great plan actually.

[zakk]

actually..
VOTE: antihero
antihero town flip clinches the game if masons are town
nosferatu becomes confirmed and it can only be dunn and ranger

unvote

let me think on this


this might be a great plan actually.

nahhhh wait.

dunn/ranger would just be like "oh but the masons aren't town because they wanted to lynch antihero" and it'll be one of us dead tomorrow too

so we'll have a confirmed mason, but no antihero result

i prefer to lynch dunnstral.

vote: dunnstral

[zakk]

actually... nah.

unvote

i'll bite at this for now.

I like it. I'm townreading the masons, townreading ranger, and might even be townreading dwlee. I think the scum team is antihero and nosferatu

dunn/ranger, instead of being like "yo the masons are scum" now have to be like "yo it's BOTH anti/nos" (which is extreeeeemely unlikely)

but then they've both been more active than antihero and nosferatu

so antihero and nosferatu have to come in and make waves and show themselves to be town, because currently i could definitely see the scenario that they're both just skating and hoping town tears itself apart



meanwhile.

anti/nos, waiting on you guys.

[zakk]

still heavily leaning dunn/ranger but HOLY FUCK those two need to post.

[zakk]

dunn/ranger would just be like "oh but the masons aren't town because they wanted to lynch antihero" and it'll be one of us dead tomorrow too

Why? You think if me and ranger are mafia dwlee votes with us?

You think I'm under the impression a mason wouldn't die? Lol

[zakk]

Ok I'll think some more

Anything that's gonna make it more likely for town to win I'll consider

[zakk]

Here's the thing tho

I think it's more likely nos is a traitor than that anti is scum who bussed their buddy

They are both completely unlinked to each other in terms of the likelihood that they are scum

And they both could be scum while the other is town, (if you don't understand how, at THIS point, then I don't even)

As for lynching anti
That says nothing about nos if he flips town, BUT, if he did, we would be screwing ourselves out of an investigation

As for lynching nos,
That says nothing about anti if he flips scum traitor, but if he flips town VT it means anti is WAY more likely town, or if he flips scum non-traitor, that means anti is lying scum and we win the game by lynching anti

So it might actually be a better play to lynch nos.

Hmmmm. That could actually be optimal because it'd leave anti open for investigating again OR leave both masons alive.

That might actually be the best play.



Wow I have to say this is by far the most unique and interesting 7p scenario I've ever been in, in terms of possibility

A+ for fun factor
F for stress factor


Dwlee / Suzune ... thoughts on lynching nos?

[zakk]

Dunn and Ranger are most likely scum, so I wanna lynch them the most

Lynching Nos will tell us the most about Anti, except, anti might die anyway tho, meaning we might lose 2 townies

Lynching anti tells us nothing about nos, and potentially robs us of legit PT detector results for tomorrow, if he's town he'll prob die anyway

Lynching a mason would be a great idea if nos and anti were both conftown, but they aren't, and that'd equal two dead townies in any case

Lynching Dwlee will tell us nothing about anything snd I have a town read on him anyway so I want him alive


Therefore:
Lynching Dunn or Ranger or Nos are the only options I will entertain

Ask me any questions you have about this
I will explain.

[zakk]

Lynch the cop claim before the inno ya dingus

If traitors didn't exist and/or might not be the VERY THING added to this setup to counterbalance the masons

I might agree with you

[zakk]

I'd still rather lynch anti over nos

but right now that's my scum team

What is the reason to lynch anti over nos given the logic in my 5008?

[zakk]

Because anti can be mafia with nos town?

And I think his claim is kind of a cc to yours, and it makes sense to lynch there first

True re:anti/nos

But nobody's claim counters my and suzune's

[zakk]

I do not think a traitor would be likely on the other hand, just based on all the other things anti would have if town (neighborizer, masons)

A traitor would function as another power role for the Mafia (godfather-like) not just a hindrance

And masons would function as millers, i.e. more false positives, not just masons confirmed to each other

This is not hard to understand, Dunnstral.

False positives vs. false negatives.

[zakk]

Dwlee, comments on my posts pls

[zakk]

Vote: dunnstral

Okay I'm done being willing to entertain any other lynches than this

Switch, Dwlee. Pls thx

[zakk]

I'm just sick of waiting for people to be here. Plus nobody is responding intelligently to my logic so I refuse to second guess myself

Time to carry this game myself

[zakk]

No I'm voting the guy I think is scum

Not the guy who won't respond

Wtf?

[zakk]

I'd just be fucking pissed if I lost to a mason fake claim

Not gonna happen

[zakk]

I'd just be fucking pissed if I lost to a mason fake claim

But with so many neighborhoods for the town, it would get false positives more then actual positives.

But with so many neighborhoods for the town, it would get false positives more then actual positives.

I don't think so? If so it's to nerf it so it's not basically a cop. Still makes more sense as town. Scum can't even use it to find a traitor so it serves no purpose to them, but town can use it to find the spy and scum with the exception of a possible traitor.

This looks like Suzune scum

And Nosferatu town

Arguing about whether or not to lynch the masons

Lol

[zakk]

For the record

5 scum + 2 masons + X neighbors

That's 7+X "has a private topic" results

And 14-X "has a private topic" results

In this game with 4 neighbors

It's 11 with and 10 without

Unless there's a traitor in which case 10 with and 11 without

But, it could have been more or less if Heat died sooner or lived longer

[zakk]

It's about even depending on things, but it's more likely a town info role

Also more private topics means more for the neighborhood spy to spy on

Plus the masons and neighbors are counterbalanced by the fact that an antihero claim very possibly means outed power roles at least half the time

So I don't get why people think our being masons could be a scum fake claim

That's just dumb

[zakk]

So in conclusion

We are town

Anti is probably town

Nosferatu COULD be a traitor I guess... But I doubt it

Dwlee I have a strong town read on

And I have nothing of the sort on either Dunn or ranger.

I have a stronger scum read on Dunn. So, no use drawing this out.

Vote Dunnstral please.

[zakk]

Dunnstral/Ranger for President in 2016.

They have my vote! And they should have yours! I'm starting a grassroots campaign to get them

lynched

elected!

Vote with me!!

[zakk]

ok if masons are real town loses

How?

I see zakk doesn't want to consider anything else

Show me any scum hunting you've done all game
Show me anything useful you've done all game
Show me any alternative solution you've given that doesn't include masons or exclude ranger

If you're town you deserve this for being absolutely worthless
If you're scum then you've had this coming for a real long time

Either way I'm as over today as I was over the day Fire Assassin being a Flaming Ass x2 (like his name implies)

[zakk]

so why can't we lynch anti

His role doesn't make much sense if masons are town

I think it's anti nos

VOTE: antihero

I've explained why this is wrong

I've also shown how you're willing to lynch basically anyone but you and ranger

Flail more

[zakk]

my bet is ranger anti so if we lose and I was right I can spam quote this

Cool and if it's ranger/anti, tomorrow will tell because anti will be helping town win tonight with his last odd night result on a townie

Both masons alive (for scum to throw shade on) or anti with a result tomorrow (for scum to 1v1)

Those are the options

If I'm dead tomorrow (I expect to be) I expect you to lynch who anti says, even if you suspect him
I'll bet the entire game on anti being town

If anti is dead tomorrow, (if Dunn was town), it'll be me/Suzune vs 2/3 scum (nos/ranger/Dwlee)

And I'm pretty damn sure I'm right that Dwlee is town so

I'm pretty damn sure that even if Dunn is town we win

[zakk]

But I don't think Dunn is town, since he's willing to lynch anyone besides him or ranger basically


However if you are town Dunn, (and Dwlee you too pls), tell me why, BESIDES balance speculation, why you think anti might be scum? (I.e. Here's your chance to scum hunt)

Ready
Set
Go

[zakk]

can we like not until ranger and antihero have responded to prods or been replaced

UNVOTE:

For you Dwlee

[zakk]

Show me any scum hunting you've done all game

Why are you ignoring me scum hunting Titus?

To be fair Dunn has been on Titus all game. So much so that someone accused her of being a lyncher to get Titus

Who

When

Links or stfu

[zakk]

Show me any scum hunting you've done all game

Why are you ignoring me scum hunting Titus?

To be fair Dunn has been on Titus all game. So much so that someone accused her of being a lyncher to get Titus

Who

When

Links or stfu

Plus, Suzune, when I was on ranger you were on Suzune so why the change of heart

[zakk]

cause he hasn't done anything all game and his role claim can be easily faked with a pt spy

Hm. I guess

But looking over his role claim it looks pretty legit

He tried to get beeboy lynched before even claiming

Which is exactly what I would expect a town version of him to do

[zakk]

Dunn lots of ppl voted scum even scum lol

It's v easy to camp out on scum in a one person wagon and then all of a sudden you're not on the wagon anymore when it looks like it's starting to get serious

[zakk]

Spoiler: Vote Count Analysis

Day 1, Vote Count #2

(4)

beefboy

-- Luna Fox,

SirCakez

,

Titus

, Almost50

(1)

Ranger --

Fire Assassin

(1)

Fire Assassin

--

Suzune

(1)

Heat

-- Antihero

With 21 votes available, it takes 11 votes to hammer.

Day 1, Vote Count #3

(3)

beefboy

-- Luna Fox,

SirCakez

, Almost50

(2)

Antihero --

Fire Assassin

,

Suzune

(1)

Fire Assassin

--

TiphaineDeath

(1)

Heat

-- Antihero

(1)

Dunnstral --

Titus

(1)

Titus

-- Dunnstral

With 21 votes available, it takes 11 votes to hammer.

Day 1, Vote Count #4

(2)

beefboy

-- Luna Fox,

SirCakez

(2)

Antihero --

Fire Assassin

,

Suzune

(1)

Fire Assassin

--

TiphaineDeath

(1)

TheWayItEnds -- Almost50

(1)

Heat

-- Antihero

(1)

Dunnstral --

Titus

(1)

Titus

-- Dunnstral

With 21 votes available, it takes 11 votes to hammer.

Day 1, Vote Count #5

(3)

Antihero --

Fire Assassin

,

Suzune

,

Heat

(2)

beefboy

-- Luna Fox,

SirCakez

(2)

Fire Assassin

--

TiphaineDeath

, Ranger

(1)

Ranger --

DrippingGoofball

(1)

Suzune

--

Nero Cain

(1)

TheWayItEnds -- Almost50

(1)

Heat

-- Antihero

(1)

Dunnstral --

Titus

(1)

Titus

-- Dunnstral

With 21 votes available, it takes 11 votes to hammer.

Day 1, Vote Count #6

(2)

beefboy

-- Luna Fox,

PeregrineV

(2)

Fire Assassin

--

TiphaineDeath

, Ranger

(2)

Brian Hollywood

--

SirCakez

,

beefboy

(2)

Antihero --

Fire Assassin

,

Suzune

(1)

Almost50 --

Heat

(1)

Ranger --

DrippingGoofball

(1)

Suzune

--

Nero Cain

(1)

TheWayItEnds -- Almost50

(1)

Heat

-- Antihero

(1)

Dunnstral --

Titus

(1)

Titus

-- Dunnstral

With 21 votes available, it takes 11 votes to hammer.

Day 1, Vote Count #7

(3)

Antihero --

Fire Assassin

,

Suzune

,

Brian Hollywood

(2)

beefboy

-- Luna Fox,

PeregrineV

(2)

Fire Assassin

--

TiphaineDeath

, Ranger

(2)

Brian Hollywood

--

SirCakez

,

beefboy

(1)

Almost50 --

Heat

(1)

Ranger --

DrippingGoofball

(1)

Suzune

--

Nero Cain

(1)

TheWayItEnds -- Almost50

(1)

Heat

-- Antihero

(1)

Dunnstral --

Titus

(1)

Titus

-- Dunnstral

With 21 votes available, it takes 11 votes to hammer.

Day 1, Vote Count #8

(3)

Suzune

--

Nero Cain

,

TiphaineDeath

, Luna Fox

(3)

Antihero --

Fire Assassin

,

Suzune

,

Brian Hollywood

(2)

Ranger --

DrippingGoofball

,

Varsoon

(2)

Fire Assassin

-- Ranger,

Titus

(1)

Almost50 --

Heat

(1)

beefboy

--

PeregrineV

(1)

Brian Hollywood

--

SirCakez

(1)

TheWayItEnds -- Almost50

(1)

zakk

--

beefboy

(1)

Heat

-- Antihero

(1)

Titus

-- Dunnstral

With 21 votes available, it takes 11 votes to hammer.

Day 1, Vote Count #9

(3)

Suzune

--

Nero Cain

,

TiphaineDeath

, Luna Fox

(3)

Antihero --

Fire Assassin

,

Suzune

,

Brian Hollywood

(2)

Ranger --

DrippingGoofball

,

Varsoon

(2)

Fire Assassin

-- Ranger,

Titus

(1)

Almost50 --

Heat

(1)

beefboy

--

PeregrineV

(1)

Brian Hollywood

--

SirCakez

(1)

TheWayItEnds -- Almost50

(1)

zakk

--

beefboy

(1)

Heat

-- Antihero

(1)

Dunnstral -- Nosferatu

(1)

Titus

-- Dunnstral

With 21 votes available, it takes 11 votes to hammer.

Day 1, Vote Count #10

(3)

Brian Hollywood

--

SirCakez

,

Heat

, Luna Fox

(3)

Antihero --

Fire Assassin

,

Suzune

,

Brian Hollywood

(2)

Ranger --

DrippingGoofball

,

Varsoon

(2)

Fire Assassin

-- Ranger,

Titus

(2)

Suzune

--

Nero Cain

,

TiphaineDeath

(1)

beefboy

--

PeregrineV

(1)

TheWayItEnds -- Almost50

(1)

zakk

--

beefboy

(1)

Heat

-- Antihero

(1)

Dunnstral -- Nosferatu

(1)

Titus

-- Dunnstral

With 21 votes available, it takes 11 votes to hammer.

Day 1, Vote Count #11

(6)

Brian Hollywood

--

SirCakez

,

Heat

, Luna Fox,

beefboy

,

DrippingGoofball

, Ranger

(3)

Antihero --

Fire Assassin

,

Suzune

,

Brian Hollywood

(2)

Suzune

--

Nero Cain

,

TiphaineDeath

(1)

beefboy

--

PeregrineV

(1)

Ranger --

Varsoon

(1)

Nero Cain

-- Dwlee99

(1)

Fire Assassin

--

Titus

(1)

TheWayItEnds -- Almost50

(1)

Heat

-- Antihero

(1)

Dunnstral -- Nosferatu

(1)

Titus

-- Dunnstral

With 21 votes available, it takes 11 votes to hammer.

Day 1, Vote Count #12

(6)

Brian Hollywood

--

SirCakez

,

Heat

, Luna Fox,

beefboy

,

DrippingGoofball

, Ranger

(3)

Antihero --

Fire Assassin

,

Suzune

,

Brian Hollywood

(2)

Suzune

--

Nero Cain

,

TiphaineDeath

(2)

Luna Fox -- Antihero,

Varsoon

(1)

beefboy

--

PeregrineV

(1)

Nero Cain

-- Dwlee99

(1)

Fire Assassin

--

Titus

(1)

Dwlee99 -- Dunnstral

(1)

TheWayItEnds -- Almost50

(1)

Dunnstral -- Nosferatu

With 21 votes available, it takes 11 votes to hammer.

Day 1, Vote Count #13

(7)

Brian Hollywood

--

SirCakez

,

Heat

, Luna Fox,

beefboy

,

DrippingGoofball

, Ranger, Dwlee99

(3)

Fire Assassin

--

Titus

, Almost50,

TiphaineDeath

(2)

Antihero --

Fire Assassin

,

Brian Hollywood

(2)

Luna Fox -- Antihero,

Varsoon

(1)

beefboy

--

PeregrineV

(1)

Suzune

--

Nero Cain

(1)

Dwlee99 -- Dunnstral

(1)

Dunnstral -- Nosferatu

With 21 votes available, it takes 11 votes to hammer.

Day 1, Vote Count #14

(8)

Brian Hollywood

--

SirCakez

,

Heat

, Luna Fox,

beefboy

,

DrippingGoofball

, Ranger, Antihero, Nosferatu

(3)

Fire Assassin

--

Titus

, Almost50,

TiphaineDeath

(2)

beefboy

--

PeregrineV

,

Brian Hollywood

(1)

Nero Cain

-- Dwlee99

(1)

Dwlee99 --

Nero Cain

(1)

PeregrineV

-- Dunnstral

(1)

Luna Fox --

Varsoon

(1)

Titus

--

Fire Assassin

With 21 votes available, it takes 11 votes to hammer.

Day 1, Vote Count #15

(8)

Brian Hollywood

--

SirCakez

,

Heat

, Luna Fox,

beefboy

,

DrippingGoofball

, Ranger, Antihero, Nosferatu

(3)

Fire Assassin

--

Titus

, Almost50,

TiphaineDeath

(2)

beefboy

--

PeregrineV

,

Brian Hollywood

(1)

Nero Cain

-- Dwlee99

(1)

Dwlee99 --

Nero Cain

(1)

PeregrineV

-- Dunnstral

(1)

Luna Fox --

Varsoon

(1)

Titus

--

Fire Assassin

With 21 votes available, it takes 11 votes to hammer.

Day 1, Final Vote Count:

(11)

Brian Hollywood

--

SirCakez

,

Heat

, Luna Fox,

beefboy

,

DrippingGoofball

, Ranger, Antihero, Nosferatu,

Titus

,

Varsoon

, Almost50

(2)

beefboy

--

PeregrineV

,

Brian Hollywood

(2)

Titus

--

Fire Assassin

, Dunnstral

(1)

Fire Assassin

--

TiphaineDeath

(1)

Nosferatu -- Dwlee99

(1)

Dwlee99 --

Nero Cain

Day 2, Vote Count #2

(3)

beefboy

-- Antihero, Dunnstral,

SirCakez

(1)

Titus

--

Fire Assassin

With 19 votes available, it takes 10 votes to hammer.

Day 2, Vote Count #3

(9)

beefboy

-- Antihero, Dunnstral,

SirCakez

,

TiphaineDeath

,

Titus

,

Nero Cain

, Nosferatu,

Suzune

, Almost50

(1)

Titus

--

Fire Assassin

With 19 votes available, it takes 10 votes to hammer.

Day 2, Vote Count #4

(8)

beefboy

-- Antihero, Dunnstral,

TiphaineDeath

,

Nero Cain

, Nosferatu,

Suzune

, Almost50,

Fire Assassin

(1)

Antihero --

beefboy

With 19 votes available, it takes 10 votes to hammer.

Day 2, Vote Count #5

(6)

beefboy

-- Antihero,

TiphaineDeath

, Nosferatu,

Suzune

,

Fire Assassin

,

Nero Cain

(2)

Antihero --

beefboy

, Dwlee99

(1)

Dwlee99 -- Dunnstral

With 19 votes available, it takes 10 votes to hammer.

Day 2, Vote Count #6

(4)

beefboy

-- Antihero,

Suzune

,

Fire Assassin

,

Nero Cain

(1)

Almost50 --

TiphaineDeath

(1)

Dwlee99 -- Dunnstral

(1)

Antihero --

beefboy

(1)

Luna Fox --

SirCakez

With 19 votes available, it takes 10 votes to hammer.

Day 2, Vote Count #7

(4)

beefboy

-- Antihero,

Suzune

,

Fire Assassin

,

Nero Cain

(4)

Nosferatu -- Dwlee99,

beefboy

, Dunnstral, Almost50

(1)

Almost50 --

TiphaineDeath

(1)

Luna Fox --

SirCakez

(1)

Dunnstral --

Titus

With 19 votes available, it takes 10 votes to hammer.

Day 2, Vote Count #8

(4)

beefboy

-- Antihero,

Suzune

,

Fire Assassin

,

Nero Cain

(3)

Nosferatu -- Dwlee99,

beefboy

, Dunnstral

(1)

Almost50 --

TiphaineDeath

(1)

Luna Fox --

SirCakez

(1)

Heat

-- Almost50

(1)

Dunnstral --

Titus

With 19 votes available, it takes 10 votes to hammer.

Day 2, Vote Count #9

(3)

beefboy

-- Antihero,

Fire Assassin

,

Nero Cain

(3)

Nosferatu -- Dwlee99,

beefboy

, Dunnstral

(2)

Almost50 --

TiphaineDeath

,

Heat

(1)

Luna Fox --

SirCakez

(1)

Heat

-- Almost50

(1)

Dunnstral --

Titus

With 19 votes available, it takes 10 votes to hammer.

Day 2, Vote Count #10

(4)

Nosferatu -- Dwlee99,

beefboy

, Dunnstral, Almost50

(3)

beefboy

-- Antihero,

Fire Assassin

, Ranger

(2)

Almost50 --

TiphaineDeath

,

Heat

(2)

Dwlee99 --

Nero Cain

,

SirCakez

(1)

Dunnstral --

Titus

With 19 votes available, it takes 10 votes to hammer.

Day 2, Vote Count #11

(4)

Nosferatu -- Dwlee99,

beefboy

, Dunnstral, Almost50

(3)

beefboy

-- Antihero,

Fire Assassin

, Ranger

(2)

Almost50 --

TiphaineDeath

,

Heat

(2)

Dwlee99 --

Nero Cain

,

SirCakez

(1)

SirCakez

-- TheWayItEnds

(1)

TheWayItEnds --

Suzune

(1)

Dunnstral --

Titus

With 19 votes available, it takes 10 votes to hammer.

Day 2, Vote Count #12

(4)

Nosferatu -- Dwlee99,

beefboy

, Dunnstral, Almost50

(3)

Almost50 --

TiphaineDeath

,

Heat

,

Nero Cain

(3)

beefboy

-- Antihero,

Fire Assassin

, Ranger

(1)

SirCakez

-- TheWayItEnds

(1)

Dwlee99 --

SirCakez

(1)

TheWayItEnds --

Suzune

(1)

Dunnstral --

Titus

With 19 votes available, it takes 10 votes to hammer.

Day 2, Vote Count #13

(6)

Nosferatu -- Dwlee99,

beefboy

, Dunnstral, Almost50,

Varsoon

,

SirCakez

(3)

Almost50 --

TiphaineDeath

,

Heat

,

Nero Cain

(3)

beefboy

-- Antihero,

Fire Assassin

, Ranger

(1)

SirCakez

-- TheWayItEnds

(1)

TheWayItEnds --

Suzune

(1)

Dunnstral --

Titus

With 19 votes available, it takes 10 votes to hammer.

Day 2, Vote Count #14

(3)

Almost50 --

Heat

,

Nero Cain

,

PeregrineV

(4)

SirCakez

-- TheWayItEnds, Dwlee99,

TiphaineDeath

, Dunnstral

(3)

beefboy

-- Antihero,

Fire Assassin

, Ranger

(3)

Nosferatu -- Almost50,

Varsoon

,

SirCakez

(1)

TheWayItEnds --

Suzune

(1)

Dunnstral --

Titus

(1)

Varsoon

--

beefboy

With 19 votes available, it takes 10 votes to hammer.

Day 2, Vote Count #15

(3)

Almost50 --

Heat

,

Nero Cain

,

PeregrineV

(4)

SirCakez

-- TheWayItEnds, Dwlee99,

TiphaineDeath

, Dunnstral

(2)

beefboy

--

Fire Assassin

, Ranger

(3)

Nosferatu -- Almost50,

Varsoon

,

SirCakez

(1)

Dwlee99 -- Antihero

(1)

TheWayItEnds --

Suzune

(1)

Dunnstral --

Titus

(1)

Varsoon

--

beefboy

With 19 votes available, it takes 10 votes to hammer.

Day 2, Vote Count #16

(5)

Almost50 --

Heat

,

PeregrineV

,

TiphaineDeath

,

SirCakez

,

Nero Cain

(2)

SirCakez

-- TheWayItEnds, Dwlee99

(2)

beefboy

--

Fire Assassin

, Ranger

(2)

Nosferatu -- Almost50,

Varsoon

(1)

Dwlee99 -- Antihero

(1)

TheWayItEnds --

Suzune

(1)

Dunnstral --

Titus

(1)

Varsoon

--

beefboy

(1)

Titus

-- Dunnstral

With 19 votes available, it takes 10 votes to hammer.

Day 2, Vote Count #17

(6)

Almost50 --

Heat

,

PeregrineV

,

TiphaineDeath

,

SirCakez

,

Nero Cain

, Antihero

(2)

SirCakez

-- TheWayItEnds, Dwlee99

(2)

beefboy

--

Fire Assassin

, Ranger

(1)

Nero Cain

-- Almost50

(1)

Nosferatu --

Varsoon

(1)

TheWayItEnds --

Suzune

(1)

Dunnstral --

Titus

(1)

Varsoon

--

beefboy

(1)

Titus

-- Dunnstral

With 19 votes available, it takes 10 votes to hammer.

Day 2, Vote Count #18

(4)

Almost50 --

Heat

,

PeregrineV

,

TiphaineDeath

, Antihero

(3)

Nosferatu --

Varsoon

, Almost50,

SirCakez

(3)

PeregrineV

-- Nosferatu,

Nero Cain

,

beefboy

(2)

beefboy

--

Fire Assassin

, Ranger

(1)

SirCakez

-- TheWayItEnds

(1)

Dwlee99 -- Dunnstral

(1)

TheWayItEnds --

Suzune

(1)

Dunnstral --

Titus

With 19 votes available, it takes 10 votes to hammer.

Day 2, Vote Count #19

(4)

PeregrineV

-- Nosferatu,

Nero Cain

,

beefboy

,

Fire Assassin

(3)

Nosferatu --

Varsoon

, Almost50,

SirCakez

(2)

Almost50 --

PeregrineV

, Antihero

(2)

Dunnstral --

Titus

,

TiphaineDeath

(1)

SirCakez

-- TheWayItEnds

(1)

beefboy

-- Ranger

(1)

Dwlee99 -- Dunnstral

(1)

TheWayItEnds --

Suzune

With 19 votes available, it takes 10 votes to hammer.

Day 2, Vote Count #20

(4)

PeregrineV

-- Nosferatu,

Nero Cain

,

beefboy

,

Fire Assassin

(3)

Nosferatu --

Varsoon

, Almost50,

SirCakez

(3)

Dunnstral --

Titus

,

TiphaineDeath

,

zakk

(2)

Almost50 --

PeregrineV

, Antihero

(1)

SirCakez

-- TheWayItEnds

(1)

beefboy

-- Ranger

(1)

TheWayItEnds --

Suzune

(1)

zakk

-- Dunnstral

With 19 votes available, it takes 10 votes to hammer.

Day 2, Vote Count #21

(4)

PeregrineV

-- Nosferatu,

Nero Cain

,

beefboy

,

Fire Assassin

(3)

Nosferatu --

Varsoon

, Almost50,

SirCakez

(3)

Dunnstral --

Titus

,

TiphaineDeath

,

zakk

(2)

Almost50 --

PeregrineV

, Antihero

(2)

Titus

-- Dunnstral, Dwlee99

(1)

SirCakez

-- TheWayItEnds

(1)

beefboy

-- Ranger

(1)

TheWayItEnds --

Suzune

With 19 votes available, it takes 10 votes to hammer.

Day 2, Vote Count #22

(6)

PeregrineV

-- Nosferatu,

Nero Cain

,

beefboy

,

Fire Assassin

, Almost50,

Heat

(4)

Dunnstral --

Titus

,

TiphaineDeath

,

zakk

,

Varsoon

(2)

Almost50 --

PeregrineV

, Antihero

(2)

Titus

-- Dunnstral, Dwlee99

(1)

SirCakez

-- TheWayItEnds

(1)

beefboy

-- Ranger

(1)

Nosferatu --

SirCakez

(1)

TheWayItEnds --

Suzune

With 19 votes available, it takes 10 votes to hammer.

Day 2, Vote Count #23

(5)

PeregrineV

-- Nosferatu,

Nero Cain

,

beefboy

, Almost50,

Heat

(5)

Titus

-- Dwlee99, Dunnstral,

Suzune

,

Fire Assassin

,

zakk

(3)

Dunnstral --

Titus

,

TiphaineDeath

,

Varsoon

(2)

Almost50 --

PeregrineV

, Antihero

(1)

SirCakez

-- TheWayItEnds

(1)

beefboy

-- Ranger

(1)

Nosferatu --

SirCakez

With 19 votes available, it takes 10 votes to hammer.

Day 2, Vote Count #24

(4)

PeregrineV

-- Nosferatu, Almost50,

Heat

,

Nero Cain

(4)

Titus

-- Dwlee99, Dunnstral,

Suzune

,

Fire Assassin

(3)

Nero Cain

--

zakk

,

Titus

,

TiphaineDeath

(2)

Almost50 --

PeregrineV

, Antihero

(1)

SirCakez

-- TheWayItEnds

(1)

beefboy

-- Ranger

(1)

Ranger --

beefboy

(1)

Nosferatu --

SirCakez

(1)

Dunnstral --

Varsoon

With 19 votes available, it takes 10 votes to hammer.

Day 2, Vote Count #25

(5)

Ranger --

beefboy

,

Suzune

, Dwlee99,

Heat

,

SirCakez

(3)

PeregrineV

-- Nosferatu, Almost50,

Nero Cain

(3)

Titus

-- Dunnstral,

Fire Assassin

,

zakk

(2)

Almost50 --

PeregrineV

, Antihero

(1)

SirCakez

-- TheWayItEnds

(1)

beefboy

-- Ranger

(1)

Nero Cain

--

Titus

(1)

Dunnstral --

Varsoon

With 19 votes available, it takes 10 votes to hammer.

Day 2, Vote Count #26

(8)

Ranger --

beefboy

,

Suzune

, Dwlee99,

Heat

,

SirCakez

,

Varsoon

,

TiphaineDeath

,

Titus

(3)

PeregrineV

-- Nosferatu, Almost50,

Nero Cain

(3)

Titus

-- Dunnstral,

Fire Assassin

,

zakk

(2)

Almost50 --

PeregrineV

, Antihero

(1)

SirCakez

-- TheWayItEnds

(1)

beefboy

-- Ranger

With 19 votes available, it takes 10 votes to hammer.

Day 2, Vote Count #27

(6)

Ranger --

Suzune

, Dwlee99,

SirCakez

,

Varsoon

,

TiphaineDeath

,

Titus

(3)

PeregrineV

-- Nosferatu, Almost50,

Nero Cain

(3)

Titus

-- Dunnstral,

Fire Assassin

,

zakk

(2)

Almost50 --

PeregrineV

, Antihero

(1)

SirCakez

-- TheWayItEnds

(1)

beefboy

-- Ranger

With 19 votes available, it takes 10 votes to hammer.

Day 2, Vote Count #28

(3)

SirCakez

-- TheWayItEnds,

beefboy

,

Nero Cain

(3)

Ranger --

Suzune

,

Varsoon

,

Titus

(3)

Titus

-- Dunnstral,

Fire Assassin

,

zakk

(1)

Almost50 -- Antihero

(1)

beefboy

-- Ranger

(1)

Suzune

--

TiphaineDeath

With 18 votes available, it takes 10 votes to hammer.

Day 2, Vote Count #29

(5)

SirCakez

-- TheWayItEnds,

beefboy

,

Nero Cain

, Luna Fox, Dunnstral

(3)

Ranger --

Suzune

,

Varsoon

,

Titus

(3)

Titus

--

Fire Assassin

,

zakk

,

SirCakez

(1)

Almost50 -- Antihero

(1)

beefboy

-- Ranger

(1)

Suzune

--

TiphaineDeath

With 18 votes available, it takes 10 votes to hammer.

Day 2, Vote Count #30

(5)

Varsoon

--

Nero Cain

,

beefboy

,

Titus

, Luna Fox,

SirCakez

(3)

Titus

--

Fire Assassin

,

zakk

,

TiphaineDeath

(2)

SirCakez

-- TheWayItEnds, Dunnstral

(2)

Ranger --

Suzune

,

Varsoon

(1)

Almost50 -- Antihero

(1)

beefboy

-- Ranger

With 18 votes available, it takes 10 votes to hammer.

Day 2, Vote Count #31

(7)

Titus

--

Fire Assassin

,

zakk

,

TiphaineDeath

, Dwlee99, Dunnstral,

SirCakez

, Luna Fox

(2)

SirCakez

-- TheWayItEnds, Antihero

(2)

Ranger --

Suzune

,

Varsoon

(2)

Varsoon

--

Nero Cain

,

Titus

(1)

beefboy

-- Ranger

(1)

Antihero -- Almost50

With 18 votes available, it takes 10 votes to hammer.

Day 2, Vote Count #32

(8)

Titus

--

Fire Assassin

,

TiphaineDeath

, Dwlee99, Dunnstral,

SirCakez

, Luna Fox,

Nero Cain

,

beefboy

(2)

SirCakez

-- TheWayItEnds, Antihero

(2)

Ranger --

Suzune

,

Varsoon

(1)

beefboy

-- Ranger

(1)

Antihero -- Almost50

(1)

Dunnstral --

zakk

(1)

Varsoon

--

Titus

With 18 votes available, it takes 10 votes to hammer.

Day 2, Vote Count #33

(9)

Titus

--

Fire Assassin

,

TiphaineDeath

, Dwlee99, Dunnstral,

SirCakez

, Luna Fox,

Nero Cain

,

beefboy

, Antihero

(2)

Ranger --

Suzune

,

Varsoon

(1)

SirCakez

-- TheWayItEnds

(1)

beefboy

-- Ranger

(1)

Antihero -- Almost50

(1)

Dunnstral --

zakk

(1)

Varsoon

--

Titus

With 18 votes available, it takes 10 votes to hammer.

Day 2, Final Vote Count:

(10) Titus

--

Fire Assassin

,

TiphaineDeath

, Dwlee99, Dunnstral,

SirCakez

, Luna Fox,

Nero Cain

,

beefboy

, Antihero,

Varsoon

(1)

SirCakez

-- TheWayItEnds

(1)

beefboy

-- Ranger

(1)

Ranger --

Suzune

(1)

Antihero -- Almost50

(1)

Dunnstral --

zakk

(1)

Varsoon

--

Titus

With 18 votes available, it took 10 votes to hammer.

Day 3, Vote Count #2

(2)

Suzune

--

SirCakez

,

Nero Cain

(2)

zakk

-- Nosferatu, Dwlee99

(1)

SirCakez

-- Antihero

(1)

Luna Fox --

Varsoon

(1)

Varsoon

--

TiphaineDeath

With 16 votes available, it takes 9 votes to hammer.

Day 3, Vote Count #3

(2)

zakk

-- Nosferatu, Dwlee99

(1)

SirCakez

-- Antihero

(1)

Suzune

--

SirCakez

(2)

Varsoon

--

TiphaineDeath

,

Nero Cain

With 16 votes available, it takes 9 votes to hammer.

Day 3, Vote Count #4

(5)

zakk

-- Nosferatu, Dwlee99, Dunnstral,

SirCakez

, Almost50

(3)

Varsoon

--

TiphaineDeath

,

Nero Cain

,

Fire Assassin

(1)

SirCakez

-- Antihero

(1)

Nosferatu --

Varsoon

With 16 votes available, it takes 9 votes to hammer.

Day 3, Vote Count #5

(4)

zakk

-- Nosferatu, Dwlee99, Almost50, Dunnstral

(4)

Varsoon

--

TiphaineDeath

,

zakk

,

SirCakez

,

Nero Cain

(2)

SirCakez

-- Antihero, Luna Fox

(1)

Nosferatu --

Varsoon

With 16 votes available, it takes 9 votes to hammer.

Day 3, Vote Count #6

(6)

Varsoon

--

TiphaineDeath

,

zakk

,

SirCakez

,

Nero Cain

, Dwlee99, Ranger

(3)

SirCakez

-- Antihero, Luna Fox,

Fire Assassin

(2)

zakk

-- Nosferatu, Almost50

(1)

Nosferatu --

Varsoon

With 16 votes available, it takes 9 votes to hammer.

Day 3, Vote Count #7

(6)

SirCakez

-- Antihero,

Fire Assassin

,

TiphaineDeath

,

Heat

,

Nero Cain

, Luna Fox

(2)

Nosferatu --

Varsoon

,

zakk

(2)

Varsoon

--

SirCakez

, Ranger

(1)

zakk

-- Nosferatu

With 16 votes available, it takes 9 votes to hammer.

Day 3, Final Vote Count:

(9)

SirCakez

-- Antihero,

Fire Assassin

,

TiphaineDeath

,

Heat

,

Nero Cain

, Luna Fox,

zakk

,

Varsoon

, Dunnstral

(2)

Varsoon

--

SirCakez

, Ranger

(1)

zakk

-- Nosferatu

With 16 votes available, it takes 9 votes to hammer.

Day 4, Vote Count #2

(1)

TiphaineDeath

-- Dunnstral

With 14 votes available, it takes 8 votes to hammer.

Day 4, Vote Count #3

(2)

Luna Fox -- Almost50,

zakk

(1)

TiphaineDeath

-- Dunnstral

With 14 votes available, it takes 8 votes to hammer.

Day 4, Vote Count #4

(2)

Luna Fox -- Almost50,

zakk

(1)

TiphaineDeath

-- Dunnstral

(1)

TheWayItEnds -- Dwlee99

(1)

Varsoon

-- Ranger

With 14 votes available, it takes 8 votes to hammer.

Day 4, Vote Count #5

(5)

Varsoon

-- Ranger, Antihero, Luna Fox,

Fire Assassin

, Dwlee99

(2)

Luna Fox -- Almost50,

zakk

(1)

TiphaineDeath

-- Dunnstral

(1)

Antihero --

Varsoon

With 14 votes available, it takes 8 votes to hammer.

Day 4, Final Vote Count:

(8)

Varsoon

-- Ranger, Antihero, Luna Fox,

Fire Assassin

, Dwlee99, Dunnstral, Almost50,

TiphaineDeath

(1)

Antihero --

Varsoon

(1)

Luna Fox --

zakk

With 14 votes available, it took 8 votes to hammer.

Day 5 Begins Now

With 12 votes available, it takes 7 votes to hammer.

Added the spoiler tag.
~Skull

[zakk]

Clearly you were on and off the Titus wagon multiple times

[zakk]

willing to ignore beeboy's scum line

don't, he is very, very, very likely scum

VOTE: beeboy

that was before the thing i know now

I am a town Tracker. I targeted TD who targeted themselves.

the "very very very likely" is now "certain"

lynch plz

I am a town Tracker. I targeted TD who targeted themselves.

the "very very very likely" is now "certain"

lynch plz

Yeah, I want details.

nope, the claim buries him

the veracity of the td track is irrelevant

and no i did not get redirected

that's just spam anyway

nope your rolefishing is in vain

holy shit ya'll are so bad at this

i'm a pt detector. i investigated beeboy last night and he

DOES

have access to a pt.

I am a town Tracker. I targeted TD who targeted themselves.

do you see "neighbor" as part of this?
no?
who else has access to a pt?
scum

HE'S SCUM

FUCKING LYNCH HIM

[zakk]

went over pv's posting. it sucks.

VOTE: pv

lets get this done folks

yeah this is crap, nero jail makes no sense

VOTE: titus

varsoon prob made himself a policy lynch... ok

HEY EVERYBODY

guess who has access to a pt

VOTE: varsoon

[zakk]

So I mean

Who is the better busser here?

Show me who dunnstral convinced to lynch anyone

Nobody

He's just been being a floater / active lurker the entire time

He plays like petapan as scum

He plays like me as scum

Trust me I know how it works

You make everyone doubt themselves but have no clear direction you're pushing OTHERS in, even though you make sure your vote history is pretty clean

Soooo here's the scoop

I'm not 100% on dunnstral and I'll never be

But this game could last forever so

If antihero gets back and has nothing amazing to say

Dunnstral is swinging

And that's that



Sorry not sorry

[zakk]

VOTE: Nosferatu

So you're again willing to vote anyone but yourself and ranger

Hooray

[zakk]

I'm gonna shut up and let Nosferatu and Dunn and antihero battle it out

This should be good

Dwlee, pls Unvote
Suzune, pls Unvote


They'll do the work from now on while we watch

[zakk]

This is easily verifiable, so I don't think Anti woulf fake it.

VOTE: Varsoon

@Nero:

Shooting Varsoon now seems like a good idea. He flips, anti gets confirmed, and we have the rest of the day to get another lynch.

Here's a post they remember which makes Dunn seem town

[zakk]

I* remember

[zakk]

Found that in the Mason QT while Isoing myself

[zakk]

Kinda thinking nos/ranger now

[zakk]

More reading happening we'll see

Ranger needs to post too

And if she doesn't come off her tunnel she's dead

[zakk]

i'm trying to get my part of a paper done by saturday this clusterfuck has to wait until then

Antihero hasn't posted as of this post

[zakk]

Spoiler: Scumgames by ~chronological order

1. Blitz 1, C9++, first scumgame.
2. Mafiaception, contemporary Blitz 1. I had some real-life problems that contributed to not doing well.
3. Blitz 7.
4. Machina Mafia.
5. Blitz 25.
6. Mexican Standoff.
7. Masons and Mafia (Barely a scumgame at all since I wasn't in it until all my scumbuddies were dead and they quicklynched me.)
8. Pick Your Power X/Y (in spite of the loss, third-best scumgame).
9. Firebringer's Marathon Game.
10. Newbie 1692. JK9++, second-best scumgame largely thanks to RC.
11. Diffusion of Power, best scumgame.
12. Buzzfeed UPick.
13. Near Vanilla. (I was experiencing troubles that game for life-suck, not alignment-indicative, reasons, so it's up there with Mafiaception for worst performance from me, for similar reasons too.)
14. Anime UPick Pack A.
15. C9++. (Similar to Near Vanilla, life suck interfered with the game.)
16. Friends and Enemies and Enemies.
17. Setup UMake. (Barely a game at all; I got a role that was literally designed to lose the game for the mafia, because...I had designed it myself, with the intention someone else would get it.)
18. Carbon 14. (Nobody did much of anything that game, at all.)
19. Literally Anything UPick (probably one of my better games, but I was post-restricted to be kawaii).
20. Mass Effect (my part ENDED much earlier, but game was one of latest finished)
21. Bloodborne Mafia
22. Pokemon Episode 5
23. Stack The Deck

That should be all of them. I think, anyway.

This was also rangers last post on site

[zakk]

Ok Dunn

So why not ranger then

[zakk]

I highly doubt it's both anti and nos

And I refuse to vote dwlee

[zakk]

So, who do you want to lynch today and why?

[zakk]

Dunn

If you want to vote for anti or nos

Then why was your vote just on me a few minutes ago

[zakk]

And it's not because I was acting differently than I've been acting all day or all game

[zakk]

btw in case it was lost in my big post about alignments and who i wanna lynch



we should be looking for traitor interactions.

a traitor is someone who would provide a false negative for a PT-detector cop, and that'd be something that could have been added on TOP of a neighborizer, and masons.

who else thinks this could be a likelihood?

yes. I've been thinking there's a traitor for a bit now.

Do you think we should be worried that you are a traitor?

[zakk]

So nos who do you want to lynch and why?

[zakk]

I think Dunn and Nosferatu should treat this like I'm conftown in 3p LyLo.

And slap fight / scum hunt to the death. May the least scummy man win.

[zakk]

Yea me and Suzune both decided to leave Varsoon alive because survivor is not dangerous until endgame

Ranger we aren't scum and if you want to be considered as even remotely town you better get hip to that

[zakk]

I am pretty much also betting the game that antihero is town

So if anti is town, we're both town, and you're town ranger, who's scum out of Dunn/Dwlee/nos?

Nos himself said the traitor thing too.
You are putting your fingers in your ears and being like "lalalala I can't hear you nos and anti are conftown" but they aren't and you writing that off because you supposedly think I'm scum is dumb

You and Dunn should both LEGITIMATELY suspect each other if EITHER of you are town.

The fact that neither of you do suspect each other is hella bad, and by default, scummy.


Why do you not suspect nos, ranger?
3 reasons pls

[zakk]

Dwlee is town btw

So you get no points for suspecting him

[zakk]

Lol ranger but I'm town so LITERALLY all your shit is wrong so

Answer my question, yea?

[zakk]

I think the mason claim might be legit too

Dunn.
You know what this is.

This is oddly reminiscent of Stack the Deck.

I forget whether it was an entire LACK of a scumcase on a town player...
...Or an entire LACK of a reason for me to be town...

...But I swear to god, this is like that.

I have given you, reason after reason after reason.
Evidence after evidence.
Showing why zakk and Suzune are scum.
I keep on telling you why they're scum.

Setup.
Interactions.
Sketchy posting.
Blatant hypocrisy.
Projecting.

And in response.
Quite literally,

all I get

, in response.
Is, "but I think they're town tho".

No reason why.
No explanation, no rational belief for it.

And I'll tell you why.

Because none exists.

The "masons" are scum.

Yea okay we get you think that okay

But what if you're wrong? What then?

[zakk]

so antihero and nosferatu have to come in and make waves and show themselves to be town, because currently i could definitely see the scenario that they're both just skating and hoping town tears itself apart

^Case'n'point about zakk driving a wedge in the town.
He is, quite literally, casting suspicion everywhere except for at the player he is blatantly sucking up to, and needs in order to get the mislynches he wants.
Yesterday, that player was Luna Fox.
Today, it's Dwlee.

ok so what mislynch do I want? You tell me

Because I am basically lookin for the best lynch for town

But you tell me who I'm tryin to mislynch

Ready?
Go

[zakk]

Dwlee, can you at least respond to the stuff I pointed out? Do you think that makes me less likely scum?


What do you think of Zakk's continued pushing without acknowledging it?

What haven't I acknowledged?

[zakk]

I am pretty much also betting the game that antihero is town

So if anti is town, we're both town, and you're town ranger, who's scum out of Dunn/Dwlee/nos?

Nos himself said the traitor thing too.
You are putting your fingers in your ears and being like "lalalala I can't hear you nos and anti are conftown" but they aren't and you writing that off because you supposedly think I'm scum is dumb

You and Dunn should both LEGITIMATELY suspect each other if EITHER of you are town.

The fact that neither of you do suspect each other is hella bad, and by default, scummy.


Why do you not suspect nos, ranger?
3 reasons pls

Please respond to the points I've made against me being mafia.

Oh this? I'm considering it

It's why I'm leaning more on nos now instead of just you/ranger

[zakk]

I have done nothing but coast??!?

WHAT THE FUCK??!??

[zakk]

Let's put an end to THAT bullshit

180 of my 500 posts have been just on day 7 alone

That's about half of the posts that have happened this day phase

If anybody is coasting it's not me

[zakk]

VOTE: dunnstral

unvote

no hammers until ranger weighs in.

This is also me not letting dunnstral be quick lynched after reaction testing him/Dwlee



There is literally no way anyone should believe I'm scum at this point

[zakk]

If you're town you're fucking stupid ranger

And you're making me angry because I have tried my ass off to make sure town gets a scum lynch today

And I'm very salty that this game hasn't gone better for us after the Varsoon/Titus 1-2 punch that could have blown the game wide open

So you tell me who I'm trying to mislynch

And you tell me what motivation I have to be so active when I could have just lurked to fucking victory

And you tell me why I have put in SO MUCH FUCKING EFFORT

[zakk]

TOOK ME A DAY LONGER THAN I THOUGHT BUT I AM DONE WITH WRITING

NOW LETS ROCK AND ROLL HERE

all I have to say is if you're town that long ass time I've been carrying town better be worth it

And I really really hope you read all my posts thoroughly

Thx

[zakk]

Not that kind of coasting.

You didn't

do anything

and relied on your mason claim to keep yourself from being lynched

The only reason you and suzune haven't been lynched over sircakez and fire assassin is because you guys claimed mason. Not by play.

If anybody is coasting it's not me

Suzune is coasting in that sense of the word

Yup I coasted on my claim because I was busy a bit

Then I couldn't hack it so I replaced out of 2 other games and came to play this one as the ONLY game I'm in and probably the last game I'll play for a long time because I'm sick of mafia

So now I have more time to play this one and I'll be fucking damned if I het told I'm coasting when I've literally left multiple other games to play this one because it might be the last skull game I play ever cause he's also leaving because he's sick f players shit

And THEN the whole fire assassin shit happened

It's like. Writings on the wall. Time to fucking leave

So I better make this last game a good one

So dammit I am trying to

And I cussed out Suzune in the Mason topic for being such a fucking wastrel

But can I control that? No

I can only control myself

I WOULD NEVER FUCKING CLAIM MASONS WITH HER AS SCUM, I would HANG HER SCUMMY ASS OUT TO DRY



IT MAKES NO FUCKING SENSE FOR ME TO BE SCUM

BYE. TALK TO ANTIHERO

I'M OUT

[zakk]

Like. FUCK, you guys

Open your FUCKING EYES

[zakk]

I'm only going to vote Dunn or nos

Voting nos tell us more about anti
But I think Dunn is more likely to be scum

I will let Suzune decide

I am done

[zakk]

I changed my mind

Suzune just vote yourself

I want to be alive tomorrow

And if you're alive you'll be as useless as you were today

And if I die tonight and tomorrow is

Ranger
Dunn
Anti
Nos
Dwlee

Then God help us all

Lol

But we have done what we could and it's past time for you to stop making me look bad and past time for me to be conftown so ranger will shut the fuck up

Vote: Suzune

[zakk]

Vote yourself

I'll make it up to you later suz

We have done all we could

If anti is town he's being an idiot
If ranger is town she's being an idiot

Idk wtf Dunn and nos are doing, I don't think they're town tho

Dwlee. Kill Dunn/nos pls

[zakk]

ITT ranger proves she is a huge dick regardless of alignment

Whoopee

Bye mafia scum

[zakk]

Then vote me

[zakk]

I literally don't fucking care

Fire assassin being a world class asshole almost killed my will to play mafia at all

And ranger is finishing the job

Just fucking put me out of my misery

[zakk]

Last post

[zakk]

Wait one more post

VOTE: Dunnstral

Do me proud, town

[zakk]

I have cooled down some. Don't count me out yet. I will be here in support of only Suzune. Don't expect much.

[zakk]

Unvote

Suzune. You tell me who to vote, and I'll vote them.

[zakk]

Omg, Antihero is being the voice of reason right now

I'm willing to believe that antihero and nosferatu are town
I think town can win this game easily now.

The only two scum teams I will consider

Are [zakk, Suzune]
or [Ranger, Dwlee]

we have two lynches

Suzune we need to work out why your Anti, Dunn theory is dumb and we need to agree on a lynch

well it's not me and suzune

and i highly doubt it's dwlee

so vote ranger and i will count your sins forgiven

[zakk]

vote: Ranger

[zakk]

it's either ranger/dunn or ranger/nos

and if ranger is scum, we lynch dunn or nos
and if they don't flip scum, we lynch the other

and if ranger is not scum, then it's dunn AND nos

that's like, foolproof imo

[zakk]

anti:

who do you think we should lynch today and why

and who do you think will die tonight and why

[zakk]

need to refresh myself on why dwlee's town

i remember reading zakk's stuff and thinking "that's awesome and sheepable" but the specifics kinda faded for me

just iso me and search "dwlee" and go from the bottom up

it'll be in there

[zakk]

i refuse to vote dwlee without a "has a PT" result on him tomorrow from Anti. he's off the table today completely.

there is nothing about ranger that i like, from activity to play style to her attitude and i'm just completely wanting that slot dead for all reasons including PoE

waiting to see anti go through D7 like i did. if that happens, and he comes to the same conclusions as me, i'll be happy. very happy.

if not, i'm gonna vote ranger anyway.

[zakk]

suz you were in killer instinct

ranger was town and was okay being swayed to another point of view

even by someone she thought was scum

in this game, she's completely refused to have any sort of logic or pro-town play style or content other than "x is scum, lynch x" where x is the masons, interchangeably

there's a damn good reason she was wagoned before, and it's because she was not being town-ranger.



p-edit: of course i'm sheepable and awesome. where the fuck have you been

[zakk]

Here is an interesting stretch from vote count 2.24 to vote count 2.25

Spoiler: don't click this if you don't want your mind blown

Day 2, Vote Count #24

Current Vote Count:

(2)

Almost50 -- PeregrineV, Antihero

(1)

SirCakez -- TheWayItEnds

(1)

beeboy -- Ranger

(1)

Ranger -- beeboy

(3)

Nero Cain -- zakk, Titus, TiphaineDeath

(0)

Fire Assassin

(1)

Nosferatu -- SirCakez

(0)

Suzune

(0)

TiphaineDeath

(0)

Dwlee99

(0)

TheWayItEnds

(0)

zakk

(4)

PeregrineV -- Nosferatu, Almost50, Heat, Nero Cain

(0)

Antihero

(0)

Prophylaxis

(0)

Heat

(1)

Dunnstral -- Varsoon

(0)

Varsoon

(4)

Titus -- Dwlee99, Dunnstral, Suzune, Fire Assassin

Not Voting:

Prophylaxis

With 19 votes available, it takes 10 votes to hammer.

Ranger is V/LA until July 12th.
Dwlee99 is V/LA until July 17th.

Day 2 Will End on Saturday, July 16th, at 8 p.m. eastern time.
Countdown: (expired on 2016-07-16 20:00:00)

Hey Dwlee, does the scum team have day talk?

Probably. I think in skull's last game scum had day talk

In Borderlands they did, but only because of a town role
Skull doesn't give scum day talk otherwise (we didn't have it in Killer Instinct)

Nah I don't really care just wanted to see what Dwlee said

some peoples lurker game is strong af this game

aka prophylaxis. and ranger. and varsoon.

my ranger townread is dead fyi, her lurking this much is a scumtell

some peoples lurker game is strong af this game

aka prophylaxis. and ranger. and varsoon.

Bloodborne Mafia (the stupid huge dumb stressful clusterfuck of a game I was running) just ended, so I can finally actually have the presence I want elsewhere without feeling stressed for neglecting my baby.

What's good, homie?

Hi Varsoon!
Who do you think is scum?

Titus, Dunnstral (who I am voting iirc), and prophylaxis are the players I suspect the most.

I'm super tired and stressed out.
I got about 4 hours of sleep before having to get up to resolve the night phase in time for my game
So glad that game is done.

Titus, Dunnstral (who I am voting iirc), and prophylaxis are the players I suspect the most.

I'm super tired and stressed out.
I got about 4 hours of sleep before having to get up to resolve the night phase in time for my game
So glad that game is done.

You suspect me but followed me onto Dunn?

Well Titus, because I think you are scum. I will admit that Nero went on a long rant about things. However, for the first time ever, I do not sense that Nero is scum this game. We are though trapped in a loop. We are either going to lynch you, or we are going to choose another target because the game as stagnated.

Titus, Dunnstral (who I am voting iirc), and prophylaxis are the players I suspect the most.

I'm super tired and stressed out.
I got about 4 hours of sleep before having to get up to resolve the night phase in time for my game
So glad that game is done.

You suspect me but followed me onto Dunn?

Yup!

Suzune you should vote Ranger

I would love to vote Ranger. He is on my scummy list...

Okay, I hate to do this, but I am out for a while now. I am going to take that little vacation that I have been talking about.
Love you all. I will be back to work on this upon my return.

VOTE: Ranger
Nothing is going to happen with that Titus one today.

@Mod, I will be v/la until Monday 18th

Why is my Proph wagon not getting any traction

Because there's already a wagon on scum Nero.

Vote: Titus

some peoples lurker game is strong af this game

aka prophylaxis. and ranger. and varsoon.

Bloodborne Mafia (the stupid huge dumb stressful clusterfuck of a game I was running) just ended, so I can finally actually have the presence I want elsewhere without feeling stressed for neglecting my baby.

What's good, homie?

neglect it more and spam

VOTE: Ranger

That's perfect just what I was waiting 4

VOTE: ranger

ugh
VOTE: Ranger
this works then

Cause they tried to buddy me.
But ranger is today Titus tomorrow

No, Titus today.
Ranger maybe tomorrow.

Day 2, Vote Count #25

Current Vote Count:

(2)

Almost50 -- PeregrineV, Antihero

(1)

SirCakez -- TheWayItEnds

(1)

beeboy -- Ranger

(5)

Ranger -- beeboy, Suzune, Dwlee99, Heat, SirCakez

(1)

Nero Cain -- Titus

(0)

Fire Assassin

(0)

Nosferatu

(0)

Suzune

(0)

TiphaineDeath

(0)

Dwlee99

(0)

TheWayItEnds

(0)

zakk

(3)

PeregrineV -- Nosferatu, Almost50, Nero Cain

(0)

Antihero

(0)

Prophylaxis

(0)

Heat

(1)

Dunnstral -- Varsoon

(0)

Varsoon

(3)

Titus -- Dunnstral, Fire Assassin, zakk

Not Voting:

Prophylaxis, TiphaineDeath

With 19 votes available, it takes 10 votes to hammer.

zakk is V/LA until July 14th.
Dwlee99 is V/LA until July 17th.
Suzune is V/LA until July 18th.

Day 2 Will End on Saturday, July 16th, at 8 p.m. eastern time.
Countdown: (expired on 2016-07-16 20:00:00)

[zakk]

also the only reason i wasn't on varsoon was because i wasn't here. obv

[zakk]

suz you were in killer instinct

ranger was town and was okay being swayed to another point of view

even by someone she thought was scum

This is very true. Very true.

just vote ranger

if dunn is scum he's being worth his salt to his scum team

ranger is just being an asshole

i kinda wanna lynch nos though.


honestly i'm fine lynching anyone today but us, anti, and dwlee

but i prefer ranger.

[zakk]

Contrary to what everyone is saying, a scum team of me and Ranger is actually quite unlikely.

I'll explain after Anti reads through some stuff and maybe he'll pick up on it

how about just tell me now

[zakk]

I think ranger and nos are scum

can we lynch them now?

i said this helllllllla long ago

can we do it in this order too?

VOTE: Ranger.

[zakk]

Not joining Titus wagon

Yeah, zakk is Kappy and is pretty much the same, then you have both Fire Assassin and Suzune too.
The towniest name there is Dunnstral and even there I'm not 100% sure he's town.

*cough cough cough*

[zakk]

Here is an interesting stretch from vote count 2.24 to vote count 2.25

Spoiler: don't click this if you don't want your mind blown

Day 2, Vote Count #24

Current Vote Count:

(2)

Almost50 -- PeregrineV, Antihero

(1)

SirCakez -- TheWayItEnds

(1)

beeboy -- Ranger

(1)

Ranger -- beeboy

(3)

Nero Cain -- zakk, Titus, TiphaineDeath

(0)

Fire Assassin

(1)

Nosferatu -- SirCakez

(0)

Suzune

(0)

TiphaineDeath

(0)

Dwlee99

(0)

TheWayItEnds

(0)

zakk

(4)

PeregrineV -- Nosferatu, Almost50, Heat, Nero Cain

(0)

Antihero

(0)

Prophylaxis

(0)

Heat

(1)

Dunnstral -- Varsoon

(0)

Varsoon

(4)

Titus -- Dwlee99, Dunnstral, Suzune, Fire Assassin

Not Voting:

Prophylaxis

With 19 votes available, it takes 10 votes to hammer.

Ranger is V/LA until July 12th.
Dwlee99 is V/LA until July 17th.

Day 2 Will End on Saturday, July 16th, at 8 p.m. eastern time.
Countdown: (expired on 2016-07-16 20:00:00)

Hey Dwlee, does the scum team have day talk?

Probably. I think in skull's last game scum had day talk

In Borderlands they did, but only because of a town role
Skull doesn't give scum day talk otherwise (we didn't have it in Killer Instinct)

Nah I don't really care just wanted to see what Dwlee said

some peoples lurker game is strong af this game

aka prophylaxis. and ranger. and varsoon.

my ranger townread is dead fyi, her lurking this much is a scumtell

my ranger townread is dead fyi, her lurking this much is a scumtell

Town read on Ranger being dead is fine. She's vlaed other games due to illness. I think she forgot this one. Whether that's AI or not, who knows?

some peoples lurker game is strong af this game

aka prophylaxis. and ranger. and varsoon.

Bloodborne Mafia (the stupid huge dumb stressful clusterfuck of a game I was running) just ended, so I can finally actually have the presence I want elsewhere without feeling stressed for neglecting my baby.

What's good, homie?

Hi Varsoon!
Who do you think is scum?

Titus, Dunnstral (who I am voting iirc), and prophylaxis are the players I suspect the most.

I'm super tired and stressed out.
I got about 4 hours of sleep before having to get up to resolve the night phase in time for my game
So glad that game is done.

Titus, Dunnstral (who I am voting iirc), and prophylaxis are the players I suspect the most.

I'm super tired and stressed out.
I got about 4 hours of sleep before having to get up to resolve the night phase in time for my game
So glad that game is done.

You suspect me but followed me onto Dunn?

Well Titus, because I think you are scum. I will admit that Nero went on a long rant about things. However, for the first time ever, I do not sense that Nero is scum this game. We are though trapped in a loop. We are either going to lynch you, or we are going to choose another target because the game as stagnated.

Titus, Dunnstral (who I am voting iirc), and prophylaxis are the players I suspect the most.

I'm super tired and stressed out.
I got about 4 hours of sleep before having to get up to resolve the night phase in time for my game
So glad that game is done.

You suspect me but followed me onto Dunn?

Yup!

Suzune you should vote Ranger

I would love to vote Ranger. He is on my scummy list...

Okay, I hate to do this, but I am out for a while now. I am going to take that little vacation that I have been talking about.
Love you all. I will be back to work on this upon my return.

VOTE: Ranger
Nothing is going to happen with that Titus one today.

@Mod, I will be v/la until Monday 18th

Why is my Proph wagon not getting any traction

Because there's already a wagon on scum Nero.

Vote: Titus

some peoples lurker game is strong af this game

aka prophylaxis. and ranger. and varsoon.

Bloodborne Mafia (the stupid huge dumb stressful clusterfuck of a game I was running) just ended, so I can finally actually have the presence I want elsewhere without feeling stressed for neglecting my baby.

What's good, homie?

neglect it more and spam

VOTE: Ranger

That's perfect just what I was waiting 4

VOTE: ranger

ugh
VOTE: Ranger
this works then

Cause they tried to buddy me.
But ranger is today Titus tomorrow

No, Titus today.
Ranger maybe tomorrow.

Day 2, Vote Count #25

Current Vote Count:

(2)

Almost50 -- PeregrineV, Antihero

(1)

SirCakez -- TheWayItEnds

(1)

beeboy -- Ranger

(5)

Ranger -- beeboy, Suzune, Dwlee99, Heat, SirCakez

(1)

Nero Cain -- Titus

(0)

Fire Assassin

(0)

Nosferatu

(0)

Suzune

(0)

TiphaineDeath

(0)

Dwlee99

(0)

TheWayItEnds

(0)

zakk

(3)

PeregrineV -- Nosferatu, Almost50, Nero Cain

(0)

Antihero

(0)

Prophylaxis

(0)

Heat

(1)

Dunnstral -- Varsoon

(0)

Varsoon

(3)

Titus -- Dunnstral, Fire Assassin, zakk

Not Voting:

Prophylaxis, TiphaineDeath

With 19 votes available, it takes 10 votes to hammer.

zakk is V/LA until July 14th.
Dwlee99 is V/LA until July 17th.
Suzune is V/LA until July 18th.

Day 2 Will End on Saturday, July 16th, at 8 p.m. eastern time.
Countdown: (expired on 2016-07-16 20:00:00)

What am I looking at here?

1. me voting titus when the wagon was shifting to ranger (i'm town)
2. you reaction testing dwlee about scum daytalk and him passing with flying colors (dwlee's town)
3. heat throwing shade on ranger and varsoon's lurking game (before being killed at night)
4. sircakez saying his town read on ranger is dead, and titus soft defending ranger (yes, you read that right)
5. varsoon and titus scum-back-and-forthin' about dunnstral (does this mean anything? maybe, maybe not)
6. suzune saying she thinks titus is scum (but also wanting to vote ranger)
7. multiple KNOWN, FLIPPED townies voting ranger (i.e. not a SCUM counter-wagon, just a counter-wagon to someone who ended up being scum)

and all of that between two vote counts.

[zakk]

I feel like once we lynch one scum all the associations will fall into place based on how everyone is playing.

ALSO WHY IS EVERYONE IGNORING RANGER

VOTE: Ranger

*dies shortly afterwards*

[zakk]

Ranger lurking this much is a scumtell

Bite me.

it's always the scum who say "bite me"


and then they just kill htem at night




which she did.

[zakk]

Lets lynch Varsoon.

This is fair.
VOTE: Varsoon.

this is why ranger was on the varsoon wagon

THIS IS WHY

[zakk]

And by the way:
This is me, having read Varsoon's claim.
And not unvoting.

Like, ever.

scum theatre obv



"like, ever"

lmfao get fucked

[zakk]

@Ranger: any reads?

I would lynch Fire Assassin.

I've made my opinion on all other players known. The only change is that

zakk and Suzune are getting a pass on their claims.

that sure lasted a long time

hurr durrrr

[zakk]

Claim or be lynched

I'd like to see you try.

Dead serious. That's not a joke. I want to actually see you

try

.
Not just say it. Try it.

I'm not strongly against massclaim, especially if town players approve of it.
But I don't think anything good will come from it, and as a result, am

certainly

not claiming because you want it.

scum puffing their chest out



because they can't back up their words with anything real

[zakk]

how the fuck is playing like this acceptable in any way

One, I was advocating for the death of scum long before most players. So, I can still scumhunt using this play.
Two, I told you I was going to play this way before the game even began.

1. "i voted scum before it was cool" = i voted my buddy at an opportune moment to make it look like i was scumhunting, in case others voted them too

2. "i told you i was going to be anti-town, therefore you should have expected it, and therefore it is not a scum-tell"



lol.

again, get fucked.

[zakk]

She bothers me cause she doesn't post much and then beetlejuices but when she beetlejuices she makes me think she is town so ?

I come sometimes when I'm not called.
I've failed to come, multiple times, when called.
So, pretty sure I fail to fit the definition of beetlejuicing in every possible way.

(Obligatory rant here: I post every day, or almost every day, within the exact same six hour window. Except on weekends, though sometimes like this time even then. This time is at a time when most players have already posted for the day. So, if at ANY point, ANY of them call my name, the accusation of beetlejuicing can be made because no duh I came after I was called, with my schedule I can't exactly come before I'm called now can I?)

So, knowing that, what do you think?

1. "nuh uh, dwlee, i haven't beetlejuiced ='["

2. "obligatory rant" ... reminds me of this one by TellTaleHeart... and please pay NO attention to what SHE flipped (hint: it's not town)

But I still wanna lynch her for having such terrible reads

Uh-huh. In a 21-player game, I've had a grand total of three reads wrong.

How many have you had? Pretty sure it's more than that, though I'd have to actually go and check to be sure.

1. "i'm 'right-er' than you, therefore i'm town!"

i.e. more scum chest-puffing

2. if she really thought i was scum, she wouldn't think i had right/wrong reads. she'd just think i was faking reads.

[zakk]

Another kind of VCA

Spoiler: Ranger's Reads throughout the game

{

SirCakez

,

SoulEaterQueen

}
{

beeboy

,

Almost50

,

Suzune

}
{

Prophylaxis/Luna

,

Titus

}
{

Fire Assassin

}
1.

{

SirCakez

,

SoulEaterQueen

}
{

beeboy

,

Almost50

,

Suzune

,

Titus

}
{

DrippingGoofball

,

TheWayItEnds

}
{

Prophylaxis/Luna

}
{

Jackrito

}
{

Fire Assassin

}
4.

Two town points to whoever can tell me exactly why Fire Assasin is scum, and an extra credit point if you can tell me one of his probable partners.

Hey, that's my line!
{

TiphaineDeath

}
{

SirCakez

,

SoulEaterQueen

}
{

beeboy

,

Almost50

,

Suzune

,

Titus

}
{

DrippingGoofball

,

TheWayItEnds

}
{

Prophylaxis/Luna

}
{

Jackrito

}
{

Fire Assassin

}

{

TiphaineDeath

}
{

SirCakez

,

SoulEaterQueen

}
{

beeboy

,

Almost50

,

Suzune

,

Titus

,

Nero Cain

}
{

DrippingGoofball

,

TheWayItEnds

}
{

Prophylaxis/Luna

,

Heat

,

Varsoon

}
{

Jackrito

,

Brian Hollywood

}
{

Fire Assassin

}

I say this because Ranger comes off as "derp-town" TM to me right now as well, so there is no reason that in particular can't be a real read, just was also a ping off the top of my head.

You say this now, but when we compare overall read accuracy from you compared to me by game's end......

Ranger- I get your reasoning for

Fire Assassin

as scum (134). And it does look exactly like that. However, I like how they are posting overall.

Their posting overall was one of the reasons I voted them. I was scumreading

Fire Assassin

long before 134.

TiphaineDeath

actually picked up on some of the reasoning, though not all of it.
{

TiphaineDeath

}
{

SirCakez

,

SoulEaterQueen

}
{

beeboy

,

Almost50

,

Suzune

,

Titus

,

Nero Cain

}
{

DrippingGoofball

,

TheWayItEnds

,

PeregrineV

}
{

Prophylaxis/Luna

,

Heat

,

Varsoon

}
{

Jackrito

,

Brian Hollywood

}
{

Fire Assassin

}

{

TiphaineDeath

}
{

SirCakez

,

SoulEaterQueen

,

Nero Cain

}
{

beeboy

,

Almost50

,

Suzune

,

Titus

}
{

DrippingGoofball

,

TheWayItEnds

,

PeregrineV

}
{

Prophylaxis/Luna

,

Heat

,

Varsoon

,

Kappy/zakk

}
{

Jackrito

,

Brian Hollywood

}
{

Fire Assassin

}

How do you scumread me?

Well in part? Because of this post!

Also I am 90% sure Ranger is null reading

Kappy/zakk

.

Well actually it

was

nullscum, but it's a lot heavier on the scum now.
{

TiphaineDeath

}
{

SirCakez

,

SoulEaterQueen

,

Nero Cain

}
{

beeboy

,

Almost50

,

Suzune

,

Titus

}
{

DrippingGoofball

,

TheWayItEnds

,

PeregrineV

}
{

Prophylaxis/Luna

,

Heat

,

Varsoon

}
{

Jackrito

,

Brian Hollywood

,

Kappy/zakk

}
{

Fire Assassin

}

{

TiphaineDeath

,

SirCakez

}
{

SoulEaterQueen

,

Nero Cain

}
{

beeboy

,

Almost50

,

Suzune

,

Titus

,

TheWayItEnds

}
{

DrippingGoofball

,

PeregrineV

}
{

Prophylaxis/Luna

,

Heat

,

Varsoon

,

Nosferatu

,

Dwlee

}
{

Jackrito

,

Brian Hollywood

,

Kappy/zakk

}
{

Fire Assassin

}

Cakez, Ranger which one of you 2 wants to be my buddy this game?

Always.
{

TiphaineDeath

,

SirCakez

}
{

SoulEaterQueen

,

Nero Cain

}
{

beeboy

,

Almost50

,

Suzune

,

Titus

,

TheWayItEnds

}
{

DrippingGoofball

,

PeregrineV

,

Nosferatu

}
{

Prophylaxis/Luna

,

Heat

,

Varsoon

,

Dwlee

}
{

Jackrito

,

Brian Hollywood

,

Kappy/zakk

}
{

Fire Assassin

}

Ranger we are wagoning

Brian Hollywood

would you like to join us?

Sure.
VOTE:

Brian Hollywood

.
{

TiphaineDeath

,

SirCakez

}
{

SoulEaterQueen

,

Nero Cain

}
{

beeboy

,

Almost50

,

Suzune

,

Titus

,

TheWayItEnds

}
{

DrippingGoofball

,

PeregrineV

,

Nosferatu

,

Heat

}
{

Prophylaxis/Luna

,

Varsoon

,

Dwlee

}
{

Jackrito

,

Brian Hollywood

,

Kappy/zakk

}
{

Fire Assassin

}

{

TiphaineDeath

,

SirCakez

,

Antihero

}
{

Nero Cain

}
{

beeboy

,

Almost50

,

Suzune

,

Titus

,

TheWayItEnds

}
{

DrippingGoofball

,

PeregrineV

,

Nosferatu

,

Heat

}
{

Prophylaxis/Luna

,

Varsoon

,

Dwlee

}
{

Dunnstral

,

Brian Hollywood

,

Kappy/zakk

}
{

Fire Assassin

}

Is the new meta of games just to announce: I think X is town or X is town
or for when you scumread
I think X is scum or X is scum

Would you rather bracketed readslist?
I can do that, you know.
{

TiphaineDeath

,

SirCakez

,

Antihero

}
{

Nero Cain

}
{

beeboy

,

Almost50

,

Suzune

,

Titus

,

TheWayItEnds

}
{

Dwlee

}
{

DrippingGoofball

,

PeregrineV

,

Nosferatu

,

Heat

}
{

Prophylaxis/Luna

,

Varsoon

}
{

Dunnstral

,

Brian Hollywood

,

Kappy/zakk

}
{

Fire Assassin

}

{

TiphaineDeath

,

SirCakez

,

Antihero

}
{

Nero Cain

}
{

beeboy

,

Almost50

,

Titus

,

TheWayItEnds

}
{

Dwlee

}
{

DrippingGoofball

,

PeregrineV

,

Nosferatu

,

Heat

}
{

Prophylaxis/Luna

,

Varsoon

,

Suzune

}
{

Dunnstral

,

Brian Hollywood

,

Kappy/zakk

}
{

Fire Assassin

}
21.

{

TiphaineDeath

,

SirCakez

,

Antihero

}
{

Nero Cain

}
{

beeboy

,

Almost50

,

Titus

,

TheWayItEnds

,

Dwlee

}
{

DrippingGoofball

,

PeregrineV

,

Nosferatu

,

Heat

}
{

Prophylaxis/Luna

,

Varsoon

,

Suzune

}
{

Dunnstral

,

Brian Hollywood

,

Kappy/zakk

}
{

Fire Assassin

}
22.

{

TiphaineDeath

,

SirCakez

,

Antihero

}
{

Nero Cain

,

Almost50

}
{

beeboy

,

Titus

,

TheWayItEnds

,

Dwlee

}
{

DrippingGoofball

,

PeregrineV

,

Nosferatu

,

Heat

}
{

Prophylaxis/Luna

,

Varsoon

,

Suzune

}
{

Dunnstral

,

Brian Hollywood

,

Kappy/zakk

}
{

Fire Assassin

}
23.

{

TiphaineDeath

,

SirCakez

,

Antihero

}
{

Nero Cain

,

Almost50

,

Dwlee

}
{

beeboy

,

Titus

,

TheWayItEnds

}
{

DrippingGoofball

,

PeregrineV

,

Nosferatu

,

Heat

}
{

Prophylaxis/Luna

,

Varsoon

,

Suzune

}
{

Dunnstral

,

Brian Hollywood

,

Kappy/zakk

}
{

Fire Assassin

}

{

TiphaineDeath

,

SirCakez

,

Antihero

,

Nero Cain

}
{

Almost50

,

Dwlee

}
{

beeboy

,

Titus

,

TheWayItEnds

}
{

DrippingGoofball

,

PeregrineV

,

Nosferatu

,

Heat

}
{

Prophylaxis/Luna

,

Varsoon

,

Suzune

}
{

Dunnstral

,

Brian Hollywood

,

Kappy/zakk

}
{

Fire Assassin

}
There we go.

going up to deadline for the sake of "taking all the time" is a scourge on modern site meta

^
Days should last only as long as is productive.

I don't see how we're not at that point.

{

TiphaineDeath

,

SirCakez

,

Antihero

,

Nero Cain

}
{

Almost50

,

Dwlee

,

Heat

}
{

beeboy

,

Titus

,

TheWayItEnds

}
{

DrippingGoofball

,

PeregrineV

,

Nosferatu

}
{

Prophylaxis/Luna

,

Varsoon

,

Suzune

,

Dunnstral

}
{

Brian Hollywood

,

Kappy/zakk

}
{

Fire Assassin

}

{

TiphaineDeath

,

SirCakez

,

Antihero

,

Nero Cain

}
{

Almost50

,

Dwlee

,

Heat

,

Titus

}
{

beeboy

,

TheWayItEnds

}
{

DrippingGoofball

,

PeregrineV

,

Nosferatu

}
{

Prophylaxis/Luna

,

Varsoon

,

Suzune

,

Dunnstral

}
{

Brian Hollywood

,

Kappy/zakk

}
{

Fire Assassin

}

Town Ranger would have been pushing me incredibly hard right now.

That implies I have need to push you.

I hold none.

Town Ranger would be doing something right now

And why would that be? Because you said so? Because I have a reputation? Because I MUST do something?

It gets old, fast.

As someone who just saw scum-ranger lurk through the entirety of Bloodborne Mafia,
VOTE: Ranger

Varsoon

might be scum for this.

The difference between my Blooodborne posting and my posting here is night and day.
In both games, I lurked.
But what I did when I was around was, 100%, completely and entirely a different animal.

Doesn't town Ranger have good reads?

Some: {

Almost50

,

Antihero

,

Heat

,

Nero Cain

,

SirCakez

,

TiphaineDeath

} are all hard-townreads.
{

beeboy

,

Suzune

,

Fire Assassin

} are all solid scumreads.
All other reads are negotiable basically. Good reason I haven't made a readslist.

{

Suzune

,

zakk

,

Fire Assassin

,

Varsoon

,

Nosferatu

}
This is my lynch pool.
At this stage, I don't see me lynching anyone outside that list, because by lynching everyone within it, I think we have a guaranteed win.

Ok, then. Please do.

Like I said.
Makoto, VT.

There's really nothing to be gained from that.

Ranger I'm not sure what you're doing right now

The

Nosferatu

vote was done before I learned he had been confirmed.

Then, we have

zakk

's reaction.

zakk

's reaction, when learning that

Nosferatu

--his secondary mislynch after me--is cleared, was textbook scum.

So, at this point, I'm done waiting for a nightkill on him that's never going to come.

Nosferatu

is town, because I can't fathom Skullduggery including a role that would be immune to

Antihero

's role when there's already the neighborhood as millers.
{

Luna Fox

,

Antihero

,

Almost50

} are god-tiered townreads. If you add

Nosferatu

in there by result, you get this:
{

Dunnstral

} is a strong townread.
{

TheWayItEnds

,

Dwlee

} are weak townreads.
That leaves my two major scumreads:

Suzune

was a major scumread of mine.

zakk

was a major scumread of mine.
And they are claiming masons, mutually confirming each other, and because they claim to have a topic, they are 'conveniently' immune to

Antihero

, which would probably be one reason he's still alive.

Tell me.
Be honest.

If not for their mason claim, what the HELL would you think of their play?

I think they are scum.

So either you think we knew we were going to be the last two scum, and have been setting up a dumb ass Mason claim which would link us together for NO reason, all the way since DAY ONE, and literally planned out all our interactions before hand to make this claim make perfect sense, and fabricated a bunch of shit from our allegedly fake Mason topic

...Alternatively?
You were on a scumteam that has members who are not bus-happy. In particular?

Titus

is NOTORIOUSLY anti-bus. She would strongly advocate the same to her scumteam. This would only be common sense. Meaning, of course you didn't think each other scum. That doesn't mean you were setting up a mason claim. It just means you were trying not to bus, and hoping to never get into a position where flip associatives would be condemning.

Like, you're trying to paint it as occam's razor.
The simplest explanation for your actions as scum isn't some complex scenario. It's just "

zakk

and

Suzune

chose not to bus, and later used these interactions to fake mason".

But instead you continue to build your entire case around the masons, as you have done all game.

Pretty patently false. I've held

suspicion

on you and

zakk

almost the entire game, but far from focusing on you.

You are not studying the actions of anyone else and are instead spending all your free time crusading between two people who are town because you want to.

You paint this as a bad thing. I call it simple efficiency. Because here's the simple facts.
There are seven players alive.

Antihero

is town, period.

Nosferatu

, by

Antihero

's result, is town.
I am town.

That leaves two possible scumteams.
And ONLY two.
{

zakk

,

Suzune

}. Two players I've been suspicious of.
And {

Dunnstral

,

Dwlee

}. Two players I've had as town for the majority of the game.

So it's really that simple. I don't need to go look at associations. I don't need to waste time on these things. Because the game is simple. The game is, at its most fundamental level, just a choice: one team, or the other team. If one flips town, the other is scum. If one flips scum, lynch the other in that pair and the other pair is town. No need for anything more than that.

So of course I'm doing nothing but pushing you.
Because doing anything else? Is showy. Is putting on theater. Is putting on an act. But ultimately, useless, redundant, unnecessary, because of this simple truth.

"we can continue mislynch ing like we did with TWIE, or we can lunch scum" is a blatant appeal to fear.

No, wrong fallacy.
The fallacy I used is known as "appeal to facts". I'm appealing to how

SirCakez

was a mislynch and I told you he was. I'm appealing to how

Varsoon

was a scum lynch just like I said. I'm appealing to how

TheWayItEnds

was a town lynch just like I said he was. So I'm therefore also appealing to not mislynch

Dunnstral

or

Dwlee

today (yet alone, me).

Get your facts straight.

She's REALLY cranking up the appeals to emotion today.

Do tell.

And she's treating this day's lynch like it's potentially game-ending. Which it's not, for town. It's only potentially game ending for scum.

This is already self-evident. If we lynch scum, the game is over: scum lose. If we lynch town, the game will continue tomorrow, with scum more influential in the game's outcome. There's no scenario where scum win today, sure...but there is a scenario where town wins.
One.
One, and only one.

And that's by lynching the scum.
And guess what I've been pushing for?

I want the game over.
So I want to lynch a "mason", and tomorrow, lynch their scumbuddy.

By your own logic, by your own argument, you're proving that I am town and that you're scum.

[zakk]

goodbye, ranger.

see you in the fucking dead thread

[zakk]

ehehehehehehe

[zakk]

Skipped all those posts entirely

Lynch ranger

[zakk]

Bc ranger is gettin ganked

But still somehow thinks walls are protown and will save her

[zakk]

Which after her play D1-D6 is pretty stupid to think

[zakk]

I am completely ignoring her posts. You should too

[zakk]

Dwlee you're being particularly useless, any reason why?

[zakk]

Yes you are.

[zakk]

vote: Dwlee

[zakk]

dwlee posts in the latter half of the game about:

Spoiler: MASONS (let's flip one! before lylo! seriously! let's choose between them and flip one!)

we are flippin a mason before lylo tho

If youre town the mason claims are probz scum then

do we want zakk or suzune to be alive on the off chance the masons claim is real?

if the masons are town don't we auto win?

or rather, if we assume the masons are town and are right we have 3 lynches left and should automatically win

Spoiler: ZAKK (occasionally throw indirect shade, but never attack, cause zakk isn't attacking me)

Fuck you zakk. I wasnt making a big deal about it. I was just mentioning it. Go fuck yourself for everything youve posted to me the last few pages. Im gonna play this game however the fuck I want to and youre gonna shut the fuck up. ~k~
@Suzune It is fine, I was just pointing it out cause I know it is an honest mistake and I noticed it. The things I want colored is pretty much every vote count in this game lol

chill DW, Zakk is just using fake bravado to appear town.

>_>

I think if zakk and suzune are scum people in dead thread be like: dwlee is the hero we needed but the one we didnt deserve or like nero being like: YES DWLEE FLIP ONE OF THEM

if we were scum doing this, it'd be a stupid gambit that wouldn't actually accomplish anything.

you'd say this as scum >_>

cause he hasn't done anything all game and his role claim can be easily faked with a pt spy

Hm. I guess

But looking over his role claim it looks pretty legit

He tried to get beeboy lynched before even claiming

Which is exactly what I would expect a town version of him to do

maybe idk

so antihero and nosferatu have to come in and make waves and show themselves to be town, because currently i could definitely see the scenario that they're both just skating and hoping town tears itself apart

^Case'n'point about zakk driving a wedge in the town.
He is, quite literally, casting suspicion everywhere except for at the player he is blatantly sucking up to, and needs in order to get the mislynches he wants.
Yesterday, that player was Luna Fox.
Today, it's Dwlee.

Am i getting buddied

>,.,>

Spoiler: SUZUNE (the literal entirety of this is talking about VCA. much yawn. such boring. wow)

Fuck you zakk. I wasnt making a big deal about it. I was just mentioning it. Go fuck yourself for everything youve posted to me the last few pages. Im gonna play this game however the fuck I want to and youre gonna shut the fuck up. ~k~
@Suzune It is fine, I was just pointing it out cause I know it is an honest mistake and I noticed it. The things I want colored is pretty much every vote count in this game lol

@Suzune It is fine, I was just pointing it out cause I know it is an honest mistake and I noticed it. The things I want colored is pretty much every vote count in this game lol

i have the main lynches done, but nothing else because I was looking at the earlier. But there is not enough to go on, very few people who have flipped are on any of the trains that went to market. The only train with a least four already confirmed townies, and I am counting Zakk and myself, is Rangers. All the other ones have too little information on them to draw from. If you do them all, power to you, but I am not sure what you are hoping to gain,

Oh did you not color all the vote counts at once? I think I can get stuff from looking at all the vote counts if you can have them colored.

How to easily color all the vote counts quickly and properly:
Multiquote all the vote counts.
Hit preview
Ctrl+A and Ctrl+X the vote counts
Ctrl+V into word or google docs.
Find:

(this is just the color used for the vote counts) Replace: *blank* Replace all
Next, Find: *name of player who flipped town*, Replace

*playername*

, repeat for every flipped town player
Next, Find *name of player who flipped scum*, Replace

*player name*

Ctrl+A Ctrl+C
Go to mafia scum tab
ctrl+V
Preview

quote and read this post and color the VCs this way
@suzune

@Dwlee what are you going to do with it. I mean. How is it going to help you. There are seventy plus vote counts. There is no reason for me to grab them all for you.

you can do them all at once, so why does it matter. But Im gonna do VCA obviously

You would be better off making an excel table and charting who votes for who. But some votes are situational which means they need a different weight.

I wonder how to phrase politely that unless someone else wants it done, that I see no value in this busy work.

What
I just need them colored so I can look at them

But suzune, it isnt like Im asking you to copy and paste 70 times. Im asking you to multiquote the vote counts and then copy and paste once >_>

I swear, I will do this for you. But, seriously if you do not pull something useful out of it, we will have a problem.
This is almost as bad as when scum Titus derailed my hunt to ask for something random.

thank you
@luna The way to enter data for scumputer confuses me

I thought the "hang on" meant suzune's doing it.
I like doing just Highlight > Quote coz then it doesnt quote formatting

that works for vote counts but you cant do that with multiquote.

thank you suzune <3

That sounds like way too much work, tbh, suzune. The farthest Ive went is iso mapping on day two.on two players and even that was brain numbing.

I'm not voting you because I think that we might want to lynch suzune first.
What is the "nature" of your guilty?

[zakk]

Also, let's check out the evolution of dwlees read on nosferatu throughout the game:

828, 832, 858, 1064, 1130, 1153, 1156, 1173, 1177 ...

Doesn't really mention him again until 3405 and calls him "difficult to read"

Spoiler: dwlee stuff about nosferatu

I might need to try obv-towning all over this game so I can die N1, cause I have too many games rn :/

do this

What were your reads again?

Beeboy, titus, sircakez, dgb town reads.
Nero, Nosf scum reads
Super undecided on you
Varying levels of "I dont even know" to "I think they

might

be ___" on everyone else

nosferatu do something ffs
VOTE: nosferatu

VOTE: nosferatu

Brian today, Nos tomorrow

Are you two losers not seeing nos' recent posts or do we just not care anyway

I voted nos already, did you not remember you said you were sheeping me?

nero stop being bad and vote nos.
(Also thanks for noticing !)

nero stop being super awesome and mislynch nos.

that's kinda what I think you are really saying here.

Like the Nos wagon kinda popped up outta the blue and I don't understand why its a thing. The company is also gross. I'm a tad worried that maybe Nos is a bus but beyond that its horrible as there seems to be no basis.

It is a thing cause nos is doing absolutely nothing in the thread. And I like my company so

if you agree with me on nosferatu why are you vanity wagoning me?

----

02 SirCakez
06 Fire Assassin*
07 Nosferatu*
09 TiphaineDeath
13 TheWayItEnds*
14 zakk
16 Antihero
00 Suzune (accidently erased)

ppl that are being difficult to read

looks like a scum backtrack on a buddy. being willing to ignore him after it is clear titus, varsoon, AND PeregrineV have gone down like lead balloons.

---

and today he is willing to vote dunnstral.


And he keeps pushing on antihero:
3829, 4475, 4783, 4893, 4913, 4944, 4945, 4965, 4981, 4995, 4996, 5055, 5119, 5122, 5187

Spoiler: dwlee's stuff about antihero

reminder that antihero can claim a guilty on a scum buddy

Wow it was bullshit
>.>
Didnt call that one at all
UNVOTE:
Okay so maybe ranger antihero?

Okay so maybe ranger antihero?

This doesn't even make sense

like how did you get there

I think youre town
Then there is ranger nosferatu and antihero and I think my best bet for town in there is nosferatu and I dont think scum anti claims an inno on his partner

If ranger or dunn flips town antihero is confirmed scum unless the masons are scum

I think an anti flip might be good here

explain how Nosferatu can be scum with anyone other than anti when anti has an inno on him

I think it is anti and ranger or dunn

Do you really think there is a traitor to further reduce the power of an investigative role? I think if dunn flips town anti is confirmed scum

If dunn is town anti is confirmed scum cause it cant be nosferatu and ranger

But here is my logic: If anti's role is in the game the odd night part, masons and a neighborhood weaken it a lot, a traitor is super unlikely. Because a traitor is super unlikely, if the scum team doesnt have dunnstral that means that either it is nosferstu and ranger, antihero and ranger, or antihero and nosferatu. Because of the fact there probably isnt a traitor in the game the scum team cannot be nosferatu and ranger, only anti and nos or anti and ranger

actually..
VOTE: antihero
antihero town flip clinches the game if masons are town
nosferatu becomes confirmed and it can only be dunn and ranger

my bet is ranger anti so if we lose and I was right I can spam quote this

(11) Brian Hollywood -- SirCakez, Heat, Prophylaxis, beeboy, DrippingGoofball, Ranger, Antihero, Nosferatu, Titus, Varsoon, Almost50
2 flipped scum
6 flipped town
3 unknown
le sigh

ranger, antihero, nosferatu
3 unflipped people in a ROW
why

(11) Brian Hollywood -- SirCakez, Heat, Prophylaxis, beeboy, DrippingGoofball, Ranger,

Antihero, Nosferatu, Titus, Varsoon

, Almost50
2 flipped scum
6 flipped town
3 unknown
le sigh

Idk.. it is possible ?

I see it more likely that there is a gap somewhere there, like

Ranger, Antihero

,

Nosferatu

,

Titus, Varsoon

totally willing to color antihero red

totally willing to color nosferatu green

does not even consider the alternative

SirCakez -- Antihero,

Fire Assassin, TiphaineDeath, Heat, Nero Cain, Luna Fox

, zakk,

Varsoon

, Dunnstral

picks a wagon to analyze that nosferatu is not even on

^ like literally everything in there is anti-antihero
and everything in here is pretty much "well, anti is prob scum so nos has to be town"


and if that's not enough, here's dwlee's stance(s) on ranger:

Spoiler: dwlee stuff about ranger

@suzune
Ranger is town
Imma do some ~VCA~

Can we lynch ranger anyway

ranger, the setup requires more than just an oddnight pt tracker that has false positives imo

Wow it was bullshit
>.>
Didnt call that one at all
UNVOTE:
Okay so maybe ranger antihero?

Okay so maybe ranger antihero?

This doesn't even make sense

like how did you get there

I think youre town
Then there is ranger nosferatu and antihero and I think my best bet for town in there is nosferatu and I dont think scum anti claims an inno on his partner

Okay I have no idea who ranger's partner is atm it could be anyone but
VOTE: Ranger

can we lynch ranger

can we lynch ranger

If ranger or dunn flips town antihero is confirmed scum unless the masons are scum

Dunnstral, lynch ranger.

I think it is anti and ranger or dunn

If dunn is town anti is confirmed scum cause it cant be nosferatu and ranger

But here is my logic: If anti's role is in the game the odd night part, masons and a neighborhood weaken it a lot, a traitor is super unlikely. Because a traitor is super unlikely, if the scum team doesnt have dunnstral that means that either it is nosferstu and ranger, antihero and ranger, or antihero and nosferatu. Because of the fact there probably isnt a traitor in the game the scum team cannot be nosferatu and ranger, only anti and nos or anti and ranger

actually..
VOTE: antihero
antihero town flip clinches the game if masons are town
nosferatu becomes confirmed and it can only be dunn and ranger

VOTE: ranger
?

my bet is ranger anti so if we lose and I was right I can spam quote this

can we like not until ranger and antihero have responded to prods or been replaced

Weird. Why are they still alive

It's almost as if you're keeping players you're SCUMREADING alive so you don't have to CHANGE your scumreads or something.

Maybe just a little.

Ranger is trying to lynch one of the masons so hard that all other things have faded into the background

You keep saying this.
You keep on preaching this as if it's a point.
But I've made my stance on this

abundantly

clear.

I am willing to risk the game on Antihero being town.
My read there is not budging. Ever.
If I'm wrong, so be it. I lose. Don't care, he'd have earned it. He's town. Period, end of discussion.

I trust his result on Nosferatu to be accurate.
YOU keep saying, "But, there could be a weird godfather type role or something".
You keep saying that.
And yet, that's the slimiest, sketchiest thing in the entire game.

It is, quite literally, a dead repeat of what you did in Killer Instinct,

absolute deja vu

, of how you treated Toogeloo's innocent result-forwarded-to-Kuroi in that game. You couldn't win if they were both considered conftown. You, absolutely. could.

not

. win. If they were mutually townreading each other, and the town players (me among them!) also townread them. So you drove a wedge between them by planting that paranoia. You were the first to say it there. You were the first to suggest maybe one--or both--of them were scum. You pushed this around a bit, but you didn't really vote them.

And then, bingo. Like magic...the seeds sprouted. The paranoia of a STATISTICALLY IMPROBABLE SCENARIO grew in the town's mind. The paranoia of something

incredibly

unlikely came up. Others bought it, and others voted off of it, and using that opportunity, you quickhammered for the win, all because you did the one thing you needed to: break the town cohesion.

Same thing here.
You've planted the seed of doubt on Nosferatu. FIRST to do so. But others have begun to buy it. You can't win the game if both Antihero and Nosferatu are considered conftown. It's literally impossible. So what do you do? You try to make us doubt it. You try to make us think, "maybe Nosferatu is some weird role that'd be immune?". You try to make us ignore the clear. You try to divide the town, break the town, in half.

...Speaking of which, your continued pushing of a {Dunnstral, Ranger} team works similarly! Dunnstral is hard-townreading me. I am strongly townreading Dunnstral. I am also townreading Antihero and Nosferatu. Tying those together is something you, as scum,

absolutely cannot allow

. So there you are, trying to break it up. Trying to make people go, "one, or both, of them are scum".

It's the second verse, but it's the same as the first.

This is zakk's signature play as scum. Instead of trying to form town cohesion, he has done everything in his power to break it apart, to doubtcast, to make us ignore basic reason in favor of irrational paranoia.

but like aren't you also seeding doubt in town

to me it looks like dwlee has thrown in his lot with the masons to try to ride that to victory, but is keeping his options open.

i will now look at nosferatu's stances on dwlee.

[zakk]

Spoiler: dwlee found titus buddying him

also ftr titus isnt really a master at reading me and the way she declared this is 100% town me felt like some buddying because she wanted me dead in mildly dangerous mafia and was incorrectly reading me from the moment she replaced in iirc.

YOU DIDN'T DO MUCH OF ANYTHING AT ALL

wait what

Backstory for college mafia: Titus was convinced guiltylion was 100% town and massive was their second choice for the remaining town but those two ended up being the remaining scum.
Sorry if this game off jerk-y titus >.<
pedit The quote wall is read progression on beeboy que no me gusta (that I dont like)

Explaining why I didnt like sircakez sheeping titus on me, explaining quote wall of read progression I didnt like from cakez.

came off*

also ftr titus isnt really a master at reading me and the way she declared this is 100% town me felt like some buddying because she wanted me dead in mildly dangerous mafia and was incorrectly reading me from the moment she replaced in iirc.

Expounding on that thinking titus might be buddying me

DW what is your read on me?

Youre

probably

town

what do you mean? Ive beem town reading you for almost if not all of today and the end of yesterday

Dwlee99

top of the list
lezgo

VOTE: a50
o shit waddup
here come beefboi

sheeping a50 case as I didnt like his slot anyway before hand

V/LA July 10th - July 17th due to a family vacation

UNVOTE: A50
The way I interpreted his role is that if he targets town the vig doesnt kill him, if he targets scum the vig does kill him.

VOTE: Dwlee

your
read
progression
makes
zero
sense

Calling you out on your shit

where do you get the third on a wagon is scum thing, almost?

Trying to understand almost

Cause they tried to buddy me.
But ranger is today Titus tomorrow

What do I do

I feel like waiting for Anti and sheeping him tbh.

Are you feeling Luna town or Luna scum?

I think Luna is town but my judgment might be clouded :I

Nah Luna's town you got this.
Let's wait for Anti unless you got reads or something you want to share.

I wanna lynch titus still. Felt like she was buddying me and her logic normally makes more sense than this.

I CAUGHT SOMEONE BUDDYING ME I AM SO PROUD
I figured it out cause titus said something to town read me that when I thought about it it didnt make sense

and look, he's supposedly super proud of himself

but then

Spoiler: he has NO CLUE i'm supposedly buddying him?

so antihero and nosferatu have to come in and make waves and show themselves to be town, because currently i could definitely see the scenario that they're both just skating and hoping town tears itself apart

^Case'n'point about zakk driving a wedge in the town.
He is, quite literally, casting suspicion everywhere except for at the player he is blatantly sucking up to, and needs in order to get the mislynches he wants.
Yesterday, that player was Luna Fox.
Today, it's Dwlee.

Am i getting buddied

why is that??

i'll tell you why. it's because it's not me buddying him

it's

him

buddying

me

[zakk]

I am completely ignoring her posts. You should too

>,.,>

*does face*

*refuses to take stance*

*waits for town to lynch town*

Spoiler: even though he thinks ranger is scum and wants to lynch her

VOTE: Ranger

Cause they tried to buddy me.
But ranger is today Titus tomorrow

No, Titus today.
Ranger maybe tomorrow.

Fire don't be like this

No, Titus today.
Ranger maybe tomorrow.

Fire don't be like this

I am very close to getting very angry. We are doing this. I am not compromising today.

Stop this now. This isn't the time to troll, because not everyone gets the reference you are making.

If people think I am a bulletproof tracker cop they deserve to lose there vote to me.

This is why I don't want to try in games.

No, I'M not compromising. Ranger lurks as scum. I have seen town them. This isn't it.

So your problem with me is that I make too little sense but I confuse people often? That makes sense. [/sarcasm]

What are your thoughts on Ranger?

This post itself confused me :I
If you were asking me, though, I think ranger is scum cause their play relates to scum!ranger but they did say they would be lurking. Cause of that I might consider pv over ranger.

This is a big pet peeve of mine like if youre gonna try to say ranger is scum when that is obviously not the case get their pronouns right.

@suzune
Ranger is town
Imma do some ~VCA~

Can we lynch ranger anyway

ranger, the setup requires more than just an oddnight pt tracker that has false positives imo

Wow it was bullshit
>.>
Didnt call that one at all
UNVOTE:
Okay so maybe ranger antihero?

Okay so maybe ranger antihero?

This doesn't even make sense

like how did you get there

I think youre town
Then there is ranger nosferatu and antihero and I think my best bet for town in there is nosferatu and I dont think scum anti claims an inno on his partner

Okay I have no idea who ranger's partner is atm it could be anyone but
VOTE: Ranger

can we lynch ranger

can we lynch ranger

If ranger or dunn flips town antihero is confirmed scum unless the masons are scum

Dunnstral, lynch ranger.

I think it is anti and ranger or dunn

If dunn is town anti is confirmed scum cause it cant be nosferatu and ranger

But here is my logic: If anti's role is in the game the odd night part, masons and a neighborhood weaken it a lot, a traitor is super unlikely. Because a traitor is super unlikely, if the scum team doesnt have dunnstral that means that either it is nosferstu and ranger, antihero and ranger, or antihero and nosferatu. Because of the fact there probably isnt a traitor in the game the scum team cannot be nosferatu and ranger, only anti and nos or anti and ranger

actually..
VOTE: antihero
antihero town flip clinches the game if masons are town
nosferatu becomes confirmed and it can only be dunn and ranger

VOTE: ranger
?

my bet is ranger anti so if we lose and I was right I can spam quote this

can we like not until ranger and antihero have responded to prods or been replaced

(11) Brian Hollywood -- SirCakez, Heat, Prophylaxis, beeboy, DrippingGoofball, Ranger,

Antihero, Nosferatu, Titus, Varsoon

, Almost50
2 flipped scum
6 flipped town
3 unknown
le sigh

Idk.. it is possible ?

I see it more likely that there is a gap somewhere there, like

Ranger, Antihero

,

Nosferatu

,

Titus, Varsoon

Weird. Why are they still alive

It's almost as if you're keeping players you're SCUMREADING alive so you don't have to CHANGE your scumreads or something.

Maybe just a little.

Ranger is trying to lynch one of the masons so hard that all other things have faded into the background

You keep saying this.
You keep on preaching this as if it's a point.
But I've made my stance on this

abundantly

clear.

I am willing to risk the game on Antihero being town.
My read there is not budging. Ever.
If I'm wrong, so be it. I lose. Don't care, he'd have earned it. He's town. Period, end of discussion.

I trust his result on Nosferatu to be accurate.
YOU keep saying, "But, there could be a weird godfather type role or something".
You keep saying that.
And yet, that's the slimiest, sketchiest thing in the entire game.

It is, quite literally, a dead repeat of what you did in Killer Instinct,

absolute deja vu

, of how you treated Toogeloo's innocent result-forwarded-to-Kuroi in that game. You couldn't win if they were both considered conftown. You, absolutely. could.

not

. win. If they were mutually townreading each other, and the town players (me among them!) also townread them. So you drove a wedge between them by planting that paranoia. You were the first to say it there. You were the first to suggest maybe one--or both--of them were scum. You pushed this around a bit, but you didn't really vote them.

And then, bingo. Like magic...the seeds sprouted. The paranoia of a STATISTICALLY IMPROBABLE SCENARIO grew in the town's mind. The paranoia of something

incredibly

unlikely came up. Others bought it, and others voted off of it, and using that opportunity, you quickhammered for the win, all because you did the one thing you needed to: break the town cohesion.

Same thing here.
You've planted the seed of doubt on Nosferatu. FIRST to do so. But others have begun to buy it. You can't win the game if both Antihero and Nosferatu are considered conftown. It's literally impossible. So what do you do? You try to make us doubt it. You try to make us think, "maybe Nosferatu is some weird role that'd be immune?". You try to make us ignore the clear. You try to divide the town, break the town, in half.

...Speaking of which, your continued pushing of a {Dunnstral, Ranger} team works similarly! Dunnstral is hard-townreading me. I am strongly townreading Dunnstral. I am also townreading Antihero and Nosferatu. Tying those together is something you, as scum,

absolutely cannot allow

. So there you are, trying to break it up. Trying to make people go, "one, or both, of them are scum".

It's the second verse, but it's the same as the first.

This is zakk's signature play as scum. Instead of trying to form town cohesion, he has done everything in his power to break it apart, to doubtcast, to make us ignore basic reason in favor of irrational paranoia.

but like aren't you also seeding doubt in town

[zakk]

im gonna be really disappointed if you're town

and i'm gonna be really disappointed if you're town too


care to address any of my points tho?

[zakk]

Spoiler: the entirety of nos's interactions with/mentions of dwlee

prove it~

who is this to?

you

There is this nice handy iso button you can use that will let you see all my posts.
God I actually feel like a terrible human being recently in mafia games I have been a total douchebag ugh

tbh I feel like I haven't been enough of an asshole lately

nosferatu do something ffs
VOTE: nosferatu

I have. I've let you know that both dunnstral and brian are both scum. PV could also possible scum.

nero stop being super awesome and mislynch nos.

that's kinda what I think you are really saying here.

Like the Nos wagon kinda popped up outta the blue and I don't understand why its a thing. The company is also gross. I'm a tad worried that maybe Nos is a bus but beyond that its horrible as there seems to be no basis.

It is a thing cause nos is doing absolutely nothing in the thread. And I like my company so

Are you kidding me?

So, the Nos wagon is literally disbanded

VOTE: PV

ofc it was disbanded, you were all sheeping dwlee and he moved on. Why you decided to sheep him or why he is/was scumreading me is a complete mystery to me.

I never said "same difference" o3o

in fact I DETEST when people say it

I'm a same difference guy :/

i want everyone's opinons on both dunnstral's and dwlee's reaction to me claiming a guilty on dunnstral.

uhh they're completely reasonable seeing as your guilty is bullshit because you're not investigative and antihero can't have made an action last night cause he's odd night.

it's either zakk and suzune or ranger and dwlee tbh

I'm thinking it cannot possibly be ranger because of his attitude. Clearly I would leave him alive as scum too if I thought he could waste the day rallying for the masons. Thoughts?

that's true, she's been lynch bait this game. She was also counterwagon to scum a few days ago. Dwlee and Dunn could be it, but I'm not feeling dwlee as scum.

VOTE: Nosferatu

lmao if you've accepted anti as town, I'm very likely town as well.

I'm willing to say Dwlee and Ranger instead of Dunn and Ranger but eck.

wait for them to be replaced ???

that would fucking suck.

[zakk]

that face is because you're telling me to completely ignore the person who has been bringing up really good points about why you're scum lol

ranger is clearly wrong about me, whether she's town or scum

telling people to ignore wrong people is part of what makes towns strong

i'm doing something to strengthen town




let me guess, you're starting to think i'm scum now that i've reversed my townread on you.

is that it dwlee?

[zakk]

it's either zakk and suzune or ranger and dwlee tbh

nos talk to me more about this post

what makes you think that?

[zakk]

dwlee do you think suzune is scum?

[zakk]

ranger has a bigger ISO that me wtf

that is definitely a thing

[zakk]

@everyone:

who do you think are the two scum pairs that makes the most sense, within:

antihero
nosferatu
dwlee
dunnstral
ranger

and why?

[zakk]

it's either zakk and suzune or ranger and dwlee tbh

nos talk to me more about this post

what makes you think that?

was coming around on dunn and process of elimination? Not much thought to explain in there.

so do you still think it's ranger and dwlee?

[zakk]

zakk it's like you're expecting me to have concrete opinions that never change or something

cool whatever answer 5334

[zakk]

This would've been a lot better if we didn't lynch all of my town reads.

@zakk: why should we not lynch a mason if you've already detailed why it leads to the best case scenario?

that was when i wasn't considering you or anti might be scum

and i realized not considering that was pretty stupid

[zakk]

is zakk and suzune an option

we're not scum, so no

[zakk]

let me guess, you're starting to think i'm scum now that i've reversed my townread on you.

is that it dwlee?

let me guess, you noticed your buddying of me isn't working so you've reversed your town read on me.

is that it zakk?

except it literally WAS working

and if i wanted to lynch dunnstral, WITH YOUR HELP, i wouldn't have unvoted

so yea no i'm mostly just thinking ranger is town and dunn has a loooot of shit that makes him town

and upon review of your slot again, i found a lot of shit i didn't see before, because i wasn't considering you

so if you want to live today, you'd damn well better explain all the shit i posted about you

[zakk]

scum is definitely in {dwlee, dunnstral, ranger} if the masons aren't scum.

I had a concrete scum read on dunn earlier but that kinda dissipated later on as the game continued. I had null reads on dwlee and ranger for most of the game which is why I was kinda drifting towards her wagon a few days ago to get her out of the way, but we didn't. So I'm switching between pretty frequently.

But even you said the best option for us is to lynch a mason, cause then antihero will get a clear if he lives,

or if he dies I'm confirmed.

And so is the last mason. The game will be EZ money with 2 confirmed town with no wifom. So why are you still opting for us to lynch someone else?

UNVOTE:

@bolds:

1. obv, from your pov
2. lol no, thats not how it works traitor boy

[zakk]

and today he is willing to vote dunnstral.

like you take this vote completely out of context
and there's no way you forgot that context

you made very veeery sure that you couldn't in any possible way be blamed if dunn flipped town

which makes me VERY sure you and dunn aren't scum together.

also, these posts.
495, 517, 527, 529, 530, 535, 537, 538, 554

it ain't dunn/dwlee, we can cross that off our lists, people.

[zakk]

This would've been a lot better if we didn't lynch all of my town reads.

@zakk: why should we not lynch a mason if you've already detailed why it leads to the best case scenario?

that was when i wasn't considering you or anti might be scum

and i realized not considering that was pretty stupid

what are the odds that anti fake claims a role that actually fits into the setup and then proceeds to try to lynch a tracker who he knows is town, get another guilty on his scumbuddy securing a lynch, and then proceed to claim an inno on the last one.

pretty fucking low

have you noticed how i've barely suspected anti at all?

now you on the other hand...

btw in case it was lost in my big post about alignments and who i wanna lynch



we should be looking for traitor interactions.

a traitor is someone who would provide a false negative for a PT-detector cop, and that'd be something that could have been added on TOP of a neighborizer, and masons.

who else thinks this could be a likelihood?

yes. I've been thinking there's a traitor for a bit now.

you're ignoring the fact that i could think you're a traitor, even though you agreed with me that there might be one earlier.

explain.

[zakk]

let me guess, you're starting to think i'm scum now that i've reversed my townread on you.

is that it dwlee?

let me guess, you noticed your buddying of me isn't working so you've reversed your town read on me.

is that it zakk?

except it literally WAS working

and if i wanted to lynch dunnstral, WITH YOUR HELP, i wouldn't have unvoted

so yea no i'm mostly just thinking ranger is town and dunn has a loooot of shit that makes him town

and upon review of your slot again, i found a lot of shit i didn't see before, because i wasn't considering you

so if you want to live today, you'd damn well better explain all the shit i posted about you

no it wasn't..
And if you are talking about when you claimed the guilty you would have to unvote because I made sure that if it was a fake guilty we would be lynching you.
I already explained it. You're just cherrypicking things out of context and twisting it to make me scummy >_>

okay cool i retract that ONE thing then

so now you can't use it as a straw man to say the entirety of my recent posts about you are twisting things

explain the rest pls.


ready set go

[zakk]

Zakk from your point of view you should probably be wanting Ranger right now though

why?

tbh i have gone back and forth on all of you guys so much i dont even know, so i'm just throwing shit around and seeing where it sticks, and trying to make people see things every way possible, and at the end of the day if i'm lynched so be it, but i'm not gonna just let ppl slide by and nobody gets a pass, even antihero. even though he's pretty much conftown at this point.

[zakk]

@Ranger I am willing to lynch Dwlee today

@zakk I am willing to lynch dwlee today

who's dwlee's buddy?

[zakk]

yup. that's what scum do sometimes.
and that is VERY BRAZENLY, ADMITTEDLY what i've been doing all day.

(it's also the exact opposite of what ranger says i'm doing, which is killing people who aren't my "scumreads" so that i can have people to suspect today. lol)


anyway, because shit isn't sticking where i thought it would:

i'm expanding my horizons to include people i thought were town.

i.e. you, dwlee.

[zakk]

yeah i don't give a fuck.




aaaand, so you're individually town reading nosferatu.

cool whatever answer 5334

[zakk]

@Ranger I am willing to lynch Dwlee today

@zakk I am willing to lynch dwlee today

who's dwlee's buddy?

Ranger

show your work

i thought you thought ranger was town.

[zakk]

@Ranger I am willing to lynch Dwlee today

@zakk I am willing to lynch dwlee today

who's dwlee's buddy?

Ranger

show your work

i thought you thought ranger was town.

and why are you telling ranger you are willing to lynch dwlee, if that's his supposed scumbuddy

[zakk]

dunn you haven't once voted ranger in the entire game.

[zakk]

Zakk from your point of view you should probably be wanting Ranger right now though

why?

tbh i have gone back and forth on all of you guys so much i dont even know, so i'm just throwing shit around and seeing where it sticks, and trying to make people see things every way possible, and at the end of the day if i'm lynched so be it, but i'm not gonna just let ppl slide by and nobody gets a pass, even antihero. even though he's pretty much conftown at this point.

Because by your own logic, you don't think a scum team of dunnstral, dwlee is possible

That leaves Ranger as the one that's always scum if you believe the scum are in that 3

no you can't use my logic

you have to use YOURS

[zakk]

you can't base your opinions on what i believe

laughing my fucking ass off

[zakk]

@Ranger I am willing to lynch Dwlee today

@zakk I am willing to lynch dwlee today

who's dwlee's buddy?

Ranger

show your work

i thought you thought ranger was town.

and why are you telling ranger you are willing to lynch dwlee, if that's his supposed scumbuddy

Because if Ranger is town she should be fine lynching Dwlee.

Antihero will almost certainly be the night kill, and She and I would be like confirmed town to each other (meaning the masons are scum)

we're not scum

try again.

that solution is not true.

[zakk]

dunn you haven't once voted ranger in the entire game.

And?

Seriously go back and read my posts from last night

which ones?

make them all nice and pretty in a spoiler for me, and bold the parts that show you suspect ranger.

[zakk]

you can't base your opinions on what i believe

laughing my fucking ass off

Do you want to get policy lynched?

Reread that entire interaction

i will never be policy lynched.

all non-suzune three townies in this game recognize the effort i've been putting in

and if i'm lynched, that's them throwing in the towel.

and that's despicable (which is why i didn't do it)

[zakk]

okay dunn that's very fair

i was kinda ignoring all posts made with dwlee being half of the scum team because i was under the impression he was town at the time

tbh if you're scum this game, YOU deserve a scummy.

i'm willing to call you town now.

or at least off the lynch list.

[zakk]

also still waiting on peeps:

@everyone:

who do you think are the two scum pairs that makes the most sense, within:

antihero
nosferatu
dwlee
dunnstral
ranger

and why?

scum possibilities / pairs

Spoiler: zakk (Dwlee/Ranger/Nos)

dwlee-nos (explained in recent posts)
ranger-nos (explained this all game)

(also, dunnstral might be convincing me of dwlee/ranger)

Spoiler: nosferatu (Dwlee/Dunnstral/Ranger)

scum is definitely in {dwlee, dunnstral, ranger}

Spoiler: Dunnstral (Ranger/Dwlee team)

iso dunnstral from
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 4#p8211794
to
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 2#p8211902

cross off the list:

• zakk doesn't think it's Dunn/Dwlee

[zakk]

Also, you did your best to make ABSOLUTELY SURE I wasn't bullshitting with a gambit, or could just be wrong, when I did the dunnstral guilty. That factors in a bit too, because although you could have been setting me up to take the fall if you were scum and knew dunnstral was town, the likelihood was still low based on 2/3 of you being scum, and also, frankly, no offense, I don't think you have the skill as scum to pull off reactions like that, which look that real. You just feel... Town. So gj, either way.

oh but now it doesn't fit zakk's narrative so now I'm scum for it

do you suddenly think i'm scum again?

yes or no

and today he is willing to vote dunnstral.

like you take this vote completely out of context
and there's no way you forgot that context

you made very veeery sure that you couldn't in any possible way be blamed if dunn flipped town

which makes me VERY sure you and dunn aren't scum together.

also, these posts.
495, 517, 527, 529, 530, 535, 537, 538, 554

it ain't dunn/dwlee, we can cross that off our lists, people.

do you think 495, 517, 527, 529, 530, 535, 537, 538, 554 imply that you and dunnstral could be on the same scum team?

or do you think it implies that you're not?

[zakk]

@zakk do you have any traitor interactions between me and any flipped scum to justify suddenly scum reading me? Cause unless you do it's kinda dumb to insist that I'm not conf town upon anti's town flip

just trying to consider all possibilities here

also, suzune brought up to me in private that you and anti like never talked to each other ... i didn't double check. will do that now.

[zakk]

entirety of antihero talking to or about nos:

(i don't even need to spoiler it)

i see luna couldnt keep the nos inno in her pants

i'm odd-night pt checker. flavor is chun-li

n1 check was beeboy, n3 was varsoon, n5 was nos

for nos

i frankly do not think a traitor is likely.

the ONLY situation where nos as a traitor makes sense is if he's the only scum left b/c there's not NEAR enough town power to justify 4 groupscum + a traitor and fucking my role that much more

tracker
day vig
double doc
glorified commuter

the investigative potential of this town is already anemic and i know the mod site meta is to make hilariously scumsided setups but thats just ridiculous

Why is nos out of the picture?

i JUST made a post on this

like...

i will never pretend i have anything other than mediocre-at-best reads
but i can setup spec with near perfect accuracy

i've just reviewed/designed/played enough games to where i've gotten good at it.

i think the chances of nos being some huehuehue gives godfather like results type role are p much nil

if you want to lynch nos (or me) as part of a break-an-egg-to-get-a-town-win-omlet sort of deal, then that's that but dont fool yourself into thinking youre going to net a scumflip from it

[zakk]

Spoiler: and here's nosferatu's mentions about anti

Anti wtf have you done

these are all completed games dw mod

Note: I like you as a player, regardless of your alignment in this or any given game we may play together in in the future. It's just that my mind keeps telling me you didn't just throw that suggestion w/o careful thought, and you're not a bad player not to have thought of the "other side" of it, so it looks to me like you were trying to sneak in bad logic on purpose there.

Except anti being in the hood was a suggestion of a flipped scum.

because scum had a spy.

Note: I like you as a player, regardless of your alignment in this or any given game we may play together in in the future. It's just that my mind keeps telling me you didn't just throw that suggestion w/o careful thought, and you're not a bad player not to have thought of the "other side" of it, so it looks to me like you were trying to sneak in bad logic on purpose there.

Except anti being in the hood was a suggestion of a flipped scum.

because scum had a spy.

Walk me through your reasoning here: Why does scum having a spy make them want antihero in the neighborhood?

they can see who he's going to investigate if he says so beforehand. That way they know when they can go ahead and nightkill them.

i want everyone's opinons on both dunnstral's and dwlee's reaction to me claiming a guilty on dunnstral.

uhh they're completely reasonable seeing as your guilty is bullshit because you're not investigative and antihero can't have made an action last night cause he's odd night.

anti literally has not been wrong in a single claim and his role is to balance the spy, he is pretty conf town.

I feel like maybe it's possible there's a scum traitor and that would counter anti's PT check but then the masons would probably not be scum then :/

What are your thoughts on antihero?

You don't care about his potential fake claim?

I believe it's true because it makes sense with the roles that have flipped so far.

VOTE: Nosferatu

lmao if you've accepted anti as town, I'm very likely town as well.

I'm willing to say Dwlee and Ranger instead of Dunn and Ranger but eck.

VOTE: nosferatu

If ranger is town it's also convenient for mafia to be trying to get a mason killed today

the reason for me wanting to not lynch a mason is because scum will kill antihero if we don't, because it gives them the highest probability of winning.

btw in case it was lost in my big post about alignments and who i wanna lynch



we should be looking for traitor interactions.

a traitor is someone who would provide a false negative for a PT-detector cop, and that'd be something that could have been added on TOP of a neighborizer, and masons.

who else thinks this could be a likelihood?

yes. I've been thinking there's a traitor for a bit now.

Do you think we should be worried that you are a traitor?

no since I'm town, but it'd be weird if it didn't cross your mind.

scum is definitely in {dwlee, dunnstral, ranger} if the masons aren't scum. I had a concrete scum read on dunn earlier but that kinda dissipated later on as the game continued. I had null reads on dwlee and ranger for most of the game which is why I was kinda drifting towards her wagon a few days ago to get her out of the way, but we didn't. So I'm switching between pretty frequently.

But even you said the best option for us is to lynch a mason, cause then antihero will get a clear if he lives, or if he dies I'm confirmed. And so is the last mason. The game will be EZ money with 2 confirmed town with no wifom. So why are you still opting for us to lynch someone else?

UNVOTE:

This would've been a lot better if we didn't lynch all of my town reads.

@zakk: why should we not lynch a mason if you've already detailed why it leads to the best case scenario?

that was when i wasn't considering you or anti might be scum

and i realized not considering that was pretty stupid

what are the odds that anti fake claims a role that actually fits into the setup and then proceeds to try to lynch a tracker who he knows is town, get another guilty on his scumbuddy securing a lynch, and then proceed to claim an inno on the last one.

@zakk do you have any traitor interactions between me and any flipped scum to justify suddenly scum reading me? Cause unless you do it's kinda dumb to insist that I'm not conf town upon anti's town flip

[zakk]

do you think 495, 517, 527, 529, 530, 535, 537, 538, 554 imply that you and dunnstral could be on the same scum team?

or do you think it implies that you're not?

yes, I do.
And I think it implies we're not both scum cause, yknow, I'm town.

cool whatever

i don't give a fuck

so then

again

answer 5334 or i swear i will push this lynch through on you right now

[zakk]

also, suzune brought up to me in private that you and anti like never talked to each other ... i didn't double check. will do that now.

yeah I don't think we did.

why didn't/haven't you?


as "townies", shouldn't you be trying to figure the game out together?

[zakk]

dunn i'm kinda thinking dwlee/nos not dwlee/ranger

comments pls.

[zakk]

the yes I do is to earlier in the post where zakk asks if I think he is scum

5334

[zakk]

@zakk do you have any traitor interactions between me and any flipped scum to justify suddenly scum reading me? Cause unless you do it's kinda dumb to insist that I'm not conf town upon anti's town flip

what would those even look like, in your opinion?

and why do i have to justify PoE?

dwlee's interactions with you are pretty conclusive.

i'm not trying to link you to dead scum (which, as a traitor, you would spend the entire game trying to make sure wouldn't happen)
i'm trying to link you to LIVING scum (which, as a traitor, you would also spend the entire game, etc. but i want to see what happens)

and no it's not dumb to insist someone who is not conftown is not conftown

fuckin kidding me?

[zakk]

the yes I do is to earlier in the post where zakk asks if I think he is scum

5334

10021999

are you going to answer my question or aren't you?

this is your chance to put up a fight if you're town

this is your chance to go down like a lead zeppelin just like in mass effect, if you're scum

your choice