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Post Post #191 (isolation #0) » Mon Mar 13, 2017 11:33 am

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Gerry u want to link bro
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Post Post #194 (isolation #1) » Mon Mar 13, 2017 11:36 am

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In post 192, Randomnamechange wrote:
In post 191, Zachstralkita wrote:Gerry u want to link bro
hey i called him already

Cloudkicker u want to link bro
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Post Post #242 (isolation #2) » Tue Mar 14, 2017 7:43 am

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VOTE: CloudKicker
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Post Post #268 (isolation #3) » Tue Mar 14, 2017 11:43 am

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I am not used to this level of hype from CloudKicker
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Post Post #270 (isolation #4) » Tue Mar 14, 2017 11:49 am

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If my memory serves he normally acts normaler
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Post Post #393 (isolation #5) » Thu Mar 16, 2017 12:25 am

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I find Maria's ISO entirely unremarkable here let alone vote worthy...
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Post Post #496 (isolation #6) » Fri Mar 17, 2017 5:58 am

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In post 494, Clumsy wrote:He feel a lot like my last game with him where he won as scum. Not my top pick today though.
I think I disagree, he feels more troll-y here.
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Post Post #859 (isolation #7) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 8:54 am

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I believe that scum have functional communication capabilities
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Post Post #862 (isolation #8) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 8:54 am

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UNVOTE:
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Post Post #863 (isolation #9) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 8:56 am

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In post 13, CloudKicker wrote:Im softing a specific alignement :facepalm:


You motherfucker
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Post Post #869 (isolation #10) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 9:00 am

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In post 866, CloudKicker wrote:lol zach


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Post Post #871 (isolation #11) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 9:11 am

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McMenno what have you tried to solve this game?
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Post Post #873 (isolation #12) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 9:16 am

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He is the second head of Pepsiman/Coke hydra
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Post Post #875 (isolation #13) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 2:12 pm

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because masons should have a slightly more vested interest in the town is all I'm saying


mcmenno looks like he doesn't give a fuck, Alisae gives a little fuck for fuck's sake
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Post Post #880 (isolation #14) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 2:19 pm

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In post 877, Pepsiman and Coke wrote:After playing with dreal in witch trials, HoH, NY 200, I'm policy lynching the slot.
VOTE: dreal
-Pepsiman (Ali)

Are you saying he doesn't fit his "town meta" or is it something specific


As for your last post well, I asked mcmenno because I had felt it was like his scum play


Pedit yeah I'm interested to dig into this meaty delicious drealmerz wagon
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Post Post #883 (isolation #15) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 2:25 pm

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Now gents, we all know it's close to 40 pages in and dreal hasn't snapped and thrown small animals at people yet but I don't know if that's indicative

Has anyone here played a scum game with drealmwrz?


That said I find the tone of his posting to be more sarcastic(not the right word for that) than usual. That's all I can really say about that.
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Post Post #885 (isolation #16) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 2:32 pm

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You don't like meta reads but you're policying him for his [meta] as a player which is [being dreal]


Well he's a big boy, he can take care of himself
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Post Post #887 (isolation #17) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 2:41 pm

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He is strong he just has misdirected confidence in his read ability and sometimes way to go about things (game theory, I suppose,? Etc)


when he's wrong it's staggeringly destructive but he is good otherwise


You guys don't cut him enough slack, he's barely adjusted to life off of his home planet.
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Post Post #888 (isolation #18) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 2:43 pm

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he


Can't


Survive


Without



CaRBON MONOXIDE AND SUNLIGHT
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Post Post #889 (isolation #19) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 2:52 pm

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Lmfao what if drealmerz was piccolo his avi is green and purple too!!
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Post Post #900 (isolation #20) » Tue Mar 21, 2017 5:35 am

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why precisely do you want me tho
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Post Post #905 (isolation #21) » Tue Mar 21, 2017 7:32 am

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gerryoat wrote:
In post 897, CloudKicker wrote:i disagree about dreal, gerry whats your read on zach this game ? we both played wtih him as scum but you mostly
I dunno. But he just asked a dumb question
hows it dumb? you boys were both on my team as scum that other game


you're wildin if you think im scum
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Post Post #969 (isolation #22) » Tue Mar 21, 2017 1:10 pm

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In post 967, gerryoat wrote:Also only reason I'm not voting pepto is cause his lynch will bring us nothing.


What are your opinions on the one content-y post he had, context taken into consideration
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Post Post #998 (isolation #23) » Tue Mar 21, 2017 2:00 pm

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In post 975, gerryoat wrote:Zach don't come outta nowhere and start asking questions. That's what scum does

I tend to ask questions if maybe answers are something I'm interested in at some point during the proceedings



yeah, I'm weird like that
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Post Post #1221 (isolation #24) » Wed Mar 22, 2017 6:52 am

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In post 1219, CloudKicker wrote:
In post 1216, drealmerz7 wrote:
In post 1214, CloudKicker wrote:
In post 1210, drealmerz7 wrote:I'm just sharing thoughts and possibilities

that's healthy

CK, STOP talking about towntells and scumtells, they DON'T EVEN EXIST holyshit

you can READ something as a towntell, but there aren't established 'towntells' and 'scumslips' - if there were, well, the game would be lame
Theres no reason why you brought up me and gerry neihborizing to make a case that we are both scum again, please explain me in details how was it relevant in any way
did you read the fucking post??!?!?! like, you just want me to repeat myself or you don't understand why I said that or??!?!?! like, reading comprehension people, seriously
you arent this bitchy when youre town
im doubting that you have ever played with this man before
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Post Post #1236 (isolation #25) » Wed Mar 22, 2017 6:59 am

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In post 1233, CloudKicker wrote:
In post 1221, Zachstralkita wrote:
In post 1219, CloudKicker wrote:
In post 1216, drealmerz7 wrote:
In post 1214, CloudKicker wrote:
In post 1210, drealmerz7 wrote:I'm just sharing thoughts and possibilities

that's healthy

CK, STOP talking about towntells and scumtells, they DON'T EVEN EXIST holyshit

you can READ something as a towntell, but there aren't established 'towntells' and 'scumslips' - if there were, well, the game would be lame
Theres no reason why you brought up me and gerry neihborizing to make a case that we are both scum again, please explain me in details how was it relevant in any way
did you read the fucking post??!?!?! like, you just want me to repeat myself or you don't understand why I said that or??!?!?! like, reading comprehension people, seriously
you arent this bitchy when youre town
im doubting that you have ever played with this man before
Sarcasm?

yes i know you have played with him before

but he be snapping on town LMAO
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Post Post #1337 (isolation #26) » Thu Mar 23, 2017 1:24 pm

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VOTE: Pepsiman and Coke



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Post Post #1555 (isolation #27) » Sun Mar 26, 2017 11:36 pm

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oops fuck
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Post Post #1556 (isolation #28) » Sun Mar 26, 2017 11:39 pm

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im inclined to agree with cloud on kidamn being scummy
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Post Post #1645 (isolation #29) » Tue Mar 28, 2017 12:24 am

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In post 1567, KidAmn wrote:
In post 1556, Zachstralkita wrote:im inclined to agree with cloud on kidamn being scummy
I look forward to you going into detail on why this is, other than the fact that I have you as null-leaning-scum and pointed out your lack of activity today.

I fail to see what these things you mentioned have to do with anything bud


You actually think I'm OMGUSing lol
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Post Post #1648 (isolation #30) » Tue Mar 28, 2017 1:00 am

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In post 1646, KidAmn wrote:
In post 1645, Zachstralkita wrote:
In post 1567, KidAmn wrote:
In post 1556, Zachstralkita wrote:im inclined to agree with cloud on kidamn being scummy
I look forward to you going into detail on why this is, other than the fact that I have you as null-leaning-scum and pointed out your lack of activity today.

I fail to see what these things you mentioned have to do with anything bud


You actually think I'm OMGUSing lol
Well, "bud", where I come from people actually give reasons for why they think people are scum, instead of yelling "what he said!" while doing the absolute bare minimum to remain in this game.

I'm asking if you actually believe what you're saying, why do I need to go out of my way if I'm already lurking to call you out needlessly when you don't even have a scum read on me? You have a scum LEAN. Knowing this, there would have to be some sort of motivation for me to just pop in here and say something.

I mainly had an issue with your other scum leans too - I think they're all surface level reasons and made up far too easily. Your tone strikes me as not genuinely trying to solve.

Your responses to people are great - you tend to naturally attempt to discredit someone if they're in opposition to you.
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Post Post #1672 (isolation #31) » Tue Mar 28, 2017 7:20 am

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In post 1656, Pepsiman and Coke wrote:Yeah scum is probably in dreal, Zach, Clums.
Don't let dreal get to endgame please.
-Pepisman (Ali)

U picked 2 of the easiest people to scum read
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Post Post #1694 (isolation #32) » Sun Apr 02, 2017 3:25 am

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VOTE: KidAmn

I feel comfortable with this. Will expound on today.
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Post Post #1712 (isolation #33) » Sun Apr 02, 2017 4:40 am

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Math, does dwealmerz have a SOLIDIFIED SCUM TELL?
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Post Post #1719 (isolation #34) » Sun Apr 02, 2017 4:45 am

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In post 1716, drealmerz7 wrote: I just saw zach's comment in the preview, no, I don't have a solidified scumtell, are you fucking kidding?

HAHAHAHAH I WAS WAITING FOR THIS LMAO
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Post Post #1724 (isolation #35) » Sun Apr 02, 2017 4:55 am

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MathBlade wrote:In one scum game he claimed some neutral shit.
In one scum game he claimed some weird ass vig hybrid that couldn't do shit and I don't know if he fear killed me or what as the mafia PT is locked but yeah.

Drealmerz is also more yelly in his scum games and as Town reserved. To me reading Drealmerz is easy.
He's yelled in a good 80% of his town games I've had with him


His behavior fluctuates so I don't really bother to meta read him
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Post Post #1882 (isolation #36) » Mon Apr 03, 2017 8:32 am

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In post 1878, drealmerz7 wrote:
In post 1870, gerryoat wrote:
In post 1857, Clumsy wrote:That explains why Gerry's reads are shit. He doesn't read.
yes. the 2 people that i called obvs town yesterday are both confirmed town and my reads are shit l0l
gerry you say this is so many fucking games

IF YOU WERE SCUM YOU'D KNOW THEY WERE TOWN, DUH

this defense of yourself does nothing when it is as flat as you make it

I'd vote gerry over maria right now


I feel like you're way too smart to act like this when you say these sorts of things
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Post Post #1898 (isolation #37) » Mon Apr 03, 2017 11:40 am

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~My case on Kid will come tomorrow or something.
In post 1896, BTD6_maker wrote:I have been busy recently.

Anyway, the lynch wagon provides new analysis material. First is The Bulge's vote on Pepsiman and Coke. They voted and gave the reason that they found out that Pepsiman and Coke and Cloudkicker were not Masons. (Of course, we now know that they were Lovers). After that, they stopped interacting with Pepsiman and Coke altogether.

If you had other reasons for this scumread, can you please state them?

Zachstralkita also stated next to nothing on Pepsiman and Coke other than stating that they picked the two easiest scumreads, and that came after the vote.

Again, please state other reasons you had.
I didn't like McMenno's play and I don't think Alisae did a lot to contest it. Plus, I was like, hey, I don't normally get on Day 1 main wagons, so why don't I give it a try, you know, for once.


And it fucked me. It fucked me bad, man.
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Post Post #1899 (isolation #38) » Mon Apr 03, 2017 11:45 am

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In post 1889, KidAmn wrote:I'm so fucking done with this shit holy shit fuckballs
In post 1882, Zachstralkita wrote:
In post 1878, drealmerz7 wrote:
In post 1870, gerryoat wrote:
In post 1857, Clumsy wrote:That explains why Gerry's reads are shit. He doesn't read.
yes. the 2 people that i called obvs town yesterday are both confirmed town and my reads are shit l0l
gerry you say this is so many fucking games

IF YOU WERE SCUM YOU'D KNOW THEY WERE TOWN, DUH

this defense of yourself does nothing when it is as flat as you make it

I'd vote gerry over maria right now


I feel like you're way too smart to act like this when you say these sorts of things
You. Case. Now.
And real talk its not a lot of info I have to lay out so it won't be that intensive


Don't worry I got u
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Post Post #2094 (isolation #39) » Tue Apr 04, 2017 8:27 am

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In post 2080, drealmerz7 wrote: (you don't ever self vote, okay? EVERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR)
yeah dont do that
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Post Post #2206 (isolation #40) » Tue Apr 04, 2017 9:45 am

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So I might as well start doing my KidAmn thing, not a lot of stuff to say anyway, and I'll do reads when I feel like it or if someone asks me

Not a whole lot you can grab from his first catch up post in way of reading alignment unless you're biased IMO

but the second

Spoiler:
In post 1487, KidAmn wrote:
In post 655, RadiantTroubadour wrote:
In post 653, drealmerz7 wrote:RT, you learn nothing from lurker lynches on D1 and there's plenty of content to find something scumworth to vote for - you are just trying to see what you can push that has some "go" to it, scum!
my god

first of all i'm not even voting you i was pressuring you - my top scumread is the person i'm voting for

second no one is lynching you because you're lurking literally all of your posts have been scummy - if you want to change that do something town

also you're being wagonned not lynched the day is still young and a fuckton of slots havent posted readable content
In post 659, drealmerz7 wrote:I haven't done anything that looks like anything, and there is no "what looks like my town play!", and you haven't played nearly enough games to even pretend to say that, CK, eesh

I was getting to voting, was giving a little more time to see if more ppl voted or what went on with some slots but, eeeesh, you're so eager

VOTE: RadiantTroubadour

leon, they haven't been putting in good work! scum is more likely to put in the sort of effort they've been putting in, and it definitely feels more like that than helpful town, by a lot (to me, obviously)
Good post, followed by a bad reaction.
In post 665, Pepsiman and Coke wrote:Would peopel riot if I said I liked dreal's vote.
Because tbh I do.
-Pepsiman (Ali)
...for real? If you like it, why aren't you on it?
In post 679, drealmerz7 wrote:so, 2 factions? harmony was a more basic pre-cursor to this? probably!

oh, giggles, you make me laugh
I really really dislike anyone throwing multiball aspersions out there on D1 before we have -ANY- information that would suggest that.
In post 704, CloudKicker wrote:its part of the double wifom, i have to manipulate mariar into thinking i wouldnt say those thing as mefia you know
In post 706, CloudKicker wrote:
In post 705, drealmerz7 wrote:are you a jester?
nah, if i wanted to be lynched i would scumtell :facepalm:
In post 707, Leonshade wrote:VOTE: CloudKicker

Game is way out of RVS by now, no excuse for this play.

Pepto push seems to be on an easy mislynch rather than scum.
Me is right. Me is smart. Me is important. (or is it "was"? This is all very confusing - but Leon is right)
In post 721, Rautherdir wrote:Question for the two of you: Do you think we have two different scum factions with opposing wincons? Two scum factions who share a wincon but don't have communication with each other? Or just one faction with no communication right now? Cause right now something isn't adding up and I think I can guess what it is...
Oh look someone else throwing out multiball aspersions with no flips or associatives or kill numbers to back it up
In post 748, Pepsiman and Coke wrote:Leon get off Cloudie
/me pouts.
-Pepsiman (Ali)
In post 755, Pepsiman and Coke wrote:CLOUDIE HE DID A THINGY!
-Pepsiman (Ali)
In post 758, Pepsiman and Coke wrote:
In post 752, Leonshade wrote:Why do you TR him?
he's by gut conftown read.
-Pepsiman (Ali)
:facepalm:
In post 835, Pepsiman and Coke wrote:
In post 793, RadiantTroubadour wrote:You can claim masons with him and I'll still end up lynching the pair of you, just like I tried to do in Marquis's game. they are scum they are dying no one in this game takes you seriously.
well we are so fuck you

btw screaming @everyone to lynch your scumreads because you are a scumhunting g o d and if they don't have the same reads as you they fundamentally suck as a mafia player is not "good play" (yes even if you consistently catch scum)

~coke
HEY, now I know what everyone's talking about right now! Awesome! How easily this claim came up after some pressure from RT is weird af though.
In post 871, Zachstralkita wrote:McMenno what have you tried to solve this game?
Given that I literally don't remember any of your posts at this point in my readthrough (and looking at your ISO you've been cheerfully prod-dodging along with the absolute bare minimum) I could ask you the same here
In post 900, Zachstralkita wrote:why precisely do you want me tho
In post 901, Clumsy wrote:
In post 898, CloudKicker wrote:i kinda tr radiabadour/raut and dreal in a lessaer extent, i want pep or zach. PEP is like insanely a better lynch than dreal, dreal is one of the easiest slot to sort

What are your reasons for either Pep or Zach?
In post 902, CloudKicker wrote:scummy
The fuck is this, Cloudkicker? Wait, don't answer, I can answer this for you by making you answer it in the past - it's
In post 902, CloudKicker wrote:scummy


Spoiler:
In post 1487, KidAmn wrote:
In post 998, Zachstralkita wrote:
In post 975, gerryoat wrote:Zach don't come outta nowhere and start asking questions. That's what scum does
I tend to ask questions if maybe answers are something I'm interested in at some point during the proceedings

yeah, I'm weird like that
I mean, if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's probably a duck or similar species. Basically what I'm trying to say here is you look an awful lot like someone doing their best to fly under the radar D1.
In post 1003, The Bulge wrote:Alrighty first thing's first.

Pepsiman and Cloudkicker are NOT masons.


We share a neighbourhood. During pre-game, ck misunderstood his role and believed it to be a masonry. After the mod clarified, alisae started appealing to ck, calling him "literally conftown". When ck was unreceptive to the coddling, alisae immediately suggested a mason fakeclaim.

One post in particular from alisae gave me very very similar vibes to , ie a forced all caps "OMGGGGGG WHYYY", after someone in the neighbourhood revealed part of their role.
In post 748, Pepsiman and Coke wrote:Leon get off Cloudie
/me pouts.
-Pepsiman (Ali)
Ck expressed concern about this post in the pt, as this was before any serious plans to fakeclaim were made.

Enter me. My first post in the pt was a question about why neighbourhoods are considered anything but anti-town, especially if the assumption is made that there is scum lurking (who does posting in the neighbourhood benefit except scumneighbours sitting around soaking in juicy private townspeak?). Rather than answer my question, alisae replied with something about the benefits of treating a neighbourhood like a masonry, ignoring my concerns and
completely contradicting earlier statements alisae himself made about being wary of possible scumneighbours
. I restated my question in my next post, and alisae immediately townread me for having "genuine concerns", and then went on to list why he townread everyone else in the neighbourhood.
Once again, dodging my question entirely
. Keep in mind also that each of these posts were within 3 minutes of mine, and alisae had me marked as town-enough-to-trust-as-if-a-mason-partner after I had made literally only those two posts (my only main thread posts at the time were the first two of my ISO).

It's hard to present a convincing case because my read is 99% based on PT interactions and I cant quote them but if you had your vote on pepsi before the fakeclaim pls help me lynch this
BIGLY IF TRUE (nah but seriously this is the most town-oriented post of D1 so far in my readthrough, A+++ Gold Star Will Put My Mouth On Private Places If You're Down With That It's Cool If You're Not Though Because Consent Is Important
In post 1015, gerryoat wrote:cloud is town. bulge is town and bad. vote dreal and then clumsy day 1 and then 2.
In post 1018, CloudKicker wrote:@Bulge youre a sack of shit, you had no reason to out that when i clearly townsliped so hard in that pt believing we were 4 masons, the fuck is wrong with you
In post 1019, gerryoat wrote:Me too. buldge is bad town tho. its ok
This whole little interaction is super weird but I'm hesitant to call two morons flirting with each other scummy
In post 1053, RadiantTroubadour wrote:BULGE IS SCUM HERE 20000000000000000000000000000000000% OF THE TIME AND ANYONE WHO STANDS ME IS SIGNING A PAPER THAT I WILL LITERALLY MAIL TO YOUR HOUSE TO CONFIRM THAT YOU ARE A MAFIA DUMMY AND IF YOU EVER FIGHT ME IN A FUTURE GAME I WILL POST A FUCKING SCREENSHOT OF YOUR SIGNATURE TO THE THREAD
Wait what
In post 1074, The Bulge wrote:VOTE: aelita

cloud i am genuinely sorry if you feel like your game is ruined. I misunderstood the early pt posts and couldnt ignore the heavy scumdar pings from alisae and that's all that made sense to me.

Right now I'm just sorta flabbergasted that pepsiman is town
Wait Aelita is in this game? *checks ISO* Oh wait, she's only in this game in name only. Because again, doing the bare minimum to avoid prodding, zero content, just asking for links.
In post 1086, CloudKicker wrote:please bulge do not under any circumstance say other stuff in that pt since i leaked tons of stuff because i thought it was a masonry
I don't see why town!Cloud who thinks he's in a nborhood with scum!Bulge thinks this is a necessary or useful post to make. If Bulge is scum, and the wagon progresses from here to a lynch, Bulge presumably hits the Big Red Fuck You Button and posts it regardless. Anyone with a brain would assume that that information is at bare minimum available to scum, right?
In post 1122, The Bulge wrote:
In post 1118, CloudKicker wrote:I HAVE AN ANNOUNCEMENT :facepalm:
THIS WAS ALL A REACTION TEST ORCHESTRATED BY ME AND CLOUDKICKER YALL JUST GOT PLAYED

PEDIT. but im his only townread besides the masons?
IT WAS JUST A SOCIAL EXPERIMENT BRAAAAAH yeah nah get the fuck outta here
In post 1159, CloudKicker wrote:Alisae is "only" heavily hinted to be town, like extremely hinted to be town and i personnaly believe he is town by their plays, rxns and other stuff but ""officially"" they arent mod confirmed to me in fact
Whoah whoah whoah whoah. Hold up.
In post 1063, CloudKicker wrote:
In post 1052, MariaR wrote:
In post 1050, CloudKicker wrote:
In post 1042, MariaR wrote:It's a neighborhood big woop Cloud is town I don't tr Alisae and I'll vote it and maybe clum *Shrug* but this has more voyes
ALISAE IS LITERRALY, MOD CONFIRMED TOWN TO ME
You don't know what a neighborhood is do you.
ALISAE ALIGNEMENT IS IN MY MOTHER FUCKING ROLE PM MARIAR, HOW CAN I BE CLEARER
In post 1029, CloudKicker wrote:only alisae is mod conf to me, then when i joined my special pt 4 person showed up so i assumed a masonry then i asked the mod and he clarified only alisae is conf town
Oh man. I mean, I have to just fucking laugh at this point because... wow. What a shit show. I would say "lynch all liars" but I don't think you're lying about Alisae's alignment being in your role PM somehow.
In post 1189, Aelita wrote:Anyone interested in linking with meh?
Maybe if you POSTED ANY ACTUAL CONTENT AND REMEMBER THAT THIS POST LITERALLY COMES AFTER THE ABOVE FLUSTERCUCK OF THE LAST FEW PAGES
In post 1195, Pepsiman and Coke wrote:Oh you know what.
Fuck this.
Me and Cloudie have abilities in our role PMs which involve us working together.
We have to litterally use our action on the same person for our ability to work.
-Pepsiman (Ali)
Not necessarily alignment indicative, really weird part-hard claim, and this is your response to all of the previous shenanigans? Meeeeeeh not feeling it.

Not gonna quote 1197 (Bulge) because it's yuuuuge but it screams town to me

Cloud 1203-1207 - I struggle to read cloud, but this is veeeery evocative of his scum meta IMO.
In post 1221, Zachstralkita wrote:
In post 1219, CloudKicker wrote:
In post 1216, drealmerz7 wrote:
In post 1214, CloudKicker wrote:
In post 1210, drealmerz7 wrote:I'm just sharing thoughts and possibilities

that's healthy

CK, STOP talking about towntells and scumtells, they DON'T EVEN EXIST holyshit

you can READ something as a towntell, but there aren't established 'towntells' and 'scumslips' - if there were, well, the game would be lame
Theres no reason why you brought up me and gerry neihborizing to make a case that we are both scum again, please explain me in details how was it relevant in any way
did you read the fucking post??!?!?! like, you just want me to repeat myself or you don't understand why I said that or??!?!?! like, reading comprehension people, seriously
you arent this bitchy when youre town
im doubting that you have ever played with this man before
Speaking of people who weirdly have no response to the last 10 pages of bullshit but feel qualified to chime in here (mid-post edit - and just jumped on the Pepsi wagon - HMMMM.)
In post 1253, Rautherdir wrote:VOTE: No Lynch
I'm 99% certain that any successful lynch today will be on town. Let's just pass it to night and give each other a few good days to calm down and rethink. What happens during the night should help us figure out this game better anyways.
Fuck this slot. Like, I'm sure you're a lovely person and this isn't aimed at you as a person, but as a Mafia player? :left: (Although I think this is just a stupid idea rather than a scummy idea necessarily, it's telling that this a) comes as the Pepsiman wagon begins to approach the DANGER ZONE and b) instantly gets a response from Pepsiman who went silent for a few pages beforehand)

Aaaaand I'm up to the point where I joined the game, thanks for joining me on this absolute shitfest of a ride/readthrough

hard SRs: Pepsiman (and now officially
declaring intent to hammer
), Cloud(predicated on the assumption PM&C are scum but as noted above strong meta read), Rauth (No Lynch Vote, followed by hard distancing from PM&C)
Scumleans: Aelita, Zach (both for lack of content D1/failure to engage with the gamestate - Zach is stronger for his failure to engage combined with hopping on the PM&C wagon to put it at L-1 without comment)
Townleans: Dreal, MariaR (inb4 RT gets mad but I
don't
know Maria and I know I've done the "this game sucks ur all mean I want out" thing before as scum)
hard TRs: RT, Pepto, Bulge

If you're not on the list you're null right now.

Let's do this shit.


So the best way to describe this is that I think his posts are manufactured townie narrative. You make observations but they're of the general type. Point out x scummy action here. and here. it reads very generic to me.

Also, the whole crusade against lurkers thing. At the time, those catch up posts were the only ones made with content. Day 1 was a lot of shitposting but still a lot of content/interactions to go through, but you didn't go at length

The premise of pressuring or having scum reads on lurkers is because you want them to post and contribute information to the game, but I'm doubtful that you actually desired that information based on most of your content. Aside from the RT stuff you posted a lot about and Pepsiman/Coke, you had your catch up posts which were: a whole lot of quotes, but not a lot of stuff actually said.

In that Day 1 reads list your scum leans and your scumread on Rauth was weak. I know Rautherdir is dead. But you have experience playing, and the fact that he voted NL was one of your main reasons for scumreading him... I mean.. scum don't really openly push NL like that. "NO LYNCHING IS ANTI TOWN" is true, but having someone as scum simply for a NL vote has no forethought.

In post 1581, KidAmn wrote:
In post 1574, CloudKicker wrote:
In post 1567, KidAmn wrote:
In post 1556, Zachstralkita wrote:im inclined to agree with cloud on kidamn being scummy
I look forward to you going into detail on why this is, other than the fact that I have you as null-leaning-scum and pointed out your lack of activity today.
How his your read on him relevant that you scumtlold into oblivion?
Please, oh wise one, do inform me just how I "scumtlold". I came to MS to learn from such masters of the keyboard as yourself.

And it's relevant because he gives no reason other than "i agree with Cloud", and your reasons are frankly empty waffle "feels fake" and "tone is fake" and assuming I don't have a meta read on you without completing a game with you (because there's no way I could, say, read your previous games here, right? Such as Mini Normal 1843, where you introduced yourself with the gem "-Be aware that i lie, i troll, i bait people all the time into giving me reactions so i can read them and i can also be abrasive at time." before winning as scum)

But I digress - right now, the question I'm asking myself is "is Zachstralkita just OMGUSing, or is something else going on here?" which he needs to answer.
This shit right here feels so contrived, it's like you're trying to take us through your supposed thought process but we see you making it up. For one, what reason would I even have to OMGUS like that and draw attention to myself for no reason? Because you called out a scum LEAN on me? Not a scum read? A scum lean. There's a few more quotes I can attribute this manufactured-ness to.


Also, the way you interact with people fluctuates based on how they perceive you. When someone treats you as scum or rather, contests you, the sarcasm and stuff dials way up. It's a way to shift the course of the interactions you have. This is detectable in the ISO.

See I kinda went all over the place, but I think you get the gist of what I'm saying.


I'm not interested in lynching Maria, I think Math is town though. Mainly I want to see what Clumsy says when he gets here. I was thinking of voting there.
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Post Post #2212 (isolation #41) » Tue Apr 04, 2017 9:49 am

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Well for starters I mean you guys can get the fuck off of Maria

Day 1 when those votes started I said exactly that. the wagon sucks tbh. I'm reading her rxns genuine.
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Post Post #2223 (isolation #42) » Tue Apr 04, 2017 9:57 am

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RE: 2217:

Tone and gut is a big part of play for some people, so yeah "feels" isn't as discrediting as you think

As for your reaction to me it's great, good stuff, I really like it, I do stuff like that

but if you're scum it's going to make it harder for you because i'm going to get in that ass

if you're town it's going to make it harder for both of us

There were valid concerns raised in my post ie ("why are your scum leans so fake?" "what motivation do i have to pop out of the shadows because user KidAmn posted slightly negatively about me?" which I'd like to see you respond to, but we can do that too
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Post Post #2227 (isolation #43) » Tue Apr 04, 2017 10:01 am

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Zachstralkita wrote:RE: 2217:

Tone and gut is a big part of play for some people, so yeah "feels" isn't as discrediting as you think

As for your reaction to me it's great, good stuff, I really like it, I do stuff like that

but if you're scum it's going to make it harder for you because i'm going to get in that ass

if you're town it's going to make it harder for both of us

There were valid concerns raised in my post ie ("why are your scum leans so fake?" "what motivation do i have to pop out of the shadows because user KidAmn posted slightly negatively about me?" which I'd like to see you respond to, but we can do that too
Like you just called my scumread contrived which means you assume everything I say is voided from the get-go because it's against you. Its ok. We got all night.
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Post Post #2233 (isolation #44) » Tue Apr 04, 2017 10:05 am

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In post 2229, inspectorscout wrote:
Heads up again - tomorrow is chem exam so after I finish these votecounts you'll have to do without me for a while. Don't mess up while I'm gone.

Manufacture some amphetamines for us
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In post 2228, MathBlade wrote:@Kid -- I don't have a team yet.
In Civ Mafia I started with a team and was wrong.

I have lots of TRs though and am working through PoE since my Beeboy Sondam Leonshade reads were right I would start with a minor push of my scumreads and what I have seen is ugly.
I have asked you several times to clarify your claimed Clumsy townread since I think that's incompatible with their ISO.

Zach, Kid, everyone else: do you not think that it's a problem that they claimed a Clumsy townread with no explanation?

Zach I can understand the TR but they ALSO claimed them as hard town with absolutely ZERO explanation and they should be forced to answer for that.
Math definitely should answer but I feel that this phenomena can be explained with "the Mathblade effect"
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Post Post #2251 (isolation #45) » Tue Apr 04, 2017 10:20 am

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I'm not even tunneled on you guy I just did a case I didn't do before

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In post 2223, Zachstralkita wrote:RE: 2217:

Tone and gut is a big part of play for some people, so yeah "feels" isn't as discrediting as you think

As for your reaction to me it's great, good stuff, I really like it, I do stuff like that

but if you're scum it's going to make it harder for you because i'm going to get in that ass

if you're town it's going to make it harder for both of us

There were valid concerns raised in my post ie ("why are your scum leans so fake?" "what motivation do i have to pop out of the shadows because user KidAmn posted slightly negatively about me?" which I'd like to see you respond to, but we can do that too
I can't really address "why are your scum leans so fake?" because... they're not? I don't really cling to the false idol of consistency, you have to approach Mafia with an open mind, especially when all 3 of your SRs D1 flip town?
As for "what motivation do i have to pop out of the shadows because user KidAmn posted slightly negatively about me?" it's more like "what motivation do I have to actually get off my ass and contribute to town rather than skimming along D1", because that's what my lean on you D1 was based on - you popped in and poked at things without engaging. You're engaging now, misguidedly, but you're doing it. Now let's hunt some scum, and you can eat ass later if you're good, k?
I posted as much as I felt I needed to Day 1 which is very, very sparsely.

Your posts relating to me after I dropped the vote were all along the lines of OMGUS or in the same field. So no, the question is still one you should be asking yourself. This is cute, though. We should start a book club or something.

Also my point about your scum leans was:

"Aelita - inactivity

Zachstralkita - inactivity "
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Post Post #2266 (isolation #46) » Tue Apr 04, 2017 11:40 am

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In post 2261, drealmerz7 wrote:why do people overreact so fucking much when I talk possibilities?

OHNO HE MENTIONED A POSSIBILITY!

Lmfao cause you're a funny guy
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Post Post #2267 (isolation #47) » Tue Apr 04, 2017 11:45 am

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KidAmn, I have passively spoken on it. Once.

Maria wagon is nonsensical fuckery imo really just waiting for Clumsy to appear
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Post Post #2350 (isolation #48) » Tue Apr 04, 2017 11:50 pm

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This makes no logistical sense lmfao Maria just dipped out because she doesnt want to play here..... scum Maria would have fought it hard I believe

The Bulge wrote:Everyone needs to get the fuck off of maria I can't even begin to wrap my head around how that wagon is still a thing

I will likely only vote between clumsy and gerry today since there is absolutely 0 chance any of my other scumreads will see rope today.
Yea idk

You want to get on Clumsy
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Post Post #2478 (isolation #49) » Wed Apr 05, 2017 9:53 am

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VOTE: Clumsy

4 goddamn votes
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Post Post #2482 (isolation #50) » Wed Apr 05, 2017 10:36 am

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gigabyteTroubadour wrote:
In post 2478, Zachstralkita wrote:VOTE: Clumsy

4 goddamn votes
well that's interesting

what convinced you to move off kid and vote with him?
I mean well I'd like to keep an open mind, I may have given the impression that kidamn was danger zone level scum but my thoughts are far more fluid than that


I'd like to not have Maria lynched, it doesn't seem smart.

I'm also confused by momo acting like there's a granite-solid case on Maria.
In post 2349, Clumsy wrote:
In post 2345, MathBlade wrote:@The Budge -- I agree it isn't the only scumhunting tool. Both you and RT hydra have said I have only presented meta as a case. Do I need to present it again?

@Clumsy so you believe RT hydra's fakeclaim?
Why would I believe that? It's obviously fake.

In post 2186, Clumsy wrote:
Maria is scum, easy as that. You don't just give up like that, self vote, then come back later with a doctor claim. None of her play indicates doctor. It's a scum fake claim to try to get them off the hook/draw out a CC from the real doctor, if there is one.
Nothing you've said here has incorporated anything relating to Maria's personality/tone/style etc and how it would factor in to her claim and the which I think, you would have to consider in order to make a determination on Maria's alignment.

I really think Maria doesn't give a fuck here, anyway. It doesn't read scum to me. She also almost like replaced out twice. I think this game kinda pissed her off anyway.

drealmerz is still stuck in the hyperbolic time chamber of AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAE SELFVOTE and we can't do a lot about that.

I don't even have a lot of games with Math but I know they probably won't flip on that read until they're proven wrong, (or right), but you know we have the textbook to refer to
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Post Post #2609 (isolation #51) » Sun Apr 09, 2017 5:57 am

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Get the fuck out of here guy Maria slot was obv town
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Post Post #2610 (isolation #52) » Sun Apr 09, 2017 5:58 am

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Clumsy vote incoming probably
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Post Post #2652 (isolation #53) » Mon Apr 10, 2017 7:42 am

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VOTE: Clumsy
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Post Post #2672 (isolation #54) » Mon Apr 10, 2017 11:08 am

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I'm not really lurking. there's nothing I need to contribute. We're just doing today what should have originally been done yesterday.
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Post Post #2676 (isolation #55) » Mon Apr 10, 2017 12:29 pm

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In post 2626, momo wrote:
In post 2607, MathBlade wrote:VOTE: KidAmn

Fuck it. Policy til you fix your shit right now. I play mafia to get better socially.

However insulting the player BEHIND the screen is never something allowed so you can apologize or my vote stays.
Am I the only one who is noticing a request for a policy lynch. Either way, from what I have seen in this game and others, Math's anger seems to be a way to cover up his scumminess. I mean the fact that he continues to be this angry at multiple people and still has not replaced out in frustration is pathetically fake. I just do not believe him, and for that reason, I will place my vote on him.

VOTE: MathBlade

This logic doesn't make sense and I can't tell if you're stretching or you actually believe this

Do "other games" really hold this to be true?
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Post Post #2680 (isolation #56) » Mon Apr 10, 2017 12:55 pm

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In post 2677, momo wrote:By other games I mean that I have never seen math start crying as town.

He is trying to make sure we do not lynch him.

Just because you don't get pissed off like that doesn't mean other people are the same

I didn't think the KidAmn vote was constructive but whatever
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Post Post #2684 (isolation #57) » Mon Apr 10, 2017 1:25 pm

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In post 2682, MathBlade wrote:
In post 2680, Zachstralkita wrote:
In post 2677, momo wrote:By other games I mean that I have never seen math start crying as town.

He is trying to make sure we do not lynch him.

Just because you don't get pissed off like that doesn't mean other people are the same

I didn't think the KidAmn vote was constructive but whatever
It was done of anger and after some time away I unvoted.
Oh I'm aware, I don't think that he is.
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Post Post #2704 (isolation #58) » Tue Apr 11, 2017 12:58 pm

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yo bulge, you want to link tonight?

if bulge is taken, dreal you want to link?
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Post Post #2980 (isolation #59) » Mon Apr 17, 2017 3:37 pm

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Hello sorry have not caught up and activity will be sparse but I'll try!'!
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Post Post #3092 (isolation #60) » Thu Apr 20, 2017 6:24 am

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I should be able to actually play now, would someone like to give me a few bullet points on what's been going on
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Post Post #3113 (isolation #61) » Thu Apr 20, 2017 9:54 am

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KidAmn's role makes sense. His play would indicate to me that he is not scum.
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Post Post #3164 (isolation #62) » Fri Apr 21, 2017 2:39 am

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In post 3151, drealmerz7 wrote:my new mafia phrase instead of raging at ppl

"what crack are you smoking?"
Bro I been saying that I sometimes alternate with like pcp or flintstone vitamins and incorporate various crack related items like tinfoil
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Post Post #3165 (isolation #63) » Fri Apr 21, 2017 2:41 am

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Omg Rip bulge I'm sorry I didn't link you I thought because you didn't respond during the day when I asked you didn't see it
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Post Post #3182 (isolation #64) » Fri Apr 21, 2017 6:21 am

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In post 3173, drealmerz7 wrote:if I had to pick a scumteam it would be:

vecna
mathblade
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For what reason?
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Post Post #3250 (isolation #65) » Fri Apr 21, 2017 10:20 am

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YO FFS KID is town
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Post Post #3287 (isolation #66) » Sat Apr 22, 2017 1:40 am

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Folks we gotta clarify, I'm not a "lurker". I'm just very strategically precise with my speech.
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Post Post #3290 (isolation #67) » Sat Apr 22, 2017 1:50 am

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In post 3288, drealmerz7 wrote:
In post 3287, Zachstralkita wrote:Folks we gotta clarify, I'm not a "lurker". I'm just very strategically precise with my speech.
nah, pretty sure at this point you'd be trying to gamesolve and being a lot more vocal with some reads if you were town

you're my #1 scumlean in the lurkerlist

Null. Real life shit has prevented me from investing time into this game, which is regrettable. You can see I took VLA. I've stated (at face value) that kid is fucking town. He is not the lynch. I'm scoping my lens onto the whole MathBlade situation atm.
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Post Post #3292 (isolation #68) » Sat Apr 22, 2017 2:49 am

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Gerry is a fine lynch, though I wouldn't say ideal at this exact moment.
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Post Post #3329 (isolation #69) » Sat Apr 22, 2017 10:43 am

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In post 3324, gerryoat wrote:
In post 3292, Zachstralkita wrote:Gerry is a fine lynch, though I wouldn't say ideal at this exact moment.
lol, this iss scummm

lol, it's notttttttttt
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Post Post #3404 (isolation #70) » Sun Apr 23, 2017 6:07 am

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Yes I am the reflection
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Post Post #3488 (isolation #71) » Mon Apr 24, 2017 9:09 am

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yeah let's get that lurky fuck
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Post Post #3523 (isolation #72) » Mon Apr 24, 2017 10:17 am

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In post 3490, KidAmn wrote:
In post 3488, Zachstralkita wrote:yeah let's get that lurky fuck
Act 4, Scene 19

Enter POT.

POT: Lo, Kettle, 'tis I, Pot.

KETTLE stands silent.

POT: Kettle, I name thee black and curse thee!

KETTLE stands silent.

Exeunt POT.

Act 4, Scene 21

Open on KETTLE, standing silent. They rouse from slumber.

KETTLE: uh that candlestick looks bad but I guess they might not be idk bye
it was ironic haha good shit tho
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Post Post #3527 (isolation #73) » Mon Apr 24, 2017 10:33 am

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VOTE: gerry

I'm cool voting here. You guys should too, he's been a scumread of mine and I think his behavioral patterns are suspect. And ofc hes on math LMAO

Note that if this was something that could be explained easily I would explain it. at all. I cant tho. drealmerz, elaborate on your read on this man please.

I don't know why the fuck we have the two main wagons as Math and Titus, but fuck off. Even if you think I'm full of shit, gerry's still a better lynch..

Math Sword is town. We have a Math vs Titus here.

Tunneled Titus if wrong can drive the game off the tracks into a canyon filled with dynamite.

And I'm pretty sure tunneled Math can do the same.


Yo we should not lynch in most of who are considered "lurkers" before actives on this day imo. It seems like a waste.

momo should be deadline if need be...
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Post Post #3530 (isolation #74) » Mon Apr 24, 2017 10:39 am

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Hey counterpart, you want to link tonight?

It's cool if you have more important things to do.
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Post Post #3534 (isolation #75) » Mon Apr 24, 2017 10:49 am

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drealmerz7 wrote:ya that rush on gerry over momo is smellypoo
random was the spark, but I am the can of gasoline needed for the gerry wagon. and I said I'm fine with momo's death.

I suspect resistance but we'll probably have the main wagons be momo vs gerry which is better imo. It's sort of like the collapse of the Soviet Union.
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Post Post #3545 (isolation #76) » Mon Apr 24, 2017 11:02 am

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In post 3538, MathBlade wrote:
In post 3527, Zachstralkita wrote:VOTE: gerry

I'm cool voting here. You guys should too, he's been a scumread of mine and I think his behavioral patterns are suspect. And ofc hes on math LMAO

Note that if this was something that could be explained easily I would explain it. at all. I cant tho. drealmerz, elaborate on your read on this man please.

I don't know why the fuck we have the two main wagons as Math and Titus, but fuck off. Even if you think I'm full of shit, gerry's still a better lynch..

Math Sword is town. We have a Math vs Titus here.

Tunneled Titus if wrong can drive the game off the tracks into a canyon filled with dynamite.

And I'm pretty sure tunneled Math can do the same.


Yo we should not lynch in most of who are considered "lurkers" before actives on this day imo. It seems like a waste.

momo should be deadline if need be...
If I think you're full of shit then why would I agree with who is a better lynch?

Who the fuck is Sword?

And I can either drive it correctly ET or the Open. Or I can drive it wrong like Civ.
What matters is reading people and I am getting better at it.

TLDR Zach is still full of crap Titus is obvScum lynch Titus.
One of the wagons I'm trying to stop happening is yours, so you can take that either way.

Anyway, it wasn't an insult. your two personalities. colliding. now just imagine if you're both wrong. imagine how much shit that is.
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Post Post #3546 (isolation #77) » Mon Apr 24, 2017 11:04 am

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MathBlade wrote:
In post 3536, drealmerz7 wrote:*nod*

I do like the idea of both of them being CWs to each other

let's see where the rest fall
I absolutely agree with Titus being scum and me being Town.

If I have to I will go down with this ship :)
MathBlade wrote:Neither. We have three days left. More than enough time to lynch scum Titus. I am on the wagon block. I don't compromise to someone just to say my own ass with three days left. Plenty of time.

Hmm.. I see what we're going up against here.


drealmerz... we have to fuse
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Post Post #3549 (isolation #78) » Mon Apr 24, 2017 11:35 am

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I was talking about this sort of fusion

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Post Post #3560 (isolation #79) » Mon Apr 24, 2017 11:28 pm

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My claim is uncontested and I have a mirror role. I'm afraid you'll have to find a better reason to scumread me than.. nothing.


You want my flavor too?
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Post Post #3612 (isolation #80) » Tue Apr 25, 2017 7:23 am

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We know.
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Post Post #3650 (isolation #81) » Tue Apr 25, 2017 11:37 am

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In post 3637, Vecna wrote:Zach is probably also a bad idea for a lynch, even though id wish he would do stuff already.

PSA: anyone who's not gonna vote kid you shouldn't consider voting me

I attempted to have the two CWs be decent ones instead of the lynches I thought were absolute shit


this has been a very low energy game for me I'll admit
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Post Post #3657 (isolation #82) » Tue Apr 25, 2017 11:57 am

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In post 3653, gerryoat wrote:VOTE: Zach I actually want this now. Math is likely mafia tho.

The epicmafia guilty should have told me something, but unfortunately you being cop does not make my role not exist.


VOTE: momo
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Post Post #3671 (isolation #83) » Tue Apr 25, 2017 12:54 pm

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In post 3658, gerryoat wrote:what's your claim? i missed it

Mary Wilson, Even-day Encryptor, as long as I am alive all non-factional PTs will remain open on even Days.
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Post Post #3672 (isolation #84) » Tue Apr 25, 2017 12:59 pm

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In post 3662, MathBlade wrote: But then why not CC Vecna?
I was gonna pose this question

I'm going to keep my vote for suspense though
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Post Post #3811 (isolation #85) » Wed Apr 26, 2017 12:26 am

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In post 3774, MathBlade wrote:
In post 3772, Vecna wrote:
In post 3770, MathBlade wrote:
In post 3763, Vecna wrote:Since we allready have 2 cop claims regardless, scum will have plenty of NK targets for the next 2-3 days. We/I need more information to sort out organized night actions. Yes itll mean that scum get to have a good kill now, but itll increase town organization/efficiency and allow us to have a better targeted lynch today.

THE TIME IS HERE. IT IS TIME FOR MASSCLAIMS.


from everyone we need to following information:

Full roleclaim, including requirements for where you need to be to use your abilities.

Location on Night 1/2/3. In some cases it can be acceptable not to provide your location right now, but this probably wont matter to much anyway.

Actions/targets

If I have to pick between you and Gerry I pick Gerry.

I don't accept mass claim from a scumread.
Then get ready to be lynched.
There are two cop claims that need sorting.
One of those two cops is demanding mass claim.

That is sketchy as fuck. You also didn't say so before.

Try to lynch me I dare you.

VOTE: Vecna

Going back to bed again.
Uh... these people don't have to "try" to lynch you
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Post Post #3812 (isolation #86) » Wed Apr 26, 2017 12:42 am

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I don't see how you can get Vecna scum here
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Post Post #3831 (isolation #87) » Wed Apr 26, 2017 2:00 am

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Momo. Paraphrase some of your flavor.


If I'm to take that you're the role that enables mine and KidAmn roles it sounds like complete bullshit.



Vecna, no other abilities on my end.
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Post Post #3832 (isolation #88) » Wed Apr 26, 2017 2:01 am

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In post 3819, momo wrote:I fully believe in claiming as Vecna is right. Scum has Lynch targets. Town has very little information. I hard claim reality chat enabler. As long as I am alive, people can talk in reality.
momo wrote:For as long as I am alive, I enable role(s) that allow reality communication during the day.

Almost word for word there. I have to leave now though. See y'all around 11:30 maybe

These sound like two different things. I'm probably nitpicking.
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Post Post #3834 (isolation #89) » Wed Apr 26, 2017 2:07 am

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My role is not bound to R/VR

Only in the sense that I have to be in one of those locations to vote, and one of those locations for my ability to work.

Basically, I just have to be alive.

So momo's role being confined to reality is off
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Post Post #3838 (isolation #90) » Wed Apr 26, 2017 2:12 am

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ALL non-factional PTs remain open on even days.

That would mean my role affects both "areas" of this game by default


Mine and kids role are mirrors - momo is either claiming to be a precursor for our roles to work(See 3628) OR he's a full power version of my role limited to reality.

It def sounds like a fake claim. For one, if he enabled our roles it would mean that he could have died day 1 and both mine and kids roles would be half way broken...? Or just useless.. making us like VTs? Which sounds dumb.

And the only reality thing is, again, sketch.
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Post Post #3841 (isolation #91) » Wed Apr 26, 2017 2:18 am

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My vote's already there I'm fine with a hammer


No rush though.. this should be interesting
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Post Post #3854 (isolation #92) » Wed Apr 26, 2017 3:05 am

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Idk Vecna, the way kid claimed and his tone this whole game says town to me. Both of our roles making town stacked doesn't hold a lot of weight to me.
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Post Post #3859 (isolation #93) » Wed Apr 26, 2017 3:20 am

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dreal you realize talking about other people's egos the way you do is an ego trap right
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Post Post #3862 (isolation #94) » Wed Apr 26, 2017 4:15 am

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So why does he opt for the momo bus today then when there's no need at all for it on this day when we had Titus math wagons
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Post Post #3877 (isolation #95) » Wed Apr 26, 2017 5:01 am

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In post 3872, momo wrote:
This should confirm me as town because I got a pm from the mod explaining a town PR.
You should understand that can't "clear" you because we don't know what the mod has or hasn't done
momo wrote:Why would scum enabler town roles chat???

Am I missing something?

This is bold though
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Post Post #3935 (isolation #96) » Wed Apr 26, 2017 6:07 am

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In post 3928, drealmerz7 wrote:I just can't figure out why she wouldn't come up with a better fakeclaim

with some details and stuff

Cause she's not scum prolly
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Post Post #3958 (isolation #97) » Wed Apr 26, 2017 7:14 am

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In post 3953, KidAmn wrote:
In post 3838, Zachstralkita wrote:ALL non-factional PTs remain open on even days.

That would mean my role affects both "areas" of this game by default


Mine and kids role are mirrors - momo is either claiming to be a precursor for our roles to work(See 3628) OR he's a full power version of my role limited to reality.

It def sounds like a fake claim. For one, if he enabled our roles it would mean that he could have died day 1 and both mine and kids roles would be half way broken...? Or just useless.. making us like VTs? Which sounds dumb.

And the only reality thing is, again, sketch.
I can confirm that the wording Zach has given for his role's ability is identical to mine, with "even" switched out for "odd" in my case. Momo's claim categorically does not make sense outside of being, say, a scum day-chat enabler.
In post 3924, Vecna wrote:Hmm, so far everyone has had an occupation in their role pm.
Ooh, that gives me a thought.
Zach: what's your occupation within Simotech? I'll post mine, but I want to see if something lines up.
(inb4 "you just want to make your claim match" because holy shit I already did all this 20+ pages ago.

Sergeant, project control project ARCH
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Post Post #3959 (isolation #98) » Wed Apr 26, 2017 7:15 am

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I'm single I like baking and long walks on the beach
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Post Post #3962 (isolation #99) » Wed Apr 26, 2017 7:18 am

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What THE FUCK I SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN CATS GIRLS AND CATGIRLS IN MY PM
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Post Post #3972 (isolation #100) » Wed Apr 26, 2017 7:26 am

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Why hasnt momo given his Simotech flavor... fuck
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Post Post #3975 (isolation #101) » Wed Apr 26, 2017 7:36 am

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Can we have momo's employee number too?
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Post Post #4009 (isolation #102) » Wed Apr 26, 2017 9:20 am

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He doesn't want to fullclaim because

A) He's scum and is going to bullshit something about his role that Vecna can in some capacity cross check


or

B) Because we're assholes he doesn't want to cooperate with us and somehow thinks this benefits town yet encourages us to lynch him which theoretically would NOT benefit town

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In post 4001, gerryoat wrote:if you wanna lynch the cop who had a guilty on scum and clearly softed it. and is clearly the BG save, then you're really bad
there's absolutley zero point to not sharing more info at this point though
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Post Post #4013 (isolation #103) » Wed Apr 26, 2017 9:29 am

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So again we should fucking decide between momo and gerry. And make an actual decision

I would like momo's flavor


gerry has no reason not to give the rest of his claim so I have no issue with voting there
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Post Post #4021 (isolation #104) » Wed Apr 26, 2017 9:34 am

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KidAmn wrote:
Vote: Momo


This claim appears to directly contradict mine and Zachs, mine and Zach's flavour lines up directly (both reference Project ARCH) and Momo's makes zero fucking sense when 2 roles that keep PTs open exist, sooooooooooooooo

yeah

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And if hes town I dont give a fuck we never saw him in the Project ARCH break room and the motherfucker certainly never contributed to the annual Project ARCH potluck
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Post Post #4036 (isolation #105) » Fri Apr 28, 2017 10:31 am

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Math, that was the dumbest thing I've read this whole fucking game.
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Post Post #4037 (isolation #106) » Fri Apr 28, 2017 10:32 am

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Kid and I are basically conf...
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Post Post #4039 (isolation #107) » Fri Apr 28, 2017 10:34 am

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In post 3671, Zachstralkita wrote:
In post 3658, gerryoat wrote:what's your claim? i missed it

Mary Wilson, Even-day Encryptor, as long as I am alive all non-factional PTs will remain open on even Days.

HE IS MY ODD DAY COUNTERPART.
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Post Post #4042 (isolation #108) » Fri Apr 28, 2017 10:35 am

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In post 3958, Zachstralkita wrote:
In post 3953, KidAmn wrote:
In post 3838, Zachstralkita wrote:ALL non-factional PTs remain open on even days.

That would mean my role affects both "areas" of this game by default


Mine and kids role are mirrors - momo is either claiming to be a precursor for our roles to work(See 3628) OR he's a full power version of my role limited to reality.

It def sounds like a fake claim. For one, if he enabled our roles it would mean that he could have died day 1 and both mine and kids roles would be half way broken...? Or just useless.. making us like VTs? Which sounds dumb.

And the only reality thing is, again, sketch.
I can confirm that the wording Zach has given for his role's ability is identical to mine, with "even" switched out for "odd" in my case. Momo's claim categorically does not make sense outside of being, say, a scum day-chat enabler.
In post 3924, Vecna wrote:Hmm, so far everyone has had an occupation in their role pm.
Ooh, that gives me a thought.
Zach: what's your occupation within Simotech? I'll post mine, but I want to see if something lines up.
(inb4 "you just want to make your claim match" because holy shit I already did all this 20+ pages ago.

Sergeant, project control project ARCH


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Post Post #4045 (isolation #109) » Fri Apr 28, 2017 10:38 am

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In post 3960, KidAmn wrote:
In post 3958, Zachstralkita wrote:
In post 3953, KidAmn wrote:
In post 3838, Zachstralkita wrote:ALL non-factional PTs remain open on even days.

That would mean my role affects both "areas" of this game by default


Mine and kids role are mirrors - momo is either claiming to be a precursor for our roles to work(See 3628) OR he's a full power version of my role limited to reality.

It def sounds like a fake claim. For one, if he enabled our roles it would mean that he could have died day 1 and both mine and kids roles would be half way broken...? Or just useless.. making us like VTs? Which sounds dumb.

And the only reality thing is, again, sketch.
I can confirm that the wording Zach has given for his role's ability is identical to mine, with "even" switched out for "odd" in my case. Momo's claim categorically does not make sense outside of being, say, a scum day-chat enabler.
In post 3924, Vecna wrote:Hmm, so far everyone has had an occupation in their role pm.
Ooh, that gives me a thought.
Zach: what's your occupation within Simotech? I'll post mine, but I want to see if something lines up.
(inb4 "you just want to make your claim match" because holy shit I already did all this 20+ pages ago.

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Sergeant, lead developer Project ARCH. Currently dating multiple women, I love cats, girls, and... a mix of the two.

Cool, as far as I'm concerned barring some serious fuckery Zach is town.

Our flavor matches. Our abilities are the same except he is on Odd days.


Momo's role says "Reality communications" KEYWORD FUCKING REALITY.


Mine and Kids role's are for ALL NON FACTIONAL PTs in BOTH VR and Reality.

pedit... Math.. reading comprehension.. please.
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Post Post #4046 (isolation #110) » Fri Apr 28, 2017 10:39 am

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You realize the fucking difference between momo's pm and our claim if you READ.
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Post Post #4047 (isolation #111) » Fri Apr 28, 2017 10:39 am

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In post 4044, KidAmn wrote:I have literally claimed flavour and power consistent with AN EXACT MIRROR OF MY ROLE, UNPROMPTED (and Zach's claim was forced out of him somewhat by events) and you're still going to do this? Fuck you. Get out of the game. You're either scum, or playing in a manner so (to paraphrase from RC) antithetical to the town's wincon that you need to die.

Not necessary tho bro
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Post Post #4048 (isolation #112) » Fri Apr 28, 2017 10:40 am

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I'm not trying to be so aggressive but FUCK.


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Post Post #4050 (isolation #113) » Fri Apr 28, 2017 10:41 am

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See because I actually think MathBlade believes what they said
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Post Post #4053 (isolation #114) » Fri Apr 28, 2017 10:42 am

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MOMO'S ROLE SAYS ENABLES COMMUNICATIONS IN REALITY


OUR CLAIMS DO NOT SPECIFY, except for the word "ALL" non factional PTs which means in BOTH worlds

momo's claim is bound to ONE world. REALITY.
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Post Post #4055 (isolation #115) » Fri Apr 28, 2017 10:45 am

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Kid would have to die for his ability to stop working.. so would I... it's passive


Vecna got KILLED in one world, you do realize that, right?

All someone has to do is confirm they're in a PT today...
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Post Post #4058 (isolation #116) » Fri Apr 28, 2017 10:47 am

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Am I in the Twilight Zone.
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Post Post #4067 (isolation #117) » Fri Apr 28, 2017 10:52 am

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I have a fucking headache.


Hey can someone STATE IF THEY'RE IN A PT RIGHT NOW... just one person.
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Post Post #4077 (isolation #118) » Fri Apr 28, 2017 11:00 am

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Flavor doesn't make sense for Kid to be scum lol

We have the same occupation which is a division or something that is still active.. operational. We're literally still working for Simotech right now

In all the scum PMs the interface was hacked into...



You realize Kid being scum means momos role never had to exist? Did you ever think of that? momo's role is like a nerfed version of what Kid has.
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Post Post #4078 (isolation #119) » Fri Apr 28, 2017 11:01 am

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I attempted to link with Titus last night like Vecna suggested.

Titus did you attempt to send me a link request,or no?
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Post Post #4089 (isolation #120) » Fri Apr 28, 2017 11:16 am

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If Gamma confirms the PT, it means that Kid(Our) ability is active.

IF the KidAmn/Gamma EmeraldPT is confirmed to be active by GE, Kid cannot be scum. Because our claim specifies that all NON-FACTIONAL PTs will remain open. Scum is a faction.

Math read this post several times
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Post Post #4091 (isolation #121) » Fri Apr 28, 2017 11:18 am

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YOU DIDNT READ THE FUCKING POST MATH
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Post Post #4096 (isolation #122) » Fri Apr 28, 2017 11:20 am

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@Titus: facts. I've been denying it


VOTE: MathBlade
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Post Post #4099 (isolation #123) » Fri Apr 28, 2017 11:21 am

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Yes but only one thing needs to happen for Kid to be cleared of being scum based on the limitations of our role: and he has said it will.
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Post Post #4131 (isolation #124) » Fri Apr 28, 2017 11:43 am

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Really ? We went from conf scum to conf town in one post? Yikes Math.





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Post Post #4132 (isolation #125) » Fri Apr 28, 2017 11:43 am

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Moment of silence.
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Post Post #4134 (isolation #126) » Fri Apr 28, 2017 11:44 am

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You interrupted your own moment of silence...
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Post Post #4145 (isolation #127) » Fri Apr 28, 2017 12:23 pm

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hit the oil pen
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Post Post #4171 (isolation #128) » Sat Apr 29, 2017 3:49 am

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is it l1
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Post Post #4247 (isolation #129) » Mon May 01, 2017 2:25 am

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To state fax Math is probably a bad lynch here but the one that will most likely happen


a GE lynch appeals to me for some reason..
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Post Post #4251 (isolation #130) » Mon May 01, 2017 6:47 am

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In post 4248, MathBlade wrote:
In post 4247, Zachstralkita wrote:To state fax Math is probably a bad lynch here but the one that will most likely happen


a GE lynch appeals to me for some reason..
You say I am a bad lynch. This is accurate.
Who to you is a better lynch?
Gamma idk

I'd say we have to sort you/Titus but the problem is you flipping town doesn't incriminate Titus of anything, you two have been at each other's necks forever
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In post 4248, MathBlade wrote:
In post 4247, Zachstralkita wrote:To state fax Math is probably a bad lynch here but the one that will most likely happen


a GE lynch appeals to me for some reason..
You say I am a bad lynch. This is accurate.
Who to you is a better lynch?
This is why Math is scum. Not scumhunting. Not even reading. Math just wants us to turn on ourselves.

I feel like Math would be trying harder though lol as scum
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Post Post #4253 (isolation #131) » Mon May 01, 2017 6:54 am

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Is Math that bold? The KidAmn push was the derpiest thing I've ever seen

And scum couldn't have expected the TOWN to vote for that lynch... so what in the hell is the point of pushing it besides irrational Math? WIFOM?


The kid wagon was just math... now the wagon is just math and no one's really doing anything to stop it

dreal is voting where he wants to but at this point most people are fine with lynching Math


I feel like scum here is going to let the town fuck up if they're fucking up and interject as needed
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Post Post #4255 (isolation #132) » Mon May 01, 2017 6:58 am

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In post 4202, gerryoat wrote:
In post 4186, KidAmn wrote:So, to be clear: RM and dreal, who would have been left alive in the link, both claim they didn't break it.
gerryoat wrote:was vecna not actually cop? im confused
Results. Now.
honestly, not worth it. just helps mafia

how.. if you're the most likely next target?

Fyi dreal vecna claimed that gerry is vr cop.. and gerry's actions imply he confirms that claim. So do you not believe his role?
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Post Post #4257 (isolation #133) » Mon May 01, 2017 7:04 am

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Would that then mean that a part of the plan hinges on town defending MATHBLADE
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Post Post #4259 (isolation #134) » Mon May 01, 2017 7:08 am

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you've missed the point. gerry is a poor lynch today when we have people whose sorting is of more importance

you realize vecna claimed cop too right, until they shot him? Vecna was probably reality cop?
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Post Post #4261 (isolation #135) » Mon May 01, 2017 7:10 am

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yes he did but we don't know what he actually was

and him saying gerry is vr cop has to be based on something

he could have wanted them to shoot him?
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Post Post #4262 (isolation #136) » Mon May 01, 2017 7:10 am

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or thought that post would have made them not shoot him
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Post Post #4264 (isolation #137) » Mon May 01, 2017 7:21 am

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ok but i'm anticipating a post town flip based off what I said earlier this game about you VS math


scum would want to stop a scum!Math lynch here right

who's trying to stop a math lynch

I am but my vote is on them still, and I'm basically clear so strike me off.

and dreal is voting a vr cop claim, he doesnt count.

that's basically it

What do you think about GAMMA EMERALD if math flips town or as a cw
In post 4196, Randomnamechange wrote:btw vecna was v confident in mathblade town. he had written plans on some stuff we should do today but it relied on math having info in the PT :/
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Post Post #4304 (isolation #138) » Tue May 02, 2017 7:13 am

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VOTE: Gamma
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Post Post #4307 (isolation #139) » Tue May 02, 2017 8:11 am

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See the first step to having a semi-successful rebel organization is picking a name motherfuckers can actually say. No ones screaming IUSTITTa in the middle of a firefight. You know how much fucking syllables that is.

I mean Simotech is a piece of shit but these employee benefits are TOP NOTCH.
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Post Post #4324 (isolation #140) » Tue May 02, 2017 12:11 pm

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Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2658, gerryoat wrote:After investigations, I suspect Clusmy is sided with the mafia.
This is the post I remembered fyi
This is the first thing you address, and not the fact that you're Math's CW and a likelier lynch today?
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Post Post #4327 (isolation #141) » Tue May 02, 2017 12:25 pm

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The MathBlade lynch is like a boulder down a hill, it will be complete at some point, sure

However on the way down the hill we still have time to stone you. Multiple times. To death.
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Post Post #4329 (isolation #142) » Tue May 02, 2017 12:28 pm

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The analogy would work if Math joined the GE wagon
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Post Post #4338 (isolation #143) » Tue May 02, 2017 12:49 pm

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VOTE: MathBlade


Smarter to resolve this today. I want GE tomo tho
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Post Post #4347 (isolation #144) » Wed May 03, 2017 10:33 am

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but then we have another day of the Titus/Math extravaganza...
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Post Post #4350 (isolation #145) » Wed May 03, 2017 10:34 am

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drealmerz7 wrote:I think it is titus+gerry at this point
motherfucker didnt you think it was vecna yesterday?
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Post Post #4354 (isolation #146) » Wed May 03, 2017 10:41 am

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how much MLs we got left?
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Post Post #4358 (isolation #147) » Wed May 03, 2017 10:45 am

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UNVOTE:
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Post Post #4401 (isolation #148) » Thu May 04, 2017 7:37 am

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Don't you think the whole gerry LYING about his role thing is probably a misnomer? As in the cop/investigative term thing is just a name that was said because there's not a NAME for his actual role (he locates people in certain locations based on the flavor of this game?)


And when math asks him about his LYING he responds:

In post 4392, gerryoat wrote:what reason do i have to lie? kid and titus will confirm that's where they were

Which indicates he doesn't know what you're accusing him of... because he's not responding like it at all


That's what it looks like to me..

Just saying.. like I obviously don't think he's scum, I'm saying this for KidAmn/dreal/etc


random, I'll be on whatever lynch you settle on today we seem to be rolling with a similar

If we resolve Math/Titus there has to be some thought put into it
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Post Post #4448 (isolation #149) » Fri May 05, 2017 11:51 am

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i want to see the "cop claim" random made so I can determine how hard I slam my mouse when I vote gamma
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Post Post #4451 (isolation #150) » Fri May 05, 2017 1:20 pm

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Can someone quote the post in question please? I can't seem to find it.
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Post Post #4453 (isolation #151) » Fri May 05, 2017 1:51 pm

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Automatic L

VOTE: GE
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Post Post #4499 (isolation #152) » Mon May 08, 2017 6:33 am

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GGWP


Spectacular flavor. Nomination worthy
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Post Post #4500 (isolation #153) » Mon May 08, 2017 6:34 am

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Lmfao hilarious how I was pushing kid early game and he was my mirror role
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Post Post #4537 (isolation #154) » Mon May 08, 2017 10:33 am

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Lmfaoo
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Post Post #4543 (isolation #155) » Mon May 08, 2017 11:11 am

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Victorique from Gosick.
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Post Post #4549 (isolation #156) » Mon May 08, 2017 12:09 pm

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Again, great game and flavor. scout hmu if you do the sequel

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