Micro 1072: Mafia PT

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GHELP im so excited about this i haven't played as mafia in ages

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i love being scum it's so fun hsjdhsj i'm probably going to Suck A Lot because i haven't played much mafia (i'm getting back into it after a long hiatus) but i will try my hardest!!! gonna read up on the setup again

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so i went and was very excited in my neighbor PT and i think i like my neighbor a ton
it's a shame i'll probably have to manipulate them for literally this entire game
oh well let me check the playerlist to see who we're dealing with
also going to sleep soon so if you reply while im gonna nd i don't get back, i'm in my cozy bed

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ooo aureal is in this game too i know her too

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wait mods, does the roleblock just block their kill?

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huh at some point it would be plausible to convince our neighbor to kill our maf partner (depends who) and use it to get towncred
but hopefully if the both of us are good enough we won't have to bus in votes or through kills

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anyways going to bed, bye

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alright sick
i'm really silly about this game i am just. Yeehaw. first ms scumgame lets go

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i'll try to play the way i do as town (townhunting before scumhunting, absolutely unhinged and not in a good way), but i will have to reread my recent games for that

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I will townread you unless you do something absolutely irredeemable, which it doesn't look like you will

same

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have there been any previous games with this setup?

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ok great
i think i'm posting too much lol

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also yeah it would be a bad idea to mimic my towngames because i keep getting TUNNELLED in them
pedit: thanks for the tips man

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lol

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lol

What's the matter?

it's funny to me how fast you dropped that promised TR

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alright sick
i'm gonna have to question you on that TR though so i dont look scummy for just lying down and accepting it

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btw shout at me if i goof

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alright sick
i'm gonna have to question you on that TR though so i dont look scummy for just lying down and accepting it

I guess that's a personality thing because I pretty much accept all townreads unless their reasoning is dumb

i mean in theory mafia would want to collect as many trs as possible and be generally universally townread so they don't get hung
and usually i annoy the hell out of people by poking holes in their trs (i would point you to a game to showcase this but it's still ongoing)

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YOU WERE RIGHT your persona is spicy idk how to respond to this
pedit: fair

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getting tr'd by my neighbor :strong:

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drew is just fluffposting, can i call them out for it

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i did it

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alright okay
who's yoru neighbor? ahve you been getting along wiht them

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help i cant spell

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oh
my neighbor is skygazer
according to her i seem towny because i can't shut my mouth (paraphrased) and that i had a "stream of consciousness that can't be easily replicated by scum"
which is... yeah basically the same thing
yeah it is

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how did you figure out? was it because we both pushed drew?

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oh shit

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oh shit

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im just like
Are we really that obvious???? ive been trying so hard to have less general synergy with them hajshaj

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oh
okay
phew i thought we were buddying too much

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i thought you were like getting it off the general thread but glad you didn't

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furtive is only talking mechanics and not players

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who do we want for nightkills? alsao im goofing lol

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it's so funny how basically everyone thinks i'm town. guys. please. i'm not town. how are you falling for this.

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i love scumgames because i just think of my partner as a glorified mason and remember not to hang them and go ahead and mess with town

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OK FOR A SECOND I THOUGHT I WAS POSTING THAT IN SKYGAZER PT AND FREAKED OUT

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alright

Lome and patchwork are not scum together.

also LOL

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people who townread me - furt, sky, kitty, grim&korina, you.
people who don't townread me: aureal (literally hasn't contributed), drew
probably we can go for an aureal mishang or somethihng

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everyone also seems to widely townread you as well, maybe except drew

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this is way too easy and it's kind of sad

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have you talked to oxclavian (yes i know i misspelled that) in your neighborhood?

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oh okay

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lol they just think you're trolling at this point
it would suck if some people did start pushing you though

ugh i swear sometimes my posts feel a little artificial, is it just me? i swear i'm better at "contributing" when i'm not town as compared to when i'm actually town lol

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i'm already burnt out lol

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also i may b pressuring you in thread but keep in mind you have no obligation to continue with this game
if you have low motivation or little time you should prioritize yourself over a mafia game

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the beautiful thing about this game is that i don't even have to WIFOM nightkills, because there's a 1/27 chance of scum being together

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ah that's chill
it's funny how everyone knows you're competent and they're all just like "lorne pls solve do something lorne" and you're like "No"
and no one can do anything about it

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You are really anxious to kill someone it seems.

Are you already that confident in your reads, and in lockstep with your hood mate?

no not really but i do want to at least have my options open
and in case aureal isn't the hang for today i'm the one who's going to nk her

actually it's a bad idea to announce my night action to the entire thread, my anonymous neighbor will kill her instead

What......in the actual.....fuck......is this??

Explain why you shouldn't be power elimed right now?

VOTE: Patch

lol watch me get quickhammered for making a joke

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ok but it is funny to go "no i'm not in sync with my hood mate" and go "actually they should kill aureal"

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aureal is onto us fuck

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am i going too far? i don't want to get a miselim on you but it really is scummy to pop up out of nowhere when i scumread you

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rlly self-conscious about my play rn did i do something wrong like why r drew and aureal on my case???? i've been trying to look towny SO BAD
that joke wasn't even a scumslip i don't get it
aureal is just OMGUSing me and thinks it's me/you (shes right ofc but like.)
man im really sucking ass this game if i've already got two players sussing me

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drew shouldnt be an issue but ill probably rb him tonite just in case, i think by the way drew reacted to aureals push on furtive mean they could be neighborhood?
sky scumreads ox a ton and i'm thinking i could use that to my advantage

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this is way too easy and it's kind of sad

I FUCKING JINXED MYSELF AHHH

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lorne do you know what drew's going on about
did i actually slip or am i just getting reaction tested

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u seem v. self aware in how ur playing which is weird if ur town in this game. masons/tprs makes sense for self awareness but we’re all the same role so why do u seem so self-aware abt ur play?

literally fml i have no idea what any of them are talking abt

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FUCK i fucked up this game so bad

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the thing is that this is just three players
the other three are god-knows-where what happen if both furtive and kt come back and hammer me
and i don't even know about sky at this point

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lorne is this where i do something irredeemable and you start pushing me

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ajsaksjhdsjkasjaksjak fml

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ACTUALLY FML i am stressing out over a mafia game instead of my compsci homework

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lorne we're going to lose and it's all my fault

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i think you can at least inactive until they hang me and then powerwolf the fuck out of this game
hope that scumread i made on you separates us a little more, and if i get hung you should do patchwork/aureal

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lorne my good buddy pal.................... where are you ):

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THE THING IS I CANT EVNE DISAPPEAR NOW

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bruh this entire game was a series of misplays after misplays
constantly trying to promote discussion and getting sussed for that because i didn't really ever contribute myself because i thought i had been
early drew scumread
not talking to skygazer enough
ah fuck and then when i was active i basically made myself the center of attention so i can't just leave

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AND ME TALKING ABOUT HOOD KILLS? HORRIBLE FUCKIGN MISPLAY THERE i absolutely should have NOT

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i really dont get how im being "self-aware" tho im just like depressed 24/7 its like a thing i do

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looking through my iso and none of my posts really seem to ping me like that ?

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i was going to push for an ox miselim on d2 because of how grim was tunnelling aureal FURIOUSLY earlier but now i literally cant even because im the one up for the hand

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i was like "hahaha i am not paranoid" earlier but that was a lie i am definitely fucking paranoid like my stomach feels all Wack

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sorry lorne the posts in this pt from me are all so nonsensical

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Spoiler:

i'm really not that much of a newbie and i Hope i dont seem that incompetent lmao, i'm pretty garbage at scumhunting though and i've gotten scrutinized for it in basically all my games

it's a little strange how you can be so confident in my being town on page two
i dont even feel like im coming off that way either

no, i just want to see if other people townread me and if there's a difference in reason (and not because of your reason, which is basically "patch is super excited, town")

and no i'm not saying that out of ego, i literally have fifty posts which is more than most of you

Who said you were anti-town?

implications

btw, aureal, when you have time, can we have a readlist? pretty please with a cherry on top?

I'm not typically much for doing this 'readlist' thing but since you asked nicely, in descending order of towniness:

Doctor Drew: leaning town as I feel pretty in sync with his attitude here (no I did not think his saying he "loved" Lorne's TR on patch meant he was saying it was townie), also furtive gave a meta-read that Drew is town and if furtive is scum he's probably not starting off the game with little but a TR on his partner

Oclaxian Empire: I don't agree with all their takes but asks good questions, seems to actually be trying to figure things out

Skygazer: mixed feelings, had to ISO her to even remember anything besides getting thrown off by Drew's sarcastic 'love', I don't love the talk about her neighbor being town and asking about neighbor claiming at the start but I did like the retort to Lorne about being able to change reads

patchwork: uuuuuuuuuuh I'm not nearly as sold on 'overeager town' as everyone else, I'm finding it hard to follow the deluge of posts, and the reaction to furtive's mistake seems like the sort of thing they'd say if scum partnered

Lorne Malvo: I did not like 94, kinda seemed like trying to direct the flow of the game, and the whole conversation about TRing patch to saying not to casually throw out townreads to acting very confident about it reads really oddly- I guess it's a serious read now but for a while there it seemed like some sort of game Lorne was playing

KittyTacky: I don't know where they're coming from with reads that are largely the opposite of how I feel and his reads give me nothing to work with to know why, also it seems kinda scummy the way he reacted to my massclaim joke

furtiveglance: possible scumslip, hasn't been much of a presence (and I kind of expect him to be a presence), and his 125 waffling on Lorne seems like the sort of thing he'd scumread

on me: agree on the overeager town thing, though how is what i said regarding furt's "slip" partnered? i was just saying i didnt wanna jump to conclusions, so i was going with occam's razor there and assuming it's a misread, like how korina and grim both thought maf could only be paired with town
on kt: are you placing them low because you dont agree, or for other reasons?
lorne: if theyre trying to guide conversation, ehat about me?
also is sky just a vibe read? /genq

ohh okay my bad

It isn't your bad, you just dont have enough confidence in yourself

i've gotten tunnelled very badly (in one game, by furtive themself) for behaviors that aren't really that scummy and based on personality so honestly it's kind of what you'd expect

yeah i know i'm just like not willing to get tunneled over dumb shit again
glad everyone seems to tr me this game though because Oh Man

glad we're seeing more aureal activity though! the main reason iu scumread her was for just not really doing much? like her early posts didn't have much substance, i could barely remember that she was even a part of this game, and the push on furtive wasn't even technically a push, but i like this a lot more.
readlist right now is probably
me
aureal
ox
sky
drew
furtive
kt
lorne

btw, furtive, i asked you earlier if you could quote some posts from sky that pinged you one way or another. could you do that when you have time? i'm interested in seeing your take on her

When did I become your top scumread?

just now obviously
if you don't want me to scumread don't appear whenever someone says something bad about you and yknow.... maybe actually do things? and this is not "drowning out conversation" btw, you've not been contributing at all for the entire game so far

So you are the self proclaimed 'Towniest Player in the Game!'

Nothing sketchy about saying that, nope definitely not.

i'm widely townread and i am town, therefore i am the towniest

why me in specific huh

also yeah my read on aureal has definitely changed, scum would absolutely not try to push me (towniest player in the game) as a wagon, it's counterproductive to their goal when they could push someone easier like sky or kt. it's very towny in my eyes UNVOTE:

this is also a really interesting post. scum can and will push townie players in the game. like. that's how you can start a bus on a partner.

really? in my eyes it seems counterproductive to wagon me because literally no one's going to try and wagon me, scum would probably go for easier miselims imo

????? no? i'm just saying i'm basically universally townread, and scum would rather prefer to pursue a miselim that's easier to deal with, like targeting one of the inactives. however, aureal goes after me, which makes her vote seem more genuine and the whole iso is good too.

Nah, would prefer to let you feel the heat and paranoia.

that's funny because i feel absolutely none
you can keep your vote on me but you're 100% in the wrong

is this a reaction test???

here are 15 quotes from u that show in my opinion ur self-aware of how you're playing and how you look in the game. most of them are centered around u calling out ur being townread, or ur the towniest player. it's super weird for town to go "well i don't think i'm looking townie" type of thing. town can absolutely challenge a townread on them, but not go "i don't think i look town, the fuck?" y'know why? bc if ur town and u dont think ur looking townie, that's a problem. u know ur town. the only person who would reasonably think "i don't think i look town and that's a problem" is scum. town can think that too, yes. but scum are more focused on trying to fix it than scum for one reason: it's ok if ur town and you get miselim'd up to a certain point. we're in the point that town is reasonably ok with a mislim, and being mislim'd as town isn't that bad.

sure, it'd be bad if u think ur hood partner is town. but there's one case in the game where that'd be even more true. ur scum. u know ur partner is town or mafia. u know where ur vig shot is going. you know it's not going to be on ur partner ever, why? bc if it is, you just refuse to shoot. and guess what? the shot never goes thru. and that's just assuming ur not partnered with them. if ur partnered with them, congrats, u have the potential for a double kill, but effectively, u have a convoluted factional kill.

that's why i think ur scum. i think u trying to change ur meta is a little weird as an excuse too. like sure, u could be, but i don't think sheeping too much or playing defensively is generally a thing that could be used for meta. i think that's just u played poorly in that game, and ur trying not to play poorly this game. i just. i think ur scum. i think ur too self-aware of how ur playing and how others are perceiving u for u to realistically be town.

lmao i'm fucked, time to just not respond to this at all

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here's to ignoring all of my problems in even mafia

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but anyways i'll write up a huge-ass essay to respond to it when i have time (i do Not have time)

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draftpost:
im not really sure how some of these seem "self-aware"? some of these are just how i think. the one on posts is just information that's open to everyone, carrying the pagecount is obv true because i was posting the most at that point... talking about another game where i get tunneled isn't scummy, lorne was basically like "ur not confident enough" and it was the reason as to why i'm not that confident... because i got tunneled over every play i made....
i can understand the ones i made in response to drew + reaction test though

most of them are centered around u calling out ur being townread, or ur the towniest player.

and is there an issue with that? i literally am. or was, at least. i know people are townreading me. is it scummy to just echo that? or is it bad, because i'm the one doing it and not others?

it's super weird for town to go "well i don't think i'm looking townie" type of thing.

ur seriously taking those first two quotes out of context, grim
those first two quotes refer to the "newbie who likes sunshine and rainbows" not "why do you think i'm towny"
already explained why i was asking about grim's tr on me. not because i was hunting for more townreads or whatever but because i felt that grim's tr on me was weird so early and wanted to see if others felt the same way, because i am prone to misinterpreting things and reading tone incorrectly.

the only person who would reasonably think "i don't think i look town and that's a problem" is scum.

actually no i do that a lot lmao

but scum are more focused on trying to fix it than scum for one reason: it's ok if ur town and you get miselim'd up to a certain point. we're in the point that town is reasonably ok with a mislim, and being mislim'd as town isn't that bad.

okay. but was i "trying to fix it"? no, not really... and if i were scum, why would i need to fix it anyways? everyone was townreading me, nothing would stop me from just going inactive (like lorne or kitty).
i literally said that if drew thought i was scumslipping they could push me and hammer me idk where you think i'm not okay with a lim on me?? like i want to play this game and i would prefer not the get hung, but you're the ones who look stupid when you quickhammer me and miselim, not me.
like there's more posts about how ppl will scumread me or you will point out how you read me in a certain way and i just concede it because i can't argue with someone's subjective view of how i post. that's literally what i do.

you know it's not going to be on ur partner ever, why? bc if it is, you just refuse to shoot. and guess what? the shot never goes thru.

you do realize that (hypothetically) that if i were mafia, and if my neighbor scumread my partner and i disagreed it would make me look bad... right? especially because people only want to shoot if they're 100% sure in their read...?

i think u trying to change ur meta is a little weird as an excuse too. like sure, u could be, but i don't think sheeping too much or playing defensively is generally a thing that could be used for meta.

it's not an excuse.... you asked me a question and i answered... the explanation is that i played bad in both those games. sheeping and sucking up to better players and not actively solving was bad, so i stopped that. that was in 2112. in 2113 i tried to be more active and thought i was contributing, but i really wasn't because a large majority of my posts were even worse than they were in 2112, and they were all reactive.
i play different because i played badly in those two, and i am trying not to suck ass this game. obviously, it's not working, because wanting to look town is scummy, i guess.

i just. i think ur scum.

okay, that's fine. thank you for explaining it, at least. i don't really know what to say because at this point i'm probably going to get tunneled again for making this post and some of those posts do look bad but i am not scum.

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stinky draft but it'll have to do for now, i've been typing that for the past twenty or so minutes
ill just come back and edit it tmrw

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i freaked out
should i bus or no? a hang on you seems inevitable

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ill probably case you and come to the conclusion of null scumlean

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FUCK ME i'm under pressure from ox

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aagshagshashajshajaauuuughhhh aaaahhhhh

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how do i even DEAL with grim
they're so headstrong and so blunt
and also they haven't responded to my defense of myself... would it be scummy to point it out
oh well fuck it

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lorne are you playing against wincon

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would like to reiterate that im being a bit of a bitch but im just trying to look like a frustrated townie and that none of it is personal

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you played fine this game and hopefully once you flip no one will think we're paired (asides from aureal but i'll see if i can take care of her or drew via a vig)

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you're just accumulating votes on yourself on purpose lol

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tbh dont think we should go for a sky elim d1 because i want furtive to nk sky and i want to roleblock him
and then we can go for a miselim d2

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bro i didnt think u were secretly an asshole godddamn

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replacement if you see this, this might be an uphill battle bcz lorne was intentionally being anti-town

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man lorne i rlly thought you were cool. smfh.

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well what do i now

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thread is so dead lol

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yea also ive been following the newbie scumtell of zeroign in activity
literally gonna kms because i only just realized it

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maaaan my sleep schedule is fucked up
i'm too good at talking to myself lmao
i don't think ill be able to push a kt elim, a switch on aureal would be too abrupt
bussing is cringe

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hiya

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hi enchant no rush buit whats th e plan

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i think aureal and kt aren't neighbor paired
was thinking about it yesterday but the desperation vote thing from kt feels unpaired
so it's probably aureal or furt with drew, or drew with kt

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enchant it'd be sick if you could back to me regarding night actions
i'm thinking me and sky are gonna go for either kt or drew depending on what you and korina do
probably going to roleblock drew because i don't think furtive and aureal were paired, meaning furtive can be paired with either drew or kt
kt wouldn't kill me if they were paired with drew and if furtive were paired with drew furtive would probably make drew kill sky
and also drew scumreads me for some bullshit reason so i think bring them to prevent them from killing me would be sick while me and SKU kill drew

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why did it autocorrect sky to SKU

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alright we chill then, lmk who takes the action

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do you wanna push a furtive miselim

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enchant we can probably quickhammer ox are you on right now

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sorry furtive voted so i hammered without you

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afuck i thought that was hammer

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enchant as soon as you get on PLEASE hammer

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i was at calss soerry

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I am here.

If you want to hammer, quote any my message here so i get notification.

GET ON

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SORRY ENCHANT ARE YOU ONLINE

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HOW HAS DREW STILL NOT UNVOTED LMAO

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OKAY ILL VOTE RIGHT NOW

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ENCHANT IF YOU DONT HAMMER RIGH TNOW WE'RE FUCKED

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LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOO