Open 730: Donner Party [Terminado]

[OkaPoka]

Other scum could be anyone. Don't know, don't care rn. Maybe it is seal, I just think not_mafia is a much superior lynch than seal today. If the deadline comes I'll lynch seal, in fact ill lynch anyone who I feel is lurking today.

maybe not_mafia is indeed unlynchable tho, like an explanation why and an answer to my questions from the people ive asked from.

So why aren't we voting up not_mafia? Meta? Show me a game where he has done this playstyle of non interactivity, of having a sizeable amount of posts being naked votes, of interacting more with the moderator than with the players. Tell me why that his playstyle is playing to town's win condition and not scum.

still directed to everyone

[UnrealSeal]

Scum N_M simply does not post at all. In the game I played with scum N_M, he put down 1 naked vote then fucked off the rest of D1. Here's he put down multiple nakeds and is generally drawing more attention than the last time.

Honestly, the best thing to do with N_M is to get any town investigatives on him immediately. Policy Lynching/Vigging him is bad because if he's town he can be a genuinely good asset, if somewhat exasperating to work with.

[Korina]

Votecount 2.4

UnrealSeal(L-2)

~ ejjinami(11), ceejayvinoya(6), AP(33), ManateeDude(22)

Sando(1)

~ Not_Mafia(4)

Not_Mafia(1)

~ OkaPoka(49)

ejjinami(1)

~ Sando(20)

AP(1)

~ UnrealSeal(6)


Not Voting (2): Eragon(47), LuckyOtter(12)

With 10 alive it takes 6 to lynch.

Day 2 deadline is in (expired on 2018-07-17 00:13:00)

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[OkaPoka]

Scum N_M simply does not post at all. In the game I played with scum N_M, he put down 1 naked vote then fucked off the rest of D1. Here's he put down multiple nakeds and is generally drawing more attention than the last time.

Honestly, the best thing to do with N_M is to get any town investigatives on him immediately. Policy Lynching/Vigging him is bad because if he's town he can be a genuinely good asset, if somewhat exasperating to work with.

explain to me how someone who is borderline trolling and is a dank memer a good asset to work with.

if anything its a terrible asset because if we move to lylo and he is town, not_mafia is a free lynch for scum

and if he is scum then he can get away with trolling and bullshit and wifom and town will go in circles and kill themselves

[OkaPoka]

although i do appreciate that you gave the best response to my question

[UnrealSeal]

He's a troll and a memer but if I recall correctly, he also has some genuinely good reads a lot of the times.

Let me put it this way, this were an all VT game I'd agree to policy lynch him, but in a game where we can confirm (or at least get a hint to since GS) his alignment, there's no reason to get rid of him at this point.

[OkaPoka]

okay so if sando flips town we lynch not_mafia and if sando flips scum not_mafia is a good boi?

want to try out this experiment

[AP]

okay so if sando flips town we lynch not_mafia

And now I know both of them are town! This, my friend, is called

lining up lynches

.

[OkaPoka]

k

[OkaPoka]

VOTE: sando

[Not_Mafia]

dank memer

Why thankyou

[Not_Mafia]

I'm town btw

[OkaPoka]

i sheep not_mafia until he gets one wrong

[Sando]

Other scum could be anyone.

Don't know, don't care rn. Maybe it is seal, I just think not_mafia is a much superior lynch than seal today.

So you acknowledge you're considering the "other scum", which is a different faction than whatever scum you think (thought) NM is, then:

okay so if sando flips town we lynch not_mafia and if sando flips scum not_mafia is a good boi?

You assume a binary outcome here, red+red is flat out not an option for you in this scenario? Why not?

[OkaPoka]

Other scum could be anyone.

Don't know, don't care rn. Maybe it is seal, I just think not_mafia is a much superior lynch than seal today.

So you acknowledge you're considering the "other scum", which is a different faction than whatever scum you think (thought) NM is, then:

okay so if sando flips town we lynch not_mafia and if sando flips scum not_mafia is a good boi?

You assume a binary outcome here, red+red is flat out not an option for you in this scenario? Why not?

one maf is dead
that means
there is either sk left
maf left
or sk and maf left

so yeah

[OkaPoka]

and to the other point:
if you flip red and game isnt over and not_mafia isnt dead
we keep sheeping him until he is wrong

this isnt a ridiculous strategy join the train

because not_mafia is an omniscient mafia genius who needs no explanation

[OkaPoka]

I'm town btw

[Sando]

because not_mafia is an omniscient mafia genius who needs no explanation

Are you just trolling because you're annoyed at people not agreeing with you on NM?

[OkaPoka]

would you say not_mafia is trolling?

[Sando]

one maf is dead
that means
there is either sk left
maf left
or sk and maf left

If Blackstar was Mafia then we have just SK left, however this seems unlikely and a terrible assumption to make.
Blackstar flat out cannot be SK, the BP is "one night" not "one shot", and even if it was "one shot" AND both Vig and Mafia shot him, then Blackstars target would be dead.
By far and away the most likely scenario is both SK and Mafia still alive

[OkaPoka]

okay

so when you say im acknowledging other scum as another faction then that is a given right?

[Sando]

would you say not_mafia is trolling?

He always trolls.

[OkaPoka]

would you say not_mafia is trolling?

He always trolls.

is there a difference between scum not_mafia and town not_mafia that we can find?

[Sando]

okay

so when you say im acknowledging other scum as another faction then that is a given right?

I'm saying that in your Sando vs NM post you've assumed that only one of us can flip scum. The only people who can assume that (other than me and NM obviously) are:

Scum (either Mafia or SK)
GS with an inno on one of the 2 - that's not true here, you'd be pushing your inno and I can't see a gambit/trap from you here
Vig with a guilty elsewhere - that's not true here, and even if true you can't be 100%
Vig who ate Blackstar!Mafia - somehow I doubt that...

So given I can't see any logical town rational for your assumption+play, that only leaves scum in that list.

[OkaPoka]

and I can't see any logical town rational reason for not_mafia's play nor can i see any reason for town to defend his meta playstyle but here we are, thus I can only assume that these defenders are either a) scum and full of shit b) haven't responded and are willing to vote not_mafia in which case i am happy to lynch not_mafia or c) not_mafia is an omniscient mafia player and we need to sheep