Micro 576 - Word Sneak Mafia 2: Even Sneakier! (Game Over)

[lane0168]

VOTE: marquis

Whats going on my brothers and sisters?

[lane0168]

Lol most recent vote count suggests marquis is no longer in this game

[lane0168]

Or never was. Wtf did I replace into?!

lol wtf

[lane0168]

I didn't create that wall ftr

I still have 4 words I need to use

Lmfao

[lane0168]

Alright after a very interrupted day long read through I remember these things

Postie self vote is bad
Ari Townslip leans fake to me
Bnl's point about davsto I think was good but what I really didn't like was davstos reaction trying to say it was clear he was blatantly calling for a cop on Postie. That's not true.
I am with flubber about being wary on gl's play here.
Pancakes are disgusting
The cow is worthless
H&h seems town to me

VOTE: davsto

[lane0168]

H&h was blatant. Davsto was like inception. But the reaction is the reason for my vote. Plus inception is really stupid

[lane0168]

Oops, sorry I thought it was only 3 votes

[lane0168]

Postie self vote is bad
Ari Townslip leans fake to me
Bnl's point about davsto I think was good but what I really didn't like was davstos reaction trying to say it was clear he was blatantly calling for a cop on Postie. That's not true.
I am with flubber about being wary on gl's play here.
Pancakes are disgusting
The cow is worthless
H&h seems town to me

This is a lot of shade for a game with only 2 scum. It reads to me like you're just listing out things that are anti-town (Postie's self-vote, the cow's ISO) without scumreading the people who did them or trying to develop reads based on them.

If Ari's townslip is fake, wouldn't that make him scum? Why would town fake a townslip?

Huh? Yes a fake slip would make him scum... Figured that would be implied. Cause... Why would town fake a townslip?

Posties self vote is bad, as in I don't like it. As in I think that's scummy.

Cows iso is shit and is unreadable.

I'm here to find scum... Why would I keep my scum reads to 2 people? That's fucking stupid

Speaking of which, a lot of shade?! 4 people in a 2 scum game is A LOT OF SHADE?! Yeah I pointed out things I didn't think we're pro- town. Sorry I'm not holding my scum reads to a pair of 2 and trying to figure out scum partners yet.

[lane0168]

@davsto...
After a day long very interrupted read through here is what I remember...

Which part of that sentence lead you to believe that anything following would be deep and full of intense case building?

[lane0168]

I'm thinking marquis is fruit vendor

[lane0168]

I'm thinking marquis is fruit vendor

Oops. Disregard.

[lane0168]

So lane's predecessor has no posts and replaced out

Lane's single content post is shallow, takes safe opinions on easy things.

Lane/BNL scumteam gg

That's cute. Like Peter Jacksons pet baby lamb.

And what does having no posts from my predecessor have anything to do with it?

[lane0168]

Sword never picked up the role pm... You, my fine fellow, are making assumptions that can be verified, yet you don't bother to check into them, you just throw them out there as truth. And that is scummy

[lane0168]

Dav, why the seemingly sudden switch to not wanting Postie copped?

He got pressured. He needs to try to make us look bad

[lane0168]

Sword never picked up the role pm... You, my fine fellow, are making assumptions that can be verified, yet you don't bother to check into them, you just throw them out there as truth. And that is scummy

You're the one making assumptions here. I never said your predecessor just flaking was alignment indicative. It was merely "yeh loads of useful stuff from this slot wow how town /s"

Also, the mod never said that anywhere as far as I can see, so fuck that general noise when you're acting like I'm pulling stuff out of wherever I can.

Uhhh... No. You said it right before you said my post was shallow and safe. Which was right before you said I was scum... You were implying they flaked because they were scum. You are pulling it out from wherever you can.

Then you didn't look very hard, or even care to question it. Cause it doesn't matter to scum, like you.

[lane0168]

Dav, why the seemingly sudden switch to not wanting Postie copped?

He got pressured. He needs to try to make us look bad

Oh yeah, I'm the one throwing random things out.



VOTE: lane

that was tongue in cheek.

[lane0168]

I'm OK with it. Cop can check whoever they think is scummy. Or whoever people is scummy. Or null if that's how people like to do it.

[lane0168]

Okay now I'm really unsure about Ari

That "drunk post" looks fake. Just me?

Why would someone fake a drunk post?

[lane0168]

I didn't like the "if my town flip helps, coo." part though

[lane0168]

Ok I could see that.

[lane0168]

Also - and I'm probably going to be RVS voted for saying this - you have no idea how relieved I am to be town.

Alright, Postie is town!
This wagon sucks anyway

(Also, if we could keep civil, that'd be swell)

Can do captain!

So, back to this stuff, who is scum again?

Why are you only trying to sort Postie, RC?

What's this implying?

That I'd like to see your feelers on everyone else as well.

Unless there's a specific reason for the Postie focus. In which case, continue.

I mean it ends with that makes a heck of a lot more sense but I don't really feel like anything was obtained from the line of questioning, and at the beginning it definitely felt like he was trying to scumhunt me but that sort of petered out and just went into questions with no purpose behinds the answers.

-Halo

The questions petered out because I realized it wasn't alignment indicative and dropped it.
You haven't done much else today yet so how else am I to sort you?

How about some reads from you guys?

so gut

Was there any point to this comment?

No offences meant, but TheCow was fairly useless the last game I played with him..
Don't remember the role he held but I remember it being mentioned as frustrating but not indicative either.

I'd like to see more though.
How about a town and a scum read from you, Cow.

I can dig this for now.

Why?

I didn't like the light cop directing myself and I feel like this is a good start for a preliminary read.

If they start making bad reads, this will change. I won't know until they progress further with their reads as the game goes on though.

So do you just disagree with it, or do you actually think it's scummy? If it's scummy, why?

Normally, merely disagree but think little of it.
From Davsto, it gives me a twinge. I could see him doing so as scum, so I do give it more of a possible scum indication than normal in this case.

But Dav, as BLP pointed out, did so in an "under the table" kind of way, and it read scummy to me.

Ahh yes

The under the table "basically literally asking for them to do it" way

How observant of you.

Well, talk to me then.

What are your reads?
We're you part of the Postie Scum Masterpiece?
What's your favourite word to sneak into conversation?
What do you think of the H&H Hydra?

I think I'm starting to lean scum on Ari than davsto.

He asked for peoples reads much more than hes given any of his own, Postie town, Davsto scum.

Posted a whole bunch of filler. Like a whole heap.

I think he knew scum can't talk about their words, and his reaction when he "found out" seems genuinely fake. Oh really? Wow! Good job aero!

And I really don't like if my town flip helps coo. Feigning indifference if you ask me.

VOTE: aristophanes

L-1

[lane0168]

I was trying not to have those quotes in there sorry. But theyre basically his reads, and his asking for reads. May or may not be all of them, I abandoned trying to quote them.

[lane0168]

Hey Ari

Join me on lane please?

Why would he? What's his reason? Omgus like you?

[lane0168]

Also, town says 'my town flip' all the time so that's completely non indicative in my view.

Umm, that's only part of what he said so... Not sure why you picked just three words

[lane0168]

His reasons for scumreading Ari feel textbook and fake

Lol that reason could also fell textbook and fake...

[lane0168]

Also, town, don't forget that scum can share their lists, so they already have the upper hand on us with regards to the double vote.

Oh wow, that's good!
GG Aero!

Most of it probably is textbook. But not take.

And how does this reaction seem real at all?

[lane0168]

You just said that is your whole case on me!! Are you joking?

[lane0168]

You obviously haven't bothered to read his posts... Why is that? Is rather not quote all the filler

[lane0168]

Feels like you're arguing I am scum without considering the possibility I am town.

When your case can be used against you, then you know it's wrong

[lane0168]

You obviously haven't bothered to read his posts... Why is that? Is rather not quote all the filler

This was for guilty, but I'm glad you looked flub

[lane0168]

Yes,

And I think you shouldn't hammer flub

[lane0168]

lane do you seriously believe that?

Basically everything you're saying I'm doing, is what you're doing

[lane0168]

It makes you a sub par scum hunter mostly, and possible scum, considering what you say I'm doing, is wrong.

[lane0168]

When you say that I sound fake when I say that someone else sounds fake... You think us a good case?

[lane0168]

Not too mention its not even my entire case. It is, however, your entire case on me

[lane0168]

So who do you think is scummier? Someone who uses fakeness as part of their case (me) or someone who uses fakeness as their entire case (you)

[lane0168]

why the hell are we rushing a lynch with 11 days left in D1?

This game needs another reasonable, patient player, like Cheetory6 or Grib or Aquanim

I don't believe giving ari a chance to give a reads list before declaring intent is a bad thing. Considering Ari has reeads to put down, all he has to do is type them.

[lane0168]

I don't know that it's been decided. If he doesn't give reads that he supposedly has been building throughout the last 13 pages, I think its a good Lynch. Do you agree?

[lane0168]

Really. Because he was posting today and yesterday.

He said he would drop by later. And post reads soon...

What does that mean to you, because to me it means today

Why are you unvoting? He's not going to get lynched.

[lane0168]

Postie, you're very unnecessarily afraid of quick hammers. Why?

[lane0168]

It makes you a sub par scum hunter mostly, and possible scum, considering what you say I'm doing, is wrong.

This is a dodge - "possible scum" - am I scum or not?

Lane, I already explained the difference between calling someone out for fake

tone

vs fake

reasoning

. Do you not understand that distinction?

I don't have to decide if you're scum based on one thing. That's ridiculous and you calling it a Dodge is bs.

So what's the difference? And you're calling me out for fake reasoning? And I'm calling Ari out on fake tone? For the 1 part of my case?

[lane0168]

So, Aristophanes tone is real. And my reasoning is fake.

[lane0168]

No one will hammer. He stated intent to state intent to hammer IF Ari didn't give reads. That's still 2 steps away. It's ok

[lane0168]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=64595

[lane0168]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=64495

[lane0168]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=62033

[lane0168]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=22150

[lane0168]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=21425

[lane0168]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=21415

No wonder I'm so bad at mafia. I never fucking wee it to the end.

I'm going tostop that cause that's just wrong. I just suck so bad

[lane0168]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=17168

Just sad. 2011. Best scum game I ever had not in a multi. Didn't replace out

[lane0168]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=16877

My lone win at end game as scum. In a multiball

[lane0168]

That's all my scum games postie

[lane0168]

Anyone quick hammering will get a vote Park from me. That's just how it is for me. So I'm not really scared of anyone doing it

[lane0168]

I missed one. I made it to end game as sk once with guilty

[lane0168]

So why couldn't you give that reads list on your phone again? Certainly didn't need a computer for that!

[lane0168]

Jesus. I can't tell if these stories are the words, or stories made up around the words.

[lane0168]

Or if Postie is a drunk in denial

[lane0168]

The fuck...

[lane0168]

The fuck...

To whom is this directed?

It was at Postie...

I'm refraining from posting anything else for the moment

[lane0168]

Hey BNL... Where you at? Put your words down or forever hold your peace.

I should say I'm refraining from saying what I actually want to say for a moment

[lane0168]

Thank god. The fuck was the point of that?

[lane0168]

Lol bull fucking shit that was seamless! That means during your normal scum game!

[lane0168]

Like you can't tell what post its even in.

[lane0168]

Fight the good fight
Dr. Who
Ika
The thing about that is...
Blasphemy

[lane0168]

Aero may hate himself looking for all the words we're supposed to say

[lane0168]

It's pretty good eh?

[lane0168]

Who even knows anymore what those 5 little words mean

[lane0168]

Alright... What I wanted to say before but refrained from saying is that I really didn't like Bnl's post AT ALL. I'm amazed at the audacity to snip that sentence and play it off as a major scum slip. I was hoping he was going to be watching for a reaction, but it appears he just dropped it off and left.

VOTE: bnl

[lane0168]

Thankfully theres not much there

[lane0168]

H&h, you don't care about Bnl's blatant snipping and shit misrepresentation?

[lane0168]

We do have a cop

[lane0168]

Rc, come back to us. Look at the post. It's scummy as Fuck.

[lane0168]

Lol, I mean rc has a point here.

Postie, if you were scum, what would the conversation consist of about the cop in an open setup?

[lane0168]

Scum1: hey theres a cop. We should try to get them dead
Scum2: Uh yeah, no fucking shit you stupid fuck

[lane0168]

Soo.... You're scum partners and that's why she was voting you earlier?

[lane0168]

Just chill rc, we're friends for once. I'm feeling this out and kinda might be in your side for once

[lane0168]

RC, why are you even trying to get me lynched first when your entire case on me depends on associatives with Aristo?

The reason I haven't voted you.

Id rather vote Ari. But I'd rather lynch bnl for that bs and then dipping out

[lane0168]

No don't talk to him. He caught up. Make him say things himself

[lane0168]

Its going to be great, some sherlock holmes shit

I'm excite! Very excite!

[lane0168]

Jesus christ he's trolling us with his words lol

[lane0168]

Lol I think at least

[lane0168]

What?

[lane0168]

I mean to be honest, I was confused like Ari was and didn't even think of the fact bnl didn't vote. Just said wait to hammer

[lane0168]

BNL didn't even address how snipping... Not moving my vote.

BNL, WHY DID YOU SNIP ARI'S QUOTE TO MAKE HIM LOOK SCUMM?

[lane0168]

Postie, again doesn't like a wagon that might actually go to lynch... Don't like all the hopping off wagons.

Rc, you may have been right about Postie, and now theyre just hopping off so they can say see? I did it with bnl too. Possibly.

Postie, why do you get off every wagon that gets momentum? I'm starting to get the feeling you don't actually believe in any of the wagons you have been on and are just trying to look town. If you believed in even one of them, you would have stayed on it

[lane0168]

Actually the amount of support for the BNL lynch is concerning. I think every single person except H&H, TheCow, and Flubber has pushed the wagon. I'm townreading H&H and TheCow, so that leaves BNL/Flubber as the only likely scumteam if BNL is scum - but then, why not lynch Flubber since he's going to be harder to read?

UNVOTE:

Wtf? You want to make your scum team now, and one of them has momentum, but you want to lynch the other one because they're harder to read, so you unvote, but don't put your vote anywhere else? Wtf? That's all sorts of crap

[lane0168]

BNL didn't even address how snipping... Not moving my vote.

BNL, WHY DID YOU SNIP ARI'S QUOTE TO MAKE HIM LOOK SCUMM?

I wasn't trying to make him look scummy. It was me getting out my thoughts.

Your thoughts? Why did you snip the sentence? Why did you edit the quote?

[lane0168]

It was an obvious joke, you edited it to make it look scummy. Stop lying.

How was it irrelevant at all?

You saw a self contradiction, with a joke attached, and you found that to be irrelevant. Why was it irrelevant when it was clearly the part that distinguished the entire sentence as a joke?

Surely you can see the relevancy here

[lane0168]

Oh wow, that's good!
GG Aero!

Read this. Out loud. To yourself. Whatever you are right now. Exactly how it is written with punctuation. And tell me it sounds real

[lane0168]

It was an obvious joke, you edited it to make it look scummy. Stop lying.

How was it irrelevant at all?

You saw a self contradiction, with a joke attached, and you found that to be irrelevant. Why was it irrelevant when it was clearly the part that distinguished the entire sentence as a joke?

Surely you can see the relevancy here

At that point I was just skimming through text and wasn't paying attention to the context of the quote.

Soo.... Looking for something scummy, without actually reading what anyone was saying. Or was that just for Ari since he had the largest wagon at the time?

[lane0168]

Just the fact that he thought of it puts him in a mafia mindset too if you ask me

[lane0168]

Who is marbles and toastie? Why are you using nicknames for people's nicknames?

[lane0168]

I'm not town

-Halo

Edited post here points to halo as obvi scum.

Now lilith, can you explain why you don't have a problem with it? Or why you can't see what we don't like about it?

[lane0168]

I didn't add anything either. Just omitted parts that I didn't find relevant. The excuse BNL gave

[lane0168]

I'm trying to make certain things sound scummy?

That's funny you don't see how bnl made ARI'S post look scummy

[lane0168]

You're phrasing it as if BNL used this snipped quote and insisted that Aristo was scum because of it, but he never used that quote to base a case or push on. He said he questioned what he thought was a contradiction because he didn't get the joke (and I don't think this is that unusual). I don't think it was a deliberate misrepresentation if he was taking Aristo's words at face value, and genuinely thought that Aristo was contradicting himself in the first half of the sentence and the second half was irrelevant. I'm pretty sure I've seen this before from people who don't live in English-dominated countries.

You joking? Brb

[lane0168]

Postie, this pleases me immensely!

Though you're probably scum

Uh

Town Lean: Postie, H&H

Please don't hammer yet, though. I haven't gotten all my words in yet.

Please don't hammer yet, though....

This doesn't look like bnl used this snipped quote and insisted Ari was scum because of it?!?!?! You fucking kidding?

[lane0168]

Warming to the idea of an Aristo or lane lynch. The BNL-was-misrepping argument is stupid. I'd prefer lane over Aristo though because Aristo's townslips remind me of when I kept townslipping in Newbie 1664 and Frozen Angel was all "OMG stop making fake townslips!" when really I was just an idiot.

VOTE: lane

Yeah, I'm wagon hopping again. Deal with it.

How the fuck is that a stupid argument?you're right ...though ...it's not an argument .it's clearly a total misrep

[lane0168]

Postie, why do you get off every wagon that gets momentum?

Because either the person reacts to the pressure in a town way (Davsto) or the momentum gained feels unnatural and people are giving stupid reasons for getting on the wagon (BNL).

If you believed in even one of them, you would have stayed on it

lol

Actually the amount of support for the BNL lynch is concerning. I think every single person except H&H, TheCow, and Flubber has pushed the wagon. I'm townreading H&H and TheCow, so that leaves BNL/Flubber as the only likely scumteam if BNL is scum - but then, why not lynch Flubber since he's going to be harder to read?

UNVOTE:

Wtf? You want to make your scum team now, and one of them has momentum, but you want to lynch the other one because they're harder to read, so you unvote, but don't put your vote anywhere else? Wtf? That's all sorts of crap

No, either you're misunderstanding completely or misrepping. I'm saying that the only likely way the BNL wagon could have gotten this much support is if the scumteam is BNL/Flubber, but Flubber is harder to read, so even if this was the case it would be silly to lynch BNL first.
I don't want to lynch Flubber today though, because a likelier explanation for the BNL wagon getting so much support is that it's being driven by scum.

Oh wow, that's good!
GG Aero!

Read this. Out loud. To yourself. Whatever you are right now. Exactly how it is written with punctuation. And tell me it sounds real

No, that's not how it works. The burden of proof is on you. Why does it sound scummy?

OK. So when will you be in a wagon you actually believe in? That's my question?

[lane0168]

I've not given a single town read? You wanna do your research over or want me to let you know I've clearly called H&h town, will now call town TheCow, and had bnl townish until that bs misrep

[lane0168]

It's there a problem with getting to find scum and changing reads? I mean you're ridiculous postie

[lane0168]

Go ahead and attack me for pointing out you haven't had a solid read once a keep unvoting you scum reads.... I know rc will avenge me so I'm not scared

[lane0168]

OK. So when will you be in a wagon you actually believe in? That's my question?

I like

this

wagon a lot.

See it to the end then, you scum

[lane0168]

Oh what? Cause I didn't change them from a scum read to an explicit town read? Let me tell you Postie, nobody that I've had a scum read on has moved to my town reads. You got a problem with that? Yes. You do.

Why does the fact I said that mean I have to change scum reads to town reads?

[lane0168]

Ari bullet scum reads
Haven't thought about davsto recently
Should be obvious why. I'm not going to look for it right now

But why do I have to change scum reads to town reads? Like you implied I should have to buy changing reads? Bnl change 180. Davsto I guess null cause I haven't been paying attention to him.

[lane0168]

It's also pretty convenient for you that the only people you haven't called scum are those that have supported getting the people you want lynched lynched.

Please Postie. Tell me if this is a scum tell or town tell. Right now. Tell me why town wouldn't support other people scum reading their scum reads.

Please reply to this post on its own

[lane0168]

Ok do your thing postie. I'm not concerned with my lynch if you can do it. But you're wrong. Your reasoning is bad, but I'm not a detrimental lynch

[lane0168]

Postie.... So a favor for me cause I've already done it. Tell me the players you haven't called scum so far.... And then come at me with your case again

[lane0168]

Warming to the idea of an Aristo or lane lynch. The BNL-was-misrepping argument is stupid. I'd prefer lane over Aristo though because Aristo's townslips remind me of when I kept townslipping in Newbie 1664 and Frozen Angel was all "OMG stop making fake townslips!" when really I was just an idiot.

VOTE: lane

Yeah, I'm wagon hopping again. Deal with it.

Lol I just read Postie say they are leading all the wagons. And explicitly not jumping on wagons.

Its weird how she also thinks of herself as wagon hopping.

Thats all I have the energy to say today

[lane0168]

Warming to the idea of an Aristo or lane lynch. The BNL-was-misrepping argument is stupid. I'd prefer lane over Aristo though because Aristo's townslips remind me of when I kept townslipping in Newbie 1664 and Frozen Angel was all "OMG stop making fake townslips!" when really I was just an idiot.

VOTE: lane

Yeah, I'm wagon hopping again. Deal with it.

Lol what? Can you run my numbers?

[lane0168]

Well let's see it. What are they?

[lane0168]

Well then it doesn't really mean shit to us now does it?

[lane0168]

Excellent point guilty. I'm interested as well

[lane0168]

It's say town for Postie. If it wasn't for rc being all about it, I wouldn't even be looking at her at all

[lane0168]

Looking at = unsure at all about town read

[lane0168]

If you wanted to base it on meta alone, I'm obvi town

[lane0168]

days getting stagnant, lets start a couple real wagons

Any suggestions?

You could start by voting. The one essential part to a wagon

[lane0168]

It's say town for Postie. If it wasn't for rc being all about it, I wouldn't even be looking at her at all

Explain your Postie townread?

Not until you tell me why you haven't asked TheCow to explain any of his reads. Is it just cause hes not voting you?

[lane0168]

But seriously, I'll try to figure out if it's something more than a town feel, lots of activity, everything seems to be actual content, not a lot of fluff, trying to work out the game, that sort of thing.

[lane0168]

Well like I say, H&h puts doubt in my mind so that's where that comes from I believe

[lane0168]

VOTE: bnl

[lane0168]

Oops sorry VOTE: ari

[lane0168]

VOTE: bnl

Oops sorry VOTE: ari

How do you even??

I was on bnl. Was thinking about why H&h can't see bnl scum, while I was changing my vote

[lane0168]

VOTE: bnl

[lane0168]

Now I'm starting to dislike Lane. He's been wagon hopping all over the place (been on all 4-wagons so far), and I don't like how he claims to have a townread on Postie when his iso says completely otherwise.

Like the only reason to townread him is Meta, and that's eww.

Really? Just starting now? I mean i was on all the wagons pages ago... What's changed?

I'm on all the wagons, and then the other part of your case is im not scum reading another person? Lol.

Can we lunch bnl now?

[lane0168]

So you're scum reading me because I ultimately town read your town read, because I had negative interaction with her?

[lane0168]

You're just a couple small steps away from snipping my quotes and telling everyone I scum slipped

[lane0168]

That's me going back to the ari wagon.

[lane0168]

VOTE: bnl

Want me to explain this? Its me going back to the bnl wagon

[lane0168]

I'm not following your second post here. What's your point

[lane0168]

The second part about my 2 quotes

[lane0168]

Because I'm spiteful. And i was thinking if you got me lynched then rc would get you lynched. And I'd be happy that you got what you deserved.

Why would rc avenge me, by killing you, if I flipped scum?

[lane0168]

That was a tongue in cheek remark.

Why would rc avenge me, if I flipped scum? What would there be to avenge?

[lane0168]

If you can't see the difference between that remark, and where I actually give my reads, and are going to hop on Bnl's push, then maybe you are scum. Because there is a big difference

[lane0168]

Why would rc avenge me, if I flipped scum? What would there be to avenge?

The fact you're pushing your own (hypothetical) townslip as a reason to townread you makes me think you faked it.

The fact that I only realized it after you asked me makes me not care.

Tell me why its scummy when you were thinking it was real. Very convenient of you to think it's fishy when you think its genuine, then I explain why its a Townie statement, you think I faked that imparticular sentence, just so I could prove my Townieness in case someone asked about it, as if I was sure someone would ask about it specifically. And if no one didn't id go back to it myself and say "no! I'm not scum! Look at this sentence 10 pages ago! Why would I say this?"

You really think my posts look that thought out, and that sentence in particular? Give me a fuckin break Postie. That's terrible

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It's not my fault you can't make out what sentences actually mean and just call something scummy because you're unable to actually think it through yourself.

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You can still tell me the scum mindset it would be if it wasn't fake. Since apparently it's scum either way

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It's a classic case of making your case fit your reads and not letting a case build your reads. That's just bad all around

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So....

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Oops sorry VOTE: ari

Explain this?

That's me going back to the ari wagon.

That was a tongue in cheek remark.

OK, that clears up matters a lot.

Can you explain why you voted Ari (in 618), though?

Because my vote is more useful on a wagon, and Ari was a scum read.

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because you're unable to actually think it through yourself.

Or maybe irony doesn't translate well over the internet because it's extremely hard to judge intonation in written text.

BNL reads to me like transparently obvious scum

Explain?

toastie, talk about h&h for a second

You want my read? Back to leaning town on them, although I haven't thought it through very well at this point. At a glance, posts 247 and 593 feel like town-RC, but I'm too tired to actually try to properly articulate why right now or think deeper.

Where's the irony? Rc will avenge me? Why is that ironic? And answer be. Why, before you started thinking it was fake by genius scum lane, and before I explained to you why that remark is actually an off hand town remark, for you think it was scummy?

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Why did you think it was coming from scum in the first place? Cause that was confusing lol

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I think I read somewhere that Aristophanes claimed? I missed the actual claim if so.

Also, if lane flips town there is a good chance that bnl and Postie are scum together based on the timing of their push on him.

Ok then theres a good chance that are scum. Anyone that wants to push me is free to do so, but they're either scum, or they're the worst mafia player of all time. Or they've just never seen my scum and town game

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VOTE: bnl

Want me to explain this? Its me going back to the bnl wagon

This implicit threat earns you massive scum points

Threat? How is that a threat. And why does it earn my scum points? I'm explaining my votes to my scum read.

Massive? Wheres the vote?

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@Flubber, you made an initial push on Postie but seem to have dropped off in pressure. What is your read on her now? And how do you feel about GL?

Up until recently she hasn't done anything new to be scummy so my confidence is waning

I think I read somewhere that Aristophanes claimed? I missed the actual claim if so.

Also, if lane flips town there is a good chance that bnl and Postie are scum together based on the timing of their push on him.

And if only one of them Flips scum, flubber is a likely candidate.

I would say if Postie Flips scum...

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What a joke

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Wtf davsto? How is there not enough reason to town read me? You've seen my town game. You know this is it. What's your deal? What's your scum read for?

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Wait, you've seen my town game right?

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I'm not worried about you scum reading me and am pretty sure I'm not going to be the lynch. I'm worried that you're not playing a town game and scum reading people that might actually be scum

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@bullet, town

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Where have all the

cowboys

blitz games gone?

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Its a little arrogance but it's mostly a self awareness between my scum game and town game and the huge difference. Scum me gets lynched day 1 every time cause it's obvious. People that have seen my town game should know this is it

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Jeez I hope we get some activity from other people and actually can get a lynch tomorrow!

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I'm at the point where I need a flip to get back into the game. I'll admit I stopped trying for a bit here.

I'll ISO BLP and GL and make a vote so we don't NL.

Samesies. It happens when people feel like that have to take the full 2 weeks just cause they can

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I got nothing. Seriously.

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I'm just a poor boy, I need no sympathy..
Because I'm easy come, easy go
A little high, a little low
Any way the wind blows... doesn't really matter..... to me
To meeee

I didn't like the hammer because I still do not understand why everyone was scumreading BNL for the snip thing. But I'm not sure whether I think he's scum because I would have expected a cop claim? Although I guess it could have been a WIFOM thing because he'd know he'd be found out the next day?

I unvoted for the same reasons as you, but rereading, I don't get the sense Ari didn't even think of that, and am leaning back towards scum.

This day is weird. I don't get major town or scum vibes from anyone. Everyones cases feel like the same old thing. The end of yesterday drug on and on. I want my blitz games back. When bnl flipped I figured I'd go back and read into davsto.

And, idk, I get this gut feeling rc is scum playing safe around me. (I know I know, you don't give a fuck about be and aren't afraid of me catching you but you just seem... Subdued and it's freaking me out lol)

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VOTE: ari

I will try getting into this game again, but honestly, everyone feels the same. Like everyone's playing nice and not saying anything ridiculous. I wonder what the point of double vote is if it just takes am extra vote to lynch.

So no one knows if guilty thought he was lynched or not, but something smart is so "OMG that was crazy if you didn't fake that" it makes me have weird feelings.

I think Ari is scum and didn't even think of claiming cop when he got run up before

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Something smart, why do you think its such a crazy good reaction? It looks really fake able and mildly genuine. I'm not seeing the obvi town reaction youre seeing

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I'm so fucking lost. I come to this game 5 times a day hope to find something that sticks out to me. I think it's Ari. I don't... Idk. I could also sheep H&h.

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Alright. Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe I remember substantial talk about not hammering early because words don't count after a hammer...

So why did guiltylion put all his words in if he actually thought it was a hammer? He wouldn't get the double vote anyways if he thought he was dead.

Guilty? Care to weigh in? Makes me feel like you knew it wasn't a hammer.

Just trying to find something to get me back into this game

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Wait...a hammer?
I don't think I made more than two posts this phase :S

I don't think Postie Is Scum.

I don't like Large games really. Mini games are best, and Blitz games are super duper!

Zoroaster is a greased Administration. Mith is up there too. Thesp never read any messages I sent.

Look out GL!
I think I see Mister Clean right behind you!

Starwars was still the best movie in a long time, but Deadpool may be better. I need to see it first.

No clue how to work Christmas Tree in...

Wait...there wasn't a lunch?
Cool!
I'll read this tomorrow then!

Can we just vote Ari?

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Oops. Wasn't really trying to quote those bit whatever

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Also consider this about H&H: Normally town!RC gets really aggressive and offended when people scumread him or vote him. But meanwhile here I've been casting shade on his spot for literal days and he just kind of brushes it off or ignores it.

Lilith is usually a lot more questioning, a lot more involved. She openly admitted her scumgame is not great in the first Word Sneak mafia. And now here she's hardly posting, instead letting RC create the vast majority of output from that slot.

I've been thinking them being in a hydra probably affects these tells to some degree, but the pattern has lasted long enough into this game now that I want to call it out.

Normally rc gets really aggressive and offended as town? I'd say this is as scum. So you're pretty far off here. And it's probably as both

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3 prods eh? Lurking scum?

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If it wasn't for me also being completely lost then I might actually push that but I can relate

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I had a dream we lynched guilty in Lylo and lost and Ari was scum and won lol. Anyone here believe in seeing the future in your dreams?

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VOTE: guilty

Moving along

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I did. Impulse hammer. Sick of redundant walls going nowhere. Spicing things up a bit. Double vote doesn't matter

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Dammit. I wanted to push rc all day 2 but literally had nothing to go off of except gut. All well good game I sucked terribly

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And sorry, quick lynch cost us the game. Wasn't thinking