Open 736: Diffusion of Power - Game Over

[Music and Mail]

I neverrr

[Music and Mail]

I neverrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

[Music and Mail]

I neverrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

[implosion]

You will also note that Implosion is not calling me scum, just discrediting my read.
He is fully aware that my read on him is 100% effective.

Why does he do that as town? Answer: he doesn't. As town he asks to get copped to get me to fuck off of him or asks for me to get copped because there is no way that he thinks that I'm scum right now.
But as scum? Calling me scum does nothing, he's going for the kill on me either way and if it gets stopped it's just game over for him. Discrediting my read on him is sufficient for his purposes as scum and it's what he's doing.

And that’s why I said shade noted
VOTE: implosion
We’re still probably lynching Carca but I want my vote on scum in the meantime

How is it shade when I have explicitly said I think he's probably scum, with specific reasoning?

[Music and Mail]

maybe next time u should roll town instead of rolling scum?

[implosion]

(granted, since that post I downgraded it to a 50/50 between him and a50, but that has changed since he started claiming a 100% read on me; I just haven't been particularly vocal because i'm still at work, and should really stop letting this bullshit distract me)

[Music and Mail]

You should give it a rest, this game is over for you sir.

[implosion]

i probably would if i were scum, tbh.

[Gamma Emerald]

You will also note that Implosion is not calling me scum, just discrediting my read.
He is fully aware that my read on him is 100% effective.

Why does he do that as town? Answer: he doesn't. As town he asks to get copped to get me to fuck off of him or asks for me to get copped because there is no way that he thinks that I'm scum right now.
But as scum? Calling me scum does nothing, he's going for the kill on me either way and if it gets stopped it's just game over for him. Discrediting my read on him is sufficient for his purposes as scum and it's what he's doing.

And that’s why I said shade noted
VOTE: implosion
We’re still probably lynching Carca but I want my vote on scum in the meantime

How is it shade when I have explicitly said I think he's probably scum, with specific reasoning?

What you said is an okay defense but I 100% noted the same thing when I read it. It’s perfectly possible that was a glimmer of your scum alignment.

[implosion]

"it's perfectly possible"

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[Gamma Emerald]

You act like it’s not scummy because you scumread them
But I still feel like the shading point is valid as an individual post can deviate from a viewpoint presented

[Music and Mail]

That's what I'd say here implosion

Ok you're at work I respect that I'll stop posting so you can get work done

[Music and Mail]

i probably would if i were scum, tbh.

@tbis

[Creature]

So was the guilty actually real?

[Creature]

I don't think town!RC misreads implosion here, so one of them gotta be scum.

[skitter30]

Not_Mafia 76; Spooghetioso 977; Nicholas Cage 1543; Gamma Emerald 1648; Music and Mail 1657; Carcalilly 1684; CreativeMod1 1712

this is a god awful wagon and all of you who are town should be feel bad

i think nm and nicholas cage have incredibly high scum equity, as does rc; if rc still won't be a thing today i think nm and nicholas should be seriously considered for the lynch

also i'm strongly reconsidering my townread on a50

==

BuJaber has been killed. They were a Town Cop.

?? kinda confused that he was nk'd here

==

Also on the basis that M&M might’ve died, I didn’t check them

Skitter is....Town

no offense but i was a really really really bad choice of a check.

rc was always the optimal check here and if you weren't going to check him you should have checked in {nm/nick cage/spooge}

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serious question. How frequently are your reads really, really bad?

rc i want to hear the answer to this too because your reads this game are literally god-awaful

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MMMM

Penguin I had to knee jerk vote because there was a serious risk that gamma was bussing to get me lynched for shit reasons then my reads would be ignored and town would lose.
If I wasn't under duress due to Skitter I wouldn't have had to make that vote.

Skitter I guess I can't read her when she's doing nothing but derptunneling me and calling me 80% scum? I'm fine with that.

You and Gamma? Eh. I would bet real $ that you aren't both town in any world.

your penguin vote was horrific; don't blame me for your shitty votes; the way he claimed was townie and he should not have been yesterday's lynch and you going along with it when like everyone you scumread was on it is bad

implosion's still town imo and we're not lynching him today

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I'd like the people townreading Almost50 to explain why, because I get seriously bad vibes from him. I can try to look into them more deeply but so much of what he's said sounds tonally completely wrong.

i'm starting to lose my townread on him

his reasons for scurmeading me were quite bad and he should have been townreading me there imo

pushing cmod yesterday and saying we should policy him today was bad too

==

Skitter is....Town

Now that's a relief (for me at least).

OK, I probably will check this later if nobody does it before me, but which of this player list has experience with BuJaber? It looks like such a weird kill it almost came from someone who BuJaber is most familiar with that they were afraid he's peg them.

me and you both played with bujaber ...

why are you not trying to lynch cmod today exactly ... ? and why are you believing his result here ... ?

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idk why it looks weird he was pretty universally townread and his reads might have been good too though idr what they were.

What would be a not-weird kill to you, a50?

honestly i was expecting a50 to die if he was town for being in the back of that protect chain and i'm a little bit tilted that he wasn't

==

So the thing that most confuses me here is that this is the first time you said Skitter's name... at all

I don't understand why they were suspicious enough to investigate but not suspicious enough to ask any questions during day 1?

this feels wrong tonally and/or on gut

ok starting a new post here

[skitter30]

Also
VOTE: PenguinPower
If this flips scum, CM investigates who ever he likes, because we’re autolynching RC Day 2 in that case.

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did you just get scared when I called out the scumteam?

like rc keeping your vote on after this is bad

[Music and Mail]

My readslist is basically identical to the person that scum chose to nightkill last night.

You're sitting here all game calling me scum.

Maybe I'm not the person here who has bad reads?

[Music and Mail]

Like I obviously

royally

dropped the ball on PenguinPower
But if I didn't vote PenguinPower and he was scum with Gamma there's a serious possibility of me just getting clusterfucked tomorrow with my reads already discredited from the Penguin flip.

If my slot wasn't under threat I would have been able to approach Penguin very differently but I made what I thought was the highest equity play in a situation where I was really scared that scum were maneuvering to mislynch me.

Skitter if you scumread me that's fine whatever. My being lynched even doesn't hurt town's chances of winning the game.

But you cannot start scumreading people that are in the townblock.

[skitter30]

Really interested in thoughts on the above particularly from skitter, creature, gamma, and almost50.

Particularly from a50, would you agree with the point that wagon structure from a neutral pov points to at least one scum in {you, me, NC}?

at the beginning when i read your wall i was wondering if it was really plausible that 2 or possible 3 scum were on that wagon; i wasn't around to watch it in real-time and i didn't realize that the nc wagon had gotten that high; i think it makes a lot of sense for penguin to have been a competing town wagon and that scum were trying to save scum

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implo/gamma are the only lynches ever

yall can start piling up votes

we're not lynching implosion today

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Carcasilly is scum

I'm N1 cop

VOTE: Carcasilly

i don't particularly believe this claim coming from you

i think you have a fairly large amount of scum equity

and checking carca people is kinda ???

==

VOTE: carcasilly

bad vote

==

Any n2 docs are on me or this game is a loss
In fact

VOTE: IMPLO

You guys are going to throw this after I'm gone

Both the n1 and the n2 kill said that gamma and implo were both sci don't care what your reads on them are you guys are still alive for a reason and that reason is your reads are shit

well you lynched the n2 doc so ....

and no i don't think you should be demanding docs here

and no we aren't lynching implosion

==

ROTFL!

So, you believe I put BOTH my scum partners at the very bottom of my read list?

why is your response focused on the showing everyone that you aren't scum *with those two people in particular* and not on showing everyone that *you aren't scum* ... ?

this feels weird and kinda wrong

kinda like this time actually: viewtopic.php?p=10220204#p10220204

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If anyone finds literally anything RC is posting right now about me convincing, please let me know because he's basically doing a Gish Gallop, an intellectually dishonest exercise in sophistry.

yeah, no, you're good

i think i'm just going to stop responding to him calling you out at this point; i was going to do that today if he was going to continue pushing me

==

You will also note that Implosion is not calling me scum, just discrediting my read.
He is fully aware that my read on him is 100% effective.

Why does he do that as town? Answer: he doesn't. As town he asks to get copped to get me to fuck off of him or asks for me to get copped because there is no way that he thinks that I'm scum right now.
But as scum? Calling me scum does nothing, he's going for the kill on me either way and if it gets stopped it's just game over for him. Discrediting my read on him is sufficient for his purposes as scum and it's what he's doing.

And that’s why I said shade noted
VOTE: implosion
We’re still probably lynching Carca but I want my vote on scum in the meantime

bad vote

[Gamma Emerald]

Skitter since you’re Town can you stop shooting down pushes left and right while suggesting None yourself?

[skitter30]

Like I obviously

royally

dropped the ball on PenguinPower
But if I didn't vote PenguinPower and he was scum with Gamma there's a serious possibility of me just getting clusterfucked tomorrow with my reads already discredited from the Penguin flip.

If my slot wasn't under threat I would have been able to approach Penguin very differently but I made what I thought was the highest equity play in a situation where I was really scared that scum were maneuvering to mislynch me.

Skitter if you scumread me that's fine whatever. My being lynched even doesn't hurt town's chances of winning the game.

But you cannot start scumreading people that are in the townblock.

to be able to lead lynches with the docs leashed onto me until I lead a single mislynch. 1.

[skitter30]

Skitter since you’re Town can you stop shooting down pushes left and right while suggesting None yourself?

where, pray tell, am i shooting down pushes left and right? i am calling out bad votes, sure

we're not lynching implosion today; it's not a thing that's happening

i've already said who i want to lynch today: rc, nicholas cage, possibly nm, i'm low-key thinking that carca should be saved for tomorrow tbh given that she did claim n2 cop; readswise i'm not entirely sure how i feel about her reaction yet

[Gamma Emerald]

Ok fine I missed that
But why are you so opposed to lynching implosion? Is it just because it’s what RC wants? That’s no reason to not vote someone. RC did similar to Mathblade in Lynch the Wolves. Not that I think RC is scum here, but even if she is implosion is still a good wagon imo.

[Music and Mail]

I DIDNT FUCKING LEAD ONTO PP SKITTER.

I SHEEPED A WELL BUILT WAGON

FUCK OFF.