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In post 10075, Alisae wrote:oh yeah nANCY saying she WIFOM'd her reads is complete bullshit.
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Your reads are 100% waffle and you just voted me because my play is "anti-town". You are terrible.In post 10072, Nero Cain wrote:Math can be pretty horrible as town and I don't really think its outside the realms of impossibility that this is just bad town Math but them getting a wonder that requires they be vigged but not wanting to be vigged on n2 seems like a pretty huge dissonance. I'm also concerned with how much shade they've been throwing at the Nancy slot but never ever having reason to vote them. And Nancy hasn't even commented on it so I fee like it makes sense as scum buddy play.
I could maybe kinda see Gin/Gork coming to Maths defense for town cred. Would also make plenty of sense as buddy play.
I've played with LUV before and he's pretty useless as town. He's being useless but I don't really think its town. Like his hole "I'm going to be shit with my vote and punish town" is something that I have a hard time seeing coming from town. I think there's plenty of potential scum motivation in him not wanting to push anywhere or do anything.
davesaz I still think is scum for the reasons I outlined yesterday the fact that Sondam was a counter to his wagon is also telling. Also his "I'll start being useful if I don't get lynched and if I get a good result" seem like scumAtEto me.
I have a preconceived notion town should be open and forth coming with their reads but I've played enough games to know that there are some players that really really anti-town playstyles. Enter Nancy who wants you to believe that she has been WIFOMing her reads and I just don't really know if I buy that.
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You've seen me WIFOM the fuck out of my reads as Town, your excuses are transparently bullshit.In post 10075, Alisae wrote:oh yeah nANCY saying she WIFOM'd her reads is complete bullshit.
pedit I'll treat my TRs exactly how the fuck I want to.
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Legalism does not make your stance any less vacuous.In post 10089, Alisae wrote:
Bruh you cannot say meta is not reliable then say this shit.In post 10085, nancy wrote:
You've seen me WIFOM the fuck out of my reads as Town, your excuses are transparently bullshit.In post 10075, Alisae wrote:oh yeah nANCY saying she WIFOM'd her reads is complete bullshit.
pedit I'll treat my TRs exactly how the fuck I want to.
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You're prodding at the wrong issues here. Making much ado over technicalities doesn't strengthen your argument, especially when those technicalities are the result of twisted logic.In post 10094, Alisae wrote:and even if suddenly meta became reliable to you, you dismissing your reads yesterday as "Oh I was just WIFOMing my reads" is pretty conveniant and just seems like you're trying to wash your hands off of yesterday and pretend it never happened.
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Help me, Nero. You're my only hope.In post 10102, Nero Cain wrote:Also Nancy is bussing you.
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The amount of scumfuckery coming from the slot has just gotten too much after a certain point to ignore it all based on a meta tell.In post 10113, Brian Skies wrote:
What happened to your super secret towntell on Ali?In post 10010, nancy wrote:There's literally no way that Aslan isn't scum here. All his behavior with scumslots aside his play yesterday and today is just scum overload.
It's actually a very good reason considering that was a blatant scumhammer.In post 10120, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
lol because it's bull, if you wanted to lynch me off the Sondam hammer which is still bad but a much better reasoning fineIn post 10118, Nero Cain wrote:lol @ LUV getting all bent out of shape over being called useless.
"if we rolled scum" (together) = one of us is scum = LUV is scum.In post 10105, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:LOL why you lying Nero
And no nancy would not play like this if we rolled scum
pedit ^^ faux Aslan rage ^^
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No hesitation. No questioning whether Sondam might be frustrated Town giving up. No questioning the makeup of the wagon. Just a naked hammer. Scum.In post 10139, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Not that good of a reason really considering the context nancy.
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Fake posturing, you hesitating and wanting to hear a claim for yourself before putting your vote there has nothing to do with anyone else except you. You not waiting to question your read before ending the day. You had no read. You knew he was Town. Keep squirming, scum.In post 10157, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:I'm explaining to nancy why we wouldn't have had time to go through them claiming and everyone weighing in.
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What is your assessment of what is going on here? There's nothing fishy, I was WIFOMing the fuck out of Notice and watching how they responded. It's called scumhunting.In post 10221, Vecna wrote:At least you noticed this too. So youre very honed in on the fishy-ness going on here. Might also mean you are actually scum with Notice though. The flip from Nancy could make some sense if she simply agrees with my assesment of whats going on here. Hmmmm
I'm scumreading LUV..?In post 10222, Vecna wrote:Oh look at this. The slot is flipping around me/Alisae/Notice VERY HARD. Yet what does it vote? LUV? The fuck?
How can you have this much of a read flipping around going on, AND NOT wanting to lynch to sort it out for yourself?
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What doubts does it clear?In post 10233, Maxous wrote:At least that clears my small doubts about Vecna.
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Yes no. I'm moving away from heavy WIFOM in my play actually, it was mostly an experiment.In post 10236, Vecna wrote:So this flip-flopping around your vote on me, was just a reaction test as well? And you do this provably in all your games?
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I posted my start of day readslist at the start of the day. About to sleep so I'll the 2nd part when I wake up.In post 10240, Vecna wrote:How about you post a list of your -actual- reads without wifom?
And then tell me which of your posts containing reads, IN THE PAST, were real reads.
I want to be able to follow your real progression of reads. Testing people and pushing for a reaction is fine. Being completely unaccountable for everything you say, or every read you got is not.
Elaborate? Why, thought processes, etc.?In post 10241, Maxous wrote:
That he wasn't town?In post 10237, nancy wrote:
What doubts does it clear?In post 10233, Maxous wrote:At least that clears my small doubts about Vecna.
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I'm disturbed by the amount of people who have completely ignored Vecna's claim.In post 10320, CloudKicker wrote:
im looking at leon/gin/luvIn post 10310, nancy wrote:Cloud what the fuck are your reads I am losing my mind in this game and you're now my only locktown.
people that im still trying to sort are max/pine and in a lesser extent alibae
my towns are vec, nero and you. Math is a townlean but if im wrong on a townread its prob this one
anything else is null, yuri is town for d1
My lockscums are MathBlade and Notice. I'm still SRing Leonshade and LUV. Aslan is like a strong scumlean. My reads on LUV and Aslan are tied together a little, i.e., if one is scum they're both scum. LUV and Math's interactions have seemed vaguely SvS.
Notice and Math have both done things that are like wildly out of character for them, and some subtler things are missing too.
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Except that Town has no reason whatsoever to out themselves, whereas scum have every reason to do so.In post 10333, CloudKicker wrote:About the claims, i think taking that wonder is unecessary as to block that wonder to scum, i also think that vec is town moreso that i dont see the scumgain in that claim
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I am possibly wrong about Notice being scum and if so then I am also wrong about Math being scum. I am filled with self-doubt. I will place my trust in Caesar to lead me out of this dark cavern of treacherousness.
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You constantly saying "I'm obvtown" and shit like that just makes me really fucking paranoid about your slot. Your claim is weird and I don't know how to read it. Either you're bad!town, you're scum, or there's something I'm not seeing in the claim. I've already explained why I pushed on Caesar. I've already listed my reads.In post 10355, Vecna wrote:
Everyone realized its obvious im town. Get with the program. Also why sheep Ceasar? Someone you were scumreading before and trying to wagon less than one game-day ago?In post 10353, nancy wrote:I wish people would actually talk about Vecna's claim instead of just pretending it didn't even happen because I have nfc how to read it.
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Fortunately I have my PT to keep a track of this without stumbling through my ISO.In post 10240, Vecna wrote:How about you post a list of your -actual- reads without wifom?
And then tell me which of your posts containing reads, IN THE PAST, were real reads.
I want to be able to follow your real progression of reads. Testing people and pushing for a reaction is fine. Being completely unaccountable for everything you say, or every read you got is not. We already have one such person in this game (ceasar) and that annoyance is more than enough.
First:
Aslan
Nero Cain
Yuri
MathBlade
Leonshade
Elbirn
Creature
Brian Skies
Caesar Wills It
Lil Uzi Vert
Vecna
ssbm_Kyouko
davesaz
Maxous
Sondam
NoticeMeSenpai(I actually wasn't TRing Notice of my own volition, Aslan just told me to sheep their read and I did.)
Somewhere in the middle:
Aslan
Nero Cain
Yuri
MathBlade
Leonshade
Elbirn
Creature
Brian Skies
Caesar Wills It
Lil Uzi Vert
Vecna
ssbm_Kyouko
davesaz
Maxous
Sondam
NoticeMeSenpai
Now:
{Brian, Caesar, CK, PV, Vecna}
{davesaz, Maxous, Nero}
{Creature, KidAmn}
{Aslan, Math, Notice, Gorkington}
{Leonshade, LUV}
But they're currently fluctuating a little, I need time to re-establish and get a better feel for the gamestate. Rereading is in order (lol).
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Caesar wagon was never anything but a pressure wagon. It rose quickly because people sheeped me.In post 10383, Brian Skies wrote:
Unlike the other wagons, the Caesar wagon rose pretty rapidly, but with you, Math, and Yuri all citing nancy as the reason for their vote. It just didn't feel right to me, and you still haven't explained why you were so fine with voting their despite claiming previously that the gamestate indicated Caesar was probably town.In post 10380, CloudKicker wrote:"the Caesar wagon on the previous day bothered the shit out of me"
@brian why an how did it bothered you
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I've literally been trying to kill all of these people at some point in the game. You are off your rocker.In post 10548, Nero Cain wrote:I could maybe see a Luv/Math/Nancy/Gork/Senpai team.
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~reasons~In post 10583, Leonshade wrote:
How so?In post 10580, nancy wrote:HOLY FUCK GORK IS CLEARLY A MISLYNCH
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ARE YOU OUTING A FUCKING RESULTIn post 10550, Alisae wrote:BaeReed and nancy are not the same alignment please try again Nero.
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I think you are less the center of attention than you may believe.In post 10598, Alisae wrote:
This is a daily reminder that this is scum trying to find a way to wiggle out of their TR on me.In post 10595, Leonshade wrote:Would like to see this supposed rolefishing by Ali, def don't interpret that post you quoted as that.
I've got time tp phonepost for an hour if you want to bring sonething to my attentipn.
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Haven't seen it fail yet, but I wouldn't be surprised either tbh.In post 10601, CloudKicker wrote:i sheeped my read i had on nancy's vc regarding yuri, i doubt im wrong but i wouldnt be surprised
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Oh yeah I forgot to mention I went back over Math's ISO and found something I'd missed earlier so that was good I can probably refresh my reads but right now I'm so fking tired about to die barely awake just listening to gf singing rip
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There was some crucial stuff you weren't doing or so I thought but then I realized you were doing it I just hadn't seen it, not going to specify obviouslyIn post 10625, MathBlade wrote:
What did you find? And what changed your mind? Reasons are like candyIn post 10620, nancy wrote:Oh yeah I forgot to mention I went back over Math's ISO and found something I'd missed earlier so that was good I can probably refresh my reads but right now I'm so fking tired about to die barely awake just listening to gf singing rip
You're not locktown or anything and I'm still only here in thread on a superficial level, i.e., not actually gamesolving right now, because I'm just too busy, but you're probably Town.
I still don't get why you dropped your tunnel on Nero and went from saying LUV is probtown to saying he's confscum though.
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I expect far more of myself than what I'm doing here. If I wasn't so time poor I'd be able to straighten out my reads and grok the PoE on this but I am and it's frustrating.
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That Sondam lynch yesterday was pure scumfuckery btw and may have cost Town the game unless we play perfectly from here on out. Sonam was obvtown and his lynch gained nothing by way of information.
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