Night and Day Mafia (Game Over)

[Ginngie]

IM POSTING IN THE THREAD WITHOUT CONFIRMING MY ROLE WOOOOOOOOOOO

[Ginngie]

<3

[Ginngie]

POWERLYNCH LE GO

VOTE: 79

[Ginngie]

wut

[Ginngie]

I'm gonna NK you :3

[Ginngie]

pew pew

[Ginngie]

That's an Ari post lmao

[Ginngie]

while it's pre-game, can all hydras do the ego posting so we dont deal with it later?

[Ginngie]

ya know

I feel like I'm lacking common sense right now

I was like, why is bulba stating he is on the dark side

and then I realized I know who is on the light, meaning everyone else is dark

[Ginngie]

I hear some heathens dont use mafBlack

[Ginngie]

I hear some heathens dont use mafBlack

I'm going to dance naked around a bonfire later. You in?

Only if you let me bring the glo paint

[Ginngie]

Gin, out of curiosity, how much has Eddie posted in the Light?

P-edit: Deal.

One post and he's golden ponyboy

[Ginngie]

VOTE: Aronis

[Ginngie]

sorry boo, CE is a soul read

[Ginngie]

MASTINA STOP

[Ginngie]

PAGE TOP

[Ginngie]

STEALER

[Ginngie]

Okay

for real tho

I can understand the ability to town read Aronis

however

a scumread on CE

I'm wondering where that came from

[Ginngie]

You don't interact with the lurker on your wagon who is opportunistic as fuck (Rautherdir),

Did you see my vote?

[Ginngie]

@Eddie, why shouldn't we lynch you for saying the word traitor?

Why is the word traitor a bad thing to you?

Town has no logical reason to consider one and sparking said conversation can easily be a crumb.

So again, why shouldn't we lynch you for it?

lol Math, I didn't know we could change usernames

[Ginngie]

You don't interact with the lurker on your wagon who is opportunistic as fuck (Rautherdir),

Did you see my vote?

Yes. You voted Aronis. I am not sure what you are getting at?

I mean, a name drop would have been nice

You're talking about Rauth or something and I dropped an L-3 naked vote first post of the game and then left lmfao

[Ginngie]

Your naked vote wasn't on the most popular wagon and you explained it by the time I woke up.

0.o

Aronis - 7 (Gamma Emerald, Vedith, Rautherdir, Keyent Think, BTD6_maker, Frosted Kelvin Bran,

Ginngie

)

and where have I explained a read on Aronis?

[Ginngie]

okay, so i can understand why someone can townread,how does that translate into me explaining my vote on Aronis and follow up, if I can understand why he can be a town read, why not ask me why I dont take off my vote?

[Ginngie]

This is a weird concern, but it concerns me that you're not pressing me at all, there are so many questions or sorting that can be done that's just tossed aside.

[Ginngie]

So none of what I did was scummy

why is that?

[Ginngie]

So naked voting with no reasoning to put someone at L-3 and never giving a reason or a read on Aronis, to you, is not scummy at all?

[Ginngie]

Why are you getting annoyed so quickly?

[Ginngie]

what if


what you're calling as nonsense

is me sorting you

._.

[Ginngie]

If you're going to act like a parent at least keep the scolding to the PT lol

[Ginngie]

If you're going to act like a parent at least keep the scolding to the PT lol

Tvt grandstanding tbh.

Why would Math feel you're town enough to intercede while whining you have no reads?

That's a good point

VOTE: Math

:3

[Ginngie]

Math I'll meet you on Rust, 1v1 me lego

[Ginngie]

Bulba, has Ari been talking a lot?

[Ginngie]

By ari do you mean aronis or the aristophones / nancy hydra

Ari is Ari, Aronis is Aronis

[Ginngie]

It's so annoying that you dont find anything about my play scummy.

[Ginngie]

Besides thinking it, can you elaborate on why I'm town, and not because I annoy you, that's not a true reason

[Ginngie]

Wait, so I'm town because I just spew bravado?

[Ginngie]

Both of you knock it off please. You two going back and forth like this for a long time isn't constructive.

I am going to bed and I don't want to come home after work with 30 pages to read.

this is a good town post

How does that make Math town

[Ginngie]

If we have a vig, Vedith is a good shot.

[Ginngie]

Math

what are

your reads

[Ginngie]

think, you've given no thoughts on the game so far

[Ginngie]

Ari babe, talk to meh

[Ginngie]

nancy, I need an Ari

[Ginngie]

btw gin the fact that you've been sitting on mathblade for this long without moving is kind of scumclaim-y, you shouldn't do stuff like that probably i don't think it's town!you and it kind of spews scum!math a little bit as well (since you'd never tunnel town!math when you know their omgus habits and stuff)

wat

[Ginngie]

where are you getting this meta

[Ginngie]

im so conflicted

[Ginngie]

you

you're scummy as fuck

[Ginngie]

It's like page 18, they're on V/LA but I really want to lynch them

[Ginngie]

VOTE: 79 CE

[Ginngie]

Aronis vote 79 Ce

[Ginngie]

OBJECTION YOUR HONOUR!


Okay so you're saying Rauth bussed

but that's a pre-flip

and those are shit

soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

[Ginngie]

I think the vote on Aronis by Rauth was a scummy bus. (Although when I voted Rauth I didn't have an Aronis read).

Wait

so you're saying Rauth as scum, voted their scumbud, but you didn't have a read on Aronis to think Aronis was a bus vote.


Basically that's like going 2+?=4

[Ginngie]

Did you not just say you didn't have a read on Aronis when you voted Rauth?

That means during the vote, you didn't think Aronis was scum at the time of the vote. That it came afterwards.

[Ginngie]

YET

YOU THINK

IT'S A SCUM BUS

BECAUSE YOU SCUM READ THEM INDEPENDENTLY

[Ginngie]

OKAY Im gonna put it all in one post

[Ginngie]

I am drawing the conclusion Rauth bussed because I have independent scumreads on both Rauth and Aronis.

I think the vote on Aronis by Rauth was a scummy bus. (Although when I voted Rauth I didn't have an Aronis read).

In these two statements, it says two things
That Titus voted Rauth
the reason

Spoiler: Rauth was bussing Aronis

I think the vote on Aronis by Rauth was a scummy bus.

Spoiler: She says she delcares it was a bus vote because of two independent scum reads

I am drawing the conclusion Rauth bussed because I have independent scumreads on both Rauth and Aronis.

However

Spoiler: Titus stated that she didn't have an Aronis read at the time she voted Rauth

(Although when I voted Rauth I didn't have an Aronis read).

In conclusion if this isn't clear, Titus

HAD

to have Aronis as a scum read for her progression to line up, however

SHE DID NOT

have a read on Aronis at the time of the vote.

So, Titus' read progression is

faked

.

[Ginngie]

FUCKING LMAO

[Ginngie]

Titus I have your own words in how you describe it. I'm not going to argue with you because I can't convince you that you're scum lol

[Ginngie]

you're not voting CE why?

[Ginngie]

79 CE - 8 (Bulbazak, Therealzeus, texcat, Mathblade, Frosted Kelvin Bran, Gamma Emerald, Ginngie, Aronis)

Gee I don't fucking know

[Ginngie]

Why is Titus a town read

[Ginngie]

so post 482 means nothing to you

[Ginngie]

How is it a stretch?

[Ginngie]

Did Titus have a scum read on Aronis before voting Rauth yes or no? (hint the answer is no)

[Ginngie]

Titus votes Rauth and says Rauth is bussing Aronis, but doesn't have a read on Aronis.

How is that not clearly contradictory.

[Ginngie]

I ask you, how can Titus judge sayinng two people are scum together and one is bussing the other when only ONE read exists?

[Ginngie]

You've got to be fucking kidding me

[Ginngie]

Titus is fucking voting Aronis

[Ginngie]

Are you reading the game

[Ginngie]

You just said Titus was town reading Aronis

[Ginngie]

Okay wait a minute

[Ginngie]

I know the feeling of work posting lol

P-edit: Dude I only have so many fingers

P-edit: LET ME POST IM RE READING

[Ginngie]

By the new look of it:
Aronis!town
Rauth!votes
Rauth!scum
Rauth!scumclaim
A conversation with FKB and votes Aronis
Aronis!scum
says bus vote

[Ginngie]

Wagon built way too fast, CE is town.

NAI

Spoiler:

Subject: Star Wars Rogue One [GAME OVER]

Vote Count 1.01

Pine [6] The Thinker, Aj the Epic, Infinity 324, Desperado, Heartless, PrettyPrincess
SirCakez [3] Drunken Piper, Aeronaut, alban
BBmolla [1] Pine-A-Tonics
ThinkBig [1] KuroiXHF
Infinity 324 [2] SirCakez, Titus
Desperado [1] BBmolla

Not Voting - [3] Klingoncelt, Lil Uzi Vert, Indigo

Rogue Leader Vote:

No one

Mod Notes - May the flavor be with you.

With 17 Alive, It Takes 9 To Lynch.

Day 1 ends in (expired on 2017-01-24 15:26:20)!

Pine-A-Tonics was scum

ask Titus, she was there

as a matter of fact, if you read the first two pages, you'll see that scum was the first RVS vote and first wagon, then turned real for 3 vote counts straight, and those are Firebringer vote counts so you know some good time passed between them :3

[Ginngie]

The more people post "you should just

know

that I'm town" the more I dislike the playerslot.

This kind of rhetoric is silly. If you really expect people to have a confident town read of you less than thirteen pages into a game (if we remove mastina's posts, this thread is probably only at 10, moderator influencing game thread length, tyranny), you are you silly.

While I do believe that confident posting is good, the high level of "I'm right and you should just

get it

" is irritating and needs to stop. If you want to convince me of something, you're going to have to actually provide reasons rather than try to berate me into thinking you're right because the sky is blue, you had a banana for breakfast, and your dog didn't shit on the floor today. Your good mood or overwhelming magical self-confidence and competence is not a reason that I will accept.

Great, I wasn't convincing you.


@Kelvin, Why did you abandon the Aronis wagon with such hostility when you barely got on at the end? Also, I am referring to anyone in the hydra.

In fact, that's so sketchy I will....

VOTE: Aronis

What I seriously don't like is how Titus is questioning FKB here and thinks some bullshit, and then votes Aronis.

Up to this point, Titus had Aronis as a good noodle but because FKB is scummy to her or something, she votes Aronis because of it.

Now explain to me that bullshit

[Ginngie]

You'd be so fucked if Accountant was here

[Ginngie]

You'd be so fucked if Accountant was here

Doubtful.

[Ginngie]

I mean

there is buddying

not truly trying

words

[Ginngie]

Gamma you're gonna be on a lonely island with that scum read :3

[Ginngie]

Oh, i meant his read on me. Sorry I'm egotistical >_>

[Ginngie]

I don't think it's smart to feed the beast that is my untamed ego

[Ginngie]

Yeah I need to get into the habit of quoting the post I respond too as well.

[Ginngie]

V/LA till next Sunday, or the 25th

I'll be able to post before bed and stuff but I'm going to be extremely tied up and right now I gotta drive for 12 hours

<<< Acknowledged. >>>

[Ginngie]

So let it be stated if I'm dead by daylight tomorrow but TB!scum, excluding hydra doesn't post or do shit at all.

I mean if he's town this is literally not an issue and I usually don't press it until future days.

Just a heads up tho

[Ginngie]

EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

[Ginngie]

Spoiler:

MathBlade is sadly scum but I don't quite know how to express this one - it's a combination of a tonal read and a meta read. Their scumgame and their towngame is super super different and it's pretty noticeable to anyone who's familiar with their meta. Basically, the simplest way I can put it is.. if it feels like they're reasonable.. they're scum. If they're butting their heads against a brick wall that is reason, in *defiance* of reason, they're town. So you definitely need to be able to read tone to tell the difference. But you need the meta to *know* the difference, to know what to look for tonally. And they're just scum this game. Sorry Math. <3

Gin isn't *quite* as strong a read for me yet (I'd say Math is a proper scumread, Gin is like, a scumlean?), but basically it's kinda similar to the Math read. I wouldn't say that I can soulread Gin, because that'd be really premature. But I feel like I can sorta spot the differences in their scumgame? I basically felt right from my first interaction with her that she was scum, because if she was town I'd really expect her to come out with some witticism or to curse or to prod me with a question or something totally not game related that was on her mind, but instead she sends me a loveheart and I'm like.. you're not trying to sort me babe, you're trying to suck up to me. She's.... what's the word.. slick? When she's scum. Totally charismatic as both alignments. But her argumentation is a little different as scum. More, uh, distant, explain-y, persuasive. And she can be a bit of a softie when she's scum, even if she definitely does do the abrasive angermoment stuff as scum too. So that loveheart opening was a bit of a scumclaim for me, and the powerlynch le go.. yeah, didn't give me good feels.

I've read pretty much all her games, if that means anything.

Putting it simply, the Math read is a big ball of subjective air that holds no water as it doesn't deal with anything game related or proving the point.

Read on my is again, a "meta" read where of course people can read my games but I have about 4 different playstyles relying on mood :3

Oh, and the only one that will ever soul read me is mastina, it is scary how quick and accurate she is with me lmao

[Ginngie]

EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

Let's take selfies.

I don't think you shit post often but they're always gems

My favorite one was the I'm a bitch, I'm a lover

[Ginngie]

EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

Don't copy me, gives me bad vibes

[Ginngie]

EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

Don't copy me, gives me bad vibes

Said it better than I ever could.

I scumread you as I said in the hood and still do.

You and nancy are likely trying to create discussion around me and bring nancy into it and avoid lynching her. By buddying Titus you can achieve that end.

I'm trying to not lynch nancy?

[Ginngie]

EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

Don't copy me, gives me bad vibes

Said it better than I ever could.

I scumread you as I said in the hood and still do.

You and nancy are likely trying to create discussion around me and bring nancy into it and avoid lynching her. By buddying Titus you can achieve that end.

I'm trying to not lynch nancy?

That isn't what I said. I said you and nancy are trying to talk about me because Titus scumreads me every fucking game. It is a way to distract the lynch off of nancy.

Honey where is my vote

[Ginngie]

Are you doing VCA

without a flip

[Ginngie]

So things are happening and I'm apathetic and stuff

woo

[Ginngie]

/me hugs

Talk to me about your reads Gin! <3

Dont really want too tbh

[Ginngie]

You talk

so much about meta

[Ginngie]

She was town and explained a theory to me last game I played with.

[Ginngie]

Math you're gonna have to take my word for it.

[Ginngie]

10 pages in. Only strong read is TB town.

EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW


SO

WOW

[Ginngie]

10 pages in. Only strong read is TB town.

VOTE: SnarkySnowman

Lol! I have contributed nothing to the game so far (that will change today) I should not be a town read

VOTE: Snarky

TB, I wanna see you put in some work cuz I support this

[Ginngie]

WHAT IF WE BUILD A SNARKY WAGON

[Ginngie]

Embrace it

P-edit: learn to trust what you can't see :3

[Ginngie]

You take one step into darkness and I'll show you the lights

[Ginngie]

Erm...A religious friend of mine converted me with the same phrase in my youth and just within the past few years realized how shitty that is.

Soooo no.

The correct path says so

What if I sang you Lordes new album?

[Ginngie]

Guys we have a problem

[Ginngie]

The problem is Quantum won't let me buddy him to LyLo

[Ginngie]

That moment when two people are scum but it's a TvT :^)

[Ginngie]

Also we are still lynching CE

[Ginngie]

Don't know why it stopped, but it's today's lynch

[Ginngie]

That moment when two people are scum but it's a TvT :^)

i statistically have the worst reads on the TOS playerbase
don't expect much there
I'm really just confused by the interaction

I have a really good scum game, that means I can take what I know is town and can make it look scummy, know what it is basically.

With what I'm doing there is showing that awareness and I question people that don't pick up on certain things, what they do and don't find scummy.

Part of my scum read came directly because even after blatantly laying it all out, nothing was done. I had to press her, to try and press me.

[Ginngie]

Who am I voting?

[Ginngie]

Oh yeah snarky, and that's cuz he town reads TB, for no reason.VOTE: TB

[Ginngie]

Lmao I'm such an indecisive little Bitch

Anywhooooo, blah blah TB blah blah meta blah blah blah promises catch up and won't, blah blah lynch

[Ginngie]

#ButThatsAnEasyWagonSoItMustBeTown

Fuck off a scum lynch is a scum lunch

[Ginngie]

Don't be annoying.

You're being annoying.

Why.

You don't read what's in the ducking page before you post...

[Ginngie]

Don't be annoying.

You're being annoying.

Why.

You don't read what's in the ducking page before you post...

You make a big deal about CE being today's lynch. I ask why you're not voting them, since you were voting Snarky. You say "You're right!", and then proceed to vote TB instead. If CE is as big a scumread as you've been saying, then the whole reasoning of TB not having caught up like he said wouldn't matter. In the realm of scumreads, TB would be a small blip next to the whale that is CE. So it's a reasonable question to ask. Did your read of CE change drastically since #971? And if so, how? CE hasn't posted anything in the interim, and I actually posted the basis of my scumread, so I know it's nothing anybody else said.

Yee, I mean I said I'm indecisive, kinda shows lol

The thing about CE and TB is, CE is off of play that I just doesn't sit well with me but TB is like, uber confident. I just push what's on my mind and it feels P-good

It doesn't make sense from your perspective obviously but I've been playing non stop since our last game and its just staring me in the face easy level

[Ginngie]

Ew

[Ginngie]

<<< ThinkBig has been prodded. He has until this time to post: (expired on 2017-06-25 19:23:28). >>>

Please

guys

for real

It's not that hard

to see

Don't make me spell it out.

I'm too tired right now to whip votes hardcore, just like, do it

[Ginngie]

<<< ThinkBig has been prodded. He has until this time to post: (expired on 2017-06-25 19:23:28). >>>

Please

guys

for real

It's not that hard

to see

Don't make me spell it out.

I'm too tired right now to whip votes hardcore, just like, do it

For the new page so you don't miss it

[Ginngie]

I'll make it simple

please don't make me do a mountain of data to prove this but it's bloody there.

TB doesn't post as scums

TB posts as town

TB posts elsewhere

TB not here

:3

[Ginngie]

You're gonna make me put in work aren't you...

[Ginngie]

You're gonna make me put in work aren't you...

yep. get going
if you're gonna push, go all in so I can see your true colors.

Ummm... if you dont have me as town by now then uhh....okay

[Ginngie]

Alisae, tomorrow I'll be on like, a lot and I'll be whipping votes, ya know how it goes, so you get brownie points when ya do it early and don't make me put in extra work cuz you wub me <333

[Ginngie]

fek yee

[Ginngie]

NOW

That means with Alisae moving off of texcat, the TB wagon is now tied for the largest wagon.

This means, there is no longer the excuse to say this is a vanity wagon as it is now the top contender to be lynched today.

Alisae thank you very much, t'was a very important vote tbh.

Now, that means we need 6 more people to get this thing through.

nancy will probs be slightly stubborn but regardless of alignment she is willing to sheep me cuz lolz so that's another vote.

We need 5 more and I fully believe I'll be able to convince QR of what's up because it's a simple demand and they're not pushing anything hardcore.

The last 4, I'd say I get support from Titus after quick talking too and I also expect a little stubborness from Kelvin but an understanding at my point as into why I'm saying he is scum is true, thus two more votes on the board.

Now we get to L-2 and the fun happens. One of the non-voters will most likely join this wagon like Eddie who I can personally talk too or BTD who is lurkfesting to the point where they might just sheep up their bootstraps.

If that doesn't work out then Bulba will come around even though he'll be wary of Titus, the great part is that this interaction will be the important bit for later on in the game.

but yee, the last person will be any one person, couldn't say but Im okay with cuz they're gonna know what's up.

So yeah, that's my battle plan so just be prepared and if you want to save time just vote early, ballots will online start of midnight.

[Ginngie]

@ginngie so you're convinced you can change my mind while I'm in deathtunnel mode on Titus
Ok, do your worst. i want to see this

I don't give a flying fuck about your death tunnel on Titus.

You want to know why?

It's because you're not a known entity on this site, I got silver tongue and you haven't earned the ability to whip votes in your favor.

It's a petty push that people won't care about and the reality of the situation is that Titus is never a day one lynch, later on down the road? yes. But day one? no.

So you're just wasting your time and like I said you're gonna be stubborn at first but by tomorrow you're gonna be helping me and we're going to have the best of times.

[Ginngie]

petty?
holy shit i really want to get to a computer and drop fire
i had loads of evidence before the shredder of dreams that is the internet took all of it

and you might not understand my tenacity fully
if i know what i'm doing i can get things done my way
and I 100% know what I'm doing

Spoiler:

[Ginngie]

Deathtunnel, without reasons, fml.

Spoiler: WHEN TITUS AND I AGREE ON SOMETHING

[Ginngie]

I don't have any meta with Titus (At least that I can remember. Feel free to correct me.) I have however played a game or two with ThinkBig. I don't remember if either were games with TB!scum though. I can check, but to reiterate, I have no idea what any of you are going on about.

Also, dramonic. Why are you voting with someone you last said was a scum-read.

You played with scum!TB in Pine's game

[Ginngie]

define extremely complex

[Ginngie]

Spoiler: This is what complex looks like to me

Playerlist

TheRealGin-N-Tonic=VT₁
Desperado=VT₂
Whemestar=VT₃
Implosion=JOAT
AJ the Epic=RB
Nosferatu=Odd Cop

Day 4 Plan

Lynch VT₃

Night 4 Gameplan

RB blocks VT₂

---

Click if there is no kill

Click if JOAT is killed

Click if Odd Cop is killed

Click if RB is killed

Day 5 Gameplan

No Lynch and proceed to Night 5 Outcome A

---

VT₂ is cleared and confirmed town
This means the scum is in VT₁, Odd Cop, RB
No Lynch and proceed to Night 5 Gameplan Outcome B

---

JOAT and VT₂ are confirmed.
scum is in VT₁ and RB

---

VT₂ is confirmed town
Scum is in Odd Cop and VT₁

Night 5 Outcome A Gameplan

RB blocks VT₂
Odd Cop checks RB

---

Click if there is no kill N5

Click if the Odd Cop is killed N5

Click if RB is killed N5

Night 5 Outcome B Gameplan

Night Actions:
RB blocks VT₁
Odd Cop checks RB

---

Click if no kill N5

Click if VT2 is killed N5

Click if RB killed N5

Day 6 Outcome A Gameplan

If Odd Cop gives innocent on RB, then scum is VT₂
If guilty, lynch RB Proceed to Night 6 Outcome Gameplan

---

VT₂ cleared and scum is in RB and VT₁

---

VT₂ is confirmed town, scum is in VT₁ and Odd Cop

Day 6 Outcome B Gameplan

If Odd Cop has guilty, scum is in Odd Cop and RB.
If Odd Cop has innocent, scum is in Odd Cop and VT₁

---

VT₁ is confirmed
Scum is in Odd Cop and RB

---

VT₂ is confirmed town, scum is in Odd Cop and VT₁

Night 6 Outcome Gameplan

Hopefully the game is over

---

If it's not, then JOAT, VT₂ confirmed town, doesn't matter which will die, scum is in Odd Cop and VT₁ if game does not end because of a fake guilty.

Day 7 Gameplan

JOAT or confirmed VT₂ will be alive, doesn't matter.
Odd Cop votes VT₁ and vice versa.
Confirmed Town is the hammering vote.

anything else isn't worth bitching about losing

[Ginngie]

oh it was waaaaaaaay worse than that

I am holding you up to this standard as that was a 6 hour post.

[Ginngie]

Guys plz I would bet my entire great reputation on this site that think big is scum

the problem I have with this push is that it has no substance. where I was able to write a decent wall on Titus being actually scummy, the thinkbig push, as you have explained, is entire based on something that's not there. I personally don't find think very scummy, sans meta of course, but I don't think your supposed missing aspects are necessarily a tell.

How do you not get something so simple?

[Ginngie]

We can do that thing

where we help the mod

by lynching the fuck out of it :3

He's been active on this site all the bloody time.

[Ginngie]

lol okay

doesn't change someone's alignment

[Ginngie]

*sigh*

[Ginngie]

I mean, I don't push lurkers unless they have a scum!meta of lurking

and replacing out by saying they can't keep up when you're active on site all the time doesn't help that fact.

Although, curious what you're saying are easy wagons

[Ginngie]

Ginngie(5): Aronis==> Mathblade==> 79 CE==> SnarkySnowman==> ThinkBig

Which ones were the easy wagons?

ThinkBig I have a history of calling out, so it can't be that.

Snarky having a strong townread on ThinkBig but never saying why and having no real contribution to the game, so it can't be that.

79 CE, you supported that one, so you going to call yourself out, so it can't be that.

MathBlade, Titus made an argument that Math town reads me while also ensuing scum reads, which I find genuinely confusing/scummy, so it can't be that(for the record this is partly gamethread and PT related).

The only one you can say that was 'easy' was my Aronis vote and that was 2 things, 1. RVS, 2. A deliberate scummy vote to get reactions which I later on used to question why Titus wasn't looking into my slot, so it actually can't be that either.

I'll be sitting here waiting :3

[Ginngie]

I smell bullshit.

[Ginngie]

You willfully ignore the reasoning I stated in the same post I quoted.

You talk about players being easy pushes, that's called calling out scummy shit or sorting players. You're not supposed to know their alignments so literally any of those players could be scum, yet you sit here lambasting me for it.

There's no way right now where I don't think it's scummy as fuck for you to essentially say all 3 of those players are town.

You don't criticize a push cuz it's "easy" sometimes that's all it really fucking is and with the amount of years notched on your belt, you damn well know that.


So tell me, without knowing their alignments, what is the town motivation on your part in invalidating my pushes by making up excuses instead of arguing against what I have already stated to be the reasoning behind my pushes?

[Ginngie]

You willfully ignore the reasoning I stated in the same post I quoted.

THIS.

Pisses me off to no fucking end.

[Ginngie]

How the fuck do you willfully ignore all my reasoning behind the votes and discuss that?

You took the fucking time to snip my own quote so I know you at least read that post.

[Ginngie]

heck I'm still not sure if anyone even read MY post lol
hey fkb hydra, was it good enough for an unvote?

I'll let you know when I actually have time to read it. Got homework due in 4 hours.

-Kelvin

Godspeed.

[Ginngie]

Oh boy I'm here

10 pages in. Only strong read is TB town.

just realized my slot has a vote out there

UNVOTE:

Also to mention he went for the easy push which is Snarky.
Although I'm not against voting Snarky

let me catch up god

30/50 getting closer

stop posting so much tho you fucks


dont feel like putting content till i'm all caught up but if you want to ask something specific feel free i guess

You can do this literally quote by quote since there is only 4

please describe how you got a strong town read from this slot :3

[Ginngie]

Oh, and the predecessor cuz I just realized snarky replaced zeus,

you said you town read him but never once went into detail about it.

[Ginngie]

You willfully ignore the reasoning I stated in the same post I quoted.

You talk about players being easy pushes, that's called calling out scummy shit or sorting players. You're not supposed to know their alignments so literally any of those players could be scum, yet you sit here lambasting me for it.

There's no way right now where I don't think it's scummy as fuck for you to essentially say all 3 of those players are town.

You don't criticize a push cuz it's "easy" sometimes that's all it really fucking is and with the amount of years notched on your belt, you damn well know that.


So tell me, without knowing their alignments, what is the town motivation on your part in invalidating my pushes by making up excuses instead of arguing against what I have already stated to be the reasoning behind my pushes?

You must have gotten a very bad image of my play from Hunger Games if you think threatening me is going to make me wilt.

Okay first off, I don't exactly get your perspective here? What did any of the Hunger Games have to do with this?
If anything related, I'd refer back to how I hated arguing with you, but I want your take on me directly challenging you and willfully picking a fight.

There's two ways that can go, it's either scum!me thinking, fight Bulba to counter his past experience, or town!me doing what I do and raise hell fire when someone has trouble working with me.

And I really don't like being misreped in the manner you just did. And yes, that is a willful misrepresentation of my argument and not some form of miscommunication. At no point did I say I knew any of their alignments,

Here's the thing, from my perspective, and admittedly this might be an emotional trigger, I see ignore what I wrote

Spoiler:

Ginngie(5): Aronis==> Mathblade==> 79 CE==> SnarkySnowman==> ThinkBig

Which ones were the easy wagons?

ThinkBig I have a history of calling out, so it can't be that.

Snarky having a strong townread on ThinkBig but never saying why and having no real contribution to the game, so it can't be that.

79 CE, you supported that one, so you going to call yourself out, so it can't be that.

MathBlade, Titus made an argument that Math town reads me while also ensuing scum reads, which I find genuinely confusing/scummy, so it can't be that(for the record this is partly gamethread and PT related).

The only one you can say that was 'easy' was my Aronis vote and that was 2 things, 1. RVS, 2. A deliberate scummy vote to get reactions which I later on used to question why Titus wasn't looking into my slot, so it actually can't be that either.

I'll be sitting here waiting :3

and like, you didn't engage with any of the reasoning, and just gave it your own. To this very moment you use your own interpretation of the Aronis vote when I clearly stated it was to be used a sorting tool which I very clearly described in the post below

Spoiler:

2. A deliberate scummy vote to get reactions which I later on used to question why Titus wasn't looking into my slot, so it actually can't be that either.

Spoiler: Also just in case you somehow missed me doing all that sorting with that vote, let me post it blatantly and all in one spot

You don't interact with the lurker on your wagon who is opportunistic as fuck (Rautherdir),

Did you see my vote?

You don't interact with the lurker on your wagon who is opportunistic as fuck (Rautherdir),

Did you see my vote?

Yes. You voted Aronis. I am not sure what you are getting at?

I mean, a name drop would have been nice

You're talking about Rauth or something and I dropped an L-3 naked vote first post of the game and then left lmfao

Your naked vote wasn't on the most popular wagon and you explained it by the time I woke up.

0.o

Aronis - 7 (Gamma Emerald, Vedith, Rautherdir, Keyent Think, BTD6_maker, Frosted Kelvin Bran,

Ginngie

)

and where have I explained a read on Aronis?

This is a weird concern, but it concerns me that you're not pressing me at all, there are so many questions or sorting that can be done that's just tossed aside.

So none of what I did was scummy

why is that?

So naked voting with no reasoning to put someone at L-3 and never giving a reason or a read on Aronis, to you, is not scummy at all?

Why are you getting annoyed so quickly?

what if


what you're calling as nonsense

is me sorting you

._.

although I do have, and have stated in thread, strong town reads of Aronis and Snarky's slot.

Spoiler: Aronis read

Vote 79 CE

Aronis is a horrible vote. He's obv. town.

It's the way he's posting. That's the whole reason why I was trying to interact with people. Aronis comes across as being very natural, whereas if he was scum, he'd be holding part of himself back or even posting less. We don't get that. That level of idgaf is very hard for Aronis-scum to fake.

Personally I don't like really quick reads but I don't know the history of Aronis so I can't criticize and I've scum read one post before and was right, so I mean yeah I can understand.

HOWEVER.

You are devoid of any reasoning that involves explaining why snarky is town. The predecessor zeus was there but

Townreading Aronis, Gin, and Zeus.

That's literally all you say on that topic, it's nothingness. So a question I want answered, is why do you have literally no expression of a thought dealing with reasoning, yet your push on me is that I'm pushing weak reasoning on players. I HAVE reasoning, while your pushing me on stuff that you've shown no real support for besides making a statement.

But that's besides the point, because we both know that you don't need to know alignments to know when a wagon or a push is off. And I don't need to freaking know their alignments to point out a pattern of voting that does not seem right.

This will be a great learning moment for me, possibly. I've never seen this theory of seeing a push as bad on D1. Just learn me up on this because I don't agree with it, but I don't want to argue with something that I don't understand.

It's called scumhunting. You see something that looks off and push at it.

So, you have admitted that the snarky thing was weird, meaning it looked off, and I pushed it. That's called scum hunting. So what did I actually do wrong?

If we look closely at your level of activity, it becomes clear real quick that you went for the wagons on the weaker players with little or weak reasoning, and then you let someone else push. That's what happened with Aronis. That's what happened with CE, since there were others, myself included, pushing it harder for you.

*coughs* V/LA at a summer camp *coughs* Besides the point, once I got home, and I started pushing TB, I think we can agree that the level of activity in me pushing a slot increased exponentially? Yay, or nay; if nay, give a reason to say?

Snarky was for stating a townread on TB, which would warrant a knee jerk vote, but it's weak reasoning at best, and you never followed up on it.

SO IT'S AN OKAY VOTE, BUT NOT WHEN I DO IT :3

and, like, idk if you noticed, but it's hard to follow up on Snarky when Snarky straight avoids the game :3 So, context trumps your argument.

And as for TB, that's the hardest you've pushed, and it's for a lurker lynch, one that actively avoids discussing any other player.

As of this moment, I just realized I didn't make the meta case I was gonna do yesterday. The importance of the meta is not worth making the spoiler for this section but it's not just any lurker lynch, it's scum reading a lurker, and I can honestly tell ya, scum can and will be lurkers, if you say otherwise, you need to get up to date with site meta because people like you who ignore lurkers are exactly why people lurk and win scum games. I can also introduce you to my not give a shit scum hunting theory crafting i've been working on and Titus can vouch that it's weird yet true that I use it.

And given TB's replace out, I'm just going to say that I don't think it's alignment indicative at all. And even if it was, a new player in the slot makes it infinitely easier to read, but that looks like it's something you're not interested in.

To be honest, I give a push I do my 100% until something else makes me re-evaluate/see something shinier. Nothings in sight so :3

I liked my interaction with you earlier in the day, but that could have just been personality,

<3

as you've done diddly squat since then.

I mean, ehhhh lately I've become a man of few words except for when I'm not.

And I don't like it, because it doesn't mesh with my Titus read, but that's gut, and this is just something that's been gnawing at me since Snarky. And I didn't want to do anything, because I really want to believe you're town in this game. Like I really do. But I'm having a harder and harder time buying it.

Unvote

Math, someone, talk to me. I just don't know anymore. I'm going to take this day and think. I'll put my vote down again tomorrow.

P-edit: See you in a few minutes, buddy.

[/quote]

One question

what is stopping you from voting me?

<<< I'd fix this but I can't quite identify how it's broken, so unfortunately it'll have to remain this way. >>>

[Ginngie]

you can pick a side and not fence sit :3

[Ginngie]

and why is that

[Ginngie]

oh I'm an idiot,

I somehow didn't read you thought it was my playstyle

I thought you were referring to something like the stuff I was saying but okay

[Ginngie]

Tl;Dr of the TB read - he was trying to make the game happen from RVS in Stark contrast to others who were trying to extend it past page 7 or 8 ish. Thats usually a pretty strong town tell

how so

[Ginngie]

Are you using my words to say why texcat needs to be lynched?

Want a small bit of clarity :3

[Ginngie]

nancy do you just love to piss me the fuck off?

[Ginngie]

1260 fucking exists

and you say say shit like this

Gin doesn't do the cheap hostility and discrediting with zero argumentation thing as town. He has no depth as scum and he has no depth here. He's not interested in talking to anyone and he doesn't even seem to have any reads. It's just scum.

[Ginngie]

Why do people willfully ignore shit to make a case on someone and vote them. It's such shitty play

[Ginngie]

I'm starting a fight

VOTE: MathBlade

[Ginngie]

Bullshit

[Ginngie]

You're not a pacifist

[Ginngie]

Spoiler: @Math

[Ginngie]

it's plurality

meaning whichever wagon is highest at deadline is the lynch

it's impossible to no lynch

[Ginngie]

1260 fucking exists

and you say say shit like this

Gin doesn't do the cheap hostility and discrediting with zero argumentation thing as town. He has no depth as scum and he has no depth here. He's not interested in talking to anyone and he doesn't even seem to have any reads. It's just scum.

1260 is just LAMIST to me. Sorry.

Bullshit that's not at all LAMIST

[Ginngie]

Actually explain how that's LAMIST

I'll wait.

[Ginngie]

I'm starting a fight

VOTE: MathBlade

woah there
is this about the light pt thing
because that escalated waaaaay out of proportion imo

What's happening in the Light PT that would explain that vote?

ginngie thinks math is fencesitting on her
wish I could quote it, it's almost hilarious

sorry if less intelligible than normal, I've been away from home all day today and I feel awful

tbh 198 is my favorite post in the PT

[Ginngie]

Now please, catch me up.

okay, I'm an innocent child (see post #94)
Titus and texcat are scum. You probably are, not sure who the third is
Then MathBlade, Quantum, and EddieFenix are in the townblock with me and all of us a widely townread by most people. A2 is also town. Bulba is prob town. After that I don't really know.

Add Titus too.

[Ginngie]

light!198 is a freaking gem

<<< DrCirno replaces ThinkBig effective immediately. >>>

oh hi. more people I don't know

If by gem you mean fabrication then go ahead...Oh wait now a days most gems are synthetic. Nevermind carry on.

HOW

CAN

YOU

CALL

IT

A

LIE

WHEN

YOU

FUCKING

SAY

THE

WORDS

YOURSELF

[Ginngie]

IT'S YOUR OWN FUCKING WORDS

THERE'S NO FUCKING TWISTING ANYTHING YOU'RE JUST SPEWING BULLSHIT AND NOT ENGAGING ME BECAUSE YOU NO YOU'RE FUCKED IF YOU DO

[Ginngie]

IT'S YOUR OWN FUCKING WORDS

THERE'S NO FUCKING TWISTING ANYTHING YOU'RE JUST SPEWING BULLSHIT AND NOT ENGAGING ME BECAUSE YOU KNOW YOU'RE FUCKED IF YOU DO

EBWOFP

[Ginngie]

How in the fuck is that a question that matters at all

[Ginngie]

That is why she is Town Ginngie she ISN'T trying to force her will on others she is laying her cards on the table and saying these are my thoughts. In 1900 nancy did exactly the same thing when she believed she was going to die in 1900. The biggest champion of the nancy wagon was me and the only argument I see for a wagon is "wagon stalled" or "not doing enough".

That fits 3/4ths of the game and is lazy as fuck. Aronis wagon although I think that is wrong too at least has a few people stating why.

I feel much better about the Aronis wagon than the nancy one.

That is why she is Town Ginngie she ISN'T trying to force her will on others she is laying her cards on the table and saying these are my thoughts. In 1900 nancy did exactly the same thing when she believed she was going to die in 1900. The biggest champion of the nancy wagon was me and the only argument I see for a wagon is "wagon stalled" or "not doing enough".

That is why she is Town Ginngie she ISN'T trying to force her will on others she is laying her cards on the table and saying these are my thoughts.

That is why she is Town Ginngie

Town Ginngie

YOU LIKE TO AVOID THIS BIT LIKE THE PLAGUE DON'T YOU

[Ginngie]

USE YOUR WORDS

[Ginngie]

I WILL GIVE AN EXPLAINED REASON WHY GINNGIE IS TOWN BUT FUCK YOU IF YOU THINK I'LL TELL YOU WHY SHE'S SCUM

[Ginngie]

HEY MATH

FUCKING PUSH ME

[Ginngie]

I WILL GIVE AN EXPLAINED REASON WHY GINNGIE IS TOWN BUT FUCK YOU IF YOU THINK I'LL TELL YOU WHY SHE'S SCUM

Dude I'm reading the fucking thread. I'll give you the ultimate smackdown when I'm done.

You literally won't.

You're going to make up some excuse after reading how you're tired and will leave. I know your bullshit.

[Ginngie]

VOTE: Gin
done with your shit.

You're gonna have to use your words on that one

[Ginngie]

Literally my entire night until 11 pm is devoted to this fucking game. So if you wanna accuse me of faking being tired when you do MY JOB go ahead. When you do my job for a living and then know what it's like to be me to work in a job that you can't even begin to be gender queer at except maybe a little bit of clothing so not only do I have to do my regular job I am the token goddamn female except that female wants a dick. You can take your bullshit about me actually not posting twenty four seven and flush that argument down the toilet. I am reading the thread and making an intelligent reasoned answer before I respond to you. DEAL WITH IT.

That's a lot of words not explaining a scum read on me

[Ginngie]

VOTE: Gin
done with your shit.

You're gonna have to use your words on that one

I think your rage is fake.
And everytime I read your latests posts I want to strangle myself.
I am fucking pist.

Coming from you that's scummy as fuck.

Two reasons real simple.

1st, we have a plethora of games together and you've seen my style almost every game.
2nd, You are a carbon copy of rb from our last game together where he voted me because I was annoying rather than being scummy.

[Ginngie]

I just do it.

Spoiler:

[Ginngie]

1st, we have a plethora of games together and you've seen my style almost every game.

I don't care about your style atm. I'm not going to townread you for it either.
Like
I am just
Angry when I see your posts.
And I don't even fucking know why
but I just look at your posts and just get angry.
like fuck man.

--

2nd, You are a carbon copy of rb from our last game together where he voted me because I was annoying rather than being scummy.

You really think I care about what rb did? Our playstyles aren't even the same Gin. Like this is just bullshit.

1st again, in spyro you were annoyed by me.

2nd again, scummy behavior is scummy behavior, I'm not talking playstyle, it's the same action and justification in how you vote that makes it scummy.

[Ginngie]

Spoiler:

Literally my entire night until 11 pm is devoted to this fucking game. So if you wanna accuse me of faking being tired when you do MY JOB go ahead. When you do my job for a living and then know what it's like to be me to work in a job that you can't even begin to be gender queer at except maybe a little bit of clothing so not only do I have to do my regular job I am the token goddamn female except that female wants a dick. You can take your bullshit about me actually not posting twenty four seven and flush that argument down the toilet. I am reading the thread and making an intelligent reasoned answer before I respond to you. DEAL WITH IT.

That's a lot of words not explaining a scum read on me

Now that I'm caught up you get your shiny "words".

First off your ISO has one or two "wall posts" in it that barely about to any sort of content at all. Your ISO in here reads more like active lurking and outright spam. When I'm clearly online and addressing things there is 0 reason to continually go answer me now. The only purpose that serves it will derail me and make me lose my train of thought as I am a stream of consciousness poster. If I'm thinking something then preview the post for formatting reasons and I see 10 MATH PUSH ME posts my give a fucks go down to almost none. There is NO reason to do that and it makes the game unbearable. If you are addressing a direct point, then fine. But you're literally trying to hijack the thread to get me mislynched avoiding talking about texcat, hijacking the light PT towards making it unusable, after a great start you've done literally no hunting then are just spamming "MATH IS SCUM" repeatedly over and over and over.

There are multiple ways to play mafia and quite frankly the "I'm gonna shit the thread" is becoming more common as scum and it's really pathetic. If you can't be scum and actually put forth an intelligent conversation move on.

So the scum read is devolved into active lurking/me begging you to push the fuck out of me

[Ginngie]

You're saying outdated meta but it doesn't change the fact that voting someone because they're annoying and not because they're scummy, is scumfuck calling card.

[Ginngie]

Okay fuck the meta.

My point still stands.

You're voting me because you're annoyed and not because I'm scummy.

[Ginngie]

Let me make a summary.

Gin: Math why your read change on me
Math: *ketchup posting*
Gin: Math?
Math: *more ketchup posting*
Gin: MATH WHAT AM I, A CHOPPED LIVER?????
MATH: OMG STOP SPAMMING SCUM

[Ginngie]

Okay fuck the meta.

My point still stands.

You're voting me because you're annoyed and not because I'm scummy.

Hey scum
Are you gonna bark all day or are you gonna bite?

Okay, witty remarks does not equal retorting the point I made.

Hey Gin
here's a fun thing to think about.
Put yourself in my shoes.
And ask yourself "If A2 was scum, why would they initiate a fight with you?"

WIFOM

Also fuck you you make it valid, Spyro you literally went "why would I as scum vig hunt" or something like that.

[Ginngie]

I can't explain why he does it. He has though. I've told him the scumteam in the past without reading the thread and making logical deductions. He got pissed and lylo voted me anyway. Just because he is annoying doesn't make him scum.

I am making slow progress, like nancy's game we had like a good 20 minutes of where I actually listened lmao

[Ginngie]

SO, if your scum game is no longer weak, then you would no longer fear a fight, so you would be able to use WIFOM to argue that you wouldn't fight me as scum.

that's like circular logic?

[Ginngie]

She's working against the town wincon by making the thread unbearable intentionally. Only scum work against the town wincon intentionally. Ginnie is scum.

Titus if you can't explain why someone would make this impossible for everyone to play and have that player be town then your read is just liking Ginnie.

viewtopic.php?t=70415&f=3&st=0&sk=t&sd= ... er_sort=Go


viewtopic.php?p=9045389&user_select%5B% ... 7#p9045389

lol oops

[Ginngie]

You're not even addressing my point...
You're just taking the weakest shit I throw out there and using it to suit your own needs...

Your point is literally WIFOM making it unusable?

[Ginngie]

Spoiler:

She's working against the town wincon by making the thread unbearable intentionally. Only scum work against the town wincon intentionally. Ginnie is scum.

Titus if you can't explain why someone would make this impossible for everyone to play and have that player be town then your read is just liking Ginnie.

viewtopic.php?t=70415&f=3&st=0&sk=t&sd= ... er_sort=Go


viewtopic.php?p=9045389&user_select%5B% ... 7#p9045389

lol oops

And now you didn't answer the question and alt outed.

Wtf?

Like are you trying to just be <redacted stream of words>?

Just making the point that you've been hilariously spamming and my way/highway kinda player and really just showing that it can be town :3

[Ginngie]

Alisae do you have any reason to vote me besides being annoyed

[Ginngie]

It's not misrepresenting if I'm literally accurately describing something.

P-edit: So now I'm a policy lynch.

Please tell me more how you won't delve into my play and say why it's scum. This is fun

[Ginngie]

I'm starting a fight

VOTE: MathBlade

:3

Shit works yo

[Ginngie]

You're going to give me this meta shit everytime I try to push you regardless of your alignment...You DO know that, right?

wait a minute

let this be clear

you're saying i'd use meta arguments on you regardless of alignments, yay or nay

[Ginngie]

Ginggie, I don't care for this. You've convinced me Math will never die before you. Got it.

Spoiler:

[Ginngie]

You're going to give me this meta shit everytime I try to push you regardless of your alignment...You DO know that, right?

wait a minute

let this be clear

you're saying i'd use meta arguments on you regardless of alignments, yay or nay

I'm saying that anytime I would try to push you, you would attempt to use selfmeta to get me to not push you.

but the regardless of alignment part is what I'm getting at.

Is it scummy or NAI cuz it sounds like you're saying it's NAI and also saying it's scummy.

P-edit: Fucking lol'd hard @Kelvin

[Ginngie]

Spoiler: Everyone @ing me

[Ginngie]

Fairly sure that Gin just wants Math to tunnel her so that she can shit all over their push and get townread for it.

VOTE: Gin
done with your shit.

Ginggie, I don't care for this. You've convinced me Math will never die before you. Got it.

accurate

[Ginngie]

Lmao

[Ginngie]

I'm a night kill immune miller vig

[Ginngie]

Light PT is a masonry

[Ginngie]

VOTE: texas

<<< I'm interpreting Texas as texcat. >>>

[Ginngie]

What do you mean get off me?

I was at max two votes

[Ginngie]

And for like, 20 minutes tops

[Ginngie]

May god help you on your journey

[Ginngie]

A duck walked up to the lemonade stand