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Post Post #10 (isolation #0) » Wed Jun 26, 2019 4:46 pm

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Post Post #45 (isolation #1) » Thu Jun 27, 2019 2:54 pm

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hopefully RC is town
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Post Post #46 (isolation #2) » Thu Jun 27, 2019 2:55 pm

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oh wait RC isn't in this game
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Post Post #87 (isolation #3) » Fri Jun 28, 2019 4:29 pm

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VOTE: OkaPoka

Yeah I don't think we should vote someone who was prodded. Seems like you're just voting LHF to vote LHF.
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Post Post #97 (isolation #4) » Fri Jun 28, 2019 10:19 pm

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firebringer what's your favorite flavor of scum?
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Post Post #109 (isolation #5) » Sat Jun 29, 2019 4:45 pm

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VOTE: Dunnstral

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In post 17, Dunnstral wrote:Hey guys, glad to be a member of the town once again
This also being isn't a good sign.
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Post Post #113 (isolation #6) » Sat Jun 29, 2019 7:03 pm

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In post 110, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 109, TemporalLich wrote:
In post 17, Dunnstral wrote:Hey guys, glad to be a member of the town once again
This also being isn't a good sign.
Can you explain how it isn't a good sign?
... because it seems artificial and forced?
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Post Post #115 (isolation #7) » Sat Jun 29, 2019 10:41 pm

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In post 114, Dunnstral wrote:How is it artificial and forced?

Explain your whole thought process
You posted the same "I'm town" post twice, once in pregame and once in D1.

You're clearly scum trying to fool the town into thinking you're town, the second post seems to be for those that didn't see your first post.

The same content in the two posts makes it not even seem like you're trying to be genuine.
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Post Post #129 (isolation #8) » Sun Jun 30, 2019 3:45 pm

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My SR's still on dunn
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Post Post #141 (isolation #9) » Sun Jun 30, 2019 9:51 pm

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someone should put dunn in the tent
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Post Post #143 (isolation #10) » Sun Jun 30, 2019 9:53 pm

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In post 142, Firebringer wrote:why r u so confident in dunn being scum?
I've got no other SR's and the game is stagnating.
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Post Post #146 (isolation #11) » Sun Jun 30, 2019 10:00 pm

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In post 145, Firebringer wrote:like thoughts on skitter or callofjudge for example?
I barely townread skitter, the ISO looks meh with townie added to taste.

I townread CfJ, seems very analytical.

hot take: if dunn flips green Oka is potentially scum
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Post Post #150 (isolation #12) » Sun Jun 30, 2019 10:02 pm

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In post 147, Firebringer wrote:dunn hasn't done anything this game to give me a read but part of me thinks dunn/skitter is a team just by how skitter talked about the wagon.

that gives me more reason to scumread skitter tho
oh right, exists.

That's not a good sign.
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Post Post #152 (isolation #13) » Sun Jun 30, 2019 10:06 pm

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In post 151, Firebringer wrote:also would like to know the oka/dunn combo distinction. Going ???? on that.
if it's SvS I'll be shocked inside-out.

TvT might be a possibility but I think SvT is more likely.

Oka is the one pushing the Dunn wagon btw
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Post Post #154 (isolation #14) » Sun Jun 30, 2019 10:11 pm

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In post 153, Firebringer wrote:i got that oka is pushing the dunn wagon, i am just wondering why u thought it had to be TvS.
SvS is right out because seriously? Scum Bussing this early is insane!

Oka doesn't seem particularly towny especially in the light of a green flip, and lead me to believe scummy wagon, but scum bussing this early is insane.
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Post Post #156 (isolation #15) » Sun Jun 30, 2019 10:15 pm

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In post 155, Firebringer wrote:idk scum bussing this early really isn't abnormal. but i don't think oka push is much of a buss.
right now Oka is a solid meh
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Post Post #167 (isolation #16) » Mon Jul 01, 2019 10:51 am

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VOTE: OkaPoka

Maybe, but a scumread is still a scumread
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Post Post #174 (isolation #17) » Mon Jul 01, 2019 12:51 pm

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In post 173, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 167, TemporalLich wrote:VOTE: OkaPoka

Maybe, but a scumread is still a scumread
Why did you switch your vote?
Oka's new posts don't seem towny.
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Post Post #201 (isolation #18) » Mon Jul 01, 2019 8:11 pm

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my thoughts are still oka is trying to paint me red
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Post Post #207 (isolation #19) » Tue Jul 02, 2019 3:58 am

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hopefully oka gets put in the tent soon
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Post Post #217 (isolation #20) » Tue Jul 02, 2019 12:57 pm

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what are your thoughts on OkaPoka?
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Post Post #221 (isolation #21) » Tue Jul 02, 2019 1:55 pm

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Can you elaborate and/or give a case on Oka being town?
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Post Post #254 (isolation #22) » Tue Jul 02, 2019 11:47 pm

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the oka wagon is withering...

doesn't gel with me, but I doubt the sharpness of comes from scum.

I'm conflicted between Oka (the wagon is just dying lol) and the worst (not much towniness but I can understand) right now.
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Post Post #256 (isolation #23) » Wed Jul 03, 2019 1:18 am

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In post 255, the worst wrote:
In post 254, TemporalLich wrote:the worst (not much towniness but I can understand)
talk about this?
Gonna say is the most indicative post of my read on you.

I'm saying you haven't eased into this game yet.
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Post Post #258 (isolation #24) » Wed Jul 03, 2019 2:01 am

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I guess I can see how the sharpness of may just be LAMIST
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Post Post #285 (isolation #25) » Thu Jul 04, 2019 3:58 am

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VOTE: Firebringer

That vote doesn't get with me, and neither does your Oka townread tbh.
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Post Post #292 (isolation #26) » Thu Jul 04, 2019 12:24 pm

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and I'm still your bottom read Oka?
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Post Post #299 (isolation #27) » Thu Jul 04, 2019 3:26 pm

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still thinking skitter town, firebringer needs to explain his SR of skitter
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Post Post #307 (isolation #28) » Thu Jul 04, 2019 4:14 pm

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In post 305, skitter30 wrote:also grats on being the first person to actually recognize the difference between my singleball and multiball range lol

@temporal why am i town?
Your ISO feels like you're playing the game, is a vote with reads, is a good explanation, is good, and the readlist in seems pretty good (to the point where even Oka thinks it is good).
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Post Post #309 (isolation #29) » Thu Jul 04, 2019 6:20 pm

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In post 308, OkaPoka wrote:im getting bored
so tentatively without much thinking and subject to change

{OkaPoka}
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1. why are you in your own readlist
2. why is Firebringer meh town to you?
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Post Post #385 (isolation #30) » Fri Jul 05, 2019 10:18 am

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In post 380, OkaPoka wrote:t_w and lich imma need some readslist from you two <3
here's a read list I guess

town
- CfJ, skitter
town lean
- sleepless, the worst
meh
- sweetnsassy, dunn
scum lean
- oka
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- firebringer

tw and dunn might be one tier too high, meh
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Post Post #387 (isolation #31) » Fri Jul 05, 2019 10:31 am

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In post 386, OkaPoka wrote:firebringer is scum why?
he has yet to give explanations on his townread of you and therefore doesn't have explanations for his skitter vote in .

Oh and is an outright refusal to give said explanations for scumreading (and thus voting) skitter. is an indication we'll never get an explanation of firebringer's skitter SR in any more depth than 's oka townread which isn't much tbh.
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Post Post #389 (isolation #32) » Fri Jul 05, 2019 10:52 am

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In post 388, OkaPoka wrote:can u click iso on firebringer and come back to me if you still hold those reasons
ISOing him again again, here are my observations:

- mild townping for me

- unexplained vote

- good L-1, but there's so idk tbh

- I still think it's a bad idea

- eh I guess it works but it's not really an explanation. Probably the best post from firebringer.

- I'd say skitter is giving his thoughts as he plays, so no. At least I think this comes from town more than from scum. This is where the "skitter SR" is.

- I still despise that vote, and "I pretty much explained my reasoning on town!oka" seems to show unwillingness to change tbh

- still a "I refuse to explain my skitter SR" post

- negative charisma

- another "I refuse to explain my skitter SR" post

firebringer is potentially scum (bump up to scum lean tier) for refusing to explain stuff when pushed.

still leaving my vote on firebringer because honestly refusing to explain stuff is not good for the town.
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Post Post #391 (isolation #33) » Fri Jul 05, 2019 11:03 am

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In post 390, OkaPoka wrote:umm but then by your admission firebringer explains his skitter sr? even if you think it comes from town more, its still his reasoning?
the thing is... doesn't lead me to much reasons to reconsider my TR of skitter, and when firebringer is pushed to explain his skitter SR he just doesn't.
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Post Post #394 (isolation #34) » Fri Jul 05, 2019 11:59 pm

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In post 392, Firebringer wrote:Don’t bother trying to piece together logic
I just get more confused every time I read this post.
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Post Post #425 (isolation #35) » Sat Jul 06, 2019 11:02 pm

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I townread Oversoul. Very good catch up and logic.

Therefore I will change my vote.

VOTE: OkaPoka

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Post Post #427 (isolation #36) » Sun Jul 07, 2019 5:24 am

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In post 426, OkaPoka wrote:ew
I'm just gonna say this is a wolfy response.
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Post Post #430 (isolation #37) » Sun Jul 07, 2019 5:27 am

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In post 429, OkaPoka wrote:ur firebringer read still has some unresolved issues that need resolving
Are you asking me to go to Pluto so I can find the mythical reason to townread Firebringer?
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Post Post #433 (isolation #38) » Sun Jul 07, 2019 5:36 am

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In post 432, OkaPoka wrote:talk to me about dunn's slot and why you have him more town than firebringer
Despite Dunn's artificial first few posts, he seems to be giving a bare minimum of explanation. Don't like how he pretty much pulls a Firebringer when asked to explain his SnS SR though.
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Post Post #436 (isolation #39) » Sun Jul 07, 2019 5:42 am

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In post 434, OkaPoka wrote:by your own admission firebringer talks about his skitter sr
He talked about it once. Then refuses to explain when asked to explain it in more depth and the explanation is insufficient for me to take it with any degree of heart (but is still enough an explanation to know he isn't just making up reads from nothing)

Also is uncooperative no matter what universe you're in.
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Post Post #437 (isolation #40) » Sun Jul 07, 2019 5:42 am

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In post 435, Firebringer wrote:oka wagon is trash
Please explain why, in your own words
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Post Post #443 (isolation #41) » Sun Jul 07, 2019 6:19 am

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In post 442, Dunnstral wrote:I don't remember when somebody asked me to explain my sns scumread, can you refresh my memory?
I was counting as such a post.
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Post Post #449 (isolation #42) » Sun Jul 07, 2019 7:09 am

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In post 448, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 443, TemporalLich wrote:
In post 442, Dunnstral wrote:I don't remember when somebody asked me to explain my sns scumread, can you refresh my memory?
I was counting as such a post.
That post pretty clearly isn't asking anything
alright then. What's your reasoning on your SnS scumread?
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Post Post #451 (isolation #43) » Sun Jul 07, 2019 7:15 am

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In post 450, OkaPoka wrote:does dunn's original post not suffice
I mean I can actually take it to heart so it sorta works, but more explanation would be nice before I consider voting SnS (though it's pretty much moot now).
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Post Post #453 (isolation #44) » Sun Jul 07, 2019 7:22 am

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In post 452, OkaPoka wrote:you need dunn to case sns for you to vote that slot?
I'd hold off on voting SnS regardless
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Post Post #455 (isolation #45) » Sun Jul 07, 2019 7:26 am

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In post 454, OkaPoka wrote:but does dunn casing sns affect your read on sns significantly or?
it won't
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Post Post #457 (isolation #46) » Sun Jul 07, 2019 7:34 am

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In post 456, OkaPoka wrote:
In post 451, TemporalLich wrote:
In post 450, OkaPoka wrote:does dunn's original post not suffice
I mean I can actually take it to heart so it sorta works, but more explanation would be nice before I consider voting SnS (though it's pretty much moot now).
then what does this mean
I would have needed more explanation to vote SnS, but it doesn't matter anyway.
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Post Post #497 (isolation #47) » Sun Jul 07, 2019 1:37 pm

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I think a Firebringer/Oka scumteam is possible.
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Post Post #552 (isolation #48) » Mon Jul 08, 2019 8:14 am

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I've skimmed the thread and Oka seems even scummier somehow
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Post Post #553 (isolation #49) » Mon Jul 08, 2019 8:14 am

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ebwop: the new posts of the thread
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Post Post #563 (isolation #50) » Mon Jul 08, 2019 11:30 pm

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In post 534, Kop wrote:
In post 533, skitter30 wrote:Yes, but who is he appeasing? Fire or lich?
Appeasing lich, why else would he change a read after being questioned on it?
I don't think bumping up Firebringer (who I SR'ed) a tier is appeasing me.

p.edit if you quickhammered and Oka flipped green you'd probably be lynched. But I can see that strategy working for scum you.
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Post Post #581 (isolation #51) » Tue Jul 09, 2019 11:52 am

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In post 577, OkaPoka wrote:Scum just a bunch of scared kids
I have a feeling Oka is the scum
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Post Post #592 (isolation #52) » Tue Jul 09, 2019 12:45 pm

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In post 583, OkaPoka wrote:What's the game plan when I flip town lich?
I'd vote either dunn or firebringer. You flipping red like I suspect would mean I'd vote firebringer.
In post 584, OkaPoka wrote:Also updooted readslist from you pretty please?
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- Oversoul
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- dunn, Kop, sleepless
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- firebringer
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Post Post #595 (isolation #53) » Tue Jul 09, 2019 12:55 pm

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In post 593, OkaPoka wrote:so lich

what makes you flip from me being scummier to fire being scummier

because from what i see

you start to scumread me more as my wagon builds and scumread firebringer more as my wagon withers
um, you're taunting the scum and assuming your wagon isn't scummy, then insisting you're town when you're at L-1?

As for Dunn you became scummier than him, and I think you and dunn can't be SvS

As for fire, he hard defends you without reason and scumreads skitter for a reason he won't expand on
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Post Post #597 (isolation #54) » Tue Jul 09, 2019 1:00 pm

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oka if you're SRing me because my vote is true, you're scum even if you're town
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Post Post #601 (isolation #55) » Tue Jul 09, 2019 1:02 pm

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In post 598, OkaPoka wrote:look at these read shifts

they line up perfectly with his votes

which also line up with how the gamestate is feeling basically

dunn wagon is popular -> i sr dunn

dunn wagon no longer popular ->need new sr -> oka might be hot commodity as cjf cases and skitter approves -> votes oka and srs oka now

oka wagon loses steam -> needs new sr -> firebringer seems to be getting sr by skitter -> firebringer jumps to top sr and votes him (look at iso no mention of sring firebringer b4hand, logically if he wanted a new wagon he'd resolve tw or sleepless)

oka wagon gains steam again -> votes oka and i become top sr again?
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Post Post #605 (isolation #56) » Tue Jul 09, 2019 1:06 pm

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In post 603, OkaPoka wrote:i dont even understand what thats supposed to mean
I'm pretty sure trying to wagon me because my votes match my reads is anti-town regardless of alignment
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Post Post #609 (isolation #57) » Tue Jul 09, 2019 1:15 pm

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In post 607, OkaPoka wrote: except it appears that your reads are coming after your vote

and your reads/votes literally follow the momentum of the game with each step

im not seeing indication of your reads before you do it you know?

for example why is firebringer less scummy now than before and what made you at the time put me as less scummy than firebringer? i didnt see indication of these things before it happened
You got so scummy I had to bump Fire down a tier to compensate

Firebringer hasn't done anything to ping me as town from then

In fact is +scum equity for both you and fire, whatever that is

Your reaction to your wagon isn't towny, and I agree with skitter that the lack of resistance on your wagon is scum-AI
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Post Post #610 (isolation #58) » Tue Jul 09, 2019 1:15 pm

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ebwop: up a tier
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Post Post #614 (isolation #59) » Tue Jul 09, 2019 1:22 pm

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In post 611, OkaPoka wrote:okay point to concrete examples where i do things that scum does with my evil scum posts
a few scummy posts from oka: (NAIish), (I see this as more scum-motivated (trying to throw off the town) than town-motivated, this contraindicates you being town PR), (TMI'ing), (explain sleepless scum to me), (claiming town is a scum cliche), (giving up?)

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Post Post #615 (isolation #60) » Tue Jul 09, 2019 1:24 pm

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oka you can't cherry-pick your towny posts and expect me to find scummy posts
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Post Post #620 (isolation #61) » Tue Jul 09, 2019 1:28 pm

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In post 616, OkaPoka wrote:i can because thats where the read flip happened since you said yourself i was making evil scummy posts that you had to bump firebringer up to compensate for my mega evil maniacal scumminess
the posts you gave were towny posts, but since you insist I'll play the pretend you're a dayvig that will shoot me if I don't pick a post game

, it strongly indicates you being scum with Fire and seems like buddying
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Post Post #623 (isolation #62) » Tue Jul 09, 2019 1:30 pm

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In post 621, OkaPoka wrote:lol u sr me for pointing out a gap in your logic?

the one where you sr firebringer for not giving explanation but then you yourself said he gave explanation, it just happens you disagree with it?
I can see scum!you doing it to look like you're defending firebringer by attacking me
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Post Post #628 (isolation #63) » Tue Jul 09, 2019 1:37 pm

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In post 622, OkaPoka wrote:and if that post only indicates me being scum with firebringer then how does that bump firebringer up to less scummy LOL
the scale of the readlist was adjusted
In post 626, OkaPoka wrote:okay i just want this for the record

you still standby the idea that firebringer is scummy bc he didn't explain his skitter sr even when he did explain skitter sr by your own admission

its loaded but yeah
I want firebringer to explain his skitter SR in more depth so I can know why firebringer SR's skitter
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Post Post #630 (isolation #64) » Tue Jul 09, 2019 1:41 pm

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In post 627, OkaPoka wrote:someone vote lich lol
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Post Post #631 (isolation #65) » Tue Jul 09, 2019 1:44 pm

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In post 629, OkaPoka wrote:You yourself admit that I made towny posts from that post to 425 (which is your vote on me btw)

You also admit that firebringer is less scummy because I've been so scummy.

But the only post I made in that time that made you feel like was scum motivated, implicates both me and firebringer as scum.

So the questions are

1) When you voted me at 425, was I the top scumread for you?
2) How does me making townier posts lead you to vote me, when I wasn't even your top scumread at the time?
3) How does making a post that implicates me and firebringer make it so I go from second scumread to first scumread and firebringer goes from first scumread to second scumread?
yes

consensus probably was a factor, idk tbh

I'm gonna say it doesn't make sense
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Post Post #657 (isolation #66) » Tue Jul 09, 2019 7:01 pm

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In post 655, Sleepless Assassin wrote:Why Is oka the leading wagon anyway
I assume multiple people SR him

My bottom read is currently on Oka, I am willing to accept Firebringer or Dunn as compromise lynches.
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Post Post #676 (isolation #67) » Wed Jul 10, 2019 5:21 am

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In post 673, Oversoul wrote:I think Oka is town after reading his interactions with Temp. The thought processes and frustration feel genuine enough that I am no longer comfortable to vote Oka off the island. Fellow
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How is me and Oka a TvT interaction?
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Post Post #678 (isolation #68) » Wed Jul 10, 2019 5:26 am

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In post 677, Oversoul wrote:I don’t want to vote Oka anymore because he legitimately was investigating you and probing your motivations/reasoning and it didn’t look like something he just fabricated
You can say that but that doesn't explain why his wagon suddenly just fizzled
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Post Post #681 (isolation #69) » Wed Jul 10, 2019 5:31 am

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In post 680, Oversoul wrote::? It fizzled because he made townie posts?
oka is starting to look townier but that's only a drop in a pool
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Post Post #684 (isolation #70) » Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:08 am

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In post 683, OkaPoka wrote:Skitter ur going to need to explain how temp's actions are town motivated.
explain how scum!you thinks I'm omega ultra lord scummy
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Post Post #706 (isolation #71) » Wed Jul 10, 2019 2:13 pm

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yeah I still have to vote oka
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Post Post #711 (isolation #72) » Wed Jul 10, 2019 2:15 pm

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In post 710, OkaPoka wrote:ill lynch skitter if it means i can get closer to lynching lich
skitter is town
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Post Post #713 (isolation #73) » Wed Jul 10, 2019 2:17 pm

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I can blow up my readlist and ignore half of D1, but I think skitter will still end up being town
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Post Post #716 (isolation #74) » Wed Jul 10, 2019 2:25 pm

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skimmed skitter's ISO, looks town
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Post Post #721 (isolation #75) » Wed Jul 10, 2019 2:38 pm

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I might null firebringer for being firebringer, a skim fails to ping me and is a good case
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Post Post #742 (isolation #76) » Wed Jul 10, 2019 3:03 pm

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In post 734, Firebringer wrote:
In post 716, TemporalLich wrote:skimmed skitter's ISO, looks town
Explain this more Temporal.
I didn't see anything scummy when I was skimming the ISO
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Post Post #744 (isolation #77) » Wed Jul 10, 2019 3:06 pm

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In post 743, OkaPoka wrote:im glad you and skitter continue to merge into one consciousness
this would probably be dangerous for time (and by extension spacetime)
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Post Post #746 (isolation #78) » Wed Jul 10, 2019 3:11 pm

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In post 745, Firebringer wrote:When u look for scummy things what r u typically looking for? And when you don't see those things do u assume that person is town then?

Ur read on skitter seems very empty.
things that feel sketchy or very convenient if they're scum

Nothing scummy is technically null, but my read was still a TR before since he was doing towny things like give reads and cases
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Post Post #750 (isolation #79) » Wed Jul 10, 2019 3:29 pm

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In post 747, OkaPoka wrote:so i can be town for giving reads and cases?
nice try, but you're scummy for insisting you're town, pseudo-OMGUS in , scummy logic in , defending firebringer, scumreading me for my votes being true, and you should read again because it still applies.

And you're definitely not a Town PR for taunting the scum...

pedit: i tried to sense
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Post Post #754 (isolation #80) » Wed Jul 10, 2019 3:32 pm

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In post 751, OkaPoka wrote:why did you bring up the town pr point again lol

im scumreading you for your reads, your votes just happen to make it very easy to see the contradiction
because I don't see you as a town PR...

not sure how I can explain my read on you tbh, you're just prob!scum to me, and this makes dunny town
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Post Post #756 (isolation #81) » Wed Jul 10, 2019 3:34 pm

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In post 755, Firebringer wrote:how does it make dunny town?
oka vs dunn is not SvS... there's no way a sane scumteam would bus each other that early
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Post Post #768 (isolation #82) » Wed Jul 10, 2019 3:38 pm

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In post 757, skitter30 wrote:
In post 705, OkaPoka wrote:
hurr durr okapoka u cant cherry pick ur own townie posts hurr durr

okapoka ur a scumbutt and here's why


these posts literally happen like 5 posts before

he is like oh yeah oops

after i make my post of how it literally cannot make sense for him to have these thoughts and actions
ok

why exactly do you find this to be problematic
because the progression outlined in that post is scummy
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Post Post #774 (isolation #83) » Wed Jul 10, 2019 3:40 pm

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because it's the exact opposite of votes being true... it's reads being able to effectively be commented out
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Post Post #788 (isolation #84) » Wed Jul 10, 2019 3:54 pm

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In post 787, skitter30 wrote:no

i don't think he's scum
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Post Post #798 (isolation #85) » Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:01 pm

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firebringer and dunn are my compromise lynches... skitter is not to be voted
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Post Post #800 (isolation #86) » Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:03 pm

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how in the universe am I and skitter contraaligned?
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Post Post #831 (isolation #87) » Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:54 pm

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In post 830, OkaPoka wrote:Scum going for a risky hammer on me can result in incrimination of both the hammerer and lich.
who is the lich in this context?
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Post Post #832 (isolation #88) » Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:54 pm

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I thought this was a normal game
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Post Post #890 (isolation #89) » Thu Jul 11, 2019 12:54 pm

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In post 861, Kop wrote:Skitter as pretty much sat on Oka for nearly 700 posts, as two other possibilities of who could be scum, but I don't recall Skitter engaging with them.
I don't really like that vote
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Post Post #893 (isolation #90) » Thu Jul 11, 2019 2:33 pm

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We're under time pressure and the town is still hopelessly fractured?

Who are you willing to compromise vote, if this becomes necessary?
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Post Post #907 (isolation #91) » Thu Jul 11, 2019 3:16 pm

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I'm thinking the scumteam is probably okapoka/firebringer. If oka flips green, dunn is likely scum
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Post Post #956 (isolation #92) » Fri Jul 12, 2019 3:18 am

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In post 954, Dunnstral wrote:I don't think conversing with you further will be beneficial and I've made up my mind
alright, I can freely assume your skitter SR is bologna
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Post Post #967 (isolation #93) » Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:16 am

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In post 963, OkaPoka wrote:Dirty as in threatening skitter to get her to move


VOTE: lich
I have zero context for this post so it looks extremely out of place and scummy.
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Post Post #974 (isolation #94) » Fri Jul 12, 2019 11:40 am

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there aren't enough consensus on wagons for me to cede my vote on one of my compromise lynches
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Post Post #999 (isolation #95) » Fri Jul 12, 2019 3:17 pm

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In post 987, OkaPoka wrote:Lich are you willing to die for skitter?
No I am not
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Post Post #1025 (isolation #96) » Sat Jul 13, 2019 1:34 am

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I think I am willing to compromise on Kop though Oka (my ideal vote) is still the wagon.

I'd rather NL then vote skitter. Thats how towny skitter is.
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Post Post #1118 (isolation #97) » Sat Jul 13, 2019 11:14 am

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Holy heck I got flashwagoned

Yeah I am not self-voting
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Post Post #1123 (isolation #98) » Sat Jul 13, 2019 11:23 am

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In post 1121, OkaPoka wrote:So Lich you keeping your vote where its at?
if there were actually a wagon on Kop I would have shifted my vote.

Since I'm at L-1 my vote stays on actual scum.
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Post Post #1124 (isolation #99) » Sat Jul 13, 2019 11:24 am

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considering Kop claimed mailman, that's a good reason for me to not vote Kop either way
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Post Post #1128 (isolation #100) » Sat Jul 13, 2019 11:27 am

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In post 1126, callforjudgement wrote:There was a wagon on Kop earlier (which was only 1 vote short).

As it is, the wagon may be unlikely to reform because OkaPoka is unlikely to move there if he thinks he can force your lynch instead.
alright, if scum want to lynch me then I'm not looking to die because of scum.

VOTE: Kop

Sorry, but you are the weakest link.
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Post Post #1134 (isolation #101) » Sat Jul 13, 2019 11:40 am

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In post 1133, callforjudgement wrote:Neither of those are viable wagons.

I would prefer Lich over Skitter, and don't think there are the votes available to lynch Oversoul.
you know what, I'm taking this as intent and claiming

The fact Kop claimed is a major blessing to me. I'm a TA, therefore Kop is basically a miller fmpov
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Post Post #1146 (isolation #102) » Sat Jul 13, 2019 11:53 am

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VOTE: Dunnstral

L-1

Better than a Kop lynch imo
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Post Post #1160 (isolation #103) » Tue Jul 16, 2019 11:00 am

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I have a white X on firebringer
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Post Post #1162 (isolation #104) » Tue Jul 16, 2019 11:06 am

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In post 1161, Firebringer wrote:whats a white x
No Result

I couldn't determine if you can privately communicate.
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Post Post #1168 (isolation #105) » Tue Jul 16, 2019 11:40 am

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VOTE: OkaPoka

Green Dunn implicates you as scum.

I didn't TA check you as it would be way too obvious a cop check, and I don't need to be WIFOMed into thinking you could be a neighbor or mason
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Post Post #1172 (isolation #106) » Tue Jul 16, 2019 12:13 pm

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skitter, if you were an investigative would you check your bottom read?
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Post Post #1173 (isolation #107) » Tue Jul 16, 2019 12:14 pm

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anyway if I'm alive and I got NRed, I think there is a scum JK
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Post Post #1178 (isolation #108) » Tue Jul 16, 2019 3:14 pm

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I would be fooled by a Neighbor or Mason or Mailman though, I'm a TA.
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Post Post #1181 (isolation #109) » Tue Jul 16, 2019 3:16 pm

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mailman is as close to a TA miller as you can get though
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Post Post #1184 (isolation #110) » Tue Jul 16, 2019 3:20 pm

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In post 1182, skitter30 wrote:Right, so why were you worried about oka being a ta miller ... ?
I didn't check oka because it would be way too obvious...

plus and made firebringer an interesting check to me
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Post Post #1187 (isolation #111) » Tue Jul 16, 2019 3:23 pm

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I was hoping to get a clear anyway
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Post Post #1211 (isolation #112) » Wed Jul 17, 2019 2:07 am

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not really sure if SA can do the popcorn thing
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Post Post #1213 (isolation #113) » Wed Jul 17, 2019 2:25 am

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I think it's a scum JK and not a scum RB, why else would I be alive and NRed?
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Post Post #1215 (isolation #114) » Wed Jul 17, 2019 2:29 am

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In post 1214, skitter30 wrote:
In post 1209, Kop wrote:I sent a message to Callforjudgement, I was torn between her or Lich, but with Lich claiming what he had, I thought he would have been the one that was targeted.
So the fact that you happened to send it to the person who died makes me slightly more dubious of ur claim

Should we set up an order for mass-claim? Or should i just go next?
I think Oka wants to do claims popcorn style, see
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Post Post #1314 (isolation #115) » Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:16 pm

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In post 1313, OkaPoka wrote:temp do u understand why id go

pew pew on u
yeah you want my role to be "taken care of"
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Post Post #1317 (isolation #116) » Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:23 pm

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In post 1315, OkaPoka wrote:lich why would i highly prefer if u were dead rather than alive if im trying to live
right now I can clear people

or if I got a red check I'd force them to claim, they'd have to give good reasons for being a neighbor/mason or mailman.
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Post Post #1319 (isolation #117) » Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:26 pm

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In post 1318, OkaPoka wrote:lich do you understand that even if I could make you unable to do anything at night, you being alive during the day is highly detrimental to me being alive during the day
you think I'm pretty much an IC so sure I guess
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Post Post #1321 (isolation #118) » Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:30 pm

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In post 1320, OkaPoka wrote:Cool so you agree that you being alive makes me living harder?
yeah... either way you've made a tactical blunder... if I die N2 and you're alive you're immediately suspect
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Post Post #1323 (isolation #119) » Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:43 pm

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In post 1322, OkaPoka wrote:Okay lich step 2.

Do you understand why you getting NK'd n2 does not make me more suspect?
dude, you said you as scum would do it... you'd be implicated in a TL nightkill

It's not like you'd be lynched D3 unerringly, my role claim is too strong to ignore
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Post Post #1326 (isolation #120) » Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:47 pm

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In post 1325, OkaPoka wrote:as in if you were the nk people wouldnt be like ok only okapoka would make that kill
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Post Post #1327 (isolation #121) » Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:49 pm

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at this point I believe Oka has townslipped

I will unvote until the popcorning is done

UNVOTE:
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Post Post #1331 (isolation #122) » Wed Jul 17, 2019 7:26 pm

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No sane scum would leave an IC alive. The scum strategy Oka describes in feels very contrived, and a bit loo late considering popcorning is done. Yeah, I'm pretty much an IC now. I think scum leaving an IC alive is a tactical blunder. IC's can't be dealt with by mislynch, scum need to nightkill them for them to die.

Oka, I think you've townslipped with your scum strategy posts.

yeah I highly suspect there's a scum JK or RB running around.

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I feel like I trust your VT claim the least. Especially considering I got NRed on you.

That being said, my sights are still on Kop, he's still basically a miller right now.

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CFJ sure was townread by everyone, but an IC CFJ is not.

2 would be an interesting plan, and yet you blabbing this makes me TR you harder since no sane scum would do that
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Post Post #1335 (isolation #123) » Thu Jul 18, 2019 1:16 pm

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I think from that VCA I don't like Kop.
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Post Post #1338 (isolation #124) » Thu Jul 18, 2019 4:44 pm

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In post 1337, Kop wrote:
In post 1335, TemporalLich wrote:I think from that VCA I don't like Kop.
What's not to like?
mostly the Dunn hammer in , which is one post away from being my L-1 vote
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Post Post #1343 (isolation #125) » Thu Jul 18, 2019 4:55 pm

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In post 1340, Sleepless Assassin wrote:Temp can you walk me through why you think youre an IC?
try reading where claiming started, I claimed Traffic Analyst and got a NR on Firebringer, and the claims from other people seem to support this.
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Post Post #1346 (isolation #126) » Thu Jul 18, 2019 4:58 pm

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either way I don't think Kop is scum, just that Oka's VCA doesn't bode well for Kop. For one I mostly agree with the reads in , though I don't SR Oka now
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Post Post #1401 (isolation #127) » Fri Jul 19, 2019 6:38 am

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Firebringer might be normal.
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Post Post #1420 (isolation #128) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 12:05 am

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I really don't think SA trusts that I'm the traffic analyst (the NR doesn't help). The popcorn claims means I an an uncontested TA.

The nightkill is a spicy one, and it coincidentally made the mailman unable to confirm himself.

Yeah, I am willing to jump ship, but I still scumread firebringer.
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Post Post #1433 (isolation #129) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 11:43 am

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My vote's still on Firebringer, but I am willing to be on the SA wagon
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Post Post #1471 (isolation #130) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 5:16 pm

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I trust Kop's mailman claim, but that doesn't mean Kop is an IC in my mind.

Kop claimed mailman in before I claimed TA in , so it's not like he knew he was effectively claiming miller
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Post Post #1478 (isolation #131) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 5:20 pm

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okay yeah is a townslip indeed, makes it less likely to be contrived
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Post Post #1507 (isolation #132) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 2:04 am

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I don't see much in nsg's ISO, nsg would be a hard compromise vote, I'd say looks the best from nsg's ISO
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Post Post #1514 (isolation #133) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 11:15 am

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hot take: firebringer flipping scum means skitter might be scum too
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Post Post #1535 (isolation #134) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 12:02 pm

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In post 1531, skitter30 wrote:
In post 1514, TemporalLich wrote:hot take: firebringer flipping scum means skitter might be scum too
How did u arrive to this conclusion?
skimming firebringer's ISO looking for associatives
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Post Post #1560 (isolation #135) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 11:37 pm

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yeah it seems people are on the nsg wagon due to lack of effort, I don't get it tbh
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Post Post #1568 (isolation #136) » Mon Jul 22, 2019 1:04 pm

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I'm going to agree with everyone that nsg should give reads
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Post Post #1582 (isolation #137) » Tue Jul 23, 2019 1:27 am

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it's very disappointing but we cannot afford to wait. I'm willing to vote SA.
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Post Post #1585 (isolation #138) » Tue Jul 23, 2019 1:38 am

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In post 1583, Firebringer wrote:game is just boring. Someone needs to do something exciting.

Someone fake a guilty.
but I already got a no result on you
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Post Post #1587 (isolation #139) » Tue Jul 23, 2019 1:40 am

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In post 1586, Firebringer wrote:did u just admit to faking a no result on me or am i nuts?
my no result is real
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Post Post #1602 (isolation #140) » Tue Jul 23, 2019 2:08 pm

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In post 1599, OkaPoka wrote:i have an idea

in exactly 12 hours

me skitter and lich will all vote the same person (putting them at l1)

lich chooses who we vote

so town it up in 12 hours or ur being l1'd
take your pick of firebringer or SA, I'm fine with either
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Post Post #1605 (isolation #141) » Tue Jul 23, 2019 2:12 pm

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firebringer then
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Post Post #1613 (isolation #142) » Tue Jul 23, 2019 5:46 pm

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I think nsg's Oka vote is town-motivated

I still think Oka's townslipped with his scum strategy posts, but nsg's case raises interesting questions
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Post Post #1614 (isolation #143) » Tue Jul 23, 2019 5:47 pm

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then again I agree with the sentiment in , if only because the game feels stalled
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Post Post #1629 (isolation #144) » Tue Jul 23, 2019 6:06 pm

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oka why are you making a scumcase against yourself
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Post Post #1633 (isolation #145) » Tue Jul 23, 2019 6:07 pm

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if oka was trying to kamikaze nsg, it failed
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Post Post #1643 (isolation #146) » Tue Jul 23, 2019 6:18 pm

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VOTE: OkaPoka

If you're trying to scumcase yourself to make nsg look like a scumlord, not only is it not working but the town motivation in your self-scumcase is shattered.
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Post Post #1684 (isolation #147) » Wed Jul 24, 2019 5:55 am

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skitter, it's pretty obvious Oka is trying to make nsg look bad.

I'm not willing to vote nsg now. OkaPoka and SA are good votes, firebringer is fine too.
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Post Post #1687 (isolation #148) » Wed Jul 24, 2019 6:20 am

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... I think SA scumclaimed
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Post Post #1688 (isolation #149) » Wed Jul 24, 2019 6:21 am

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VOTE: Sleepless Assassin

L-1


Not only are you voting nsg, but you townread Oka?!

That's how scum works.
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Post Post #1690 (isolation #150) » Wed Jul 24, 2019 6:25 am

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In post 1689, skitter30 wrote:I'm confused, say that again really slowly
Sleepless Assassin is voting northsidegal and townreads OkaPoka (or at least is unwilling to vote OkaPoka).

I consider Sleepless Assassin lockscum for this.
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Post Post #1691 (isolation #151) » Wed Jul 24, 2019 6:26 am

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Mainly because it's obvious OkaPoka is scumcasing himself to make northsidegal look either scummy and/or lazy.
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Post Post #1694 (isolation #152) » Wed Jul 24, 2019 6:31 am

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your nsg vote is still scummy especially considering it's paired with (re)stating your oka townread (the self-scumcase to bring nsg down might be worth SRing oka for, but (re)stating your oka townread means you've seen it and still townread oka)

also I consider nsg locktown now
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Post Post #1698 (isolation #153) » Wed Jul 24, 2019 6:43 am

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I'm sure scum think northsidegal is a viable mislynch because of OkaPoka
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