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Is this the informes thing you mentioned? I saw this while skimming when the thread was much shorterIn post 9, SaskeIsMyYaoiKismesis wrote:Adventurers! I bear beside me a disclosure most dastardly and depressing! (,,꒪꒫꒪,,)
While in the CONTEXT of the tabletop roleplaying game of DUNGEONS AND DRAGONS advancing within class levels is generally regarded as a positive attribute, within the NATURAL RULES AND REGULATIONS of this game of mafia there is a harsh consequence of negative repurcussions! Apparently town has a COLLECTIVE LIMIT of how much we can level before we AUTOMATICALLY FORFEIT our chances of achieving a victory over evil! The gods of knowledge and wisdom have not bequeathed to me the full disclosure regarding the EXACT limits here BUT as we learn more of the mechanics of the game hopefully this segmented divination becomes much more elucidated! (ノ´ヮ´)ノ*:・゚✧
TO transmit this in a trim and tidy technic:There exists a LIMIT to how much we can safely level up WITHOUT giving scum a free win. SO if anyone can CHOOSE or CONTROL when they level up to any extent this is imperative to keep in mind!
ANYWAY with THAT out of the way...
VOTE: Lovebrid
It HAS been a while since I last espied thee... HOW has the natural forces surrounding us treated you since our last encounter in temporal space? (*・艸・)<Embrace The Void>
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Deciding to take the Pine approach to replacing inIn post 927, schadd_ wrote:tael forgetting the idea of multiball do u have strong feelings abt wisdom
Who the heck proposed multiball?<Embrace The Void>
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Oh god we have an RC slapfight on our handsIn post 931, Tatl and Tael wrote:Keychain is outright scumreading there, for the record.
My 'first blow' was to scumread your slot: you reacted by making it super personal. I'm keeping it super personal because it's clear to me that it is super personal from your point of view and that makes it personal to me because you attacking me personally as opposed to attacking me mafia wise is a lot more antagonizing.RC, you were the one who dealt the first blow -in THIS game.
Can someone tell me in like 10 sentences or less how this got to where it is?<Embrace The Void>
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So multiball proposed as an idea of why reads feel a certain way I guess?In post 1046, schadd_ wrote:
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Deciding to take the Pine approach to replacing inIn post 927, schadd_ wrote:tael forgetting the idea of multiball do u have strong feelings abt wisdom
Who the heck proposed multiball?
That’s alright. I don’t know the exact when-and-how of this but sometimes multiball spec can be a scumtell. I don’t think it is here though.<Embrace The Void>
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Idr what my experience with scum you isIn post 944, Lovebird wrote:
I would be townread right now as scumIn post 892, Tatl and Tael wrote:Like LOVEBIRD HAS 58 POSTS.
YOU SAY SHE LURKS AS SCUM: I AGREE SHE LURKS AS SCUM
SHE IS NOT LURKING THIS GAME
WHAT DOES THIS MEAN ABOUT HER ALIGNMENT?
I think I skimmed one of your old games for ammo to push you with in Large 210<Embrace The Void>
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Oh dear god it’s RC and Math ONCE A-FUCKING-GAINIn post 949, Tatl and Tael wrote:I have nothing against you and a lot against your partner Nancy.
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This postIn post 956, Tatl and Tael wrote:Like nancy you have to realize that if you're town Mathblade is intentionally trying to piss me off then playing the victim in the situation. that's not okay. make him stop.
you don't have to blindly sheep what I say or anything, I'm not trying to bully you, but I want mathblade to not knee jerk oppose shit because I support it
If it was then on their mains I’d be like “omg stfu” but I’d understand there’s not much to do there beyond one of those slots dying. But with hydras and it CLEARLY being a “one head v one head” thing, it’s perfectly within the means for there to be some cool down. So le chill. This goes to both parties but I guess more to Math as with what RC has said I think they’re more at fault here.<Embrace The Void>
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Hi MariaIn post 1052, MariaR wrote:ohhhhhnowI understand why people would sr sasuke.
Wouldn't lynch today but I understand it
Ngl your avatar triggers me for a -kinda weird- reason<Embrace The Void>
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I’m kinda townreading RightKnight hydra for not just doubling down on the push, which I think they would do if scumIn post 957, RightKnight wrote:In post 949, Tatl and Tael wrote:I have nothing against you and a lot against your partner Nancy.
RC, first of all, good to know. However, you feel about Math, you do know that if you can read me correctly, it means you are also reading Math correctly as well. And tbf, I still don’t care for either yours or your partner’s reasons for scumreading our slot. I could of course elaborate on why it should blatantly so obvious I’m town here but I think that might be in violation of some rule here, so I won’t.In post 950, Tatl and Tael wrote:And ftr I know what you're like. When I talk about making it personal I'm not talking about you. I expect a certain reaction from you. Mathblade me scumreading him into a whole bunch of bullshit about me hating him and not respecting his '75% winrate' on a different site and pulled that gambler's fallacy to discredit my reads.
Mathblade is a programmer, they're competent enough to apply gambler's fallacy, so that was either tactical discrediting or them being an asshole discrediting.
And I once again reiterate my point that so long as your slot wrongly scumreads our slot for bad reasons, it will be extremely hard to take any of your other reads seriously.
Is this a bad read?<Embrace The Void>
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Oh you would huh?In post 980, MariaR wrote:Would srsly pay for rightkinght and TT to shut up and go away for 2 days so the thread could breathe<Embrace The Void>
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y r u treating them like a newb when they’re very notIn post 1045, schadd_ wrote:
white knighting is a different thing than your acct's username - its when somebody makes a huge show of defending a town slot in such a way to seem like they are abusing informationIn post 1043, RightKnight wrote:
He has played a number of games with me - all but 2 he has been town and all I have been town.In post 1023, schadd_ wrote:wisdom do u often get accused of white knighting when town<Embrace The Void>
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Yeah I’m with Maria here: why would I, someone who replaced into a zero poster slot, being towny shake up anyone’s reads?In post 1076, MariaR wrote:
you have no response to this?In post 1072, MariaR wrote:Why would Gamma being town shake your reads.<Embrace The Void>
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Which head is this?In post 1078, RightKnight wrote:
This isn’t a good argument. Why isn’t it conceiveable thatIn post 1071, SaskeIsMyYaoiKismesis wrote:
I meant games I have played OFFSITE and not on MS - it is a buzzphrase I am seeing poop up frequently now? This lacks a relationship pertinent with northsidegirl's game in any formIn post 1068, MariaR wrote:This implies in our past game it's been obv you have an agenda and I disagree.
Adn just because I write wordily does not mean I have reads I feel confident in besides the ones I said I was confident in WHICH I am not even confident in anymore now that I think Gamam is town? What is your point?
1056 1053 adn 1051 are all townie FOR gamma specificallyDunnstral wrote:
Based on what?In post 1063, SaskeIsMyYaoiKismesis wrote:The worst part of this WHOLE thing is that Gamma is town too... (눈_ლ)
And nancy again I do not intend to be rude but that is not at all what I am saying. Wisdom TOWNREADS me yet if I merge his reads with mine we result in a gamestate where everyone is town WHICH is obvoiusly impossible. THUS either one of us is wrong OR Wisdom is scum - that literally goes without saying.SOMEof either Wisdom’s or your reads be incorrect?
Wrt to Gamma, I think you’re probably right. Should I even bother to point out the obvious irony of yet another player who has meta with me me from several games - and in this case - REALLY SUPER IMPORTANT distinction between Wisdom - one of which I actually WAS scum in?<Embrace The Void>
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It’s a meta-related question that was for a game you weren’t in So I don’t see what you can do *le shrug*
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Do you think my presence is unimportant (ÒДÓױ)?In post 1099, Lovebird wrote:Hm, I don't think anything important happened since my last post (⌒_⌒;)<Embrace The Void>
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Do you really want this?In post 1103, SaskeIsMyYaoiKismesis wrote:... no
I'm saying that the sentence you believe is establishing a wisdom/you connection is actually me stating "I could be wrong about you being town or nancy being scum" as the reason why I would want to investigate wisdom's thought process. Hence why I removed the first part of the sentence and directly quoted it again.
pedit: you guys need to randomly use thou and more obscure words smdh<Embrace The Void>
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Meh that’s more the type of scumhunting ellibereth uses so it could be that, though I sometimes opt for different things just off of mood (wut/wat is one of these)In post 1119, RightKnight wrote:
He made it a specific point of Maria answering “yes” or “yeah” over “ye”. I’m still confused about what he was trying to discern. Why would he think her saying or not saying “yes” or “yeah”, was alignment indicative? This is where I am clearly lost in this game.In post 1112, Wisdom wrote:Kokichi did some voodoo stuff and made it look like it was lie detector but then said he was just reaction testing
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Btw what link are you referring to?In post 1116, RightKnight wrote:
Anything related to that link T&T posted or something else?In post 1110, Gamma Emerald wrote:Btw I’ve seen some stuff about voodoo and lie detector In connection to Kokichi, someone wanna explain that?<Embrace The Void>
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What do you think of RC here in comparison to Lynch the Wolves?In post 1139, RightKnight wrote:
~~Castle headIn post 1137, RightKnight wrote:Hey haven’t read anything haven’t talked with Nancy yet. A bit weird cuz of painkillers atm.
Is there a quick question I can answer?<Embrace The Void>
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I’d believe itIn post 1157, Kokichi Oma wrote:What if I told you guys, if I get chosen as the lynch. One of the people I voodoo'd would be lynched instead. And I can do that every day. Who would believe me?
I mean there’s no way scum has that without some major hating property<Embrace The Void>
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HmIn post 1192, Tatl and Tael wrote:no1 scumreads you based off you being 'good as scum', no one has said that, and you saying that to try to get people not to wagon feels like you're trying to hit a note that you think I would empathize with.
If you're referring to my charisma comment, that's really not the same as you being good at scum it was referring to you being jovial and friendly as opposed to trying to hunt scum.
I need to think on this post but first impressions are it makes a good point against MessComp<Embrace The Void>
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lolIn post 1197, Kokichi Oma wrote:
I'll call you yaoi insteadIn post 1185, SaskeIsMyYaoiKismesis wrote:In post 1183, Kokichi Oma wrote:If that's the case, why didn't I make Sasuke do the same thing since I voodoo'd them too?
SIMYK is my go-to<Embrace The Void>
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I did whatIn post 1217, schadd_ wrote:
gamma did thatIn post 1211, SaskeIsMyYaoiKismesis wrote:
then I kind of find that hard that to believe if you just commented on a recent post of mine? like surely if you noticed that while skimming down to post then you noticed a white vote?In post 1199, Messiah Complex wrote:
I will probably get around to posting something more significant later, there are a few things I want to reread and see if things have settled for me. I know what you mean about my activity. I was pretty jazzed that this game was starting because of what had happened with the games before. I came out with a bang because of that and then expected to be able to keep up the pace, but scheduling conflicts and Desp having trouble getting into the game left the posting on my shoulders for the most part, and I do have a lot of shit going on myself, which is why I was really looking forward to having him there as well. We talked tonight though and have a better understanding of where the other is.In post 1193, SaskeIsMyYaoiKismesis wrote:
This is basically why I stopped townreading messiah yeah - his initial posts were ok and I thought some of the things he pushed his first set of posts were believable thoughts but i don't get why that just fizzles out as the hydra gets less active. Real life happens but you don't stop scumhunting just because of that.In post 1192, Tatl and Tael wrote:that's really not the same as you being good at scum it was referring to you being jovial and friendly as opposed to trying to hunt scum.
I really dgaf if this sounds like an excuse, it just is what it is. Thats why our days last as long as they do and we are able to pop in and out. I will do a full catch up post and will try to answer the questions about the composition of our wagon. Is it still just 3 votes strong? Love, TnT and Schadd right?
i hate reasoning like this and dont really want it to influence my read but like that is kind of weird selective reading
im sure she can bend over more seductively than i canTatl and Tael wrote:like if i were to lynch on reads alone i'd want to lynch simyk but i also don't want to lynch them for reasons lol<Embrace The Void>
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Yeah, I’ve played with both heads a bit, and had a game with the hydra in the pastIn post 1233, Messiah Complex wrote:i've played with gamma quite a bit ya
@wis eragon is interesting, is that new or did you just chose not to voice it when people were townreading them?<Embrace The Void>
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Considering it, but I want to see a bit more first (either via ISOing or her posting more)In post 1247, RightKnight wrote:
Sheep me?In post 1240, Gamma Emerald wrote:Okay yeah that’s a bit gross from MariaR<Embrace The Void>
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...?In post 977, Kokichi Oma wrote:
Sorry for checking in after work. And i think I stated how I feel on maria. I voted her. So I think she could be scum. Anything else?In post 971, Lovebird wrote:
This pop in right now. Your vote on me. You were "testing" maria, but never seem to come to a conclusion or say anything about what you got out of the test . You haven't done anything except the voodoo and the "test" and sheep onto meIn post 970, Kokichi Oma wrote:
Ok then what's scummy about meIn post 952, Lovebird wrote:Btw, I think it's mistake to townread Kokichi looking back. Is faking lie detector really that towny? Really nothing else besides that.
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So you’re saying you accusing Nancy of instigating the fight was a reaction test? Ehhh I can kinda see it but it’s still hella shady.In post 1182, MariaR wrote:
If you're town prob NK.In post 1172, RightKnight wrote:
And how would we get killed Maria, by Nk or vig? I don’t know if you’re actually scum here but that post I voted you for, is as anti-town af.In post 1068, MariaR wrote:
This implies in our past game it's been obv you have an agenda and I disagree. For someone with the most posts and a lot of them being quite "wordy" for lack of better vocab atm I find it hard that you have almost no foot hold in this gameIn post 1066, SaskeIsMyYaoiKismesis wrote:My reads aren't normal since because I'm struggling to find a foothold in this game that is pretty obv.
AND based on past games "feels like you have an agenda" doesn't mean anything unless you can point to WHAT that means specificallyIn post 1067, RightKnight wrote:In post 1060, MariaR wrote:I keep telling myself that I don't need to resolve right because they're either gonna get killed or lynched without me having to do anything.
Prob wishful thinking
I don’t understand this post. This implies you don’t really care about our alignment and haven’t formed any thoughts on it - one way or the other.
Correct.
If you're scum I expect you to be caught by day 3. Your fighting with RC has made me lose any interest in your slot. Don't really give a f if you see it as anti town for me to not want to read you.
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Not sure about the birdIn post 1319, RightKnight wrote:
Gamma can I bribe you with smilies to join the Lovebird wagon? If this VC is at all close to accurate then all my townreads would be on it and it would be L-1. I can then chit chat with Nancy about MariaR overnight and we have time to see if we can gel on that.In post 1028, Aristophanes wrote:With 13 alive it takes 7 votes to lynch.
D1 will end on Saturday October 20th at 1pm or in (expired on 2018-10-20 13:00:00)
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Meh I don’t like this bullyingIn post 1326, Tatl and Tael wrote:Like I'm sorry but the way righktnight is playing the game I have to make this at least somewhat ugly to play towards my town wincondition so either I need to start shutting both of their heads the fuck up in thread or we need to PL them to keep the game sane.
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WatIn post 1351, Tatl and Tael wrote:Whatever this isn't fair to anyone when it's got to the point where I feel like I have to do this.
Aristophanes please replace both hydras and please also file a listmod report because I have reported Mathblade for pulling this on me several times and would like this added to the list.
MC is scum bye.
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Why not ceejay?In post 1368, Wisdom wrote:gamma, rightknight, dunn: come vote lovebird, your votes are not doing any good where they are<Embrace The Void>
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OkayIn post 1446, Wisdom wrote:
Because he posts once a fortnight and hes not someone likely to listen anywayIn post 1438, Gamma Emerald wrote:
Why not ceejay?In post 1368, Wisdom wrote:gamma, rightknight, dunn: come vote lovebird, your votes are not doing any good where they are
He was the only other person not on a main wagon so I felt like there could be something weird there<Embrace The Void>
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Which ones?In post 1475, RightKnight wrote:Okay, just ISO’d both an LB town and scumgame. She seems more like the latter in this game.
VOTE: Lovebird<Embrace The Void>
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What makes rogues town?In post 1559, RightKnight wrote:
We have a night chat at night with all other rogues.In post 1558, SaskeIsMyYaoiKismesis wrote:ok, then i cant really reconcile what those role related reasons would be until lovebird verifies the claim. if you have a legitimate cc you should claim it then
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It’s why I find it hard to believe masons also exist in this setup.<Embrace The Void>
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Wait there are class hoods?In post 1561, Tatl and Tael wrote:Their claim is that they're scum and they think they can get lovebird through and hide behind maths meta of being a bad player. Also the existence of s neighbourhood (we are in a hood with other druids btw, though none exist) is such a stupid reason to deny that masons exist that even mathblade can't be that bad.<Embrace The Void>
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If that flips town you’re 100% dead tomorrow
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Not unless I see something inconsistent on LB’s endIn post 1579, Wisdom wrote:gamma you need to hammer<Embrace The Void>
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Those aren’t the mason softs I spotted but okIn post 1584, Tatl and Tael wrote:In post 101, Tatl and Tael wrote:I just thought about something that happened in this game and thought about something that might be a towntell for me and did some digging in past games
and sure enough there's an extremely simple 100% effective tell present in, like, a lot of my town games and never even once as scumIn post 104, Tatl and Tael wrote:there's three super standout meta things that I noticed and want to verify that will hopefully result in at least 2 100% townreads
I softed mason obscenely hard.In post 105, Tatl and Tael wrote:(one of which is the thing that I realized is present in my own game)<Embrace The Void>
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RK isn’t a wagon rnIn post 1597, Tatl and Tael wrote:Why not RK
Plus idk if they are scum, it looked like they genuinely believed they had something (even though they definitively did not)<Embrace The Void>
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Ok so my main deal with why I disliked MariaR atm was her looking she’s trying to manipulate flips to set up further town lynched, and with the mason claim this fits p wellIn post 555, MariaR wrote:
Prob lynching this if lovebird flips V and having it as lock town if lovebird flips WIn post 552, Tatl and Tael wrote:Because letting you as scum push on Lovebird makes it easy for you to get Lovebird lynched and is bad for town
Post a reply the This with just if you’re down to lynch MariaR<Embrace The Void>
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You down for a MariaR wagon?In post 1625, Kokichi Oma wrote:UNVOTE:
I obviously fake hammered but I dont wanna lynch a Mason claim or MC who I tr. Anyone else?<Embrace The Void>
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