Mini Normal 1996: Floral Mafia [Endgame!]

Gamma Emerald · Wed Mar 21, 2018 3:09 am

In post 1452, Tchill13 wrote:gamma i need to know why me being worried about an ausuka town flip is your tipping point to vote me.

I thought you were aiming for it to clear yourself in Cedrick's eyes. How are you worried about it?

Gamma Emerald · Wed Mar 21, 2018 3:11 am

In post 1459, Tchill13 wrote:
In post 1117, northsidegal wrote:
A lynch has been achieved!

VC 1.FINAL

votes

implosion
(7): Hopkirk, Creature, Gamma Emerald, Havo, Mumble, Killthestory, Luca Blight

Mumble
(1): Cedrick

Luca Blight
(5): Ausuka, MariaR, katherine, Tchill13, implosion

Not Voting
(0):

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch

The day 1 deadline is in
: (expired on 2018-03-22 19:42:59)

Mod Notes
: Cedrick is V/LA until Monday.
Luca Blight is V/LA until Wednesday

Katherine and ausuka BOTH took neutral stances on Implosion day 1 and BOTH were on the Luca wagon.

pretty important imo. I'm getting pretty close to wanting to see a lynch there.

In post 1460, Tchill13 wrote:they were also BOTH right about KTS...

In post 1461, Tchill13 wrote:VOTE: katherine

Only leaned more so to this than Ausuka due to activity. I think i've laid out a legitimate case for both though.

Gamma i need to know why an Ausuka town flip being my concern was what pushed you to vote me.

I'll answer any other questions people want to ask me before my lynch is pushed through hopefully.

I've tried my best to explain my play, take stances on each player and leave with at least a decent case on someone. MY day 1 play is geared towards the fact it's hard to lynch scum day 1. So, as amusing as it is, when i'm a part of a town that lynches scum day 1 i come out looking scummy af. First time it's happened i do believe.

I understand if i need to be lynched because i'll be a part of the majority of players lynch pool from now till lylo.

This is actually a good chain of logic to point to Ausuka/Katherine, not TRing you yet but I like the thought process

Gamma Emerald · Wed Mar 21, 2018 9:27 am

In post 1513, Hopkirk wrote:He had you as a townread, but not a hard one. He acknowledged you could be a wolf. He had you as scum then flipped to a townread (based on conditions at that point). That could easily have switched back after the Implosion flip. I'm concerned that's the case.

Why would she kill him in that case? Now if he kept flipping his read I'd understand completely, I played a game where House kept flipping his read on me to test if I was scum because he believed if I was I'd kill him to get the wild card out of the game.

Gamma Emerald · Wed Mar 21, 2018 4:36 pm

In post 1524, MariaR wrote:Like the only thing that gamma has done that is ping worthy is him not calling me out for saying "I can read him 100%" (he normally srs me for that) but besides that he's still in top tier town.
I don't get your gamma sr at all or why a gamma/havo team makes sense to you
Pedit: Yeah Luca's "role" is more then likely scum
still think he's fake claiming

I don't SR you for saying you can 100% read me, that was only once I recall (Mini 1850), in further instances where you say that I generally call out instances where you were wrong, this time I chose not to cos a) didn't want to beat a dead horse, b) I felt like me having to explain that would only do harm to myself, and c) I felt like it would be nice to be mutual townreads for once because I had been townreading you before it
And why do you think Luca would fakeclaim in the instance they did?

Gamma Emerald · Wed Mar 21, 2018 4:38 pm

In post 1542, Cedrick wrote:As soon as kts calls tchill scum instead of town
In post 266, implosion wrote:kts is also starting to sound like he's making shit up in a scummy way. His flip on tchill is really odd and makes more sense from scum than from town i think.
Discrediting town for his read change on his buddy?

Kts also said tchill meta points to tchill scum. Idk what that means exactly but clearly he saw something

Oh yeah the implosion/kts fight was a thing

Gamma Emerald · Wed Mar 21, 2018 4:42 pm

In post 1551, Tchill13 wrote:
In post 773, Killthestory wrote:vig shoot implosion

In post 783, Killthestory wrote:
In post 773, Killthestory wrote:vig shoot implosion
this is my cover for when i shoot implosion
so mafia knew there was probably a vig in the game im assuming. (this would mean luca is probably scum wouldn't it?)

and this is probably why KTS was NK'd over Mumble, Luca or katherine.

smh
do you not understand sarcasm? also marginal scumpoints for taking that seriously cos that means as scum you'd have thought it a good kill
And here's reasons why at least some of the people rattled of as n1 kill choices are not feasible
Mumble: mafia had a strongman meaning some sort of town protective. With them losing their strongman d1 they could reasonably assume muble was being protected n1 and would be shooting else where.
Katherine: was very inactive and as such no threat to scum
Luca you may have a point on though

Gamma Emerald · Wed Mar 21, 2018 4:58 pm

In post 1572, MariaR wrote:
In post 1569, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1524, MariaR wrote:Like the only thing that gamma has done that is ping worthy is him not calling me out for saying "I can read him 100%" (he normally srs me for that) but besides that he's still in top tier town.
I don't get your gamma sr at all or why a gamma/havo team makes sense to you
Pedit: Yeah Luca's "role" is more then likely scum
still think he's fake claiming
I don't SR you for saying you can 100% read me, that was only once I recall (Mini 1850), in further instances where you say that I generally call out instances where you were wrong, this time I chose not to cos a) didn't want to beat a dead horse, b) I felt like me having to explain that would only do harm to myself, and c) I felt like it would be nice to be mutual townreads for once because I had been townreading you before it
And why do you think Luca would fakeclaim in the instance they did?
I would fake claim that if I was a cop or some shit

that's not a good thing to announce

Gamma Emerald · Thu Mar 22, 2018 7:07 am

In post 1588, MariaR wrote:Can we lynch in me and Aus? Leave Kath/Tchi out of it ty

Why are you arguing to lynch yourself

Gamma Emerald · Thu Mar 22, 2018 2:36 pm

In post 1600, northsidegal wrote:
Prodding Creature

Creature pls
I'm still thinking he's town but bro you need to come back if you're gonna come back, I want thoughts on current events

Gamma Emerald · Thu Mar 22, 2018 2:42 pm

In post 1603, Creature wrote:idk, players are hard to sort.

Anyone you do have sorted?

Gamma Emerald · Thu Mar 22, 2018 2:47 pm

I think it's acceptable

Gamma Emerald · Thu Mar 22, 2018 2:56 pm

In post 1608, Creature wrote:Still I don't know who else plays MU other than Luca, Havo, Cedrick and me.

Aren't you forgetting someone...

Gamma Emerald · Thu Mar 22, 2018 2:57 pm

Who is Luca on MU btw

Gamma Emerald · Thu Mar 22, 2018 3:10 pm

In post 1616, Creature wrote:
In post 1613, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1608, Creature wrote:Still I don't know who else plays MU other than Luca, Havo, Cedrick and me.
Aren't you forgetting someone...
Oh right.
In post 1614, Gamma Emerald wrote:Who is Luca on MU btw
Luca Blight.

OK thought they might be someone I knew by another name
Does Cedrick go by a different name there?

Gamma Emerald · Thu Mar 22, 2018 3:10 pm

In post 1617, Cedrick wrote:
In post 1611, Creature wrote:Mafia universe.
Never played there.

wut

Gamma Emerald · Thu Mar 22, 2018 3:33 pm

In post 1620, MariaR wrote:mu is fun from time to time

You play there?

Gamma Emerald · Fri Mar 23, 2018 5:59 am

In post 1623, Tchill13 wrote:
In post 1603, Creature wrote:idk, players are hard to sort.
so no thoughts on events since your last post?

Is creature lock scum since he got prodded now?

Nope. He's been giving too many original thoughts to be scum at this point.

Gamma Emerald · Fri Mar 23, 2018 10:30 am

In post 1656, Cedrick wrote:Maria. Earlier you said you don’t like meta yet you admit your town read on tchill is meta based. So why if you hate it are you using it here?

She doesn't? She also townreads me off of meta

Gamma Emerald · Fri Mar 23, 2018 10:36 am

What's the reason we're suspecting Maria currently? Is it just her redirecting the lynch, cos that feels like a bad reason if it's by itself

Gamma Emerald · Fri Mar 23, 2018 10:36 am

In post 1679, Cedrick wrote:
In post 1676, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1656, Cedrick wrote:Maria. Earlier you said you don’t like meta yet you admit your town read on tchill is meta based. So why if you hate it are you using it here?
She doesn't? She also townreads me off of meta
She said earlier this game she hates meta so what do you mean she doesn’t?

I think she hates people trying to read

Gamma Emerald · Fri Mar 23, 2018 10:37 am

meta read her*
goddamnit

Gamma Emerald · Fri Mar 23, 2018 10:55 am

In post 1697, Tchill13 wrote:a few of us have 200+ post... Katherine has 12 but we ABSOLUTELY can't scum read him. laughable.

Look if im scum i want my slot and katherine in here till lylo. Thats for sure.

So look at who's advocating against those lynches and ask yourself why that's town motivated.

Mhm this is actually some strong ass logic and I'd love to hear Maria's response

Gamma Emerald · Fri Mar 23, 2018 11:02 am

The accusation that you're keeping someone and their constant suspect to lylo

Gamma Emerald · Fri Mar 23, 2018 11:43 am

In post 1711, Tchill13 wrote:
In post 1521, MariaR wrote:
In post 82, implosion wrote:VOTE: katherine

In post 84, implosion wrote:maria's reasoning is solid. Also dislike tchill's 41. Also skeptical of cedrick's opening.
so the scumteam of me kath/impo thought
"Oh let's make a scumcase on kath and buss within the first 50 posts"
You gotta see how that logic is a...yeah
this is hardly a case and um... quite the overreaction.

Not really an overreaction, why do you say that?

Gamma Emerald · Fri Mar 23, 2018 12:18 pm

In post 1714, Tchill13 wrote:wheres the case? thats the overreaction. I've also seen scum bus early before. A lot actually.

Idk I recall someone poking her on that just before, did you simply ISO her?

Gamma Emerald · Fri Mar 23, 2018 12:31 pm

In post 1716, Tchill13 wrote:Yes. To see how many votes she had when she declared she or ausuka should be lynched and u stumbled upon that.

Then you should also read the context if ur gonna make that accusation

Gamma Emerald · Fri Mar 23, 2018 12:44 pm

In post 1718, Tchill13 wrote:Or I should have stopped posting at post 10 and been lock town this entire game

That won't work ever

Gamma Emerald · Fri Mar 23, 2018 7:18 pm

In post 1733, Mumble wrote:I don't like either wagon now...but I don't know what to think about why they formed like they did.

Who do you think is scum then?

Gamma Emerald · Fri Mar 23, 2018 11:35 pm

Stahp
Maria is town

Gamma Emerald · Sat Mar 24, 2018 7:00 am

In post 1754, Tchill13 wrote:
In post 1748, Gamma Emerald wrote:Stahp
Maria is town
How?

She didn't really give an answer to the fact that she's hard defending the two slots that would help scum the most in lylo.

I think she did though?

Gamma Emerald · Sat Mar 24, 2018 7:02 am

In post 1756, Ausuka wrote:
In post 1748, Gamma Emerald wrote:Stahp
Maria is town
But why?

I don't really see anything super-scum-motivated there
It's kinda a meta/gut read but I still believe in it, it feels right

Gamma Emerald · Sat Mar 24, 2018 10:11 am

In post 1764, Hopkirk wrote:@Gamma: any thoughts on who Tchill probably isn't partners with? I thought about this earlier and it made me switch to MariaR. Want to know if you agree.

Mostly likely not partners with Mumble or katherine off the top of my head. Will put some extra thought into that sometime soon.

Gamma Emerald · Sat Mar 24, 2018 12:51 pm

In post 1765, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1764, Hopkirk wrote:@Gamma: any thoughts on who Tchill probably isn't partners with? I thought about this earlier and it made me switch to MariaR. Want to know if you agree.
Mostly likely not partners with Mumble or katherine off the top of my head. Will put some extra thought into that sometime soon.

Looking back it's probably someone who got pushed early-game because of his "some people are pushing hard very early" comment
So maybe he could be scum with Katherine

Gamma Emerald · Sat Mar 24, 2018 3:20 pm

In post 1777, Flavor Leaf wrote:Oh, you talking about Tchill.

Last time I was scum with Tchill we pulled a fake neighborhood gambit. Was pretty cool.

OMFG LMAO
You are too fresh my man

Gamma Emerald · Sat Mar 24, 2018 3:27 pm

I was more talking about the fact you had me pocketed enough to be willing to do a mason claim gambit
in fact both of my picks for that were scum

Gamma Emerald · Sat Mar 24, 2018 3:33 pm

How far are you right now?

Gamma Emerald · Sat Mar 24, 2018 3:52 pm

In post 1784, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 1783, Gamma Emerald wrote:How far are you right now?
I’ve read the ins and out of a decent amount of pages. I let NSG know I wanted in in the very beginning.

I’m at work right now, so not actively reading up. Just replying to you guys, cuz i like ya, and want to see if you are scum

Have you read my full ISO?

Gamma Emerald · Sat Mar 24, 2018 4:29 pm

Okay well I'm not gonna worry about what your read on me is until you either fully read the game or read my ISo because I feel like some of it should shine through as towny.

Gamma Emerald · Sat Mar 24, 2018 5:18 pm

Because it's not formed with the whole picture in mind, so it holds less value

Gamma Emerald · Sat Mar 24, 2018 6:31 pm

here have a Boomy

Gamma Emerald · Sat Mar 24, 2018 6:55 pm

lol you're just salty my memes are so fresh

Gamma Emerald · Sun Mar 25, 2018 5:23 am

In post 1800, Tchill13 wrote:So Luca and gamma,while we're waiting, you're dead set on lynching me and there's nothing that can change your mind?

I mean if you can provide evidence that, say, you're not scum with implosion, I'd change my mind

Gamma Emerald · Sun Mar 25, 2018 7:13 am

In post 1812, Tchill13 wrote:I can't provide factual evidence. All I can do is tell you why I played the end of day 1 the way I did.

Also I'm better than this as scum. You can meta me if you want. If not fine. Flavor should be able to confirm this though.

If I was scum a claim would have been killed. Either mumble or Luca. No way a hard claim doesn't get NK'D over a sarcastic KTS vig comment.

Luca didn't claim d1 nice try. Plus kts wanted your head, that's reason enough to kill him.

Gamma Emerald · Sun Mar 25, 2018 7:24 am

OKay, well guess what? Why the fuck would you try to kill a commuter? In addition a Mumble kill would be inadvisable given implosion flipping strongman. So nice try but your excuses aren't valid.

Gamma Emerald · Sun Mar 25, 2018 7:25 am

Also Tchill hopped off implosion when he was l-1, pretty bad look for Teech if I do say so myself

Gamma Emerald · Sun Mar 25, 2018 7:31 am

In post 1118, northsidegal wrote:
implosion,
Mafia 1-Shot Strongman
, was lynched Day 1.

Night one ends in (expired on 2018-03-20 00:33:59).

1-Shot strongman. I'm surprised you don't know this and you're probably faking ignorance because of that, but if there's a strongman, it's likely to counter some town protective/blocking. Only one time it was not included for that reason was because it was instead there as a rolecop guilty where every mafia had the modifier

Gamma Emerald · Sun Mar 25, 2018 7:42 am

In post 1830, Tchill13 wrote:And we're gonna assume scum though to kill the guy who mentioned vig, a PR that is worth protecting, over the guy who claimed tracker?

Excuse me? How is an offhand mention of vig important? He didn't flip vig or scum so it's irrelevant.

Gamma Emerald · Sun Mar 25, 2018 7:52 am

1) he was powertown
2) no one really wanted to lynch him outside of Cedrick
3) Mumble was the only claimed PR that would need protection, therefore it wasn't wise to shoot there

Gamma Emerald · Sun Mar 25, 2018 9:18 am

In post 1852, Ausuka wrote:Creature could totally be scum now btw.

how

Gamma Emerald · Sun Mar 25, 2018 9:21 am

In post 1854, Ausuka wrote:I was townreading him for activity because that's his meta but I looked at it and he hasn't been all that active. I have more posts than him as do most people. He's probably busy irl rn though but if this keeps up he could definitely be mafia.

He's been posting consistently though, even though he hasn't posted much

Gamma Emerald · Sun Mar 25, 2018 9:42 am

Tracker gets no result if it targets commuter

Gamma Emerald · Sun Mar 25, 2018 10:12 am

I've articulated it poorly. Creature should be active and making decent content as town, and imo it's most important early, because he could end up losing interestl ater for whatever reason. At this point I feel like he's established enough opinions and such to be locktown even if he does flake.

Gamma Emerald · Sun Mar 25, 2018 10:12 am

In post 1862, Tchill13 wrote:Me, Katherine, Maria and creature. There's no real reason to TR any of us imo.

Keep prying my friend it just makes you look worse

Gamma Emerald · Sun Mar 25, 2018 2:53 pm

In post 1867, Flavor Leaf wrote:Soul reading Tchill, Creature, and Maria as town. More than soul, but i don’t have time right now.

I’ll get to this game tonight, probably late.

On what basis?

Gamma Emerald · Mon Mar 26, 2018 6:30 am

In post 1898, Tchill13 wrote:Man. What should I say...

So why didn't I get lynched earlier? Why did it take this long?

What?

Gamma Emerald · Mon Mar 26, 2018 7:14 am

In post 1904, Tchill13 wrote:
In post 1885, Creature wrote:Guess Flavor Leaf is town.

In post 1886, Creature wrote:VOTE: Tchill

L-2
Creature calls flavor town because flavor called creature town. Proceeds to vote another flavor town read.

No? Also every time you continue to shade Creature I like you less and less. I know Creature's meta much better than you, so just fucking shut up about him.

Gamma Emerald · Mon Mar 26, 2018 7:15 am

In post 1908, Tchill13 wrote:I've thrown out about... 4 or 5 different outcomes because I simply don't know what's going on. My day 1 play is geared towards a mislynch day 1. So of course when we actually lynch then I'm in uncommon territory.

If scum didn't bus. Maria/katherine (maybe ausuka but I doubt it.)

If scum did bus then it's Luca/???

Only issue I have is lynching me doesn't lead to anything. If I flip town then what? Because I can assure you I won't flip scum which means that town flip needs to lead to something decent.

Your bussing team is stupid. Why would they flip to their strongman over whatever Luca is?

Gamma Emerald · Mon Mar 26, 2018 7:16 am

In post 1917, Kookoobird wrote:Creature needs to do more if he wants to be town. A simple meta dive shows he's a rare player that can literally be sorted by the activity overview page.

While his posting is sparser than normal I feel like he's still town based on what he has posted

Gamma Emerald · Mon Mar 26, 2018 7:17 am

In post 1923, Hopkirk wrote:Cedrick got crazily defensive when I suggested Luca/him. Luca didn't comment.

Don't care about that, what makes you think scum bussed their strongman over Luca?

Gamma Emerald · Mon Mar 26, 2018 7:22 am

In post 1926, Tchill13 wrote:
In post 1917, Kookoobird wrote:Creature needs to do more if he wants to be town. A simple meta dive shows he's a rare player that can literally be sorted by the activity overview page.
all i wanted to see is someone else say it.

Gamma, creature can fight his own battles hes a big boy. What would you say to someone LOCK towning me at this point because they "know me". It'd be pretty stupid wouldn't it?

I mean let me pull something up real quick, I'll tell you my logic here

Gamma Emerald · Mon Mar 26, 2018 7:29 am

Copied from Mathdino's Self-Appraisal topic
Consider this scenario:
You're in a game, and Almost50 claims "northsidegal is definitely town this game". He has good reasons. You can't read Almost50 or northsidegal. But you notice that Almost50 has 90% accuracy at reading NSG when he's town.
This is a team game. Trust your fellow players' strengths. The most probable scenario is that Almost50, if he's town, is correct. This means either:
A. They are scum together.
B. Almost50 is scum who knows NSG is town.
C. Almost50 is town who is 95% likely to be right on NSG.

Let's talk about this wrt myself. With knowing Creature's meta I can probably say I'm 80% confident he's town in this scenario. If he'd been more active that would be higher, less or making less content it would be lower. Now let's cover each of the scenarios.
A: Could be possible, if this is the case I'd be forcing Creature to post probably.
B: Something I have done in the past, but there's also the room for debate with you rn so arguing he's town could be -EV if enough people think otherwise.
C: I'm actually town and have faith in my read.

Which do you think is the case?

Gamma Emerald · Mon Mar 26, 2018 7:31 am

I'd probably vote Luca a day before lylo if it got to that point as a safety measure, will also peruse the logic presented here

Gamma Emerald · Mon Mar 26, 2018 7:38 am

In post 1942, Tchill13 wrote:Gamma you're a strong TR as well. My issue with defending creature for activity readable play is he'll never change because of that. He'll never progress as a player. I guess that's ok with him though so im not sure why im worried about it.

I just don't like lazy/ bad play being hard defended.

If he cares about winning as scum he'll work on it, because that kills his survivability.

Gamma Emerald · Mon Mar 26, 2018 10:08 am

VOTE: Luca
The points I've seen feel solid enough that I'm willing to follow on this

Gamma Emerald · Mon Mar 26, 2018 10:51 am

In post 1975, MariaR wrote:
In post 1971, Havo wrote:
In post 1968, MariaR wrote:I'll lynch luca over tchi but much rather vote havo

Havo
isn't getting lynched he's town ffs
Fixed your post for ya.
you win this round

she ddn't even fix the first line

Gamma Emerald · Mon Mar 26, 2018 2:48 pm

In post 1983, Luca Blight wrote:
In post 1970, Gamma Emerald wrote:VOTE: Luca
The points I've seen feel solid enough that I'm willing to follow on this
What is solid about any of this? It's basically
'Luca could be scum so let's lynch him"
.

It makes no sense to lynch me now. How about if I agree to die the day before LYLO? There is no reason to believe I'm actually scum here.

The things tying you to implosion are stronger than my initial issue of why would mafia bus their strongman over some other role. In addition lynching you now forces the people screaming you down to refocus if you're town.

Gamma Emerald · Thu Mar 29, 2018 1:43 am

In post 2119, Tchill13 wrote:Hmm. The Maria NK is very, very sketchy.

This reeks of "that sucks" tell
VOTE: Tchill

Gamma Emerald · Thu Mar 29, 2018 4:39 am

In post 2125, Havo wrote:
In post 2120, Ausuka wrote:VOTE: Havo
Why would you vote blind out of the gate?

These kind of votes always make me think you learned something last night thus the vote.
And since I know I’m town, makes me feel like you’re wanting to give that appearance maybe.

Why not wait to see if any info comes out? Like does Mumble have anything?

I would hope mumble didn't use his second shot before the second scum was eliminated :/

Gamma Emerald · Thu Mar 29, 2018 4:42 am

In post 2132, Ausuka wrote:
In post 1961, Mumble wrote:VOTE: Luca

In post 1970, Gamma Emerald wrote:VOTE: Luca
The points I've seen feel solid enough that I'm willing to follow on this

In post 1972, Havo wrote:Damn u guys. You wait til I finally forced myself to accept Lucas claim and then pull this?

VOTE: Luca

Yes I’m down with this. Will resolve a few things.
I mean I think there's definitely scum ^ here.

LOL pls
nice job shading the unCCed PR

Gamma Emerald · Thu Mar 29, 2018 4:45 am

In post 2135, Ausuka wrote:oh NO someone claimed 2-shot TRACKER with no other TRACKER in the game???? that CAN'T be scum EVER!

There's conditions where I would distrust it but for now I'm not

Gamma Emerald · Thu Mar 29, 2018 4:46 am

In post 2137, Kookoobird wrote:Ausuka and Tchill is still my best bet for the team.

pretty much agreed here

Gamma Emerald · Thu Mar 29, 2018 5:57 am

In post 2140, Ausuka wrote:
In post 2136, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2135, Ausuka wrote:oh NO someone claimed 2-shot TRACKER with no other TRACKER in the game???? that CAN'T be scum EVER!
There's conditions where I would distrust it but for now I'm not
I'm not distrusting the claim as such, but unless we massclaim and he only makes sense as town I'm treating the claim as NAI. And I don't understand why you tried to call me out for not putting him in locktown.

I'm fine with not locktoning but shading is no bueno

Gamma Emerald · Thu Mar 29, 2018 5:58 am

In post 2146, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 2130, Ausuka wrote:I mean I guess it could also be a Tchill/FL ploy to get attention onto the implo wagon but that seems a lot less likely than you just being scum.
Tchill/Flavor is too obvious to kill Maria, I feel.

If we were trying to make a wtf point as scum, I feel you’d be the correct kill.

Gamma, I still am leaning scum on you.

I’m town reading Creature.

I also think Ausuka is town. They have that antsy personality thing going on for them

WHy are you leaning scum on me if you don't think Maria was a wtf kill :[

Gamma Emerald · Thu Mar 29, 2018 6:00 am

In post 2154, Flavor Leaf wrote:@Gamma - I keep looking through your ISO, and I can’t really explain why i think you’re scum. Mainly I just don’t think you’re town

I feel this is a classic “doesn’t matter if you know I’m scum if you can’t get me lynched” scenario.

wat

Gamma Emerald · Thu Mar 29, 2018 6:00 am

In post 2157, Kookoobird wrote:Mumble - Havo - Hopkirk - Gamma
Creature
Luca - Katherine
Tchill - Maria - Ausuka

I should update

indeed you haven't taken out killes

Gamma Emerald · Thu Mar 29, 2018 6:06 am

In post 2191, Havo wrote:
In post 2190, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 2189, Havo wrote:
In post 2186, Kookoobird wrote:
In post 2182, Ausuka wrote:"Well the competing wagons will be good for future day phases."

He literally encourages the Implo wagon here.

Literally the only thing even coming close to derailing the Implo wagon is "If you're on a different wagon I'd love for you to switch to either Luca or mumble." and if his intention is to derail the wagon here I'm not sure why he jumps on implo thirty posts later. Also if you're trying to derail a wagon I think you generally do a LOT more than that.
This is weak as hell mate. He jumps on Implosion for under a page. He tried to make the competing wagons Luca and Mumble and then Mumble PR'd him. Stop giving these garbage replies full of wifom around him, it's annoying me. Flavour, if you're town you should know his other major push Katherine is also town. This slot is scum
And when he flips town what are you gonna say? Because he’ll flip town.
Lol, it’s Havo and Gamma.

Nah, more like you and Kook. Lol.

Wat

Gamma Emerald · Thu Mar 29, 2018 6:08 am

In post 2204, Ausuka wrote:I'm not shading the claim. I think that he is possible scum because of his vote on Luca and I don't like how you seem to be saying I can't do that.

lumping him in was not a good look imo

Gamma Emerald · Thu Mar 29, 2018 6:09 am

In post 2210, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 2205, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2146, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 2130, Ausuka wrote:I mean I guess it could also be a Tchill/FL ploy to get attention onto the implo wagon but that seems a lot less likely than you just being scum.
Tchill/Flavor is too obvious to kill Maria, I feel.

If we were trying to make a wtf point as scum, I feel you’d be the correct kill.

Gamma, I still am leaning scum on you.

I’m town reading Creature.

I also think Ausuka is town. They have that antsy personality thing going on for them
WHy are you leaning scum on me if you don't think Maria was a wtf kill :[
I don’t think Maria was a wtf kill. I make weird kills, and I always have reasons for those weird kills, and I’m sure whoever killed Maria had some sort of reason. “Confusion for the town” is an addition, not a reason. Maria was likely killed because she was a mislynch target, but probably wasn’t ever going to get lynched. Maria was actually a VT, as she claimed, and scum knew that. There’s a reason for the kill, we just have to figure out what the purpose was.

Why do I kill Maria tho, we had each other as town :/

Gamma Emerald · Thu Mar 29, 2018 6:14 am

In post 2219, Ausuka wrote:
In post 2217, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2204, Ausuka wrote:I'm not shading the claim. I think that he is possible scum because of his vote on Luca and I don't like how you seem to be saying I can't do that.
lumping him in was not a good look imo
Why not? They're the three players who weren't the organisers of the wagon {Hopkirk, tchill} and jumped on it, probably to get a mislynch.
If what FL says about Mumble is true, you are scum or Mumble is scum or both.

What did FL say about Mumble?

Gamma Emerald · Thu Mar 29, 2018 7:37 am

In post 2223, Flavor Leaf wrote:Tinfoil hat theory time:

Gamma’s partner was in decent standing with Maria. This was a good kill in the sense that it would distance them fro pressure today because of Maria being the kill. Immediately people label it as a weird kill, gamma pushes there. ALSO, who was pushing interest on a Gamma lynch? Me! BOONSKIIES. Maria dying relieves Gamma of some pressure due to the WIFOM, slog with being a weird kill, and who makes weird kills? Me! BOONSKIIES! A lot of you here know that. Ausuka even called it out as seeming like a Boon kill, which effectively makes it not a wtf Boon kill.

Maria dying, as a claimed VT, meant that scum didn’t plan on mislynching her, so scum likely didn’t scum read her already, and with her flip, people who were iffy on her would focus elsewhere. This sets up Tchill, Ausuka, and ME! BOONSKIIES!

If I’m wrong on Gamma, this idea is still valid.

Terrible argument. My partner was in good standing? Also possible scum were under her microscope. Why not consider that? I went after Tchill when he commented on the kill because there was no actual substance to the post. I will have you know my offsite experience has shown the "that sucks" tell to be very strong. Why would I kill Maria to relieve pressure when you would be a better kill if I was scum? No one ever listens to dead town anyway. And You doidn't make weird kills last game you were scum in? Obvtown, cop, obvtown, person pushing you, rolecop. That's a pretty logical progression. Also are you saying just because Ausuka said the kill looked like one you would make it's one you wouldn't make? Check your own signature numbskull. And nice job making the kill sound like one I would make, it's like you planned this from the start. You were mainly off my scum radar until this post, glgl

Gamma Emerald · Thu Mar 29, 2018 8:48 am

In post 2228, Tchill13 wrote:Oh please. People have been trying to lynch me forever. "Hopped off implosion at L -1 " is a valid reason.

"That sucks" theory is lazy and laughable.

Did I not just say I had meta to back it up?

Nobody has a clue what's going on and nobody has since day 2. KTS was more valuable than I thought.

Either scum bussed or the team is ausuka/flavor. I suggest we decide right now where we want to lean.

I don't think they bussed, in fact I was thinking the kill on kts, someone on the wagon, could point to scum being off the wagon, and funnily enough all my suspects rn are off the wagon! This might be confbias but I'm feeling like my gut is right here.

Ausuka and flavor could also be scum with someone that did bus.

You could be too :p

First of all is cedrick/kookoo town? I guess.

Second hopkirk has been heavily TR'd the whole game. Why kill Maria over hopkirk? At the end of the last day phase hopkirk seemed to pick up my initial push at the beginning of the day then fixed it up and pushed it through. Is hopkirk scum?

Hopkirk hasn't been heavily townread? Show me where everyone townreads him.

If hopkirk and kookoo are town, if I had a gun to my head I'd say they are, then gamma/ausuka/creature/flavor/havo is my pool.

How many days till lylo?

I guess I can give this pool a tentative pass but you can bet ur boots I'm gonna be looking into these pushes

@Tchill

has your suspicion on the katherine slot ever significantly dropped and if so when?

Gamma Emerald · Thu Mar 29, 2018 9:08 am

Okay thanks

Gamma Emerald · Thu Mar 29, 2018 10:59 am

Okay this is fucking bullshit: you keep going back and forth on whether that would be a weird kill for you.
VOTE: Flavor Leaf
No thanks

Gamma Emerald · Thu Mar 29, 2018 11:35 am

In post 2246, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 2244, Gamma Emerald wrote:Okay this is fucking bullshit: you keep going back and forth on whether that would be a weird kill for you.
VOTE: Flavor Leaf
No thanks
Where did I go back and forth? I do make “weird kills”. Never denied that. Like ever. I agreed with you that i didn’t make weird kills. They aren’t weird kills for me.

I don’t go back and forth on anything as town or scum, and if I do, I generally say why. If people think I go back and forth, that generally means they just aren’t comprehending it.

They aren’t weird kills for me, because to me these are normal. Everyone else generally calls me kills weird, or unorthodox, to me it’s regular, but I understand my process is different than others.

So your comment is entirely moot now, as you have been proven that you didn’t comprehend it.

Also, nice opportunistic hop after Tchill posted interest. Good play.

Tchill posted interest a few posts back iirc
As for the kills what you're saying is your kills make sense to you but not to anyone else? I guess that makes sense, but I still dislike how well put together your case is
Plus you saying I towncased you is a complete misrep I feel and is trying to gain illegitimate towncred

Gamma Emerald · Thu Mar 29, 2018 11:37 am

In post 2249, Flavor Leaf wrote:Back at Gamma. I didn’t go back and forth, that game just didn’t have weird kills. That doesn’t mean I don’t make weird kills, however I disagree that the NC kill last game wasn’t weird. I still go for what kill I think is optimal still. It’s just people think it’s weird, and I’m like, yeah, okay. I don’t do thing s like that because I think they’re weird, i do it because I think it’ll help win.

If you still push at it without any reason, just confirms you as scum for choosing not to comprehend it before pushing :shrug: your point is now invalid, so if you continue pushing it, you are essentially OMGUS’ing, and in this case, that’s opportunistic and incredibly scum motivated.

React to this for me, please.

I think your killing logic is fair but everything surrounding it still feels off

Gamma Emerald · Thu Mar 29, 2018 1:22 pm

You know what Flavor I'll back off for now but as I said you're on my radar now.
VOTE: Tchill
Bacj to this

Gamma Emerald · Thu Mar 29, 2018 2:39 pm

In post 2258, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 2257, Gamma Emerald wrote:You know what Flavor I'll back off for now but as I said you're on my radar now.
VOTE: Tchill
Bacj to this
Katherine/myself wasn’t on your radar before?

Why not?

Katherine's play felt towny

Gamma Emerald · Thu Mar 29, 2018 3:32 pm

In post 2263, Mumble wrote:I think I want to lynch Gamma.

Why?

Gamma Emerald · Thu Mar 29, 2018 3:56 pm

Also Mumble did you use your other track shot last night?

Gamma Emerald · Thu Mar 29, 2018 4:03 pm

In post 2272, Mumble wrote:Also, why do you think I used my first during night 1?

You stated as much?

Gamma Emerald · Fri Mar 30, 2018 7:02 am

In post 2292, Flavor Leaf wrote:Anyone who knows Creature, as scum knows it’s generally fine to obvtown Creature because for some reason he can still be mislynched in a blink of an eye

However, look at gamma’s posts on Creature earlier in the game. He semi shades Creature often, but doesn’t fully push. He comments on other people’s pushes/comments on Creature in that fashion.

Excuse me what? Where do I shade Creature ever?

Gamma Emerald · Fri Mar 30, 2018 7:04 am

In post 2300, Flavor Leaf wrote:And even if Gamma is town, I can still see Tchill as town, so that’s my issue with a Ausuka scum. Their play just doesn’t make sense in my head as scum no matter which way I look at it when you look down to agendas.

I love this bullshit fucking excuse. "Oh this whole thing hinges on a Gamma scum read, but even if he's town it doesn't matter I'll still believe these same terrible associatives". He's just trying to BS a mislynch on me.
VOTE: Flavor Leaf

Gamma Emerald · Fri Mar 30, 2018 8:10 am

In post 2305, Kookoobird wrote:Stop. We are doing Tchill and he can pick if we do flavour or asuka tomorrow if he towns.

FL has been more obvscum imo. Do you agree with my reasoning to suspect FL, and if so why do you want to lynch elsewhere?

Gamma Emerald · Fri Mar 30, 2018 8:11 am

In post 2312, Havo wrote:
In post 2303, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2300, Flavor Leaf wrote:And even if Gamma is town, I can still see Tchill as town, so that’s my issue with a Ausuka scum. Their play just doesn’t make sense in my head as scum no matter which way I look at it when you look down to agendas.
I love this bullshit fucking excuse. "Oh this whole thing hinges on a Gamma scum read, but even if he's town it doesn't matter I'll still believe these same terrible associatives". He's just trying to BS a mislynch on me.
VOTE: Flavor Leaf
Here's the real question,

Are you voting him just because he's pushing you? Or do you really think he's scum?

Remove yourself from it.

Not sure about my logic on other things but I would have the exact same commentary on this line of thinking if it was someone else in my place.

Gamma Emerald · Fri Mar 30, 2018 9:40 am

In post 2316, Havo wrote:
In post 2315, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2312, Havo wrote:
In post 2303, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2300, Flavor Leaf wrote:And even if Gamma is town, I can still see Tchill as town, so that’s my issue with a Ausuka scum. Their play just doesn’t make sense in my head as scum no matter which way I look at it when you look down to agendas.
I love this bullshit fucking excuse. "Oh this whole thing hinges on a Gamma scum read, but even if he's town it doesn't matter I'll still believe these same terrible associatives". He's just trying to BS a mislynch on me.
VOTE: Flavor Leaf
Here's the real question,

Are you voting him just because he's pushing you? Or do you really think he's scum?

Remove yourself from it.
Not sure about my logic on other things but I would have the exact same commentary on this line of thinking if it was someone else in my place.
OK, good.

Anything odd happen to you last night?

I don't think so?

Gamma Emerald · Fri Mar 30, 2018 9:48 am

In post 2341, Ausuka wrote:Like, look at what we have d2.
Ausuka, Maria, Tchill are our lynch targets, everything else is pretty much no-go.
Now imagine you're scum. If the scumteam isn't Ausuka and Tchill, which is another matter entirely, this is all you have until you get thrown into the spotlight. And then an oppurtunity pops up to either lynch or throw a permanent shade on an unkillable townread townie. Do you go for it? Yes. Yes you do.

I'm trying to consider that I'm just being dumb and it's Tchill/FL and everyone else is right but I just have a really hard time seeing it.

This is getting my gears turning but I don't know what to make of it

Gamma Emerald · Fri Mar 30, 2018 9:56 am

In post 2387, Tchill13 wrote:Also I'm really glad creature is lock town or that'd be someone else to worry about.

SO you choose to flip your read now? WHY?

Gamma Emerald · Fri Mar 30, 2018 10:12 am

In post 2404, Kookoobird wrote:yknow what no

im not playing on this retarded site anymore

sub out

unvote

What could I have posted in the wrong forum? You're saying I'm mafia and slipped, except there is
no reason I would need to tell mafia I have a Flavour vote typed in
. This isn't LyLo. It is day 3. Fuck you, you trash piece of shit. I can't play games when every time I reload there's another stupid post from another stupid user. I can't. You're awful, everything about you is awful, I don't get how people as bad as you people continue to play this game but I guess why you're on this website.

If you're going to be this toxic, good riddance.

Gamma Emerald · Fri Mar 30, 2018 10:23 am

Like Kookoo your reasoning for saying that makes sense but like, how about you lead with being rational instead of spewing venom all over the thread? Just gonna let you know if you do come back I'm WOTcing and WOTMing you since I have no faith in your ability to be civil.

Gamma Emerald · Fri Mar 30, 2018 10:24 am

btw I don't think scum!Tchill doubles down on Flavor/Ausuka rn, feels like a suicidal move

Gamma Emerald · Fri Mar 30, 2018 10:28 am

In post 2387, Tchill13 wrote:Also I'm really glad creature is lock town or that'd be someone else to worry about.

What even is this post?

Gamma Emerald · Fri Mar 30, 2018 10:44 am

In post 2425, Havo wrote:
In post 2423, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2387, Tchill13 wrote:Also I'm really glad creature is lock town or that'd be someone else to worry about.
What even is this post?
I could be wrong, but I believe that a sarcastic shot.

He's been riled the whole game about Creature being widely TR.

ok then

Gamma Emerald · Fri Mar 30, 2018 10:47 am

In post 2430, Hopkirk wrote:I'm looking at Katherine/Havo/Implosion interactions quickly.

Scumflip on Tchill or Kat clears the other for me btw.

I think this is a fair analysis. Tchill's push on Katherine is pretty ridiculous for a bus. I'll look into Kath/implo/Flavor interactions maybe

Gamma Emerald · Fri Mar 30, 2018 10:48 am

In post 2435, Tchill13 wrote:Yeah it was sarcastic. Gamma can you comment on the game state posts I have made.

which ones

Gamma Emerald · Fri Mar 30, 2018 10:52 am

2428 and ?

Gamma Emerald · Fri Mar 30, 2018 10:59 am

I said what I meant to but it came out a bit flat I guess. I'm looking into their interactions with others. Havo is included but not the only one.

Gamma Emerald · Fri Mar 30, 2018 11:18 am

In post 2422, Tchill13 wrote:So yes it's stupid to say scum didn't bus we simply don't know. They COULD have but I think it's stupid if they did, that doesn't matter though.

I think it's completely logical to say if one scum did bus then one probably contributed to the counter wagon. I have a hard time believing 2 scum bussed.

So out of the players that didn't bus my list is flavor/ausuka/(cedrick/kookoo) in most to least likely scum.

One of them HAVE TO BE SCUM.

Out of those that did bus creature would be my guess.

In post 2428, Tchill13 wrote:
In post 1117, northsidegal wrote:
A lynch has been achieved!

VC 1.FINAL

votes

implosion
(7): Hopkirk, Creature, Gamma Emerald, Havo, Mumble, Killthestory, Luca Blight

Mumble
(1): Cedrick

Luca Blight
(5): Ausuka, MariaR, katherine, Tchill13, implosion

Not Voting
(0):

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch

The day 1 deadline is in
: (expired on 2018-03-22 19:42:59)

Mod Notes
: Cedrick is V/LA until Monday.
Luca Blight is V/LA until Wednesday

Now possible scum bussing in order to most likely to least likely would be

Creature/mumble/havo/gamma/hopkirk

Why is mumble lock town? The claim? He hasn't said specific players he tracked has he? He's lacked detail on his night actions.

Creature has been laughably defended (don't start gamma lol)

Of my lock town I'm most skeptical about havo/gamma

Hopkirk is lock lock town for me. He's a candidate for my tinfoil hat theory that's always wrong. Basically he seen he could pick up my initial push on day 2 to lynch Luca and keep me around for scum to lynch layer. Like I said I believe hopkirk is town though.

I think your logic on whether scum bussed is fine. As for your suspects Your suspect list also looks pretty okay, I'm honestly just going to stop defending Creature because he seems to have given up on the game himself. I won't put him in the scumpool because his prior efforts were okay but I don't like locktowning someone who won't obvtown.

Gamma Emerald · Fri Mar 30, 2018 11:18 am

In post 2446, Hopkirk wrote:@Gamma: what are your thoughts on the following two votecount points:
The 5 votes on Katherine changing to 5 on Implosion
Ausuka staying at 3 votes just short of the tipping point for a long time

quotes pls

Gamma Emerald · Fri Mar 30, 2018 1:48 pm

O_O
It's like if Kain Tepes was obsessed with anime

Gamma Emerald · Fri Mar 30, 2018 2:05 pm

In post 2458, SaskeIsMyYaoiKismesis wrote:
In post 2455, Gamma Emerald wrote:O_O
It's like if Kain Tepes was obsessed with anime
WHOM is this "Kain Tepes"? Sorey im new here i dont really know most of your jokes yet........ ( ⚆ _ ⚆ )

Dude who is very distinct in his posting style in that he uses a lot of caps

Gamma Emerald · Fri Mar 30, 2018 2:07 pm

I'll collect my thoughts on TChill for you but in the current gamestate I think he's probably not mafia. I'd suggest you read through day 2 and form some opinions from that stuff.

Gamma Emerald · Fri Mar 30, 2018 3:46 pm

WHy are you thinking Flavor is town?

Gamma Emerald · Fri Mar 30, 2018 4:16 pm

I think you're missing the point of some of Ausuka's posts
All possible scumteams meant they're all possible in that post

Gamma Emerald · Sat Mar 31, 2018 2:46 am

In post 2512, SaskeIsMyYaoiKismesis wrote:
In post 2420, Gamma Emerald wrote:btw I don't think scum!Tchill doubles down on Flavor/Ausuka rn, feels like a suicidal move
gamma is this what you were tlaking about earlier? i would assume that CAUGHT SCUM would want to act more desperately [ ± _ ± ]

Yeah, so if he were caught scum wouldn't he want to push other options?

Gamma Emerald · Sat Mar 31, 2018 3:06 am

In post 2527, Ausuka wrote:
In post 2506, SaskeIsMyYaoiKismesis wrote:well EITHER WAY she thinks the teams are FL/Havo, FL/Tchill, Havo/{Gamma, COokoo, Tchill} so her PROSEPCTIVE is that HAVO has the most scum equity here
No you guys are taking my posts wildly out of context. They're not the only possible scumteams here, that's not what I was saying at all. Tchill first asked why I wasn't considering FL with tchill himself or with someone who was on Implo d1, and I responded by saying I had openly discussed the possibility of FL/Tchill and FL/Havo. Then Tchill said I shouldn't be voting Havo because he was in only 1 scumteam. I responded by giving 3 other very possible scumteams with Havo in them.

If I have to make a ranking:

Tchill/Havo
Havo/Gamma
Havo/Creature
Tchill/Gamma

Havo/FL
Tchill/FL
Gamma/Creature
Gamma/FL

Creature/FL
Havo/Mumble
Gamma/Mumble
Creature/Mumble
Tchill/Mumble
Mumble/FL

Havo/Hopkirk
Tchill/Hopkirk
Gamma/Hopkirk
Creature/Hopkirk
Hopkirk/FL
Havo/Simyk
Gamma/Simyk
Simyk/Creature
Simyk/FL
Simyk/Mumble

Tchill/Creature
Hopkirk/Mumble
Simyk/Hopkirk
Tchill/Simyk

I think there's probably a few weird rankings but why isn't Me/Creature higher if we're both possibly suspects enough to have high-ranking pairing?

Gamma Emerald · Sat Mar 31, 2018 3:22 am

In post 2536, Ausuka wrote:I think tchill is a good lynch for today but I don't want to do it yet.

Think of the
information
we could get by wagoning Creature!

This is 100% certifiably stupid

Gamma Emerald · Sat Mar 31, 2018 3:55 am

Wagoning/lynching Creature is not an information play ever

Gamma Emerald · Sat Mar 31, 2018 3:58 am

In post 2558, Ausuka wrote:
In post 2557, Gamma Emerald wrote:Wagoning Creature is not an information play ever
You're just jealous you didn't come up with the idea first.

VOTE: Ausuka

Gamma Emerald · Sat Mar 31, 2018 4:09 am

In post 2562, Hopkirk wrote:But Creature's town.

In post 2448, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2446, Hopkirk wrote:@Gamma: what are your thoughts on the following two votecount points:
The 5 votes on Katherine changing to 5 on Implosion
Ausuka staying at 3 votes just short of the tipping point for a long time
quotes pls
Haven't you already done VCA?

@Gamma: thoughts on Havo/Tchill?

I'd like you to quote them because I'm not sure which ones you refer to off the top of my head. I haven't really done VCA recently

Gamma Emerald · Sat Mar 31, 2018 4:14 am

btw I think Havo Tchill kinda feels a bit weird, like why does Havo swing around so late on the Luca lynch if that's the plan, plus I feel like Teech is town still

anyway I'm gonna post this here, this is the main process for sorting Creature for all you nubs
Is Creature Active?
Is Creature doing his usual stream of consciousness posting?
Is Creature confident in his towniness?
Is Creature taking the easy outs on his reads (IE Obvtown town, lynchbaits consensus scum)?

I'm gonna go through this, and the main upshot is if the answers to the first 3 are yes and the last one no, then he's town, and the further he digresses from these answers the more likely it is he is scum
I can already say the answer for question 3 is yes, and can link the post if needed

Gamma Emerald · Sat Mar 31, 2018 4:14 am

In post 2567, Hopkirk wrote:350-400 goes from 5 on Implosion and 1 on Kat to 5 on Kat and 1 on Implosion.
625-950- 3 votes sit on Ausuka without the wagon growing any more.

ok then, will read those
I recall saying the first thing was weird as it happened

Gamma Emerald · Sat Mar 31, 2018 4:30 am

Hop you reversed things

In post 350, northsidegal wrote:
VC 1.05

votes

implosion
(1): Creature

katherine
(5): MariaR, implosion, Tchill13, Luca Blight, Mumble

MariaR
(2): katherine, brassherald

killthestory
(2): Cedrick, Havo

Mumble
(1): Killthestory

Not Voting
(2): Ausuka, Gamma Emerald

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch

The day 1 deadline is in
: (expired on 2018-03-22 19:42:59)

Mod Notes
:

In post 400, northsidegal wrote:
VC 1.06

votes

implosion
(5): Creature, MariaR, Havo, Mumble, Tchill13

katherine
(1): Luca Blight

MariaR
(1): brassherald

killthestory
(2): Cedrick, implosion

Mumble
(2): Ausuka, Killthestory

Ausuka
(1): katherine

Not Voting
(1): Gamma Emerald

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch

The day 1 deadline is in
: (expired on 2018-03-22 19:42:59)

Mod Notes
:

So I did a meta check and determined Creature does not bus. As such I'm taking him parking on implo for so long to be townclearing in addition what I intend to present for him later. In addition I'm thinking Havo/TChill is a pretty dum-dum team since both of them jumped onto implosion, which was a pretty bad choice for a bus imo. In addition the Implosion and Kath wagons look pretty pure imo, since there's more townflips and townreads there than suspects and scumflips. So yeah this one doesn't really change much.

Gamma Emerald · Sat Mar 31, 2018 5:28 am

In post 2573, Ausuka wrote:
In post 2572, Gamma Emerald wrote: So I did a meta check and determined Creature does not bus.
viewtopic.php?p=9409381#p9409381
viewtopic.php?p=9413200#p9413200
viewtopic.php?p=9447396#p9447396
viewtopic.php?p=9456708#p9456708
viewtopic.php?p=9466300#p946630
viewtopic.php?p=9541406#p9541406

All from my two scumgames with him.

You're wrong and possibly scum.

My sample size is greater, fak off with your "anyone who disagrees is scum" bs

Gamma Emerald · Sat Mar 31, 2018 6:08 am

Hopkirk don't ignore my post doing what you asked for

Gamma Emerald · Sat Mar 31, 2018 6:39 am

In post 2578, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2573, Ausuka wrote:
In post 2572, Gamma Emerald wrote: So I did a meta check and determined Creature does not bus.
viewtopic.php?p=9409381#p9409381
viewtopic.php?p=9413200#p9413200
viewtopic.php?p=9447396#p9447396
viewtopic.php?p=9456708#p9456708
viewtopic.php?p=9466300#p946630
viewtopic.php?p=9541406#p9541406

All from my two scumgames with him.

You're wrong and possibly scum.
My sample size is greater, fak off with your "anyone who disagrees is scum" bs

I checked clash of the gods and those weren't hard busses
There was a push that was dropped before the wagon hit critical mass, a rnadom vote and drop, and a last-ditch distancing vote.

Gamma Emerald · Sat Mar 31, 2018 6:42 am

In post 2592, Ausuka wrote:
In post 2578, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2573, Ausuka wrote:
In post 2572, Gamma Emerald wrote: So I did a meta check and determined Creature does not bus.
viewtopic.php?p=9409381#p9409381
viewtopic.php?p=9413200#p9413200
viewtopic.php?p=9447396#p9447396
viewtopic.php?p=9456708#p9456708
viewtopic.php?p=9466300#p946630
viewtopic.php?p=9541406#p9541406

All from my two scumgames with him.

You're wrong and possibly scum.
My sample size is greater
That doesn't matter because you were saying that Creature doesn't bus. Even one or two links is enough to prove that this isn't true; Creature is willing to bus if he thinks it's optimal, just like most people. I don't understand why most people in this game think busses are such a rare thing.
In post 2578, Gamma Emerald wrote: fak off with your "anyone who disagrees is scum" bs
This is uncalled for.

Let me restate: Creature doesn't

hard

bus. And I don't get how me calling out you for calling me scum for disagreeing is "uncalled for". Nice to know that's how you respond to pressure though.
I'd initially voted Ausuka as a joke but now I'm dead serious, let's lynch this

Gamma Emerald · Sat Mar 31, 2018 6:45 am

In post 2594, Tchill13 wrote:I'M NOT THIS TERRIBLE AS SCUM. Geez. I'm town that doesn't try day 1 because we never lynch scum day 1 and now that we did I'm in New territory. This is literally the most "obv" scum I've been since March 17, 2017.

If you think it's ausuka and me and you have more evidence for ausuka vote ausuka. I ask that we lynch ausuka or flavor today. That's it. I don't care which one.

In post 2595, Havo wrote:
In post 2591, SaskeIsMyYaoiKismesis wrote:Have why do you evne scumread flavor i think he cod be scum but Tchill is SO obvious like GOG (((( ;°Д°))))

pedit: well YEAH i think you and ausuka are both scum and everyone else is town it MAKES THE MOST SENSE (ಠ益ಠ)
I think Flavor is scum Mainly from a POE view. I think Tchill is town based on my ability to read him.
I think it’s Flavor and Ausuka. I’m good with lynching either of those today.

Like what I'm seeing here is a lot of Tchill/Ausuka and Flavor/Ausuka. Therefore it's best to lynch Ausuka to either get a consensus lynch on scum or if Ausuka flips town we all can re-analyse from there.

Gamma Emerald · Sat Mar 31, 2018 6:47 am

In post 447, Creature wrote:VOTE: Ausuka

Only time Creature voted off of implosion here. I'm gonna check the context now, this could determine things wrt Creature

Gamma Emerald · Sat Mar 31, 2018 6:52 am

In post 2622, Ausuka wrote:
In post 2616, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2594, Tchill13 wrote:I'M NOT THIS TERRIBLE AS SCUM. Geez. I'm town that doesn't try day 1 because we never lynch scum day 1 and now that we did I'm in New territory. This is literally the most "obv" scum I've been since March 17, 2017.

If you think it's ausuka and me and you have more evidence for ausuka vote ausuka. I ask that we lynch ausuka or flavor today. That's it. I don't care which one.

In post 2595, Havo wrote:
In post 2591, SaskeIsMyYaoiKismesis wrote:Have why do you evne scumread flavor i think he cod be scum but Tchill is SO obvious like GOG (((( ;°Д°))))

pedit: well YEAH i think you and ausuka are both scum and everyone else is town it MAKES THE MOST SENSE (ಠ益ಠ)
I think Flavor is scum Mainly from a POE view. I think Tchill is town based on my ability to read him.
I think it’s Flavor and Ausuka. I’m good with lynching either of those today.
Like what I'm seeing here is a lot of Tchill/Ausuka and Flavor/Ausuka. Therefore it's best to lynch Ausuka to either get a consensus lynch on scum or if Ausuka flips town we all can re-analyse from there.
yeah and by that you mean when Ausuka flips town we can continue wagoning townies within hours while nothing changes.

Nope. Begone with your misreps, I ain't having that shit

Gamma Emerald · Sat Mar 31, 2018 7:01 am

In post 2641, Ausuka wrote:
In post 2634, Tchill13 wrote:2 scum.... Bussed the strong pr.... When Luca was that close to being lynched...

This is what I meant when I said Luca flipping gives us great information. We know a town wagon was closed to being lynched. You're telling me that instead of lynching town TWO SCUM BUSSED IMPLOSION WHEN THEY DIDNT THE HAVE TO?

What a joke.
Yes that's exactly what I'm telling you! Bussing is always a choice. If people think they can take the towncred they go for it. Implo was never lasting until endgame anyway. He was clearly not really engaged with the game all that much.

Imagine this:
Implo: ugh. I can't get into this game and I look really scummy. hey guys, can you bus me for the towncred please?
Gamma: sure, sounds good to me
Havo: Lol ok yeah.

Like what makes that so unlikely? Or so many other scenarios?

LOL I'm goignt o take this as your locked stance, and I'm completely ready to bust this myth

Gamma Emerald · Sat Mar 31, 2018 7:02 am

Creature reads?

Gamma Emerald · Sat Mar 31, 2018 7:07 am

In post 2654, Ausuka wrote:Imagine this:
Implo: ugh. I can't get into this game and I look really scummy. hey guys, can you bus me for the towncred please?
Gamma: sure, sounds good to me
Havo: Lol ok yeah.

When are you saying this happened again?

Gamma Emerald · Sat Mar 31, 2018 7:11 am

In post 2664, Ausuka wrote:
In post 2662, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2654, Ausuka wrote:Imagine this:
Implo: ugh. I can't get into this game and I look really scummy. hey guys, can you bus me for the towncred please?
Gamma: sure, sounds good to me
Havo: Lol ok yeah.
When are you saying this happened again?
some point d1

I'm not going to be satisfied unless you give a concrete answer. Depending where you say it was you might get a slight reprieve. Or you could get fucked up. As I said, depnds on where you say it is.

Gamma Emerald · Sat Mar 31, 2018 7:14 am

Then I'm not unvoting you. I'm not letting you get away with hedged reads

buddy

.
Also "not locking in reads" "team is Gamma+Havo" GTFOH

Gamma Emerald · Sat Mar 31, 2018 7:15 am

dw he just confessed

Gamma Emerald · Sat Mar 31, 2018 7:18 am

And I'll state this, it's something I've said many times, and it's very likely some of them are in completed games at this point so you can go and look and see this is consistent.
I am more conservative with my bussing these days. A large turbo taught me for a second time not to willy-nilly bus. As such I prefer not to bus unless there's a reason to, and bussing my strongman over a town lynch? Probably not something I'd do.

Gamma Emerald · Sat Mar 31, 2018 7:20 am

In post 2678, Ausuka wrote:
In post 2675, Tchill13 wrote:
In post 2670, Ausuka wrote:
In post 2667, Tchill13 wrote: "Oh two scum bussed blah blah" PROVE THEY DID. TELL ME WHO'S SCUM ON IMPLOSION.
Easy. Havo/Gamma/Creature. This should have been evident from my reads, which are still consistent to the readspost I posted.
Who are you voting rn?
Tchill13. And I think you're scum with one or Havo or Gamma, but it's possible it's Havo/Gamma also (and I definitely don't want to assume it's not Havo/Gamma) and it's possible for any of you to be scum with Simyk.

Gamma is saying my reads are hedged. That's blatantly false. I have reads. What I don't want is to lock my reads midway through d3 in and make them last until endgame.

That's not what I'm asking. I'm asking for stances so you can't slink away with "I now have xyz stance". Who's scum if none of me/Havo/Creature is? What about only one of us?

Gamma Emerald · Sat Mar 31, 2018 7:21 am

In post 2683, Ausuka wrote:
In post 2681, Tchill13 wrote:
In post 2678, Ausuka wrote:
In post 2675, Tchill13 wrote:
In post 2670, Ausuka wrote:
In post 2667, Tchill13 wrote: "Oh two scum bussed blah blah" PROVE THEY DID. TELL ME WHO'S SCUM ON IMPLOSION.
Easy. Havo/Gamma/Creature. This should have been evident from my reads, which are still consistent to the readspost I posted.
Who are you voting rn?
Tchill13. And I think you're scum with one or Havo or Gamma, but it's possible it's Havo/Gamma also (and I definitely don't want to assume it's not Havo/Gamma) and it's possible for any of you to be scum with Simyk.

Gamma is saying my reads are hedged. That's blatantly false. I have reads. What I don't want is to lock my reads midway through d3 in and make them last until endgame.
SO YOU'RE OK RISKING THE GAME LYNCHING THROUGH THE LUCA WAGON TO CATCH SCUM?
Where did I say that?
You're really angry for someone who thinks they're talking to scum.

The second line is not a scumtell ever

Gamma Emerald · Sat Mar 31, 2018 7:32 am

In post 2695, Ausuka wrote:That being said, if I get lynched, nobody will care about any "deals" they made with me, or anything I said.

That's cos you'll flip scum

Gamma Emerald · Sat Mar 31, 2018 8:35 am

In post 2712, Flavor Leaf wrote:I don’t understand the logic, but I’m skim reading right now.

Who are you pushin, Chill? You keep bringing up the Implosion/Luca wagons, and going from there, but you’re pushing me, and my slot wasn’t on either of the lynch wagons.

I might have missed something. On BART.

We're actually converging on Ausuka tyvl

Gamma Emerald · Sat Mar 31, 2018 8:42 am

which one

Gamma Emerald · Sat Mar 31, 2018 8:47 am

Oh man I'm coming across some rich stuff in the mini normal Ausuka linked where Creature "bussed". Will get the full breakdown when I finish reading mod+creature ISO from that game

Gamma Emerald · Sat Mar 31, 2018 8:52 am

Here's the breakdown
>votes formerfish, but removes vote when wagon reaches critical mass, plus executes the scum tactic of "drop pressure on the buddy when they replace out".
> Votes Gratiae: vanity vote essentially
> Votes Gratiae again d3, this time in response to wagon on him. This is basically the same as his last schadd vote in the other game ausuka linked
Yeah those are some pretty shoddy samples deary

Gamma Emerald · Sat Mar 31, 2018 9:06 am

Luca wagon d1 or d2? d2 is a hard pass, d1 I'm inclined to say yes

Gamma Emerald · Sat Mar 31, 2018 9:22 am

Hopkirk I analysed the wagons where it went from five and one with kath leading to five and one implo leaing and I feel like I gave more commentary than you have addressed and you really should address the whole thing

Gamma Emerald · Sat Mar 31, 2018 9:44 am

In post 2732, Hopkirk wrote:VOTE: Flavour

I don't think you've claimed yet, right?

Did Tchill/Ausuka both claim VT? If not it might be worth the entire group of 3 claiming since they're nightkill immune right now.

Hell no. Don't rolefish.

Gamma Emerald · Sat Mar 31, 2018 9:50 am

Flavor yes, forgot TChill claimed, but like in the fringe case Ausuka is a town PR I don't want him outed just because you gave the suggestion offhand

Gamma Emerald · Sun Apr 01, 2018 4:25 am

In post 2743, Ausuka wrote:
In post 2733, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2732, Hopkirk wrote:VOTE: Flavour

I don't think you've claimed yet, right?

Did Tchill/Ausuka both claim VT? If not it might be worth the entire group of 3 claiming since they're nightkill immune right now.
Hell no. Don't rolefish.
I don't know if I should claim or not but Hopkirk telling me to is definitely not scummy.

Did I say it was? I just said don't rolefish.

Gamma Emerald · Sun Apr 01, 2018 4:30 am

In post 2760, Ausuka wrote:Also Luca claimed like 2 posts before the hammer. Scum couldn't do anything at that point. 1-shot strongman is a weak PR, basically a goon.

What?
In all but one case (the creature game you linked, mini 1925) strongman has always pointed towards a protective. so yeah I'd think sum would want to keep their strongman alive.

Gamma Emerald · Sun Apr 01, 2018 4:32 am

In post 2765, Ausuka wrote:But like I hard-believe that scum would definitely both hop on implo if they really do think implo was going down. Like, once one scum hops on implo that's like a signal saying "Hey this guy's going down so let's bus him for the towncred."

OK cool
who do you think did this?

Gamma Emerald · Sun Apr 01, 2018 4:36 am

In post 2772, Flavor Leaf wrote:Wait, wtf’s going on?

I’m a two shot vig. Get off of me. I killed Maria. Katherine didn’t kill Night 1

alright, what do you say to being directed tonight? For who would direct you I have no clue, I'm trying to think of someone who is obvtown and can clearly present targets and why, but like the best I can think of is YaoiKismesis who Idk if they can communicate a list of targets very well.

Gamma Emerald · Sun Apr 01, 2018 4:39 am

In post 2798, Creature wrote:Okay

Gamma + Mumble scumteam then

What
This team makes little sense imo. you think we both just decided to waltz onto the Luca wagon d2?

Gamma Emerald · Sun Apr 01, 2018 4:40 am

In post 2805, Ausuka wrote:
In post 2802, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2760, Ausuka wrote:Also Luca claimed like 2 posts before the hammer. Scum couldn't do anything at that point. 1-shot strongman is a weak PR, basically a goon.
What?
In all but one case (the creature game you linked, mini 1925) strongman has always pointed towards a protective. so yeah I'd think sum would want to keep their strongman alive.
It's better than goon I guess but one kill that bypasses protectives is a really weak PR imo.

No? If we hadn't lynched it D1 it's very possible it could have been used on mumble.

In post 2806, Ausuka wrote:
In post 2803, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2765, Ausuka wrote:But like I hard-believe that scum would definitely both hop on implo if they really do think implo was going down. Like, once one scum hops on implo that's like a signal saying "Hey this guy's going down so let's bus him for the towncred."
OK cool
who do you think did this?
Havo and you.

Check wagon placement, then get back to me.

Gamma Emerald · Sun Apr 01, 2018 4:44 am

And do you not see anything at alllll wrong with your theory?

Gamma Emerald · Sun Apr 01, 2018 5:18 am

In post 1117, northsidegal wrote:implosion (7): Hopkirk, Creature, Gamma Emerald, Havo, Mumble, Killthestory, Luca Blight

idk man I totally think me and Havo could have hopped on Implosion at the end thinking "oh he's probably gonna get lynched let's bus"

Gamma Emerald · Sun Apr 01, 2018 5:54 am

You kinda implied that with how you were arguing things. Wouldn't scum, if they thought it was a lost cause, be on the tail end?

Gamma Emerald · Sun Apr 01, 2018 7:02 am

Excuse me is Havo CCing?

Gamma Emerald · Sun Apr 01, 2018 8:14 am

In post 2860, Creature wrote:Though idk who else to scumread other than Gamma Emerald.

Are you just paranoia SRing me or what?

Gamma Emerald · Sun Apr 01, 2018 10:19 am

In post 2875, Hopkirk wrote:Tchill/Havo might be back up there for me actually.

You see you've never commented once on the VCA I did and it's making me distrust you because I state why I think it disproves a Havo/Tchill scumteam and at this point it feels like you're dodging it to keep pushing your mislynches.

Gamma Emerald · Sun Apr 01, 2018 10:44 am

In post 2731, Hopkirk wrote:Rereading again though, Havo is more likely town than (Tchill/Ausuka/Flavour)

what happened to this btw

Gamma Emerald · Sun Apr 01, 2018 10:50 am

In post 2572, Gamma Emerald wrote:So I did a meta check and determined Creature does not bus. As such I'm taking him parking on implo for so long to be townclearing in addition what I intend to present for him later. In addition I'm thinking Havo/TChill is a pretty dum-dum team since both of them jumped onto implosion, which was a pretty bad choice for a bus imo. In addition the Implosion and Kath wagons look pretty pure imo, since there's more townflips and townreads there than suspects and scumflips. So yeah this one doesn't really change much.

Summary:
Creature town by the virtue of him not hardbussing
Havo/TChill wouldn't bus this early imo so probably not a scumteam
thinking the two wagons referred to there had very little scum on them

Gamma Emerald · Sun Apr 01, 2018 7:54 pm

In post 2894, Ausuka wrote:Creature town MVP for sure

excuse me what

Gamma Emerald · Sun Apr 01, 2018 8:08 pm

Yeah don't think I don't see what you're doing Ausuka.
VOTE: Ausuka
This is scum.

Gamma Emerald · Mon Apr 02, 2018 8:28 am

jsyk mumble is vla until the end of today

Gamma Emerald · Mon Apr 02, 2018 12:51 pm

VC please

Gamma Emerald · Mon Apr 02, 2018 3:07 pm

Huh, deadline isn't nearly as close as I thought

Gamma Emerald · Mon Apr 02, 2018 5:26 pm

More like with the volume level it's felt like we've been here longer than we have

Gamma Emerald · Mon Apr 02, 2018 5:41 pm

Can someone tell me if the post density actually dropped here?

Gamma Emerald · Tue Apr 03, 2018 6:46 am

I will townread whoever hammers

Gamma Emerald · Tue Apr 03, 2018 7:31 am

yes
now hammer

Gamma Emerald · Tue Apr 03, 2018 9:23 am

btw Mumble if Ausuka flips scum and you have a shot left you should 100% be tracking someone

Gamma Emerald · Tue Apr 03, 2018 9:24 am

In post 2927, Flavor Leaf wrote:Can i just shoot scum in Havo?

Hell to the no. You shoot where you're told.

Gamma Emerald · Tue Apr 03, 2018 9:29 am

Yeah and guess what? Y'all are the biggest suspects for town. If scum want to eliminate the main source of their safety that's on them

Gamma Emerald · Tue Apr 03, 2018 9:30 am

In post 2929, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 2928, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2927, Flavor Leaf wrote:Can i just shoot scum in Havo?
Hell to the no. You shoot where you're told.
Well, of course you would think that.

Scum get Ausuka, me, and Tchill dead that way.

responding to this

Gamma Emerald · Tue Apr 03, 2018 9:31 am

And that's why I said that cos I knew you'd try to twist my words

Gamma Emerald · Tue Apr 03, 2018 9:34 am

In post 2937, Flavor Leaf wrote:Saske slot. They seem mislynchable.

wat
that whole slot has been solidly townread what are you getting on about?

Gamma Emerald · Thu Apr 05, 2018 1:33 pm

In post 2953, Flavor Leaf wrote:I didn’t shoot, by the way.

yawn
you expect me to believe scum that wasn't you thought Tchill was a good kill? He was lynchbait full stop.

Gamma Emerald · Thu Apr 05, 2018 2:24 pm

In post 2964, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 2962, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2953, Flavor Leaf wrote:I didn’t shoot, by the way.
yawn
you expect me to believe scum that wasn't you thought Tchill was a good kill? He was lynchbait full stop.
Why need the lynch bait when I’m alive?

Tchill wasn’t lynchbait. I was fighting his lynch.

I faught the Ausuka lynch too.

I’ve literally been off of both of town wagons.

Scum is in the people pushing me.

My reads for if I flip, Havo is probably town, Gamma is scum. I feel like Gamma probably got protected last night rather than a roleblocker in this situation. I can’t see a full roleblocker working with two 2 shots and a commuter.

Scum was definitely on the Ausuka wagon.

TChill was definitely lynchbait, everyone was focused down on him. Your reads are not the consensus.

Gamma Emerald · Thu Apr 05, 2018 2:39 pm

In post 3000, SaskeIsMyYaoiKismesis wrote:Not shooting N1 is BAD PLAY

I disagree and for a newb vig I'd think it's totally fair to not shoot n1
but the convenience of the claim is still susp af

Gamma Emerald · Thu Apr 05, 2018 2:46 pm

In post 3004, SaskeIsMyYaoiKismesis wrote:
In post 3003, Mumble wrote:Did you look at the katherine slot at all? Last post was days before D1 end and was replaced immediately after D2 start.
wouldnt the mod replace katherine BEFORE the night ends then?

i feel like that confirms that either katernine holstered deliberately OR MORE SIMPLY that flavor leaf is scum....

Idk is it really the mods obligation to ensure everyone either uses or makes the conscious choice not to use their power?

Gamma Emerald · Thu Apr 05, 2018 2:49 pm

In post 3010, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 3008, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 3004, SaskeIsMyYaoiKismesis wrote:
In post 3003, Mumble wrote:Did you look at the katherine slot at all? Last post was days before D1 end and was replaced immediately after D2 start.
wouldnt the mod replace katherine BEFORE the night ends then?

i feel like that confirms that either katernine holstered deliberately OR MORE SIMPLY that flavor leaf is scum....
Idk is it really the mods obligation to ensure everyone either uses or makes the conscious choice not to use their power?
No. It’s not the mod’s job to make sure the players remember. Mods can choose to send a message reminding them if they want, but this is also NSG’s first game, I believe.

Technically mods don’t even have to have vote counts if they don’t want to.

NSG's second game
I joined because I knew her last game had a cool setup and I wanted in on the action

Gamma Emerald · Thu Apr 05, 2018 2:53 pm

I don't intend to claim unless Mumble says so
PEdit: that's a definite no then.

Gamma Emerald · Thu Apr 05, 2018 2:56 pm

In post 3022, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 3020, Gamma Emerald wrote:I don't intend to claim unless Mumble says so
PEdit: that's a definite no then.
@Gamma - if you saw that I was 100% town, who would be scum for you.

I prefer not to answer but I do have at least one person in mind.

Gamma Emerald · Thu Apr 05, 2018 2:57 pm

viewtopic.php?f=53&t=69456
doctor and os commuter, it's a legit possibility
what's funny is I was vig and shot both of those roles in that game

Gamma Emerald · Thu Apr 05, 2018 3:00 pm

In post 3029, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 3025, Creature wrote:Doctor + Commuter?

lol
There’s a strongman, dude. Strongman is literally pointless without some sort of protective.

@Gamma - if you’re town, creature’s scum.

Why? I mean I'm open to the possibility because I feel like his push on me+Mumble was janky af but besides that what makes you say that?

Gamma Emerald · Thu Apr 05, 2018 3:02 pm

In post 3030, SaskeIsMyYaoiKismesis wrote:
In post 3029, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 3025, Creature wrote:Doctor + Commuter?

lol
There’s a strongman, dude. Strongman is literally pointless without some sort of protective.

@Gamma - if you’re town, creature’s scum.
uhm OKAY SO

i thought creature had a meta that everyone knew and that he HAD to be town this game? even ausuka said this and shes town so i trust her on this?

you going against the concensus basically confirms you as scum.... (￣^￣)

Um noooo Creature has kinda been playing a bit more scummy here in recent days
I will state there's still the hang-up of his bus vote which I'll have to look into

Gamma Emerald · Thu Apr 05, 2018 5:11 pm

don't see how my play is semi defending but you do you man

Gamma Emerald · Fri Apr 06, 2018 2:54 pm

In post 3062, Creature wrote:Looks like someone needs a diaper change...

what?

Gamma Emerald · Fri Apr 06, 2018 2:55 pm

so we had 3 failed actions last night...

Gamma Emerald · Sat Apr 07, 2018 8:10 am

I wanted to see what take Havo would have on Creature's claim before claiming. I'm the town doctor (no restrictions) and I targeted Mumble on all three nights. If you were paying attention you'll note I never denied Flavor's claim that I had the attitude of "it doesn't matter that you suspect me if you can't lynch me". That's because upon implosion's flip I had a boost of confidence because I was the role he was built to counter.
What I'm trying to think through is some of the action blockings and what they should be indicating. I'm 95% sure all this is pointing to Flavor as the odd one out because it seems like both times now his shot is the only one for some strange reason. Especially night 2's kill. I was initially skeptical but accepting given I could buy scum trying to shoot mumble hoping doc would be on someone else but since I was blocked that night there's no explanation at this point.

Gamma Emerald · Sat Apr 07, 2018 1:09 pm

In post 3109, Creature wrote:Watcher + Doctor looks powerful

it is, and it's likely why mafia had a strongman

Gamma Emerald · Sat Apr 07, 2018 1:14 pm

why would mafia have one shot strongman to counter only rb
seems a bit much my dude

Gamma Emerald · Sun Apr 08, 2018 3:20 pm

if flavor flips scum actions should be me on creature havo on me creature on vt claim/mumble

Gamma Emerald · Sun Apr 08, 2018 3:21 pm

actually just have creature on mumble if flavor flips scum what am I saying

Gamma Emerald · Tue Apr 10, 2018 4:51 pm

confirming I targeted Creature

Gamma Emerald · Wed Apr 11, 2018 8:43 am

In post 3150, Hopkirk wrote:Oh wait, couldn't FL have used the ninja shot to give mumble's tracking that no reault.

ninja doesn't give a no result it just does not show up to tracker/watcher

Gamma Emerald · Wed Apr 11, 2018 8:50 am

anyway plan is for me to go onto havo tonight right

Gamma Emerald · Wed Apr 11, 2018 11:33 am

Eddie bro I checked Creature's meta and he likes to vote his buddies but he never lets his bussing come to fruition
Creature don't actually bus

Gamma Emerald · Wed Apr 11, 2018 11:53 am

Shout-outs:
Tchill: bro you actuallynailed 2/3 d1 (mumble and kath). Sorry for not listening man. btw the reason why you were a constant suspicion for me was because of you saying "we have a few wise guys here". It just felt very off that you ever had that sort of reaction in Team Mafia and yet a little pressure and you're bitching about people being high and mighty or whatever.
Havo: You played your role well I feel. I feel like your watch targets were decent. I hope this game shows you people can be on-point day 1. btw full honestly I hedged my day 1 reads from implo/teech/ausuka to implo/teech/mumble because I wanted to be right on at least one, and I figured if the first 2 were wrong mumble would probably be scum. Turns out I hedged my reads to be more accurate.
YaoiKismesis: First off I haven't said this yet but your name is fantastic. Second I feel like you were probably what your slot needed. A powerful, respectful, and unwavering voice. Good job.
implosion: sorry you had to get lynched like that. I never really knew why I suspected you I just ran with it. Sometimes gut reads work I guess.
Ausuka: sorry bro you were right about mumble but other than that you suspected all of the town PRs. You might wanna get that checked. Mathdino also hasthe issue of suspecting town PRs super-often.
KTS: nice job baiting nk I guess? You were kinda abrasive and like honestly it might have been a bad idea for scum to kill you cos I could have seen you making town go fucking mad with your attitude.
Maria: nice to know we still got it! I'm so glad we finally had a game where we were able to lock each other as town. I don't remember the last time we did that without you not actually having 100% faith in the read on me.
Creature: Nce job not giving up on the game, were you trying to lurk to keep yourself alive? If so good call you had plenty of people on your ass but weren't high priority enough to get lynched.
Flavor: bro you gotta know when to quit. There are times when I can find scum based on how they treat me, this was one of those times.
Mumble: good job on that fakeclaim but like I was kinda thinking your role was a bit weird with Havo's being around. Funny that both scum who claimed tried the same hedge tactic of claiming two-shot.
Luca: sorry for lynching you, honestly I just sorta gave up because everyone was shouting so loud for your head.

Gamma Emerald · Wed Apr 11, 2018 12:50 pm