Fallout Mafia - Commonwealth Edition (Day 8)
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Ouroboros Goon
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Okay. If your information isn't related to his alignment then I'll stick with my vote. Sorry.-
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Ouroboros Goon
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Would a case help?
In this case most of the impetus of the vote is actually my hydra partner so she should probably take the lead on that, but it's something we can do.-
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Kaede Akamatsu Mafia Scum
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Kaede Akamatsu Mafia Scum
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If you're wondering why,
Over the games i've had with Kokichi I've noticed that he's usually scumread for things related to his play style or role play. It's even gone as far as being used by scum to strongarm a lynch through on the slot on the one time we hydra'd together: viewtopic.php?p=9997201#p9997201
It is, very hard for me to take any sort of scum case on Kokichi seriously because it is often based off ppl that dont agree with the way he plays.
Hence I have grown wary of ever trusting anyone's read on him, specially scumreads.
By this, I don't think any sort of case you could come up with would do something to me. And he's a friend of mine that replaced into this game just to play with me again since we haven't played in months, as long as I townread the slot, I'm gonna be like this, and if you lynch him and he flips town, then you dont even wanna know what a spiteful Kaede is capable of.Back to my old main for now
/quit indefinitely-
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Ouroboros Goon
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I don't have a great deal of trust for virtually anyone's reads in a situation like this where I think it would be very easy for Kokichi to pocket you.
I am far more worried about Kokichi reaching endgame as scum than I am about Wraith reaching endgame as scum and as a result I'm not super enthusiastic about lynching Wraith first.
You also have basically 0 chance of coercing me by threatening me with 'consequences'. Regardless of your feelings towards me I like you and you'd get a lot more mileage out of talking to me differently.
I would like to posit that I am generally one of the best players at reading different playstyles and I don't usually find Kokichi naturally scummy. I'm more scumreading 'cause of his predecessor anyway?If you're wondering why,
Over the games i've had with Kokichi I've noticed that he's usually scumread for things related to his play style or role play. It's even gone as far as being used by scum to strongarm a lynch through on the slot on the one time we hydra'd together: viewtopic.php?p=9997201#p9997201
It is, very hard for me to take any sort of scum case on Kokichi seriously because it is often based off ppl that dont agree with the way he plays.
Hence I have grown wary of ever trusting anyone's read on him, specially scumreads.
By this, I don't think any sort of case you could come up with would do something to me. And he's a friend of mine that replaced into this game just to play with me again since we haven't played in months, as long as I townread the slot, I'm gonna be like this, and if you lynch him and he flips town, then you dont even wanna know what a spiteful Kaede is capable of.
Like I have my own people who I systematically misread but I'm not typically someone who falls for lynchbait.-
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Ouroboros Goon
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Like (and you shouldn't take this personally in this game because there's clearly better kill targets with the amount of PRs floating around) you are going to live to endgame this game I am fairly certain.
If kokichi is scum that means all he had to do to win the game is pocket you which is something that I believe his style of play excels at more than convincing broader groups that he's town.
I'm more concerned about him making endgame than virtually any other potential scum reaching endgame and that's a problem. If we can as a group agree to write a large chunk of people out of the PoE and lynch Kokichi somewhere later down the line then you have mileage convincing me to go for easier scum flips while I'm still alive.-
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Kokichi Oma Survivor
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Then... if hes not making it till end game. Still has a high chance of flipping scum.... why not lynch now? Like he 100% doesnt make till end game. Abd he could actually be guilty. I see no downside.In post 3400, Kaede Akamatsu wrote:
Because it's not a hard guilty, albeit dave isnt surviving to endgame certainly. There's several other factors that could explain the missing nightkill than a super roleblock on dave.In post 3395, Kokichi Oma wrote:So why arent we lynching dave. IdgiHow do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.-
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Kokichi Oma Survivor
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Who is scum thenIn post 3402, Ramcius wrote:
because Dave is town and we should lynch scumIn post 3395, Kokichi Oma wrote:So why arent we lynching dave. IdgiHow do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.-
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Kokichi Oma Survivor
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You scumread me in the Not-Mafia game. So?In post 3416, Ouroboros wrote:I mean. I would have townread him in that game, for the record.
What sort of consequences?How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.-
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Kokichi Oma Survivor
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Ouroboros Goon
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correct me if I'm wrong but our slot was confused about the Caregivers scumreads until you decided to basically claim a guilty on me, and from then on I was trying to lynch you because you refused to prove your lie detect.You scumread me in the Not-Mafia game. So?-
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Kokichi Oma Survivor
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Are you trying to make me cryIn post 3428, Kaede Akamatsu wrote:And he's a friend of mine that replaced into this game just to play with me again since we haven't played in months, as long as I townread the slot, I'm gonna be like this, and if you lynch him and he flips town, then you dont even wanna know what a spiteful Kaede is capable of.How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.-
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Kokichi Oma Survivor
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I was willing to clear you. Didnt claim a guilty on youIn post 3435, Ouroboros wrote:
correct me if I'm wrong but our slot was confused about the Caregivers scumreads until you decided to basically claim a guilty on me, and from then on I was trying to lynch you because you refused to prove your lie detect.You scumread me in the Not-Mafia game. So?How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.-
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Ouroboros Goon
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That game had the sole person on this site from whom townreads on me mean anything and you chose to ignore their townread on me and try to get me copped, then tried to burn it on literal confscum, and in doing so lost town the game.-
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Ouroboros Goon
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Postie can't actually catch me as scum ftr but she can clear me as town about ~25% of the time that I'm town and doesn't clear me as scum.-
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Kaede Akamatsu Mafia Scum
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Ouroboros Goon
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(like her reads on me are overall terrible when I'm not a locktown read but if she says I'm locktown I'm going to be town, unless we're scumbuddies ofc ofc.)-
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Ouroboros Goon
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Anyway. I don't really want to fight Kaede here. I don't especially trust her townread on Kokichi but it's worth giving Kokichi a day or two over I guess.
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Kaede Akamatsu Mafia Scum
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Ouroboros Goon
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But Kaede, please stop threatening me with policy lynches to get me to do what you want.-
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OnTheMark Mafia Scum
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They don’t want to because I am “Math” :/In post 3431, Kokichi Oma wrote:
Then... if hes not making it till end game. Still has a high chance of flipping scum.... why not lynch now? Like he 100% doesnt make till end game. Abd he could actually be guilty. I see no downside.In post 3400, Kaede Akamatsu wrote:
Because it's not a hard guilty, albeit dave isnt surviving to endgame certainly. There's several other factors that could explain the missing nightkill than a super roleblock on dave.In post 3395, Kokichi Oma wrote:So why arent we lynching dave. Idgi-
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OnTheMark Mafia Scum
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Ouroboros Goon
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No, we don't want to because we don't agree with your reasoning.
My level of brute forcing thing is an exception not the rule.-
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Ramcius Mafia Scum
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well, you're a good teacher i guessIn post 3444, Ouroboros wrote:But Kaede, please stop threatening me with policy lynches to get me to do what you want.-
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MariaR Alternatively,
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