Heroes Wanted! (Game Over)

[The Dream Weaver]

Votecount 6.2

Leader: MathBlade

Nancy Drew 39 (1):

the worst

Toranaga (1):

Nero Cain

No Lynch (1):

Nancy Drew 39

Creature (0):

Drixx (0):

Gamma Emerald (0):

Kokichi Oma (0):

Nero Cain (0):

Nosferatu (0):

Sakura Hana (0):

Sando (0):

Theta Alpine (0):

the worst (0):

Not Voting (9):

Creature, Drixx, Gamma Emerald, Kokichi Oma, MathBlade, Nosferatu, Sando, Theta Alpine, Toranaga

With

12

players in play, it takes

7

to lynch.
The day ends in (expired on 2018-08-29 01:00:00).

Abilities Available for Acquisition

Hypnosis:

Target another player. Any actions this player uses before the end of the next Day Phase will be redirected to another player of your choice instead.

Mind Control:

Target another player. You may move their vote once before the end of the next Day Phase. You may change its position by PM'ing the Mod (me).

**Precognition:

Learn the next set of Superpowers available for acquisition before they're revealed.

**Self-Detonation:

Target another player. Both you and that player will die.

*Shapeshifting:

Target another player. Any actions you take this Night Phase will appear as though that player performed them instead.

Weather Manipulation:

Target another player. If that player takes Flight, that player dies.

*May be used to modify any Superpowers a player may have. Does not count against the number of Superpowers a player may use each Night Phase.
**May be used during the Day but still counts against the following Night's Superpower usage. If used during the Day, resolves immediately. If used during the Night, resolves normally.

[MathBlade]

Nancy would be locked up to the heal Sakura gambit and iirc Petrify says target another player.

[Nancy Drew 39]

but I'm town reading Math too based on mechanics. Math needs 3 votes and assuming he can't vote himself there was only two scum that could vote him or he's not scum and all 3 scum voted him. Right?

But why does town!Math lie about precog? How does that make any sense?

He got half a list right. What happened to the other 3 powers? How do you account for that?

[Nero Cain]

p sure you were supposed to vote me. @Nancy

[Sando]

I voted Ausaka last night, not Nero. Wasn’t I supposed to do that?

because she was supposed to dayvig safely and Nero was supposed to be the backup?

Nope, you were supposed to vote Nero, it was pretty clear.

Can you please stop being an ass while we're at it, you're either scum or don't understand the gamestate, either way you shouldn't be being an ass towards people.

[Nosferatu]

I'm going to fucking LOSE IT if tora flips scum

[Nosferatu]

Like I'm gonna be the most obnoxious fucker on the planet when it comes to my reads again

[Nero Cain]

But why does town!Math lie about precog? How does that make any sense?

but why does he lie about it? I asked before but hasn't he been doing precog lists b4 and weren't they all correct?

Can you please stop being an ass while we're at it, you're either scum or don't understand the gamestate, either way you shouldn't be being an ass towards people.

She's not? Now Tor....

[Nero Cain]

Like I'm gonna be the most obnoxious fucker on the planet when it comes to my reads again

Were you scum reading him and you got ignored?

[Sando]

Math doesn't win a 3v3 tie against Nero because of the tie rules.

So let's assume that Petrify removes your vote. That leaves {Gamma, Tora}.

Math still can't be scum because Math needs THREE votes to get elected due to losing ties against Nero.

Petrify does not stop the vote, I just confirmed with mod.

So we have 3 "claimed" votes for Nero in Gamma, Tora and

Sakura

(we just kinda have to assume town aren't stupid and will follow the plan at this point).

Scum voting for town can't even beat that, so there absolutely MUST be a liar in those 3.

[Nancy Drew 39]

I still don't think Sakura is scum but Tora/Nancy makes sense.

Why? We have 2 superheroes unaccounted for on both N2 and 4. Who did Titus give power to if not Ank?
Who did Math (yes, I honestly can’t see town!Math only posting half a correct results list) give powers to i,stezd of Stun?

I can’t see what world as I believe Theta pointed out where UFO and Math are ever w/w in this game. I just don’t think they are enough good actors to pull that off, so UFO is probably town.

Math also probably lied about the TIME he found out his precog results, so why wouldn’t it been possible for him to have used petrification last night? He even freaking claimed to have it and pushed to let him use it with town’s blessing.

He also suspiciously pushed the worst’s halfbaked bomb plan. If you let Math skate here, he deserves his win.

y do you think I'm not leader?

I honestly wish I knew. I know I didn’t vote for Math. Maybe, some people didn’t vote like they were supposed to?

I did everything I thought I was supposed to, and I’m still not getting believed.

[MathBlade]

VOTE: Toranaga

I will be so fucking escatic if this flips red.

[Nancy Drew 39]

like if

{

Ausuka

, Sakura, Gamma, Tora, Nancy}

these 4 voted for me then I should be leader. So not everyone voted me here.

Tora bombs today or eats rope.

No, Drixx is wrong. I voted Ausaka.

[Nancy Drew 39]

So let's assume that dying removes your vote.
So let's assume that Petrify removes your vote.

They don't.

@Drixx, Petrify isn’t a day action.

[Nero Cain]

Who is scum, Nancy?

[Drixx]

but I'm town reading Math too based on mechanics. Math needs 3 votes and assuming he can't vote himself there was only two scum that could vote him or he's not scum and all 3 scum voted him. Right?

Since you were off the mislynch, Math could only be leader over you by getting more votes. Even if you had been on the mislynch you would still win ties because Math was leader previously.

My only other thought is that scum have a factional ability of

Mind Control: Target another player. You may move their vote once before the end of the next Day Phase. You may change its position by PM'ing the Mod (me).

that works on the leader votes, idk.

I really think that scum only has a kill as a factional ability. It otherwise breaks the entire point of the setup. Earn a plurality of votes to gain powers for you and whomever you choose.

I don’t really think that is the case Drixx.

Mainly because it forces town imho to play antiwin con to do anything. Plus if they don’t give powers to the townread then it is a scum claim. With all the good powers and circle jerk potential scum have to have something.

Except no they don't because we saw power negate and petrify go off last night and we were operating under the assumption that only one possible scum had snuck in under Titus the night Ank died, but what we observe tells us differently.

And of course the fact that you are leader means that at least two people were in the very trusted group tasked with ensuring Nero was the leader if Ausuka got killed during the night.

The entire way the game has played out demonstrates that the setup rewards scum for fooling town. (Which is the actual basic point of mafia; consider mountainous for example. This is a themed powered setup which effectively mimics the basic game really well in terms of what it rewards and punishes).

[Nosferatu]

Like I'm gonna be the most obnoxious fucker on the planet when it comes to my reads again

Were you scum reading him and you got ignored?

people were looking at me like i had 3 goddamn heads

[Nosferatu]

on some Cerberus type shit

[Nero Cain]

Everyone knows you only have 2. :/

[Nancy Drew 39]

like if

{

Ausuka

, Sakura, Gamma, Tora, Nancy}

these 4 voted for me then I should be leader. So not everyone voted me here.

Tora bombs today or eats rope.

I think he just eats rope period.

If my theory of scum factional abilities is right that either scum always get a power or that powers are not always attached to the scum player who has them then Tor would be able to petrify and scum doesn’t have suicide bomber. He would claim “healed” by the echo he dictated on that spot so no one echoed him as he hit Sakura as that would be a dead give away.

But why did he hesitate on hebi vote then and why is only HALF your list right?

[Nero Cain]

Scum hesitating/calling town scum for town cred is a thing.

[Sando]

So there's 1-2 scum confirmed in:

Gamma/Tor/Sakura

If Math is scum it's 2 confirmed, if Math is town it's 1 confirmed.

Mathscum can only get 2 scumvotes on him, meaning only one person can have voted Nero.
Mathtown can get 3 scumvotes on him, meaning 2 people can have voted Nero.

So I think this says that mathmatically, Math can't be scum with Nancy.

If it's Nancy+Math+Tor for example, that's still only 2 votes on Math, and Gamma/Sakura voting Nero would win it for Nero.

[Creature]

Petrify does not stop the vote, I just confirmed with mod.

Death doesn't either.

[Nancy Drew 39]

Nancy would be locked up to the heal Sakura gambit and iirc Petrify says target another player.

All I know is someone has petrify and it was only available Days 3 and 5.

It’s not me obviously, so someone other then me picked it on D 5. You are the only one to have actually claimed it.

I took HT on D3 and Echo last night.

[Sando]

Petrify does not stop the vote, I just confirmed with mod.

Death doesn't either.

Wait so in Ank+Sak+Gamma+Tor, Math somehow got more votes?

Impossible for there not to be 2 liars in this list and it not be town-Math in that case.