Micro 892 Mafia PT

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MENALQUE
MOTHER DUCKING MENALQUE IS MY PARTNER

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When I was finishing up my last game, I got a feeling that I'll roll Mafia
I had that feeling twice before, I rolled Mafia both times
And looks like it still works

Also I'm a Neighbor Enabler
You in a Neighborhood by any chance?

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Also, regarding fakeclaiming in Normals
How what where i don't know

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Uhhhh
Yeah there probably is since i think my role PM hints at there being an active Neighborhood but idk if I'm allowed to quote it here?

Also since when does neighbouriser know the alignment of who he neighbourises?

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Just finished a game with Icon and Klick
Icon and I have a lot of history of mislynching each other
I'll try to play to my town meta and get him to TR me but idk, we never got to Day 2 without turning on each other, let alone LyLo

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Oh yeah I think I played once with Chem but we don't talk about that game

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You're a basic Goon right?

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Also if I'm gonna be fakeclaiming i need to set up some stupid crumbs because Icon knows how much I love stupid crumbs

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Also since when does neighbouriser know the alignment of who he neighbourises?

Disregard this I'm an idiot

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I was scum
A certain player who is very good at the game was not scum
Yeah

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How likely is it that there's a Town Neighbor Enabler in a game with at least one Town Neighbor
Hnnnng this is what I get for only playing opens

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Oh yeah, my last game as Town I was hard defending Grimm
Think I could do the same here with you? Tbqh i hate bussing, would much rather just continuously TR you haha

Pedit: i guess, gonna be spicy yelling at Icon

And idk about Klick, I was wrongly SRing him last game
He seemed good, but again really not sure, that game was bleh

Ppedit:sounds good i think

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I hate that I won't be able to post a much as before, but we'll have to manage
Also I'll need to think of some crumbs. Hmm.

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I've just realized my avi has six fingers. lmao what even.

Also uhhh crumbs. I'm drawing a blank. Maybe I should try to sleep.

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I need to get up in less than three hours and I can't sleep

Also I've remembered that the Traffic Analyst is A Thing that Exists
Dunno if it'd make sense for them to be in the game
But maybe?

Was thinking of crumbing a Neighborhood with you as well just in case but if the Real Neighborhood does exist idk if that'd help us? Maybe in 5p lylo if we're feeling spicy.

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Actually neighborizer on you N1 would explain a guilty check from that if we wanna go all or nothing on Day 3
Hmmmmm
Probably shouldn't crumb the neighborhood ig

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Ye, but since i don't have much experience with fake claims in closed setups i don't wanna be making up things that could horribly backfire

One worry I have is whether Town Neighbor Enabler is gonna fit within whatever other people claim, but obviously I can't make up a perfect fake claim with the current info

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Oh fuck not 5p lylo bussing

My heart can't take that again

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I'd guess either just neighbours or maybe neighbouriser and some other weak PR? But again fk if I know.

Yeah fair enough lol

Shut the fuck up

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I'm actually pretty nervous because these seem like good players? But that probably means they can smell fear and that is bad

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One sec

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I was breadcrumbing Doc from the start.

Spoiler:

Is there really no

free man

/woman/dragon/whatever online now?

Martin

Freeman

- the actor who plays

Dr John Watson

in BBC Sherlock

♪ ♫ All by myself, waiting for a friend to show ♪

♬

Lyrics from a fanmade song "Friend" for the game "Witch's

House

" -

House M.D.

is a pretty popular show

Man

, liv

ing

in Europe... Unidea

l is a

bout the right word. Nothing happening half my daytime. Noone's around?

Natalie

Manning

- character from Chicago MED

Lisa

Cuddy - character from House M.D.

I

wil

l

so

o

n

be going to bed. And if I wake up to like

13

new pages I will be sad

James

Wilson

- character from House M.D.
Remy "

Thirtheen

" Hadley - character from House M.D.

If you believe it's me/Claim, lynch me today. If you think it's Jake, lynch Jake. But we're not No Lynching.

[Datisi]

Uhhhhh
It would, but that's because I fucking hate RVS
So feel free to

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Actually
Isn't it like a popular thing for buddies to vote eachother in RVS?
Tbh maybe if rather avoid that connection?

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Like if you were planning on saying something like "haha datisi are you scum again" I'd rather not
But if referencing past games is your thing and not doing that would be even more sus then do it

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Tbh I was just thinking of like... Spelling you the word "neighbor" in like... The firat letter of the last word of my posts
Andnrhen spelling enabler later on somewhere

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It's not that I have a problem with you doing it

It's that I know my answer to that is gonna sound fake-ass forced
And I'd rather not people get it into their heads that I might be Not Town

What's the icon one?

Pedit: lmao maybe i can read you better than I thought

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Ehhhhhh
I mean I like it
But idk about the pocket thing you mentioned

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What would I answer...

I got no idea honestly. I don't recall him ever calling out anyone for pocketing him, but then agaim people don't TR him much

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... Okay. Just please keep checking the PT as well when we interact.

And sure, go for it. I can survive a couple of RVS votes. Did it last game, can do it this one.

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Maybe I can try to drag Icon into it as well. Form a "townblocc".

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Fair enough. By the looks of it, I might be there early... With Icon... Oh god this is the real-time interaction with Town members anxiety all over again

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Oh no, I didn't mean to literally form one, tho Icon does have a thing for calling out Townbloccs for some reason

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Haha, thank you. Hoping to repeat the act. (inb4 im lynched d1)

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Huh
Ftr I'd like to believe I actually would've been TRimg you our last game
So hopefully it turns out well

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I need to get up in an hour and a half ayy

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Also yeah that would be fun
Not sure if smart, but fun indeed

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*make one post*

"oh god they

know

"

Also, you think we'll have the Mafia PT longer than the main game this time?

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Why is every one of my scumgames already full of bullshit on page 1

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Aaaand I already fucked the crumbs up due to being completely sleep deprived and decaffeinated. Ok take two.

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Post 14 Icon softing shit???? I don't wanna have to kill icon

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Aaaaaaaaaa I keep forgetting to crumb

I can't play mafia mastermind on 1.5 hours of sleep and no coffee

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And we're back to "is 49 genuine or bait".

Also goddamn crumbs i forgot AGAIN

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Oh god i haven't caught up with the thread yet ehat is happening

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Didn't crumb yet i keep forgetting the letter thing

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Agh
I guess it's good that you brought it up but ehhhhh i don't like the feeling of the spotlight kinda on me like this

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I'll actually reply to everything once I get home today I think
If you got any notes for me/what you want me to mention do tell me

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I think the only thing that’s gonna keep me energised this game will be you

Awwww I missed this the first time

I'm sorry if you don't like playing scum, but I'll try my best to keep thr spirits up at least

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Eh, I feel like town!Datisi would maybe at least comment on you being paranoid about me?

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Dunno tho

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Tbh if Icon is neighbouriser I think I have a good chance of becoming a neighbor with him
So idk, dong might be a good kill, but too early to tell

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I don't trust myself tho

Also are you confusing friendly neighbor with loyal neighbouriser?

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Tbh dong is probably the person giving me most anxiety right now
also idk why Chem is mind melding with you wrt your stance on me

Pedit: sends a message to someone at night saying "I am a Town member"

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I kinda wanna engage dong wrt klick and bella maybe, since they said they find Klick more sus
But after they post i guess

Yeah we do want that dead but i kinda doubt it's in the game?

Also gotta run see ya

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Ok classes ended sooner than expected will try to get to this within the hour

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Maybe a tad bit later
Should probably have a coffee first

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ok working on posts
and actually getting the crumb in properly lmao

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I think chem mindmelding me is quite natural, I think my thoughts on you/klick/ico are a good imitation of where my hea would be at as town so I can see chem having similar thoughts and thinking he’s mindmelding me based on that

But is also let’s me push being worried about him buddying me later if I want to, which is useful

also when I brought this up it was because afaik the only time Chem had seen scum!me was in that hot pile of mess of a game, so not sure why he's agreeing with having to be careful about reading me? Unless he's familiar with 1949, which ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Also crumbing is hard spelling is hard

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Hmmmmmmm
if Locke doesn't bring out more posts, I might make a comment saying "oh look my rvs vote isn't random anymore"

we'll see

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I feel like if we manage to turn Dong against both Bella and Klick this could be interesting
especially if we NK them after one of those gets lynched

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okay I managed to get a half of my crumb out
it ain't that visible right haha right?

also crappy schedule again tomorrow bleh

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100% agreed
I was actually thinking of pocketing icon and bringing him to lylo, but if he actually is crumbing then he may need to go

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Like idk, dong still kind scares me, but we'll see

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Uhhh, I'm dead tired and got classes from 10 to 19 tomorrow so I was thinking about calling the night early
Also no PS4 here

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Bah they're talking about my scumplay
What have you done

Jk I get it i know it's good but ugh i hate reading people saying "datisi" and "scum" in the same sentence

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Hm... The more I think about it, the more I feel like your "oh my god datisi is good at being scum be careful people" comment will help us. First it's easier to TR you for it, and it can be an explaination of why neither of us is dead. (If we don't get lynched, that is haha h ah) Don't overly push it tho

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Aaaaand I gotta start getting ready. I'll try to keep up with the thread while on breaks (doesn't seem to be overly active rn, which is kinda good), but no promises. I'll at least check in here as often as I can.

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Thank fuck I managed to get the full crumb out
Finally

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I feel like I should say something on the locke/bella thing soon
Got any idea who we want on the D1 noose?

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Also i took a wrong turn while reading the game hopefully I'm not late to class ha h a hah a hh

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Dong seems to be both against Klick and Bella

I'm trying to find "original" reasons to SR Bella, but that "scum!Datisi jumps onto Bella" post is still hurting me. Tbh I'd kinda rather get Klick today (if dong actually starts casing him, tho I'd like to see them fight), nk dong then get Bella tomorrow possibly, but idk about lylo

Also heavenslot is making me kinda paranoid by not playing, always wary of a possible scumhunting god replacing in, hope not lmao

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Hnnnnnng these classes are stressing me out

You still here friend?

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If chem keeps lurking like this he might be a good target as well

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On the other hand... Locke might also be a good one for today. Maybe. Possibly. I'll see what I can do.

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Holy shit I feel like my focus in the game is at an all time low
Like I only now realized what Dong meant with their original post
Like I misunderstood it completely
i didn't even get the colors thing
Like

uhhhh I'm braindead

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Baaaaaaaahhhhh why is he replying to me
why do I have to think

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why oh why is my town meta "post shit conctantly"
i need to be studying
where are you Mena

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Goddamn

Ye I can relate being out of it
Hope you're feeling better soon

Pedit: I'm currently kinda sorta "tring dong but not explicitly" but if you (or someone) present a strong enough case i might

Tho idk about what after they flip

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Don't get me wrong, if we manage to lynch them day 1 then we can kill icon if we still feel like he's a pr, which would be good i think

Tho getting dong lynched might be a bit of a struggle, since some do seem to tr them, and i doubt they'd be the compromise lynch in the current gamestate

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I think you misunderstood dongs post the same way i did?

Like i don't think they meant that pg 8 readslist is inherently bad, just that one with no explanation is
But maybe it's for the better i didn't pry into it too much, if this gains traction you could lead a lynch while i could be screaming about a tvt misunderstanding

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Alright, sounds good

Hope others comment on it by morning, since I think i might have to call you out on misunderstanding? Or maybe not. Hmm.

Any possible neighbors catching your eye?

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Also, the neighbor enabler role is giving me pause, since i kinda find it hard to believe that "claim your role but town" would be a viable strategy

But i can't think of any way that it would make me unfit the Town, since enablers are kinda negative utility

I mean i can always claim VT when the time comes (unless someone sees the crumb which i doubt), but eh

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Hm... If you wanna claim something along the lines of Doc, maybe give it a fancy modifier?

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Every time I mention you in the main thread, there's always a thought in the back of my mind that "oh god someone's gonna figure out this is a S/S interaction because ABCXYZ". So stupid.

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Spoiler: posting the crumb here so I can easily grab it if needed

For some reason I thought "good shenanigans" also meant "Town shenanigans", i need sleep

Though if you're more sus of Bella (which I assume why the vote?) why "dayvig" Klick?

Pedit: Bella, I asked that question, not Icon?

Also see y'all later, gotta run

n

ow

Though if you're more sus of Bella (which I assume by* the vote?) why "dayvig" Klick?

(ebwop) Icon, I think you missed this question (and some of Mena's as well)

e

arlier?

Dongempire, what changed between 77 and 82? Seems like a weird progression on

I

con.

Also in regard to 83 and 84, not sure how you come out with TRing Bella over Klick? I don't find the posts you listed in 84 as particularly scummy. Also, while both their posting at the start of the day was null-ish, I don't think Bella's further posting has been especially

g

reat.

Dongempire, what changed between 77 and 82? Seems like a weird progression on Icon.

Based on context I’d guess it was based off 80

80 is your post though? You mean that 80 made them read 72? Though that post doesn't seem to be overly positive of Icon, so I'm not sure what you mean

h

ere.

Oh

Not sure how you can draw a TR from

that

post (if 82 was even a serious read to begin with, which maybe it wasn't and I'm dumb?),

b

ut... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Dongempire, what changed between 77 and 82? Seems like a weird progression on Icon.

Nothing?
I hadnt read up on the game yet when i made the post, and just saw that icon was in the game and menals comment. Then i read up properly and saw he was towny.

Gotcha. Thought your read had changed because of the posts made between 77 and 82.

I dont tr bella, nor do i sr klick. I'm going through the motions, i think saying that i have strong reads on either would be stretching it right now.

I didn't say you do. What I meant by saying you "TR Bella over Klick" (and I see if my wording could've been a bit confusing there) is that you think Bella is more Town than Klick.

Not gonna fly with just saying the last posts are bad, provide examples if you want this cart rolling.

Examples of Bella's posts I'm not a fan of are 52 and 65. Sure, she's asking questions, but I'm not sure I see her using the answers for anything? To me it just reads like passive questioning of

o

thers.

@datisi, this is what I do day one - I ask a lot of questions. I'm trying to get a read on people, not necessarily direct the thread.

I mean, asking a lot of questions is fair game, hell I often do it a lot myself, but I kinda don't see the answers being used? Like, did Mena's answer impact your Mena or Icon

r

ead?

Hmm, I don't know how I feel about this.

Regarding Locke's mistake, I'm not sure that it's necessarily scum indicative, but I've made the mistake of letting things that shouldn't slide slide, so we'll see.

Overall liking datisi, always like an active sorter, klick is there, not really sure how to feel about him at the moment, liked menal's entrance, chemist is mostly nothing at the moment, pot calling kettle black I know, dong's funny so my read maybe bias but leaning town currently. And the rest of your posts don't make me feel more inclined to consider you town so I'mma keep my vote on you

Though I can't help but wonder if Bella does raise a good point here. You said you liked Mena's entrance, and he did spend a few posts talking about me (poor man must still be traumatised), so I kinda find it odd as well you didn't bring it up? Maybe I'm just overly paranoid of potential buddying.

At the time of making the post 95, had you read

e

verything?

Regarding Bella... It's nice to see them engaing in discussion with someone, but posts like these still seem a bit off to me.

Ive asked two (now three) questions - one of which to iconium, who hasn't replied to me - but from others' response, I'm guessing he's just like this. I can't read this slot well yet.

It's pretty obvious iiked the thought that went into menalques answer and they cleared up an issue I had with two different reactions that didn't make sense to me (to klick and ice).

It's should also be easy to reckon I'm not impressed with Locke's posting.

Feels kinda uncommitted? (To be fair, it is page 5/6, so it may be too early, but still.) You liked the thought that went into Mena's answer, but I still got no idea how you're reading him (or the majority of the game)

n

ow.

I know it was fake, but you said in 51 that you dayvigged who you found scummy, so I'm a bit confused is

a

ll.

I know it was fake, but you said in 51 that you dayvigged who you found scummy, so I'm a bit confused is all.

And didn't I say I thought him 'panick claiming' lovers for the least amount of pressure was scummy?

You did, I was kinda asking about your vote, since your dayvig was on Klick but vote on

B

ella.

Jezus how difficult can you make something?

Klick claims lovers with Bella. I 'shoot' Klick. They both die. Problem solved.

but it was a fake dayvig

I'm being called out for interacting with the 2 players whoms interaction I found, at the very least, weird.

What is this

Bleh, just potentially worried if your actions are off, since you said you don't think they're s/s

I'm probably overthinking it

Then vote me, honestly surprised you haven't yet

Did you misread my post? Maybe I posted it weirdly?

I was agreeing with you that Bella was overdefensive there, and she's my top scumread right now but it's early for something concrete

While I'm not a fan of that defensiveness from Locke, this did make me

l

augh

but it was a fake dayvig

but it was a fake lovers claim

they why did you shoot him for being lovers

e

h

Bleh, just potentially worried if your actions are off, since you said you don't think they're s/sI'm probably overthinking it

If I were actually a vig, and Klick actually claimed lovers like this game, I would 100/100 shoot in them and kill them both.

...excellent plan,

r

ight.

Yes, this was hell to get out. Also I stole this method of crumbing from someone in an older game hehe

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Okay, that went... Okay.

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Oh yeah, had a dream last night that gobble replaced heaven and figured both of us out. Might have to keep an eye on that slot.

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Hmm. I guess that, as long as we aren't the compromise lynch of the day, stalling the day out could be a potential strategy. Maybe.

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Potential thoughts: Bella may be good lylo material for us (mainly you). Tho I'm having trouble figuring out whether her timid actions are due to her personality or being a possible PR.

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Well, chemist seems to be sus at least
Getting dong today could potentially set off a chain lynch there but that'd be a bit difficult

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Ye that would be good. If we manage that it would be nice.

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Oh, i hadn't thought of that. She does tr both of us, I'd like it to stay that way. And I do agree on dong being a better lynch today, but not sure how I could jump on there at this point without being sus.

Pedit: sure.

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Bleh, kept agreeing with dong earlier. Maybe if they become the compromise lynch I could do something.

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Yeah fair. But still gotta make it look natural. Hnnng I'm not in the right state of mind for mastermind scumplays rn.

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Uhhh
I kinda have a feeling that you've got a better hang on the game rn than I do
So like
Kinda feeling lost idk what do

Ugh i know low activity can be good for us but it's also kinda hard to play in for me?
I need sleep

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Uhhhhhhh
Why
I forget how crappily playing scum can feel

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You're nicer than me i think
If I'm in the right mindset i maybe would be willing to do that
But rn i just wanna lay down and die lmao

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Mostly having an existential crisis since it started, yeah.

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I've been staring at the damn gamethread for the past 40 minutes and just
got absolutely nothing
I think I'll just go to bed and get to this in the morning, we're in a fine position rn I think

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Tinfoil theory: Heaven is a Neighbour with Chemist. Posts 185 and 186 were made very close to eachother, and idk, fininding the Chem TL kinda weird there. Another thought was that the two are Masons (with me being an Enabler for a role that doesn't exist), but hoping that's not the case. Still can't read if people are a PR or not. Might have to look at Icon's Town games to see if he does """crumbs""" like that. Also where is Icon. I'm getting worried.

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Fuck in class got a 15 min break rn I'll see

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So, here’s what I’m thinking. Chem would be easy to do probably, but that makes him low hanging fruit, which is not what we wanna look like we’re aiming for. So I’m thinking of white knighting chem and pushing dong as bad for his response unless it’s really, really good. If not, then heaven is a good compromise slot, although icon would be even better if we could do him.

But we should pick soon here, and start guiding the lynch because we only have 3-4 days, didn’t notice how short deadlines were on this game aha

This is all on the topic of D1 lynch right?

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Fuck I didn't look at Icon's pr games uhhhh

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If we could get icon to claim today at least that'd be swell but with at least two people tring him rn (me and dong) idk
I know sometimes pressure makes him crumb harder but bleh idk if it's a smart move for you

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I don’t think we wanna /over/ speculate about PRs, but I’ll leave that mostly to you. Icon is my best guess atm, it fits with early activity, a possible soft, and him being much more passive/staying out of the spotlight here

Also I'm shit at pr hunting (as evident by 1949), rn icon is my best guess as well but i wouldn't bet my life on it you feel

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People do seem to agree with you (or at least be suspect of dong), obv i can't say before i see their response but

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Idk would it be obvious that it's scum buddying chem? I mean he's already got some people on his ass i think we can afford you at least soft defending him

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You pressuring dong or icon (or both) would mean that we'd have to orchestra a discussion between the two of us since I'm currently "tring" both slots

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I think you pressuring dong (unless their defence is really really good) and icon (fishing out a claim or a soft if not outright lynch) would be fine?

Also should I keep pressuring Locke? Idk, I feel like he could maybe possibly be lynched at some point but he is getting better bleh

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Oh f me klick is actually tring them it seems
Which probably means I'd have to push the dong lynch as well if we want it to go through and idk if I'll be able to
Tho maybe possibly an idea that you start pushing dong/icon, i go locke, if any of those lynches gain traction cool
If not we get to a compromise of chem/heaven (probably chem), you get town points for wk him, I'm on wagon but it's within my towngame to jump on compromise lynches so

[Datisi]

Crap class starting, will try to check im here periodically if ya need anything

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I should probably stop setup speccing, more harm than good probably since I'm not that good at it hnnng

but i really like the idea of a Traffic Analyst as a Town investigative

Also i was really liking the idea of you pressuring icon, maybe getting him to claim/soft, and then us murdering him for it

Tho i just remembered that he's gotta take weekend vla which means he won't be back until monday morning which is like 2 days before deadline? So that train has kinda departed i think, even tho he was absent for the past two days as well

I mean maybe if you pressure him anyway he softs again when he comes back but i doubt it?

[Datisi]

Oh, how rude of me. Thank you.

[Datisi]

What does Town!Datisi do when people are shading Icon and her for TRing him, what does scum!Datisi do to appear Town... Hm.

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Can't explain it when I'm Town, m8

You mean rn or?

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I’m trying to sow some doubt in klick’s mind about dong. Remember, town has good reasons to be paranoid about almost everyone else, we need to play off that

I think there’s a really good post by mastina somewhere on probability va possibility, basically arguing that while town live in the world of the probable (thinking: “yes, scum could have done almost anything, but what, given this particular context, are they actually

most likely

to do?”) while scum live in the world of possibility, trying to get town to think about unlikely situations that play on town paranoia (making town think: “hmmm, but what if mena is right and that cop VT clear is actually because the person is a godfather!”)

So I think this is a good mindset to approach people TRing people we wanna lynch. It’s not necessarily about forcing it through, it’s about encouraging it by pointing out the scummy things the person has done (we all do scummy things) and encouraging paranoia about the signs that the person is actually town

Oh, I've read that when you linked it in 1949. And started shitting bricks when you said "ackchually rereading that made me remember why I was SRing Korina so much".

Doesnt have to be rn, but do you think town!yo would just let me shade your icon read without you saying anything to me about it?

No fucking idea tbh. A lot of my play depends on my mood at the moment. It doesn't matter anyway. What matters is what others think Town!Datisi would do.

If I defend him I fear being called a WK, if I don't I fear being called scum for letting him get pressured. So I should probably say something. Hmm.

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I'm thinking I could potentially call out

On the flip side, icon has a rep for being mislynch bait and that makes me hesitant, plus in my only encounter with scum!icon he was trying a lot harder to actively create a fucked up gamestate whereas here he’s just,.. not here?

as fence-sitty or some shit?

Thoguh that does take pressure off of him, and turns it to you.

[Datisi]

would you be worried about being called a WK or about being pressured?

I'm not worried about anything as town, because (in the vast majority of cases) people generally just Townread me anyway

I think I'm gonna draft a post here for you to take a look at first, okay?

[Datisi]

Spoiler: uhhhh

Icon, he was around early game and then kinda disappeared? So I feel like that could have been busy work trying to get himself credit for the activity even while I don’t think a lot of his play was really driving the game forward. On the flip side, icon has a rep for being mislynch bait and that makes me hesitant, plus in my only encounter with scum!icon he was trying a lot harder to actively create a fucked up gamestate whereas here he’s just,.. not here?

Now I think about it. I don’t love ... datisi having him in “do not lynch” based on the content he’s provided so far

This is such crappy reasoning? Real life happens, hell, you started off strong then dissapeared for a while. And he does have some fluff posts, but I feel like him trying to sort is evident? Then in the same breath you call him possible mislynch bait and say this game doesn't fit the scum meta you've seen from him.

alright, that's cool. How much time we got to work with here?

[Datisi]

We are good team
sometimes dum sometimes hero
but we are team
we are who we are

uhhhhhhhh

[Datisi]

Spoiler: uhhhh v2.0

Icon, he was around early game and then kinda disappeared? So I feel like that could have been busy work trying to get himself credit for the activity even while I don’t think a lot of his play was really driving the game forward. On the flip side, icon has a rep for being mislynch bait and that makes me hesitant, plus in my only encounter with scum!icon he was trying a lot harder to actively create a fucked up gamestate whereas here he’s just,.. not here?

Now I think about it. I don’t love ... datisi having him in “do not lynch” based on the content he’s provided so far

Inactivity periods are such crappy reasoning, tho? Real life happens, hell, you started off strong then dissapeared for a little bit. Sure, he does have some fluff posts, but I feel like him trying to sort is evident?

Then in the same breath you call him possible mislynch bait and say this game doesn't fit the scum meta you've seen from him.

Hmm, I’m not sure I agree with that. I think trying to craft your actions to what others think town!yiu would do is difficult because (1) it makes it harder to explain how you’ve been thinking throughout the game when questioned. If it’s coming from what you think you’d do, fuck the others, then it’s easy to show how you’ve changed and developed in response to the circumstances and I think that gets TR far more often than not. And (2) it’s really hard to predict why the others think town!you would do.

Also re:this: I kinda feel like it's easier for me to decide what others are more likely to TR from me then make up reasoning for it, than to play "as town myself" and think of reasons first, then decide on actions. Semi-agree with 2).

[Datisi]

I'm personally scumreading him a lot right now

welcome to the panic room

♪ ♫

where all your darkest fears are gonna come for you

♬♩

[Datisi]

I'm gonna study (lurk) for a lil bit, if you greenlight the uhhhh v2.0 I'll post it, since now Dong is throwing the ball back at you and i don't think I'll be able to pull anything off if you die today

[Datisi]

shit I was thinking of hard defending you this game
shit why did I get a red role PM
why am I alive

also I was thinging about adding something like "what's the problem with me TRing Icon" to the post but I'm worried if it's bad

[Datisi]

bbbbbbbbb I should've just posted the thing earlier

what

th fucc

[Datisi]

bleh
you said you can explain it
i'm probably panicking unecessarily anyway
i'm not gonna let you eat rope day 1

[Datisi]

Oh joy, Chemist is gonna be making reads. Just when I thought I can relax and go sleep.

[Datisi]

oh god i think he's going by alphabet
oh god i'm next
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[Datisi]

I feel like chem's question's either revealing that he's not paying that much attention or is a trap. Hopefully I dogded it?

[Datisi]

Spoiler: uhhhh

Icon, he was around early game and then kinda disappeared? So I feel like that could have been busy work trying to get himself credit for the activity even while I don’t think a lot of his play was really driving the game forward. On the flip side, icon has a rep for being mislynch bait and that makes me hesitant, plus in my only encounter with scum!icon he was trying a lot harder to actively create a fucked up gamestate whereas here he’s just,.. not here?

Now I think about it. I don’t love ... datisi having him in “do not lynch” based on the content he’s provided so far

This is such crappy reasoning? Real life happens, hell, you started off strong then dissapeared for a while. And he does have some fluff posts, but I feel like him trying to sort is evident? Then in the same breath you call him possible mislynch bait and say this game doesn't fit the scum meta you've seen from him.

alright, that's cool. How much time we got to work with here?

This can work but if you TR me I’d maybe phrase it slightly more softly? But it can work like this, just bear in mind it’ll mean I have to come back at you with slightly more aggro

Fucc i panicked and posted anyway

Uhhh i don't ming the aggro just keep in mind if we want a dong lynch we prob need me on wagon

And if we don't want to lose upon a green dong flip us TRing eachother has to be convincing

So like, idk what your current "official read" on me is, but like try to make the reply to me with the end goal of "both of us realizing we're in a TvT fight", you feel?

[Datisi]

This can work but if you TR me I’d maybe phrase it slightly more softly? But it can work like this, just bear in mind it’ll mean I have to come back at you with slightly more aggro

bleh, going against what i said earlier, I posted the "less soft" version because I often call out BS when i see it even from my TR's

Icon isn’t here so idk about him

tbh right now Icon's unpredictable since I got no idea what his reads regarding the 3 of us are

tho i do know that if he sees us voting together after arguing he's 100% calling that shit out
which means we need to come round to a TR on eachother again
and a convincing one

[Datisi]

Hmm. After our last game together, I definitely understand Klick pushing for lynches in the low-activity slots. Which makes me think he'd be a swell N2 kill, but that then leaves the problem of having to rid of both Icon and Dong... Bahhh, we'll see the game after your replies.

[Datisi]

Ugh, i feel like bella is sring me for wrong reasons? Like sure, i brought up her comment, but i thought it was obvious to illustrate that my previous sr of her wasn't well based? Uhhh

Uhhh

[Datisi]

Yeah, maybe the smartest move here is to reply to Bella's suspicion, draft the post here and then actually have you read it this time

I've got a vague idea what to reply, but I need to check my pervious posts regarding Bella again. When I get home and take a breather.

[Datisi]

Spoiler: i know how to play i swear

Also, ico hasnt come back so im waiting on him too.

Icon's on his weekend VLA I think, he'll probably be back Monday morning

Yes, but if Heaven is town and continues to not post, how are we going to achieve our wincon? We're going to struggle to read their slot later on regardless, because they aren't doing anything. If anything we'll struggle more, because we'll know nothing about a slot that may or may not be vital to cooperate with if we want to win.

I'm against the Heaven lynch today as well. Imo there's a clear different between a lurker who pops in every once in a while to post content (which we can at least attempt to read) and a hard non-poster (which is likely to get replaced anyway)

I'm anxious about datisi - they keep throwing shade on me even when agreeing with me: votes locke with me for similar reasons but still calls out her scum rwad on me and doesn't want to be sharing my wagon? Keeps making a thing out of a fairly innocuous comment about my day one meta, even on this page...but hasn't voted me.

At the time, neither of my SR's on you or Locke were particualrly strong. I both felt that you were asking empty questions to appear busy and that Locke either wasn't reading or was purposefully ignoring Mena's earlier posts, and that he was hypocritically shading others - and I wasn't seeing the interaction between the two of you as S/S. I wasn't ready to commit one way or the other, since my early reads are often super off.

I made a thing out of your comments because they pinged me at the time I was thinking you were scum. As I said in 253, after I stopped to reconsider my read on you, I realized I was making a fuss out of posts that are most likely NAI due to my own tunnelling/paranoia. The point of that post wasn't to shade you btw, I'm sorry if it came out that way. I was simply showing an example of a post that I was using to SR you, but have since changed my opinion.

Hmm a mistake of that magnitude probably malice. Smaller mistakes I may pressure a little if it feels a bit off but would probably assume genuine and NAI.

I think there's an interesting discussion to be had here, though I'm not sure if it'd help us sort anyone.

It is kinda weird that Icon went from pretty active to his most recent activity being one defensive post and then disappearing again.

I still think arguments like these are crappy, a SR on someone due to activity and not the content.

Not as sold on your point about Datisi, but there is something there especially the part about the lack of voting you at any point during their scumread of you. If her read of you had came after her read on me it would make more sense but it was the opposite, so why didn't she vote you at the time she seemed to scumread you? Datisi def interested in your response to this. Overall not enough that I would consider dropping my townread at the moment but possibly worrisome deponding on the response

Again, my early SR of Bella wasn't strong, and I was interested in hearing their response first before voting. Then your and Bella's page 5/6 discussion came around, from which I didn't like either of you, so I didn't bother to move my vote. From then on I was kinda parallel SRing both of you, and since there wasn't any danger of any quickhammers or whatnot, I was indifferent on which of the two of you my vote was on. And, well, at this point I've come 'round on Bella.

Tbh still not a fan of you TRing Icon for his engagement with the game then commenting about his activity, but I get the feeling you're a player who will get easier to read as time goes on?
UNVOTE: Locke

Also, I've seen Chemist play passively before, but saying that he's in my Townpile right now would be a lie.

[Datisi]

i can't decide if my explanations are overly wordy or not, but I've been staring at the post for the past hour something... sigh

[Datisi]

also with Locke TRing Dong, we can kiss that lynch goodbye I feel. I'd still love to remove them from the game and play the MenavDong thing as TvT, tho I get the feeling they're a VT. Still no idea who could be the Neighbors.

Though Bella is getting paranoid of Klick. Maybe keeping Klick, Bella and Locke (who's sus of him atm) all in the game might be a good potential setup for LyLo? (Assuming we fall back to the Chemist lynch today, with you hopefully getting towncred there)

That would make the Heaven!slot our D2 lynch, and Icon out N2 kill, but... I know there's a 1001 way this plan can and will go to shit.

[Datisi]

Tho given the current gamestate, Klick/Bella/Locke/Mena/Datisi lylo would probably mean either fishing out a vote for the quickhammer or... bussing. Hnnnng not a fan either. Bleh this is stressful

[Datisi]

Hng, just seeing people from this game being online is making me nervous and wanting to post the thing anyway. But it's fine, everything is fine.

[Datisi]

Uhhh, the last part about Locke and his "shading" should prob either be edited or deleted, idk why but i automatically am trying to shade everyone i should probably stop that

[Datisi]

why are there so many people from our game online aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[Datisi]

Uhhhhh

I might have had a drink
Or two

Hi sugar how you doin

[Datisi]

... Remind me to redact that k thx

[Datisi]

Oh no, i might have drunk too much

Mena where, you at

[Datisi]

Menaaaaaaaaaaaaaa </3

[Datisi]

[Datisi]

...

[Datisi]

Oh jesus christ, drunk posting in the pt, great.

[Datisi]

Uhhhhhh
If i don't hear from you by tomorrow morning (hopefully not much hangover) I'll probably post it when i edit it a lil bit

Tho I'd really like your opinion here

Fuck why'd i have to get hammered today

[Datisi]

Ugh i need to sleep. I can't think rn. Bleh. It was a fun day tho.

[Datisi]

uhhhhhh

joy, I don't even remember sending the 240-246

I thought I had lost my tram pass, but it was at home whe whole time oops

Uhhh, gonna run to the store probably and wake up properly (fuccing hangover), then see what I need to reply to and probably edit the drafted post

[Datisi]

If Dong doesn't give any good reasoning for their Chemist read, maybe something can be done there. 277 almost reads like they know Chem's Town, but would still be up for lynching him because "policy". I'll try to see if I can poke there.

[Datisi]

With both Klick and Bella sus of Icon, pushing him could at least get him to potentially soft again. Ugh, I should be looking for the Neighbors.

[Datisi]

uuugh, really hoping the fact Klick incorrectly SR me in our recent game makes him more likely to TR me now. Okay, deep breath, all is well.

[Datisi]

Ayyyyyy mena's here

[Datisi]

Ah yes, the genuine sorting. :thonk:

[Datisi]

His most recent posts are a pile of dogshit, at least from what I see. I was thinking about starting to push him, (he's not even answered my question regarding his chem thing) but then I'd have to reply to your question and rn I don't even know

[Datisi]

Tbh if it does turn into a 1v1 I think I'll just take your side and cross my fingers

[Datisi]

Also idk how hard should I push on the chem thing since if/when dong flips green oops datisi was setting up a chain lynch?

[Datisi]

WHAT THE FUCK

WHAT THE EVER LOVING FUCK
WHY IS HE

HERE

WHY IS

HE

HERE
WHO LET HIM IN
NO

NO

WHY IS HE HERE

[Datisi]

please tell me i'm not seeing right
this isn't right
this is just a cruel joke
nothing else
just

just a prank right???????

[Datisi]

he fucking inned with that account
oh no
oh no
uhhhhhhhhhhh

THE GANG FROM 1949 IS BACK YALL

fuck me why is scum!Datisi the common denominator

[Datisi]

i had high hopes for this game

what do i have now

regret

also i know you'll be reading this post game hi who let you in
no hard feelings just
uhhh
why

[Datisi]

i think i'm going to bed.

[Datisi]

{myself}

{mena}

{datisi, bella}

{dong, chem, klick}

- Null

{ico}

{locke}

{}

mena seems townie from the last game we played.
datisi seems townie, but i cant shake the feeling that datisi is playing scum like last game

okay okay this is fine. okay.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

.

i'm fine.

maybe. there's hope.
maybe.

[Datisi]

something
something about the 3 null reads is off
granted i've never played with town!him but
i don't know
possible neighbour buddy there???

[Datisi]

or maye it is the game athmosphere. ugh. I think i have a fever.

[Datisi]

y'know what
maybe it was a blessing in disguise when you were like "omg guys don't tr datisi she good scum"
oh man
uhh
maybe

tho i was really hoping 1949 wouldn't be referrenced constantly this game
guess not

[Datisi]

The one person probably most familiar with my tricks. Hopefully I'll be able to fool 'em.

Tho you're for sure not getting lynched today.

[Datisi]

Also, I assume we’re both on the same page that he absolutely always needs to die tonight

We are on the exact same page.

This fucks up things about Icon, but what can you do.

[Datisi]

Tbh not yet sure about the Klick kill, but all in due time

[Datisi]

You’re gonna need to engage him a lot because he knows that scum!you will be just as paranoid about him as you are and that you’ll probably be avoidant if that’s the case

Ye, I was thinking about
a) Korina loves 1v1's
b) he obv isn't sold on my bullshit
c) he knows I can easily crumble under pressure

[Datisi]

I haven’t figured out a plan yet but I probs will talk to him about being nul!town on dong

Oh yeah, I had a vague idea of "something something says he's SRing Locke but not voting says thinks Chem is Town but ok on lynching" but uhhh

[Datisi]

Korina? If memory serves, Locke is the lowest on his readslist, and Chem is described to be "townish" because [redacted].

[Datisi]

Not only is he 26 pages familiar with her, he was coaching her the whole time

[Datisi]

But also the fact that he’s p obv town means he’s likely to be harder to lynch

Ye i agree but bella seems to be at least sus of him. I know that's subject to change by D3 tho

I'm juat worried because if Icon is an investigative I think there might be a good chance he checks me. But i think I'd rather 1v1 him D2

Aight, sleep well

[Datisi]

hnnnnnng I'm not sure
I wanted to reply to klick earlier to his questions about Icon but the site kept eating my posts and now this shit

Should i put chem to L-1 sometime soon-ish?

[Datisi]

maybe something like "well if nobody wants to do dong I'm fine with ico lynch"?

but yeah not sure what Klick's actual intentions are here. I'd say he's being honest but probably don't listen to me

[Datisi]

also dong keeps ignoring my questions regarding chem and klick and i dunno how to feel about it? Am i missing something there?

[Datisi]

okay uhhhh
1) put chem at L-1 y/n?
2) ask korina why he ain't voting anyone y/n?

hmmmmmmmm

[Datisi]

Oh look at that
Uhhhhh
What is the game plan right now? I gotta be defending Icon here. Shit.

[Datisi]

Get on him for being avoidant

This means
Vote or just ask?
Too early to vote i think?

[Datisi]

That was for you not for me
I'm officially TRing Icon

[Datisi]

If only this goddamn site wasn't this slow
I doubt korina will but chem and maaaaaybe klick?

[Datisi]

What the everloving fuck are dong's most recent posts
Like what is that

[Datisi]

Here's Korina

Also wtf is this game

[Datisi]

Is it just me, or is Korina throwing shade at you by saying "oh Locke is doing what scum!me was doing in 1949 and Mena called it out"?

[Datisi]

lmao icon is at L-2 what the fuck

I'm annoyed that I need to defend him here but I think the lynch kinda has good chances to go through anyway?

[Datisi]

oh my god locke wants to lynch him as well
what
what is this

[Datisi]

FUCKING L-1 WHAT THE SHIT WE WON'T EVEN BE ON WAGON AT THIS POINT

[Datisi]

masons???????

[Datisi]

okay so either
1) they're neighbors and dong is bsing us
2) my role is a red herring???

[Datisi]

@mod, can i quote my role pm here?

idk, if there was any kind of neighborizer/masoniser then they wouldn't be claiming masons Day 1 together
unless dong really is just trolling, but i kinda doubt it

aaaaaaaa what the fuck

[Datisi]

jesus
if korina hadn't replaced in
we lynch chem today
kill dong who's unclaimed
fucking PROFIT
BUT NO
NO NO NO

fuck man i don't know
i feel like my play hasn't been strong enough this game to make it far enough

[Datisi]

and I kinda think I might even die today

i think i'm rather gonna hard defend you to fuck with associates because no way in living hell i win if you flip today

He shouldn’t have outed himself as the other mason tbh, but maybe he panicked about the L-1?

i guess???

uhhhh also idea maybe we kill korina anyway
I claim tomorrow and go "hurr durr why aren't the masons dead"

it's probably shit but i don't wanna play against korina why are the two of them masons

[Datisi]

oh okay

anyway i really feel like my role pm implies that a neighbourhood does exist?? But maybe not? like I can think of a way for the wording there to be misleading actually
idk doesn't matter right now until icon confirms dong's bs

oh my god i had high hopes for this game

[Datisi]

i think i'm rather gonna hard defend you, to fuck with associates, because no way in living hell i win if you flip today

ebwop, but yeah if anyone asks I'm TRing Mena thank you and goodnight

[Datisi]

shit if icon's TR on me was a reaction test or something I'm gonna lose it
hopefully not tho
uhhhh
if we assume korina's reads are genuine maybe i'd be fine keeping him around? tho I doubt it
aaaaaaaa my head hurts
maybe if korina pushes through a locke lynch today? i don't know

pedit: i don't think I'm letting you die today.

[Datisi]

I think dong MUST have some kind of PT with icon at least

agreed with this
and I think I believe that it's a mason one, because
1) icon was kinda tring Dong the whole time? like had he ever even questioned that slot?
2) 2 masons + 5 VT vs 2 Goons is a scumsided setup i think? so what better was to balance it than to throw scum some false info

the other scenario is they're actual neighbors and there's another PR but I kinda doubt it because 1)

[Datisi]

i think I'm gonna go to bed, like I was already feeling tired today and i did not need this
tomorrow's gonna be a panic lynch day and holy shit i hate that as either alignment