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Post Post #10073 (isolation #400) » Sun Mar 12, 2017 3:26 pm

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You're just capitalizing the n on purpose aren't you :P
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Post Post #10076 (isolation #401) » Sun Mar 12, 2017 3:35 pm

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In post 10075, Alisae wrote:oh yeah nANCY saying she WIFOM'd her reads is complete bullshit.
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Post Post #10078 (isolation #402) » Sun Mar 12, 2017 3:38 pm

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There's literally zero chance of me getting lynched without every single scum being on the wagon?
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Post Post #10081 (isolation #403) » Sun Mar 12, 2017 3:43 pm

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In post 10072, Nero Cain wrote:Math can be pretty horrible as town and I don't really think its outside the realms of impossibility that this is just bad town Math but them getting a wonder that requires they be vigged but not wanting to be vigged on n2 seems like a pretty huge dissonance. I'm also concerned with how much shade they've been throwing at the Nancy slot but never ever having reason to vote them. And Nancy hasn't even commented on it so I fee like it makes sense as scum buddy play.

I could maybe kinda see Gin/Gork coming to Maths defense for town cred. Would also make plenty of sense as buddy play.

I've played with LUV before and he's pretty useless as town. He's being useless but I don't really think its town. Like his hole "I'm going to be shit with my vote and punish town" is something that I have a hard time seeing coming from town. I think there's plenty of potential scum motivation in him not wanting to push anywhere or do anything.

davesaz I still think is scum for the reasons I outlined yesterday the fact that Sondam was a counter to his wagon is also telling. Also his "I'll start being useful if I don't get lynched and if I get a good result" seem like scum
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I have a preconceived notion town should be open and forth coming with their reads but I've played enough games to know that there are some players that really really anti-town playstyles. Enter Nancy who wants you to believe that she has been WIFOMing her reads and I just don't really know if I buy that.

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Your reads are 100% waffle and you just voted me because my play is "anti-town". You are terrible.
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Post Post #10085 (isolation #404) » Sun Mar 12, 2017 3:46 pm

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In post 10075, Alisae wrote:oh yeah nANCY saying she WIFOM'd her reads is complete bullshit.
You've seen me WIFOM the fuck out of my reads as Town, your excuses are transparently bullshit.

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Post Post #10087 (isolation #405) » Sun Mar 12, 2017 3:48 pm

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It's a parrot. Symbolism. :cool:
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Post Post #10096 (isolation #406) » Sun Mar 12, 2017 3:52 pm

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In post 10089, Alisae wrote:
In post 10085, nancy wrote:
In post 10075, Alisae wrote:oh yeah nANCY saying she WIFOM'd her reads is complete bullshit.
You've seen me WIFOM the fuck out of my reads as Town, your excuses are transparently bullshit.

pedit I'll treat my TRs exactly how the fuck I want to.
Bruh you cannot say meta is not reliable then say this shit.
Legalism does not make your stance any less vacuous.
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Post Post #10101 (isolation #407) » Sun Mar 12, 2017 3:53 pm

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In post 10094, Alisae wrote:and even if suddenly meta became reliable to you, you dismissing your reads yesterday as "Oh I was just WIFOMing my reads" is pretty conveniant and just seems like you're trying to wash your hands off of yesterday and pretend it never happened.
You're prodding at the wrong issues here. Making much ado over technicalities doesn't strengthen your argument, especially when those technicalities are the result of twisted logic.
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Post Post #10103 (isolation #408) » Sun Mar 12, 2017 3:55 pm

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In post 10102, Nero Cain wrote:Also Nancy is bussing you.
Help me, Nero. You're my only hope.
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Post Post #10106 (isolation #409) » Sun Mar 12, 2017 3:58 pm

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10105 admitting he has rolled scum.

Cha-ching, let's go bois pile on the votes.
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Post Post #10137 (isolation #410) » Sun Mar 12, 2017 4:17 pm

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In post 10113, Brian Skies wrote:
In post 10010, nancy wrote:There's literally no way that Aslan isn't scum here. All his behavior with scumslots aside his play yesterday and today is just scum overload.
What happened to your super secret towntell on Ali?
The amount of scumfuckery coming from the slot has just gotten too much after a certain point to ignore it all based on a meta tell.

In post 10120, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 10118, Nero Cain wrote:lol @ LUV getting all bent out of shape over being called useless.
lol because it's bull, if you wanted to lynch me off the Sondam hammer which is still bad but a much better reasoning fine
It's actually a very good reason considering that was a blatant scumhammer.

In post 10105, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:LOL why you lying Nero

And no nancy would not play like this if we rolled scum
"if we rolled scum" (together) = one of us is scum = LUV is scum.

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Post Post #10143 (isolation #411) » Sun Mar 12, 2017 4:20 pm

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In post 10139, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Not that good of a reason really considering the context nancy.
No hesitation. No questioning whether Sondam might be frustrated Town giving up. No questioning the makeup of the wagon. Just a naked hammer. Scum.
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Post Post #10147 (isolation #412) » Sun Mar 12, 2017 4:21 pm

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It takes all of one minute to stop and say what the fuck are you doing Sondam, claim please.
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Post Post #10151 (isolation #413) » Sun Mar 12, 2017 4:25 pm

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Bend over backwards any further and you'll be touching the butt.

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Post Post #10152 (isolation #414) » Sun Mar 12, 2017 4:26 pm

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Vecna Vecna Vecna

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Post Post #10167 (isolation #415) » Sun Mar 12, 2017 4:46 pm

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In post 10157, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:I'm explaining to nancy why we wouldn't have had time to go through them claiming and everyone weighing in.
Fake posturing, you hesitating and wanting to hear a claim for yourself before putting your vote there has nothing to do with anyone else except you. You not waiting to question your read before ending the day. You had no read. You knew he was Town. Keep squirming, scum.
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Post Post #10195 (isolation #416) » Sun Mar 12, 2017 7:24 pm

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Post Post #10199 (isolation #417) » Sun Mar 12, 2017 7:28 pm

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You're scum. You can all bus LUV tomorrow. You die first.
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Post Post #10203 (isolation #418) » Sun Mar 12, 2017 7:32 pm

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I won't be appeased.
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Post Post #10210 (isolation #419) » Sun Mar 12, 2017 7:38 pm

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Please, continue scumclaiming. Colors are pretty, I tried a lot of variations and I like the one where you're red best.
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Post Post #10225 (isolation #420) » Sun Mar 12, 2017 11:15 pm

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Holy shit walls.
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Post Post #10230 (isolation #421) » Sun Mar 12, 2017 11:30 pm

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In post 10221, Vecna wrote:At least you noticed this too. So youre very honed in on the fishy-ness going on here. Might also mean you are actually scum with Notice though. The flip from Nancy could make some sense if she simply agrees with my assesment of whats going on here. Hmmmm
What is your assessment of what is going on here? There's nothing fishy, I was WIFOMing the fuck out of Notice and watching how they responded. It's called scumhunting.

In post 10222, Vecna wrote:
In post 9976, nancy wrote:VOTE: LUV

Scum please bus.

If I'm scum I'm bussing atm, please help me.
Oh look at this. The slot is flipping around me/Alisae/Notice VERY HARD. Yet what does it vote? LUV? The fuck?

How can you have this much of a read flipping around going on, AND NOT wanting to lynch to sort it out for yourself?
I'm scumreading LUV..?
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Post Post #10231 (isolation #422) » Sun Mar 12, 2017 11:33 pm

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Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.........................
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Post Post #10232 (isolation #423) » Sun Mar 12, 2017 11:41 pm

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Was that just the moment where I thought that I knew what was going on in this game but then realized that I actually don't

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Post Post #10237 (isolation #424) » Mon Mar 13, 2017 1:10 am

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In post 10233, Maxous wrote:At least that clears my small doubts about Vecna.
What doubts does it clear?
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Post Post #10238 (isolation #425) » Mon Mar 13, 2017 1:11 am

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In post 10236, Vecna wrote:So this flip-flopping around your vote on me, was just a reaction test as well? And you do this provably in all your games?
Yes no. I'm moving away from heavy WIFOM in my play actually, it was mostly an experiment.
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Post Post #10246 (isolation #426) » Mon Mar 13, 2017 2:35 am

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In post 10240, Vecna wrote:How about you post a list of your -actual- reads without wifom?

And then tell me which of your posts containing reads, IN THE PAST, were real reads.

I want to be able to follow your real progression of reads. Testing people and pushing for a reaction is fine. Being completely unaccountable for everything you say, or every read you got is not.
I posted my start of day readslist at the start of the day. About to sleep so I'll the 2nd part when I wake up.

In post 10241, Maxous wrote:
In post 10237, nancy wrote:
In post 10233, Maxous wrote:At least that clears my small doubts about Vecna.
What doubts does it clear?
That he wasn't town?
Elaborate? Why, thought processes, etc.?
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Post Post #10310 (isolation #427) » Mon Mar 13, 2017 12:26 pm

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Cloud what the fuck are your reads I am losing my mind in this game and you're now my only locktown.
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I wish Transcend were in this game. He refused to replace in because of ~pages~.
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Post Post #10312 (isolation #429) » Mon Mar 13, 2017 12:28 pm

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He was probably replacing a scumslot anyway tho so w/e.
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Post Post #10331 (isolation #431) » Mon Mar 13, 2017 7:17 pm

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In post 10320, CloudKicker wrote:
In post 10310, nancy wrote:Cloud what the fuck are your reads I am losing my mind in this game and you're now my only locktown.
im looking at leon/gin/luv
people that im still trying to sort are max/pine and in a lesser extent alibae
my towns are vec, nero and you. Math is a townlean but if im wrong on a townread its prob this one

anything else is null, yuri is town for d1
I'm disturbed by the amount of people who have completely ignored Vecna's claim.

My lockscums are MathBlade and Notice. I'm still SRing Leonshade and LUV. Aslan is like a strong scumlean. My reads on LUV and Aslan are tied together a little, i.e., if one is scum they're both scum. LUV and Math's interactions have seemed vaguely SvS.

Notice and Math have both done things that are like wildly out of character for them, and some subtler things are missing too.
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Post Post #10337 (isolation #432) » Mon Mar 13, 2017 8:28 pm

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In post 10333, CloudKicker wrote:About the claims, i think taking that wonder is unecessary as to block that wonder to scum, i also think that vec is town moreso that i dont see the scumgain in that claim
Except that Town has no reason whatsoever to out themselves, whereas scum have every reason to do so.
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Post Post #10351 (isolation #433) » Tue Mar 14, 2017 12:03 am

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They're not fake reads T_T

I give up. I'm going to sheep Caesar.

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Post Post #10352 (isolation #434) » Tue Mar 14, 2017 12:05 am

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I am possibly wrong about Notice being scum and if so then I am also wrong about Math being scum. I am filled with self-doubt. I will place my trust in Caesar to lead me out of this dark cavern of treacherousness.
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I wish people would actually talk about Vecna's claim instead of just pretending it didn't even happen because I have nfc how to read it.
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Post Post #10358 (isolation #436) » Tue Mar 14, 2017 1:43 am

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In post 10355, Vecna wrote:
In post 10353, nancy wrote:I wish people would actually talk about Vecna's claim instead of just pretending it didn't even happen because I have nfc how to read it.
Everyone realized its obvious im town. Get with the program. Also why sheep Ceasar? Someone you were scumreading before and trying to wagon less than one game-day ago?
You constantly saying "I'm obvtown" and shit like that just makes me really fucking paranoid about your slot. Your claim is weird and I don't know how to read it. Either you're bad!town, you're scum, or there's something I'm not seeing in the claim. I've already explained why I pushed on Caesar. I've already listed my reads.
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Hmm ok you have restored my confidence. Yay.
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Thank for you explaining.
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Post Post #10363 (isolation #439) » Tue Mar 14, 2017 3:16 am

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VOTE: Gorkington
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Post Post #10367 (isolation #440) » Tue Mar 14, 2017 3:22 am

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Nvm I forgot about LUV.

VOTE: LUV

pedit I'm scumreading Leonshade and Gorkington slot was a scumlean so probably SvS. LUV is a better vote than both.
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Post Post #10375 (isolation #441) » Tue Mar 14, 2017 3:40 am

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In post 10240, Vecna wrote:How about you post a list of your -actual- reads without wifom?

And then tell me which of your posts containing reads, IN THE PAST, were real reads.

I want to be able to follow your real progression of reads. Testing people and pushing for a reaction is fine. Being completely unaccountable for everything you say, or every read you got is not. We already have one such person in this game (ceasar) and that annoyance is more than enough.
Fortunately I have my PT to keep a track of this without stumbling through my ISO.

First:
Aslan

Nero Cain

Yuri

MathBlade

Leonshade

Elbirn

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Brian Skies

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NoticeMeSenpai
(I actually wasn't TRing Notice of my own volition, Aslan just told me to sheep their read and I did.)

Somewhere in the middle:
Aslan

Nero Cain

Yuri

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Leonshade

Elbirn

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Brian Skies

Caesar Wills It

Lil Uzi Vert

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{Brian, Caesar, CK, PV, Vecna}
{davesaz, Maxous, Nero}
{Creature, KidAmn}
{Aslan, Math, Notice, Gorkington}
{Leonshade, LUV}

But they're currently fluctuating a little, I need time to re-establish and get a better feel for the gamestate. Rereading is in order (lol).
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Post Post #10580 (isolation #442) » Wed Mar 15, 2017 2:27 am

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HOLY FUCK GORK IS CLEARLY A MISLYNCH
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Post Post #10581 (isolation #443) » Wed Mar 15, 2017 2:27 am

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EVERYONE STOP FUCKING VOTING THINGS
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Post Post #10582 (isolation #444) » Wed Mar 15, 2017 2:29 am

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In post 10383, Brian Skies wrote:
In post 10380, CloudKicker wrote:"the Caesar wagon on the previous day bothered the shit out of me"

@brian why an how did it bothered you
Unlike the other wagons, the Caesar wagon rose pretty rapidly, but with you, Math, and Yuri all citing nancy as the reason for their vote. It just didn't feel right to me, and you still haven't explained why you were so fine with voting their despite claiming previously that the gamestate indicated Caesar was probably town.
Caesar wagon was never anything but a pressure wagon. It rose quickly because people sheeped me.
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Post Post #10584 (isolation #445) » Wed Mar 15, 2017 2:38 am

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oh Creature outed his RB
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Post Post #10585 (isolation #446) » Wed Mar 15, 2017 2:43 am

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In post 10548, Nero Cain wrote:I could maybe see a Luv/Math/Nancy/Gork/Senpai team.
I've literally been trying to kill all of these people at some point in the game. You are off your rocker.
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Post Post #10586 (isolation #447) » Wed Mar 15, 2017 2:44 am

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In post 10583, Leonshade wrote:
In post 10580, nancy wrote:HOLY FUCK GORK IS CLEARLY A MISLYNCH
How so?
~reasons~
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Post Post #10587 (isolation #448) » Wed Mar 15, 2017 2:44 am

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In post 10550, Alisae wrote:BaeReed and nancy are not the same alignment please try again Nero.
ARE YOU OUTING A FUCKING RESULT
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Post Post #10589 (isolation #449) » Wed Mar 15, 2017 2:59 am

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Wasn't asking you to sheep me.

Ali is being coy, don't garcia
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Post Post #10591 (isolation #450) » Wed Mar 15, 2017 3:51 am

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Like I said, he's just being coy. He's been rolefishing all day.
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Post Post #10611 (isolation #451) » Wed Mar 15, 2017 4:33 am

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In post 10598, Alisae wrote:
In post 10595, Leonshade wrote:Would like to see this supposed rolefishing by Ali, def don't interpret that post you quoted as that.

I've got time tp phonepost for an hour if you want to bring sonething to my attentipn.
This is a daily reminder that this is scum trying to find a way to wiggle out of their TR on me.
I think you are less the center of attention than you may believe. :P
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Post Post #10612 (isolation #452) » Wed Mar 15, 2017 4:33 am

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In post 10601, CloudKicker wrote:i sheeped my read i had on nancy's vc regarding yuri, i doubt im wrong but i wouldnt be surprised
Haven't seen it fail yet, but I wouldn't be surprised either tbh.
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Post Post #10618 (isolation #453) » Wed Mar 15, 2017 4:48 am

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@Leonshade he just keeps saying stuff about me and Notice not being the same alignment.
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Post Post #10620 (isolation #454) » Wed Mar 15, 2017 6:06 am

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Oh yeah I forgot to mention I went back over Math's ISO and found something I'd missed earlier so that was good I can probably refresh my reads but right now I'm so fking tired about to die barely awake just listening to gf singing rip
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Post Post #10631 (isolation #455) » Wed Mar 15, 2017 2:48 pm

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In post 10625, MathBlade wrote:
In post 10620, nancy wrote:Oh yeah I forgot to mention I went back over Math's ISO and found something I'd missed earlier so that was good I can probably refresh my reads but right now I'm so fking tired about to die barely awake just listening to gf singing rip
What did you find? And what changed your mind? Reasons are like candy :)
There was some crucial stuff you weren't doing or so I thought but then I realized you were doing it I just hadn't seen it, not going to specify obviously :P

You're not locktown or anything and I'm still only here in thread on a superficial level, i.e., not actually gamesolving right now, because I'm just too busy, but you're probably Town.

I still don't get why you dropped your tunnel on Nero and went from saying LUV is probtown to saying he's confscum though.
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Post Post #10633 (isolation #456) » Wed Mar 15, 2017 5:22 pm

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Post Post #10635 (isolation #457) » Wed Mar 15, 2017 7:57 pm

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I get what you're saying
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Post Post #10637 (isolation #458) » Wed Mar 15, 2017 8:15 pm

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I expect far more of myself than what I'm doing here. If I wasn't so time poor I'd be able to straighten out my reads and grok the PoE on this but I am and it's frustrating.
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Post Post #10638 (isolation #459) » Wed Mar 15, 2017 8:17 pm

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That Sondam lynch yesterday was pure scumfuckery btw and may have cost Town the game unless we play perfectly from here on out. Sonam was obvtown and his lynch gained nothing by way of information.
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Post Post #10730 (isolation #460) » Thu Mar 16, 2017 11:57 am

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WHY THE FUCK ARE PEOPLE LYNCHING GORKINGTON

HE IS TOWN

HOLY FUCK THIS TOWN IS FUCKING HORRIBLE
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Post Post #10731 (isolation #461) » Thu Mar 16, 2017 11:58 am

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LUV FUCKING QUICKHAMMERED SONDAM WHY THE FUCK ARE PEOPLE NOT PILING ONTO THE SLOT

THIS TOWN DESERVES TO FUCKING LOSE TO A PERFECT VICTORY

HOLY FUCKING GOD I CAN'T BELIEVE I'M EVEN IN THIS GAME
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Post Post #10732 (isolation #462) » Thu Mar 16, 2017 11:59 am

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CLOUDKICKER FUCKING UNVOTE MOTHER OF GOD IF YOU ARE TOWN
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Post Post #10733 (isolation #463) » Thu Mar 16, 2017 12:00 pm

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YOU ARE FUCKING KIDDING YOURSELF IF YOU THINK THIS IS GOING TO FLIP RED
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Post Post #10734 (isolation #464) » Thu Mar 16, 2017 12:00 pm

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THERE ARE NINE FUCKING DAYS LEFT TO DEADLINE

JESUS FUCKING CHRIST GUYS
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Post Post #10735 (isolation #465) » Thu Mar 16, 2017 12:01 pm

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FUCKING SICK OF QUICKLYNCHES

TOWN META ON THIS SITE FUCKING SUCKS
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Post Post #10736 (isolation #466) » Thu Mar 16, 2017 12:13 pm

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Fuck this I'm fixing my reads right now I'm not going to let Town continually shoot itself in its foot.
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Post Post #10738 (isolation #467) » Thu Mar 16, 2017 12:28 pm

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Vote LUV.
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Post Post #10739 (isolation #468) » Thu Mar 16, 2017 12:28 pm

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Those are my thoughts.
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Post Post #10740 (isolation #469) » Thu Mar 16, 2017 12:29 pm

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This wagon on Gork is a fucking joke and anyone who actually believes this is a scum lynch should re-learn how to play mafia. Scum are not going to just randomly bus today when their kill got docced yesterday.
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Post Post #10741 (isolation #470) » Thu Mar 16, 2017 12:30 pm

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Aslan, Maxous, KidAmn, and Math are my TRs so far.

LUV and Leonshade are scum.
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Post Post #10742 (isolation #471) » Thu Mar 16, 2017 12:33 pm

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Why the fuck did you push that Sondam lynch Caesar?
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Give me one reason Caesar why scum would bus Gorkington like this.
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Nvm I don't TR KidAmn.
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CK and davesaz might both be scum.
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Post Post #10747 (isolation #475) » Thu Mar 16, 2017 1:07 pm

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Btw Gorkington your post and vote are both opportunistic and survivalistic which are not traits of a good Townie. I am going to fight as hard as I can to get this lynch off you with 9 days left in this phase but don't do stupid shit please.
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Post Post #10751 (isolation #476) » Thu Mar 16, 2017 1:15 pm

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We absolutely need to lynch LUV today because not only is the slot very likely to be scum it's the linchpin of my reads and the first step to properly solving this game.
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Post Post #10753 (isolation #477) » Thu Mar 16, 2017 1:15 pm

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In post 10748, Gorkington wrote:
In post 10369, MathBlade wrote:VOTE: Gorkington

nancy is giving me the heebie jeebies. No time to explain but Gork is also scum so....
my read on mathblade is pretty linked with my leonshade read.

i think the way his focus on me developed was potentially very opportunistic in terms of the timing of my focus going towards leonshade and the subsequent hardpush on me being scum, as well as the hesitance to actually commit to pushing there until the leonshade wagon was actually kind of failing.

i think one of the things i feel worst about with so many of these people who have called me scum is that SO SO SO many of them claimed i was obviously scum throughout my early play, but instead decided to focus elsewhere, especially while leonshade wagon was happening.

like, i just cant help but feel like some of it must have been opportunism.

i especially feel bad about math/leon pushes together because they use very very similar reasoning.
in a way that almost makes me feel like there was discussion on how to frame pushing me.

beyond that, i dont really see incredibly convincing reasoning for why leonshade has mathblade in his toptier and mathblade is constantly defending leonshade and calling him obvtown but doesnt seem to supply reasons while doing so while leonshade wagon is happening?
it just seems weird to me that he wouldnt try to convince people by saying actual reasons that he was scum vs just saying over and over again that hes town and trying to push nero who was clearly not going to happen? im just not sure if i see how that intention works.

with math theres also this really strange justification for scumreading me of "PV is scum and PV/Gork are scumbuddies"
and i just dont really get it?
like.
that was one of the first things that stood out to me this game.
that PV has like.. 200+ posts, ive only ever seen PVscum lurk and math is calling him scum?
ive asked for reasoning on this and i never got it.
and theres a lame part of me that feels like math is pushing me as an excuse to not have to rehash that [but thats probably not a good point zzz].

in terms of general thoughts on math im kind of confused as to why hes still alive?
scum grabbing vig to try and justify mathblade's claim being alive this game seems pretty plausible to me.
i havent really looked into what people have been talking about here so i would be interested in whether this was talked about at some point/if people could link me to where it was talked about so i dont waste too much time speccing over something thats probably already been talked about at some point.

in summary i just get bad vibes about the timing and justification of his scumread on me in terms of how it relates to leon who is really really likely scum and his PVread and justification of scumreading me via his PVread feels wonky and the role stuff kind of pings me too.

people townreading mathblade should talk to me like im 12 about it.

p-edit: zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
please dont take the wind out of my sails just as im getting going.
at least not with generic shit like "your post sucks".
i dont think you understand how demotivating that in particular is for me.
please dont :/
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Post Post #10754 (isolation #478) » Thu Mar 16, 2017 1:16 pm

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In post 10752, Gorkington wrote:is your next post going to reveal that youve actually been scumreading me this whole time?
and this last page was just a joke?
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No I think you're Town I'm just trying to keep you alive and people will jump on anything they can at this point as an excuse to lynch you.
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Post Post #10755 (isolation #479) » Thu Mar 16, 2017 1:17 pm

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In post 10749, Gorkington wrote:like, at least engage me on it

what do you disagree with
I don't disagree with it Leonshade is just a low-hanging fruit and there's not a great deal of genuine gamesolving in it. Your follow-up post is excellent.
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Post Post #10757 (isolation #480) » Thu Mar 16, 2017 1:22 pm

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MathBlade is Town for several reasons, one of the most obvious ones being the hydra dissonance between Math and Titus that went on early in the game and resulted in Titus leaving the hydra. It's possible that this would occur within a scum hydra but much less likely. The fact that they're still alive shouldn't be surprising because they generally aren't an early NK choice that I've seen.

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Post Post #10758 (isolation #481) » Thu Mar 16, 2017 1:23 pm

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Let me know if you need a sounding board for anything.
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Post Post #10760 (isolation #482) » Thu Mar 16, 2017 1:37 pm

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KidAmn might be scum.

pedit no individual posts so much as the idea that them faking hydra dissonance over a large span of time and then eventually Titus replacing out of the hydra simply to get townread is a bit of a stretch. The hydra dissonance could have come genuinely from a scum hydra so it isn't as though the whole thing locks them as Town, but I think it's slightly more likely that it comes from Town.
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Post Post #10761 (isolation #483) » Thu Mar 16, 2017 1:38 pm

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I'll go through the DEO ISO later and see what kind of a read I get off the slot.
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Post Post #10762 (isolation #484) » Thu Mar 16, 2017 1:38 pm

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I don't really know how to read Math but I can read Titus.
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Post Post #10764 (isolation #485) » Thu Mar 16, 2017 1:42 pm

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If Notice is Town, though, I would sheep their TR of Math because those two have definite experience together. I just don't know whether or not Notice is Town.

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Post Post #10768 (isolation #486) » Thu Mar 16, 2017 1:53 pm

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In post 10766, CloudKicker wrote:Alos to anyone who will eventually call nancy scum again just reread thoses pages
The same should be said of Gork. You buddying up to me like this doesn't do wonders for my read of you, btw.
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Post Post #10772 (isolation #487) » Thu Mar 16, 2017 2:20 pm

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In post 10769, MathBlade wrote:Explain to me why Gork is town when he makes up clear bullshit about me and can't be bothered to gender me correctly. I don't see it.

I am sick and tired of repeating myself and making cases that get ignored. I simply state my reads and that works better.

Gork's theory of scum grabbing vig he is pitching to try to make me sound scum versus believing it. If he was actually thinking and hunting he would say if scum picked up vig it would be for the extra kill. However what is probably more likely is that town picked up vig and scum probably picked up a doc. Only reason I can think of as to why I am still alive.
Because this wagon on him is shit and because he's genuinely trying to solve the game. Because neither he nor his preds have done anything warranting a scumread. I don't think you've stated good reasons to scumread someone here.
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Post Post #10776 (isolation #488) » Thu Mar 16, 2017 2:32 pm

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In post 10774, MathBlade wrote:
In post 10772, nancy wrote:
In post 10769, MathBlade wrote:Explain to me why Gork is town when he makes up clear bullshit about me and can't be bothered to gender me correctly. I don't see it.

I am sick and tired of repeating myself and making cases that get ignored. I simply state my reads and that works better.

Gork's theory of scum grabbing vig he is pitching to try to make me sound scum versus believing it. If he was actually thinking and hunting he would say if scum picked up vig it would be for the extra kill. However what is probably more likely is that town picked up vig and scum probably picked up a doc. Only reason I can think of as to why I am still alive.
Because this wagon on him is shit and because he's genuinely trying to solve the game. Because neither he nor his preds have done anything warranting a scumread. I don't think you've stated good reasons to scumread someone here.
Let me summarize it for you

1) VCA points to Gork.
2) Creature claimed to roleblock Gork and no kill.
3) See above about how Gork is structuring his posts.
4) This post here he asks about the Leonshade wagon. Then in post he votes Leonshade. Clearly survivalist thinking here. I don't see a single reason how Leonshade became his top scumread. (which is always who you should be voting if wagoned)

It's things like number 4 that I don't see a townie thought progression on and he seems to be riding with the times rather than hunting.
1. Show me how VCA points to Gork.
2. A roleblock isn't a guilty with docs in play.
3. Why is the Brian quote relevant? If you can point to scum!Gork in Gork's posts, then do. Don't just say "I can rip his posts to shreds". Anyone can rip a post to shreds. Pointing out why someone is scum for said post is entirely different.
4. Survivalism is not scum indicative.
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Post Post #10778 (isolation #489) » Thu Mar 16, 2017 2:35 pm

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I should probably make that a little clearer to everybody so that we can stop wagoning Gork for shit reasons.

A roleblock isn't a guilty with docs in play.
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Post Post #10780 (isolation #490) » Thu Mar 16, 2017 4:55 pm

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Give me a readslist and a brief explanation on each.

Tell me why you were scumreading Sondam.

Explain to me exactly what was going through your head when you hammered Sondam.

Give me meta of games where you have quickhammered as Town.
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Post Post #10790 (isolation #491) » Thu Mar 16, 2017 6:55 pm

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If Gork is scum why is he suddenly getting lynched when there's been little to no pressure on the slot all game?
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Post Post #10791 (isolation #492) » Thu Mar 16, 2017 6:56 pm

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In post 10789, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:I'm pretty sure that Ali, Creature, Math, Nero, PV, and Vecna are all town.
Go in-depth on these?
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Post Post #10793 (isolation #493) » Thu Mar 16, 2017 7:10 pm

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Aslan why are you TRing Notice?
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Post Post #10794 (isolation #494) » Thu Mar 16, 2017 7:12 pm

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LUV, leave your vote on Gork for now.
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Post Post #10801 (isolation #495) » Thu Mar 16, 2017 7:22 pm

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Your read on me is witless, Nero.

Why is Yuri Town, Aslan? Why is Notice Town?
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Post Post #10813 (isolation #496) » Thu Mar 16, 2017 7:29 pm

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UNVOTE:
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Post Post #10817 (isolation #497) » Thu Mar 16, 2017 7:33 pm

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My reads barely change with Gork being scum, actually.
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Post Post #10824 (isolation #498) » Thu Mar 16, 2017 7:36 pm

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Then you got the wrong feeling.
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Post Post #10833 (isolation #499) » Thu Mar 16, 2017 7:40 pm

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Nero if you honestly think that I am creating chaos by holding back a lynch with 9 days until deadline then you should seriously reconsider your idea of how to play Town. You are currently in conf!bias oblivion and are little use to anyone.
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Post Post #10853 (isolation #500) » Thu Mar 16, 2017 7:47 pm

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LUV isn't untouchable, but I think there's enough of a chance he's Town that I don't want to lynch it right now.

Furthermore, Notice's most recent post reads to me like "We didn't send Gork to do the nightkill so he's caught for wrong reasons".
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Post Post #10854 (isolation #501) » Thu Mar 16, 2017 7:49 pm

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I want to lynch Leonshade because if it flips red then Notice and Caesar are conftown.
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Post Post #10861 (isolation #502) » Thu Mar 16, 2017 7:51 pm

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I'm not WIFOMing my reads. I'm admitting that I might be wrong on my read of Notice. I know that neither Notice nor Caesar bus, and both are gunning for Leonshade, so if that slot flips red neither of them are scum.
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Post Post #10870 (isolation #503) » Thu Mar 16, 2017 7:55 pm

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Wasn't WWE multiball?

Leonshade is tonally different from all his Town games.
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Post Post #10881 (isolation #504) » Thu Mar 16, 2017 7:59 pm

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In post 10865, NoticeMeSenpai wrote:Lol.

Yeah this is scum, and was whiteknighting Glork.
There's no way nancy gets this SO FUCKING WRONG as town after everything I've said.
Gets which part so wrong?

pedit LUV frequently busses as scum.
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Post Post #10894 (isolation #505) » Thu Mar 16, 2017 8:07 pm

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LUV if Leonshade is Town then why these three votes?
In post 2827, Leonshade wrote:Pushing obvtown A&N for BS reasons, works for me.

VOTE: Yuri

L-1.
In post 4258, Leonshade wrote:VOTE: beeboy

L-1.
In post 9807, Leonshade wrote:VOTE: Sondam

There won't be a better lynch today.
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Post Post #10897 (isolation #506) » Thu Mar 16, 2017 8:09 pm

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In post 10890, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:I was trying to get someone to take Oracle to confirm if he had slipped earlier because I was scum reading his slot hard D1.
You referring to Aslan?
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In post 10896, NoticeMeSenpai wrote:
In post 10881, nancy wrote:Gets which part so wrong?
No. If you're town you can work it out yourself.
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Post Post #10902 (isolation #508) » Thu Mar 16, 2017 8:13 pm

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Link me to where you're saying he slipped?
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Post Post #10905 (isolation #509) » Thu Mar 16, 2017 8:18 pm

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In post 10514, NoticeMeSenpai wrote:Glork, do you think Creature genuinely believes his roleblock of you stopped the kill? Do you think everyone who voted after Creature (being LUV and Alisae) believes in that being a hard guilty?
What did you think of Nero and Alisae's back and forth earlier where they voted you then Nero switched to Alisae?
What do you think of Vecna, MathBlade, and Leonshade all voting you together before Creature outed the roleblock?
In post 10522, NoticeMeSenpai wrote:@Ali Right, sorry have a lot of thoughts and want to sort this, I even mentioned it in the next line... rip

Anyway the thing is this doesn't match up with the gamestate of how many people were angling on certain things earlier. Today has gone down a certain way that I don't think matches with the nightkill being roleblocked. I don't doubt that Creature believes he has a guilty, but I'm not entirely sure that's what happened with the great wall, hanging gardens, and parthenon all also probably floating about.
If you're referring to these, I fail to see how they eliminate what I said as a possible interpretation.
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Post Post #10907 (isolation #510) » Thu Mar 16, 2017 8:19 pm

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How is that a scumslip?
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Post Post #10912 (isolation #511) » Thu Mar 16, 2017 8:24 pm

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Are traitors not possible in this setup, then?
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CIV is basically ancient Rome, where traitors are extremely common.
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Post Post #10917 (isolation #513) » Thu Mar 16, 2017 8:28 pm

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You should flip your list upside down, Nero.
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Post Post #10925 (isolation #514) » Thu Mar 16, 2017 8:36 pm

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In post 10913, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Not with the lore I think. I mean I don't play CIV but I highly doubt it.
In post 10916, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Hmmmm

I guess it is a possibility.
Gonna be blunt. When I read these two posts, I feel like I'm being lied to.
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Post Post #10927 (isolation #515) » Thu Mar 16, 2017 8:37 pm

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In post 10918, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 10910, Alisae wrote:But you didn't unvote Nero.
In post 10887, Nero Cain wrote:I don't care for "tone". I care about what a slot has done.
ok? I'm not arguing that I did. I just said I would have if I had the chance. but what does that have to do with like anything?
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No, what I meant was, it felt like you feigned ignorance in 10913 (holy fucking shit the post count), and then artificially considered the possibility. Just a feeling. Could be wrong.
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Post Post #10931 (isolation #517) » Thu Mar 16, 2017 8:42 pm

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In post 10929, Nero Cain wrote:though I might as well post this here....

In post 405, Nero Cain wrote:bought the Civ humble bundle pack so I have spare keys for Civ 3, Civ 5 and Civ 5 Gods and Kings expansion pack.
^^^^
must have steam.

I can pm the key to Nahdia so she doesn't think I'm cheating. She already has the games so she won't steal them.
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Post Post #10935 (isolation #518) » Thu Mar 16, 2017 8:44 pm

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@LUV Alright.

@Nero I was pointing out the discrepancy in your attitude. You don't care about anything except what other people have done, but you expect judgement to be suspended when it comes to your own behavior.
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Post Post #10936 (isolation #519) » Thu Mar 16, 2017 8:45 pm

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Oh, OK. Most people here have probably played Civ, I don't think that could constitute cheating in any way.
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Post Post #10937 (isolation #520) » Thu Mar 16, 2017 8:48 pm

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In post 10865, NoticeMeSenpai wrote:
In post 10853, nancy wrote:LUV isn't untouchable, but I think there's enough of a chance he's Town that I don't want to lynch it right now.

Furthermore, Notice's most recent post reads to me like "We didn't send Gork to do the nightkill so he's caught for wrong reasons".
Lol.

Yeah this is scum, and was whiteknighting Glork.
There's no way nancy gets this SO FUCKING WRONG as town after everything I've said.
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Post Post #10940 (isolation #521) » Thu Mar 16, 2017 8:57 pm

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I don't have a great read on Jae by any means (that should be obvious by now) but I do know a few small ways to help distinguish their Town game and their scum game. I'm not telling you they are locktown because they made that one post. But it bumps them from a scumlean to null.

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Whomever is Town on the Gorkington wagon needs to wake up to the gamestate and realize they are very likely pushing a mislynch.
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Post Post #10941 (isolation #522) » Thu Mar 16, 2017 9:02 pm

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@Nero nothing about Math, just about the general attitude towards people who were on mislynch wagons.
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Post Post #10943 (isolation #523) » Thu Mar 16, 2017 10:07 pm

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I feel you. And I'm just saying that you've done the same to me and others in the past. So we should probably start looking at things in a little less black and white.
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Post Post #10962 (isolation #524) » Fri Mar 17, 2017 1:59 am

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Read my posts, I've already covered everything. Preventing a shit lynch from going through with 9 days left to deadline =! creating chaos. Notice & Caesar do not bus, ergo if they push a scum lynch they are not scum. I am the same.

In post 10955, Vecna wrote:Nancy and elbrin had some pro-town play. Elbrin had some good observations about Notice Day1 that vibed very well with mine. I still had this little tingle back then that it couldve been faked though. It seemed almost too well thought out at times, too calculated. Elbrin also kept harping on when I didnt wanna answer a question of his just yet.
You're going to lynch someone at this stage in the game because of a tingle? Because he pressed you with questions? Seriously? This is a badly-reasoned read, Vecna.
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Post Post #10968 (isolation #525) » Fri Mar 17, 2017 2:07 am

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OK.

This is the lynch I want most today.

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Post Post #10972 (isolation #526) » Fri Mar 17, 2017 2:09 am

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You don't know shit about my play Nero. Stop fucking wasting your energy on my slot, if you're Town you're just a pure detriment as long as you keep butting your head against your own conf!bias.
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Post Post #10973 (isolation #527) » Fri Mar 17, 2017 2:10 am

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I WAS FUCKING ASLEEP WHEN THE QUICKLYNCH HAPPENED AND SONDAM WAS OBVTOWN TO ME
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Nero if you are Town you literally an embarrassment to MS.
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Post Post #10989 (isolation #529) » Fri Mar 17, 2017 2:33 am

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Notice my reads have been wonky for most of the game. I've gone through a lot of playstyle fluctuations over the period since I replaced in and the size of this game has basically just left me confused for a good deal of the time. I haven't played smart. But I've developed enough as a player by now to be able to at least wade in a game of this size and I think I'm pretty stable right now and have a good grip of what's going on finally. I reset my reads earlier today (IRL) and I like where I'm at currently. Also, you overestimate my ability to read you. When you're drunk, I can read you. Outside of that, I suck at it.
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Post Post #11004 (isolation #530) » Fri Mar 17, 2017 3:06 am

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In post 10993, NoticeMeSenpai wrote:
In post 10988, Vecna wrote:Also, this doesnt sound like drunk-posting at all.
Also, with all respect, you don't know me. I drink a hell of a lot, way more than I should, and like 2 nights(nancy?) ago I got really drunk to the point where I threw up and had the shakes all the next day....and yet I'm on it again because I'm an alcoholic but w/e, we all have our shit to get over.

Accusing me of lying about RL as any alignment is a fucking dog move.
3 nights I think. And yes, accusations about RL lying or anything is really below decency.
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Post Post #11007 (isolation #531) » Fri Mar 17, 2017 3:10 am

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Notice how confident are you on scum!Leonshade?
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Post Post #11008 (isolation #532) » Fri Mar 17, 2017 3:12 am

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In post 10999, NoticeMeSenpai wrote:
In post 10989, nancy wrote:When you're drunk, I can read you. Outside of that, I suck at it.
I don't think you suck outside of it tbh, but I have done a lot of stuff this day phase where if you're town you should know beyond a shadow of a doubt that I am town and that my hard trs are v likely conftown. Aslan, Creature and Math being those.
Except you're forgetting paranoia, which tends to eat me alive a lot.
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Notice if I hypothetically lock you as Town then the PoE on this game just becomes incredibly easy because it locks 3 other slots as Town at the same time and I have 2-3 reads I'm not confident in outside of my scumpool.
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Post Post #11019 (isolation #534) » Fri Mar 17, 2017 3:29 am

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{Aslan, Brian, Creature, MathBlade, Notice}
{Caesar, Gorkington, LUV}
{davesaz, Maxous, Nero, Vecna}
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{CK, KidAmn, Leonshade}

If my reads are shit then work with me to fix them. The last time I asked for that you said no so what do you want from me? I've been trying all day to fix my reads and basically no one's done anything to help me figure shit out.
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Post Post #11029 (isolation #535) » Fri Mar 17, 2017 3:38 am

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Like Notice I am actually willing at this point to just put you as Town because if the scumteam is SOMEHOW you MathBlade and whatever then we're fucked anyway and we're basically fucked as it is so banking on this is probably our best shot at winning.

Gorkington is Town because it makes no fucking sense for scum to come in today and suddenly bus one of their own after the kill getting docced or to let a lynch go through on him when they already have a vice grip on this game. Like basically as soon as we get one scumflip in this game the dominoes just fall.
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Post Post #11034 (isolation #536) » Fri Mar 17, 2017 3:46 am

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And btw with these wagons

Lynch Vote 4.12

Gorkington (7): Leonshade, Vecna, MathBlade, davesaz, Nero Cain, CloudKicker, Lil Uzi Vert
Leonshade (5): Brian Skies, NoticeMeSenpai, Gorkington, Alisae, nancy
davesaz (1): Maxous

Not Voting (3): KidAmn, Caesar Wills It, Creature


Scum have basically nowhere to hide.

If there are 2 scum off the Gork wagon then they have to move both onto it to get the hammer. Which they won't do just to lynch this. I know that town!Caesar won't hammer Gork, and I hope to god that Creature doesn't make the mistake of voting Gork.

pedit based on Cloud. He didn't defend someone via meta that I know he's capable of easily defending.
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Post Post #11039 (isolation #537) » Fri Mar 17, 2017 4:00 am

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In post 11032, NoticeMeSenpai wrote:There's also very likely more than 3 mafia. I'm pretty sure Vecna is mafia which would make Maxous town because I don't think the back and forth with them was SvS. I thought Maxous was scum because of thinking Vecna had to be town but it's very likely I just fucked up on my read there. dave is town, just trust me on that one if you're town. I can't figure out if Nero is just bad and only hunting off "anti-town" stuff because of that or mafia hiding behind it. I have issues reading Nero but I think Alisae townreads him so... ehn.. not an avenue I would pursue unless through associations given that I think because I keep not being able to read him when I follow games as well.

Can you expand on Yurislot/Kid? You had them as obvtown for the D1 wagon earlier?
I've been assuming 5. Probably 4 + 1 traitor? dave Town isn't at all hard to believe. Yuri is more based on KidAmn and PoE than Yuri. There were also some sketchy interactions I had with LUV where LUV was constantly making fun of me for clearing Yuri based on that wagon and from past experience I felt like that was scum!LUV saying you're dumb. With town!LUV that's obviously weakened. I don't want to clear the slot purely because of that Day 1 wagon no matter how obvious a Town lynching Town wagon it looked like. I half don't want to believe Nero is Town because it'd be kind of depressing if he was. I was never TRing him but I sheeped Caesar's read there, although I later learned that Caesar's read was based on out-dated meta. There's still the remote possibility of scum!Caesar, also.
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But if we assume Gork and Kid are Town solely by VCA/gamestate then by PoE scum is in {Caesar, CK, Leonshade, Maxous, Nero, Vecna}. That's a narrow pool, all things considered. The frustrating thing is that I don't have strong SRs on any of those slots, Caesar is a townlean, and Vecna/Maxous are null.
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Post Post #11042 (isolation #539) » Fri Mar 17, 2017 4:19 am

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Are you familiar with Vecna's meta Notice?
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Yuri was only ever Town based on that Day 1 wagon. I was scumreading them before that based on content, don't really remember why. Looking back now it's eh, dunno. KidAmn's ISO is really lifeless though.
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Post Post #11053 (isolation #541) » Fri Mar 17, 2017 4:43 am

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Well I am tanked. Going to bed with Jae. Feel like I've spent 12 hours on nothing but THIS THREAD. Holy bejeebus.

NO FUCKING QUICKLYNCHES WHILE I AM ASLEEP

WE HAVE NINE DAYS UNTIL DEADLINE WE DO NOT NEED TO LYNCH ANYTHING FOR ANOTHER 3 DAYS AT THE VERY LEAST

STOP HANGING THINGS

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Post Post #11071 (isolation #542) » Fri Mar 17, 2017 11:31 am

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In post 11055, MathBlade wrote:Like I hate that my scumreads are on Gork but I have not seen a single Leonshade is scum reason why. Ewwwwwwwww
Interesting because I haven't seen a single decent reason why Gork is scum either.

In post 11058, Creature wrote:
In post 10870, nancy wrote:Wasn't WWE multiball?

Leonshade is tonally different from all his Town games.
Out of tone, why?
Disregard this because I found a scumgame where he is tonally the same as his Town game.

In post 11062, Creature wrote:Does Vecna play like this as town? I'm wondering.
He's more laid back in the Town games I've read.

In post 11066, Creature wrote:Let's do Caesar, they're just blending in.
Why haven't you been doing any readslists?
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Because I'm curious who you think any of the scum might even be. And who think are Town. Basic coordination.
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In post 11070, MathBlade wrote:La la prod dodge. These wagons to try to save Gork suck. Will be back to full as I said on Monday.
There's 1 wagon, and it's not a wagon to save gork you're just conf!biased and the fact that all your TRs are off the gork wagon should probably tell you something.

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Post Post #11086 (isolation #545) » Fri Mar 17, 2017 3:26 pm

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In post 11077, Maxous wrote:
In post 11052, Nahdia wrote:
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KidAmn, Caesar Wills It, Creature
Hi creature.
You have a role block "guilty" yet you're not voting?
My bullshit radar is pinging
News flash: It's not a guilty.
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No, he's saying that Creature touted the RB as a guilty but then didn't vote the slot he RBed. Which is twisting what actually happened in thread. Maxous is a manipulative bullshiter, in other words.
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And why is that?
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You really ought to start actually saying things of substance in thread, Math. Not just saying "this feels bad" or "I could tear this to shreds". Your conf!bias is never going to be questioned if you don't talk through your logic and allow other people to show you where you've gone wrong.
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In post 11089, MathBlade wrote:
In post 11083, Maxous wrote:I think Pine is very town.
Trust me on this?

I will trust you on this.
At bday party with friends will post things later very likely Monday.
Ftr, this is what a house of cards looks like. Not what Gork posted. This. Sheeping someone else's reads blindly. One scum in the chain of trust and you're fucked.
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^ This is the lynch I need today.
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Post Post #11102 (isolation #552) » Fri Mar 17, 2017 10:38 pm

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In post 11096, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 11071, nancy wrote:Interesting because I haven't seen a single decent reason why Gork is scum either.
Well there was the fact Elbrin was doing shit all. There was Gin defending the fuck out of Math and chainsaw defending them. His quick bandwagon hop onto Sondam was p nasty as well. And Gork hasn't really done any scumhunting today so...
So you found a few superficial reasons why the slot has played poorly. Congrats? You're also excluding the fact that half the slots in this game have done just as poorly or worse.

In post 11097, Maxous wrote:
In post 11094, nancy wrote:VOTE: Maxous
a) this is getting kinda boring at this stage
b) if I roleblocked a scumread and there was no kill I would be a lot more aggressive about it regardless of potential docs
a) You're scum.
b) If I was made of icecream I would melt under the sun.

In post 11098, Nero Cain wrote:But yeah, Nancy was online and active so she's deff lying. Senpai has to be scum as well since she's corroborateing Nancy's lie. There are exactly three scum in Math, Nancy and Senpai.
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Post Post #11105 (isolation #553) » Fri Mar 17, 2017 10:42 pm

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/me flips town.

Please go fuck yourself now?
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Post Post #11106 (isolation #554) » Fri Mar 17, 2017 10:44 pm

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I wasn't lying Notice, I just didn't look at timestamps and didn't realize the lynch had gone through after I woke. I just assumed it had gone through when I was asleep because when I first checked the thread it was locked and the flip had been done.
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Post Post #11108 (isolation #555) » Fri Mar 17, 2017 10:46 pm

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GO FUCK YOURSELF

NO ONE FUCKING LIES ABOUT RL

YOU CAN FUCK RIGHT OFF
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Post Post #11110 (isolation #556) » Fri Mar 17, 2017 10:48 pm

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Btw Notice, I'm not liking the Leonshade wagon at all. I reviewed Yuri ISO and meta and my SR there is gone. I'm sold on Maxous scum and regardless of alignment the lynch gives us the 4-6 clears via PoE.
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Post Post #11111 (isolation #557) » Fri Mar 17, 2017 10:49 pm

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Plus if it flips scum then it gives us another scum essentially confirmed.
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Post Post #11113 (isolation #558) » Fri Mar 17, 2017 10:51 pm

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Also, I'm pretty sure Nero just is never this bad, belligerent, confbiased, and intentionally distracting as Town in this gamestate so I'm fairly comfortable putting that to a scumlean at least.
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Post Post #11115 (isolation #559) » Fri Mar 17, 2017 10:53 pm

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Nice comeback.
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Post Post #11117 (isolation #560) » Fri Mar 17, 2017 10:55 pm

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I know you've been SRing them all game so join me here and help make this a viable wagon but neither of the wagons we have going right now are going flip red.
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Post Post #11118 (isolation #561) » Fri Mar 17, 2017 10:56 pm

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In post 11117, nancy wrote:I know you've been SRing them all game so join me here and help make this a viable wagon because neither of the wagons we have going right now are going flip red.
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Post Post #11120 (isolation #562) » Fri Mar 17, 2017 11:01 pm

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You're a parody of a VI, Nero.
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Post Post #11124 (isolation #563) » Fri Mar 17, 2017 11:05 pm

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Caesar the thread has been dead for ages with Leonshade and Gork at L-3 and L-2, I seriously doubt that either is going to flip red.
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Post Post #11125 (isolation #564) » Fri Mar 17, 2017 11:05 pm

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Dw Caesar he's just scum.
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Post Post #11126 (isolation #565) » Fri Mar 17, 2017 11:07 pm

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Caesar ily.
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Post Post #11130 (isolation #566) » Fri Mar 17, 2017 11:52 pm

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XD
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Post Post #11131 (isolation #567) » Fri Mar 17, 2017 11:53 pm

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OK but how sure are you on Leonshade flipping red? Like, compared to ABR or Sondam, say.
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Post Post #11132 (isolation #568) » Fri Mar 17, 2017 11:54 pm

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I've asked for reasoning from people on their Leonshade scumreads and no one's given me any, btw.
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Post Post #11133 (isolation #569) » Fri Mar 17, 2017 11:55 pm

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Pretty sure you had a case against Leonshade that you were preparing to present but I haven't seen it yet.
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Post Post #11139 (isolation #570) » Sat Mar 18, 2017 12:45 am

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In post 9825, Caesar Wills It wrote:
Glorious Caesar greets the new Senators, and presumes that they shall serve the patricians they represent with dedication and wit.

We are most pleased with the foiling of whatever Barbarian plots were attempted in the night, and have little regret for the condemnation of the late Senator Sondam. While their innocence has since been proven, We feel that they were more useful to Our cause as a momentary diversion in the arena than any efforts they attempted in the Senate chambers.

We shall collect Ourself and present Our cause against the heathens Vecna and Leonshade later this day.


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You can't honestly expect me to be okay with a Leonshade lynch going through if you don't even want to provide your reasoning for it. How the fuck am I supposed to sort your slot lmfao
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Post Post #11141 (isolation #571) » Sat Mar 18, 2017 12:46 am

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LUV is probtown.
Vecna is probtown.
KidAmn is Town.
Leonshade could go either way.

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Post Post #11144 (isolation #572) » Sat Mar 18, 2017 12:55 am

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Maxous.
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Post Post #11145 (isolation #573) » Sat Mar 18, 2017 12:56 am

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Is that addressed to me, Gork?
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Post Post #11153 (isolation #574) » Sat Mar 18, 2017 1:10 am

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Math is Town. Notice explains it better than I.
In post 10349, NoticeMeSenpai wrote:MathBlade NEVER in a million years continues to AtE about what happened with Titus as scum. MathBlade and Titus both NEVER go that far and bring it into the thread as scum. As a friend of both I can 100% attest to this and someone else has in the past too. So there's your meta if you're so inclined. Math was town in that game too.
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Post Post #11155 (isolation #575) » Sat Mar 18, 2017 1:11 am

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In post 11152, Creature wrote:I'm considering starting a blacklist and have Alisae + nancy for the opening if they're town.
Aw, did I hurt your feelings by not giving you a readslist?
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Post Post #11156 (isolation #576) » Sat Mar 18, 2017 1:12 am

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You first, buddy-o.
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Post Post #11163 (isolation #577) » Sat Mar 18, 2017 1:32 am

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When your scumreads are the most obvtown slots in the game, ya got issues Nero. Keeping mining the too-stupid-to-be-scum cred tho, by all means.
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Post Post #11170 (isolation #578) » Sat Mar 18, 2017 1:53 am

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In post 11168, Creature wrote:
In post 11155, nancy wrote:
In post 11152, Creature wrote:I'm considering starting a blacklist and have Alisae + nancy for the opening if they're town.
Aw, did I hurt your feelings by not giving you a readslist?
Not a readslist.

I'm just wondering if you actually have scumreads. Or is everybody town for you?
I have a grand total of 6 scumspects.
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Post Post #11175 (isolation #579) » Sat Mar 18, 2017 1:57 am

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In post 11171, Creature wrote:Who are them?
Mirror mirror on the wall, who are the scummiest of them all?
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Post Post #11178 (isolation #580) » Sat Mar 18, 2017 1:58 am

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Riddle me, Creature.

Why are you so interested in my scumreads?

And why are you so unwilling to give reads of your own?
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Post Post #11183 (isolation #581) » Sat Mar 18, 2017 2:00 am

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In post 11173, Gorkington wrote:which is kind of ethically questionable but its not the worst point in the world if its true?
Please do not even go there. I do not lie about RL.
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Post Post #11185 (isolation #582) » Sat Mar 18, 2017 2:01 am

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In post 11182, Gorkington wrote:why do i play mafia
To talk to people like ME!

Really, don't waste your time with Nero. His sole function is suck all of your resources dry.
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Post Post #11187 (isolation #583) » Sat Mar 18, 2017 2:01 am

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In post 11180, Creature wrote:Because I want to see if any of my scumreads match yours and try to work together.
Uh-huh. You're scumreading me, and yet you want to work with me. Makey sensey.
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Post Post #11189 (isolation #584) » Sat Mar 18, 2017 2:06 am

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Yes, I manufactured that TR on KidAmn solely in response to your SR. You got me.
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Post Post #11190 (isolation #585) » Sat Mar 18, 2017 2:11 am

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If you want to engage with me, at least do me the decency of having read my posts. At least do me the decency of being willing to give back. Don't just take and expect me to continue giving.
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Post Post #11201 (isolation #586) » Sat Mar 18, 2017 4:34 pm

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RC you have no fucking clue how glad I am to see you.
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Post Post #11204 (isolation #587) » Sat Mar 18, 2017 4:52 pm

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Yeah I'm obvtown this game.
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Post Post #11206 (isolation #588) » Sat Mar 18, 2017 4:54 pm

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I was dying for you to replace in because Town just can't get anything done this game and we're approaching LyLo without a single scum flip. The re-read is fucking brutal so I don't know what you want to do about that. I can give you reads if you want.

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Post Post #11213 (isolation #589) » Sat Mar 18, 2017 5:03 pm

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Yeah I am ashamed of that ABR lynch but in my defense I had just replaced into my first large, I had no idea what the fuck I was doing (haven't had much of a clue for most of the game), and I've never played with ABR before.
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Post Post #11215 (isolation #590) » Sat Mar 18, 2017 5:04 pm

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I've basically been groping blindly this game until like a couple of days ago IRL.
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Post Post #11218 (isolation #591) » Sat Mar 18, 2017 5:08 pm

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In post 11216, RadiantCowbells wrote:its okay I replaced into this game for a reason
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Post Post #11220 (isolation #592) » Sat Mar 18, 2017 5:09 pm

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Yep. That was disgusting.
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Post Post #11225 (isolation #593) » Sat Mar 18, 2017 5:11 pm

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VOTE: Nero

My scumpool is {CK, Maxous, Nero} btw.
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Post Post #11227 (isolation #594) » Sat Mar 18, 2017 5:12 pm

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Tell me if you disagree on any.
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Post Post #11234 (isolation #595) » Sat Mar 18, 2017 5:24 pm

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Post Post #11239 (isolation #596) » Sat Mar 18, 2017 5:44 pm

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In post 11233, davesaz wrote:I must be in your must live pile. I even have a feeling that Creature and Maxous are the same alignment. It would be odd if they weren't.
If Maxous is Town then Caesar and Vecna are scum.
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Post Post #11240 (isolation #597) » Sat Mar 18, 2017 5:45 pm

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This is why I said I needed to lynch Maxous.
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Post Post #11246 (isolation #598) » Sat Mar 18, 2017 5:51 pm

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In post 11241, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:I'm down but I don't think we will have enough support for Max.
Past tense.

Also Math is TRing Nero.
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Post Post #11247 (isolation #599) » Sat Mar 18, 2017 5:52 pm

Post by nancy »

I don't need info lynches now that RC is here.
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hi meet my mafiascum gravestone, the flowers were probably left by camn or schadd or Prism, blow them kisses for me would you?

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