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Proposal 301: Currency refers to any resource which may be freely traded between players without any cost. Should a law instate a new currency, it must have a name, and one initial way to earn it. If it is not stated, assume that all players start with 0 of the Currency.
VOTE: Yea 301
If that passes, I'll let someone else make a currency
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Proposal 303: The Monarch is defined to be exactly one player at a time, who has special abilities that may later be defined. In addition, The Monarch may choose to abdicate their power to a player of their choice. If more than 3/4ths of all active non-Monarch players vote to overthrow the Monarch, then a new Monarch shall be picked with the old Monarch being ineligible for being picked. If a Monarch becomes inactive, a new Monarch shall be picked.
If no player is currently the Monarch, whoever has the most points above 10 and is eligible shall become the Monarch. All inactive players are considered ineligible for becoming the Monarch. If no player currently meets this threshold, the first player to meet this criteria will become the Monarch.
VOTE: Yea 303
I have some plans with this, mainly instituting the first currency, Royalty Coins.
By default The Monarch would be able to spend as many Royalty Coins as the treasury has (Say, 1,000 to start) and would be able to give and take away Royalty coins from players.
If a Monarch had a previous balance of Royalty Coins and they abdicate, then they get to keep twice as many Royalty Coins as they started out with, assuming that the treasury has that many coins. If a Monarch was overthrown, then they lose all of their Royalty Coins.
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I will also promise to abdicate immediately should I get to be the Monarch, probably to StrangerCoug if I can wrap him into this.Show"I'm sorry that you put asbestos in your coffee."
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I have edited Proposal 303 to include the following:
If no player currently meets this threshold, the first player to meet this criteria will become the Monarch.
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Proposal 303 (Post 19) by Jake The Wolfie: The Monarch is defined to be exactly one player at a time, who has special abilities that may later be defined. In addition, The Monarch may choose to abdicate their power to a player of their choice. If more than 3/4ths of all active non-Monarch players vote to overthrow the Monarch, then a new Monarch shall be picked with the old Monarch being ineligible for being picked. If a Monarch becomes inactive, a new Monarch shall be picked.
If no player is currently the Monarch, whoever has the most points above 10 and is eligible shall become the Monarch. All inactive players are considered ineligible for becoming the Monarch.
Yea - Jake The Wolfie (19)
Nay - lendunistus (21)
Not Voting - Ircher, tris, Charles510
Current Standings:
- Ircher - 1 point
- Jake The Wolfie - 1 point
- tris - 0 points
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- Charles510 - 0 points
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VOTE: Yea 304
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Proposal 311: Shiny Rocks are a type of Currency. Each player gains 10 Shiny Rocks for each point that they gain, including retroactively.Show"I'm sorry that you put asbestos in your coffee."
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Instead of naming it something modern like "Coins" or some crap, we are all but crows collecting shiny rocks.Show"I'm sorry that you put asbestos in your coffee."
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Points are how one wins the game. It is baked into the initial ruleset. I'm setting somw groundwork for a new currency, so that we might get some exchange going on.
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Shiny rocks themselves aren't worth much. They're meant to be a small token for gaining some points, and aren't meant to be spent in large quantities, certainly not meant to be used to gain more points.Show"I'm sorry that you put asbestos in your coffee."
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StrangerCoug abstaining also means that it doesn't fail, as you need 4 votes to fail it.Show"I'm sorry that you put asbestos in your coffee."
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It is pointless. There isn't really a reason for it. If you had reservations about a proposal, you would say so.Show"I'm sorry that you put asbestos in your coffee."
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I would be like ordering a cheese burger with a meat patty and cheese. It's unnecessary to say "Oh btw I have reservations about this prop"Show"I'm sorry that you put asbestos in your coffee."
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Proposal 315: Amend Rule 208 to say the following:
There may be no more than X pending proposals at any given time, where X is the largest of either 5, or 5 + 1/2 * (# of active players - 5), rounded down if necessecary. The only exception is when an active player becoming inactive would cause X to be less than the current number of proposals.
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This allows the game to kinda scale should we suddenly get a rush of players.
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But that doesn't scale well, does it? If we got over 10 players here, then most players won'thavepoints/currency to spend, or we'll have a flood of proposals.Show"I'm sorry that you put asbestos in your coffee."
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VOTE: Nay 316
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If someone who has a lot of N$ exists, then everything that is actually good will cost way too much, because otherwise they could buy in bulk and sweep the game.Show"I'm sorry that you put asbestos in your coffee."
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Ircher, the Nomical Bank is perhaps thee most boring thing I have read, and I have read the literal dictionary, and The DnD player's handbook.Show"I'm sorry that you put asbestos in your coffee."
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Will these positions be recallable at any time? Can they be replaced immediately if they wreak havoc on the players? How long will their terms be? Is the Nomic bank really necessary?Show"I'm sorry that you put asbestos in your coffee."
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I don't particularly like 320.Show"I'm sorry that you put asbestos in your coffee."
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That sounds spicy.
Throw in the motion that I shall be called Prince Jake, son of the 7th circle for 1 week.Show"I'm sorry that you put asbestos in your coffee."
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And for every infraction, I get 25N$, and they lose either 1 point, or 50$N, if they don't have any points.Show"I'm sorry that you put asbestos in your coffee."
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Proposal 322: A Conditional Vote is defined to be the following: If a player inserts the keywords "Conditional" before the Yea or Nay, and includes the condition within the line that contains the vote in bold, then the vote will a Conditional Vote. A Conditional Vote will only count when the bolded condition becomes true. If the bolded condition is impossible, the vote will be voided. While the bolded condition is possible but has not occurred yet, the player will not vote.Show"I'm sorry that you put asbestos in your coffee."
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Proposal 323: If a player breaks any rule, they cannot earn points for the next 24 hours. If the same player breaks any rule within this timeframe, add 24 more hours to the timeframe. In addition, that player loses 1 point. For each additional rule break by the same player within this timeframe, they lose X points, where X equals how many rules that player has broken. In addition, 24 hours will be added to their timeframe.Show"I'm sorry that you put asbestos in your coffee."
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Here's a bastard idea:
Each of us, going in some order, gets to create a new Temporary Rule (Starting at T000). These rules go into effect immediately, but there are a few restrictions that they have, mainly no instant wins (such as Player X gains 100 points) and no changing the structure of this process (such as Player Y is considered to be inactive while this rule exists)
On your turn, you may choose to either create a Temporary Rule, or retract a Temporary Rule.
Of course, we could also do this in a miniature game of nomic within our game of nomic, which might be fun.Show"I'm sorry that you put asbestos in your coffee."
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Interesting idea:
A miniature board game (similar to Betrayal at the Haunted House on the Hill), where certain rules only apply in certain rooms. Any time a player investigates a room, they may either create the first rule in that room, or decide what the room looks like (with everyone else voting on the other property of the room)Show"I'm sorry that you put asbestos in your coffee."
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I'm tempted to propose the following:
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I don't think that a Motion should be able to bypass a Mutable rule.Show"I'm sorry that you put asbestos in your coffee."
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VOTE: Conditional Yea 321If both M001 passes, and if Ircher grants me both N$850 and a 1-time coupon to secure their vote on either a proposal or motion.Show"I'm sorry that you put asbestos in your coffee."
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Proposal 324: If an item is denoted as being Permanent, then it will stay inside of the Nomic Shop indefinitely unless some other effect removes it from the Nomic Shop. Furthermore, items what are meant to outlast their Motion but are not meant to stay forever can be added either as a Limited Supply, which would require how many of that item is stocked within the shop, or as Limited Time, which would require how much time that item is inside of the shop. Each time an item in Limited Supply is bought, the number representing how many of that item exist goes down by 1. If this would cause this number to go to 0, then the item shall be removed. If this would cause the number to go below 0, the transaction will not go through. After the amount of time a Limited Time item is allotted to stay inside of the shop, that item shall be removed.
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Before 321 is accepted, I must also receive that coupon from Ircher, as per the condition.Show"I'm sorry that you put asbestos in your coffee."
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Motion M002: (This motion lasts 1 second)The Nomic Shop receives the following Permanent Item: Vote Coupon ([PLAYERNAME]), N$100 - This item can be traded with other players and can be used. When bought, replace [PLAYERNAME] with the player's name who bought it. If it is used, the user must choose one proposal or motion that they are currently voting for. Assuming this is the case, the vote coupon is destroyed, and [PLAYERNAME]'s vote automatically changes to align with the user on the chosen proposal or motion. In addition, [PLAYERNAME] may not change their own vote on chosen proposal or motion via any method, however other players may change [PLAYERNAME]'s vote.
I will grant Ircher the necessary funds to purchace this item should the motion go through.Last edited by Jake The Wolfie on Mon Nov 01, 2021 12:46 pm, edited 1 time in total.Show"I'm sorry that you put asbestos in your coffee."
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Proposal 325: Items can be bought from The Item Shop by posting in bold the following format, replacing [Amount] with the number of it item they want, and [ItemName] with the item to be purchased: Buy [Amount] [ItemName]
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In addition, [PLAYERNAME] may not change their own vote on chosen proposal or motion via any method, however other players may change [PLAYERNAME]'s vote.Show"I'm sorry that you put asbestos in your coffee."
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325 passes
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Prince Jake, son of the 7th circle has 5 points, as 325 is mineIn post 218, Ircher wrote:I counted, and I think Prince Jake, son of the 7th circle only has 4 points for 301, 322, 323, and 324. This is at least what I have with regards to the archive. (Motions don't count as they are "proposed motions" and not proposals.) Can someone else double-check this?
With regards to 326, that sounds like a good idea. I added a subsection for the shop under player statuses, but we could certainly move it to a new page.
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Hmm, what if we could gain mana like in Magic, where you could gain land (such as from purchasing it from el shoppe) and every 24 hours all tapped land regenerates, or gets untappednShow"I'm sorry that you put asbestos in your coffee."
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Give Ircher N$100
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Concept: Vote Tokens. Each vote token is worth 1/X votes, where X is the number of vote tokens that exist. Upon using 1 vote token, it is destroyed.Show"I'm sorry that you put asbestos in your coffee."
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I think because Charles left, and because tris is inactive, majority is now 3Show"I'm sorry that you put asbestos in your coffee."
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Proposal 328: Mana exists in the 5 +1 colors fromMagic: the Gathering. Each color is denoted as follows: White - W, Black - B, Blue - U, Green - G, Red - R, Colorless - C.Show"I'm sorry that you put asbestos in your coffee."
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Motion M003: (This motion lasts 1 second.) The Nomic Shop receives 5 +1 permanent Items. The first 5 are Basic Colored Lands, one for each type of colored Mana, which all follow the standardMagic: the Gatheringnaming convention. They cost N$250 each. The +1 is the Basic Colorless Land, named Wastes, which costs N$125. Each item should be listed as follows, where [LAND NAME] and [MANA SYMBOL] are replaced with their respective Basic land/Mana Symbol pair (such as Swamp and B): [LAND NAME] (Land) - Tap this land to gain 1 [MANA SYMBOL]. You may only buy 1 Land Item per day.Show"I'm sorry that you put asbestos in your coffee."
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The main reason why Wastes would be cheaper is that most spells would require colored Mana, while Wastes can only produce colorless Mana.Show"I'm sorry that you put asbestos in your coffee."
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I wouldn't be that uncreative.
At the very least, I would allow for other people to win too.Show"I'm sorry that you put asbestos in your coffee."
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Proposal 329: When any Non-player who has not previously joined the game joins the game, they may grant 5 points to any active player. Doing so will grant them 1 point and N$250. This one-time grant shall be in the following format, where [Player] is replaced with the target player's name, and must be bolded: Recruitment Bonus: [Player]. If a new player does not use this ability within 24 hours, they may not ever use it.Show"I'm sorry that you put asbestos in your coffee."
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