In post 1671, Tchill13 wrote:The fact performer claimed then asked that we lynch this very odd and alarming. No need to claim. I'm the one that's gonna get lynched. He obviously thought he'd live through the night phase to validate his other Mason so....
There's more than enough reason to be suspect of performer. WE NEED that other Mason claim.
Dude if I was with geo, why would I fake claim and ask that we lynch my buddy, and defend you?....
I’m an informed Miller who knows there isn’t any Loyal modifiers and there is a total of 4 scum.
-Morality
I'm easily the best person in the game at mechanics. I don't presume to be the best at anything else.
after a re ISO of nos and through his reads in 1477 about geo being null , with wave aris chill me and invis, being his sr at one point or another - interesting . If I combine that with tom's push on nos and the sr I had on nos on d1, then that makes sense why he's actually scum instead of town. Ugh I feel like I'm doing as badly as others have been in this game - no offense intended.
self notes: need to reread bbt and gus.
I’m an informed Miller who knows there isn’t any Loyal modifiers and there is a total of 4 scum.
-Morality
I'm easily the best person in the game at mechanics. I don't presume to be the best at anything else.
Yeah nos is probably scum here and that'd be my best bet on a lynch today if we can't find a better alternative.
When I was pushing geo I was wrong about the game state.
We're gonna have to deal with NM and ari at some point but it maybe better to leave them till the end. Use post flip associations. They're kind of forcing us to.
did a reread ISO of Gustavo, still don't see him being scum.
I'm getting a little mad at ari and nm. They need to get in here and help us. I've seen and played with their town and scum games, and they have that minimalistic playstyle but c'mon.
I’m an informed Miller who knows there isn’t any Loyal modifiers and there is a total of 4 scum.
-Morality
I'm easily the best person in the game at mechanics. I don't presume to be the best at anything else.
I like your posting Garmr. My primary reason for thinking TChill could be scum was his staunch defence of BV and I couldn't understand why. I guess your posting makes sense and is a possibility - but there are also a couple of other possibilities where TChill is town and TChill wants to lynch Nos Today so I guess he can live for now.
Nos really should be the lynch today.
Hmm. Based on a re ISO of bbt, maybe he isn't teamed with nos the?
For some reason I am still the only one voting geo, but this doesn't change my read on geo.
As stated in my posts of pgs 67-68 , based on bbt's post above, and others' interactions, VOTE: nosferatu
I’m an informed Miller who knows there isn’t any Loyal modifiers and there is a total of 4 scum.
-Morality
I'm easily the best person in the game at mechanics. I don't presume to be the best at anything else.
{Performer, Not_Mafia, Garmr, Ari, wavemode} - hard town. i'm willing to bet the game on it
{Nosferatu, GEO, Tchill, BBT, teacher} - remainders. there are reasons to townread a few of them but they're all possibilities
{Nosferatu, GEO, Tchill} - I rate this team 6/10 ?
Spoiler: analysis
minimal if any early day 1 interaction or mentions, though there is some GEO interaction 457 - Tchill drawing gosrir-BV associative without ever previously mentioning gosrir 465 - for Tchill, Nos has slid back into being "probably town" 468 - weird-sounding apology for something someone else said. buddying teacher? 478 - illogical observation by Tchill that mainly serves to quell the town's doubt 484 - Nos follows up on the observation 18 minutes afterward. he had previously not posted anything for almost 4 hours. he still does not mention or engage Tchill 586 - is distance between Nos and GEO, i will admit 655 - one gamestate-relevant interaction from Nos to Tchill. though Tchill does not continue the discussion 769 - GEO doesn't know whether he wants to hammer or not... 878 - this is purely my personal bias but in my experience scum don't like replacements, explaining this comment from Tchill. but, meh, this is a very minor point
day 2 has more interactions, though not a ton 978 - the fluidity with which tchill shifts me around his reads list is interesting, though i only mention this because of how extreme it's been this game. this kind of analysis is always going to be biased, so when scumhunting i try not to care TOO much who's town- and scum-reading me 997 - Tchill makes it a point to draw associatives between Nos and garmr 1022 - Tchill decides to be the fourth Nos vote. meh 1052 - Tchill hops of Nos after the heat has faded 1112 - GEO asking Nos to please be more pro-town 1130 - Tchill returns his vote to Nos
hey Tchill have you ever played with TywinL. might be a fun father-son thing
1204 - is actually a pretty good point. but i now know both players are 99% town sooo 1229 - Tchill adjusts to townreading GEO. fitting, since he now wants to lynch Nos
it's only fair to mention that at this point i defended Nos since i do like his ISO. it seems to have had some effect on dissipating his wagon
1271 - Tchill is questioning Ircher's Nos vote, while he himself is still voting Now. possibly because after i defended Nos, Tchill's plan changed to not bussing him 1289 - "In what world do scum do exactly what you expect them to do?" is a weird comment from Tchill, not becuase it's wrong, but because it lines up with part of why I'm against a massclaim. yet a day after saying this, Tchill advocates a massclaim partly because he thinks it allows us to predict what the scumteam will do. 1329 - Tchill slides off Nos and onto Tommy 1339 - If I ever make an alt I'm going to name it DeepWolf
{Nosferatu, GEO, BBT} - 2/10
Spoiler: analysis
77, 276, 285, 287, 387, 392, 394, 397, 399, 446, 452, 563, 586
and that's just the start of it
heavy amounts of discussion, suspicion, and voting that muddies the water in a way that i'm not comfortable with to call this a team
{Nosferatu, GEO, teacher} - 3/10
Spoiler: analysis
213 - teacher places the other two in the bottom of his reads but doesn't vote either
222, 273, 504, 928 heavily weaken this as a team for me, interaction wise
I'll come back to this and finish it if it becomes relevant, but for now it's a no
{Nosferatu, Tchill, BBT} - 2/10
Spoiler: analysis
61 - a muddying interaction between BBT and Tchill. meh 374 - mentioning this because i forgot about it before but this post from Tchill sounds manufactured to me, tonally
nixing this team at this point. as the day goes on thesee three get into a lot more muddying back-and-forths. in fact after reading the early game a few times now i will just say in general that Nos and BBT are not scum partners, at all. and teacher/BBT feels very off
my old nos/tchill notes still apply, so i won't repeat them 88 - this is where Tchill starts the teacher wagon. he doesn't really continue to push or pressure teacher at all though 305 - Tchill does mention he's surprised Nos doesn't have teacher in his lynchpool, yet Tchill himself has stopped pushing or engaging teacher soooo... 468 - it's worth noting that under the assumption that Tchill and teacher are partners, this post reads completely differently from how i interpreted it in the NS-GEO-Tchill section
overall the interaction between these three tapers off to nil as day 1 comes to a close. teacher in particular doesn't seem very interested in tchill or nos, and tchill almost entirely ignores teacher even though he has him as a scumread
1052 - Tchill goes from voting Nos to voting teacher. bleh 1166 - did i ever make a post about 1166? I don't remember, but i do at the very least remember contending with teacher that his wagon analyses make way too many ridiculous assumptions. this post is the epitome of that 1212 - Tchill decides he likes teacher for town 1237 - Tchiill changes his mind and puts teacher at null (yes, i read his reasoning for doing this. but it's still a worthwhile observation)
moving into the current day, Tchill declares teacher conftown because of his defense of Garmr? which is not only illogical, as i've pointed out, but also suggests he is 100% sure Garmr is town? which is weird considering how unsure he seems to be about performer being town. theoretically there is a lot more opening for garmr to be scum than there is for performer to be, given the current gamestate
{GEO, Tchill, teacher} - 3/10
Spoiler: analysis
not going to repeat my previous tchill/teacher points, nor my tchill/geo ones 273 - GEO votes and pressures teacher. bleh 317 - gosrir/teacher are in tchill's favorite lynchpool. bleh 405 - GEO "Can someone explain to me why Performer is better to lynch than Teacher?" bleh i already hate this as a team 928 - fuck it I'm moving on
{GEO, Tchill, BBT} - 3/10
Spoiler: analysis
i hate this as a taem because of the Tchill/BBT pairing. 166 and 176 are particularly bleh. moving on
occam's razor says Nos, Tchill, teacher makes the most sense and Nos, GEO, Tchill is a possibility. either way I want to say the one i'm townreading who isn't town is Nos
the disclaimer i would offer is that i'm purely evaluating whether teams are likely or not, so the analyses operate entirely under the assumption that the three people in question are scum together. sorry if the comments sound highly prejudicial
